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Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't.

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Speaker 2: She cleaned and cared for her children and the man

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Speaker 2: of the house, and of course she didn't talk back.

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Speaker 3: She was both obedient and soft by nature.

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Speaker 2: She was a good woman who always made good choices.

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Speaker 4: We're good Mom's bad choices too, single mom who said

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Speaker 4: fuck the patriarchy, shared all their bad choices.

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Speaker 1: And found out they were so bad after all. We're experts,

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Speaker 1: overshares and your new besties. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 5: I can.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to good Mom's bad Choices.

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Speaker 4: I'm Erica and I'm Jamila, and it's Wednesday, motherfuckers.

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Speaker 1: Happy motherfucking hump Day, bitches. Get with you girls on

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Speaker 1: hump Day. Per the usual welcome back, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us again. We really hope you're doing some mumping today,

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Speaker 1: because if you're not, what the fuck are you doing?

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Speaker 1: She did some humpin yeah, yeah, same.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 4: Five We does this.

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Speaker 6: Not to be confused the four and.

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Speaker 1: A half, I'm not gonna go ahead and say we're

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Speaker 1: experts at this shit. We are.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean, We're We're thousands and thousands of hours.

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Speaker 1: We're approaching our twentieth retreat in Jamaica on four twenty.

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Speaker 1: We are numbering. Our numerology is always numerology, except just

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Speaker 1: by accident, and also divine number find alignment, divine number alignment.

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Speaker 1: You know, the girls are always doing it. So yes,

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Speaker 1: we're retreat leader experts and we are here to heal you.

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Speaker 1: So come and have fun and have fun because there's

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Speaker 1: there's there's fun. There's healing in the fun.

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Speaker 6: Wait.

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Speaker 4: I had a call with one of the girl who

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Speaker 4: was considering coming and she's like, so, are we gonna

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Speaker 4: be like crying and shit, because like, I don't really

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Speaker 1: Do you know how many of my friends literally told

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Speaker 1: me they're not coming because they don't want to be crying.

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Speaker 6: And she's like, I don't want to be crying and shit.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, she's like, because i'd be crying

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Speaker 4: and I don't really and that sounds like I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: it just sounds like you might just cry just because

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Speaker 4: you be crying. But I can't really control if you cry.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to say that you might cry,

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Speaker 4: but out of joy and release and space spaciousness. But

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Speaker 4: one thing about after the crying, we always, you know,

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Speaker 4: balance that out with a lot of fun, a lot

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Speaker 4: of just like just fun shit. So just come click

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Speaker 4: the link in this episode description and check out the

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Speaker 4: good vibrantry. Join us, come through, and expand your travel

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Speaker 4: horizons because the US is ghetto as fuck, so we

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Speaker 4: need to get the fuck out of here. Well we can,

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Speaker 4: because I don't even know where we're gonna be at.

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Speaker 1: They don't scare the people. Can just come on vacation

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Speaker 1: stuff fun, Just come on vacation anyway.

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Speaker 6: It's spring.

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Speaker 4: You guys, and and in the spirit of spring, I

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Speaker 4: want to encourage all of us to you know, plant

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Speaker 4: new seats and expand our minds. And you know, we

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Speaker 4: offer that type of.

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Speaker 1: Knowledge. Knowledge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so today I'm really excited because we have

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Speaker 4: a man.

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Speaker 1: On the show for the second time. Yeah. Not just

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Speaker 1: man that we want it back, a divine masculine man.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 4: And you know, y'all fucking loved his episode and the

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Speaker 4: clips because he was lit Okay, paston Reverend Man of God.

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Speaker 4: IM just so excited to welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 4: Best selling author, award winning, award winning holistic educator, recording artist, artist,

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Speaker 4: long long lifelong vegan, Oh God, teach.

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Speaker 1: Me your ways, combat veteran and.

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Speaker 6: Wellness warrior minister, super.

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Speaker 1: Super Nova Slam welcome back to the show with my sisters.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Appreciate you, Thank you for coming back and

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Speaker 1: bracing us with your presence.

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Speaker 3: Good mom salute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good. Blessed. It's been a year to two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I was in Glendale at the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, because when I hit you you're like,

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Speaker 1: how about it a month? I was like, he must

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Speaker 3: I was like four weeks, God, damn moving just moving

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Speaker 1: So this time I'm grateful that you penciled us in.

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Speaker 1: You're a friend of the show, and you're always welcome back.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if you know this, or

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Speaker 4: But when when I was in my last relationship with

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Speaker 4: my alcoholic boyfriend, I made him join your program.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot about this, you sucking girl,

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Speaker 4: I may him join he Man Healed Thyself program because

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Speaker 4: I was like, you was, I was like, you need

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Speaker 6: You need male guidance.

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Speaker 4: You need you need like mentorship, and you need someone

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Speaker 4: that like Because I was like, yeah, you just go

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Speaker 1: Didn't he like save for like he did? He had

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Speaker 4: He was there trying to prove that he was gonna

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Because you're like, he's joining, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna join man. Heal myself. I was like, Okay, he's

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Speaker 3: I was all open arms and squared away. What happened.

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Speaker 3: That's the key, you know, And that's it. That's it,

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Speaker 3: Like the call is for I think, you know, just

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Speaker 3: In the state of the world, the only call that

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Speaker 3: I think for men of all ILKs is to go within.

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Speaker 6: I think I think they're scared to go within, not

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Speaker 3: Cavitat to say what you say merely about being ready, right,

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Speaker 3: like you know, when a man's really ready, when he's

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Speaker 3: And and until he's really sick and tired of being

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Speaker 3: and then he operates from there. Then his relationships reflect

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Speaker 3: that he brings that not wellness behavior to his women

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Speaker 2: Into the society.

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Speaker 3: And so that's I'm just no matter how Graham and

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Speaker 1: I was literally just thinking about this, like looking at

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Speaker 3: It wants you to enroll yourself in that chaos, right right,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well, there are men's retreats.

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Speaker 4: but there are spaces like this.

439
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 6: And the guy uh there was his like.

440
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 4: Bar back, was like, yeah, men have feelings too, we

441
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: need spaces too, and I was like, absolutely do.

442
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, when was the last time.

443
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 4: You like looked in it in your brother's eyes and

444
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 4: just for sixty seconds.

445
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 6: And I was like do it now, and they were.

446
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: Like what bar. Yeah, they were like I could do it.

447
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: I could do it, not mean you gotta challenge him

448
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: do it dry I was.

449
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 4: I was like, come on, let's do it. And he

450
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 4: was like, wed to have conversations, we have deep talks.

451
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 4: And I was like okay, And I was like, do

452
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 4: you talk to me about about father and the struggles

453
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: that you're facing as a father who you know is

454
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 4: no longer with the mother and not co parenting well,

455
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 4: because they are the things that he had shared with me.

456
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 6: And he was just like avoiding it.

457
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 4: And I was like I brought back like okay, guys,

458
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: come on, and they were like, oh, I.

459
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: Got to run to the table.

460
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 4: And and I just so I just stopped and I

461
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: was like, okay, like you're not not that, you're not ready.

462
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 6: I'm perhaps I'm not the facilitator of this.

463
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: Maybe not at the bar during the worship, and they're

464
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: not going to do it any way, but yeah, yeah, I

465
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: mean now they're gonna they're gonna remember Damn. I was

466
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable to do this one thing? Why what was uncomfortable?

467
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, maybe not at the bar, maybe not

468
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 4: at the work shift, but I mean whatever you lead

469
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 4: it like a co ed retreat maybe. But it just

470
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 4: made me think about like how avoidant men are from

471
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 4: these spaces, and like I would imagine like men avoid

472
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 4: your space too, like we'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah,

473
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: I'll get to it.

474
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: What are y'all doing over there?

475
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: You know?

476
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: Was he black? A black man? Yeah?

477
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 4: And and how well you don't have to go to

478
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: war to come like there's other just being black in

479
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: America is traumatic?

480
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 6: Is traumatic enough, right, And so.

481
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: Saying like you don't have about to go to war

482
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: to be traumatic, to have trauma and come back to

483
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: your woman, right who you said your ex wife held

484
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 4: really beautiful space for you and helped you kind of

485
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: integrate back into the world essentially. And I'm just curious

486
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: because we were talking about this on out there just

487
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 4: around holding space, women holding space for men, Like I'm curious,

488
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 4: like in what way maybe did she hold space for

489
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 4: you or like how maybe you can answer that, and

490
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: then also like how as women do we become better

491
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 4: at that? Because I think as women we think that

492
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: we just show up and being in our feminine and

493
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 4: just being a feminine woman, like we automatically like our

494
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: presence is healing, and it's like no, actually, our presence

495
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: can be traumatic as well. We can say the wrong thing,

496
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: we can like actually not be supportive in the way

497
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: that they actually need. And I'm just curious, like what

498
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 4: are what are ways in which like a woman has

499
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: held space for you that has has benefited you.

500
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so sending me down like just one thing that

501
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: she would do the ex wife around when I was

502
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: coming after coming back from combat, she would intentionally, you know,

503
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: have us sit down and just she would just checking in,

504
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: checking in with you, you like, how your emotionally stay,

505
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: how you feeling, how your processing things? And you know, men,

506
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: we don't necessarily have a wouldn't really say that to us,

507
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: you know, so it's like, oh, wow, you know you

508
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: actually she said no, just I want to know, like

509
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: what are you feeling? What have you been feeling? Like

510
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: what's going on? And she would do it in an

511
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: objective way, right, So that's really key. Right, It's like

512
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: because a man is thinking, like what's your angle here?

513
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: You're asking me these things because there's because again, like

514
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: you know, we go.

515
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: How do we remain objective? That's not my strong story.

516
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: No, no, so I'm gonna show you that. So so

517
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: so so the man's trying to figure out, like, are

518
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: you asking because you really want to know? Or is

519
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: this be sharing with you? Is gonna come back and

520
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: bite me later on? And I argument when right?

521
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: I hear that right?

522
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: Right? So she just the way she did it was

523
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: just like she seemed like she genuinely was interested in

524
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 3: my state of my mental state right and then, and

525
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: it allowed me just to just share Loki man today,

526
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: work just happened at training. This was going on there

527
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: and at home even you know me and you. So

528
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: she just even when I would bring it up, and

529
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 3: so when I would bring her up in the update

530
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: and what was a new thing, it was like accountability.

531
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: She'd be like, I see where I was, I did

532
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 3: this and that and that and that you owning up to

533
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: that what this is?

534
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: This is not?

535
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: Like so not only did am I able to share

536
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: with you some of the things that I'm going through internally,

537
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: I highlight maybe a couple of things that are not

538
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: on with me and you.

539
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: She owns her side.

540
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: Clarifies, it apologizes, allows me to be like whatever ego

541
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: I had, you know what, you know, and so now

542
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: we have this new space where now I'm showing up,

543
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: apologizing and saying, yeah, I could have shut up better

544
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: than that.

545
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 7: Right.

546
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: So just having those times, you know, every so often

547
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: when we sat down and just that check base, That's

548
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: how I was appreciative of her holding space, you know,

549
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: because it allowed me to just be transparent and as

550
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: a man, you know, all this is built up, but

551
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm no less of a man if I can communicate

552
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: effectively my feelings like this is, this is what's messing

553
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: with me, right, and then your partner is receiving it

554
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: and not feeling attacked, you know, just listen to this,

555
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: listening to you and say you know what and giving

556
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: you some insight around that that you didn't see, but

557
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: also maybe finding identifying themselves and owning up some stuff

558
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: so it becomes like an owner ownership dance.

559
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: Accountability is important, like finding a place where you can

560
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: like maybe express where maybe you haven't been supportive and

561
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: whatever you're what you've chosen to share so that now

562
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: your partner feels seen.

563
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Like as women do we even have to lie a little.

564
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 6: Bit, like listen, you know what I take accountability.

565
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Even what I'm saying is this is that the magic

566
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: of I think that women don't understand even the beauty

567
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 3: of when you do that, because what it does for

568
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: the man, see a woman thinks, well, not all women

569
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: that may just be phrasy. A woman may think to

570
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: be accountable with something that she has to kind of

571
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: like highlight and make like center stage herself and then

572
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: feel exposed.

573
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 7: Right.

574
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: No, what it does is for it's like, as I said,

575
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: hold space. The way she did it was she kind

576
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: of she allowed me just to communicate without her being

577
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: triggered by whatever right I share what I shared. She said,

578
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: you know what she saw herself in things, she identified

579
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: it and she said she corrected it. You know, I

580
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: apologize and I'm a correct da da da. That allowed

581
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: me to just remove the ego further in her just

582
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: her being accountable and then say, you know what, I

583
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: think I was an asshole this time. I was not

584
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: on point. I can do this better. So it she

585
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: she triggered this thing where she owned it, but then

586
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: I also owned it too. And then so in that

587
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: moment our relationship took a different expansion. You see, I'm

588
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: saying it's not gonna say being an attack, like an

589
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: attack situation where you're holding space is making you feel,

590
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 3: you know, guilty because I'm folks. No, It's like, you know,

591
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: most men do not really open up like that. So

592
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: you just allow, you know, just saying certain things to

593
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: kind of have him open up without him feeling like

594
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna it's gonna feel like you knows. As an agenda,

595
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: I think, I think I just think that it can

596
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: open up a whole nother possibility for the man to

597
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: show up for his woman in the relationship.

598
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: I guess. I think it's also like any relationship, you

599
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: have to choose are you choosing to date someone like

600
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: are we are our egos dating right? Or are we

601
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna be friends and do this? So I realized, like

602
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're coming in with our armor

603
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: and our ego is wrapped in that armor because we're

604
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: afraid based on past experiences. If I've been her, if

605
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: I've been crossed, if I've been lied to, if someone,

606
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: if I've been vulnerable and then someone has thrown it

607
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: back in my face, I'm going to approach most relationships

608
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: with my armor. On first. So it's at a place

609
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: where like our straw men are kind of dating, like

610
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: our our representatives, our avatars are dating or loving each other,

611
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: and it's in a form of protection versus I'm choosing

612
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: to remove all of that. I'm choosing to let go

613
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: of all that and see you as my friend. I

614
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of times in my like in my

615
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: relationship with the Lando, Hey, I don't necessarily have all

616
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: the tools, but we've agreed to start and to be friends,

617
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: and I think that has allowed me to remove armor

618
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: and then really watch and observe where I want to

619
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: put that shit on and be like, fuck you. I

620
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: want to be like, bitch, are you crazy talking to

621
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: me this way? You know what I mean? But like

622
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: when you can start to remove the armor, remove the

623
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: walls that we build, because a lot of it's for protection,

624
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: but it's ego, and I think sometimes we forget to

625
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: approach each other just as homies and as humans. I

626
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: was just thinking about this time recently we were in

627
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: Bali and we were about to do a retreat and

628
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm a friendly bitch. I'm a friendly bitch and I'm

629
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: a fun chaser. I don't know if this is good

630
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: or bad, but this is what it is. And it

631
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: was like a couple nights before we started our retreat.

