1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the world of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: four hour NBA news. This is you, Chris Haynes. It's 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: so time, part's time, It's so time. This League Uncut 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one. 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Good one, just a good one. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: We might need to reach out to our friend Tim Kitsrow, 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: the voice of NBA JAM to maybe amend that, because 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: this is a great one. Our visit with Lakers coach 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: Darvin Ham, who sat with Chris Haynes and I for 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: an hour at Caesar's Palace, the iconic Caesar's Palace, a 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: live interview with Darvin Ham, and he was tremendous and 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: open book on so many different subjects. We decided this 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: had to be a two part episode. Enjoy Now listen 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: into part two, where we talk about all kinds of subjects, 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: including Darvin Ham's plans for Austin Reeves now that Austin 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: Reeves is back with the Lakers on a lucrative contract extension. 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: Big plans for Austin Reeves that Darvin Ham explains and reveals, 18 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: and also he addresses the Lakers rivalry with the so 19 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: called Laker Daddy. Nuggets coach Mike Malone. That's all here 20 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: now on this edition of This League Uncut Live from 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: Las Vegas. 22 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm really lucky on my substack. 23 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: I have a huge community of Laker fans who are 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: readers of my substack, and so they sent me a 25 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: zillion questions to ask you. I'm not gonna ask you 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: a zillion, but I gotta ask at least a couple 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: so they don't get mad at me. And this one 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: is from Kobe Boyd, who we call the green Room Mamba. 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: That's a long story. I'm not gonna explain that whole thing. 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: But if I don't ask you for a full breakdown 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: of your plans for Austin Reeves and what his future holds, 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: I will I will never be forgiven. 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm putting it on record right now. Aust Reeves will 34 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: be an All Star at some point soon. I think 35 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: what you saw him being invited to to be a 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: part of the World Cup team, it's the first step 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: in that direction. Everything you saw him do last year. 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: The kid is a flat out competitor, one of the 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: greatest human beings you can ever be around. Always fun, 40 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: keeps things simple, but yet works at his craft. It's 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: fearless in the biggest of moments, and my plan is 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: to continue to feature him. He's our starting to guard. 43 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot more levels he's going to 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: get to before it's all set and done, and he'll 45 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: be all starting a world champion with me in the 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: room with him. 47 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: Chu go, and then I'll take this back. 48 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 5: Last time we saw each other in person, it was 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: the last game you lost against when you got got 50 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: swept by the Denver Nuggets and Stein. This is behind 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 5: the scenes, so this is probably two hours after the game. 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 5: I got some news right after that game Lebron that 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: he was considering retirement, and I didn't I didn't publish 54 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 5: the story. 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 6: I saw d Ham. 56 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: I was like, I gotta go tell d Ham before 57 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: I published it. That's just out of respect, No, just 58 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: out of respect. 59 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: I don't want you know. 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: I know he probably didn't care that. You know, he's 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: probably mad. He was with his family at the time. 62 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: But I pulled d Ham. 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 6: To the side. 64 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: I was like, d I just want to let you 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: know so you're not cut off guard. Momentarily, I'm about 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 5: to publish that Lebron is considering retirement, And I said, 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: did you know anything about that, he said hell no, hell. 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 6: You know he said, okay, well, well thank you that 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: he would all just start taking. 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 7: Pictures of the film. Appreciate. 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 6: But have you have you spoken to Lebron? 72 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 5: Most people didn't think he'll really get to that point, 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 5: but it's just for me. What it showed me was 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: that he's finally thinking in that direction, like the time 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: is like we're the time is limited that we're going 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 5: to you know. 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 6: See That's that's the way I took it. 78 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: But have you spoke to Lebron this summer and you know, 79 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 5: moving forward about what the plans are. 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: Man, me and the King communicate often, and like I 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: like I said it, you know, publicly, he has every 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 4: right to feel how he wants to feel. He's done 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: nothing but heavy lifting throughout his career. I mean, you're 84 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: talking about somebody with the type of expectations that were 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: placed on him coming out of high school to where 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: he is now and the guy that's not only met 87 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: the expectations but exceeded them and even recreated the narrati 88 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 4: of how special he is. And yeah, I'm talking about 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: not just heavy lifting for his team trying to win, 90 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: have his individual success, but heavy lifting for the league 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: where he's taking the league, the NBA as a whole globally, 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: you know, just one of those ones in the generator, 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: once in the generation type players. I just I just 94 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: felt like, you know, he needed all the time, whatever 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: time he needs, and he gets the chance and gets 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: he has the right to do what he feels his 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: right for Lebron James and his family. Like he's more 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: than earned that, and so whatever he's ready, whenever he's 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: ready to get back to basketball, he decides he don't 100 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: want to do it no more, and he's totally earned that. 101 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: I appreciate him again for what he did for me 102 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: in my first year being in that seat, and the 103 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: support he gave me, and the compliance and again allowing 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: himself to be coached, giving me the feedback stepping up 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: as a leader. We don't get that far without the 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: impact that he made for us as a coaching staff 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: and for his teammates and the performances he put forth. 