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Speaker 3: It is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium, and I sound

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Speaker 3: a little weird.

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Speaker 4: It's a little echoe, little echoe.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's better.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 3: That's better that Matt's not here. Jules is in the booth,

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Speaker 3: so blame it on her. No, we're on air. She

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Speaker 3: just put the on air sign on. Ready to go.

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Speaker 3: All right, it is Alex, it's Paul, it's me do

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Speaker 3: some uh what's his name?

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Speaker 4: Evan?

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Speaker 3: Evan. O'll be bye later. We'll do the picks. So

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Speaker 3: we got a hurry. It's a big day. No no bye.

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Speaker 3: Any Another strong week, another strong week. Everybody finishing strong week.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a sign of the league doesn't have

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Speaker 3: the parody that it likes to have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably be a little bit of a truth to that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so we're talking Patriots. The bills are

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Speaker 3: coming up on Sunday at four twenty five, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be cold. What do we got got We have

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Speaker 4: We have coordinators today, and what do these guys have

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Speaker 4: to say? So Alex and I were there with with

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Speaker 4: of opined about Drake May's usage or lack thereof as

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Speaker 4: you know. Alex man Pelt sort of admitted, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: of these in a different way? And he said absolutely,

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Speaker 4: So I think the way we've all talked about this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and a VP brought up his time in Cleveland

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Speaker 4: Last year year. So Sean Watson, Yeah, I like him.

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Speaker 3: Well uh oh, well, so that that's you know, transparent

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Speaker 3: confirms like you said, what we were talking about. And

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Speaker 3: does it mean that, Okay, we're not going to see.

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Speaker 4: Just trying to get better, working on fundamentals. I think this,

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Speaker 4: Did you see anything like that, Alex?

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Speaker 4: they're coming in there every every day, they're working hard,

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Speaker 3: You know that. I am very proud.

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Speaker 4: Well, you were proud of Patricia in the train wreck

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Speaker 3: I assume that they're going to be outdoors today. It's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's supposed to get cold on Saturday. Here.

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Speaker 4: But you ever been to Buffalo, Alex, I have?

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Speaker 4: The greyest place on Earth. Yeah, definitely, just gray and

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Speaker 3: We were on the bus coming from the airport to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's dreary. It's dreary in many many ways.

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Speaker 3: So we should be happy, but we don't live there.

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Speaker 3: they got their football team right now, and the football

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Speaker 3: they definitely make the case. He's my m v P.

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Speaker 4: you who would you take? That's what they asked me

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Speaker 3: That was my that was it.

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Speaker 4: People around Josh Allen aren't that great either.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's got some good plays and that's why I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say that's that's pretty close. Lamar's

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Speaker 4: season has been ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: True, Yeah, But and Joe Burrow numbers wise has been.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow numbers wise is through the through the roof.

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Speaker 4: But he just hasn't translated to enough wins.

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Speaker 3: No again, is that his fault?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, what are the average they're averaging?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they play it.

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Speaker 3: They score a lot of points, you know, so like

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Speaker 3: he's doing his job.

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Speaker 4: Jim Murray took Burrow too, Mahomes Burrow, then Allen.

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Speaker 3: See I would take I would take Alan over Burrow

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Speaker 6: Is a little bit more fragile, and the record has

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Speaker 6: he can win m VP.

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Speaker 3: Burrow with the is not going to win m v P.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking about MVP.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's still I think a big gap for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it's it's Mahomes Allen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Josh is just too big and too Yeah, he

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Speaker 6: just looks indestructible out there sometimes.

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Speaker 3: The only thing about Lamar and Listen, I give all

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Speaker 3: I still don't think he's the type of passer, you know,

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Speaker 3: You justin Herbert Golf.

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Speaker 3: In terms of consistency and just like dependability, like he

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Speaker 6: Now for sure, you really can, and just the intangibles

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Speaker 3: About af what about NFC West Party? Stafford? Well, we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said Stafford.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You guys probably don't don't agree with me, but you

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Speaker 4: I mean, Daniels has been terrific. Jaden Daniels. I mean,

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Speaker 4: If we add another one to this quarterback class, I

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Speaker 3: Be you know, five, it could be historically good quarterback class.

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Speaker 3: You know, Drake May leading the way.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, what what you think he's been the best

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Speaker 3: I think he's got the highest potential. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Oh, you know you've tied a lot of conversations with Yeah,

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Speaker 4: John Football like you. Yeah, you don't think that Daniel

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Speaker 4: But I'm just wondering what you think makes him? Like,

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Speaker 3: Putting him down, I'm just putting May ahead.

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Speaker 4: You're insinuating that he's had a better year.

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Speaker 4: Now I would put I would put Drake May over

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Speaker 4: I think he's sort of Mac Jones. I'll ask, I

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Speaker 3: Say, I like, you know, I'm happy with him.

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Speaker 4: I love the Drake too, but I wanted to take

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Speaker 6: Already about like watching his son play sports and he

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it would be hard to pick one over the other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all. But I have I really have very

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Speaker 3: And so I am fine with it now. If you are,

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Speaker 3: what's that I live on the edge. If it happened

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Speaker 3: to make those mistakes. That's why I wanted to start in.

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Speaker 4: Week one, and we were lockstep on that.

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Speaker 3: We were.

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Speaker 4: That's why we don't argue that much this year, because

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Speaker 4: we genuinely agree a lot.

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Speaker 3: You would think, which is.

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Speaker 7: What's going on.

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Speaker 3: We argued more when the team was in the dynasty.

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Speaker 7: Now, you guys had to manufacture drama.

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Speaker 7: Everything was all sunshine and.

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Speaker 4: Fred could never figure out that Andy and I were

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Speaker 4: the second part of the dime. These were our arguments, sure,

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Speaker 4: they're pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think they're pretty good. Paul and Andy, they're not convinced,

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Speaker 3: Eight five five pats five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, TPX. Eight five to five pats five hundred

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Speaker 3: is the TPX hotline. And as we do that Deuce

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Speaker 3: is back from the locker room. Look who's back from

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Speaker 3: the locker room?

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Speaker 11: What was the mood where the player is friendly to that?

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Speaker 3: None of them look like Devin Henry.

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Speaker 1: Hey Mike, what was it like in the locker room?

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Speaker 3: Hay Like? What was it like in the locker room?

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Speaker 3: Hey Mike? What was it like?

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Speaker 4: Is it like you got means by Dan?

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Speaker 3: How does that work? Well?

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Speaker 8: You know, they often call me the lurker stand in

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Speaker 3: Today, I got the recorder with the hand on.

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Speaker 11: I didn't even have my record.

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Speaker 5: I was just kind of standing in the back in

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Speaker 12: My pockets even like this, and she already cooked a

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Speaker 4: Oh that's not that's not just that's all.

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Speaker 11: Just chill, guys.

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Speaker 7: That's the best mem your in is.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you have your recorder out or not,

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Speaker 8: Banana in the head like.

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Speaker 7: The bananas, his recorder, his mic.

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Speaker 5: It was really.

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Speaker 3: Cute that one.

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Speaker 7: I'll send it to you to.

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Speaker 3: Have dumb looks on my face, but it's kind of hard.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, just own the RBF.

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Speaker 8: Resting dude face something.

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Speaker 11: But uh some fun in there today, yucking it up?

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Speaker 7: Ye laughs in there today?

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Speaker 4: You there.

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Speaker 7: I very briefly was in there quick ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: So elusive check watch out Buffalo upset alert.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 11: Yes, can you turn your.

444
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Speaker 8: Okay, what my microphone?

445
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Speaker 3: Does it work? Now? Now I'm hearing an echo?

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the echo back.

447
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Speaker 3: We have some problems we got we have audio.

448
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Speaker 7: Sounds like a karaoke mic.

449
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Speaker 5: Now you hear me?

450
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Speaker 11: Now?

451
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Speaker 3: Love? H Hello? Hello? Is that better? Can you hear us?

452
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Speaker 4: I couldn't hear on Mike's.

453
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Speaker 3: Okay, So but Evin, what is gonna do?

454
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Speaker 4: We'll fix it at the We'll fix it in post.

455
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Speaker 8: That's that sounds right?

456
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Speaker 3: Can you hear Can you hear hear me?

457
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Speaker 2: Now?

458
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Speaker 8: On this one?

459
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Speaker 4: Okay?

460
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Speaker 8: I want to screw this one. Yeah.

461
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Speaker 12: So Kendrick Born was talking a little about his styling

462
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Speaker 12: and uh, you know the things that they throw at

463
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Speaker 12: you in Buffalo, Paul, which I know you're aware of

464
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Speaker 12: a little bit of that little joking, and uh yeah

465
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Speaker 12: it was To be honest, I was a little bit surprised,

466
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Speaker 12: like the atmosphere, and then Joelanie Tobai came in and

467
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Speaker 12: it was like someone had like punched his cat. Like

468
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Speaker 12: he was just like really, I don't know where that

469
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Speaker 12: came from, but but you know, seeming a little bit

470
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Speaker 12: more on brand for for how things are going. But

471
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Speaker 12: you know, Kendrick Keith, he's just full of personality in

472
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Speaker 12: life and uh having a good time and uh yeah,

473
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Speaker 12: we had Christian Gonzalez in there as well, just general stuff.

474
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Speaker 12: I mean, I think a lot of the questions are

475
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Speaker 12: just you know, what do you go to do this week?

476
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Speaker 12: And everybody's aware of how good the bills are, but

477
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Speaker 12: you know, things bother me though, guys, is that everyone

478
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Speaker 12: keeps talking about this being like look got bumped to primetime,

479
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 12: It got bumped to like like this is is this

480
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Speaker 12: a prompts the four twenty five slot not prime time?

481
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Speaker 3: No, because people keep making it sound like it's been

482
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Speaker 3: the only time, the only time four to twenty five

483
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Speaker 3: can even be considered prime. One network has like their

484
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Speaker 3: feature game, which is a game that goes beyond the region. Yeah,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, so like right now we're at four to

486
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Speaker 3: twenty five, but the only place you're going to be

487
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Speaker 3: able to watch us probably is New York and New England.

488
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but.

489
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Speaker 3: There is a game at four to twenty five, and

490
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Speaker 3: I don't know which one it is that will go

491
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Speaker 3: beyond the regions of the team's playing.

492
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Speaker 4: Okay, I agree with you, Freddy, And but it's also

493
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Speaker 4: Primetime is at night, not to day.

494
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Speaker 3: But there's a featured game. There's a national game at

495
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Speaker 3: four twenty five.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I know, I know what you're talking about.

497
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Speaker 4: I think Fox called it the game of the week.

498
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Speaker 3: Game of their game of the week, right, Yeah.

499
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Speaker 12: Last thing I'll say from the locker room was a

500
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Speaker 12: Pop Douglas seeing Felice navidad for Martin Martine. Uh. That

501
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Speaker 12: was that was that was something that was something Pop Douglas.

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Speaker 3: They do anything. Martin is our Spanish correspondent, you know,

503
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Speaker 3: he does all the everybody love whatever he asked the

504
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Speaker 3: players to do, they do what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 6: When Edelman came back to shoot the schedule release video,

507
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Speaker 6: he saw where Martin sits.

508
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Speaker 7: But Martin wasn't in that day.

509
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Speaker 6: Julian was like devastated that Martin wasn't there to say Hi.

510
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Speaker 6: I wrote him a note at his desk and everything.

511
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was actually adorable. And then in pre season

512
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Speaker 7: two Edelman was visiting. I watched him give Martin a

513
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Speaker 7: huge hug and like pick him up. Martin's like a

514
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Speaker 7: small guy. He's probably like just like the most adorable

515
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Speaker 7: little like. It was just so hilarious.

516
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Speaker 12: Everybody's whatever, really, well, pop jump right into police.

517
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Speaker 4: He's been around, Martin's been around for a long time. Yeah,

518
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Speaker 4: he was at He's got something that you don't have, Mike,

519
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Speaker 4: he was at Super bowls US.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, before he was a full time employee, he was

521
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Speaker 3: a freelance photographer for US in the Revolution. Yeah, so

522
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Speaker 3: he's been around the facility for a long time.

523
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Speaker 8: Yeah, good job, Markin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that'll be out on yeah at some point

525
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Speaker 3: from Yeah, a lot.

526
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Speaker 12: Of energy though, now that all the wide receivers are

527
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Speaker 12: all grouped together, it's just one big yuckfest over there

528
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Speaker 12: with all those guys. So yeah, we'll see if they're

529
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Speaker 12: able to get locked in this week.

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Speaker 8: Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.

532
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Speaker 4: I don't like that.

533
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Speaker 3: You know, if I don't like that, well, listen, we

534
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Speaker 3: know what we have up against stuff this week. It's

535
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Speaker 3: it's not going to be easy that the bills aren't

536
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Speaker 3: certainly going to be taking their foot off the gas. Uh.

537
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Speaker 3: They need to win. It's at their place, hostile environment.

538
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Speaker 3: But I just can't. I keep saying this every week.

539
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Speaker 3: I expect them to I expect the Patriots to respond,

540
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Speaker 3: but I don't know like I thought they would last week.

541
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Speaker 3: I thought last week, you know, they'd come off that

542
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Speaker 3: buy and be ready to go, and it just was

543
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Speaker 3: the opposite. So I don't know what to expect now.

544
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Speaker 3: I really don't.

545
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Speaker 8: I think you'll look pretty quick.

546
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Speaker 12: I feel like if you go out there and the

547
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Speaker 12: game will declare, I will declare itself quick if if

548
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Speaker 12: they're gonna, you know, put up a fight, I would say,

549
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Speaker 12: and you know, if they don't, I think Buffalo will

550
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Speaker 12: go out there, And was.

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Speaker 3: It the last time we were there? Like right away

552
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Speaker 3: it was fourteen nothing before you returned.

553
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Speaker 4: The opening kicked oh for us that one.

554
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Speaker 3: I guess it was a game before that, like we

555
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Speaker 3: fell behind fourteen nothing or something like that, like before

556
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Speaker 3: you even had a chance to be a lot of

557
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Speaker 3: those friends.

558
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they blend some of them.

559
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Speaker 12: But I just wonder if Buffalo is looking more for

560
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Speaker 12: let's just kind of cruise and get in and win

561
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Speaker 12: this game and get out, And you know.

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Speaker 4: Just I kind of think that I wouldn't be surprised

563
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Speaker 4: if it's relatively competitor for a little while. Because of that,

564
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Speaker 4: I just can't imagine that you can't keep the foot,

565
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Speaker 4: you know, on the gas pedal every single week. They

566
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Speaker 4: finished the season Buffalo Patriots, Jets, Patriots, So good for them.

567
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Speaker 4: So they're thinking, all right, we got through that gauntletter,

568
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Speaker 4: San Francisco, Rams, Detroit, now we get Patriots, Jets, Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Isn't it just like human nature to kind of let down.

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Speaker 3: A little bit, I would imagine, and I hope so,

571
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Speaker 3: I just.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it'll let down to

573
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Speaker 4: the point where the Patriots can actually pull off the

574
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Speaker 4: upside and win, But I wouldn't be surprised if it's

575
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Speaker 4: reasonably competitive.

