1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact, 12 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in upology, discuss some of 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talked with the top experts. 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Ron, and today's show 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: is going to be a tad different as we recorded 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: our show live in front of an audience at the 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five Contact in the Desert UFO conference. We 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: will be recamping all the latest UFO news and highlights 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: from the Contact in the Desert show. My guest is 21 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: the producer of Beyond Contact as well as the producer 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: of Contact in the Desert, Brianna Matz. Here. We are 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: late Monday during Contact in the Desert in front of 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: a live audience. Okay, welcome to Beyond Contact. I am 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: Captain Ron. We are actually doing a different show today. 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: We are live at Contact in the Desert for our 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: episode of Beyond Contact. We are going to bring on 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: our very own producer, Brianna mats is going to be here. Hi, 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Ray Hi. So we are live at Contact the Desert. 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: We've never done this before. We started this show Beyond 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 4: Contact one week before Contact in the Desert last year. 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: So we've got fifty three shows under our belt and 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: this is the first time we're recording live and the 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: second time bri has been our guest. What do you 35 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: think of Contact so far, Brie, let's talk about the show. 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a great year. 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 6: Actually, I think the number one thing for us is 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 6: in production was that it's just been very easy, and 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 6: that's been really difficult. 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: This is our third year of running Contact in the Desert. 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: In the first two years were kind of challenging because 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: it was a brand new endeavor for us, and as 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: you get used to things and you kind of get 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: your sea legs under you, we all kind of feel 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: behind the scenes that the first two years were sort 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: of a learning curve for us as we learned how 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: to do this, how to put on a production like this, 48 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: And now we have it underneath us, so now we 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 4: can kind of know that everything's going to run smoothly 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: and we can kind of put fund spins on things 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: and do extra things and make contact bigger and better. 52 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: Contact is one of those rare things that means a 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: lot to people. As we walk around the floor, people 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: are constantly stopping us and saying, this was a great weekend. 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: This means a lot to me. I've learned a lot, 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: I got a lot out of it. That's very rewarding 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: and fulfilling to hear and means a lot to us 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: and keeps us going well. 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: Especially. 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 6: I think the one thing I've heard is not just 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: that they care about contact, but that's so far it's 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: been their favorite contact. 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we have people that have been to every 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 4: single contact, even we haven't been to every single contact, 65 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: and to quote Michelle Anderson, I've been to everyone and 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: this is definitely the best one. Each year at Contact 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: in the Desert, there's sort of a different vibe, a 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: different feel. Something will happen one year, something will happen 69 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: another year, and they all have a different feel. This 70 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: year's feeling is cohesiveness. Everybody keeps coming up saying cohesiveness, 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: which is an odd thing to me, but it just 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 4: feels like everybody knows each other here. We have two 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: thousand people plus here this year, and it feels like 74 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: everybody talks to everybody. There's not like these little groups 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: or subdivisions. Everybody's just sort of part of this thing 76 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: this year, which is a new level for us, and 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: we want it to be that way. You know, Contact 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: is kind of a community thing. We've been thinking of 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: ourselves this year as almost the banquet for this community 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: because all the speakers come here, a lot of podcasters 81 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: come here, filmmakers, people that are in our community, and 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: this is kind of where we regroup about what happened 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: in the last year. Well, where's a you know, where's 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: the UAP movement heading, what's going to happen in Congress, 85 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: what's going to happen with disclosure, what's going to happen 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: with new witnesses coming forward. We keep hearing behind the 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: scenes that other guys are ready willing and able to testify. 88 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: We got Danny Sheehan and Congress trying to get legislation 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: passed to give them whistleblower protections so that they can 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: come forward without violating any of their NBA agreements. It's 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: just sort of that kind of a feel here, right. 92 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 5: I would say. 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 6: So, it's not just I think with the disclosure issue, 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 6: it's also different aspects under the entire umbrella of what 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 6: contact is. It's maybe like an alternative archaeology or different 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 6: studies of consciousness, and it all kind of comes together. 