108 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: And so you know, he, in my opinion, he gets 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: he earned the right to do whatever he wants to 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: do and our respective decision either way, whatever he decides 111 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: that the final decision will be. I would anticipate though 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: that we hadn't seen the last of the world. We 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: got some unfinished business that he and I talked about. 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: So it's it's, uh, we'll see, we'll see, We'll see 115 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: where he is October third, October second guy ask ask 116 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: some questions on media day whether or not he's in 117 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: the gym or not We in Vegas, right, I'll put 118 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: some money on the fact that he might just be 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: in that gym come October second. 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm glad that we are getting your a material on 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: July eleventh. So the October second crew we we got, 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: we got a. 123 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: Two and a half month head start on that. 124 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 7: Absolutely, we've kept. 125 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: You too long. We're only going to do a couple 126 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: of work. This is awesome, this is fantastic. But will 127 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: we would do two hours if we could. I mean, 128 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: you are your openness and willing to tell guys. 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: Some money over here. Decided to take a nap and 130 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: try to forget about it. I mean, it's it's it's 131 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: a cool vot. 132 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 6: We got some stars in the audience. Am and O 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 6: Hasson is over there right there, Keith Smith is over there. 134 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 6: Got a turner man they represented. 135 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 7: Bring out the heavy hitters man. 136 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: So Denver has lost Bruce Brown, They've lost Jeff Green. 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: You guys have have made a serious. 138 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: If they lose Jamal Murray, they lose Joker. If they 139 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: didn't lose those two, they really didn't lose a damn thing. 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 7: So just for the. 141 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Record, so I guess that's my question. 142 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: I mean, they love they lost two of their eight 143 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: main rotation guys. 144 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: That's my long. 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: Winded way of saying, how Joker decides to retire, go 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: back to service. They called me then, no, no disrespect 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: the Bruce Jeff. But that's what happens, man, when you 148 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: have a hell of a team, a championship squad. I've 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: seen it as a player, seeing it as a coach, 150 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: like those high value players, whether starters. Obviously he's not 151 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: gonna lose your main guys, but those rotation guys are 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: huge for you. But other people see what the contributions 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: they make and increases value and a lot of times 154 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: you're not able to keep them in the fold because 155 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: again their value is get shot through the roof. And 156 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: when you win at the highest level, at the highest level, 157 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: like people are gonna be coming for you, man. They 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: want those guys to bring that same pedigree to their 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: individual franchises. 160 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: So how much better would you match up with them 161 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: if you had to play them in a series? Now 162 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: with the changes you've made, and they've lost a. 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 7: Couple guys, we'll see. 164 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I think with a lot of what they did, 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: they had guys from KCP, the Michael Porter and Aaron Gordon, 166 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: they had guys Bruce Jeff, they had guys stepping up 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: making plays, making big plays. 168 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: And so I mean they know who they are. That's 169 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: clearly there. 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: Besides Joe, I think our size that we've added, I 171 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: think our basketball IQ, the fearlessness of a gay Denton 172 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: getting you Ruie back, getting Austin back, adding a young 173 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: explosive prospect like Jackson Hayes getting d Lo back, you know, 174 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: Cam Reddish, Torrian Prince like. I think we match up 175 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: extremely well now, and it's up to us and it's 176 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: our job now to take all of those names and 177 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: translate it, transition it, I should say, from the paper 178 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: to the actual court and getting everyone to lock in 179 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: and buy into what we're doing. I think Scott's will 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: be a limit. We'll only go as far as our 181 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: work takes us. Always believe in. 182 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: That you mentioned the guys Jackson Hayes still have to 183 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: defend Joker, like you still have to have a body. 184 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 5: I believe Rob Palika said recently that they're they're the 185 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: search for big man. Do you do you believe that 186 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 5: it's critical that you get another big man, somebody with size, 187 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 5: just in case you have to see Joker in the future. 