576
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Speaker 3: Okay, what does it need to what needs to happen

577
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Speaker 3: besides the Bills taking their foot off the gas a

578
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Speaker 3: little bit? What do the Patriots need to do in

579
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Speaker 3: this game to keep it competitive?

580
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Speaker 12: Probably run the ball, I would say, keep Josh Allen

581
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Speaker 12: and they control it the ball a little bit, you know,

582
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Speaker 12: give some taking the offense off the field, make it manageable.

583
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Speaker 12: Third downs for them finishing the red zone, of course,

584
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Speaker 12: but I think if they're able to get the run

585
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Speaker 12: game going a little bit and control the pace of

586
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Speaker 12: the game if Buffalo comes out.

587
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Speaker 3: How does the Bills run defense this year? It's shaky

588
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: shaky in there. Yeah.

589
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Speaker 4: They don't give up a lot of yards back though, right.

590
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think their front's pretty good.

591
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Speaker 4: But they don't give up a lot of yards. But

592
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Speaker 4: their average per carry allowed as high, which tells you

593
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Speaker 4: that teams can run on them, but then they can't

594
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Speaker 4: continue to run because they fall behind.

595
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Speaker 3: It also could tell you, and I don't know that

596
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: they're giving a big running plays, you know, and that

597
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Speaker 3: skew the average.

598
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Speaker 4: That would be a lot of yards.

599
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that skews the average. Oh oh well not necessarily.

600
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: So they're like middle of the packing yards allowed, but

601
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Speaker 4: like in the mid twenties average per carry, it just

602
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Speaker 4: tells me that the other team can't continue to run

603
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Speaker 4: the ball.

604
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Speaker 3: How do you think it because they fall behind?

605
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Speaker 12: Right, Well, that's what do you think the Bill's scoring?

606
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 12: I think their first in the league. Like, how does

607
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Speaker 12: that affect your defensive statistics?

608
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Speaker 8: You know? Is it hard to be like were the

609
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Speaker 8: ocean Patriots.

610
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Speaker 4: It helps your run defense, but it hurts your pass defense,

611
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Speaker 4: right because you're going to give up passing yards. Like

612
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: last week's game against Detroit, they had that game won

613
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Speaker 4: the whole second half. They had a seventeen point lead. Yeah,

614
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Speaker 4: but you know, Detroit's a good offense. They kept throwing

615
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Speaker 4: the ball, they kept scoring. Before you know it, Gof's

616
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Speaker 4: throwing five touchdown passes. You make your stats look terrible,

617
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Speaker 4: but it was a game they really had won throughout

618
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Speaker 4: the fourth court.

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Speaker 3: So that's the thing about stats is, again we talk

620
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Speaker 3: about it all the time. You need the context.

621
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Speaker 4: There's lies, damn lies and statistics.

622
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Speaker 3: Right, you know, so like if you're falling behind all

623
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Speaker 3: the time, and you.

624
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Speaker 4: Know, uh, that's what DVOA does a better job of that. Okay,

625
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: don't don't ask me why how, but they take game

626
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Speaker 4: conditioned situations into a kind of skills.

627
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Speaker 3: So you need to do that, especially in football. You know,

628
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: you have those situations that you know, end of game.

629
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like my twenty twenty three defense with

630
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Speaker 4: and without project back up quarterbacks project that I may

631
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Speaker 4: or made.

632
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Speaker 3: Garbage toward stats. Things like that, having to throw the

633
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Speaker 3: ball because you're falling behind, uh, you know, and then

634
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Speaker 3: the defense stats on the other side, it affects those.

635
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: So you need the context in football when you're talking

636
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: about statistics.

637
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 12: So much nuance in it, and I think, you know,

638
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 12: some people just like to throw the one stat of

639
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Speaker 12: well they're third defense.

640
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Speaker 3: You know.

641
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 12: It's just it's also connected, and that's it's it's it's

642
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 12: part of what I like about covering football is that

643
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 12: there's a lot of ways to tell the story rather

644
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 12: than you know, just a simple stat and this is

645
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 12: is what it is. Certainly, I think the stats point

646
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Speaker 12: you in the direction of where it is, but there's

647
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 12: a lot of you know, nuanced buried.

648
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Speaker 6: You can also take numbers and argue cases either way,

649
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 6: you know, and that's all you have.

650
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love when people give you a number for something.

651
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: And Fred and I we both do this a lot,

652
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: Like what does that mean? How good is that? Where

653
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Speaker 4: does that? You know? Like numbers against the blitz We've

654
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: talked about many times, you know, like where does everybody

655
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Speaker 4: else fall in that category? Or you know, like is

656
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: that a lot? Is that a lot of times to

657
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: blit you something? Well, they blitzed them eleven times, right,

658
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, yeah, that is that a lot little

659
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Speaker 4: I don't know, what are.

660
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Speaker 3: The comparables, you know, yeah, I saw one. You know,

661
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Speaker 3: this is off the subject of thetisticks, but somebody had

662
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: a list of you know, spending. The Patriots were at

663
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Speaker 3: the bottom. Well they but they were only ten million

664
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Speaker 3: from the top of this list, which in the NFL,

665
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Speaker 3: that's not that much money, you know, So it was

666
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Speaker 3: just incremental.

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Speaker 4: It's just in ten million, not a lot of money

668
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Speaker 4: to Fred.

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Speaker 3: Well when you're talking about two hundred and forty million,

670
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Speaker 3: you know.

671
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Speaker 8: Like the light numbers.

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Speaker 12: They talk about Bill Belichick's biot and everyone asked like, well,

673
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Speaker 12: it's just ten million.

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Speaker 8: If he wants to get out, no problem. I was

675
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Speaker 8: kind of like, that.

676
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Speaker 3: Seems kind of like a lot of money to me.

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Speaker 12: I know, I don't you know, make a million dollars

678
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Speaker 12: a year, but ten millions still actually sounds a little bit.

679
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is

681
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Speaker 3: the TPX hotline. Let's go what happened all of a sudden?

682
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Speaker 3: I just oh your back now, I'm back. All right,

683
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the phones. We'll go to Sam in Connecticut.

684
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Speaker 3: What's up Sam?

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Speaker 13: Sam?

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, I called yesterday. I had a question about

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Speaker 14: the draft, or I guess to the counter argument we're

688
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Speaker 14: out thinking we should go for a tackle. One thing

689
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Speaker 14: I kind of realized that I forgot to add into

690
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Speaker 14: that is the option to train back if if we

691
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Speaker 14: don't see a tackle or an offensive lineman that we think,

692
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Speaker 14: you know, where's our first round pick? And kind of

693
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Speaker 14: with that, I wanted to ask you guys, how likely

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Speaker 14: do you think it is that another team would be

695
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Speaker 14: willing to trade up because I've I've kind of heard

696
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Speaker 14: that this draft doesn't have you know, a ton of

697
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Speaker 14: that clear you know, first round, top of the first

698
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Speaker 14: round talent like quarterbacks. But again, you know, I'm not

699
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Speaker 14: an expert, so I wanted to see, you know, your

700
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Speaker 14: thoughts on that. And then along with that, has our

701
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Speaker 14: defensive performance this year changed how you guys view this

702
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Speaker 14: upcoming draft or maybe the strategy, because I feel like

703
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Speaker 14: before it was you know, maybe you know, offensive line, receiver.

704
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Speaker 14: You know, we're by far the biggest priorities, which they

705
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Speaker 14: still might be, but obviously defense seats some work as well.

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Speaker 14: And then just one more question, Uh, last year, prior years,

707
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Speaker 14: New England hasn't been a really desirable location for free agents. Uh,

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Speaker 14: I just wanted to know if you guys thought that

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Speaker 14: changed with Drake May's performance this year. Do you guys

710
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Speaker 14: think he's done enough, uh, you know to make make

711
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Speaker 14: New England you know, desirable for you know, big name receivers,

712
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Speaker 14: you know, like Ridley Hopkins or you know any of

713
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Speaker 14: those other guys. I'll get off now and that you guys.

714
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Speaker 3: An't I had a I had to hang up because

715
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Speaker 3: a microphone I'm playing well with when we have callers,

716
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: there's something there's some echo and interference going on. Uh,

717
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Speaker 3: I'm exactly sure. Sounded like he was ylophone or a

718
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: toy piano or something like that.

719
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Speaker 4: Anyway, so he has there's a lot to chew on.

720
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Speaker 4: There is the first thing he was talking about with,

721
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Speaker 4: you know, the whole offensive line thing. And we all

722
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Speaker 4: agree offensive line is a major, major need. But we also,

723
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Speaker 4: I think all agree that they need a lot of stuff.

724
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Speaker 4: So they need to take the best player whoever they

725
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Speaker 4: think is the best player, regardless of position. Now, I

726
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: think most teams draft for need. I think you should

727
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Speaker 4: draft for need. But the Patriots advantage here is they

728
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: can draft anything and it's in need.

729
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Speaker 15: What are you doing over that nothing?

730
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Speaker 4: What do you guys? Have you a little thing going on?

731
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Speaker 7: I was laughing at what you said. Is that that

732
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Speaker 7: they have an advantage that they need so much?

733
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: Then?

734
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: No, it is because like you know, Evan brings up

735
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: Cole Strange all the time, like, and that's what happens

736
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Speaker 4: when you pick for need. No, that's what happens when

737
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Speaker 4: you reach for a player. Like if Cole Strange was

738
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: was an All Pro, you might say, I wouldn't I

739
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: wish they didn't take a guard. But you can't argue

740
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: it was a good player and he starts for you.

741
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Speaker 4: If it was Joe Toney knowing would argue right, you

742
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Speaker 4: know I would, But you know I'm a little augumentative.

743
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: What do you know? Listen, if you if you pick

744
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Speaker 3: a guy in the draft in the first round who's

745
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Speaker 3: on your team for ten to twelve years, it's a

746
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Speaker 3: good pick. And as a Pro Bowl player, you know

747
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Speaker 3: that's a good pick. You know.

748
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Speaker 4: So I think that's where you have to sort of

749
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Speaker 4: weigh it is the receiver or an edge guy like

750
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Speaker 4: Mike talked about Abdul Carter, who everybody loves. Is he

751
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: better than Will Campbell or Kelvin Banks, and if he is,

752
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: you got to take McMillan or Hunter or Carter.

753
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

754
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Speaker 12: I just I think people need to not sleep on

755
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 12: free agency this year. I mean, I think that's that's

756
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 12: a huge part of this all season and we'll see

757
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Speaker 12: when you get to the draft. But like you said,

758
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Speaker 12: I mean, you got to strike where it's hot in

759
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Speaker 12: the free agency class and that will affect how you

760
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Speaker 12: view the draft and what kind of draft picks you are.

761
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Speaker 12: But I think the bottom line is is that receiver

762
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Speaker 12: and tackle, no matter what you do in free agency,

763
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Speaker 12: you're probably gonna need another pretty good one in this day.

764
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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: So that gets to the second parts of those questions

766
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Speaker 4: that the trade up I agree with him was that Sam. Yeah, Sam,

767
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Speaker 4: I agree with Sam. I don't think this is going

768
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Speaker 4: to be one of those years that someone's going to

769
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Speaker 4: give you a ransom for, you know, to move on now, don't.

770
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Speaker 4: I don't see that guy that is so attractive now.

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Speaker 5: The only.

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Speaker 4: Possible exception to that is if some one of these

773
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Speaker 4: teams just completely falls in love with shudor Sanders or

774
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Speaker 4: camp Ward right and they just see something in him

775
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: that most other people right now aren't seeing. They might

776
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Speaker 4: look at it being more valuable. We got to get

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Speaker 4: up and get him because that's the guy we love.

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Speaker 4: And yep, you know, some coach might look at those

779
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: guys and say that he's perfect from my system.

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Speaker 8: You know, could you see that with Travis Hunter?

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Speaker 4: I couldn't, to be honest with you, but what do

782
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Speaker 4: I know?

783
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Speaker 3: What do I know? And then the final part of

784
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: being a destination for free agency. Listen, it's gonna come

785
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Speaker 3: down to money. The Patriots might have to have that

786
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: suck tax where they have to pay a little extra

787
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Speaker 3: than another team that is playoff you know, ready playoff contender.

788
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Speaker 3: But I do think that Drake may shown enough where

789
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Speaker 3: if you're a receiver, like, yeah, this guy can get

790
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: me the ball.

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Speaker 4: I think it's put the Patriots. It's removed the Patriots

792
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Speaker 4: from the no go list.

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Speaker 15: Right.

794
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Speaker 4: Well, they can throw the ball, so I can. I

795
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: can now now I can listen to their offers too,

796
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: right Like I think Brandon Ayuk had no interest in

797
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: listening to the Patriots.

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00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I know that as a fact.

799
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Speaker 4: I don't think that would be the case now because

800
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 4: they have a guy who can throw them back.

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Speaker 12: I think it's a good comparing contrast with Mac because

802
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 12: you know, after his rookie year, I think Mac had

803
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 12: some positive buzz around him, but nothing like we've seen

804
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 12: with Drake, where Drake's really getting like national praise about

805
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 12: just how good he is, especially going up against those

806
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 12: other rookie quarterbacks. So there is something really to compare

807
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Speaker 12: him against. And you know, even though there were some

808
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 12: positive feelings about Mac, I don't think we ever felt

809
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 12: like he's attractive as a player. But I think as

810
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 12: they as Drake has been built up, I do think

811
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Speaker 12: that people will pay attention. It's certainly going to help

812
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 12: a little bit for sure.

813
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to we'll try this. Ryan is an Idaho.

814
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 3: What's up? Ryan? Ryan? Can't hear Ryan? Okay? I don't

815
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: know if it's Ryan or technical, but you can try back.

816
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: We'll try one more and then we'll go to emails,

817
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: which we have a ton of Riley's in Phoenix.

818
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Speaker 13: Hey Riley, Hey guys, how are we doing today? And Alex?

819
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 13: So two quick things. One a little bit of drafttops here,

820
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 13: probably a little more student for Evans.

821
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Speaker 3: Okay, So then why don't we wait for catch twenty two? Then? Oh,

822
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm only kidding make it quick. We don't want to

823
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: talk draft. We want to talk for this year.

824
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: But anyway, go ahead, now you could say it football.

825
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's fine.

826
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

827
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 13: So my other points thing is with Gid Mail's best

828
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Speaker 13: conference after the game and how a lot of fans

829
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Speaker 13: are now calling every Monday walk back Monday with Gid

830
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Speaker 13: because the teams to put his foot in his mouth

831
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 13: and try and walk back the things he said after

832
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Speaker 13: the postgame conference. And and I just wanted to get

833
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 13: your guys' thoughts on that. Do you think it's solely

834
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 13: just a lack of experience with the press or do

835
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 13: you think that it's more so contributing.

836
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Speaker 10: To possibly the fact that Straw maybe doesn't have as

837
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 10: much power as we may think he does with like

838
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 10: offensive play following and things like that, especially with his

839
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 10: comment with.