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 6: So for me, I like to focus on that side 98 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 6: a little bit more. The psionics just in general, has 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 6: been I think a hot word, and we know what's 100 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 6: been around for a while. It's basically just parapsychology, but 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: now it's being looked at in a more scientific way, 102 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 6: and I think just even changing a word, kind of 103 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 6: like going from UFO to UAP exactly give some people 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 6: permission to take a more serious look into it. And 105 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 6: I think that's been a pivotal growth in the community 106 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 6: and making that more a part of what UFO contact 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 6: with other beings is. 108 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: There's so many different modalities that have discussed here at 109 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: Contact with sixty two different speakers, and many of them 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: have different viewpoints on different things. People talking about the Pyramids, 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: new discoveries under the Pyramids. You know, a lot of 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: it does tie into the UFO topic, of course, but 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: there's diversions from that, even the psionics. You're talking about. 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: A big thing in the folklore of contact with extraterrustrial 115 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 4: beings is telepathic communication. And then boom, we have a 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: scientist here who's talking about humans who seem to exhibit 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: some sort of telepathic communication, with autistic savant children being 118 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: able to communicate with their mother because they're nonverbal and 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 4: they have a hard time communicating, and yet there seems 120 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: to be some kind of connection there. 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it just shows that that might be 122 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 6: the source of everything. 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 5: It's a study of consciousness. 124 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 6: It seems like, you know, it used to be very 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 6: nuts and bolts, and now it's kind of a realization 126 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 6: that consciousness is connecting all of these things together, and 127 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: that's really exciting for me. That's something I think I 128 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 6: would love to focus on and bring more of that 129 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 6: to contact. 130 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: That'll definitely be an element next year. I think twenty 131 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: years from now. This whole thing could open up, you know, 132 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: which happens over years. You know, thirty two years ago, 133 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: mainstream science said that there are no exo planets anywhere 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: in the universe. That was the top people in the 135 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: world saying that. Then they found one, then they found two, 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: than eight. Now they think there's two trillion. So these 137 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: things change. This psionics thing could open doors. We may 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: make new discoveries and then suddenly we have this new ability. 139 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: Is it a new ability or is it something we 140 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 6: just never paid attention? 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: Well, Doctor Diana Paul was saying that anthropologists think it's 142 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: possible one hundred thousand years ago that humanity Homo sapien, 143 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: had some sort of telepathic abilities, but as they developed vocalization, 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: they didn't use it because they didn't need it. So 145 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: that's an interesting thing to think about. It's fun to 146 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: speculate on these things because you know, you find out 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: where we came from and where we're going. And I'd 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: love to see her keep doing more discoveries and more 149 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: research to that. 150 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 6: I love that that's actually, uh, that makes sense, you know, 151 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 6: even to think of where language comes like came from 152 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 6: that evolition of consciousness, And it would be interesting if 153 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 6: by learning how to verbally communicate with each other that 154 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 6: we sort of lost the knowledge and the knowing that 155 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 6: we have that ability. 156 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 5: And so imagine if we knew that we could. 157 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: Have Yes, think about all the men of the audiences 158 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: who are thinking right now, man, if we had nonverbal 159 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: communication with the wife instead of verbal, how great that 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: would be. I mean, that would really lighten things up 161 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: for most of us. 162 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 5: Well, I hope my husband and the audience. 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: Half the people think that's funny. The other half are 164 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: glaring at me right now with Oh, that's a gesture 165 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: that I just saw from the audience. Yes, I know 166 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: what that finger is for. Thank you very much. 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 5: Everyone's sleeping now, everyone's leave. Nice. 168 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more about 169 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Contact in the Desert as we do our show live 170 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: in front of an audience. At Contact in the Desert 171 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the 172 00:09:29,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We 173 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: are back on Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron and today 174 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: I'm with producer Brie and we're going to pick up 175 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: right where we left off from the live show at 176 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: Contact in the Desert twenty twenty five. So there's other 177 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: things that have happened here at Contact in the Desert. 178 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: We started off Thursday was pretty much our biggest Thursday ever. 179 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 6: I mean I've been coming into Contact for a long time. 180 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 6: It's usually check in, you walk in, you know, you 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: chuckle around. This year was a line, I mean wrapped around. 182 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 6: People were just waiting. The second those doors opened. It 183 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 6: was like floods. I've never seen anything like that before, 184 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 6: and it was an instant knowing that this was going 185 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 6: to be a great year and that more people are 186 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 6: getting involved. More people, I think, are not afraid to 187 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 6: come to things like this because I know it does take. 188 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: There's this idea that maybe they're a bunch of weirdos, 189 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 6: and now people are comfortable knowing that. 190 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: We're here too. 191 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 5: Bri Oh, for sure they are. 192 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: But I do think just the fact that this stuff 193 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: is out in mainstream world. You see ut hearings in Congress, 194 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: you see some of these stories on TV being covered, 195 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 4: there is We've noticed a segment of attendees who are 196 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: just curious about this and they're like, you know, I 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: saw this, I'm not really sure what's going on. In 198 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: one weekend, one trip to contact in the desert, you 199 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: can really gain a good knowledge of what's happening in 200 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: and around the community. 