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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you,

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Speaker 2: and we've got a packed show for you today. And

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Speaker 2: also I want to remind you that this show we

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Speaker 2: The Democratic Party senator is really starting to show their

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Speaker 2: true colors in a proud way. They're disdain for American values,

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Speaker 2: American families, and for God is on full display now.

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Speaker 2: Now we started to witness some of this when they

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Speaker 2: were going after the Jewish people with the war when

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Speaker 2: Israel was attacked. But Tim Kaine testifies that the constitutional

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Speaker 2: rights come from the government. Let me say that again,

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Speaker 2: come from the government, not from God. You had a

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Speaker 2: very interesting interaction with him, and this is something that

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Speaker 2: should terrify all Americans because now, wow, this is where

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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party truly is to stain for God and family.

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Speaker 3: Well, every day the Democrat Party gets more and more radical.

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Speaker 3: They have now decided that God has no place in

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Speaker 3: our nation, and God has no place in our founding documents,

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Speaker 3: and that our rights critically do not come from God,

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Speaker 3: this is truly an extreme position. Tim Kaine and I

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Speaker 3: went back and forth this week in the United States

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Speaker 3: Senate on the foundations of our nation. We're going to

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Speaker 3: get into that. We're also going to get into the

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Speaker 3: threat that Joe Biden and the Democrats open borders posed

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Speaker 3: to you. Even if you don't live in a border state,

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Speaker 3: you may think you live far far away from the border. Well,

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Speaker 3: four years of open borders has endangered every community, every

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Speaker 3: drug cartels have penetrated communities all across the country. We're

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Speaker 3: going to break that down as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's start with this. I actually am

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Speaker 2: shocked by this senator when I saw this come out,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, did did did? Did Tim Kaine really say

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Speaker 2: that the constitutional rights come from government, not God. And

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Speaker 2: that is exactly what he said. It wasn't a joke

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Speaker 2: on the internet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And let me set the stage. This was a

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Speaker 3: Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing this week, and it was

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Speaker 3: of the Trump Department nomine Trump administration nominees to the

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Speaker 3: State Department had included in his testimony the observation that

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Speaker 3: our rights come from God and not from government. And

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Speaker 3: Tim Kaine took offense to this, and he just teed

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Speaker 3: and then I responded, So I'm going to play first

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Speaker 3: my response that that I said afterwards. Here, give a listen.

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Speaker 4: The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't

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Speaker 4: what the Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that

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Speaker 4: bases its rule on Shiah law and target soonies behinds, Jews, Christians,

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Speaker 4: believe that they understand what natural rights are from their creator.

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Speaker 4: So the statement that our rights do not come from

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Speaker 4: the motto over the Supreme Court is equal justice under law.

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Speaker 4: The oath that you and I take pledged to support

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Speaker 3: Mister Barnes, I'd actually like to go back to the

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Speaker 3: Kane was still here. Senator Kane and I were elected

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Speaker 3: actually encourage observers to go back and listen to what

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Speaker 3: and you made reference to this, mister Barnes, then you

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Speaker 3: can believe perhaps the most prominent Virginian to ever serve,

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Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson, who wrote in the Declaration of Independence, we

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Speaker 3: but by God, with certain unalienable rights, that among these

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Speaker 3: by Democrats some radical and dangerous notion. Mister Jefferson was

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Speaker 3: right when he wrote those words. Government exists to protect

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Speaker 3: those rights, but slavery was not okay when US law

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Speaker 2: So let's break this down. This seems to be where

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Speaker 2: it is. It's core right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's exactly right. Tim Kaine is not some

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Speaker 3: Tim is not a dumb man. He's very smart. He's

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Speaker 3: He knows what's in the Declaration of Independence. He just

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Speaker 3: doesn't agree with it. And what troubled me about this,

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Speaker 3: I actually had an entirely different line of questioning that

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Speaker 3: I just walked in and heard him saying this, and

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Speaker 3: what troubled me was just how casually, how casually he said, Look,

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Speaker 3: the basic ideas that were the foundation of America. Those

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Speaker 3: That's what he argued, that if you believe our rights

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Speaker 3: I want to go back. I want to read the

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Speaker 3: You know, next summer, next July fourth, will be the

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Speaker 3: that the Declaration was signed on July fourth, seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 3: Here's how it begins, in Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen

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Speaker 3: they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,

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Speaker 3: that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happening.