840
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 13: AVP and running Drake right like that just doesn't seem

841
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 13: like they're on the same page a lot of the

842
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 13: times throughout the season.

843
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: So yep, that's it, thanks Riley. I I mean I

844
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Speaker 3: look at those as two separate things. The second part

845
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: could be true, maybe not, But the first part is

846
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: to me all about experience. He needs to get better

847
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 3: at this. He's not good at it right now, he's

848
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: not good at you know, the internal governor that he

849
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: needs to have about just answer the question. You don't

850
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: need to offer anything more than that. And then there's

851
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: sometimes where just don't go there and understand like everything

852
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: you say is going to be analyzed and dissected. And

853
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you have to be like Bill,

854
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: but there's a happy medium there. And in somewhere like

855
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 3: thirty two head coaches are doing press conferences every day

856
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: almost and they don't all get into the the hot

857
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: water that Girod has been getting in this year, and

858
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: they're not all like Bill where they don't offer anything.

859
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: There's a way to do it that still with a

860
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: smile on your face, still being nice to everyone, where

861
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: you just don't have to give out all that information

862
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: and even say everything that's on your mind.

863
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Speaker 6: I haven't made a point off air this morning that

864
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 6: I agree with that there's so much wrong with the

865
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Speaker 6: actual football stuff. So it kind of feels like the

866
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 6: low hanging fruit to be continuously criticizing Drawd semantics and

867
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Speaker 6: like a press conference, there's bigger issues that they have

868
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Speaker 6: than what he's saying to the media. And he just

869
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Speaker 6: was kind of calling it like a little bit lazy

870
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Speaker 6: for that to be like the biggest and loudest criticism

871
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Speaker 6: there kind of is on the team right now. It

872
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 6: seems like that's what's making the most noises.

873
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Speaker 3: I get it, and you know you can. But that's

874
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: the media's job, for sure, is to write about what

875
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Speaker 3: people are going to read about.

876
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Speaker 4: And I would strongly disagree with that too, because I

877
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 4: think that a lot of people that are criticizing the

878
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: press conference stuff are criticizing it because it's an illustration

879
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Speaker 4: of a lot, like the second part of that call, yep,

880
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: that not everybody's on the same page. Like when he

881
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Speaker 4: says what he said after the game about the play

882
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Speaker 4: calling on the run, he seemed to indicate that he

883
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: wanted to run Drake may Well, if you wanted to

884
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: do that, you should have done it. And that's why

885
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: I think there's been so much emphasis on the press

886
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: conference because it seems like the messaging changes. You know, again,

887
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: that's kind of extrapolating a little bit, but to your point,

888
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 4: like that's the drama, that sort.

889
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: Of that's the drama drives the meat and people want

890
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: the storylines. Now, you know, I'm not I'm not going

891
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: to say the media is totally not at fault. So

892
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: we go back, go back, go back to that press conference.

893
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: He says, you said it, I didn't. Someone followed up

894
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: and and Girodd said, you know, that's those are my decisions. Okay,

895
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: So now let's keep talking about that. So why didn't

896
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: you decide to run Drake may Like, that's the next

897
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: logical question, and no one asked it, so, you know,

898
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: so they're left surmising and and guessing when you could

899
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: have said, okay, so, why didn't you tell Alex van

900
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: Pelt to run some more running plays in the red

901
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 3: zone or wherever with with Drake may No one asked

902
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: the question after after Mayo said it's my decision.

903
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 12: Was Uh, when Bill got here in two thousand, was

904
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 12: he instantly the way he kind of was? I mean,

905
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 12: I always took that this was one of the lessons

906
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 12: he learned from Cleveland, was oh yeah, not to step

907
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 12: in it. But what was that process like for you

908
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 12: guys watching him evolve? And I mean I think it

909
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 12: probably took a hard turn around two thousand and seven maybe,

910
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 12: But what was he already kind of in that mode

911
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 12: when he got here into and he was.

912
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, he was not as bad as it was

913
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 4: at the end, but yeah, was.

914
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 12: Was it jarring going from Pete though where well all

915
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 12: of a sudden saying.

916
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, at least for me, I went

917
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 3: from Parcels to Pete to Bill. So Parcells was Bill,

918
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: but with more you know, he made it like when

919
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: we had the newspaper Foxwoods back in the day when

920
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: we could have casino ads. Fox would pay for a

921
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: double truck which was you know, their full page ad

922
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: and the transcription of Bill Parcells. They paid just to

923
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: have the transcription of the Bill Parcells Prescott. It was

924
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 3: that entertaining because he would quip and he would say

925
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: things and some of them were you know, jabs that

926
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: should be jab But it was entertaining. But he wouldn't

927
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: give you any information, you know.

928
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 8: Just did it more cleverly, just did it in.

929
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: A different way.

930
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: And Pete was tough. Now Pete was Pete was the

931
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 4: worst out of like my opinion of the three, because

932
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: he just rambled and he would no point.

933
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: And where actually Gerard's better than Pete.

934
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: Wass way better than Pete.

935
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: More even keel Pete when they were winning, he'd be

936
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, late.

937
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: In the evening, it's like James and he'd be.

938
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: Over the top and then you start losing games.

939
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 4: And that was that's what he did.

940
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: And then the media would start attacking him, and you know,

941
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: he would get all flustered to the point where I thought,

942
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: you know, at least a couple of media members started

943
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: bullying him in press conferences for sure. Yeah, you know.

944
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: And and so that was the vulnerability that Pete created

945
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: by being high and low, where Gerard I think does

946
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: a good job at least, you know, for now of

947
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: being pretty even key.

948
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: But it's funny that you brought up Belichick and what

949
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: he was like at the beginning, because I that was

950
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: kind of jarring. When the documentary came out, there was

951
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: a couple of clips of the whole Brady you know,

952
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: quarterback for the Yeah, there was. It was much more

953
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: sort of lighthearted with the media than I remember.

954
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 8: Going to pull the coaches, we're gonna pull like that

955
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 8: kind of stuff.

956
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: You know, like he you know, I think Nikofaro was

957
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 4: like joking around with them at one point, saying, you know,

958
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: you reserve the right to change your mind or something

959
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 4: like that, and he laughed and took it for what

960
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: it was. You know, like I think if someone did

961
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: that now, it would have been like, you know, one

962
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: of those, but he was. But Fred's right, he was

963
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: very much close to the vest right from the start,

964
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: you know.

965
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 3: And he uh, you know, his last head coaching stop

966
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: was Cleveland, and he was roundly criticized there because he

967
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: really started getting cantankerous with that media crew. It was

968
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: a bad situation behind the scenes. So that was probably

969
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: a reflection of that and he was told, I'm sure

970
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: by many people, you gotta be a little bit more

971
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: accommodating with and not be so harsh with the media.

972
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: So I think he learned a little bit from his

973
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: time at Cleveland, but eventually, like you start winning and

974
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: now you can do whatever you want, you know, I.

975
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 12: Do think, I mean, I think Girod Stunner a good

976
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 12: job trying to be his own guy. I just wonder

977
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 12: with the press conference stuff, if this was one area

978
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 12: where he saw how contentious it was between the media

979
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 12: and Bill and if that was one area he said,

980
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 12: that's one thing I'm really going to try to, you know,

981
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 12: do different. And he's such a personable guy anyway that

982
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 12: it's got to be hard to establish that governor of

983
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 12: what I'm saying and how it's going to be taken.

984
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 12: And you know again, I mean I would say I'm

985
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 12: still a little surprised that he's you know, lost in

986
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 12: trouble with it.

987
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: You know, as great as Bill was and now I'm

988
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: not even talking about the press conferences, and as great

989
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: as players appreciated playing for Bill and how much they learned,

990
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: there were still complaints within the locker room every year

991
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 3: of God doesn't communicate, he doesn't treat you like a man.

992
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes he doesn't, you know, And that was persistent, like

993
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: that happened. So I'm sure when in Gerard was part

994
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: of that. He was a player, he heard it, and

995
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: you know, so I'm sure that he was like, I'm

996
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: not going to be like that breaking down. I am

997
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: going to communicate with my players. I am going to

998
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: have an open door policy.

999
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 10: You know.

1000
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: Those are the things that he didn't like about when

1001
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: he played here, that he wanted not to be.

1002
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 12: That right, and he probably saw it affected the team negatively.

1003
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 12: It was one of the things of you know, one

1004
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 12: element that he had observed that you know, I think

1005
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 12: everybody's said similar things about that, where it's just that

1006
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 12: there were times where you know, he wasn't communicating enough.

1007
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 3: So you know, and I'm sure that you know the

1008
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: illuminati was thinking, right now, oh great, you know you'd

1009
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: be missed a nice guy. But what does it do

1010
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: for you on right?

1011
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: Well, and that's the part of the the Evan you

1012
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 4: know point about the press conferences that I agree with

1013
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: Evan on, Like, if they were eleven and three and

1014
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: he was exactly the same, saying everything exactly the same,

1015
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 4: people wouldn't be upset.

1016
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: They wouldn't. Of course they would.

1017
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: Because they would be proving that there aren't issues with

1018
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 4: the messaging right because they're winning, getting the message. Everybody's

1019
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: on the same page, because obviously they're eleven and three, right.

1020
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: I think that people are worried about it because of

1021
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 4: the record.

1022
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's winning, you know. Obviously if they were eleven

1023
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: and three, Drake may probably would be running the ball

1024
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: board with design.

1025
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: Places a whole different thing. I'm just saying, you know, like,

1026
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: if they were winning, I think that people wouldn't be

1027
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: concerned that what Mayo is saying isn't getting through to

1028
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: the players, getting to the coaches. It wouldn't be on

1029
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: the same page.

1030
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 3: Right, Winning cures everything. That's that's that's how it works

1031
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: in all sports. Let's go to Patty and agawam. What's

1032
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: up Patty?

1033
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 16: Hey, good afternoon guys, and Galo. So, I have a

1034
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 16: question about the Mario Douglas. I think he's a decent player.

1035
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 16: But do you guys think like we could possibly you

1036
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 16: might see the Patriots upgrade like that slot position in

1037
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 16: the draft, because it hasn't been uncommon in the past

1038
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 16: past years. I know it's the whole new offense, but

1039
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 16: to see them with a couple of slot.

1040
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 3: Receivers, well, listen, they have to do one of two things.

1041
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: They have to either improve the position by player or

1042
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: improve the use of the of the position because right

1043
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: now you're not getting the production out of the slot.

1044
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 4: I'd look for an upgrade there personally.

1045
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, my feeling would be, you need to upgrade the

1046
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 12: position so much that it thinks that matter.

1047
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 8: It doesn't really matter.

1048
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 12: It like pops a nice piece and you can have

1049
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 12: them and put them in there in the slot, but

1050
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 12: you're not counting on him to be one of the

1051
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 12: main engines your offense. You've got two new guys in

1052
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 12: there that are gonna be complimentary and then.

1053
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 8: Let Bourne Douglas Polk Baker.

1054
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 12: Let those guys fight it out next summer, and it's

1055
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 12: gonna be kind of the same thing when we walked in.

1056
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 12: Here's a bunch of guys. We know, these two new

1057
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 12: guys that they've invested in or drafted highly are gonna

1058
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 12: be here. But battle it out, Booty, you gotta you know,

1059
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 12: those guys have to fight it out again and see

1060
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 12: who you know can get on just the consistency page, right,

1061
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 12: I mean, that's the thing.

1062
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 8: It's just these guys are I mean, I'm.

1063
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 12: Not gonna lie, like just the energy just bugs me

1064
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 12: now with those guys, like all of them, the whole room,

1065
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 12: I'm just looking, I'm over.

1066
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: It, like, well, they don't have a leader.

1067
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 8: These aren't Julian Edelman, remember Julian.

1068
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 12: Edelman was like he seems pissed, like, yeah, they lost

1069
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 12: one game, you know, like there's none of that vibe

1070
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 12: with those guys. And I don't know. I just I've

1071
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 12: I've fallen out of favor. That's not probably not the

1072
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 12: right word. I've just fallen out of love with the

1073
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 12: whole atmosphere. They right and just and again, my dad,

1074
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 12: that was me, Haha, messed up again?

1075
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do?

1076
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 7: Fred makes a.

1077
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: Great point about they don't have like Kendrick's a great

1078
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: guy and keeps everyone's spirits up, but like as a

1079
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 6: veteran leader, like that's not what I picture in my head,

1080
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 6: And contrasted with the tight end room, I think it's

1081
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 6: night and day.

1082
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: They don't have anyone that does their talking in the field.

1083
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: Well, that's yeah, I mean, I think Alex makes a

1084
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: really good point about that's not necessarily the leadership style,

1085
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: whereas I think they probably are a little bit more

1086
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: professional with Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper in the tight

1087
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: end room. But yeah, they don't have a guy on

1088
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 4: the field that's clearly leading the way.

1089
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 6: And Hunter and Austin are two guys that they came

1090
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 6: into the league with really great established quarterbacks that poured

1091
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 6: into them and I think they're using that example with

1092
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 6: Drake and they I know tight ends are often like

1093
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 6: the safety blanket, but clearly he's having a connection with

1094
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: those guys and really that's where all the offense comes from,

1095
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 6: is those tight ends.

1096
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 3: Right now, now, going into year two with Drake May,

1097
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: the leader of the offense will be Drake May, and

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Speaker 3: he will also be the leader of those wide receivers

1099
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Speaker 3: in many respects. I think this year obviously he's you know,

1100
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 3: figuring things out, and I know we've heard stories about

1101
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: him becoming more vocal of late. But next year, if

1102
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Speaker 3: there's problems with the wide receivers, they're going to hear

1103
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: it from their quarterback, you know, like you do on

1104
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: most teams with good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 8: They better.

1106
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Speaker 12: I five, I was getting know as I thought with

1107
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 12: Kendrick Bourne, he's uh, he's the kind of.

1108
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 8: Guy that would get iced out by Brady.

1109
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeause he's.

1110
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Speaker 12: So inconsistent and you just don't know what you're gonna

1111
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 12: get from.

1112
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 8: Down What would the right spot?

1113
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: Now, what would Tom Brady do with this crew? Like

1114
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: he'd be icing everybody?

1115
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 12: Yeah, right, well, I think Hunter, Henry and Hooper probably No, No,

1116
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 12: I'm talking about the receivers, Like, well, how would Tom

1117
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 12: Brady handle this? I mean if you walked in and said, okay,

1118
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 12: you're taking over the offense, Tom, you're the quarterback.

1119
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: How do you think he would deal with that?

1120
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Speaker 12: Sh not well, not well, Bop. I especially wonder like

1121
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 12: with guy like Polk, like if you saw that connection

1122
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 12: in the summer with with Brady and a receiver like that,

1123
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 12: I would, you know, guess and I don't. I mean,

1124
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 12: I would say probably some more from Polk than Sha

1125
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 12: Kobe Myers. I mean that was that was my first year.

1126
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 12: Maybe that's a little like just in training camp working

1127
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 12: with Brady, but you know, just in terms of volume,

1128
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 12: how much involvement he had, you know that that would

1129
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 12: be weird. That would be weird to see kind of

1130
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 12: like he earned the trust. But now all that I mean,

1131
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 12: of course Polk is his own case. I shouldn't use

1132
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 12: him for examples. I feel like he's such an anomaly.