201 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Well that and I think make friends. 202 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 6: I mean, even the first time I ever went, there's 203 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 6: those moments in between presentations or after presentations where people 204 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: just kind of gather and meet each other. 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 5: Where are you from? Where are you from? 206 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 6: And it tends to be that those people do form 207 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 6: that relationship and then come back every year and it's 208 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 6: like your reunion with your people that maybe you don't 209 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 6: live together, but you had such a great time you 210 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 6: come here. You're into the same things, And that to 211 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 6: me is really special because it's not just contact as 212 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: in with extraterrestrials, but I think contact is contact between 213 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 6: each other, between each other and with speakers. 214 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 4: People love the opportunity here that they can interact with 215 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: our speakers. You get a chance to meet some of 216 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: these guys, ask them direct questions yourself, which is always 217 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: very special. That is a huge part of this. 218 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's actually the best part because, as 219 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: you know, being a speaker, being an author, there is 220 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 6: that line of where you have to be kind of 221 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 6: safe with some things, right. You don't want to say 222 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: the wrong thing. You don't want to make enemies, you know. 223 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 6: And I think it's cool when you can see them 224 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: in person, pull them aside and say what did you 225 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 6: really think about this? 226 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: Yes, at one am in the lobby bar area, the 227 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: answer tends to be a little different than it was 228 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 4: at twelve noon on the stage. I mean, that's just 229 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: going to be honest. 230 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well what did you think about this? Well? Actually yeah, yeah. 231 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: And so that's cool because you have that insight without 232 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: having what about them feeling the pressure and they it's 233 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 6: like they feel like they can talk to you because. 234 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: And it's a very trusting space and everybody feels that. 235 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: Like you said, people get to know each other. I 236 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: saw people that saw each other they probably haven't seen 237 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: each other since contact last year, and then they're like, oh, hey, 238 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: you guys, what's going on in your world now? You 239 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 4: know a lot of people do. 240 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: Someone goodbye today, And I said, it's our annual reunion 241 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 6: till next year, you know, And it's like bittersweet, but 242 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: I know we'll be back next year. 243 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 5: We'll get to see each other, and it's just something 244 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 5: to look. 245 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: Forward to absolutely, and I think expanding on the direction 246 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: we're heading now is really working. People have been very 247 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: positive this year about the direction of the show, the 248 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: way the speakers worked. Everything just kind of went off 249 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 4: with a hitch because now the speakers, many of them 250 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 4: kind of know the routine too, so that worked out well. 251 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: How great we had Ross Colehart here, that. 252 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: Was awesome all the way from Australia. 253 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 4: Is that how you say it's giant, and that's how 254 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 4: you say it it's giant. So Ross, you know, is 255 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 4: responsible for breaking a lot of big stories in this community. 256 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: He seems very well connected with insiders, and you know 257 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: he had mentioned publicly on stage that there's a lot 258 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: of people ready, willing, possibly able to come forward with 259 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: their story of working directly on these projects. On UAPs, 260 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: we had Jake Barber of course got released from him, 261 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: who's a first hand witness who claims to have driven 262 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: the helicopter that lifted the craft and took it to 263 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: a hangar. That's a big deal to bring somebody forward 264 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: who has first hand knowledge of this. 265 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: According to Hen Trow, the eight Basket, if. 266 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: It's real, it's pretty amazing for sure. 267 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: I mean I would love to have him here too, 268 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: but just to have Ross. 269 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 6: I think he's very respected journalist and that feels special 270 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 6: in itself, that he really is the real deal and 271 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: he now knows what it's like to fight for something 272 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: like this and to have so much pushback all the time, 273 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 6: and people trying to ruin your reputation, and the fact 274 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 6: that he's still willing to be on the front and 275 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 6: really stand up for what he believes and that should 276 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: be known to everybody. To me, I just feel like 277 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 6: he really is a gem of a human Also, just 278 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 6: knowing him. 279 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: He's fantastic and you could see he spoke about it 280 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: a lot openly on stage how frustrated he is that 281 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 4: he says like, from his Australian perspective, he doesn't understand 282 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: why people in Congress number one and people in the 283 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: media number two don't press people on these questions. He says, 284 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: from his journalistic background, it's you ask people, hey, what's 285 