632
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: We had been there a week and it was Erica

633
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: and I and two other fronts no my three other friends,

634
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: and we met some We met some black men at

635
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the restaurant and they're from Louisiana, big black men, but

636
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: they seem cool and they're like yeah, everybody, and they're

637
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: with a girl and they're like, it's my birthday. Come

638
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: come to our place. And I was like, let's go, guys,

639
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: let's go. And they're like, we don't know them. I

640
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: was like, they seem harmless, they seem nice. They made

641
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: it all the way to Bali. They got there, you know,

642
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: like they're black men doing their thing. They're kind of

643
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: our age. We're younger than us. So somehow I convinced

644
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: two of my friends to go, and then I called

645
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Orlando and I was like, we're going. We met some

646
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: black guys, they're from Louisiana. They seem nice. It's his birthday.

647
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna be around bitches for the next two weeks.

648
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: We might as well just be around some masculine energy.

649
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: And he was like, absolutely not. But we were already

650
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: in the car. So I was like, listen, babe, I'm

651
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. I've survived this long. You can

652
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: trust me. We're just gonna go hang out a little bit.

653
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: There's a girl over there. I'll be in communication. I

654
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from. I understand that this seems

655
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: like a bad idea because there's nothing you could do.

656
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm in a foreign country, I weigh ninety eight pounds.

657
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: I understand all those things. But I need you to

658
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: trust me, and everything's gonna be fine. So he was upset,

659
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: and then my homegirl was like, I don't know why

660
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: we're going. I was like, I was like, you're going

661
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: back to the bus riding. I was back at the hotel.

662
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: So we went, and Lenda was not that thrilled about

663
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: my decision, and I understood. I understood his concerns. I understood.

664
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: I voiced them. I said, I love you, I understand

665
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. I am already in the car.

666
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: I'll call you when I get back. I'm safe. I'll

667
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: keep in contact. And we went. We sang Happy Birthday,

668
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: we went Skinny Dippy, we played his Chicken Fight. I

669
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: played Truth to Day. I was bossing them around like

670
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm married, you did this, you did this, and then

671
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: we danced a little bit and then we left. We

672
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: left like two hours later, and it was a great time.

673
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: And I called him. We called him when we got

674
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: home and I was like, we're home and we're fine

675
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: and we're fun. He was like, you're so annoying, but okay,

676
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: and he was okay. And I think in a lot

677
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: I realized and a lot of my past relationships, a

678
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: I would got cursed out, I'd have been called a hoe,

679
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: I'd have been called in a different country four hundred times.

680
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that I was used to.

681
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: But in this relationship, I recognize that I can be

682
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: he can beat my friend, and I can have these conversations.

683
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I can also see his perspective as a husband and

684
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: as a protector, and he can also see me as

685
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: a friend and a home and a homegirl. I'll be like,

686
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: this bitch is a little crazy. I know she wants

687
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: to go have fun. I'm gonna I'm gonna curse around

688
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I'm gonna release the you know,

689
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: my control and allow it to happen. And then I

690
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: call and he's like you're fucking crazy. I'm happy you

691
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: had fun. It's six am here, I'm going to work

692
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: by bitch and everything's fine, you know. But there comes

693
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: to a point where like I can actually talk to

694
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: him as like my homie, and I can be honest.

695
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm not lying about it. I'm not. In other places,

696
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I just would have not called. I've been like I'm

697
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: in the bay bye. Like, but there's a level and

698
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: a sense of respect as a friend and a homie

699
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: that we can meet in the middle. And like, because

700
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: I've experienced him in that way, I know I can

701
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: approach things, even things that are not ideal.

702
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: I can I ask a question with that meeting in

703
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: the middle, how can you inspire your sisters to meet

704
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: in the middle, Because I think that's that's what we're

705
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: trying to figure out with this dynamic between the push

706
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: pull that men and woman experience. It you know, you're

707
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: paying my pain, you're paying my pain. How would you

708
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: inspire someone in the union to try to get that?

709
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: I think it's about really choosing to have a friendship,

710
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: like removing the visceral. The visceral want to like attack

711
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: the visual, I want to dig your teeth in or

712
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: sink your clawse in and keep or like just hold

713
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: it on tighter. The things that we've generally been taught

714
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: that are like the walls surrounding relationships or the rules

715
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: surrounding relationships. I have to respect this person as an

716
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: adult and as a human being and as an individual.

717
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: And he has to respect me as an adult and

718
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: as an individual and as a human being. And you're

719
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: not gonna do things that I fuck with all the time.

720
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: But I know you, and I trust you, and I

721
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: love you. And if you're my friend telling me the

722
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: same information, I wouldn't react a certain way. But because

723
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I've been told that this this and this means this

724
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: in a relationship, then I I react a certain way

725
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: immediately without even digesting the full scope of what's happening

726
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: and recognizing that you're my friend and you are not

727
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: trying to harm me or hurt me or lie to me,

728
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: And then I can I can look at it from

729
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: a different lens versus just as jealousy or you're going

730
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: to fuck up, or you're out to lie or do

731
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: some fuck shit. It's like, just like he had to

732
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: look at me and be like, this bitch is just

733
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: trying to go have a good time and she's.

734
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: So what I the word respect comes out that you

735
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: kept highlighting. So that's a respect, that's that's a glue. Yeah.

736
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: I think respect, basic respect.

737
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: Basic respect, and then friendship.

738
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: Friendship, I think is on the h one of the

739
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: highest things on a relationship total poll that you have

740
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: to like, how I would be with Erica or my

741
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: homegirl or you would be with your homeboy. Are you

742
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: going to operate in the same way with your woman,

743
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, in the same understanding.

744
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Or the friendship and the respect?

745
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

746
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so would you would you affirm that?

747
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

748
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

749
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 4: I would also say that I would say that ninety

750
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: percent of people in relationships would say that they're friends

751
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: with their partner, even if they even if perhaps yeah,

752
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: I would say that most people are not going to

753
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: be like I don't that's not my friend, you know

754
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: what I mean, especially if they're married. They're creating life together,

755
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: they've you know, they living under the same roof. So

756
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: I think that like even hearing that, you know that notion,

757
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: like people would be like, yeah, that's me too. But

758
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: then there's like there is the removal of the ego,

759
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: and then there is the removal of I mean, obviously,

760
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: you and Orlando have a very specific partnership, Like not

761
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: a lot of people might be able to be that

762
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: honest and open and safe and or accepting of how

763
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: the other person wants to show up. And I'm sure

764
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: it's been a journey too, Like especially like, would you

765
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: say that Orlando giving you space to do that? If

766
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: he like, could you have started that with him? Like

767
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, like if he did the same thing

768
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: that you did in BALI right, but Orlando has showing

769
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: you over and over again that he can hold space

770
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: for you in that way. If he hadn't, would you

771
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: give him the same space?

772
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean? Like did he have

773
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 6: to start that in order for it to be reciprocated?

774
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I think I've definitely tested it. But I also think

775
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: that I've, like I said, I've been in relationships that

776
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: were so starkly opposite and so containing that I was

777
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: I was adamant about any relationship that I was going

778
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: to be and I was going to be just super honest,

779
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: and that was my standard. And I think a lot

780
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: of times people women's particularly don't start there because there's

781
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of rhetoric around what it means to be

782
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: a woman, and like there's just a lot of ego

783
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: wrapped in, like what my woman does. But I think

784
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: I was because I've had bad experiences and I've had

785
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: trauma in that way, I was very adamant about this

786
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: is who I am, this is how this is how

787
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: I move, and if you are not someone who can

788
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: see yourself accepting it, this is not something that I'm

789
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: going to accept. And I've tested it so that i've like,

790
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: and I'm probably tested a little too far just to

791
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: see if he go and busts or like, if it's

792
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: true or if it's real, and he's proven over and

793
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: over again that you know, there's trust and love and respect,

794
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: so there's no need to test it, you know. But

795
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: I think that in the beginning being blatantly honest was

796
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: a part of it, because I don't see a lot

797
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: of men being able to handle that. And then also

798
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: him showing me that you know, he can, and then

799
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I have no choice but to show up in the

800
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: same way that I'm requesting and being woman enough to

801
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: be like, damn, I don't love that, but damn, this

802
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: is what it looks like to date myself. Okay, Well,

803
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: here we are very annoying, not a divert.

804
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: But I realized, we haven't asked you if you've made

805
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: any bad choices this week.

806
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: Bad mom, not a bad mom, but.

807
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: A bad mom. So good I'm living.

808
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 6: Because I guess it's not a diversion because to some that.

809
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Would be a really bad choice.

810
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: You know, someone listening and be like, oh.

811
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: Hell no, yes, I would say yeah. I would say yeah.

812
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a recent yeah.

813
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 1: But the joy it brought me the joy. But I'm saying,

814
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: but for you, it wasn't a bad but I knew

815
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: he was upset, But the joy it brought me to

816
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: call him when I got home and be like, we

817
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: had a good time, and he'd be like, you're crazy,

818
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, Like okay, well I'm happy. The joy it

819
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: brought me to be able to have and communicate that

820
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: whether it be good or bad or different. And it

821
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: could have went bad. I mean, you know, but in

822
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: in my instuition, I knew it was gonna be fine

823
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: and it was a good time. It brings me so

824
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: much joy to know that I have a relationship and

825
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: a man that I can be completely honest with and

826
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: say we're gonna be around bitches for two weeks. Let

827
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: me just let me just go be around some men

828
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: for two like some black men. I don't know. I

829
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna see the black man in Bali and then

830
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: be like whatever, girl, you need a lot of attention.

831
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: But you know, like and we went back and forth

832
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. But the relief of I'm still loved,

833
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: I'm still safe, and the relief for him to be like,

834
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: I know, I can still trust this person. That is

835
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: what every time is gonna bring me like closer and

836
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: closer to home, right into a feeling of, oh, this

837
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: is a genuine honest relationship.

838
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: Well, hey had trust, he trust, he trusted himself, and

839
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: he trusted you.

840
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

841
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: I think if he had, if he didn't trust himself,

842
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: he can also portray that, you know, to you as well.

843
00:40:53,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: You know, speaking of that, I didn't. I didn't. I

844
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: didn't stay on an affirmed boundary with some family you know,

845
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: usually I do. You know. My intuition was like, don't overextend,

846
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: don't over communicate, and I did. And I just jumped

847
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: out that, you know, left the intuition alone and went

848
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: in it. And it was it was madness, so you know,

849
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: just just it was. It was a reminder to respect

850
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: that internal the voice that keeps you squared away, and

851
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: and when you have that boundary with you yourself or

852
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: whatever that was, maybe fortify those.

853
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, even with family, especially family.

854
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was my bad choice recently that I

855
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: didn't affirm the boundaries.

856
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: I think we can all relate to that in some capacity. Yeah,

857
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: so thank you for sharing.

858
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 6: I wanted to share. I wanted us to watch a

859
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 6: clip together.

860
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that I think as we're talking about just women

861
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: and men and the rules and the.

862
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 6: Egos and the rules, the rules, the supposed.

863
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Rules or the rules. I mean, where are the rules?

864
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Where's the rule book? I mean they're on the internet.

865
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: Don't got just to give a good list chat GBT.

866
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure we don't.

867
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 6: Gather all of the internet.

868
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: Who the fuck is asking chat GBT for dating advice? Everyone?

869
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 6: A lot of people.

870
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I think it's really strange.

871
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: I just had a full conversation. Folks are having full confessionals.

872
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: With this is a problem.

873
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: I just had a call.

874
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: If we're more if we're more prone to talk to

875
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: our robots than to each other, what the fuck is

876
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: actually going on?

877
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

878
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you that's true, that's a big issue.

879
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: I just got a call with a friend of mine

880
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 4: who runs a nonprofit and she, you know, works with

881
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: a lot of young young kids between the ages of

882
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: like I don't know, like eight and eight seventeen, and

883
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: she was saying how a lot of her programs are

884
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: kind of falling apart because they don't want to sit

885
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: in and listen anymore because they can just go on

886
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: chat GBT and AI and ask and get all get

887
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: the same Like they're very therapyse yeah, either like they'll

888
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: get relationship advice on chatgy or therapy advice on chat gibt.

889
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: That they don't actually.

890
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: Want to talk to a human because because the machine

891
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: is going to know exactly who they are, what they think,

892
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: what they've been through, and then regurgitate some bol like

893
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 4: maybe not bullshit because there probably is, there is some

894
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: good stuff there, but it's not from a human heart,

895
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: you know.

896
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: And so I was like, Wow, she's crazy.

897
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: Okay, So this is a clip that went viral a

898
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: few weeks ago with Cam Newton, our favorite not favorite

899
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 4: person in the world. I would love for him to

900
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: come on the show because okay, I would love for

901
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: him to use all his big words that he says

902
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: incorrectly and maybe he actually you probably need to talk

903
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: to him low key. I would love to watch a

904
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: conversation with YouTube I vote.

905
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: For I don't even want to do it.

906
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: Come here on this couch and we're facilitated for you.

907
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: I would love to watch that beat. That was so good.

908
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: But anyway, he was talking to Sarah font To, not

909
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: I think that's how you say her name, who also

910
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: is an interesting woman with a lot of strong perspectives

911
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 4: around femininity and how a woman is supposed to act

912
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: in a relationship to attract a man and keep him,

913
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: which I don't agree with a lot of the things

914
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: she says.