1133
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 6: It's so hard to because you would think like it

1134
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 6: would look totally different if Brady were here kind of

1135
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 6: leading that group. And that's not a fault to Drake,

1136
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 6: because Drake's a rookie. Like it's hard, it's really awkward

1137
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 6: for him to come in and just try to exert

1138
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 6: his dominance in his rookie year. But with Tom, like

1139
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: he wouldn't put up.

1140
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 12: With that, no, no, and he hold him to a

1141
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 12: standard and this inconsistency, yes, but it all.

1142
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 6: Goes back to like really strong veteran presidents setting a

1143
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 6: standard and unfortunately, like we've had that for years and

1144
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 6: years and years here and it's just kind of disintegrated

1145
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 6: a little.

1146
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 12: Another question for the group I was wondering about it.

1147
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 8: It's like, at what point does.

1148
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 12: Is there too much losing within the culture and it's

1149
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 12: just you know, it's infected the team and they just

1150
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 12: haven't been successful and you know so long, and you know,

1151
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 12: what point do you just feel like these guys they've

1152
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 12: kind of lost the edge to win and how do

1153
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 12: you get it back?

1154
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 3: No further than the Jets.

1155
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: Well, I think that I made that point yesterday or

1156
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: this week's at some point like this is this has

1157
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: a chance to be what thirty five of these guys,

1158
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 4: forty of these guys how many you want to pick,

1159
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: We'll be back next year and a lot of them

1160
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: will have won seven games in two years. Like That's

1161
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 4: That's why I think it's important that you find a

1162
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: way to win some games, because I think that you

1163
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: need to establish some kind of a winning atmosphere that

1164
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: they haven't been able to do for a couple of years.

1165
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: The start for next year will be critical.

1166
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1167
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, if Mao's back, I mean yeah, I'm.

1168
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: Sure I'm assuming that he will be From minute one

1169
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Mike's in Puerto Rico. What's up, Mike?

1170
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: Not much, Hones. You guys doing the weather?

1171
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I just.

1172
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: First wanted to say easy to think, easy to outthink,

1173
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: easy to destroy, facred game plans.

1174
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I wanted to.

1175
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: Throw a quick question out there for y'all. I mean

1176
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: two points mainly is number one. How what does it

1177
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: say about our offense and our offensive talent when two

1178
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: of the people that, if brought on board, would be

1179
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: our most dynamic weapons would actually be playing defense, that

1180
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: is with Marcus Jones and bringing in Travis Hunter. If

1181
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: we bring those two players and that's what we get

1182
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: excited for next year and both of them are primarily

1183
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: defensive players, I'm.

1184
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: Not sure I understand. What are you saying, Like, what's

1185
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: the question? That's not a good thing? That if our

1186
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: two best offensive players are primarily defensive players. Is that

1187
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: what you're saying?

1188
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's just an indictment.

1189
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case.

1190
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 12: You know that we have Yeah, No, I mean I

1191
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 12: think Elliot Wolf said last year he had to weaponize

1192
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 12: the offense. I think he's got to weaponize the offense

1193
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 12: this year. It's the same it's the same thing. I mean,

1194
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 12: and and it's it's more than.

1195
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: Just the first weaponize the defense, so.

1196
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 8: I think they need to do that too.

1197
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 17: Well.

1198
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: And then the the other thing that I was going

1199
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: to say, And I know you're a big Jabrill Peppers.

1200
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 8: Fan, huge dude, huge field dude.

1201
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: Sorry dude, but I don't know if any of you

1202
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: are getting like Mac Jones byres from him, Like I

1203
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: see him playing and it just doesn't seem to like

1204
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: he didn't think like he's either going for the big

1205
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: hit or he like if mine is not in the game.

1206
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: For example, I think there was a screen with doors

1207
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: that he had the angle, but for whatever reason, he

1208
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: decided to go after one of the blockers rather than

1209
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: going straight at the at the wide received any.

1210
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 12: Of them catch that I did, I did, I mean,

1211
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 12: and I looked out more as him just setting a

1212
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 12: hard edge and hoping that his help was going to

1213
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 12: get the guys, you know, as he forced him back inside.

1214
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 12: But I mean that of course, it's it's he's rusty.

1215
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 8: I mean, he hasn't.

1216
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 12: He didn't in the building for how long, I mean

1217
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 12: two months. I mean, he's givehim a little bit of time.

1218
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 12: I mean, but look, I'm not I'm not necessarily throwing

1219
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 12: the parades anymore that I wasn't once.

1220
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 4: No, I know, I just like to That's what I do.

1221
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: T I mean, right, No, I want to do the email,

1222
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 3: the email cast his podcasts at patriots dot com, And

1223
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: if you want to sign up for the PU newsletter,

1224
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: you can do that by going to Patriots dot com

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00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: slash PU Newsletter. We've got one coming out tomorrow, right, Alex.

1226
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 7: You got to email me back your questions.

1227
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 3: Okay, bad question, I just haven't had time, Guardian.

1228
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 8: Last night was old fashions.

1229
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 6: I tried so hard to get some great content of

1230
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 6: Fred dancing to salsa.

1231
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 8: So did you have lessons?

1232
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys are familiar with Bad

1233
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 6: Bunny or his song, but Fred has footwork like I

1234
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 6: was very pleasantly surprised that Fred's dance moves looks like

1235
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 6: he's taking a salsa class.

1236
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 7: Before trying to get some content pressed.

1237
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: Never taking a dance class, I got the rhythm rhythm pressed.

1238
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 4: With men that dance well, okay, because I don't think that.

1239
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a lot of men that dance well.

1240
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 3: No, Fred Astaire Gene Kelly Hello Jack.

1241
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 12: I told my boys, girls love a guy with a

1242
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 12: little bit of rhythm. You have to get crazy. You

1243
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 12: don't have to be break dancing out there. But if

1244
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 12: you're willing to get out there, girls they love it.

1245
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: If you're like with an average group of guys and

1246
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 4: you go out, Oh yeah, how many of them actually

1247
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: look good dancing?

1248
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: Not?

1249
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: My answer for me was one, but guys don't.

1250
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: I think if guys practice as much as girls, they

1251
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: would be good. Did They just don't put the work. Well.

1252
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 6: Girls, it's more normal to take dance your whole life

1253
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 6: and learn rhythm.

1254
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: But if guys practice, they'd be as good a dancer.

1255
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: Just watching most of them, don't.

1256
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: They don't? They don't.

1257
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: You're right, you're going to the club that I as

1258
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: extremely mid when it comes to dancing.

1259
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 7: I think have an advantage.

1260
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: I was actually going to get compliment along that line,

1261
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: but made.

1262
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Speaker 6: Fun translate into today.

1263
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: That's why jumprope. You know you gotta have that.

1264
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Speaker 15: That's kind of the message to the players and everything

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Speaker 15: You know, it starts with the quarterback. You know, he's

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Speaker 15: playing at an unbelievable level right now. He's doing a

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 15: good job seeing the field. Has always been dangerous with

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00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 15: both his legs and his arm. I would say, you know,

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Speaker 15: just from watching them, like the way he's seeing the

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Speaker 15: extend plays and turn the street ball is definitely, uh,

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1311
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 15: field to try to slow him down first and foremost,

1312
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 15: and then saying that, you know, Cook, you know they

1313
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 15: got some good backs as well, Cook, and they try

1314
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 15: to expl they try to exploit, you know, the backs

1315
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 15: on you know, the linebackers and even sometimes the safeties.

1316
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 15: But definitely a very explosive player, and obviously the receivers.

1317
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 15: Even with the rookie, he's playing well for him, big fast, strong,

1318
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 15: could do a bunch of different things. Don't forget about

1319
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 15: ken Kaid, who you know, especially after coming off last week,

1320
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 15: you know he's definitely going to be be targeted in

1321
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 15: this game. And so we have to do a good

1322
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 15: job whether we're talking about zone or man uh limiting,

1323
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 15: limiting that connection between the quarterback. Defensively, to me, it

1324
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 15: starts up front. You know, a couple good edge rushers

1325
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 15: and Russl and a Panessa, very good players. And then

1326
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 15: to me, it really starts with Ed Oliver. I think

1327
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 15: I've been a fan since he was in college. Very

1328
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 15: disruptive player, and you can tell he's really coming to

1329
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 15: his own and makes this defense go. Good players in

1330
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 15: the back end as well, And then talking about special teams, look,

1331
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 15: these guys are physical in the special teams world, and

1332
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 15: you know they're just we got to match that physicality

1333
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 15: and go out there and win, win that battle fire away.

1334
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: That's the biggest challenge of Josh Allen.

1335
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 21: What makes him maybe arguably different than any other quarterback

1336
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 21: in the NFL.

1337
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, first he's I don't know how much he weighs,

1338
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 15: but I mean this is a big, big human being here.

1339
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 15: So a guy that anytime, a guy who you know

1340
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 15: there are rules around obviously tackling quarterbacks, but he also

1341
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 15: can run you over, run around you, and also still

1342
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 15: maintain being a passer as he gets outside the pocket.

1343
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 15: And those are just the challenges that he puts on defenses.

1344
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 11: Any planners without hope their rosters thought to build that today.

1345
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 15: Not today, We're not I'm not gonna gain say it,

1346
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 15: but not today though.

1347
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: I think it was Nate Tice posted on Twitter the

1348
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 4: keishak used to finishing all this route place for me

1349
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 4: to see.

1350
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 11: Have you seen an issue that at a location on

1351
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 11: this reverence.

1352
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 15: I'm not gonna talk about specific players. I think we

1353
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 15: all have to get better. You know, for me, you

1354
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 15: talk about booty, it's get open and catch the ball.

1355
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 15: I mean that's your job as a wide receiver and

1356
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 15: receivers in the title of your of your job, your

1357
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 15: job description, and that's our expectation.

1358
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 11: Right there was an apportion night have seen it say

1359
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 11: that you've been clindly.

1360
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 9: Ensured that the crafts are really getting you in the

1361
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 9: time and resources necessary.

1362
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: To continue to move into the job.

1363
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 11: Is that the community to teams.

1364
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 15: I'm not sure where that story came from. Look, I

1365
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 15: have multiple conversations on a daily basis with ownership and

1366
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 15: they've always been supportive.

1367
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 11: You've also talked about getting better in year two.

1368
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 15: Is that that assure you that you have no again? Again?

1369
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 15: For me this week, my focus is on this game,

1370
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 15: the Bills here today, like things that happened at the

1371
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 15: end of the season, Like I can't control those things,

1372
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 15: So it's all about the Bills.

1373
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 11: I understand where you're coming from.

1374
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 15: I appreciate the answer, but if he's obviously don't have

1375
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 15: a speculation recently and help.

1376
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 11: Your future by that answer, you don't necessarily squash the well.

1377
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 15: I'm not trying to squash anything. I'm trying to let

1378
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 15: you know, like where my focus is, and it's on

1379
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 15: the Bills. I understand the question. Thanks.

1380
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 11: You mentioned Josh Allen's duel thread ability. Kyler Murray obviously

1381
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 11: another guy with a similar kind of skill set. How

1382
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 11: do you feel like you guys defended him in that

1383
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 11: respect well?

1384
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 15: As far as keeping Kyler in the pocket, I would

1385
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 15: say overall it was a decent job. But these are

1386
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 15: two different beasts that you're talking about the difference between

1387
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 15: Kyler Murray and Josh Allen. Kyler definitely a quicker guy,

1388
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 15: you know, can do a lot of different things with

1389
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 15: his legs. With Josh Allen just overall would say he's

1390
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 15: a stronger guy than one of the top quarterbacks in

1391
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 15: the league.

1392
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 11: It's historically the Patris have got one of the best defenses.

1393
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 4: And we certainly haven't played coached here and that really

1394
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 4: hasn't been the case this year.

1395
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 11: If you had to boil it down, what is the

1396
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 11: reason for some of the play and the client.

1397
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 15: Look, I'm not gonna I don't want to get into

1398
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 15: you know, the players or anything like that. We just

1399
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 15: have to play better and next keep better. That's what

1400
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 15: it comes down to.

1401
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 11: Druid.

1402
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 8: You said something someday that stuck with me.

1403
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 17: You said about accountabilities about going out and correcting it

1404
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 17: about action. Some of the players, to my thinking, are

1405
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 17: making the same mistakes.

1406
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 11: How do you create accountability with the players?

1407
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 13: Do you know I play them?

1408
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 10: Do you?

1409
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 15: How do you?

1410
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 11: How do you create that accountability so the stakes don't

1411
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 11: happen again?

1412
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1413
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 15: I think you know, you would always love to be

1414
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 15: able to you know, a guy make a mistake, you

1415
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 15: pull into the sideline and go on from there. You

1416
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 15: would love to do those things. I would say, we're

1417
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 15: not in that position right now. And look, I mean

1418
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 15: I think each individual situation that you're talking about is different,

1419
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 15: you know, post snap penalty versus a pre snap penalty,

1420
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 15: at least in my mind, is different. And how you

1421
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 15: handle those things and so that's how I kind of

1422
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 15: go about it.

1423
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 5: N How would you.

1424
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 6: Say, as the season's gone on, the players that you

1425
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 6: all have kind of responded to your coaching style because

1426
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 6: it's different than what spending the time.

1427
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 15: It is different. And I would say, you know, I

1428
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 15: think those guys they go out there and they play

1429
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 15: hard every day. I mean, I'm not trying to offer

1430
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 15: a consolation prize because it comes down to wins and losses,

1431
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 15: which we haven't won many games this year and I mean,

1432
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 15: that's no secret. I do think the guys go out

1433
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 15: every single day and practice hard and try to squeeze

1434
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 15: as much as we can out of those guys to

1435
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 15: go out there and perform on Sunday.

1436
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 6: Do you feel like the message is that you're trying

1437
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 6: to get across and like geccount Valley and all that,

1438
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 6: do you feel like they're reaching the team in the

1439
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 6: way that you would want them to reach.

1440
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1441
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: I do.

1442
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 15: I would also say, you know, historically, no matter if

1443
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 15: you're playing high school, college, whatever, I would say it's

1444
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 15: also you have a conversation with the captains. You have

1445
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 15: a conversation with the team, and you know the captains

1446
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 15: have to disseminate that message and you know we're professional reminders,

1447
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 15: that's what we are.

1448
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 11: Do you feel that.

1449
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: The team, you and the team have established an identity

1450
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: yet or is that still something that you're working to

1451
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 5: map out.

1452
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1453
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, I understand the question one hundred percent. What I

1454
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 15: would say is we are what our record says we

1455
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 15: are at this point in time, and we just got

1456
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 15: to get better.

1457
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 22: Do you see the chief overlap or similar they should

1458
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 22: say between your quarterback and Josh Allen's.

1459
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 11: Quarter For this weekend.

1460
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 15: Well, one you know, was the MVP of the league

1461
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 15: and the other is a rookie quarterback. You know, I'm

1462
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 15: not trying to be smart. I'm just saying it's you.