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: the evidence here, what do you have? Tell us this? 286 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: And nobody seems to pursue that he's out there doing 287 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: which is great. Another investigative journalist we had was George 288 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: Knapp was here with George Nori and they did a 289 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Open Lines live version of Coast to Coast am which 290 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: is really fun. And they did a similar thing last 291 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: year when we did the first time George and George 292 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: were together, and then this year they did Open Lines 293 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: Live which is a lot of fun. 294 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if we'll have another one, you know, 295 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 6: And so it was felt like a trait to be 296 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 6: able to do it again, and it just it feels 297 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 6: special when they're together. I know that doesn't happen and 298 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 6: we're lucky that. I think we're grateful that we're able 299 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: to bring the both of them together. 300 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: To have I mean talk about legends and broadcasting. Both 301 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: of these gentlemen have been doing it for so long 302 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: and are so well received. It's just an honor to 303 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 4: have those guys around, you. 304 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 5: Know, absolutely absolutely. 305 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: We also the big other feature they had at Contact 306 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: this year, we had Josh Gates from the Discovery Channel 307 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: Expedition Unknown. That guy's been all over the world looking 308 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: at a wide variety of these topics, from the Pyramids 309 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: to the Holy Grail, to UFOs and aliens. He has 310 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: done four to six different shows on Expedition Unknown on 311 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: those topics, and he has a very healthy bit of 312 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: you know, he's open to it, which is interesting. 313 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: It's not just TV, it's really that he is interested 314 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: and he breaches the mainstream and he's hilarious. 315 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: I didn't know he was that funny. 316 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: Not Captain Ron hilarious, but hilarious funny, I'd say funny. 317 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really good on stage too, and I think 318 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 6: that's uh, he has that stage quality, that presence. And 319 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 6: we're so lucky because he was very sick and we 320 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 6: didn't know if he was going to make it literal, 321 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 6: Like days before here on site, it was like every 322 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: moment is it going to happen? 323 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: Is he going to get all that private information that 324 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 4: you're sharing or now yeah, you told everybody he was Yeah, 325 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: he was sick, and thank god. I mean it's just 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: like one of those things that feels just contact. That's 327 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 4: special that and he was great. He was able to 328 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: even meet do the meet and great and interact with people, 329 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 4: which is nice. 330 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 6: Did and they were able to get some pictures. He 331 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 6: did some monographs, so that was really cool to bring him. 332 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 6: You know, you talked about how you know, he's a 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: word that your mom would recognize. 334 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 4: Right right, He's a household name at this point to 335 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: a lot of people because that show has been running 336 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: for I think twelve or thirteen years, and they have 337 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: a new season coming on this year, so that's still 338 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: going strong, which is nice to see. We had a 339 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: lot of Ancient Aliens people as well. This year. William 340 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: Henry was back, Nick Pope was back, a lot of 341 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: people from that show, which is also still going, which 342 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: is like, what twenty first year or something, nineteenth year 343 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 4: is I. 344 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: Feel like it's been ninety seasons. I don't even know. 345 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 6: The other day and I was like, wow, they must 346 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 6: have started in the eighteen hundreds. 347 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 5: It's still going. 348 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: I think it's nineteen actually, which is a lot, which. 349 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: Is more than that. 350 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, it's incredible. We need to take a quick 351 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 4: break right there. We come back. We're going to pick 352 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 4: it up on the other side with Breed telling us 353 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 4: more fascinating things about contact in the desert, all while juggling. 354 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: I know you can't see it because it's audio only, 355 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 4: but she was doing that the entire time. Ask the 356 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: audience you're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and 357 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We are back 358 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: on Beyond Contact it's Captain Ron and today I am 359 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: with the always outrageous Brianna Matt and we're going to 360 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: pick up right where we left off at the live 361 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: show at Contact in the Desert. So it's always great 362 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: to see the insights from those guys directly and that 363 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: they've made progress as well. And it's amazing how there's 364 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 4: always new stuff. In the last sixty days. We had 365 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: several people come out. We had a briefing in Congress, 366 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 4: the deathbed confession interview with Jesse Michaels with what's his name, 367 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: Harold Malstrom, who's worked with various uh presidential I think 368 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: you worked with five presidents as a matter of fact, 369 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: So that was an interesting thing. So there's been a 370 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: lot of stuff happening this This is not sort of 371 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: going away, it's sort of kind of growing. We also 372 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: had a nuclear panel here on Friday with the nuclear 373 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: witnesses who are going to testify in June before Congress 374 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: and hopefully go into a skiff with members of Congress. 375 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: Testified before they testified, they talked about it at their panel, 376 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: which was very exciting. 