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Speaker 3: And then I want you to listen to the next sentence,

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Speaker 3: because it really explains why Tim Kaine is fundamentally wrong

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Speaker 3: in the relationship between rights that come from God and

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Speaker 3: the role of government. That to secure these rights, governments

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Speaker 3: that's the right relationship, which is that government is not

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Speaker 3: the source of the rights. God is the source of

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Speaker 3: the rights. It is God who has given you and

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Speaker 3: me and everyone listening to this a right to life.

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Speaker 3: It is God who has given us a right to liberty.

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Speaker 3: It is God who has given us a right to

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Speaker 3: the pursuit of happiness. Historically, and if you go back

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Speaker 3: the three standard natural rights that people were discussed having

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Speaker 3: were life, liberty, and property. And Jefferson did not include

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Speaker 3: of property he put in pursuit of happiness. Pursuit of

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Speaker 3: happiness in many ways is just an aspect of liberty.

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Speaker 1: It's why I love doing this show with you.

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Speaker 2: The Cinelo At cartel is now in essence in every

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Speaker 2: you'd be wrong. AE hundred and seventy one Cineloa cartel

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Speaker 3: That's what the Democrats open border policies have done. And

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Speaker 7: The Federal Drug Enforcement Administration says a week long cartel

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Speaker 8: Sure so, Sineloa Cartel in every single state across America,

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Speaker 6: What's their number one product they push? Is it the pills?

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Speaker 8: So we see fetanyl powder, and we see counterfeit pills,

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Speaker 7: potentially deadly counterfeit pills. One hundred and seventy one arrests

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Speaker 7: throughout New England.

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Speaker 6: Does that make a dent.

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Speaker 1: Where the DEA.

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Speaker 8: We're not going after low level retail drug traffickers. We

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Speaker 8: are going after drug trafficking organizations, the networks.

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Speaker 6: How do you disrupt that something that is so large,

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Speaker 6: so vast, and seemingly so powerful.

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Speaker 8: Right, it's an ongoing battle, one that we cannot we

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Speaker 8: can't afford to give up. Right, it's the Cinelo cartel

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Speaker 8: is a threat to public safety, our public health, and

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Speaker 8: our national security as a country.

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Speaker 7: This year, the Centers for Disease Control reported, while drug

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Speaker 7: overdose deaths are declining, overdose is the leading cause of

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Speaker 7: death for young people ages eighteen to forty five.

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Speaker 2: Senator, you hear that report. It should be national news.

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Speaker 2: It's not. Thank goodness, we're doing the show to make

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Speaker 2: it national. But this is concerning because it's not just

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Speaker 2: in New England. This is in every major city in America.

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Speaker 2: They've set up shop.

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Speaker 3: Well, CNN won't cover it, MSNBC won't, but cover it.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad the local news covered it, and it is

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Speaker 3: critically important. The cartels. Public Enemy number one in New England,

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Speaker 3: brought to you by the Democrats is the Cineloa cartel.

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Speaker 3: And you know it was striking what they were arrested with.

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Speaker 3: They were arrested with with, among other things, counterfeit pills,

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Speaker 3: pills like adderall and and those are designed to be

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Speaker 3: sold to your kids. Ben, you and I are both parents.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you it is terrifying being the parents

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Speaker 3: of young kids today. Your kids are younger than mine, Ben,

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Speaker 3: My girls are teenagers. And and you know, I think

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Speaker 3: back when you and I were teenagers. You go out

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Speaker 3: to party. There may be some kids in high school,

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Speaker 3: they might be drinking. Maybe someone would would would smoke

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Speaker 3: some marijuana, but but the odds were that you were

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Speaker 3: not going to die going to a party when you