915
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 6: But anyway, it doesn't matter. This is the clip.

916
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 7: Let's just be honest.

917
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: This is my question.

918
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 8: Do you feel like women's value gets lowered when they

919
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 8: have multiple children by multiple men?

920
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 7: I just think that the reality of that answer is

921
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 7: women's value get lower the more children.

922
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: That they have.

923
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 9: Break that down, because and I was having this conversation,

924
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 9: you know, with one of the mother of my children,

925
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 9: and she's still fine, you know what I'm saying. But

926
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 9: like I was telling her, I was like, yo, the

927
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 9: god that you're dating or will date if he ain't

928
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 9: willing to love on these five children that you have

929
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 9: that didn't dig God for you because I came into

930
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 9: your life. I was willing to accept you and whatever

931
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 9: you had. And there's guys that's out there that's just

932
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 9: going to say my kids, I want you. Well, that

933
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 9: ain't how at work. But that's not to say that

934
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 9: she can't find nobody. I'm pretty sure she has somebody.

935
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 8: Right, But do you feel like it's as the best

936
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 8: that she could possibly do is she didn't have children.

937
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 9: Well, you're talking to a dude that was once in

938
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 9: her life. I don't feel like she's gonna get better

939
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 9: than me. That's just my confidence.

940
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 8: I don't even think it's confidence I have said, and

941
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 8: I might get eaten alive. I don't think most women

942
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 8: do better than the father of their children. I really

943
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 8: don't think that.

944
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 7: It's really that's the barometer. It's real love. Like I

945
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 7: owe a service to them.

946
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 9: I will forever being debted to them, because no matter

947
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 9: how they make me feel, once I come back to

948
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 9: you know the ground of like yo, that's still the

949
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 9: mother of my children.

950
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 7: It's one of those like family businesses type of situation.

951
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 9: You can have our spats, but when we leave his dough,

952
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 9: you will never necessarily know.

953
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: And we know he was saying all types of stuff

954
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: like like what what what? What stood out for you

955
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 3: that you want to highlight that because he said something

956
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: and that he kind of contradicted.

957
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: What he was saying.

958
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: Contradicted, Yeah, because he said the value the woman goes

959
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: down more kids.

960
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: But then he said the mother my baby Bobble with

961
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: five kids. Obviously you were the man who entertained the

962
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: woman with kids.

963
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: But then he also said that a man, those are

964
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: his kids. But then he also said that a woman

965
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: a man should come into him his life and you know,

966
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: appreciate all that she comes with. So I was I

967
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 3: was trying to figure out what what was his main

968
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: It was controversial, but what was his main argument? Because

969
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: he kept trying to he kept coming back to the

970
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: dynamic between him and him and his baby's mother. So

971
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: what did y'all get from what I was trying to say?

972
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: What I think did I get if I'm translating man correctly,

973
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: is that socially, in a society viewpoint, the more children

974
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: a woman has, the less worthy or the less likely

975
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: she is going to be with a high value man

976
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: or pursued by a man, and that there are some

977
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: men that will accept you with these children, but may

978
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: not really be all in with the children. Okay, And

979
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: then you hear the woman say, I don't think blah

980
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. So I think overall, the observation

981
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: that I'm making is that a how deeply women are

982
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: impacted by the patriarchy. And I think that men are

983
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: operating in this standard of thinking that societally, if you

984
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of kids or a lot of baby daddies,

985
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: no one's going to want you. But he himself proves

986
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: that that is not correct because he pursued this woman,

987
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: and be a lot of women prove that is not

988
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: correct because lots of women remarry after having multiple baby

989
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: daddies or multiple children and their stepdaddy's galore. I got

990
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: one right in the next room. So I think that

991
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: it's mostly about not like especially for women, especially for

992
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: women listening to this show, because I know a lot

993
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: of women are moms. Stop believing the bullshit. Stop believing

994
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: the hype because society paints a picture or you hear

995
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: some shit on the internet from a nigga and a hat.

996
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't if it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

997
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: You choose what you adopt as the truth. You choose

998
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: what you adopt as the standard. And I think me

999
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: and Erica we talked about this a lot when we

1000
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: started Good Moms. There was a sense of this overwhelm

1001
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: of like, I'm going to be a single black mom

1002
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: because there's an overwhelming amount of propaganda around being a

1003
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: single black mom, not a single white mom so much,

1004
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: but specifically a single black mom because they were black,

1005
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: because the media, because of the things are like, there's

1006
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are make this a heavier

1007
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: I guess, a different a different standard it seems perceived

1008
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: to be. So if you live your life and the

1009
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: perception of society, then that's what you'll get.

1010
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: I think that.

1011
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I would argue that.

1012
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: And I haven't looked at the comments that a lot

1013
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: of the women were angry because they actually don't agree

1014
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: with this bullshit and like they actually don't agree that

1015
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 4: because they have multiple children that now they're deemed less

1016
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: valuable because perhaps they've proven that concept incorrect already because

1017
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: they have love in their life or and.

1018
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: You know, and I think also it's just funny about.

1019
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: And there's probably a lot of men like, yeah, nobody

1020
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: wants a woman with a bunch of keys, right, all.

1021
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: Right, including my father who said that on our episode.

1022
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 4: And I think, like, which is you know, a mentality,

1023
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: a certain mentality of a certain age that has still

1024
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 4: spread like poison into our into the into men that

1025
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: are are age and younger still. And I think also

1026
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 4: just to comment on what she said about your child's

1027
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: father being like the gold standard, I think it's interesting

1028
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 4: because this is the same woman who is always talking

1029
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: about how you can't speak on certain shit because you're

1030
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: not a fiance or.

1031
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: You can't see she's married.

1032
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I'm just saying you can't.

1033
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like, I hate the rhetoric around people

1034
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 4: that people use marriage and being chosen as protection as

1035
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: to now they're the expert and they can say this

1036
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: or that, and if that's the truth, bitch, you're not

1037
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: a mom, so you don't fucking know anything about it.

1038
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: What it even feels like to have a relationship that

1039
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: is disappointing and you have a child with that person

1040
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: and then it ends, and then you realize that person

1041
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: was not good to you, and then you do find

1042
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: someone good.

1043
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 6: So how dare you sit there and tell.

1044
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: Mothers that their baby daddy who might have beat on

1045
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: them or whatever the fuck is.

1046
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: The bram barometer or whatever the fuck words you said.

1047
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: And I mean, someone is not growing, right, So the

1048
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: assumption is that the the woman is stuck in time

1049
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: at that time when she could have been eighteen when

1050
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 3: she had her baby's daddy, and then twenty years later

1051
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 3: now she's what thirty eight. Prayerfully she has grown mentally,

1052
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: she's you know, she's more experiences. She's not in the

1053
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: same space energetically. So I just think that you see,

1054
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: it's you know, when you in war, right, one of

1055
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: the things you have to look at is the constant

1056
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: deception that you're being exposed to. Everything that you see

1057
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: in the headline is not It may not necessarily be real, like,

1058
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: so you have to actually scroll and look at things

1059
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 3: two or three times. It may be ai, it may

1060
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: be propaganda stuff. That's what's happened in that ground, right, right,

1061
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: But that's what men and women, that's what we do

1062
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,959
Speaker 3: online like this. The war is so because it's all pain.

1063
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: It's all pain. It's all our pain, right, And so

1064
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: when different people are in different positions to have a conversation.

1065
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: We have to always remember they're having the conversation from

1066
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: their perspective of their pain. Right now. Now, this thing

1067
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: the reason why we were able to attract in conversations

1068
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: because we can relate. Even if I don't went through that,

1069
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: somebody I know went through that. So this intrigues me.

1070
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: Let me listen, right, but remember it's a perspective of

1071
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: the pain, you know. And I would tell the sisters

1072
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: that listening to that comment, who are mothers? You don't

1073
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: have to take that in, John, You don't have to.

1074
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: You don't have to localize that pain body. That's being

1075
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: that you're being listened, that's that you're taking in. You

1076
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 3: don't have to make that personalize that. You can leave

1077
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: it objectively. Listen to that, disagree, but you don't have

1078
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: to weaponize that in your consciousness because now if you

1079
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: weaponize it, when you do attract a man, the weapon

1080
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: you weaponize.

1081
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: You're comparing something that you left for a reason. You know,

1082
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: because Sarah Fontenant said that your baby daddy is the

1083
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: fucking barometer. And I think that that's really dangerous. And

1084
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 4: I think it's also really dangerous to listen to some

1085
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 4: of these internet, your idols on the Internet who are

1086
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: literally saying things to stir you up, because I think

1087
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: that that's a lot of her platform, their platform is designed,

1088
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: and perhaps she really does believe in all the things

1089
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: she says, but some of them are so irresponsible for

1090
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: for vulnerable people listening and watching that it pisss me off.

1091
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: And you know, I think I'm thinking about too, like

1092
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: this idea of like, you know, parents and or moms specifically,

1093
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 4: like being lower in value because my dad. You mentioned

1094
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: that you watched the saw the clip of me and

1095
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 4: my dad and we had a great episode and shout

1096
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: out to all the people that reached out to me.

1097
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: And you know, I see all the comments of a

1098
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 4: lot of angry women in the clip around my dad

1099
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: saying he had this hatred for my mother. But he

1100
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: also he also said a lot of shit on that

1101
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 4: episode that really made me cringe hard. I was like,

1102
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: I really struggled with whether or not I was like,

1103
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to expose him like this.

1104
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did because whatever, that's that's what we

1105
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: do here. But and he said what he said, but

1106
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: he was talking a lot about high value man. And

1107
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: we know where that comes from. We know where that

1108
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 4: specific term. I'm sure it's said long before Kevin Samuels

1109
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 4: came to be and left, but that that word is

1110
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: associated with him.

1111
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: And so my dad kept.

1112
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: Saying, like, no, no high value man is going to

1113
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 4: want to date a woman with multiple children.

1114
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 6: No high value man.

1115
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: So I'm curious, as someone who leads men, what is

1116
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 4: do you subscribe to this concept of a high value

1117
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 4: man or like this, like art, like this hierarchy of

1118
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 4: what what like a man is?

1119
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: So I look at that from a different place to

1120
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: high value man, right, because most times when when that's

1121
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: being sold to men by other men, it's more it's

1122
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: more economics, right, It's more about status and economics, right,

1123
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: and finance and finance, it's more finance, social hierarchy. Right.

1124
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: So you're below me, I'm the predator. I'm up here, right.

1125
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of that, right. So holistically, when

1126
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm talking about it, you know, I'm talking about men

1127
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: doing the inner work, you know, the the child wound. Right.

1128
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 3: Most of our relationships as men dealing with women specifically

1129
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 3: come from some level of the child wound, whether it

1130
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: be abandonment, the mother had a mother that was actually

1131
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: helping you and loving you. She may have been a

1132
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: single mother, but she was not really there. I mean,

1133
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: you may have been a latchkey kid. You know what

1134
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you had to do for yourself. All of

1135
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 3: that informs how he develops. Right. So the coin flip

1136
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: when I talked about high value men is for men

1137
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: that your value is determined on the work that you

1138
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: do for yourself and the work you're willing to do

1139
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: to inform how your your mind is. With state you're in,

1140
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: what are you willing to do to nourse yourself there?

1141
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: Where you're at spiritually, where you at physically? Are you

1142
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: moving your body right? Okay? Where are you economically? So

1143
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: these are all of these things work in tandem to

1144
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: inform your value onto yourself, not from a place of

1145
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: the war thing that we talked about earlier, the mass

1146
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: mask and femino dynamic. And my high value is bigger

1147
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 3: than yours and better than yours. I feel that. Listen,

1148
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: if the sister is doing the same thing, it's a

1149
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 3: camera effect. You know, if you're pouring into yourself daily

1150
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: and checking your nervous system and holding that space for

1151
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: yourself and I'm doing the same thing. That's the fellowship

1152
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: that I'm that I would like to be part of,

1153
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,959
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Where the men is doing

1154
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: the inner work, the woman is doing her inner work,

1155
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 3: and then together they can figure out what that looks

1156
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: like for each other.

1157
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: Right.

1158
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: It's not that be perfect, right, but we're willing to

1159
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 3: do what expand right. And so that's the lens that

1160
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 3: if that makes sense to y'all, That's what I look

1161
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 3: at when I talk about high value. It's more about

1162
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 3: going with then addressing some things and working on yourself

1163
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: to attain that for yourself, not from a place of

1164
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 3: abdomination and so.

1165
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: High So does does your does your definition of a

1166
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 4: high value man? And what like the woman that he

1167
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: chooses If she's made a lot of bad choices, but

1168
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: she's now working on herself, right, does that mean that

1169
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: she is not now worthy of because she has maybe

1170
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: maybe she has four baby daddies, who knows, you know,

1171
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: but she's she's doing the inner work, she's working, she's

1172
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: a great mom, she's you know, takes care of her

1173
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: kids and does.

1174
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 6: Is a high value.

1175
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: Man who is maybe or maybe she's just in the

1176
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: beginning of her work, How does that, how does that relationship?

1177
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: How what is the value then?

1178
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: Okay, the value for that particular scenario that's determined on

1179
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: both of y'all identifying.

1180
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 2: How did we get here?

1181
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: Because see if if if I am this status, this person,

1182
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: and you or who you are, however we got there,

1183
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: that's the interest. It's not even about what I do

1184
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: and where you came from. Right, you don't put the

1185
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: onus on where you how decisions you made are the

1186
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: things that I got. It has to be.

1187
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: About how did we get here?

1188
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: Right?

1189
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: It is? You know, so if we if we're here,

1190
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: now come I come from where you come, You come

1191
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: from where you come from, and we have an interest.

1192
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: The thing to figure out is how can we build

1193
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: on this interest. If I get caught up in the

1194
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: ego I got this and that that that, and I

1195
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: use that to dominate you, then I'm the interest will

1196
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: go down and the connection between me and you. If

1197
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: you're if you're not open to expand yourself and you're

1198
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: so hard on yourself because you came from what you

1199
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 3: came from and the choices you've made, and you don't

1200
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: see the blessing of the fact that you're here in

1201
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: that present, the present, then the value goes down. So

1202
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: it's where we place the attention. Once we have the

1203
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: attraction right now, we're gonna have the noise in the comments.