377 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 5: It is we've gone first. 378 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got we got it before Congress. So that's 379 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 4: very exciting. It is cool because these are these are 380 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: important guys with important information that are willing to come 381 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: forward with this, and we hope that it will actually 382 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: put pressure on Congress to actually try to get more information. 383 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 4: As you know, I'm very skeptical of that. I think 384 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: they're going to keep it buried, but I'm all for 385 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: them pushing it forward. We kicked off this year's event 386 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: with Danny Sheehan, whose whose new Paradigm Institute is trying 387 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 4: to get people to put pressure on their local congressman 388 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: to get this out. Talk about a nonpartisan issue. Who 389 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: doesn't want to find out? Show us, show us what 390 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: you got. 391 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, even if you don't believe in UFOs, the 392 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 6: fact that there is some evidence of something and a 393 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 6: government is hiding that from you enough should make you 394 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 6: want to get involved. Because if it's one thing, it 395 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 6: could be so many other things. 396 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: That's probably why they keep it secret to if that 397 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: comes out, what else is real? Think about all the 398 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 4: doors that will open up if we do get some 399 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: form of official disclosure from the government. 400 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's a very it's a tricky fight. Even just 401 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 6: to go back to talking about how long ancient aliens 402 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: it's been going, that's been on TV forever, and people 403 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: are just now really getting invested. 404 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 5: It's been a long row. 405 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: Everything moves glacially in this community. It's very hard to 406 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: persuade people. It's very hard to change academia. That's what 407 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: doctor Din Powell, the scientists working on the thought lepathy 408 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: is finding. As we've heard from time and time again, 409 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: Graham Hancock said how he runs up against academia not 410 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: accepting some of his discoveries. They tend to accept them, 411 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 4: but it moves so slowly that it takes years and 412 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: years to get it to change over. 413 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 6: I think we're entering an era where more people are 414 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 6: going to going to the unknown, taking their whatever field 415 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 6: in academia and going into a new field where others 416 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 6: are afraid to go into. 417 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 5: I think slowly that'll happen. 418 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: And we have the more people like Avilobe who spoke here, 419 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: which was great having Avelobe talk people of his stature, 420 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: talking about the realities of this being of extra trustrial 421 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: life being probable. It's just a matter of course whether 422 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: it's been here, and a lot of the stuff Doctor 423 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: Loebe saying that there's a lot of technologies that are 424 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 4: coming online, like the extra Large Telescope, various other telescopes 425 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: around the world, and other technologies which are like AI 426 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 4: driven skywatching cameras. These sorts of things are going to 427 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 4: really open up a realm of possibilities for us to 428 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: make other discoveries. As doctor Loef told me, he's looking 429 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: for trash, he's looking for space junk that was an 430 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: old probe from another civilization that maybe came from another galaxy, 431 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: something that fell off of another air craft of some 432 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 4: kind from another galaxy. And he said that these new 433 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: technologies should allow them to find that because they're too 434 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 4: small for us to see now. But as we get 435 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: better technologies, we may actually get to see that, and 436 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 4: that will give us more answers as to what's happening 437 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: out there. 438 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 5: I mean, you don't know unless you really look. 439 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: You know, if you're given the tools, you're bound to 440 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 6: find something. And even Auby has gone through, you know, 441 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 6: a lot of struggle in his career and kind of 442 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: being the one step being forward. Well, if you want 443 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 6: to be a scientist, don't you want to look at this? 444 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 6: Don't you want to go and find out instead of 445 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: saying no. 446 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 4: That's his quote. He says, we're not being true to 447 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: science if we're not being open minded about this thing, 448 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: because let's let's if it's not real, let's scientifically investigate 449 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: it and find out if that's in fact true. 450 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 6: Right, There's certain people that I feel are kind of 451 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 6: paving the way. They've been brave to be the first 452 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: ones to put their careers on the line and take 453 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 6: the hits. And I see more and more people now, 454 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: there's more and more scientists that get involved. We have 455 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 6: more PhDs on our program book. 456 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 4: That's another thing. There's a lot of PhDs here, which 457 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 4: is fun. These are people that are respected in their 458 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: communities and they are interested in these topics and they 459 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: believe there's possible things that we could discover. And I 460 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: love that. That just pushes the envelope further. I want 461 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: to know, and I don't want to be got lied 462 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: to if our government does. In fact. 463 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 5: No, I'm with you, I'm very not as optimistic. 464 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 6: I'm definitely not Stephen Bashitt where every day disclosures coming. 