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Speaker 3: and I were kids. What is terrifying now is that

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Speaker 3: kids go to a party and someone says, here, hey,

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Speaker 3: try a pill. It's it's it's it's an adderall, it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's a riddle, and it's something they think

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Speaker 3: is fairly innocuous. And the kid takes one pill, and

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Speaker 3: it is a counterfeit pill that has fentanyl, and the

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Speaker 3: child drops dead. And that is happening at a scale

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Speaker 3: that is truly terrifying. In twenty twenty three, more than

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Speaker 3: one hundred thousand Americans died of overdoses. Seventy percent of

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Speaker 3: those were fentanyl, and overdose is the wrong word for

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Speaker 3: those those are poisonings, because you know, you think of

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Speaker 3: an overdose. If you have a junkie on the street

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Speaker 3: who's shooting not heroin. He shoots up a little bit

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Speaker 3: too much heroin, that's a tragedy, but there are a

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Speaker 3: series of decisions that put the person in that situation.

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Speaker 3: This circumstance is much more frightening because it can be

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Speaker 3: one tiny mistaken decision made by a fourteen year old

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Speaker 3: that ends that child's life, and that is the result.

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Speaker 3: Open borders are endangering our families and in a very

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Speaker 3: fundamental way.

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Speaker 2: It's an epidemic. And what's interesting is when you do

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Speaker 2: research on this, Senator, one of the things that's the

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Speaker 2: most shocking about it is a lot of police forces

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Speaker 2: are actually running out of their narcan, which is what

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Speaker 2: you can give to try to save someone's life when

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Speaker 2: they overdose. Their yearly supply. They're eating through it in

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Speaker 2: two to three months into the year, and they're having

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Speaker 2: to go to their city council and their board of

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Speaker 2: aldermen and the county commissioners depending on where what type

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Speaker 2: of government they have, and they're having to beg them

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Speaker 2: for more money because they're running through the budget for

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Speaker 2: what they need to save people's lives. That's how big

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Speaker 2: of an epidemic this has become. And again it's the

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Speaker 2: number one killer of young people in this country. That

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Speaker 2: is something that needs to be said over and over

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Speaker 2: again and it's something that we must stop well.

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Speaker 3: And police officers and first responders that they often wear gloves.

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Speaker 3: They're very frightened because if they inadvertently touch fentanyl, a

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Speaker 3: tiny amount can kill them. The level that this is

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Speaker 3: deadly is is truly unprecedented. And you know, I'll say,

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Speaker 3: I want to share an illustration that a DA agent

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Speaker 3: told me a number of years ago, which we were

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Speaker 3: sitting sitting and doing a round table with a DA

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Speaker 3: agent and with a mom who had lost lost her

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Speaker 3: child to fentanyl poisoning. And here's what the DA agent

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Speaker 3: did is he handed out everyone sweetened low packets of

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Speaker 3: the sweetener you put in your tea or coffee, and

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Speaker 3: he said, okay, tear open the sweetened low packet and

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Speaker 3: he said, empty all the sweetened low onto the table,

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Speaker 3: so we all did that. He then said, stick your pinky,

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Speaker 3: your little finger into the empty packet, so we did

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Speaker 3: that and he said pull it out. And you pull

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Speaker 3: it out, you have a handful of tiny little grains

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Speaker 3: of sweet and loath that are on your finger. And

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Speaker 3: he said, that is enough fentanyl to kill you. And

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Speaker 3: it's a very effective illustration. I'll tell you. With both

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Speaker 3: of our teenage girls, I sat them down in the kitchen,

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Speaker 3: I hand them to them packets of sweet and low,

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Speaker 3: and I had them do exactly that. I and if

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Speaker 3: you are a parent, if you are a grandparent, have

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Speaker 3: this conversation with your kids or your grandkids, because look,

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Speaker 3: hopefully your kids will not make catastrophically wrong decisions, but

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Speaker 3: in this circumstance, one small decision that seems easy. Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's a friend of theirs that has you know, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: try this pill. We're all at a party. And they

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Speaker 3: don't think they are risking their lives. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a parent who is not terrified about the risks that

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Speaker 3: their kids will make one wrong choice and it will

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Speaker 3: cost them their entire life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is scary, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And this is part of the reason why I think

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Speaker 2: the President is also as you wrap up this last week,

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Speaker 2: going after these drug cartels and saying we're going to

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Speaker 2: use the full force of our government to go after

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Speaker 2: them since we've declared them terrorist organizations because they're killing Americans.