1204
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: They're gonna be people still talking one thing, women and men.

1205
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: Right we're talking about the men and women that regardless

1206
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: of where they come from, they're able to find that

1207
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: place with each other that has to be protected. Okay,

1208
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: we are we willing to protect this connection from our

1209
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: own bullshit, our own overthinking. You know, is this more

1210
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: valuable than what I think I know or what you

1211
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: think you know? See that? See that? That's the thing.

1212
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 3: This is the thing with the matchic between maskul and feminine.

1213
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 10: We know how to get it, all of us, but

1214
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 10: we don't know how to keep it in growth, in development.

1215
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: Why because once we get it and we grow it,

1216
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: the other thing that we bought starts kicking in to

1217
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: make us upt this.

1218
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: You follow me, So if we wanted to protect this.

1219
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: We have to check that well.

1220
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: Because if you're if you're, if you're clear enough to say,

1221
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: there is something that instinctively or intuitively brought me here.

1222
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: There's an attraction that we're here, a real like a

1223
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: mature human being is not going to be like, well,

1224
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: what does your bank account look like? Or how many

1225
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: people who at the end of the day, whoever you

1226
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: are attracted to in this very moment, everything that they've

1227
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: done up until that point has brought them to this dement.

1228
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter who she slept with, the mistakes

1229
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: she made. I mean, obviously matters. You can go down

1230
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: those that road and those things. But are you here

1231
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: to judge and pick apart the places the other person

1232
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: has been or are you seeing the current result of

1233
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: who this person is now and who you're drawing attraction

1234
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: to and respecting the evolved product of the journey.

1235
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, listen, listen.

1236
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: It's either if it ain't a line lit lie right,

1237
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: Because Okay, if the guy has all of these resources

1238
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: and he's in he's in his alignment with this woman.

1239
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: If he if he knows who he is in.

1240
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 3: That alignment, he's going to see her. He's gonna see

1241
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: the value in her. It's not about none to all

1242
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 3: see a man that masters logistics, and you have to

1243
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: if you're coming from that world, you have to master logistics.

1244
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: So you just put you just aligned, you just align

1245
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: her with.

1246
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: Some logistics get a squared away.

1247
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1248
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: She may not have that, but she has a whole

1249
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: other thing that can support that.

1250
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: But if you have all the logistics and you have

1251
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: the bank account that reflects it, it doesn't necessarily always

1252
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: mean that you've done all the other work.

1253
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no no, it doesn't.

1254
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: So it has to go both ways. Absolutely, you can

1255
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: find a man who has a lot of money. He

1256
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: could be the biggest provider, or the bank account can

1257
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: can reflect that. But if he doesn't value providing or

1258
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: being like doesn't mean you have access to it doesn't

1259
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: mean that he's like fully developed emotionally or in a

1260
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: mature manner. I think that we have to examine. This

1261
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: is the easiest way I could put it. Real niggas

1262
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: recognize real niggas.

1263
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: We could just do that proverb.

1264
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Real niggas recognized REALI.

1265
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: And that's it, And so instead made made a real

1266
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: always thrive. That's it. Like if if if it ain't

1267
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: your tribe, let it fly. Like some people are just

1268
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: not necessarily aligned, you know, And it transcends that whole

1269
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 3: thing of I'm high value.

1270
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: If it has to be itemized, then you don't get it.

1271
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Then we don't get it.

1272
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: So so so, so let me tell you something that

1273
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: a woman can bring to the table. Please, you want

1274
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: to know what's you don't want? You want to know

1275
01:02:53,920 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: for a man, for real, what's greater than even good pussy?

1276
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 3: Because men love good pussy?

1277
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: But what's better than some good pussy? It's some good piece.

1278
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: I can provide from here to there and everywhere.

1279
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: The pussy could be good, but if you're gonna give

1280
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: me some good piece, praise the Lord.

1281
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: Seeing A man can't get pussy right, you know, you

1282
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: can get it. And the pussy may not be all qualitative,

1283
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: but you can get a lot of it.

1284
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: But when you get that good pussy, then you get

1285
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: that good.

1286
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: Piece that pissy you can bring to the tape.

1287
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 6: Say that again, I don't know that's nice?

1288
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 11: Just okay, okay, you see okay, okay, so you see

1289
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 11: so listen.

1290
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: So so I think I think men will appreciate that

1291
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 3: being brought to the ta Kimmy, right, you hear that?

1292
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: Can you bring some uc because you know what, there's

1293
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: there's a man listening right now. And you had that

1294
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: good pussy and it was connected to a crazyzy bit,

1295
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: right crazy, and you went back for that good pussy

1296
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: multiple times, and each.

1297
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 4: Time listen, I can already I can already see the comments.

1298
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 4: The women all be like, where are you? You're not

1299
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 4: my piece?

1300
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: How much? But your piece?

1301
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 6: What about our piece?

1302
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, bitches do it too. I've been

1303
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: digmatized by the wrong dick, and I was going back

1304
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, bitch your nuts, there's no there's

1305
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: no good dick good enough for this crit right. So

1306
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I just say, like you are.

1307
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 6: All women are like, yes, I agree with that.

1308
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I agree with that. But then sometimes like niggas don't

1309
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: be deserving the piece. Well, you know, they don't deserve

1310
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: the piece, they don't deserve the pussy.

1311
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: Yes, if they don't.

1312
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: If I don't have if I don't feel called to

1313
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: provide you peace, if I don't, if I don't come,

1314
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you want a sandwich? You know, if

1315
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to if when we are in union

1316
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: right and we're not both experiencing the highest form of

1317
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: pleasure orgasm together in a way that afterwards I genuinely

1318
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: felt so euphoric that I now am at a place

1319
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: of peace, and I want to expand upon that piece

1320
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: and what are we talking about like emotional piece not

1321
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: just like you. No, I'm saying that they are synonymous.

1322
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying you can have good pussier dick. And if

1323
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: the piece is not connected to it, eventually it expires.

1324
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: If you are getting out of the realm of toxic participation.

1325
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: There we go. So we get to a point right

1326
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 3: where men and women from wherever they may be, right,

1327
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 3: they just get to a point where they.

1328
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: Just want the better for themselves.

1329
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 7: Right.

1330
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: They've been through the toxic relationships, they've been through the dynamics,

1331
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: and they just you got women who just over it

1332
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: and mental over over it. Right, And so when you

1333
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 3: get to that place, you'd rather be single in being

1334
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 3: your peace than with someone you attracted to that you

1335
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 3: have the dynamic with and they just bring in so

1336
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 3: much chaos to you, you know, because you've worked to

1337
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 3: keep that piece in other areas, like you're working to

1338
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: expand yourself emotionally, mentally, even economically. And so someone is

1339
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: not in harmony, you know, let's say your women and

1340
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: your your moguls. You're doing your thing if if your

1341
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: mates are not in harmony, even if you'll love you

1342
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: love them and committed to them. It can throw off

1343
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: the business and even how you work right, experienced, Right,

1344
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So there has to be some

1345
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: type of for both, for both. It's not like you said.

1346
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Women in the comments may say it. No, women should

1347
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: have their piece as well.

1348
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to know.

1349
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 4: So how does a woman bring peace to a man's life?

1350
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure it's different for I'm sure men

1351
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: have different things that they need. But generally, I think

1352
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: I think as women sometimes we're confused, like we think

1353
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: we're being we're offering peace, but maybe we're not.

1354
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 6: Like what are ways in which we can offer men

1355
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 6: more people?

1356
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 7: Well?

1357
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 3: Another thing is know the element you're working with. Right,

1358
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 3: So I'm an air sign, right, I'm an aquarian, but

1359
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: i'm I'm I know all my charts, but I'm telling

1360
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: you I function in my top three? Which'll you know?

1361
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: You're rising your Sun and moon? Like, yeah, I know

1362
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: all I ask the Mars and this and the space.

1363
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 3: You know, that's cool. Three is how I live this.

1364
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: I always show up. I'm an Aquarius aquarious Gemini. Okay, okay, right, right, right, okay,

1365
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: so right, so so I'm a Gemini moon aquarius, rising

1366
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 3: a quaria sun. Right, So when a woman deals with me,

1367
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 3: if she understands how the elements work, the air right, Okay,

1368
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: this dude is all air right, so peace for him.

1369
01:07:50,480 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: Made to give that nigga space right, space right, he's spacey.

1370
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: Right, He's a space cadet right. So now she already

1371
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: comes knowing Okay, this brother.

1372
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 6: Is literally like buy a nigga.

1373
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm out no.

1374
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: No, because well, okay, well when the when the when

1375
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 3: the courageous woman appears, not the play play right, I

1376
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: got it? Anybody can't right. Space is dance. Space is

1377
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 3: the place you may not survive it, but the ones

1378
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 3: that are courageous to step forward you okay, this this

1379
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: I gave myself an example. He's a triple as sign

1380
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: and he has all these elements space. So if I

1381
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: give him his space to be right, and I observed

1382
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 3: that without feeling that, oh, because he has his space,

1383
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: you know, whatever may come up for women, and then

1384
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: well whatever they may come up, you know, oh you

1385
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: know is he doing this? Is that nothing that happened?

1386
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: You just transcend and say you don't wanna support him

1387
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 3: giving space that that's a sense of peace. So now

1388
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: what happens is I know that you have that consideration

1389
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: for me, right, and my commitment to you and my

1390
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 3: interest in you is even more engaged.

1391
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: Because you're providing something for me that right.

1392
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: Right, right right? So look, yeah, now I made like

1393
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 3: like to the whole men in the hierarchy with the economics. Y, Okay,

1394
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 3: I may have this and that and that money, all

1395
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: of that, but I don't have the in that competitive realm.

1396
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm not giving me you that piece. I have to

1397
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 3: be in a different space right with you. Man, You know,

1398
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: this woman is just considering the fact that I'm just

1399
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: I'm all over the place. She's not really tripping. Our

1400
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 3: time together is really powerful and so what it makes

1401
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: me make efforts. Okay, let's say she's a water sign.

1402
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: So now wow, this water, you know, really gives me

1403
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: a consideration.

1404
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 2: What's water?

1405
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,759
Speaker 3: They flow? You know, water flows smooth, it can get rough. Okay,

1406
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 3: she may be in her like a tsunami moment right now,

1407
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 3: maybe not triping, judge, let me let it rise and

1408
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: let it let her fall until she gets back to hook.

1409
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 7: Right.

1410
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: So, considering the element you do, you may be a

1411
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: fire in dealing with earth. Right when you all are

1412
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 3: hot and bad. You can burn up the earth. Squatch

1413
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: the earth right, the earth can overcome the fire. So

1414
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: finding out the elements you're dealing with, you know, I

1415
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,440
Speaker 3: think kind of takes us out of the traditional perspectives

1416
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: of the maskul and feminine. They say, you know what,

1417
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: let me just deal with the elements. I did, and

1418
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm said, I only said that with it because it

1419
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 3: gets us out of the whole you come. You know,

1420
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 3: It's like it's like I have my hurt, you have

1421
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: your hurt, but now I'm perceiving you this way based

1422
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: upon my hurt.

1423
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: Right upon the les.

1424
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: But if I look at it from an elemental perspective,

1425
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 3: what I'm doing I'm giving grace for myself for you

1426
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: because I'm like, okay, this is if you have two

1427
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: water signs, y'all can y'all can constantly dride each other

1428
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: because y'all are deep.

1429
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: But also you.

1430
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 3: Said, wait a minute, with two water signs, what is

1431
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 3: what is this attribute?

1432
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: We have depth?

1433
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 6: Right?

1434
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: So you don't I tell you that earlier.

1435
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 4: Sometimes I just want to play in the kiddi pool.

1436
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,520
Speaker 4: But god damn, I'm dating a scorpio and I'm a scorpio.

1437
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: Right, So the power for the power between them is

1438
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: that they have death right. So that means no matter

1439
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: what they go through, they have such a death to them.

1440
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: They can actually maneuver the water because they're already in

1441
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: the element of flowing. They just get you know how.

1442
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes if I love like watching ocean things,

1443
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 3: and sometimes like the oxygen, bubbles may come and it

1444
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: pockets and then it blows. That can look like for

1445
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: a water signs working together. You know, the bubbles can

1446
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: get caught up in that in that perspective and realize, wait, manute,

1447
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: were water. We can move all around this, We can

1448
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 3: actually let that go. We can, right, so I think

1449
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: remembering so remembering what is the anchor brings it back

1450
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: to the residents of the relationship or the connection.

1451
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: The connection, not just this basic blanket of mask.

1452
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, because see what we have done. The

1453
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: pain has scorched the principles. We no longer hold value

1454
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 3: in masculine and infeminine. We have weaponized the masculine infant

1455
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: divine just to keep us from leaving our goddamn mind.

1456
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: Divine, masculine, divine.

1457
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: But man, right, right, but but but for the most part, no,

1458
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 3: we we have been in a war posture for so long,

1459
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 3: and some of us unfortunately been in war postures since

1460
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 3: rape molestation on both sides. We know that women unfortunately

1461
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: have been disrespected, but then the men.

1462
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Never talk about it, so that that festers.

1463
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: And then some of the street brothers, you know that

1464
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: in and out of the penitentiary, they don't talk about

1465
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: the experiences. Right, So all of this this built up

1466
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: scorching weaponization in the pockets and the heart pockets of

1467
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: our brothers, the the the rape of molestation, and the

1468
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: disrespect of our women.

1469
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: That that's about the time.

1470
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 3: We get to each other. We don't even need to

1471
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: you don't even know you know what. We may need

1472
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: to go on to talk fast. We don't need not

1473
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 3: have to say nothing. We may just need to write

1474
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: notes and hug each other.

1475
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: Let's hug.

1476
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: That's it, just hug?

1477
01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: Is it?

1478
01:12:59,479 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 7: Is it?

1479
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: Time? Were a hug?

1480
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: Hug in a hole?

1481
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: Because because the talk that we have, we we have

1482
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 3: we have gotten so low in the relation of each other.

1483
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 3: With everything we say, we're ready to pop off on

1484
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 3: each other everything everything, how we said it, how we

1485
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: said it like this, we didn't say enough of it,

1486
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: and so we're so weaponized that we need to.