465 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 6: I love you, Stephen, but for a while, but it's 466 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 6: keep the fight because I mean, think of Steve. He's 467 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 6: been doing this forever and disclosure so far has common drips, 468 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 6: and now it feels like it's kind of filling up. 469 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 6: And I feel like, just as conference in general, bringing 470 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 6: all these people here, it's kind of opening that door 471 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 6: for them to get a ball. 472 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: I feel like it motivates people and speakers talking to 473 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: other speakers almost spurs the next speaker on to Yeah, 474 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: you know what, we could get this together. Yeah, you know, 475 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: we could do this. You know, and the stuff Deanie's doing, 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: all that's fantastic. I just I feel if there's a 477 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: clandestine group within the military or government, whatever has the 478 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: cabal that has this knowledge. If in fact we have craft, 479 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: what would be the impetus to share it? There is 480 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 4: none throughout history. Every war's won by the guy who 481 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 4: has the best technology. So if you have that technology, 482 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: why would you release it to the world so that China, Russia, 483 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: North Korea, whoever could have it. There's no reason to 484 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 4: do that. So if in fact we have it, I 485 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 4: think it makes sense that they would want to keep 486 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: it close to the best. 487 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 6: I think humanity would have to go through quite a growth. 488 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 6: I think we'd have to really look at ourselves in 489 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: the mirror and heal ourselves as a people before we 490 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 6: could get to that point of releasing something. We're against 491 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 6: each other on one planet and we're seeing each other 492 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 6: as enemies. The fact that there could be crazy technology 493 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: but you don't want China to get it, not realizing 494 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: that you're on the same planet. 495 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 5: We're not too different. 496 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: We don't think in that term yet we're not align. 497 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 6: Yes, I think that also the study and consciousness is 498 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 6: going to help people make those changes. 499 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: I also think if there was an extraterrestrial race visiting here, 500 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: they wouldn't see those lines or care that China and 501 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: Russia and whatever don't align. They don't care if they're 502 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: just looking as as one planet, one race. 503 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 6: Well yeah, I mean, I imagine it's like going to 504 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 6: someone's house. Everyone in the family. They're all family. It's 505 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 6: one house, so they're just cruising around. It's one planet. 506 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 6: They're like, you guys all live here. 507 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: It was interesting that on that panel, Tom I think 508 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: agreed as well, George Nori and George Knapp and myself 509 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: all agreed that we do not see disclosure coming official 510 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: government disclosure. 511 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: There is, you know, but. 512 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 6: I feel that we shouldn't be discouraged by that because this, 513 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 6: to me is a part of disclosure. 514 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: Contact. 515 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 6: I think it's going to happen by the people. The 516 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 6: people are going to have the disclosure. We already know 517 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 6: that the government hides and lies to us, so why 518 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 6: do we need to hear. 519 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: It from them? 520 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 4: Because the other eighty eight percent of the population don't 521 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: feel that way. 522 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: And that's why we do this. 523 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 4: I do think educating the world about these things that 524 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: make people's eyes open. Oftentimes I'll share some of these 525 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 4: stories and people will be like, OK, I never heard 526 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: that before. Maybe there is something to this. Yes, there 527 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: is something to this. I don't know what it is, 528 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: but there is something to it that deserves scientific rigor 529 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: and we need to put more resource behind it. Avi 530 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: Lobs talked about his project, which is the Galileo Project, 531 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: and they're using AI and various new technologies to get 532 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: these answers from a scientific standpoint. We'll be right back 533 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: with more from our contact in the Desert Live show. 534 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 535 00:28:37,359 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are back on 536 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron and we're going to pick 537 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: things up right where we left off at the live show. 538 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: From this year's contact in the desert, you know. 539 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 6: For me, I remember when the New York Times article 540 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 6: dropped in twenty seventeen. 541 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: I really thought it was going to be nothing. 542 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 6: But then there were people out there that needed to 543 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 6: hear that. There were people that had zero interest in 544 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 6: this until that moment. That was their permission slip to say, 545 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 6: oh that's interesting. And so as much as I don't 546 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: necessarily put so much weight into disclosure as some of 547 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: our other favorite people, I do think that it is 548 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 6: helpful because it's opened up other people's minds that would 549 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: normally not even bat and I would think, what do 550 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: you do? What's what's your job? Oh my god, are 551 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 6: you serious? You believe in yofos? And then they see 552 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 6: it on the news, Then they hear that the government's 553 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 6: looking into it, and then it's not a joke anymore. 554 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 6: It's no longer a lie laughing what are you doing 555 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: for a living. It's more like, oh, yeah, I saw 556 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: you know they released some documents or there was that 557 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 6: video that was released it was declassified. That was crazy. 