1463
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 15: I don't want to get into comparison and comparing those

1464
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 15: two players. They both offer the ability to run and

1465
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 15: the ability to throw the ball down the field. And

1466
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 15: saying that, you know, Josh being a veteran quarterback is

1467
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 15: a difficult challenge.

1468
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: Coach.

1469
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 9: On James Connors fifty three yard run, you mentioned that

1470
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 9: there were a couple of defenders you would have expected

1471
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 9: to make the tackle that didn't. So I'm curious when

1472
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 9: it comes to the safety and linebacker play, have they

1473
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 9: been meeting your expectations and if not, where would you

1474
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 9: like to see those has improved?

1475
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 15: They definitely have to improve. I would say all phases

1476
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 15: have to improve. Coaching has to improve. But you know,

1477
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 15: the expectation is always when you go into a game,

1478
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 15: you know you got to go out there and play

1479
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 15: with good fundamentals and tackle them falls in that bucket

1480
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 15: off line this.

1481
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 11: Week, If you envision any changes starting good this week.

1482
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,479
Speaker 15: We look, we'll see how practice goes today. And again

1483
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 15: we're always trying to put the best guys out there

1484
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 15: that give us the best opportunity to win.

1485
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: As I mentioned, you have alluded to the running backs

1486
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: and passing.

1487
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 11: The tight ends for Buffalos. You know, they've been productive

1488
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,959
Speaker 11: and late, but the other games rally.

1489
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 10: Will throw the ball to different resuers, a lot of

1490
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 10: target professionally.

1491
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 11: Part of it the skill set there. What have you

1492
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 11: seen in his growth and kind of the evolution of

1493
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 11: their offense from when you first coached Againston.

1494
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, for me, I always say, and I told the guy,

1495
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 15: I told the coaches this. I thought Josh Allen really

1496
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 15: took a huge step forward when he started taking the

1497
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 15: profit and being able just to take the check down

1498
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 15: and that became That's where that was the point, at

1499
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 15: least in my mind, when he became a very very

1500
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 15: good quarterback in this league.

1501
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 22: Going back in front of it, I know this is

1502
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 22: three years ago, but it felt like he started to

1503
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 22: get a real handled in twenty twenty one that you

1504
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 22: guys threw a ton at him.

1505
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 11: You faced him three times.

1506
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 22: What do you remember about spitting the dialis as much

1507
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 22: as possible and him having answers.

1508
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, look just kind of what I said earlier,

1509
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 15: it was more about him just taking the profit like

1510
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 15: early in his career, because he does have a big arm,

1511
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 15: he does have athletic ability to run around. He was

1512
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 15: always trying to make the big play. And I thought

1513
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 15: the evolution of Josh Allen was when he took the profit.

1514
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 11: You want to go for the job.

1515
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 21: There's a lot of discussion about the word collaboration as

1516
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 21: you got through this first year here. How have you

1517
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 21: gone about sort of asserting what it is that you

1518
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 21: want to do when you've kind of, you know, for

1519
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 21: lack of a better term, you had.

1520
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 15: The hammer and made it very to be a collaboration

1521
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 15: doesn't mean that everyone you know has you know, equal vote.

1522
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 15: It's about just listening and trying to do what's best

1523
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 15: and ultimately that's on me to do what's best for

1524
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,879
Speaker 15: the football team. Exact thanks.

1525
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1526
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 4: History. It's a totally different food.

1527
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 23: I'm talking about boneless buffalo wings as opposed to bone

1528
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 23: in buffalo wings.

1529
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 21: Right, But isn't what's in the chicken finger the same

1530
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 21: as the boneless buffalo wings?

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: Necessarily it does nice to say it does not.

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 5: Taste the same.

1533
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: You can put anything in the boneless stuff.

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 23: And I'm not even I'm not even anti because of that.

1535
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 23: Although he's right, Fred's absolutely right, it's not necessarily the same.

1536
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 23: The bone I think gives it more flavor. Yeah, I

1537
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 23: think it's a better you ever have a bone put

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 23: a non bonus.

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely get that.

1540
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 4: Bone in boner.

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Speaker 1: B That's another great moment.

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Speaker 3: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eighty five five

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Speaker 3: Pass five hundred is a tpx utline podcast at Patriots

1544
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 3: dot com. As an email address, it's Alex, it's Deuce,

1545
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 3: it's me, it's Paul Jules.

1546
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 5: In the booth.

1547
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 3: Evan'll be by later. We'll talk about practice and we'll

1548
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: get into the picks. We gotta hurry. Let's get to

1549
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 3: some of these emails at podcasts at Patriots dot com.

1550
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: Happy holidays to all, says Ryan, thanks for all the content.

1551
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 3: As far as the game goes, I expect the Patriots

1552
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: to get the breaks beat out of them in this game.

1553
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 3: It could be a high scoring endeavor, but I fear

1554
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: a fifty burger is in store for this Bill's offense

1555
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: if they show up and play well. For me, the

1556
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 3: second Bills game in Week eighteen is going to be

1557
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: a bigger deal. For this regime. If they get beat

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01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 3: badly this week, seeing how this coaching staff adjust to

1559
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: what the Bills do and then prepares a game plan

1560
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 3: in Week eighteen will be important. If the Bills beat

1561
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 3: the Patriots badly by seventeen or more in each game,

1562
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: would that change your outlook for this coaching staff going

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 3: into twenty twenty five?

1564
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 4: Uh no, no, No. The Bills are roughly somewhere between

1565
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, fifteen and twenty points better than the Patriots,

1566
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 4: don't you think?

1567
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 8: Yes?

1568
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so like I don't know. I mean, now,

1569
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 4: if you lose like embarrassingly, like you're just not ready

1570
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 4: to play it, it's a mess. I mean, that's different

1571
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But just on paper, losing a game

1572
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 4: by seventeen points to a team that's vastly superior to you,

1573
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't think his grounds are firing, do you.

1574
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 12: Well, they just haven't had any answers for Josh Alleny

1575
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 12: when they have Bill here and they had all their defense,

1576
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 12: and I mean, he's he's pretty much been a problem

1577
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 12: every time they've faced them, you know, And.

1578
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 4: I still think they kind of feel like they're better

1579
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 4: against him than they are now. Even listening to JaMarcus

1580
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 4: a little bit today. You know, yeah, you know we've

1581
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 4: dealt with him and you know we've we've done pretty good,

1582
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: you know, like have you.

1583
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 7: I feel like that Wind Game just has inflated the confidence.

1584
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 4: Even the wind Game, he was able to throw it

1585
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: all over them in the wind once the once they

1586
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 4: figured out that they could throw, you know.

1587
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 8: He can throw.

1588
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see who's this? It is Philip and he

1589
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: writes in first uh pick got a hurry first time email.

1590
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 3: I have been listening since Evan joined the show. I've

1591
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 3: also been listening to Evan and Barrs since they did

1592
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: the Patriots Beat podcast together and clinics.

1593
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: Is that like Teen Beat Tiger Beat?

1594
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's exactly.

1595
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 12: It's it's a teen magazine that Evan and and Alex

1596
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 12: I just got.

1597
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 3: I just have two quick questions, one being what is

1598
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: what is the origin of we got our guy sound bite?

1599
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: Every time Fred says it and cracks me up all

1600
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 3: day and I can never get it out of my head.

1601
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: But I always wondered where the original sound came from.

1602
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 3: It's from the draft. So we make fun of the

1603
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 3: cowboys because every draft they have their care was in

1604
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 3: the war room. And I don't care what round it is,

1605
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: sixth round pick. They picked their guy and they all

1606
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: slapping each other and high five and like, you know,

1607
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 3: they got the pick of the draft. And so that's

1608
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 3: how it started, Like we got our guy, and you

1609
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: know you do it in like that Texas ti.

1610
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: So we would look at it and we would be

1611
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 4: like if you're in the draft room for an NFL

1612
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 4: team and then you select a guy, didn't you know

1613
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 4: you were going to select that guy? But they all

1614
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 4: act like, oh yeah, Mike, great job, Alex stuff there,

1615
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 4: we got our guy. That was that was afredism, you know,

1616
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: like they all act like there's stunts that they got

1617
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: the guy that they've been scouting.

1618
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: And it's all mugging for the camera. It's like look

1619
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: at him and you know we we you know, we.

1620
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 4: Only think missing it is a cigar.

1621
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, didn't we do one two the third day of

1622
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 12: the one of those draft shows we did, Like when

1623
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 12: the Patriots draft to pit we all say high five.

1624
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 3: Like all right, but you know, all right, you know,

1625
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 3: we sing of this guy out and by god, we

1626
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: got them. Look at us.

1627
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 4: There's a blast.

1628
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: So that's how it started. With the Cowboys, we got

1629
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: our guy. But just watch next year when they have

1630
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: the draft on ESPN or NFL network. Watch when the

1631
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: Cowboys make their pick. It's like they just invented, you know, drafting.

1632
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 8: I also love the kid in the suit.

1633
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 12: That's my favorite part of the Cowboys is like one

1634
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 12: of the grandsons who's probably like eleven years old and

1635
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 12: he's in a full suit there, and you know he's

1636
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 12: already more worth more than I am.

1637
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: They've gone over the top, like you know, they have

1638
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 3: contest winners sitting in the war room. It's it's crazy.

1639
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: The number two question he had, let's see, I gotta

1640
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 3: read where am I? Okay, how many your signatures do

1641
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: I need to gather for a petition to bring Catch

1642
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: twenty two back to two days a week? The Boys

1643
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 3: need more than just two hours to dissect the last

1644
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: game and preview the upcoming game. Though Evan tries to

1645
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: keep Barth on topic or keep them on rapid firetime,

1646
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: it often fails. Love both shows. Listen to every episode.

1647
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: Thanks for everything, So no, we won't be having to

1648
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: catch twenty two's and there it is.

1649
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: It's a non star. Mike and I have talked about that.

1650
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, pp In the two.

1651
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 4: No having them having Evan do Tuesday and Thursday and then,

1652
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 4: because you know he's not always here, but that would

1653
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 4: be a way to get him on.

1654
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 3: We'll figure something now. We had the whole off season

1655
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: to figure. What I will say is, well, probably you'll

1656
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: probably have more Barth and more Evan closer to the draft.

1657
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: Probably give them more airtime to talk about that. Jacob

1658
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 3: and Illinois. All the weather outside is frightful, but Drake

1659
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: May's progress is delightful. Our records got no place to go.

1660
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: So let it snow. Let it snow, Let it snow.

1661
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,879
Speaker 3: Our suck has no signs of stopping. Mike's negativity is popping,

1662
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 3: and though our spirits are way down low, let it snow.

1663
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: Let it snow. Let it snowing. Jacob from Illinois with

1664
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 3: a little.

1665
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 4: Not bad than cute, not bad, good job, good effort.

1666
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: I could sing it if eat lots of emails, put

1667
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 3: right there a lot of emails.

1668
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 8: Do you want to get serious about your.

1669
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 7: I can hold a couple of That is a game?

1670
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: Did you really really have?

1671
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 12: Now?

1672
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 6: I want you back by the Jackson five? Then I

1673
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 6: forgot solid the levels of the competition. I finished with

1674
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 6: believe it or not, Whitney Houston want to dance with somebody?

1675
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: What do you?

1676
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 12: That's like those are the two most difficult karaoke songs

1677
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 12: that exist.

1678
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 8: I can bell I Always love You.

1679
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 7: I'm a great karaoke you can know you could blow.

1680
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 3: That's what they can blow.

1681
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 12: Did you have singing lessons?

1682
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 7: My mom's a phenomenal singer, so all my sisters.

1683
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 12: Actually it's undroet some moody you guys, very musical house.

1684
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 7: There was always like Tony Braxton or Houston, like.

1685
01:15:59,400 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 8: We're turning it on.

1686
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 6: My mom is a deep appreciation for.

1687
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 7: The female vote the nineties.

1688
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 4: I would never do it like in front of any buddy,

1689
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 4: but I do a good Tony Braxton in the car trying.

1690
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 6: Like was always playing Saturday morning, my mom CDs were

1691
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 6: on and we were up clean in the house.

1692
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 12: And you're hitting like ten year old Michael Jackson notes like,

1693
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 12: oh God, I'll let you go.

1694
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 4: He's really embracing this musical side. It's it's like it's

1695
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 4: happening right in front of this is great.

1696
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 6: There's like a Wei game where you kind of like dance,

1697
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 6: just dance on the Wii, and the Jackson five was

1698
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 6: like my go to songs.

1699
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 7: So I think I just heard it so much.

1700
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 4: Can I tried, but I don't have any ability whatsoever

1701
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 4: to sing.

1702
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 3: I got to hear this, okay, So that's a little

1703
01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 3: bit decided off season we're going to have singing. No,

1704
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 3: we're not.

1705
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 5: We're not.

1706
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 8: It's going to get me to choose.

1707
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 3: You get to choose your song. Yes you can. You

1708
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 3: can pretend you're in the shower.

1709
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 15: I can't say.

1710
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 3: Yes.

1711
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 12: You get extra points if you play an instrument along

1712
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 12: with yourself, and b do you get extra points if

1713
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 12: you write the song?

1714
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 8: Like what if you make a song?

1715
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: You have to do? You have to do a recognizable

1716
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: song that people know, like bust a move already.

1717
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 7: No, we can't. Rapping is a cop out.

1718
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 4: It has to be like, you have to have a

1719
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 4: melody sing. I can't stress enough. How are you going

1720
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 4: to do?

1721
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 7: No ability, whether it's good or not.

1722
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you've ever heard anybody sing, but I

1723
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 4: know you cannot.

1724
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: You have to channel your car. That's the whole reason.

1725
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,440
Speaker 7: For the definitely channel some Sinatra.

1726
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 4: The whole reason for the joke that I was going

1727
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 4: to sing reasons at my wedding to my wife was

1728
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 4: that she knew, like, you can't do that, and then

1729
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 4: I just kept saying it. I think at one point

1730
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: she started thinking, he's really going to do this. This

1731
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: is going to be humiliating.

1732
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 8: Such a special girl?

1733
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 4: Said, is this the time? Reason?

1734
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna have to shut me down. We're going

1735
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: to have a single contest, all right, participation.

1736
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 4: So like a virgin was that was a hit for me?

1737
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 4: And on karaoke that's seven mill of lights deep.

1738
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 8: Geez, beat the girls away after that.

1739
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 4: I can't do that anymore, all right?

1740
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 3: Ryan and Ottawa wants to bring up the Athletic article

1741
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: about Woody Johnson. Oh did you guys see this?

1742
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 4: I did not read the article, but I saw some

1743
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: of the clips and they are hilarious.

1744
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 3: So what is he using Madden ratings? Now to Jerry Judy?

1745
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 4: Right, he did not want to take a trade for

1746
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy because he didn't feel like his Madden rating

1747
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: was high enough.

1748
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: That can't be true. That's really It makes for great,

1749
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: part makes for great.

1750
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 12: So is he playing Madden and he was aware of

1751
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 12: his rating?

1752
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 8: I'm speculating?

1753
01:18:59,120 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 3: Or was he?