1487
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: That's why I said we need to take a tactical pause.

1488
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: It's like we got to go back to basics, the

1489
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: basic elements, writing.

1490
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: The elements writing, hugging, hugging, look and look and hugging right,

1491
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: and then ready beholding. See when you hold the.

1492
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: Hug, that's what it really like.

1493
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the hug that leads into

1494
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: the the other thing. I'm just saying like that you

1495
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 3: know that when you when you the hug is like

1496
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 3: it meant it meant you need it. But then the

1497
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 3: whole is like I understand. We say, it's like the understanding,

1498
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 3: like I understand, I understand why you need this. I

1499
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: understand why I need.

1500
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: This, even I don't understand, and to provide something for you.

1501
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: And I'm going to be and I'm going to be here.

1502
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 3: I'm going to be here.

1503
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: I don't understand.

1504
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 4: I think it also, Yeah, maybe you don't understand, but

1505
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 4: what we do understand we're human. And then like as

1506
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 4: we have that heart to heart connection, all that other

1507
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 4: ship melts.

1508
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: Away with disarmed. Yeah, as soon as you touch someone,

1509
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: even if you don't, like if you're not happy, or

1510
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: if I can literally feel the walls breaking down all

1511
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes Orlando's like we're in an argument. He's like, touch me,

1512
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: come over here, and I'm like, I'll literally be like,

1513
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And He'll like come here.

1514
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: And I can literally feel boom boom boom boom boom

1515
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: boom boom. As soon as I like, oh, as soon

1516
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: as I really like sit in it, the whole hold immediately.

1517
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: I can feel my soul move closer to his. I

1518
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: can feel my heart, I can feel it touched. I

1519
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: can physically because I'm in tune with my nervous system,

1520
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: in tune with my body, because I can identify shit

1521
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: that comes up in my body because I've practiced it.

1522
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: When I am an opposed opposition of someone, particularly my lover,

1523
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: and I he holds me. I can feel my heart,

1524
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: I can feel that the armor zip down. I can

1525
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: feel like the little girl and me be like, Okay,

1526
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: you know it's fine.

1527
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 3: Well on good moms. Today, We're going to bring back

1528
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 3: the hug and hug and hold family. I'm telling you, brothers,

1529
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 3: and not the Robin tug. Let's get out these comments,

1530
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 3: get into your situation and hug and hold like for real,

1531
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 3: like and for those that are not in the relationship

1532
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: right now right and and you preparing one day to

1533
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 3: get into relationship, know that you need that and that,

1534
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: and it's okay to have that. You know, it's it's

1535
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 3: not it's not you're not strange, you're not weird because

1536
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 3: you need that, you know, because most of us have

1537
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 3: not been necessarily h in hell for a long time

1538
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 3: and maybe no time, because if you come from different

1539
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 3: family dynamics, Famili's out here moving and shaking, right. They

1540
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 3: like their love. Like my grandma's love was she had

1541
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 3: a lot of properties, so to make sure that family

1542
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: we had stuff like okay, you can be here, you

1543
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: could be here. But she wasn't necessarily a hug and

1544
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:18,879
Speaker 3: holding grandmother.

1545
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: A lot of older the older generation, especially to black people.

1546
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: My dad tells me this all the time. He's like,

1547
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: the older generation was not wasn't verbally saying I love

1548
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: you often, and there wasn't a lot of physical touch.

1549
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: It was just the way I don't know what with

1550
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: war being black, I don't know, but their lavery, slavery,

1551
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of trauma that were existing

1552
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: in that. I don't think that we recognize how our

1553
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: parents have adopted it and how we've adopted it. And

1554
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: that's why love is so revolutionary when you can when

1555
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: you can really hug and hold and feel somebody. At

1556
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, is humans, man or female.

1557
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 1: We all just want to be loved, safe and love.

1558
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1559
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 3: There were times and various relationships where I literally when

1560
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 3: the when when I felt the argument would come in

1561
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 3: the I'll stop because Quarius, we can detach anyway right

1562
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 3: real quick. But what I did was what I did

1563
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 3: was right. I went into my quiet attachment space and

1564
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: I immediately grabbed and breathed and sent it.

1565
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 6: Grabbed yourself.

1566
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 11: No, no, my part, because you know you can because

1567
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 11: I could, Yeah, I know I could attach, or I

1568
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 11: could just over intellectualize it in the argument, you know,

1569
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 11: and this is not helping me or her, right, So

1570
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 11: what I what I would be in practice of doing

1571
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 11: if we would get into that space instead of trying

1572
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 11: to over intellectualize it to her or shut down, initiate,

1573
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 11: I would initiate it and immediately.

1574
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 3: Like you just described, you know, with your husband, she

1575
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 3: just would. It was like the like the sink, like

1576
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 3: you saing about to breathe, and we just breathed together

1577
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 3: and the sink we synced up and we just let

1578
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 3: it go. And so when we finally emerged from the

1579
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: hug and hold, the way we spoke to each other,

1580
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, it was just heightened. You know, it's it's

1581
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 3: like it's like, you know, people talk a lot about

1582
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 3: the nervous system online, right, and the nervous universe is

1583
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: nervous system. It was like it was a nervous system reset.

1584
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: And so we we our pain bodies have conditioned us

1585
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: to immedia, go to challenge and confrontation of war because

1586
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 3: the mascul and feminine in these times have been weaponized.

1587
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: But I said, you said love is revolutionary. It is.

1588
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: And if we could in times where we normally would

1589
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: just buck up on our partners or be sarcastic or

1590
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 3: shut down, I would say, reach for that hug and

1591
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: hold trust family. It would re calibrate.

1592
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: The energy enough and and like shout out to you,

1593
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: Shout out to Orlando, all the heals signs and the

1594
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: airs and the aquariuses, because on some real shit, I

1595
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: did not recognize, you know, like I didn't recognize how

1596
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: much I needed that until I was experiencing a man

1597
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: that could do it. I am not the one who

1598
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: initiated that I would buck up, because that is what

1599
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm trained to do. I'm trying to protect myself. But

1600
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: when you find a man, and a lot of times

1601
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be, but when it is the

1602
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: masculine that can pause and reframe and hold the feminine

1603
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: because we can be. We're emotional. So when you can

1604
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: like hold it and protect it in a ways that

1605
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: you're fine. You could chill out, stop, you're safe. Herlanda

1606
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: literally told me where are you right now? Come back here?

1607
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: Or do you feel safe with me? Where are you

1608
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: come back here? Like that basic statement, because I was

1609
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: somewhere else. My mechanism is to leave my body. I'm

1610
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: done here. And when he said, hey bitch, come back,

1611
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: not hey bitch, but that's our love language, Hey bitch

1612
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: come back, you know, like then I had to look

1613
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: at myself and I had to look at my pain mechanisms.

1614
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: I had to look at how I've protected myself, and

1615
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: I had to observe that this is not that right.

1616
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of women, we've been so

1617
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: seldomly given the opportunity to experience a safe environment that

1618
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to feel safe in doing that. So

1619
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: when you do find a man, or you have a

1620
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: man that can initiate those hug and holds and those

1621
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: moments where they can disarm you, you have to be

1622
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: it's literally reprogramming yourself. And I am two months married,

1623
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 1: but literally we've been in a relationship for five years

1624
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: and it's still something I'm in practice in. It's still

1625
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: something like every time I want to go this way,

1626
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: I have to I have to really really actively try

1627
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: to put intention.

1628
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: No no, no, you said it, you did even try.

1629
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 3: You said it is a practice.

1630
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: It is a practice.

1631
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: That how glorious it is to recognize that you have

1632
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 3: a practice with your husband sounds very elegant, right, No,

1633
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 3: a practice, that's if we practice is what part of discipline? Right,

1634
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: So you do your discipline practice daily, you get more

1635
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 3: proficient at what you're focusing on. So so when we

1636
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 3: treat our relationships as an extensions of our practice, that's

1637
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 3: what we said earlier, said expand you know, like like

1638
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 3: we don't we can we just have to figure out

1639
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: not leaving each other, but how do we expand?

1640
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: And it's uncomfortable, like.

1641
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 3: Like we may abandon our partner in that moment of

1642
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 3: just feeling like we're not heard or we're not being felt.

1643
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 3: But how could we possibly expand that?

1644
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: Reroute?

1645
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: Reroute.

1646
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: I'll usually do this, but if I reroute this way,

1647
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: then I can maybe get to this other outcome, this

1648
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 1: other destination if I choose to, Hey, sirist destination.

1649
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 3: We wrote me back to my practice.

1650
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: Yes, come on, and you have to be committed to

1651
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: doing that. And a lot of times I'm like, well, shit,

1652
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm not going anywhere. I love you. I

1653
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: have to ask sometimes in those moments where I want

1654
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: to go left and I need to go right, I said, bitch,

1655
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: are you leaving them? No? You ain't.

1656
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: How are we going to drag this out?

1657
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's like, do you

1658
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 1: still love them? Yeah? People are going to fuck up humans.

1659
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: We are human. We are going to be imperfect. The

1660
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: person you love is going to hurt you. It's just

1661
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: the part of the programming. They are not going to

1662
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: do everything right, and the sooner you can realize this

1663
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: person is just We're just humans attempting to learn how

1664
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: to love each other. While we are learning how to

1665
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: love ourselves, a lot of us haven't even been given

1666
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: the platform and say, actually, I want to be loved

1667
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: like this, Actually, this is what I need. We're so

1668
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: busy being Another thing is when you go to that

1669
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: defense system, you don't even find the tools to say,

1670
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 1: what do I need in this moment to be soothed?

1671
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: What am I actually asking for? You don't even know.

1672
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: You're just fighting to you just throwing just to be protected.

1673
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: But actually, if you stop and you take a moment,

1674
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: it's like, actually I need you to say this, Actually

1675
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: I need you to But a lot of times we

1676
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: are fighting without cause we don't even know exactly what

1677
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: it is that we're asking you.

1678
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 4: I think some people don't know what they need exactly well,

1679
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: because you like, they don't even know what they need

1680
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 4: to be soothed.

1681
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: So I ask, I invite you to hug and to

1682
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: hold and then to pause and ask yourself what am

1683
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: I requesting in this moment? What do I need? And

1684
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: then request that because I think a lot of times

1685
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: we are arguing not even knowing what we're asking for.

1686
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: What you're both said is the word no. Right, So

1687
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: that's that's the that's the equation.

1688
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1689
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 3: Most times we can come into each other's pathway not

1690
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: fully being fully explored. We may have we may have

1691
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: many experiences, but we may not really be fully explored

1692
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 3: in ourselves. Right. You may have a lot of experiences,

1693
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 3: but do you really know yourself. You've just been moving

1694
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 3: and grooving. You know you got you got. You can

1695
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: recite it and throw it back, but you ain't really

1696
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 3: know right because you said why right, the why right?

1697
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 3: So everything that you would like to know is within you, right.

1698
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 3: And and I feel that in this moment I want

1699
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: to give a grace to the listener to say it's

1700
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 3: okay to journey to the dark spaces in places you

1701
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 3: must return back to that space so you could present

1702
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: to your younger self, younger version self that you got

1703
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 3: it right now, that you're not where you were and

1704
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 3: it's okay. And this is for both men and women,

1705
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, because the more we can explore that as

1706
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: light beings to splow out on darkness, by the time

1707
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: we are able to interact with each other, you know,

1708
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 3: we can be in an expansive place like holding space,

1709
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 3: to know that we're not trying to be perfect together,

1710
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: but we're we're figuring this thing out, we're working working

1711
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 3: through Right, the more we could have that capacity to

1712
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: journey within ourselves, that that unspoken space. When we see

1713
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 3: it in our partners, we won't be triggered. You won't

1714
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: be bothered.

1715
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Well, well, we'll know actually what the trigger is. This

1716
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: actually has nothing to do with you. This actually has

1717
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: to do with my dad and that he left a lot.

1718
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: And now you're not choosing me. And I'm triggered by

1719
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: this because I this is something that I'm that's that's

1720
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: like replicating something that I've been through a long time ago, and.

1721
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: Now that you have, in this moment, shared that with me,

1722
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: this insight has expanded me.

1723
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: And now I can recognize where this is something that's

1724
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna move you differently than what I thought. And I

1725
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: can hold you and say I'm never leaving you and

1726
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that.

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01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 3: And I can affirm to you that I will hold

1728
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 3: and hold and confirm.

1729
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: You as well, because because we're agreeing to understand.

1730
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 3: And I see you see, and I love you, and

1731
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: I love you, and let's hug and hold.

1732
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: Hug and hold, hug hold.

1733
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if the hugging hold is in your book,

1734
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 4: but I would like you might need to added a

1735
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 4: bonus page.

1736
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want to know more.

1737
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 4: About your book before we get out of here too,

1738
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 4: because I know that you are re releasing the book

1739
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: with additional pages.

1740
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I've been blessed to uh with my mother,

1741
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: Queen of four, we have expanded manhild iyself right, So

1742
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 3: I've vote additional one hundred and sixty pages for brothers

1743
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: to give them additional tools basically around the principles of

1744
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 3: what we've been talking about today. Care care for yourself.

1745
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: You know, if you do not care for yourself, then

1746
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 3: you move careless, right, and then so you handle other

1747
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 3: people the way you move right. So encouraging our men,

1748
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: our brothers, to begin to make that excess within himself

1749
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 3: and facing that that wounded child and strengthening him up,

1750
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 3: you know, hugging and holding his own his own accountability

1751
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: to self correct, you know, and not necessarily projected to

1752
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 3: his women or his children or anybody outside, but really

1753
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,879
Speaker 3: self correct himself. That's the spirit of Manhial byself.

1754
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1755
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: It's a call to be wellness warriors. I say, brothers,

1756
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 3: you want to fight for the best quality of your life, body, mind,

1757
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 3: and spirit, So you have to be a warrior for

1758
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 3: your own wellness, you know, and we put that aside

1759
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 3: because we have to hustle. We have to get this

1760
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 3: and get that. But the moment that wellness or that

1761
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:50,799
Speaker 3: health is compromised, everything attached to us is compromised. Right,

1762
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 3: So we must first be what warriors for our own wellness,

1763
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 3: fight for the best quality of your life. And if

1764
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 3: you can show up for that version of yourself right,

1765
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 3: no matter how it looks, a matter of way you

1766
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 3: may be on your healing journey, but you show up

1767
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 3: for yourself like that, you can show up better in

1768
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: your relationships and how you show up for your children

1769
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,440
Speaker 3: and your women and your work in the world.

