WEBVTT - #thisleague UNCUT: Darvin Ham Part II 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.360 Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:09.639 four hour NBA news. This is you, Chris Haynes. It's 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:18.080 so time, part's time, It's so time. This League Uncut 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:23.160 is underway and on fire. This should be a good one. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.959 Good one, just a good one. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.600 We might need to reach out to our friend Tim Kitsrow, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.520 the voice of NBA JAM to maybe amend that, because 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.240 this is a great one. Our visit with Lakers coach 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.240 Darvin Ham, who sat with Chris Haynes and I for 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:48.559 an hour at Caesar's Palace, the iconic Caesar's Palace, a 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:53.040 live interview with Darvin Ham, and he was tremendous and 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.160 open book on so many different subjects. We decided this 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.600 had to be a two part episode. Enjoy Now listen 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.120 into part two, where we talk about all kinds of subjects, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:11.320 including Darvin Ham's plans for Austin Reeves now that Austin 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.400 Reeves is back with the Lakers on a lucrative contract extension. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:21.080 Big plans for Austin Reeves that Darvin Ham explains and reveals, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:26.399 and also he addresses the Lakers rivalry with the so 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:32.160 called Laker Daddy. Nuggets coach Mike Malone. That's all here 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.759 now on this edition of This League Uncut Live from 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:37.560 Las Vegas. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.440 I'm really lucky on my substack. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.759 I have a huge community of Laker fans who are 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.280 readers of my substack, and so they sent me a 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.320 zillion questions to ask you. I'm not gonna ask you 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.320 a zillion, but I gotta ask at least a couple 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.680 so they don't get mad at me. And this one 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.360 is from Kobe Boyd, who we call the green Room Mamba. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.840 That's a long story. I'm not gonna explain that whole thing. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.280 But if I don't ask you for a full breakdown 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.960 of your plans for Austin Reeves and what his future holds, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.880 I will I will never be forgiven. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.160 I'm putting it on record right now. Aust Reeves will 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.280 be an All Star at some point soon. I think 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.160 what you saw him being invited to to be a 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.880 part of the World Cup team, it's the first step 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.320 in that direction. Everything you saw him do last year. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.240 The kid is a flat out competitor, one of the 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.240 greatest human beings you can ever be around. Always fun, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:34.639 keeps things simple, but yet works at his craft. It's 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.560 fearless in the biggest of moments, and my plan is 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.280 to continue to feature him. He's our starting to guard. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.560 I think there's a lot more levels he's going to 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.440 get to before it's all set and done, and he'll 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.440 be all starting a world champion with me in the 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.600 room with him. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.519 Chu go, and then I'll take this back. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.080 Last time we saw each other in person, it was 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.720 the last game you lost against when you got got 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:12.440 swept by the Denver Nuggets and Stein. This is behind 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.520 the scenes, so this is probably two hours after the game. 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.799 I got some news right after that game Lebron that 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.800 he was considering retirement, and I didn't I didn't publish 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.280 the story. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:29.960 I saw d Ham. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.120 I was like, I gotta go tell d Ham before 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.040 I published it. That's just out of respect, No, just 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:37.760 out of respect. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:38.640 I don't want you know. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.480 I know he probably didn't care that. You know, he's 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.200 probably mad. He was with his family at the time. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:43.800 But I pulled d Ham. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.120 To the side. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.680 I was like, d I just want to let you 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.080 know so you're not cut off guard. Momentarily, I'm about 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.920 to publish that Lebron is considering retirement, And I said, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:59.880 did you know anything about that, he said hell no, hell. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.280 You know he said, okay, well, well thank you that 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:03.720 he would all just start taking. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.320 Pictures of the film. Appreciate. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.480 But have you have you spoken to Lebron? 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.040 Most people didn't think he'll really get to that point, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.479 but it's just for me. What it showed me was 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.200 that he's finally thinking in that direction, like the time 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.560 is like we're the time is limited that we're going 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:25.160 to you know. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.680 See That's that's the way I took it. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.240 But have you spoke to Lebron this summer and you know, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.000 moving forward about what the plans are. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.640 Man, me and the King communicate often, and like I 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.240 like I said it, you know, publicly, he has every 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.840 right to feel how he wants to feel. He's done 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.040 nothing but heavy lifting throughout his career. I mean, you're 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.400 talking about somebody with the type of expectations that were 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.360 placed on him coming out of high school to where 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.640 he is now and the guy that's not only met 0:04:54.680 --> 0:05:00.000 the expectations but exceeded them and even recreated the narrati 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.719 of how special he is. And yeah, I'm talking about 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.920 not just heavy lifting for his team trying to win, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.080 have his individual success, but heavy lifting for the league 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.919 where he's taking the league, the NBA as a whole globally, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.640 you know, just one of those ones in the generator, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:22.960 once in the generation type players. I just I just 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.920 felt like, you know, he needed all the time, whatever 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.440 time he needs, and he gets the chance and gets 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.000 he has the right to do what he feels his 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.640 right for Lebron James and his family. Like he's more 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.880 than earned that, and so whatever he's ready, whenever he's 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.599 ready to get back to basketball, he decides he don't 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.160 want to do it no more, and he's totally earned that. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.760 I appreciate him again for what he did for me 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.760 in my first year being in that seat, and the 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.000 support he gave me, and the compliance and again allowing 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.760 himself to be coached, giving me the feedback stepping up 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.279 as a leader. We don't get that far without the 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.040 impact that he made for us as a coaching staff 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.760 and for his teammates and the performances he put forth. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:14.000 And so you know, he, in my opinion, he gets 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.520 he earned the right to do whatever he wants to 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:21.159 do and our respective decision either way, whatever he decides 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:27.600 that the final decision will be. I would anticipate though 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.800 that we hadn't seen the last of the world. We 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.159 got some unfinished business that he and I talked about. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.920 So it's it's, uh, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.120 where he is October third, October second guy ask ask 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.359 some questions on media day whether or not he's in 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.120 the gym or not We in Vegas, right, I'll put 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:47.680 some money on the fact that he might just be 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.880 in that gym come October second. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.760 I'm glad that we are getting your a material on 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.440 July eleventh. So the October second crew we we got, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:57.000 we got a. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.520 Two and a half month head start on that. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.839 Absolutely, we've kept. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.240 You too long. We're only going to do a couple 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.160 of work. This is awesome, this is fantastic. But will 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.120 we would do two hours if we could. I mean, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.600 you are your openness and willing to tell guys. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.920 Some money over here. Decided to take a nap and 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.760 try to forget about it. I mean, it's it's it's 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.320 a cool vot. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.960 We got some stars in the audience. Am and O 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.640 Hasson is over there right there, Keith Smith is over there. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.640 Got a turner man they represented. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.120 Bring out the heavy hitters man. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.040 So Denver has lost Bruce Brown, They've lost Jeff Green. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.320 You guys have have made a serious. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.680 If they lose Jamal Murray, they lose Joker. If they 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.200 didn't lose those two, they really didn't lose a damn thing. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:39.960 So just for the. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.960 Record, so I guess that's my question. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.240 I mean, they love they lost two of their eight 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.320 main rotation guys. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:50.760 That's my long. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.760 Winded way of saying, how Joker decides to retire, go 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.240 back to service. They called me then, no, no disrespect 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.880 the Bruce Jeff. But that's what happens, man, when you 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.640 have a hell of a team, a championship squad. I've 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.720 seen it as a player, seeing it as a coach, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.480 like those high value players, whether starters. Obviously he's not 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.560 gonna lose your main guys, but those rotation guys are 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.440 huge for you. But other people see what the contributions 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.520 they make and increases value and a lot of times 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.520 you're not able to keep them in the fold because 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.760 again their value is get shot through the roof. And 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.760 when you win at the highest level, at the highest level, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.800 like people are gonna be coming for you, man. They 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.240 want those guys to bring that same pedigree to their 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.160 individual franchises. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.360 So how much better would you match up with them 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:43.920 if you had to play them in a series? Now 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.120 with the changes you've made, and they've lost a. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.320 Couple guys, we'll see. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.040 I mean, I think with a lot of what they did, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.640 they had guys from KCP, the Michael Porter and Aaron Gordon, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.760 they had guys Bruce Jeff, they had guys stepping up 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.880 making plays, making big plays. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.520 And so I mean they know who they are. That's 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:02.120 clearly there. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.400 Besides Joe, I think our size that we've added, I 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:10.440 think our basketball IQ, the fearlessness of a gay Denton 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.560 getting you Ruie back, getting Austin back, adding a young 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.200 explosive prospect like Jackson Hayes getting d Lo back, you know, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.920 Cam Reddish, Torrian Prince like. I think we match up 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.120 extremely well now, and it's up to us and it's 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.000 our job now to take all of those names and 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:37.000 translate it, transition it, I should say, from the paper 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.280 to the actual court and getting everyone to lock in 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.360 and buy into what we're doing. I think Scott's will 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.360 be a limit. We'll only go as far as our 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.360 work takes us. Always believe in. 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:52.720 That you mentioned the guys Jackson Hayes still have to 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.640 defend Joker, like you still have to have a body. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.319 I believe Rob Palika said recently that they're they're the 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.520 search for big man. Do you do you believe that 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.319 it's critical that you get another big man, somebody with size, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.600 just in case you have to see Joker in the future. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.120 I mean, no one man is gonna stop Joker. No, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.720 no community of men is gonna stop Joker. You know, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.679 his his points of attack are all over the place, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.000 whether it's the post, whether it's through the elbows where 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.000 there's three point line, him play making making plays, whereas teammates. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:31.200 Same with Jamal. I just think we have to be 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.560 able to fight fire with fire, you know. And the 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.600 big thing about Denver is you can't make can't turn 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.559 the ball over. You have to finish at the rim. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.080 You gotta get to the free throw line and make 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.400 free throws. But you cannot have any what we call 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:51.360 again self inflicted wounds. You can't beat yourself like they're 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:56.480 they're tough. We'll see because you know their core is young, 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.319 They're they're set up to make a run for a 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.320 plenty more years. So what we hope to do is 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.520 again all those guys I mentioned getting get them in 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.280 the gym as quickly as possible and start getting on 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.320 the same page of being able to get a full 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:18.000 training camp well off season open gym training camp, and 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.640 to start the season off with a unified group that's 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.960 highly talented, highly skilled, and we've gotten younger and so 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.360 uh again, being able to fight fire with fire. I 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.880 think it's no one person you can go find that's 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.439 going to stop these guys. You just have a you 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.840 have to have a fully commit, fully committed arsenal to 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:38.400 throw back. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:45.320 At the World Champs, I wanted to ask this question 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.080 coach real quick, Mike, Mike Bootholzer got let go by 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.400 the Bucks. What was your reaction after, you know, not 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.360 too long ago hoisting up a championship for the organization? 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.280 And I guess where's his mindset. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.000 That I mean you're talking about, But it is, you know, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.640 obviously disappointed about that, but I think he's in a 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.160 great place mentally in terms of now you know, having 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.680 some time to really get back to his family and 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.600 and and to really you know, lock in with his 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.320 kids and do different things with its own free time. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.360 It's amazing because it's not just with Bud, but you 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.640 know Manti obviously was ever able to pivot and go 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.600 to Detroit and Nick Nurse Doc rivers like you're talking 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.959 about some high, high level coaches with championship pedigree being 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.320 let go for whatever reason. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:36.080 It's crazy. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.400 My emotions are, it's like, damn, like you even when 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.560 you win, it's not good enough. But this is what 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.360 we sign up for, so you can't. You know, you 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.880 just got to keep putting your best foot forward every 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.920 each and every time you get a chance to wake 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.080 up and and and and be that league guy for 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.000 your team, and you just again, you got to make 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.440 sure you're doing everything possible to not just put yourself, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.080 but you're into group in the position to be successful. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.520 And if someone decides that get into the pinnacle or 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.679 whatever and winning, is that not good enough? And it's 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.760 just not good enough and but someone will appreciate that work. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.360 And as you saw, a couple of those guys were 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.160 able to pivot into different jobs. But yeah, you look 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.400 at it like damn, they fired them, and then you 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.600 turn around and they get Minnie Williams eighty million dollars. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.760 So that's also inspiring. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.520 All of all that's good. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.200 Dudes, Like, oh wow, go ahead, but we got the 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.959 same agent too. Wow. Shout out to Spenser Breacher c 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.360 AA in the building. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.760 What point in your life did you know you want 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.480 to do this? Like twenty it's almost twenty years since 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.040 the Pistons championship. Had I stopped you in the hall 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.480 at the Palace of Auburn Hills and said, if you 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.320 want to coach someday, Like, what would you have said 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:51.280 at that point in your life? 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.480 Come with me, Mark, We're gonna take this drug test. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:56.760 So when was it? 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.120 When was there want to? 0:13:59.360 --> 0:13:59.560 You know? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:00.000 Actually? 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.640 And I remember running into you at the MAVs games 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.080 when I used to do a little work with Fox 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.120 Sports Southwest after it was then known, and then you know, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.560 doing some stuff with the NBA. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.920 TV producers. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.080 Put me audience. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.520 So that was a lot of fun. But one thing 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.240 I realized is like one, how much I missed the 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.680 game and two didn't feel like I was necessary necessarily 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.200 close enough to the competition. It's one thing, like to 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:33.440 analyze the game from that from a neutral perspective, but 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.360 I'm one. I want to be able to pick a side, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.720 and so outside of playing, coaching to me, was the 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.800 next best option and spending four beautiful years in the 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.240 G League was known as the D League then in Albuquerque, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:52.400 New Mexico. And it's funny because the part owners of 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:57.120 the team, the Thunderbirds, who eventually became the majority owners, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.600 Sam and Jackie Brickman, their son Alex breaking the you know, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.120 Perennial All Star for the Houston Astros. I've known him 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.560 since he was twelve thirteen years old. He and I 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.400 have an incredibly He's like a little brother than. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:09.720 Me, man. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.240 So it's crazy the different blessings that comes from those 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:18.040 different situations. And not only me being able to extend, ascend, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.800 you know, to to this position I'm in now, but 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.960 just the competition, man, the spirit of competitiveness, I can't 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.360 get enough of. It's like, that's why, you know, everybody's 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.080 like this. The Lakers may be overwhelming for certain people. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.800 Being in the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:38.520 I embrace all of it like it's it's a total blessing. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.280 It's a challenge that we're in the process of figuring out. 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.080 You know, we went from being an I only want 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.920 to say a laughing stop. But getting us back to 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.400 that credibility as being a top of the food chain 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.400 team in this league and with plenty plenty more room 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.640 to grow and and we're going to grow from everything 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.600 we went through last year and to be able to 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.400 hit the ground running this year and proper form, proper 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.000 order with the guys we've added, guys were able to 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:11.160 bring back, and if Bron decides not to retire, will 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.320 be even stronger and better along with Anthony. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.480 So we're looking forward to it. That's the competition mark 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.000 as a. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.000 Player, though you didn't have these aspirations like you all happened. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:27.600 Aganically, like literally me doing different radio shows and you 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.520 know before it was podcast with doing the radio shows 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.560 and then doing little TV spots. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.000 And I'm like, man, I. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.440 Really missed the game, Like I'm searching in my mind 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.600 how to get more involved in coaching? Was it and 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.760 it just feels like a natural fit to me, Like 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:43.440 I love it. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.120 I'm not overwhelmed or. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.640 Yeah, that's thing like seeing you now, I can't imagine 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.040 you not coaching, but like you know, I always wonder 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.160 like a you. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.440 Know, it's fun then. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.960 You know we all like I started kind of when 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.320 you started, So it's like, yeah, to watch guys you 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.640 cover then become coaches, Like it's always yeah, who. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.520 Have thought Sam to Sell would be a coach? 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.240 Right, And he's been doing it so long. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.560 Now, IQ, and he's another guy. Just I can't wait 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.200 for him to get an opportunity because feel handy Chris Jent, like, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.200 it's some damn good coaches who are more than capable 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:22.280 of running their own team. And just knowing all these 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.400 guys for the decades that I've known them in their 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.760 IQ and just I just think it's a natural fit. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.120 And now these guys they you know, no disrespect. People 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.680 have to come into this thing in their own way, right. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.320 But I think what these players do if you've been 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.359 a part of a team, if you played in this 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.280 game and you know how to articulate that well is 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.000 everything's just not well. I played and I used to 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.760 average thirty. So you should listen to me. No, if 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.040 you actually studied the game, you understand how all pieces fit. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.480 You know you're not just a star player coach, You're 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.840 the coach of an entire group. I just thank God 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.240 to go into it, man, because these guys really need 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.200 I think we're in the system now where everything that's 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:12.439 happening out in society. These guys need strong leadership in 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.840 the locker room on all levels, not just a basketball level, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.199 but even a social level. These guys need leadership, and 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.760 they need guys that they can that can help them navigate, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.320 you know, through through their journey and make the best 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.600 possible decisions for themselves and their families. And I think, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.639 being a guy that's done it and been around the 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.520 great players I've been around playing with coach, I just 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:38.520 come with a humility. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.399 Man, That's me. That's not an act. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.199 It's just how I was raised and just how I 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:51.240 decide to approach it again, factual based, no elaborated stories, 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:55.960 no manufactured you know situations or I told him and 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.600 I told him though, I just try to look at 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.560 the game, look at my team, try to see how 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.959 the ways we can get better and and be humble 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.400 and and and be strong and consistent at the same time. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.480 My last question, starn Sarb, how long? What's the two 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.600 part question? How long does it take you to get 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.960 over the exit of the playoffs in the Western Conference finals? 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.439 And then what are the expectations with the new moves 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.639 that you made off see what are the expectations for 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:24.200 next season. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.879 Well, it's hard, I mean, because you know, having won 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.960 and having been that team that finished second, not just 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.920 third or four, like, it's only one team that's gonna 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.440 be happy out of all thirty at the end of 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:36.800 the year. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:37.760 Bro, it's only one. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.520 And but the thing I think, the credibility and us 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:43.479 being able to turn the corner and get the Lakers 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.680 back to their proper position again being talked about the 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.560 last one of the last four teams standing, I think 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.520 it's great. And my expectations is for us to come 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.520 and work hard every day and most certainly put another 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.520 banner up. I'm not in this just to win games, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.920 get to the second or third round and celebrate that. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:05.360 I want it all. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.480 You know, I've been I know what it looks like 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.639 standing up there looking down on the other side. I 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.119 know I've gotten to do that twice, and so uh, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.760 I expect to do it again and again. We're gonna 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.800 go as far as our work takes us, and believe me, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.760 we're gonna have championship work happens. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.240 I promise you that they don't put divisional championship banners 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.040 up up in the rafters at all for the Lakers. 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:33.080 Not at Crypto. Hell not, you've been in our facility. 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.920 Ever looked in the Genie's window. Yeah, I see trophies 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.520 up there. I see y'all don't plas around. 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.399 That always gets to me when I know how the 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.560 franchise probably ain't won a championship, but they put these 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.640 division banners up there, and I'm like, come. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:52.399 On, now, some people need positive rement. We know what 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.639 we in this for. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:55.680 We ain't sure. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.760 My sign off question is a little bit more of 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.400 a personal one because my I want to I want 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.280 to test your memory here, because I don't trust my 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.320