1754
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 8: Did he go to Madden?

1755
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 4: It's like I gotta check the right evidently. He also

1756
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 4: they made a trade. Who do they make the truth?

1757
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,879
Speaker 8: Who Grandpa Jerry Judy?

1758
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 12: He stinks, all right, thanks Billy.

1759
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 4: I forget who they made a trade with, or maybe

1760
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 4: they didn't end up making the trade, but they wanted

1761
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: the seventh round pick mister irrelevant, and he didn't want

1762
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: to trade that. He traded. He said, give him a

1763
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 4: higher seventh round pick because we need to draft the

1764
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 4: next Rock Party. Gez like with mister.

1765
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,440
Speaker 12: Irrelevanable logic.

1766
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 4: Sound sounds logic, like Fred says, I mean, I find it.

1767
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 4: You know, I was on Twitter this morning reading some

1768
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 4: of these you know posts. I was dying laughing. But

1769
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a little like Fred. I'm like, this

1770
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 4: can't It's like someone's got to be setting him up.

1771
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,879
Speaker 4: This can't be completely true.

1772
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 3: There's plenty of people, Ben writes in he says, according

1773
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: to five oh six sports dot Com, the Patriots Bills

1774
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: game is the national game at four to twenty five?

1775
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 3: Is that because of Josh.

1776
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 4: Allen or on CBS? You mean, I don't know what's what,

1777
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: because I don't think CBS technically Bills a national game.

1778
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 3: But they both networks have a game that goes beyond

1779
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,480
Speaker 3: the regions.

1780
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's only three games at four to twenty five

1781
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 12: this week. It's Jacksonville, Vegasi. Yeah, in Minnesota at Seattle,

1782
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 12: which probably I mean that's better, that's the best game of.

1783
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 8: All of them.

1784
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, So that's interesting.

1785
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 4: I mean there had to be a reason why they

1786
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 4: put it in there, Like why why they changed now?

1787
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: I know they lost inventory because the Christmas games and

1788
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:39,799
Speaker 4: they needed an extra four o'clock.

1789
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 12: But the Christmas games coming up?

1790
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 8: So how do we do picks?

1791
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean not the Christmas game. There's Saturday games this week.

1792
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,799
Speaker 4: I meant this Saturday.

1793
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 12: Do we do two picks on Tuesday and then we

1794
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 12: make the rest of them Thursdays?

1795
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 5: That will do for picks.

1796
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 4: We'll pick on Tuesday. Everything everything on Tuesday. Be prepared

1797
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 4: to be ready, Alexandra. That means you need to be

1798
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 4: here Tuesday to Christmas Eve.

1799
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 7: I don't think there's any community events, so we need

1800
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 7: the desk.

1801
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 3: Kyle from Pembroke. I don't think this is going to

1802
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: be a fun weekend for Patriots fans. I predict the

1803
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 3: Bills will win fifty two to seventeen. With this game

1804
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: being the epitome of what the season has been. I've

1805
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 3: been on the give Mayo a second year trained, but

1806
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 3: after last week and how these last three games could go,

1807
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get on the fence.

1808
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 12: Be interesting if they're sneaky competitive in this one, because

1809
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 12: I don't think anybody's really expecting it. I think everybody's

1810
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 12: just kind of holding their nose and all right, let's

1811
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 12: just get through it.

1812
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe I just feel like it's all

1813
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 4: about Buffalo. I really do.

1814
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what the Patriots.

1815
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you could watch the game and

1816
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 4: change your opinion, like, wow, no, the Patriots just played

1817
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 4: really well. But like my guess is you're gonna look

1818
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 4: at Buffalo in this game and say their heart didn't

1819
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 4: really seem to be in it.

1820
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1821
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 4: If it's that.

1822
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, right right.

1823
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: Dave Jones writes in Yesterday, Paul suggested that drafting a

1824
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: wide receiver top cornerback would produce the same results. I disagree.

1825
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 3: A top tight end would improve the offense dramatically, giving

1826
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: may an open target while taking pressure off the other receivers.

1827
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: Adding a corner wouldn't change the defense without supplementing the

1828
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 3: D line. Could they sign both a top corner and

1829
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: a top wide receiver, and free agency there may be

1830
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: trade down to build the roster.

1831
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you kind of took something a step

1832
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 4: beyond what I was saying. I just feel like they

1833
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 4: need every they need everything. So if they have a

1834
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 4: great player, I want to take a great player, I

1835
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: don't care what position he plays, Like you want to

1836
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 4: tell me a wide receive, Like I don't think one

1837
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver is going to completely transform the offense, but

1838
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 4: you get two shut down corners, Yeah, that might, that

1839
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 4: might help transform your defense. I would disagree with that.

1840
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 4: Premis a little bit.

1841
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

1842
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 3: Dave in Madrid writ sid, how much can we realistically

1843
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 3: learn from the quote young guys in three games? Like

1844
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: if Cole Strange, Caden Wallace or Poke or a Baker play, well,

1845
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: do you really feel like that is enough to not

1846
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: consider that position a need?

1847
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 4: No, No, that's not what anyone is hoping to see

1848
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 4: young players for. Like they're gonna have needs going forward anyway.

1849
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 4: They're just trying to see how many needs they have

1850
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 4: going forward. Like Jalen Polk, what if you know, I

1851
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 4: think the horses out of the barn on that. But

1852
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 4: like let's just say for arguments that he caught like

1853
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 4: eight passes each of the last three games. You wouldn't

1854
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: look at that and say, maybe maybe I got to.

1855
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: At least he's done it.

1856
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 4: I got a two three here, you know, in the making.

1857
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:35,440
Speaker 3: All right, Evan has sat down, Evan.

1858
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Has returned, Evan has we turned?

1859
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 13: Has we turned?

1860
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 4: Rom pact?

1861
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: All right? Evan? What do we got?

1862
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 5: Only so many of those left? You know, you start

1863
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 5: to count down and you start to think about it.

1864
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: Get sad.

1865
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 5: It's a little sad. Yeah, I'm gonna miss the song.

1866
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll just play it in the off season, just fun. Anyways,

1867
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 5: out of practice today, some good, some bad. Kyle Duggar

1868
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 5: back at Patriots practice on Thursday. But Christian Barmore absent

1869
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 5: from practice today, so that could still be part of

1870
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 5: this whole management situation with him that he's sitting out

1871
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 5: Thursdays still, So we'll see what that is on the

1872
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 5: injury report and still know Marcus Jones or Jamichael Hasty.

1873
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 5: So Marcus Jones is dealing with a hip injury and

1874
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 5: he has now missed two straight practices, so I would

1875
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 5: start thinking about him not playing on Sunday at this point.

1876
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 4: Oh, it did also say illness though, right, No, that.

1877
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 12: Was with Doug Oh, okay, Doug had a mask on

1878
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 12: today's Yeah.

1879
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Marcus Jones does worry me a little bit.

1880
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I mean I in two ways. I mean,

1881
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: obviously with punt returning, but uh, I also think, you know,

1882
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: he's he's done okay on defense, and I think he's

1883
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 3: a loss there. I mean, it's not like they have

1884
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 3: all this depth.

1885
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 4: It's definitely a lot. They don't have any yeah ever,

1886
01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: any corners.

1887
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good matchup for him against Khalil Shakir.

1888
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, it's I think a guy

1889
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 5: that he could actually you know, do pretty well. Again,

1890
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 5: so to not have him it probably is a pretty

1891
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 5: big blow to them.

1892
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so let's get into it. Other than

1893
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: the absences, the stuff, what did you see, not just

1894
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 3: who you didn't see.

1895
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 5: I didn't see much of anything different. I would say

1896
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 5: today pretty much the same general stuff. You know, Ben

1897
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 5: Brown still at center.

1898
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I haven't.

1899
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 5: Really seen the line over the last two days look

1900
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 5: any differently than what it did in Arizona, So I

1901
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 5: would expect it to remain in the same as long

1902
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 5: as that's consistent tomorrow. So it sounds to me like

1903
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 5: Cole Strange is still work in progress at center, and

1904
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 5: I wonder how much they're way. He's never played center

1905
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 5: in an NFL game, not even preseason or anything. Uh

1906
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 5: so maybe this is like a next year project that

1907
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 5: really start to ramp him up at center. And then

1908
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,719
Speaker 5: Caden Wallace spoke a little bit today and it sounds

1909
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 5: like he was dealing with some significant injuries you know

1910
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 5: when he was out, so he's still in the process

1911
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 5: of getting himself back too.

1912
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 3: Okay, so don't look for them anytimes.

1913
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't expect that, you know, Wallace, I think

1914
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 5: is maybe possible by the end of the year. And

1915
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 5: I'm just like, you know, guessing, but I don't necessarily

1916
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 5: look at it and say they're immediately ready to you know,

1917
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 5: they're gonna be starting in this game on Sunday.

1918
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: So Deuce was talking about a jovial locker room today,

1919
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 3: would you said, would you say that that carried on

1920
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:42,839
Speaker 3: to the field.

1921
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 5: Well, everyone's in the Christmas spirit. I think that that helps.

1922
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of the players were pleasantly

1923
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 5: surprised that it was not that cold outside the last

1924
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 5: couple of days. I think that's that's been.

1925
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 3: Too much talk about the weather.

1926
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 5: That's been the vibe is that it's not it's it's

1927
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 5: unseasonably warm out there today. You know it's like almost

1928
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 5: fifty I think, is that right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1929
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 5: especially in the sun. Yeah, it was nice.

1930
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 3: Well that's that's good for them, but as we know,

1931
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: Sunday is going to be a lot different.

1932
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 5: That's true, that's true. Got to start getting them in

1933
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 5: like the the igloos or something.

1934
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you guys, got your layers that.

1935
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

1936
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm ready to the press box.

1937
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 5: Freezy the press box.

1938
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 3: It's open air. Well people don't know, but it actually

1939
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: press box. It's kind of a weird route or route

1940
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 3: to get from where the buses leave us off to

1941
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: the press box. It's outdoors and you have to kind

1942
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 3: of go around the back of the building. So you

1943
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 3: guys in the backside, you have to be ready. You

1944
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 3: know you're gonna be cold if you're not dressed right.

1945
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 5: You also have to be ready to go out there

1946
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 5: with Bill's mafia, which is right that it's the reporters. No, no,

1947
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 5: that's also they don't throw stuff at you. I wouldn't

1948
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 5: put that out in the air. But when you walk,

1949
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 5: especially after the game, when you're trying to hustle down

1950
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 5: to locker room and you're literally going through the.

1951
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: Mob, then it's coming traffic out of the game.

1952
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 5: And Bill's Mafia, as you know, is not afraid to

1953
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 5: throw some insults towards them.

1954
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,480
Speaker 7: But how do they know your affiliation?

1955
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 5: It's not like they just they also they know which

1956
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 5: one they know.

1957
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 4: They probably they probably know all the guys.

1958
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 6: When you go to like a college sports game and

1959
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 6: there's a group of hecklers that have read the whole

1960
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,480
Speaker 6: roster and all the personal.

1961
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 7: Sales are doing the report.

1962
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Just doing this. Used to have a guy that worked

1963
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: for us.

1964
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Leave my woman. That's what they do in high school,

1965
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 4: I know.

1966
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 3: We used to have a guy work for us. He

1967
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 3: had several palsy, so when he walked, you know, it

1968
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 3: was kind of a struggle. And after one of the games,

1969
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: it snowed like crazy, and where he was walking was

1970
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: really icy and slippery, and he fell and dropped us

1971
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 3: laptop because he had it, you know, in his arm,

1972
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 3: and people just kind of walked over him and so

1973
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: where were your gloves? Yeah? Right, They just like making

1974
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 3: fun of him, so he gets on the plane. I

1975
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 3: didn't know all this happened, and he opens his laptop

1976
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: and it's just smashed. The poor kid, like what happened?

1977
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 3: Actually even actually.

1978
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,879
Speaker 4: Ill Eddie Tucks we got when we got back, Shane,

1979
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 4: did you fool down in Buffalo? It was like three

1980
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 4: days later? Like you you couldn't help him up?

1981
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 5: That's mean. Yeah, that's actually mean.

1982
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 3: But that's that's Buffalo.

1983
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 4: It might have been that. It might have been the

1984
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 4: TI log game. Oh yeah, it could might have been

1985
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 4: the game that we flew home in the bad weather

1986
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 4: and they got off the plane.

1987
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 3: They could have been I mean, he didn't have that

1988
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: many seasons with us, and yeah, so that was probably right,

1989
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 3: all right, anything else you want to bestow upon us?

1990
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: No, No, that was pretty much it.

1991
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 3: Media behaving today.

1992
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 5: Media.

1993
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 3: They gave out the good Guy Award yesterday. Jonathan Jones.

1994
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no idea about that.

1995
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 8: But the good guy he sprung on us.

1996
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 5: Yeah he's a good guy, no doubt about that. Yeah, nothing, no,

1997
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 5: nothing really really big.

1998
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 3: The media on Thursdays, they do not know. Why is that?

1999
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 4: Why do they just went.

2000
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: On Wednesday and not Thursday and Friday?

2001
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 5: Well usually Wednesday usually Wednesday is a busier day because

2002
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 5: Drake Durrod, you know, quarterback, head coach press conferences. Yeah,

2003
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 5: so there's usually a bigger contingent. I would say, I

2004
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 5: would want.

2005
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 3: To encourage the media to come down all days, and

2006
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 3: so that's.

2007
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 4: The way they did it in the sixties, So we're

2008
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 4: going to keep doing it that way. The other team's

2009
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 4: coaching quarterback would be available on conference calls, right they don't.

2010
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about that.

2011
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 5: So I missed that, not the player, but the coach.

2012
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 5: I thought it was always valuable to get the coach

2013
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 5: from the other team, especially talking about the players on

2014
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 5: the Patriots, because you get a little bit more of

2015
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 5: like a candid response of like you've been scouting these

2016
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 5: guys the last couple of days, Like what do you

2017
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 5: actually think of Drake? May you know, I think that's

2018
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 5: about it.

2019
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 4: Josh Allen had a really nice comment on Drake. Yeah,

2020
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 4: you know, like that kind of stuff, and I know

2021
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 4: that's like, that's what you do. But I think that

2022
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 4: kind of content Back in the.

2023
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: Day, I might have had a question to two that

2024
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 3: I threw into a certain Jets coach. You know, gotcha

2025
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 3: quesch questions.

2026
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 5: But they didn't like you too much.

2027
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 4: No, no, Fred and I both know I used to

2028
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 4: for a while.

2029
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 5: I used to love the coaches and opposing coaches because

2030
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 5: you know, not throwing stones. But Bill was not exactly

2031
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 5: an open book right when they came when it came

2032
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 5: to football stuff. So to talk to their coaches and

2033
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 5: I asked them like x's and those questions, they would

2034
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 5: usually give you pretty color for answers, and it was cool.

2035
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 5: It was cool to pick their brands about it.

2036
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 3: Okay, what time is it? Oh? Geez, I just lost

2037
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: track of time here reading emails and listening to Evan.

2038
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 3: So it is that time of the week?