1770
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: And change your family cycle.

1771
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

1772
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm curious to know, like what like because I think

1773
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 4: like some of our young kings really need to like

1774
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 4: read something like this right like early, not like post

1775
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 4: all the things. How like what what age would you

1776
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 4: recommend someone to read your book?

1777
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like, if you had a son, you

1778
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: would give it to him at what age?

1779
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 6: Well?

1780
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: Right, you know the way I expanded it, I have

1781
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 3: so much additional tools here that you you know, as

1782
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 3: soon as possible, just because you want him to be

1783
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: shaping the concept of we have the concept in here

1784
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: called the supreme man of octimum wellness.

1785
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: So you have a little give.

1786
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 3: A young man is five eight nine ten and he

1787
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 3: sees that affirmation, supreme man of octimum wellness right right.

1788
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I could just see him right right right right right

1789
01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: right right right right.

1790
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 3: And so so now he's like, you know what, hey,

1791
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 3: dad or monm, what do I have to do yet?

1792
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: The concept? Right, what do I have to do?

1793
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:05,959
Speaker 6: The superpower?

1794
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: And in the superpower, the whole point of being a

1795
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 3: supreme man of wellness is taking yourself daily through those

1796
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 3: accountability protocols to better yourself.

1797
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: That's it.

1798
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 3: And you do that over a matter of time. Right,

1799
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 3: So a young man's observing that and he's saying, wow,

1800
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: like that succeeded him. Now he may go through a

1801
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: whole another life up until that point where he may

1802
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: be challenged. You know, he may have to go through

1803
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 3: some low realms or some other stuff. I mean, my

1804
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 3: mother was queening for but I had I went through.

1805
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 3: I was in the streets, hard body, you know, that

1806
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 3: had to go through that rice of passage on what

1807
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 3: was lost my life in that dynamic and from that

1808
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 3: survival I got aware of myself, right, and knowing why

1809
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 3: I'm here and one of the things I'm doing, so

1810
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 3: I started the value even the seeds that were planted

1811
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: for my mother.

1812
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 7: Right.

1813
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 3: So the same concept in Manhill thyself is it doesn't

1814
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: matter what stage from a young man, because the old

1815
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 3: man is still the young man. And that's and you know,

1816
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 3: a lot of problems that we see in the world

1817
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 3: is the older man living out the wound and the

1818
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 3: disappointment of the young man.

1819
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 7: Right.

1820
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 3: So, now I got the money, Now I got the power,

1821
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 3: Now I got to shine, right. So what I'm gonna do,

1822
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pay them that they're gonna see me.

1823
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 7: Right.

1824
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 3: So now now your blessing becomes a dagger. You're blessing

1825
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 3: becomes something that you know, that is that is weaponized,

1826
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 3: and you can't even you can even be peace in

1827
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 3: your blessing. You can't even say wow, man, I think

1828
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 3: the most I think the ancestors forgetting me here. You

1829
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: can't wait to show I can't wait to go back

1830
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 3: and stunt on them. I can't wait to go show her.

1831
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 3: So now all you're doing now is you going on

1832
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 3: a weaponized tour and you're blessing damn. Right, And so

1833
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: now well, look, so if God forbid, if you ever

1834
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 3: lose this blessing, you're gonna really be jacked up down right.

1835
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 3: So it's really changing the concepts around abundance, around the

1836
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 3: responsibility of like we have. The first chapter is called

1837
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 3: the the Family of Unity and Wealth, right, the family

1838
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Man of unity and wealth. So his whole thing is,

1839
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 3: you know, I'm working on myself so I can be

1840
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: a better service for my family. Right, the more I

1841
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: can figure out how to be effective within myself, I

1842
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 3: can bring the tenants to my children and to my

1843
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: women and support her and support my relatives and support.

1844
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 6: When you say support, that is that financial or is that.

1845
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: It's how you show up?

1846
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,480
Speaker 3: You know, so we tend to you know, men unfortunately

1847
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 3: in the material world, has been relegated just to that

1848
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 3: man provide ram provision. But and this is the whole

1849
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 3: thing about men's doing his healing, right, because the more

1850
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 3: you can know your no man know thyself, you heal yourself.

1851
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 3: Now you can actually show up in other versions of

1852
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 3: yourself to people that you have not have not even

1853
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 3: known that you have so much more to contribute, that

1854
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 3: there's so many more abundant men, Like there's a lot

1855
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: of men that women have had in their journey that

1856
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 3: you probably have not been able to fully be expressing

1857
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 3: their full selves because they've been only living from a

1858
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 3: certain version of themselves, you know, and maybe sometimes they

1859
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 3: may have been relegated to pain and hate or just misdirection, right,

1860
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 3: And so he has not been fully expressed.

1861
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: So if you get a man that is fully.

1862
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 3: In his expression, you know, no limitations knowing who he is,

1863
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 3: his presence and his attention bring value extended beyond his

1864
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: provision his material provision.

1865
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1866
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 3: But a man can't even understand that side of him

1867
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: besides being someone that provides, if he doesn't really begin

1868
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 3: to do the inner work, right. And so that's what

1869
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 3: want to encourage men. It's like your life doesn't end

1870
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: in provision, right It. Provision is an attribute that is

1871
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 3: a powerful attribute, but there's so much more if you're

1872
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: open and willing and when you're ready to explore in

1873
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 3: your own self that you can bring not only to

1874
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 3: yourself but to others in your life.

1875
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 1: Don't reduce men. It's solely like money.

1876
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 6: I think unfortunately, I think a lot of I.

1877
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Mean, it's important obviously, we live in the three D world,

1878
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: you know, we're living in the world. But I think that,

1879
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: like you said, it's a product of just working on

1880
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: all of the things overall.

1881
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 4: I just think I think a lot of I think

1882
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 4: a lot of women have accepted men with very little.

1883
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 4: I think it's also it's men actually that have the

1884
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 4: hardest time and quote I mean, I could be wrong,

1885
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 4: but like like being able to feel fully I guess

1886
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't even want to say masculine, but like in

1887
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: his full expression, if he doesn't have that financial piece

1888
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,879
Speaker 4: figured out, like, it begins to trickle down and impact

1889
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 4: other ways because male equals provision. It's in the Bible

1890
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 4: and that you know, it's that that idea has expanded

1891
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 4: as society and modern society has expanded, and you know,

1892
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,839
Speaker 4: our ideas of money and wealth of different capitalism have changed.

1893
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 4: But you know, I see it a lot. I see

1894
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 4: it a lot with men that struggle, even the best

1895
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 4: of men that have struggled because that piece isn't figured

1896
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 4: out and it starts to try go down and affect

1897
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 4: other parts.

1898
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, well, again, the concept is to be a

1899
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 3: holistic man, right, a body mind spirit, So you know,

1900
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: when you are your physical expression reflection, your mental expression reflection,

1901
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 3: spiritual expressions. When you can figure out how to balance

1902
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 3: those things and nourish those parts of you, everything spans right,

1903
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 3: so there may be times. You know, a man has

1904
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: times when he's up, he has times when he's down right,

1905
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 3: So it's if you can figure.

1906
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Out how to navigate that, that's when you.

1907
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 3: Become a powerful man, right, when you can figure out

1908
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 3: how to be resilient through your ups and downs. The

1909
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,719
Speaker 3: thing is how when you get when you are blessed

1910
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 3: and you have your material side, do not be unattentive

1911
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 3: to the other areas of itself. Like the arrogance of

1912
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 3: now I finally got here. What happens a lot of times.

1913
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,440
Speaker 6: In a minute of devotion.

1914
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: We got right, but when we didn't look, when we

1915
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: didn't have the material, we did everything devoted in ourselves

1916
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: so we could get that. So we said, we did

1917
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 3: our prayers, we woke up up, we did our fast

1918
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 3: and we know we ate better. We did our physical

1919
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 3: fitness because we had a goal in mind, so we

1920
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: get the A lot of times those goals is material.

1921
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 3: To your point, we get the material goal and then

1922
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 3: you abandon everything else. But then you realize the block

1923
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 3: could just start popping up. Right, because it was all

1924
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 3: about you starting wherever you started to become whole, holistic

1925
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: vision of yourself. So that's that that's the whole concept

1926
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 3: of man heal byself is for man beginning to reintegrate

1927
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 3: what a whole living looks like for himself and how

1928
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 3: I can show up for himself and his family.

1929
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: That's that's that makes a lot of sense. Do you

1930
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: with that being said, do you have any affirmations to

1931
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: give to our audience?

1932
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 2: A lot of affirmations.

1933
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 3: Might as well just go, I go. I'll go here

1934
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: because we have we have some good ones that I

1935
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: think you would. Okay, we'll do. We're here.

1936
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 2: I just opened it up.

1937
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 1: Okay, the spirits sells.

1938
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, so let's repeat after me, Yes, sir,

1939
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,679
Speaker 3: all right. I am open to receive love and support

1940
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 3: from others, allowing myself to be vulnerable.

1941
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,799
Speaker 4: I am open to receiving love and support from others

1942
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 4: allowing myself to be vulnerable.

1943
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 3: I attract into my life positive and uplifting people who

1944
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 3: support my growth.

1945
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,679
Speaker 4: I attract into my life positive and uplifting people who

1946
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,879
Speaker 4: support my growth.

1947
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 3: I am connected to my inn wisdom.

1948
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I am connected to my inner wisdom.

1949
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 3: And making decisions that align with my highest self.

1950
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: And making decisions that align with my highest self.

1951
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 3: I release any self doubt.

1952
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 1: I release any self doubt, and embrace my greatness and

1953
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: embrace my greatness and unlimited potential and unlimited potential.

1954
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: I release any need for perfection.

1955
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 1: I release any need.

1956
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: For perfection, and embrace myself.

1957
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 1: And embrace myself as a work in progress, as a

1958
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: work in progress in.

1959
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: A divine being.

1960
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 12: I am a divine I am being, and my personal

1961
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 12: growth and my personal growth transformation. Transformation has a positive impact,

1962
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 12: has a positive impact on me in the world.

1963
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 6: Say I shay shame.

1964
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: You always bring us to church. Thank you every time.

1965
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I love when you come and talk

1966
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 1: that stuff. Thank you always. Let's pull a card.

1967
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 4: Now that we've cultivated and conjured all that energy, I

1968
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:33,839
Speaker 4: just pick a card.

1969
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 6: And let's see what the cards say.

1970
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 13: After today, you have the eight of Cups.

1971
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: Cups, I haven't seen I'm gonna say, I haven't seen that.

1972
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: The water, the night, nice, see the moon. No, Okay.

1973
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: When the Ada cup shows up in a tarot reading,

1974
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: you may feel compelled to walk away from a disappointing situation.

1975
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: It could mean turning your back on an unfulfilling relationship, job,

1976
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: career path, living arrangement, or creative project that once was

1977
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: a source of great happiness to you but now only

1978
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: brings you pain. You have invested yourself emotionally, but despite

1979
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: your best efforts, are disappointed it hasn't turned out the

1980
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: way you expected it to, and you realize that you

1981
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,719
Speaker 1: are no longer getting anything out of the situation. Now,

1982
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: the only choice is to put it behind you and

1983
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: move on with your life, even if it brings you

1984
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: sadness as you say goodbye. The aight of cup suggests

1985
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: you sense that something is missing, particularly on an emotional

1986
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: or spiritual level, and instead of waiting around for things

1987
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: to get better, you know you need to leave that

1988
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: unfulfilling situation. It may not make sense to others because

1989
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: on the face it looks as if you have everything

1990
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: you have wished for, but deep down you know it's

1991
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: not serving your highest good and it's time for you

1992
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: to let it go and move on. It can be

1993
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: a sign that you're trying to escape a problematic emotional

1994
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: situation or avoiding some major psychological issues and concerns. It

1995
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: represents emotional issues that remain real and present in your life,

1996
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: yet you're trying to pretend as if they no longer exist,

1997
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 1: refusing to deal with them. You may repress your emotions

1998
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: or refuse to open have the open conversation with others

1999
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,639
Speaker 1: and what's happening, instead preferring to pretend as if everything

2000
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: is okay, or avoiding the scene altogether.

2001
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I think I was going through that the

2002
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 3: last three weeks really, Yeah, Yeah, just just certain relationships,

2003
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: just family, like I said, family man, like some family members,

2004
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 3: just like I got clear.

2005
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's almost like.

2006
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 3: You have to go through some things for that clarity

2007
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 3: you no matter how many years you know somebody, you

2008
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 3: know them, you know them, you know them, and then

2009
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 3: life goes bang and then that and then you you're

2010
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 3: given that clarity and you can never you can never.

2011
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 3: It's like you can never return.

2012
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 6: To what you can.

2013
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 3: See, none of it, no matter what you do.

2014
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 2: Right.

2015
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 3: So, So to that point of just really that coming

2016
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 3: to the awareness that that, yeah, that last three weeks

2017
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: have been mine, that's how I see mine.

2018
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it kind of also speaks to

2019
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: like red flags in ways. I think a lot of

2020
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: times we know what those things are and we ignore them.

2021
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: And it's usually something in your gut, you know. And

2022
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be like a flaming red flag.

2023
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's light red, right, it's red all the same,

2024
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 1: but it's light red, it's pink.

2025
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 13: You know.

2026
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes it's like, you know, and the

2027
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: universe be universing, and it will remind you every time

2028
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: you can try and go this way and it doesn't work.

2029
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: This way doesn't work. This way doesn't work. It's like

2030
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: you have to honor what is, Yeah, And a lot

2031
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: of times that's honoring yourself and honoring your intuition and

2032
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: what you know. Yeah, I really want to hear your horri.

2033
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't even talking real deep, but I'm really trying

2034
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: to hear about super nov slam the horri.

2035
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 3: There's so much to share there, but let me.

2036
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 2: I will put it to.

2037
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 3: I will summarize it by sharing I was in a

2038
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 3: relationship many many years ago with the young lady that

2039
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 3: was a very sexually expressed woman, very mature, sexually expressed.