558 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: It is doing something for more people. It is opening 559 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 6: up people's eyes that would normally not look into this 560 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 6: or take it seriously. 561 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: That's been eight years now. Twenty seventeen was really the 562 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: watershed moment with the story that she just mentioned from 563 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: New York Times. Then the videos came out from the 564 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 4: Navy that the Pentagon says are authentic, and then sixty 565 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: minutes to the piece on it, then David Framer came 566 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: out and they interviewed him, and then and then and then, 567 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: and so all this stuff came out to the Stars 568 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: Academy was formed the same year. All of these things 569 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: happened at that moment, and that really was a watershed 570 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 4: moment for the community. And we're seeing more and more 571 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: people like Ross Colhart and Reality Check and these things 572 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: getting a wider audience. And I think it's important to 573 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: be very skeptical on these topics, but I think it's 574 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: important to at least expose the general public to these 575 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 4: ideas because many people just have no idea about anything 576 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: about this, because why would they. It's not out there 577 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: in the world that there's like I talk to some 578 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: people and tell them what I do and they're like, oh, 579 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: I don't even know anything about that. 580 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: You know, that's so hard for me to grasp. 581 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 4: Well, you're immersed in it, you know. People that school 582 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: teacher doesn't think about it because it's not in her world, 583 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: it's not on her news, it's not anywhere to be seen. 584 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: People in the community listen to these podcasts, particularly Beyond 585 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 4: Contact on Coast to Coast i AM and other podcasts, 586 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: and they talk about it. If you're not into this topic, 587 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: would you wouldn't have exposure to it. 588 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: That's just wild to me. 589 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 6: I just think, to me, that feels like you're just 590 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 6: staring at the ground all day long, you know, thinking 591 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 6: about life. 592 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: A big aspect of this, of this conference and our 593 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: show is to try to reach to a wider audience 594 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: just to show people make up your mind for yourself. 595 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: But there is other things out there. I mean, we've 596 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: read so much about this stuff. We've talked to so 597 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: many of these speakers. I'm highly skeptical about a lot 598 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 4: of these things, but when you really really read the 599 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 4: vast amount of material, If you look at Richard Dolan's 600 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: books that are this thick and all the cases that 601 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: he's compiled, it's a preponderance of the evidence. None of 602 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: these cases are a smoking gun, but there are thousands 603 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: upon thousands. Beyond thousands of cases, there are hundreds of 604 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: military officials who have come forward and said that these 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: things are real. That becomes very compelling. In fact, the 606 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: things that I try to share to people that asked 607 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: me often on these interviews or whatever, well, what was 608 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: compelling for you? And for me it's things like where 609 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: I tell people in the regular world and they don't 610 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: even I never heard of such a thing that would 611 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: compel me. For example, in Roswell, the Roswell case, there 612 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: was a colonel. There's a couple of these guys who 613 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: came forward and left something to be opened upon their death, 614 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: and then you open up an affidavit upon their death, 615 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 4: and it says I so and so, colonel, whatever of 616 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: sound mind. Want my daughter to know that we are 617 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: not alone in the universe. I want my granddaughter to 618 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: know that I saw bodies, I saw craft. I mean 619 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: the fact that somebody would be compelled to do that. 620 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: This guy, Harold nelstrom In on February twenty eighth, wanted 621 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: his granddaughter to know that he knows for sure we 622 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: have recovered craft, We have recovered bodies. These are not 623 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: people joking around. Why would somebody do that? Why would 624 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: There's no benefit, There's not going to gain fame, They're 625 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: not going to make any money. They literally, oftentimes cite 626 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: my granddaughter. I want my granddaughter to know this. I'm 627 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: compelled as hell like that. Why would somebody do that? 628 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: Whatever they wrote in there, to me, that must be real. 629 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: But it sure is compelling. 630 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: They should have told her earlier. 631 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: Well, they were threatened and they didn't want to. They 632 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: were intimidated, and they didn't want to put her at risk. 633 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: They didn't want to these things. So upon their death, boom, 634 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: Now you can't get me, you can't harm me. So 635 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: I find that compelling, and I think it's a very 636 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: strong piece of evidence. And I think those types of 637 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: things drew me to this. And then, as Richard Dolan says, 638 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: the preponderance of evidence that continues to build. And we 639 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: hear people who were in the navy fifty years ago, 640 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: and you interview some of the pilots, Ryan Ryan Graves, 641 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: for example, he's like, no, we don't see UFOs occasionally 642 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: something in the sky we don't know. We see them 643 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: every day every time he's in the air. They see 644 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: a craft that shows up on the radar. They don't 645 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: know what it is. They say, it's not adversarial it's 646 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: not ours and we can't catch it. Now, why would 647 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 4: a guy like that come out and say that? So 648 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: I'm compelled by it. I don't know what it is. 649 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 4: I don't know that it's alien. I don't know what 650 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: it is, but I feel like Avi Lobe says, let's 651 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: put some scientific rigor to it and let's find out. Yeah. 652 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of funny that you that you 653 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 6: say that, because when we talk about what Graves saw, 654 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 6: we all think of it as like one instant. It's 655 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 6: like that date always repeated. It's this one instant. But 656 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 6: for him to say every single day correct hit people. 