2039
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:07,520
Speaker 5: Is that time.

2040
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 4: On the show?

2041
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 7: What the show?

2042
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 4: Snow?

2043
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:15,959
Speaker 2: It's really dreamy because there's.

2044
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 8: A game on the road.

2045
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 9: Separate the boys from the many.

2046
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Look on the week?

2047
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 12: Hurry, what's the spread up again?

2048
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 4: This is the song Jimmy's a Week.

2049
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 3: We gottas that zaydit.

2050
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 4: Kind of look you at home?

2051
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 7: I don't like that, all right, We're gonna need to

2052
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 7: keep that.

2053
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 4: Tell you something else we like. There's the picks and

2054
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 4: the young man to my right is on what I

2055
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 4: would call.

2056
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 3: A heater right here for teen in two.

2057
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 4: Wow, on the heels of like fifteen and one and

2058
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 4: you absolutely too.

2059
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 10: Uh.

2060
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Next was Mike, Alex and Paul at thirteen and three,

2061
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 4: Fred don't fret monfrere twelve and four, nothing to be ashamed.

2062
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 3: About it, Yeah, but still bringing up the rear.

2063
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 4: Correct, that's an F and the curve with the spread Evan,

2064
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 4: Paul and Fred eleven and five, Alex nine and seven,

2065
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 4: Mike eight and eight.

2066
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,480
Speaker 8: You're struggling with the spread, misread.

2067
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you touch.

2068
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 4: All right, Let's see if I can do this right

2069
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 4: the first time. Now the overall Evan one fifty eight

2070
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 4: and sixty six, Alex one fifty two and seventy two,

2071
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 4: Paul one, forty nine and seventy five, Mike one forty

2072
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 4: eight and seventy six, Fred one forty five and seventy nine.

2073
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: Well all behind.

2074
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 3: There, Yeah.

2075
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 4: Poop emoji which reminds me jeweles. Make sure I send

2076
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 4: those to you today.

2077
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

2078
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 4: With the spread Evan one twenty eight, ninety two and four,

2079
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 4: Fred second one twenty six, ninety four and four, Paul

2080
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 4: one twenty five, ninety five and four, Mike won twenty three,

2081
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 4: ninety seven and four. And poop emoji Alex one eighteen

2082
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 4: one oh, two and four is what happened?

2083
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 10: You were?

2084
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: You were?

2085
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 4: He was running away with friends.

2086
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 8: Well, listen, look at this, look at him.

2087
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't. That wasn't that wasn't destined to

2088
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 4: a last Come.

2089
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 8: On, hurtful. I appreciate it. That's good, that's good stuff.

2090
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's go Thursday night.

2091
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I have one more update

2092
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 4: to add. Oh my folks, this is your lock of

2093
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 4: the week. It picks once again, went one and one

2094
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 4: for Fred. He won with newallans correct, taking the seven

2095
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 4: and a half points. Courageous He lost, however, by picking

2096
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 4: the Patriots out right and stupid two and three on

2097
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 4: this ship.

2098
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it that was a giveaway pick. I

2099
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't call that a courageous pick that I'm going down

2100
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 3: with the ship. Captain must go down with his ship,

2101
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 3: all right. Eight fifteen, Thursday Night. Good matchup nine and

2102
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 3: five Broncos against the eight and six Chargers. Big playoff

2103
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 3: implications here.

2104
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 4: The lack by two and a half.

2105
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 12: Woh, that's a close spread.

2106
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 3: It's a tough one. We gotta hurry.

2107
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is a close one. I'm gonna take the

2108
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 12: lack at home. We gotta hurry and I'm gonna I'm

2109
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 12: gonna lay the two and a half. I was tempted

2110
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 12: by the four and a half, but I'm gonna lay

2111
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 12: the two and a half.

2112
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, black Lack, so Fred. Even though the Broncos are

2113
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 5: on the road, this is essentially a Denver home game

2114
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 5: because that crowd is it really is.

2115
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, if you're gonna put him on the road,

2116
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 3: put him in so far so it's like a home game. Yeah,

2117
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. Never fails.

2118
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 4: Everyone just throws Kerosene on the fire.

2119
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 5: This is a tough one. The Chargers defense got shredded

2120
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 5: last week by Baker Mayfield. I wasn't expecting that. I'm

2121
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 5: gonna take the Chargers, though, I'll take them both ways.

2122
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 5: I think this is a bounced back game for that

2123
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 5: defense against a rookie quarterback.

2124
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take Denver, damn it. I think I'll

2125
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 4: be rooting for the Whack, but I think Denver's will

2126
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 4: playing a little bit better right now.

2127
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where Paul, You're right, Denver wins this game.

2128
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 4: I'm not that right. I'm in the middle of but

2129
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 4: this is where.

2130
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 3: The feel for the league comes into play, and if

2131
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 3: you truly do have a feel for the league, you

2132
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 3: pick Denver in this game. So and that's what I'm

2133
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 3: gonna do.

2134
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna have one for all right.

2135
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 3: We got a couple of games on Saturday, the first

2136
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 3: ones at one o'clock and NBC Telemundo in Universo. The

2137
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,839
Speaker 3: nine to five Texans are at the thirteen and one Chiefs.

2138
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 4: No Peacock.

2139
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh and he got come on.

2140
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 4: I hadn't realized it was on Texans at Chiefs beautiful

2141
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 4: spread here Kansas City by three and a half.

2142
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 3: They know what they know at home three and a half.

2143
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 12: That means even what's the latest on ma homie.

2144
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 4: We're still in I wonder what they do. Think he's

2145
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:23,719
Speaker 4: trying to play. I think he's planning on playing.

2146
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 8: You know what. I'm gonna take Houston in this one.

2147
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh right, yep, Wow.

2148
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 12: I think homes a little GIMPI just knocks them off

2149
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 12: of their style of how they've been winning, and Houston's

2150
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 12: needs it.

2151
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Houston.

2152
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: Wow.

2153
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 3: Is for the Chiefs of the Bills.

2154
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna split the baby, casey take.

2155
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 3: The point, is that a real thing?

2156
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 6: I know we say, right, yeah, the Bible story where yeah,

2157
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 6: I'm not going to get into it, but.

2158
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, sounds violent.

2159
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 3: It is.

2160
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 4: That's why it's real now the Old Testaments.

2161
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 3: Football.

2162
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 5: I uh so, First of all, I'm usually on Paul's

2163
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 5: side of the street when it comes to like the Reps.

2164
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 5: I don't think favor of the Chiefs as much as

2165
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 5: everybody else does. Mahomes though, Mahomes is kind of a

2166
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 5: little baby like he does this all the time or

2167
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 5: he's like, oh my ankle, and then like he's totally fine.

2168
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 5: Chiefs Chiefs. I think Mahomes plays and I think that

2169
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: they win the game.

2170
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 8: It's hard argue with him. He's on a bender.

2171
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna stick with my trends. I'm gonna take

2172
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 4: Kansas City to win the game, but I'll take the hook.

2173
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 4: I have not lost on the Kansas City spread in

2174
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 4: a while. I'm gonna take take the hook.

2175
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm actually hoping the Chiefs win this game, and I'm

2176
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 3: picking the Chiefs to win this game. And the reason

2177
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 3: why I'm hoping the Chiefs win because if they lose

2178
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 3: and they get that second loss, it's gonna make the

2179
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 3: Bills play that much tougher, and it's gonna be that

2180
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 3: much harder for the Patriots to pull off the upset.

2181
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm hoping the Chiefs win to keep that two game cushions.

2182
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 4: See, I'm hoping they do that too, because that will

2183
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 4: eliminate the possibility, if they can win the next game,

2184
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 4: right of them moving the last game right game time?

2185
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,240
Speaker 4: All right, casey both ways?

2186
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Saturday four thirty, Denver, Fox and Fox Deportes. The

2187
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 3: ten and four Steelers are at the nine and four Ravens.

2188
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 4: So this game is on Fox. You said, yes, it

2189
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 4: is Ravens by six and a half.

2190
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 8: Big spread, big big spread Steelers.

2191
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2192
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 12: George Pickens has been out and I think T. J.

2193
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 8: Watt was back at practice this week.

2194
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 12: But you know what I'm I think Pittsburgh will start

2195
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 12: trending down. I'm gonna take Balltimore and I'm gonna actually

2196
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 12: lay all six and a half points too.

2197
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

2198
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 12: You know I'm local.

2199
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 7: The baby again.

2200
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna do the same thing as Alex

2201
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 5: Division game. They always play each other to. I think

2202
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 5: Ravens win, but Steelers, Steelers cover.

2203
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pittsburgh owns Baltimore for whatever reason. But I kind

2204
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 4: of think I'm gonna go Baltimore both ways. I think

2205
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 4: Juice is onto something here. I feel like Pittsburgh might

2206
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 4: start unraveling. They did not look good in that game

2207
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 4: last week.

2208
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing as Alex and

2209
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 3: Evan split the Baby Ravens win, but they do not cover. Still,

2210
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 3: give me I got I gotta give my respect to

2211
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 3: the Steelers. So all right, Now we move to Sunday

2212
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 3: one o'clock on Fox. The two and twelve Giants are

2213
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 3: at the seven and seven Falcons with Michael Pennox Michael

2214
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 3: Big game.

2215
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Falcons by eight and a half.

2216
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 12: Oh geez, that sounds like a lot of points.

2217
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 4: Eight and a half.

2218
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll take Atlanta.

2219
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 12: I'll take those points. Though for the Giants is figure

2220
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 12: it'll be close mistakes from a rookie quarterback in his

2221
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 12: first start.

2222
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, My thinking is the same as Mike's.

2223
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 5: I would love to see the Giants win this game

2224
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 5: for the sake the draft pick. But I am gonna

2225
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 5: say Atlanta wins. But I agree with the the board

2226
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 5: over there. I think that a rookie quarterback in his

2227
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 5: first start, I don't see him covering that spread.

2228
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am going to take Atlanta both ways. I

2229
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 4: think they're going to get a jolt from the rookie

2230
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: quarterback coming in and the Giants are done.

2231
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 3: One thing Dave Oll did learn from Bill Belichick is

2232
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 3: how to coach against a rookie quarterback.

2233
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 4: Falcons win, but don't cover right exactly. You got it, Fox.

2234
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 3: At one o'clock, the seven and seven Cardinals coming off

2235
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 3: a huge win against the three and eleven Panthers.

2236
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 4: Arizona by four and a half.

2237
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 8: It's an interesting little game.

2238
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 4: Here, interesting little game. Interesting.

2239
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm gonna take Arizona to win, but I'll take

2240
01:41:54,720 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 12: those points are Carolina. Let's put the baby me too.

2241
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 5: This is a weird one. I'm gonna take Arizona both ways.

2242
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 5: I just think they're a better team. And the Carolina

2243
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 5: Panthers let me down last week big time. I thought

2244
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 5: that they played terribly against the Cowboys to get blown

2245
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 5: out like that.

2246
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 4: They really did, but I say they bounced back. I'm

2247
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 4: gonna take Arizona to win the game, but Panthers keep

2248
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 4: it close, folks.

2249
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 3: As a lot of teams do when after playing the Patriots.

2250
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 3: They have a letdown. So I'm gonna go Panthers outright

2251
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 3: to win this game. Not a lock, though, that's not

2252
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 3: your lock now, not one of my One o'clock on Fox,

2253
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: the twelve and two Lions are at the four and

2254
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 3: ten Bears.

2255
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 4: Detroit by six and a half.

2256
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 8: Oh dear, do you feel bad for Chicago on this one.

2257
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,440
Speaker 12: I'm gonna take Detroit all of the points.

2258
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 7: Me too, a little bounce back for the Lions.

2259
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 5: I'm starting to feel a little sympathy for Kayleb Williams

2260
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 5: at this point, like he just looks so defeated, his

2261
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 5: body language, all that kind of stuff. I agree, Detroit

2262
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 5: color Detroit, Detroit definitely. And I don't know what's gonna

2263
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 5: happen with Caleb. You know he's got a long way

2264
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 5: to go.

2265
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Detroit both ways.

2266
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit both ways as well.

2267
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 3: Now see, if I wasn't courageous, I could say, oh,

2268
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 3: this is my lock, but this is too easy, so

2269
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't do that. I don't do the easy ones

2270
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 3: as locks.

2271
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 5: It's very big of you, fearless leader.

2272
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 3: One o'clock CBS, the three and eleven Titans are at

2273
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 3: the six and eight Colts.

2274
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph Right.

2275
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed by three and a half. Yes, we'll Levi's

2276
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 4: was benched again.

2277
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's gross, klutts. I don't want to watch this game.

2278
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 12: I'll take the Colts at home, and I'll just i'll

2279
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 12: lay the points when.

2280
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 7: On Colts Colts, I guess.

2281
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to take the Colts both ways.

2282
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 5: I just they both kind of stink. But I think

2283
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:54,719
Speaker 5: the Colt stink less.

2284
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 4: I would agree with that, and I know, go with

2285
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 4: the same pick both ways.

2286
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 3: I think the Titans have been mandated to lose. I

2287
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:07,520
Speaker 3: think they they really they don't want to win. CBS

2288
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 3: one o'clock, the eight and six Rams are at the

2289
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 3: four and ten Jets.

2290
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 4: The lar by three.

2291
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,719
Speaker 12: Still, Yeah, I'm gonna take that one. I'll take the Rams.

2292
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:19,839
Speaker 12: I'll lay the points.

2293
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 5: ROMs ROMs like by three, Like have they watched the

2294
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 5: Jets this year? Rams, Rams like, come on, give me

2295
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 5: a break.

2296
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 4: Offense has been good the last two weeks. Yeah, okay,

2297
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.

2298
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 5: I know, it's just it's annoying. Jets get so much respect.

2299
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 4: I'll take the both ways.

2300
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Jets to cover. They get the

2301
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 3: right and Clark bounce this week. Uh so that's my

2302
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 3: lock of the week, folks. Jets cover against the Rams.

2303
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 4: Oh, Jets cover. Lock of the week.

2304
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 3: Been a different little ap That's courageous, right.

2305
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 4: You are nothing if not courageous.

2306
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: One o'clock on Fox.

2307
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 4: You're put up with me for twenty six years.

2308
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 3: The twelve and two Eagles are at the nine and

2309
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 3: five Commanders.

2310
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 4: The Eagles by three and a half.

2311
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 5: Good game.

2312
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 8: I like that.

2313
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 12: I like that.

2314
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:17,879
Speaker 8: I like the Eagles.

2315
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 12: I like the Eagles in this one, and I'm gonna

2316
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 12: lay the points too, Philly, Philly.

2317
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the Eagles both ways. In this game too.

2318
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 5: Feels a little bit like the Baltimore Chargers game, where

2319
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 5: it's just like one team is just kind of in

2320
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 5: a different class, even though the Commanders have had a

2321
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 5: nice season.

2322
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've thought a lot about taking that hook, but

2323
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm not going to. The Eagles are playing too well,

2324
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 4: and I think Washington's offense is going down. The Eagles

2325
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 4: defense is going up.