2040
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 1: Old, younger than you.

2041
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 3: She was a little younger than me, just a little bit,

2042
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 3: not not too much.

2043
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: And how old are you?

2044
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 3: I'm forty nine now, you know, when I was with her,

2045
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 3: I consider myself already a freak, you know, a super freak.

2046
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: But let me say it, not a regular freaks, super.

2047
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: Super but she but but but she was like Gemini.

2048
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 2: She was a Gemini.

2049
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 7: She was.

2050
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: Like, it's it's like a teacher becomes a student. Like

2051
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 3: literally she I didn't even understand the level the maturity

2052
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 3: she had in her sexual expression. It's one thing to

2053
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 3: just you know, be I think hoen and wilding. Now

2054
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 3: it's kind of fun. It has a kind of an

2055
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 3: innocence wildness to it.

2056
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: But she was she was real mature in like she like, yeah,

2057
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 1: something intentional with her sexual.

2058
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Very very very very intentional.

2059
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: Very she knew, how do you how do you utilize it?

2060
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't.

2061
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so so so there's some things I never experienced

2062
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:52,799
Speaker 3: with any girlfriend before her, Like so she'll just orchestraight stuff, right,

2063
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 3: you mean saying this out loud?

2064
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 2: My lord?

2065
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 3: Okay, So she'll just orches straight just what kind of

2066
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 3: like randomness she'll be like. She was like she's like,

2067
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 3: she was like, babe, you know you you've been working,

2068
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 3: you've been running this and that, and I wanted something

2069
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 3: special for you. I was like, I had to always

2070
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: try to figure out if I'm ready for her. Man.

2071
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 3: One day, man, she just told me to come to

2072
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 3: her space and she was like, just just relax here.

2073
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 3: She said, I'm just gonna, you know, put some some

2074
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 3: jazz music going for you and and and I'm I'm

2075
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: gonna blindfold you. I said, are you okay with that?

2076
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I said, okay, what's happening on? Just relax?

2077
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Just relax And then she and she had like four

2078
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 3: girls just come in.

2079
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Dad too.

2080
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 3: Right then she I'm blind me and I saw them

2081
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 3: because you know, just put these different hands rubbing on me.

2082
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 6: Oh, they're rubbing on you.

2083
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 3: And then she took the thing off and she and

2084
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 3: she says, she said, maybe you know you've been out here.

2085
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 3: This is for you. And then she left.

2086
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: She left me with no one.

2087
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 6: Read were you ready for her? For her orchestration?

2088
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 3: That was just one.

2089
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: That was one.

2090
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 3: But she left me with them and it did what

2091
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 3: it did. And then she finally came back. How long

2092
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 3: after a couple hours? Okay, right, and then she just

2093
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 3: rubbing on me and I'm kind of feeling a little

2094
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 3: weird because I'm like, this is this really happens. She said, baby,

2095
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 3: you can't. You want to make you check it, checking

2096
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: in on you. You Okay, how was your experience? Tell

2097
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 3: me about it?

2098
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 2: My mind, I never had.

2099
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 3: No like what kind of alien technology? Time for my

2100
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 3: birth what are my birthdays? She took me to some

2101
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 3: like eyes wise shut type mansion type stuff right place,

2102
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 3: and I was like, this feels like some eyes shut.

2103
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, you know, I was at

2104
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 3: dressed ton't be dressed up and had my little suit

2105
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 3: on and all of that, and I was like, you know,

2106
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 3: folks had.

2107
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 2: They had the mask and shop. I was like, what

2108
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 2: what the hell is this place?

2109
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 3: But it was it was high in sexy.

2110
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 7: It was.

2111
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 3: It wasn't ceed was real high end and you know,

2112
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 3: it wasn't on old secret society vibe, but it was.

2113
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 2: You could tell it had that law. But it was

2114
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 2: just something exclusive, exclusive in New York.

2115
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, very New York.

2116
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 7: Right.

2117
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: So it's like this.

2118
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Lounge every now, this is the whole whole thing planned.

2119
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 3: If you remember birthday, you know what I'm saying.

2120
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 2: The Sherman Champagne.

2121
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: It was a bunch of like couples. I said, this

2122
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 3: is like a couple type of places. I was kind

2123
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 3: of couples of here. She's like, yeah, you know, and

2124
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 3: everybody's nice couples to kick it and stuff like that.

2125
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: Dope bar I was a nigga. Nothing was, you know,

2126
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 3: not nothing.

2127
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: I said, this is an awesome fly couple.

2128
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Every rod and sexy right has their clothes on stuff.

2129
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 3: Right right, And now some people walking around with masks

2130
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 3: and stuff. But but they will walk past us because

2131
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 3: like an a lounge bar area, which is sexy. I thought,

2132
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 3: that's what is it.

2133
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 2: It was a curtain, a black curtain, and.

2134
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Every so often I would just see people with the

2135
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 3: mask just kind of disappeared, the curtain come back. And

2136
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 3: then I started seeing, you know, folks with robes and stuff.

2137
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 3: I said, what the hell is going I'm drinking my champagne,

2138
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 3: but I'm like, what the hell is going on over there?

2139
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 3: Then everybody's talking. We was talking and laughing and stuff.

2140
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 3: And then she said she wished me, said baby, you ready?

2141
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 3: I said, ready for what?

2142
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 2: She said?

2143
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 3: You ready? I want to take you somewhere. I said,

2144
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 3: take You're gonna take me where She's gonna take you there?

2145
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:45,839
Speaker 3: You will take me to the black curtains.

2146
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh m G.

2147
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 3: She grabbed me my hand, she walked me and I

2148
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 3: opened the black curtain and and everybody. I didn't even

2149
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 3: know that was many people. I didn't even know that.

2150
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there were that many people in there.

2151
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 3: It was just a lot of It was just a

2152
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 3: lot of bodies body And it was interesting because the

2153
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 3: way the acoustics was, you didn't even hear them, but

2154
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 3: the moment you opened the curtain, you heard everything. It

2155
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 3: was ill. You heard the moans and the screams. And

2156
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 3: so I'm just I'm just standing there clothing ship with

2157
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 3: my with my suit, my champag and my suit and

2158
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 3: everybody's and and this.

2159
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 2: She's like, hey, this is this? Is this a couple?

2160
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 3: She started bringing this some special couples, exclusive couples things,

2161
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 3: and that was my first time going to some wild exclusive. Yes,

2162
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: yeah I doubt that. So she yeah, so yeah, that

2163
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 3: that would that. I think that is a good story.

2164
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 6: That was like style, Yes, because why not my birthday?

2165
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Girl? How many times should go to the eye was?

2166
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Why didn't it work out? Where's she at now?

2167
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 3: She's married?

2168
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 5: You know?

2169
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 3: And I say, and I salute them? They doing really well?

2170
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: So cool?

2171
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were cool. We're cool, were cool.

2172
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, this is a good story

2173
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: because I think men sometimes are are afraid of the

2174
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: enchantress and the sexual energy of the woman. And but

2175
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: that is what we're supposed to do. That is like

2176
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: literally we are life for us.

2177
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 3: We bring children to get out the way like I

2178
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 3: couldn't because I think on the other side of like

2179
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 3: I said, me being a super freak at that time,

2180
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 3: it's something that the signal that I wore right so you.

2181
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 1: You I was that you are out super freaking me

2182
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: right right.

2183
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: So when you get a woman that is in her embodiment,

2184
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 3: it allows the man to fully just allow her to be,

2185
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 3: you know, just let her be that, you know what

2186
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 3: I mean, And and then now you space for her

2187
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 3: being that. Right, don't don't go. Don't go. If your

2188
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 3: ego and what you've been through and let trying to.

2189
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: Put that on her, it's gonna dim it or project negative.

2190
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 3: We'll have a closed down and she's not gonna share

2191
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 3: that side with you because it Maybe men may be

2192
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,720
Speaker 3: with women that are very much expressive like that, but

2193
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 3: depending upon the safety of the relationship, she may be

2194
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 3: loving him, but the safety relationship maybe have not opened

2195
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 3: her up to really get you know, take him to

2196
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 3: that place.

2197
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, making women safe, let's the freaks out.

2198
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 6: I need to find.

2199
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Do you like a woman feel safe? She will let

2200
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: the freaks lack.

2201
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 3: I would totally agree.

2202
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Men, if you respect women and you don't be on

2203
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: that internet ship and you let them be safe and

2204
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 1: they're intolistic embody embodyments, I guarantee you it unlocks freak levels.

2205
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.

2206
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 4: I'm jealous because I'm like sitting here really thinking about

2207
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 4: that because I'm like, because like I could, like that

2208
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 4: would bring me a lot of joy just because I'm

2209
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 4: a voyeur and I loved, like I enjoy watching my

2210
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 4: partner experience pleasure, and so I'm like, wow, that sounds

2211
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 4: great that.

2212
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, where does she source these bitches from? Where

2213
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: does she go? Where is she?

2214
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 6: Where does she find women that are going to be

2215
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 6: like yeah, no problem, be there girls?

2216
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 5: Right?

2217
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 3: It's interesting because.

2218
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 7: What I.

2219
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 1: Man like, I don't know, no, no, that was like

2220
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: I would never do it, no, no, So so it's.

2221
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 3: A network, right, So what I mean by this is

2222
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 3: that women like her, that I that she let me

2223
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 3: experience women like her it's a network of women that

2224
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 3: embody like her necessarily, not not her besties, like I

2225
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 3: never I was with her besties.

2226
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 4: Basically, I need to go make more friends at the

2227
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 4: sex parties, embody friends so that I can Well, I

2228
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 4: don't really know if I want my friends to funk

2229
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,520
Speaker 4: my man, but I do not your associates.

2230
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so so she yeah, so she. I'm

2231
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 3: like again, I wasn't aware of that world. You know,

2232
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 3: she she as a man, I had to trust it.

2233
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 3: It's okay for my woman to expose me to that

2234
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 3: side of of the of the freak that I wasn't

2235
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 3: necessarily exposed to.

2236
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: How did you feel about her after that experience? I

2237
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: want to know, you know, you know, you know, because

2238
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: I think women because me and I would be I

2239
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 1: would be triggered, I'd be gone for twelve minutes.

2240
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 3: And how did I feel about her?

2241
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: How did you? Yeah? Overall, were you like were you like,

2242
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was so that like that was

2243
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm forever indebted to you.

2244
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 2: I think that like, oh, me and hr we we

2245
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: went at it after that meet.

2246
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any man would not wait,

2247
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:43,879
Speaker 1: we heard no do the wrong thing, but they get sneaky.

2248
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 3: No that no again that you know.

2249
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 2: So sometimes you you know, that's what I'm saying.

2250
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 3: In any relationship, you have to have a place of

2251
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 3: expansion to really get to know each other, right, because

2252
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 3: if a woman is if a man's holding space and

2253
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 3: this woman's you know, felt safe to show these dynamics,

2254
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 3: then he's gonna learn so much more because she's now

2255
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 3: gonna take him to places he's never been vice versa. Right,

2256
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, both feeling safe to really

2257
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 3: bring that there. I think when at the time when I, like,

2258
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 3: before I got with her, I was single and I

2259
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 3: was wilding out right, and then I kind of was like, man,

2260
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 3: you know, I was wilding out so much, had so

2261
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 3: much options, just having so much fun where it was boring.

2262
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't boring because it was boring. It was more

2263
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 3: like I kind of wanted my person, you know, because

2264
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 3: I had too many persons, right, So it's like, you know,

2265
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 3: I kind of want my person. I want to do

2266
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: this with my person, right, yeah, yeah, you know, And

2267
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 3: so I was beginning to open that up. What would

2268
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 3: that look like? Who would that be attracting to to

2269
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 3: get that?

2270
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Like what type of so I was I would manifested

2271
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: I would.

2272
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 3: He manifested her. But she she was even more illing

2273
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 3: in me as far as how she would just show up.

2274
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 3: But her showing up confident in her out for woman self,

2275
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't as an alpha man. I didn't

2276
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 3: have to compete with that. I just allowed her to

2277
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 3: be And because of that, I trusted. She exposed me

2278
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 3: to so much different things that I didn't experience before,

2279
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 3: you know. But I was gonna say though after the

2280
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 3: Chicks left. Yeah, me and her, you know, we had

2281
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 3: passionate love and we did our thing and it just

2282
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 3: it just our dynamic at the time when we were partners.

2283
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 3: You just kept it just because she was into this

2284
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 3: word being worried and trying things and doing things.

2285
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 1: So it was just so fun.

2286
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 3: I didn't have to do with a lot of like

2287
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 3: I didn't have to. I was spreading myself out all

2288
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 3: over the place a little bit. But then with her,

2289
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 3: I didn't. I can be focused and.

2290
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: Experience right expanding pleasure and exploring and the freedom without

2291
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 1: it being so.

2292
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 3: She But she made it. She made it. She made

2293
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 3: that that kink that I had at the time, She

2294
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 3: made it safe for me to have it because that's

2295
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 3: what she was, right. But I had to first in myself,

2296
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 3: like I said, the man first half to identify yourself,

2297
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 3: had to find out where you at in your life

2298
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 3: and your development. So I had to checking myself. And

2299
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 3: because I was being honest with myself and I kind

2300
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 3: of slowed down from being more wild, I slowed down

2301
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 3: enough to attract someone that was in alignment right and

2302
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 3: all the way because I was moving when you were

2303
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 3: like this, you can't even tract what you.

2304
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: You didn't have to sacrifice one thing for another.

2305
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 3: No, No, I just I said, you get us a

2306
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 3: little noisy, let me kind of calm that down. So

2307
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 3: I was able to come down from the noise a

2308
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 3: little bit reflect and that reflection, I was able to

2309
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 3: track the partner at the time that matched it up

2310
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 3: and kind of outmatched me. And so a lot most

2311
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: of my wildest experiences that I've never really experienced before

2312
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 3: in that dynamic came from her. She was the one

2313
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 3: setting it up, right, Yeah, she did it.

2314
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: She was like, let's just do this, let's do that,

2315
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: but let's I was like, what is which is beautiful?