657 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 4: And another thing that people, even in our community oftentimes 658 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 4: surprisingly don't seem to know. When we see that TikTok 659 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: video Tech Tech TikTok tic tech video that was posted 660 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: on TikTok, that video, people often point to that they 661 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 4: think there's one craft. One time. The transcripts, if you 662 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: read from the pilots, it's raining these things. There were 663 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: hundreds of these things and SCU has clocked them at 664 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: mock fifty, which is unheard of. I don't know what 665 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: that is, could easily be our technology, but man, if 666 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: we have that kind of technology. Wow, but let's look 667 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: at that. 668 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 5: You know that sounds sickening to be inside of that. 669 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 4: It's incredible. Yeah, and you know we have AI technology now, 670 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 4: that's unbelievable. I guarantee you there's AI technology that government 671 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 4: or someone else has that's much stronger than they let 672 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: us use. Absolutely, so you can only imagine that their 673 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 4: uh craft. You know, oftentimes we hear these quotes from 674 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 4: people that have come forward that worked at these things, 675 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: and they said that by the time you see a craft, 676 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 4: like when the stealth bomber was unveiled, by the time 677 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: you see that, it's obsolete. They're not going to show you. 678 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 4: Why would they show us the newest, fastest, greatest weapon 679 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: we have. They're going to keep that close to the vest. 680 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 4: And that makes sense and they should. So when they 681 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 4: show you the stealth bomber, it's obsolete to our army. 682 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 4: So they're like, hey, look what we have. But that's 683 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: literally absolute. 684 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 5: I'm thinking flying cars. 685 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 4: I was thinking about it talking about UFOs right now. 686 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 6: Chan's just that technology, Like I think about back to 687 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 6: the future. You know, he's like it's a skateboard, but 688 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 6: he's like flying in the air. 689 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 5: There's all these things where they predicted in the future 690 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 5: that we would be doing. 691 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 6: Certain things, you know, the flying cars, the flying skateboards, 692 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 6: because it seems like that would be a natural progression 693 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 6: then in the eighties, it's not. 694 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: Now that's true. 695 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: So I just feel like there was obviously some type 696 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 6: of pump the braaks moment, because why wouldn't have those 697 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 6: things happen? 698 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: That makes any sense. 699 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting how you go back. How often science 700 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 4: fiction then, you know, eventually becomes real, which I think 701 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 4: you're pointing to. Dick Tracy a little bit before your 702 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: time had a watch where he could talk face to 703 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 4: face with somebody and that was like, oh my god, magic, 704 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 4: there's no way. And now every single person in here 705 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 4: could talk to anybody anywhere in the world face to 706 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 4: face and an Apple Watch. Yeah, that'll be face to 707 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: face soon too. So these things do become reality. 708 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 6: I think it's probably already something's happened, you know. 709 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: Well, we hear people again coming forward with these ideas 710 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 4: that they say that we've had technology way beyond that. 711 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: We've heard of the the iPad screens that are completely 712 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: clear and you can touch of that these guys claim 713 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 4: to have worked on, and you know, it seems outlandish 714 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: to me, but then when I hear six different people 715 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: say it, it's like, well, maybe there's something to this. 716 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: Why would all six of these guys know about this? Oh? 717 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 6: For sure, Like I said early, it seemed like it 718 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 6: would be a natural progression for those things to happen, 719 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 6: and so them talking about it and those you know, 720 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 6: certain positions. Of course it has to be true. Just 721 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 6: makes sense to me. Technology, it's always growing, it is. 722 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: That's the end of part one of our live show 723 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 4: at Contact in the Desert twenty twenty five. Thank you 724 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 4: very much for listening. Stay tuned for next week we're 725 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: going to do part two of this live recorded podcast 726 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: from Contact in the Desert. You can find me on 727 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: Twitter and Instagram at cd underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected 728 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: by checking out Contactintheedesert dot com. Stay open minded and 729 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 4: rational as we explore the unknown right here on the 730 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 731 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 732 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out all 733 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going to 734 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com.