2326
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 3: Classic Cliff Eagles, Eagles both ways, Class one o'clock CBS

2327
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 3: three and eleven Browns at the six and eight Bengals.

2328
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 4: Fred's Bengals by seven and a half.

2329
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 12: And Dacey Jamis is out.

2330
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 4: Now it's DTR's DTR right, Yeah, he's got benched.

2331
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna take Cinci.

2332
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 4: Oh really, everyone told me he was because I'm like,

2333
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 4: I'm like unlike the national media who suddenly decided he's

2334
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 4: not a bad guy. He is a good player. He

2335
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:12,839
Speaker 4: got benched like four.

2336
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 12: Games Cincinnati both ways since he since he.

2337
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 4: So.

2338
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: I do think Burrow is a little banged up in

2339
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 5: this game as well. But I'm still gonna take the

2340
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 5: Bengals both ways. And the Bengals they don't really have

2341
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,839
Speaker 5: a chance to make the playoffs, right, they do.

2342
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 4: But they need they need you know, he they need help.

2343
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:33,759
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's so Bengals.

2344
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 4: They're probably gonna go nine to eight, but they're gonna

2345
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,759
Speaker 4: need help. I'm definitely taking the Bengals to win the game.

2346
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna lay the points to I

2347
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 4: I don't like laying more than a touchdown with that

2348
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 4: Bengals defense though, I don't care who's playing for Cleveland,

2349
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna do it Cincinnati both ways.

2350
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 3: I gotta go Bengals both ways as much as it

2351
01:46:53,920 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 3: kills me. Yeah, four, four, five on Fox, twelve and

2352
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 3: two Vikings at the eight and six Seahawks.

2353
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 4: Uh Minnesota by three.

2354
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 12: Minnesota by three, maeah man, they're rolling. Its just it's

2355
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 12: just hard to pick against Minnesota. I'm gonna take them

2356
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 12: on laya points in Seattle, me too.

2357
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 5: Coach of the Year Kevin O'Connell, and I don't think

2358
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 5: it's really particularly close. I mean, the go twelve and

2359
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 5: two with Sam Darnold is incredible. I'm gonna take the

2360
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 5: Vikings both ways in this game.

2361
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 4: Okay, everybody took Minnesota both ways. Yes I am as well.

2362
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 3: You didn't ask me, you're after me, Okay, So now

2363
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Vikings both ways. Okay, okay. Four

2364
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 3: to twenty five, three and eleven Jaguars at the two

2365
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 3: and twelve Raiders.

2366
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 5: Big game, big, big, big game.

2367
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 3: This big draft game.

2368
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 4: Rough Vegas by one.

2369
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 3: So so if the Patriots end in a time with

2370
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 3: the Raiders, who gets.

2371
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:06,520
Speaker 5: The ads the strength of schedule stuff.

2372
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 12: I'm gonna I'm gonna make this a Patriots pick. I'm

2373
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 12: gonna take Jacksonville. I can't believe I'm doing it, but

2374
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 12: I think be good for the Pats. Jot pick take it.

2375
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the Raiders, but it's like a coin

2376
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 6: flip one for me.

2377
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 5: I am going to take the Raiders as well. Although

2378
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 5: they stink. I think they are still playing hard, as

2379
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 5: Paul likes to say, I still have.

2380
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 4: One of the rare teams that's actually playing hard.

2381
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 5: I feel like against Atlanta, like that should have been

2382
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 5: a blowout, and they kind of lingered.

2383
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 4: They lingered that game.

2384
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the Raiders in this game, and

2385
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 5: I don't know why other than.

2386
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 4: That, I'm gonna take the Raiders as well.

2387
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 3: Me too. Raiders.

2388
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 5: The fact that you and I watched that game, Paul,

2389
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 5: it says a lot about her.

2390
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't I just couldn't sleep.

2391
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 3: Four five CBS, six and eight forty nine ers at

2392
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 3: the six and eight Dolphins.

2393
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Miami by one.

2394
01:48:59,080 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 5: That's a cool game.

2395
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 8: That's a cool game.

2396
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 12: I'm gonna play the trends though, Miami. It's only good

2397
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 12: against bad teams, and I guess San Francisco bad team

2398
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 12: this year.

2399
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna take Miami.

2400
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 12: La the point, I'm gonna go with the Sharps.

2401
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the Niners.

2402
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:16,879
Speaker 5: Oh, I do think the Niners are better, but Miami

2403
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 5: at home is usually a pretty good cross country trip

2404
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 5: for San Francisco. So I'm gonna I'm gonna take the

2405
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 5: Dolphins and uh brock perty A not good. Not good.

2406
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Miami.

2407
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Miami. Two. I think that the

2408
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 4: Niners had Super Bowl aspirations and they now realize those

2409
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 4: are gone, and they go across the country, like Evan said,

2410
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 4: and lose Dolphins.

2411
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Dolphins as well. Okay, Now we

2412
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 3: skip over the Patriots at four twenty five, and we

2413
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,440
Speaker 3: go to eight and twenty Sunday Night on NBC Universo

2414
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 3: and Telexito's and Peacock and Peacock, the eight and six

2415
01:49:55,920 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 3: Buccaneers against these six and eight Cowboys. The league starting

2416
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 3: to realize what I've realized a long time ago. The

2417
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 3: league is better with Baker Mayfield in it.

2418
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely.

2419
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 4: When when was the last time he wasn't in it?

2420
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 4: Since he got in it, the league it's a better

2421
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 4: league with BA Tampa by three and a half.

2422
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Baker and I'll take Tampa Bay.

2423
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 3: I lay the points, Tampa Bay by ten and a half,

2424
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 3: three and a half. Oh three and a half, Okay, okay.

2425
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,639
Speaker 5: So the fact that the dabtless Cowboys are on Sunday

2426
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 5: Night Football still and the fact that they're only a

2427
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 5: three and a half point underdog still is crazy. Buccaneers Buccaneers.

2428
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,640
Speaker 5: Liam Cohne, the Bucks offensive coordinator. He's going to be

2429
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 5: in head coaching candidate very soon, maybe even this cycle.

2430
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know why, it's three and a half. They're

2431
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 3: trying to bring in the Tampa money.

2432
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 5: Well, I don't see how you could watch these two

2433
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 5: teams and think that Dallas is going to be closed

2434
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 5: in this game. That's just my opinion, though.

2435
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 3: You're probably right.

2436
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take Tampa both ways.

2437
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. Baker may Field, Let Baker bake.

2438
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 8: Baker bake right, Paul absolutely got our guy.

2439
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 3: I think he's pretty good.

2440
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 4: I don't. That's when we actually disagree.

2441
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 5: But you don't think Baker is good.

2442
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 3: Alex a try hard guy. He doesn't like try hard.

2443
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,480
Speaker 4: He's Baker Mayfield mid.

2444
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 5: He's had like multiple offensive coordinators.

2445
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: I know gonna, I'm gonna just pound it into the ground.

2446
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 5: He's a good player, Fine, Fine.

2447
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 3: He doesn't like him because he tries He's a fine bridge.

2448
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 4: I mean Sam Donald's had a great year too. I

2449
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 4: think he's mid. I think they're very similar guys, Bakers

2450
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: better come on, Oh he had a better year.

2451
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 3: Come on. Yes, I took Buccaneers both ways. Monday Night,

2452
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 3: eight fifteen, ESPN, ABC, ESPN Deportes, the five and nine

2453
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 3: Saints are at the ten and four Packers.

2454
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 4: It was a good one for you.

2455
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 3: Scenes they front loaded all the good games this week.

2456
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 4: Packed by fourteen fourteen. But with all the nonsensical flexing

2457
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 4: they do, why didn't they flex any of these games?

2458
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 12: Fourteen pointer on definitely take Green Bay to win and

2459
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 12: Sugar Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points Dome team going

2460
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:12,919
Speaker 12: outside late decemmer Cane.

2461
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 4: Or or whoever. I don't even Spencer, Spencer Rattler, Archie

2462
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 4: Manning arch.

2463
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 5: I usually don't like taking those monster spreads like this.

2464
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 5: It makes me nervous.

2465
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: I'm going to do it twice this week, but.

2466
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it again. I'm gonna do it again.

2467
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 5: I think the Packers are good team. I like I

2468
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 5: just like the Packers. I like how they're built. Like

2469
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 5: the team.

2470
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 4: Jordan Love is another one of those quarterbacks that would

2471
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 4: have been in that group. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Green Bay.

2472
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 4: I will take with the the crew here.

2473
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 3: Underdog cover of the week.

2474
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 4: Different.

2475
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 3: The Saints cover this spread. They don't win, but they

2476
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,920
Speaker 3: do cover. That's your underdog underdog cover law.

2477
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 4: You have to two of those jobs. I do have

2478
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 4: to both underdog covers. Okay, okay, okay, you could do

2479
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 4: whatever you want, two locks of the same ILK. I love,

2480
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 4: I love. Like late in the Thursday show when we're

2481
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,640
Speaker 4: doing the picks and you look in the in the

2482
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 4: mirror and you look in the glass rather than whit

2483
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 4: Alex is just like dying, rapping at our stupidity, Like

2484
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:18,839
Speaker 4: these guys are really talking about this in these terms.

2485
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 8: Okay, now that's part of the week.

2486
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 3: We go back to four to twenty five, back but

2487
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 3: back to four twenty five right on CBS, the three

2488
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:33,960
Speaker 3: and eleven Patriots at the eleven and three Bills, Buffalo

2489
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 3: by fourteen.

2490
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 12: Oh that's a lot. Yeah, I'm gonna take Buffalo not

2491
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 12: to win and unfortunate, I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points.

2492
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 12: I mean that the Patriots can't score thirty points. Buffalo

2493
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 12: scores three points every week. So that's the bottom line

2494
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 12: for me. I'm gonna take Buffalo, lay the points. My

2495
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 12: score prediction is not important. No, no, predicted Buffalo.

2496
01:53:56,200 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 5: Buffalo the safest thing, honestly, forty one seven. I have

2497
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 5: a tough time envisioning the Patriots defense having a chance

2498
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 5: in this game to slow down Josh Allen. It would

2499
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 5: have to be an uncharacteristically bad Josh Allen game.

2500
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

2501
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 5: The forty six and a half total though, looks nice

2502
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 5: because like the Bills are probably gonna score forty one

2503
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 5: of the forty six, right, so you're gonna get over it.

2504
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm going forty one seventeen Buffalo. It's a

2505
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 5: couple late touchdown drives like last week for the Patriots

2506
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 5: to make this thing look better.

2507
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little worried about the late touchdown thing

2508
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 4: to do the back door cover, but I'm gonna lay

2509
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 4: the points. I just think there's too much offense. I'm

2510
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 4: with I'm with you, guys. I'm gonna go thirty four

2511
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 4: to sixteen.

2512
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Unfortunately, the Bills do win on a back door cover.

2513
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 12: Oh, get that late touchdown put them.

2514
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 3: So it's more competitive game than Paul thinks it will be.

2515
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 12: Why, hey, everybody else, you don't think it's gonna be competitive.

2516
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 10: Me.

2517
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 4: No, I don't.

2518
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 7: Here's what you can give the score prediction.

2519
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty five twenty.

2520
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 4: We haven't picked forty one to seventeen while you.

2521
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 3: Become thirty five twenty Bills win this game.

2522
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 5: Honest.

2523
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 3: We actually have a little bit of time in this game,

2524
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean and left in the show before we moved

2525
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 3: to the catch twenty two. So any closing thoughts as

2526
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 3: we move into uh, this game in Buffalo.

2527
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 5: I am surprised that he didn't bring up Jimney. Seeing

2528
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 5: Josh Allen on Sunday, I thought that that would be,

2529
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 5: you know, right up your alleyies.

2530
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 7: I didn't want to tease you too much.

2531
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 8: Well, Paul, maybe we should tease.

2532
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 4: I could just get just real question. These are I

2533
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 4: didn't do like extensive research on it, but I did

2534
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 4: look back at the defense the breakdown last year between

2535
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 4: the starters and the backups. So they had eleven games

2536
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 4: against starters, they allowed twenty five point five points per

2537
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: game in three hundred and twenty nine yards per game

2538
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 4: in those games. With the six games they played against backups,

2539
01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 4: they allow fourteen point three points a game and only

2540
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty three yards passing, So there was

2541
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 4: a significant difference between when they played starters and when

2542
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 4: they played backups. You know their average for the season,

2543
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 4: they allowed twenty one and a half points per game.

2544
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 4: Against the eleven starters, it was twenty five and a

2545
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 4: half points a game. So it was no small, insignificant

2546
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 4: fact that they played so many backup quarterbacks. And I,

2547
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 4: even as magnanimous as I am deuce, I counted the

2548
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 4: Raiders game as a starter. Even though Garoppolo left that

2549
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 4: game early and Brian Boyer played the rest of the game.

2550
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 4: Who's the backup? I counted that as a starter. What

2551
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm nothing if not I even I counted the Bengals,

2552
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 4: I mean the Chargers game, which was by far the

2553
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 4: season low against real quarterbacks six points and two hundred

2554
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 4: and forty one yards total offense in the pouring rain.

2555
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 4: I counted that because I'm nothing if not fair.

2556
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 12: I was just gonna tease the pre pre and post

2557
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 12: game show the week, we'll have a little change up.

2558
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 4: Why don't you do that?

2559
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 12: That hardy Hearty's back, so tune in two o'clock.

2560
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: You get stuck, You get stuck. I had no idea

2561
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 4: Matt's going with you this week.

2562
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 12: This was Matt's other out and he's going to Buffalo,

2563
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 12: so yeah, Hardy will be back two o'clock o'clock someday.

2564
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 3: I had no idea to yeah, Matt's because Sony asked me,

2565
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 3: what's on the road. MAT's on the road. Who's hosting?

2566
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 3: I go, I gets douse will just fill in, No.

2567
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 4: We got to.

2568
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 3: I can't even watch of course.

2569
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 12: Well the pregame Warks will be something to watch though,

2570
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 12: with the cold weather, and we'll see we'll do like

2571
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 12: Cold Factor, who looks cold, who doesn't look cold?

2572
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll get a call in from from no socks.

2573
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 8: I'll be great.

2574
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am excited for road.

2575
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 3: You can watch the warm ups and then talk about them.

2576
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 4: Yes, party yeah, yeah, kind of like the music is

2577
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 4: that what you were doing?

2578
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you can play the music whatever some time.

2579
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 7: And what's that our new off season project?

2580
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 5: Which is.

2581
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 7: Your go to carry?

2582
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 5: So get ready for that smash mouth?

2583
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

2584
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 5: No one else answered, because it's like it's easy enough

2585
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 5: to do the lyrics, but it's like not there's no

2586
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 5: high notes or anything like that.

2587
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 7: He's higher on this idea.

2588
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 3: I antsicipated something tells me he's a karaoke guy.

2589
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 5: Maybe after a few drinks.

2590
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 3: All right, maybe we'll have to have a drink exactly

2591
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 3: all right, So again, pregame show what time? Two o'clock?

2592
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 3: Postgame right after Catch twenty two Coming up? Sign up

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