2316
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of men think that they

2317
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: when you settle down or get a relationship that you

2318
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: have to like hoe on the side to have certain experiences.

2319
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Like there's this weird ideas like you wife the girl.

2320
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 1: You wife the girl, but you fucked the hoes. But

2321
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: you can wife the hoe and have a honogamous relationship

2322
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 1: and like still have expansive sex and exploration within the

2323
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 1: unit and within the union. And you don't have to

2324
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: sacrifice your sexual exploration just because you're honing down on

2325
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: what not.

2326
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 3: Not neither one has to. So the interview continues into

2327
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 3: the union. See the the interview has to continue like

2328
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 3: the dating had. I have to continue to date you

2329
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 3: in the dynamic of this new ship. Right, So let's

2330
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 3: say you know we we we are with if I

2331
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 3: me and you have been dating, in order to really

2332
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 3: open it up, I have to date within dating you, right,

2333
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 3: because now that's the frame. See the freshness and the

2334
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 3: wholism both had that, both men and women.

2335
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 6: Had that in them.

2336
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 3: What happens is that it it clarifies itself the longer

2337
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 3: you go into the union. So you say, okay, this

2338
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 3: is our norm, but you can What I learned from

2339
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 3: her was that you can you can create whatever you

2340
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:00,839
Speaker 3: want with your partner.

2341
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 2: Right, you can.

2342
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 3: Your starting point could be your starting point, but now

2343
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 3: that you're here, you don't have to You don't have

2344
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 3: to erase your starting point or feel bad about it.

2345
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 3: You can say, yeah, you know what we You know,

2346
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 3: I would have shared a side of myself with you.

2347
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 3: Are you ready for so shorty?

2348
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 7: Right?

2349
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 3: She Initially I knew she was freaking like me, but

2350
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to extent so she would just

2351
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 3: But what I did was she made it well. I

2352
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 3: made it safe for her just to kind of constantly

2353
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 3: show up right, and more I made it safe for

2354
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 3: her the more she revealed another layer and I didn't

2355
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 3: judge it.

2356
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 2: I celebrated.

2357
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 3: I was like, this is kind of wild. I love

2358
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 3: this right, So I kept getting I was like her

2359
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 3: cheerleader of her peeling back her own onion. Yes you know,

2360
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 3: and as a result, as her man she did random

2361
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 3: without me wanting, like like when she set that up

2362
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 3: with with the four Chicks, I wasn't even thinking about

2363
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 3: no four chicks, why I would like like she was

2364
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 3: one of those girlfriends that I was so enamored with,

2365
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, we can go and do our

2366
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 3: voyal thing together. I even touching nobody just kind of

2367
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 3: just you know, appreciating stuff. So she would just do

2368
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 3: these random epic things that any epic man that loves

2369
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 3: women would love to experience. Right, But when your woman

2370
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 3: blesses it, that's.

2371
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 1: A whole no different novel.

2372
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 3: It really is, because because what happened to was, you know,

2373
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 3: what was doper than the four baddies was who she was.

2374
01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 2: I said, what who is you?

2375
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 3: Because I for that to be And then you come

2376
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 3: back and check on me?

2377
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Speaker 1: How you doing? How am I doing? Who are you?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 7: Like like it?

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Speaker 1: It made me.

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Speaker 3: Really That's why I said, to this day, I respect

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Speaker 3: like I slew her partner. I respect her because it

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01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 3: was like it was like the audacity to be your

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01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 3: true self, you know, allowed me to expand in my

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01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 3: own relationship with her and you to be your true

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01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 3: self and allowed me to be my true self, you know,

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01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 3: and it made me she was so freaky, it made

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Speaker 3: me be conservative.

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01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: Where I said, I knew I needed to hear this spired.

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01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 4: I'm inspired. I want to be more like her. Just

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Speaker 4: DM associates, DM me associate. If you want to get

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Speaker 4: on the audition list to be an associate. I'm looking

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01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 4: for a stable of safe women, that is safe women.

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: I need about four women who are not my.

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Speaker 4: Friends but could be my friends to bless my man anyway,

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Speaker 4: DM me associate.

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Speaker 1: In the email subject line. Just put associate a photo,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things about yourself my instagrams.

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Speaker 6: I watch air cut.

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Speaker 3: They coming.

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01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 1: Now all the enchantresses are gonna come for you.

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01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 3: Listen, I tell the chantress as they come, Listen. I

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01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 3: am committed to my life path, right, so when I

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01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 3: when I locked into my commitment to my life path,

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01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 3: it's easy to deal with women because now the women

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01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 3: become a compliment Like I can compliment to she's doing.

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01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 2: You're confident what I'm doing.

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01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 3: The problem with men who are visionaries sometimes we get

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01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 3: guilt with being with dynamic women because we feel we

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01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 3: have to give up the life path in order to

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Speaker 3: deal with the dynamic woman.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that the more you commit to your

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01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 3: life path and and that becomes the focus, then the

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01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 3: women that you attract, you know, they start to they

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01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: come to you on that residence, they understand, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then therefore you could compliment with she where she's

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01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 3: That doesn't have to be like our life passes shouldn't

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01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,879
Speaker 3: distract us our partners partnership.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's important for your partner, whoever she is, yeah,

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01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 4: to be very clear about her own life path, right.

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01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you need space. According to the elements, this.

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Speaker 4: Man space, ladies, Okay, don't become and trying to be

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01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 4: needy over here with super won't. And now I'm over

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01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 4: here thinking about my man's top three and elements and

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01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 4: how he's actually a Gemini moon as well, and cancer

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01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 4: rising and Scorpio son like me.

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Speaker 3: Can't wow, Okay, So this so yeah, man, and he

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Speaker 3: is a lone.

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Speaker 1: Wolf he likes to be.

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Speaker 4: He also is a man of space. He's totally fine

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Speaker 4: and I am too, but him even more so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So so what the reading, the reading I have

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Speaker 3: for both of y'all is expand expand that's it, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Don't have you don't y'all, y'all are problem solve is

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Speaker 3: naturally just because of the dynamic, you know, because there's

2437
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Speaker 3: a side like let us say, if there's the bump inside,

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Speaker 3: that's the twin of the twins. When when the twins

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02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 3: the geminis aligned, that's the power of the Gemini. Like

2440
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Speaker 3: not necessarily the fact that they are twins when they

2441
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 3: actually act for it is one. So sometimes you may

2442
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Speaker 3: be dealing with the duality.

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Speaker 6: In that he's dealing with the fire because I'm sad, right, so.

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02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 3: He has to figure it out like so yeah, so

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02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 3: so one. So one twin may be confident in dealing

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Speaker 3: with you, and the other twin is kind of like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, how do I do with this element?

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02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,840
Speaker 3: You know? So him him on him under to have

2449
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:03,360
Speaker 3: that transference for him to okay, you know what, let

2450
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 3: me back up and allow her to just and then

2451
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 3: you allow allowing him to be expressive to you long

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02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 3: windedly and be okay, you know, and be okay.

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Speaker 6: I'd be okay.

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Speaker 4: It's just don't ask me a question about a question

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Speaker 4: you asked at the beginning of the fifteen minute.

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Speaker 6: Thing and expect me to remember I've you've already talked

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Speaker 6: about twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Other days a lot of weeds.

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Speaker 4: I'm high my son to Lowe might be a little

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Speaker 4: bit disintegrated, y'all from all that.

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Speaker 1: I told you you need to write notes.

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Speaker 3: Wait.

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Speaker 4: I tried to do that one time, and I think

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02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 4: it made me mad because he thought I was being

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Speaker 4: facetious and I wasn't. I was like, nigga, I need

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Speaker 4: to write now. Yeah, like I'm in law, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to. It's not like a great debate.

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02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:51,720
Speaker 4: I definitely don't want that. But sometimes I really do

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02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 4: feel like I need to write. I have noticed how

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02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:56,920
Speaker 4: I just feel more prepared in general and every way

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Speaker 4: if I can write something down first, or notes for

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02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 4: for listen and take notes. Because I actually did that

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Speaker 4: today in the meeting. I was like, you know what,

2474
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 4: let me take notes here because I'm going to need

2475
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 4: to come.

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02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 6: Back to this and historically I'll be forgetting shit.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So I think we should normalize having a pen

2479
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 4: and pad out during important conversations with your lover, because

2480
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 4: that's actually you do it in a business meeting, but

2481
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 4: very sparingly. Have you ever done it in relation with

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02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 4: the most important relationship, because sometimes like yeah, you get

2483
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 4: so fixated on the last thing said that you forgot

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02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:32,320
Speaker 4: what he said at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: That actually makes the last thing not so bad, you know.

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02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 1: So anyway, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We could take family right, well, we got another one

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02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 3: on good mom's notes. Let's become great note takers for

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Speaker 3: each other, even.

2490
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: If you have to physically write them down.

2491
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 6: Can hold take notes?

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02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:48,800
Speaker 3: Hug and hold take notes.

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02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 1: Come on, we have some good Ask yourself what is

2494
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: it that you need?

2495
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 3: Ask yourself? What is it that you need? Oh, don't

2496
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 3: be scared to go within and look in those dogs faces.

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02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 1: Yes that starts. And don't be afraid of the freaks.

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02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: Don't know, embrace the freaks and me associate.

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Speaker 6: Most importantly, I might not everyone. I'm sorry email.

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Speaker 1: I am very particular type four.

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Speaker 4: Actually because I'm not even gonna be there. Oh yeah,

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02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 4: it's not even about me. Wow, yeah, I can you

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02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 4: imagine it could be though. I feel a little frisky.

2504
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 4: I feel a little.

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Speaker 1: Your luncheon got it?

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Speaker 6: Oh my god. Anyway, thank you so much. Literally I

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Speaker 6: love having Oh.

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Speaker 2: So it was a blessed talking to y'all.

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Speaker 6: When is your book coming out?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: The book is released on sale six so June.

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Speaker 1: Sixty nine, Baby.

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Speaker 2: Got the Kids June June ninth, it would be.

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Speaker 3: It's available right now for the pre sale pre sale now.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's out through Random House. We we hear

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Speaker 3: man healed byself wilms war is you and your filth

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Speaker 3: master I like to do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all get your partner this book, Get your brother

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Speaker 4: this book, get your father. This is a great gift,

2520
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Speaker 4: no matter. You don't have to wait till Christmas. Just

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Speaker 4: surprise a man and let them know you're thinking of them,

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Speaker 4: and get them this book. Because more many spaces like this,

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Speaker 4: and you help hold beautiful in person space right for

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Speaker 4: men as well and online and in person, and you'd

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Speaker 4: be surprised how available the many in your life might.

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Speaker 1: Be for something like this.

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Speaker 2: So absolutely absolutely And where.

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Speaker 1: Can the people find you?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you can find me online. I'm on all all handles,

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Speaker 3: Supernova Slam s U P A and O v A

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Speaker 3: s L O M Supernova Slam across all handles, all platforms, platforms.

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Speaker 4: There we go great and we'll put all that in

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Speaker 4: we kind of know what we're doing over there. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I showed the guy who was denying therapy or not therapy,

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Speaker 4: I staring at the bar our merch.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, this is tight. Thank you man

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Speaker 1: it is tight. I've heard.

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Speaker 6: That's why I'm forget it tight bag.

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Speaker 1: But you can go on our website and check out

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Speaker 1: our merch.

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Speaker 4: You can join our Patreon, which is really our community

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Speaker 6: So if you got need some advice questions, you can

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Speaker 6: throw them in there.

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Speaker 1: If you need you needed opinions on your nudes, we're

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Speaker 1: over there doing that too. You know, sometimes we would

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Speaker 1: need to show somebody the nudes if there's no one eligible,

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Speaker 1: show them to your girl.

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Speaker 4: And that's a private channel just for the ladies. So

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Speaker 4: that's our Titty Tuesday auction. It's not called Titty Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we should rename the channel.

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Speaker 1: It's called Yoni xxx. There's a couple of things, and

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Speaker 1: there's Forry's. There's a bunch of shit.

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Speaker 4: patreon dot com backslash Good Mom's Bad Choices, and then check.

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Speaker 1: Out our retreats.

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Speaker 4: And we have a Mommy and Me retreat coming up

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Speaker 4: in July two that is maybe sold out by the

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Speaker 4: time this episode comes up, because we're pretty close to

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Speaker 4: being sold out, which I'm really excited about.

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Speaker 6: Make sure you.

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Speaker 1: Follow me at watch Erica DM associate and me Mila

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Speaker 1: underscore Math with two peas. I remember. This kind of

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Speaker 1: reminds me that time in Atlanta, except I'm in charge

2581
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Speaker 1: of my own. Okay, that wasn't a good idea. We've

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Speaker 1: had some bad gone some bad ways in person with this.

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Speaker 1: The word was unicorn, not associate. And I didn't tell

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Speaker 1: anybody to do it.

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Speaker 3: She did.

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Speaker 1: Oh bitch, you're not gonna keep you partic Okay, I

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02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 1: know that. I may I even started it. I started it,

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02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 1: you finished it. Okay, You're not gonna keep blaming me.

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Speaker 1: It's a little traumatic. But here we are to do

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Speaker 1: it again. Associated by you guys, love you bye.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm live it so good. Can't you tell I

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Speaker 5: went through a drought. That's until I find out well

2593
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Speaker 5: maym have been known earth? I used to be broken tail,

2594
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 5: now got the blues dancer like Beyonce Jasell throat shot

2595
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 5: on popping his car wearing our voices. Patriarchy kept it

2596
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 5: in the box to exploit it. Women put the pee

2597
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 5: and powers, so it's pointing that they want me to

2598
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:36,520
Speaker 5: be good.

2599
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 1: So I made bad choices. Bad mom, not a bad mom,

2600
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: but a bad mom. Ititter's in on put cannabis in

2601
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 1: their bath.

2602
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 5: Bon walked in bosses cap and I blew his cat

2603
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 5: ball tip dog. Now I'm immune to the cat called

2604
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 5: her being no. Waisted straight to it like a dollar sign. Mother,

2605
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:53,800
Speaker 5: rent the number when to It's like a water sign

2606
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 5: where you're renting winter essential will when the summer time.

2607
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: I do it all they know when I needs to

2608
02:07:58,440 --> 02:07:58,920
Speaker 1: Running by