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Speaker 3: Look, obviously, the US military took out at Trenduragua Narco

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Speaker 3: terrorist boat off the shores of Venezuela just this past week.

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Speaker 3: As you know, last week I was in Mexico, meeting

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Speaker 3: with senior government officials in Mexico and making clear to

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Speaker 3: them the United States is going after these cartels and

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Speaker 3: we're going to do so either with or without you. Yet,

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Speaker 3: you know, listening to the story of one hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy one Sineloa cartel members arrested New England reminded me

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Speaker 3: of the MS thirteen cartel member that I spoke with

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Speaker 3: down in El Salvador. I went to the SEACOT, the

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Speaker 3: maximum security terrorist prison. And if you didn't listen to

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Speaker 3: our podcast last week, I me encourage every one of

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Speaker 3: you go back and listen to last week's podcast, or

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Speaker 3: I take you inside this prison. This maximum security prison

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Speaker 3: built for forty thousand gang members, mass murderers and terrorists.

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Speaker 3: And I met with one MS thirteen gang member who

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Speaker 3: lived in Texas many years. He spoke perfectly fluent English.

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Speaker 3: He became an MS thirteen member when he was thirteen

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Speaker 3: years old, living in Falls Church, Virginia. That's the level

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Speaker 3: at which these gangs have penetrated our society. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, the only way you become a member of

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Speaker 3: MS thirteen is you have to murder someone. So at

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Speaker 3: age thirteen, he murdered someone to become a member of

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Speaker 3: this gang. When I asked him why he did it,

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Speaker 3: he said all of his friends were doing the same thing,

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Speaker 3: that he was hanging out with other thirteen year olds

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Speaker 3: who were joining the same gang. And this is now

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Speaker 3: a forty two year old man who's spending the rest

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Speaker 3: of his life at a maximum security prison because of

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Speaker 3: the multiple murders he committed. That is not in Columbia,

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Speaker 3: that's not deep in Mexico City. That was Falls Church, Virginia.

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Speaker 3: And later he moved to Dallas, Texas. We've heard New

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Speaker 3: England this is public enemy number one. You and I

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Speaker 3: and our families. We want the border secured and I'm

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Speaker 3: great that we have a president commander in chief who

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Speaker 3: says we're going to stop the human trafficking, We're going

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Speaker 3: to stop the drug trafficking. We are securing the border.

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Speaker 3: That's an incredible success and it's incredibly important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right about that.

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Speaker 2: And also Reuters is now reporting and this is just

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Speaker 2: showing I think the president's commitment to fighting these narco

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Speaker 2: terras Routers is now saying the US is deploying stealth

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Speaker 2: fighter jets to the Caribbean for drug fight as the

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Speaker 2: tensions of Venezuela continued to rise. They're saying Axios is

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Speaker 2: saying that ten F thirty five jets are being dispatched

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Speaker 2: also to Puerto Rico to support the drug war there.

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Speaker 1: And this is on top of it.

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Speaker 3: And Ben Ben, when I was down at the Panama Canal,

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Speaker 3: I actually saw the USS Lake Erie that was transiting

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Speaker 3: from the Pacific to the Caribbean specifically to participate in

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Speaker 3: the war on drugs. This is a missileship with enormous capacity.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this was the particular ship that

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Speaker 3: took out the trend to Ragua, but I went and

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Speaker 3: toured the ship, met many of the sailors on board.

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Speaker 3: We are moving major assets to take on the cartels

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Speaker 3: and to defeat the cartels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep covering this so now with Verdict

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Speaker 2: with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts, don't miss

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