188 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: I mean, no one man is gonna stop Joker. No, 189 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: no community of men is gonna stop Joker. You know, 190 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: his his points of attack are all over the place, 191 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: whether it's the post, whether it's through the elbows where 192 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: there's three point line, him play making making plays, whereas teammates. 193 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: Same with Jamal. I just think we have to be 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: able to fight fire with fire, you know. And the 195 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: big thing about Denver is you can't make can't turn 196 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 4: the ball over. You have to finish at the rim. 197 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: You gotta get to the free throw line and make 198 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: free throws. But you cannot have any what we call 199 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: again self inflicted wounds. You can't beat yourself like they're 200 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: they're tough. We'll see because you know their core is young, 201 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: They're they're set up to make a run for a 202 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: plenty more years. So what we hope to do is 203 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 4: again all those guys I mentioned getting get them in 204 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 4: the gym as quickly as possible and start getting on 205 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: the same page of being able to get a full 206 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: training camp well off season open gym training camp, and 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: to start the season off with a unified group that's 208 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 4: highly talented, highly skilled, and we've gotten younger and so 209 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: uh again, being able to fight fire with fire. I 210 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: think it's no one person you can go find that's 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 4: going to stop these guys. You just have a you 212 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: have to have a fully commit, fully committed arsenal to 213 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: throw back. 214 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: At the World Champs, I wanted to ask this question 215 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: coach real quick, Mike, Mike Bootholzer got let go by 216 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 5: the Bucks. What was your reaction after, you know, not 217 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 5: too long ago hoisting up a championship for the organization? 218 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: And I guess where's his mindset. 219 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: That I mean you're talking about, But it is, you know, 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: obviously disappointed about that, but I think he's in a 221 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: great place mentally in terms of now you know, having 222 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 4: some time to really get back to his family and 223 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: and and to really you know, lock in with his 224 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: kids and do different things with its own free time. 225 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: It's amazing because it's not just with Bud, but you 226 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: know Manti obviously was ever able to pivot and go 227 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: to Detroit and Nick Nurse Doc rivers like you're talking 228 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: about some high, high level coaches with championship pedigree being 229 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: let go for whatever reason. 230 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 7: It's crazy. 231 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: My emotions are, it's like, damn, like you even when 232 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: you win, it's not good enough. But this is what 233 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: we sign up for, so you can't. You know, you 234 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: just got to keep putting your best foot forward every 235 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: each and every time you get a chance to wake 236 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: up and and and and be that league guy for 237 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: your team, and you just again, you got to make 238 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: sure you're doing everything possible to not just put yourself, 239 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: but you're into group in the position to be successful. 240 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: And if someone decides that get into the pinnacle or 241 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 4: whatever and winning, is that not good enough? And it's 242 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: just not good enough and but someone will appreciate that work. 243 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: And as you saw, a couple of those guys were 244 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: able to pivot into different jobs. But yeah, you look 245 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: at it like damn, they fired them, and then you 246 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: turn around and they get Minnie Williams eighty million dollars. 247 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: So that's also inspiring. 248 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: All of all that's good. 249 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 7: Dudes, Like, oh wow, go ahead, but we got the 250 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 7: same agent too. Wow. Shout out to Spenser Breacher c 251 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 7: AA in the building. 252 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: What point in your life did you know you want 253 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: to do this? Like twenty it's almost twenty years since 254 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: the Pistons championship. Had I stopped you in the hall 255 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: at the Palace of Auburn Hills and said, if you 256 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: want to coach someday, Like, what would you have said 257 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: at that point in your life? 258 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 7: Come with me, Mark, We're gonna take this drug test. 259 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 6: So when was it? 260 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: When was there want to? 261 00:13:59,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: You know? 262 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 7: Actually? 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: And I remember running into you at the MAVs games 264 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: when I used to do a little work with Fox 265 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: Sports Southwest after it was then known, and then you know, 266 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: doing some stuff with the NBA. 267 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: TV producers. 268 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 7: Put me audience. 269 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: So that was a lot of fun. But one thing 270 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: I realized is like one, how much I missed the 271 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: game and two didn't feel like I was necessary necessarily 272 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: close enough to the competition. It's one thing, like to 273 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: analyze the game from that from a neutral perspective, but 274 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm one. I want to be able to pick a side, 275 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: and so outside of playing, coaching to me, was the 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: next best option and spending four beautiful years in the 277 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: G League was known as the D League then in Albuquerque, 278 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: New Mexico. And it's funny because the part owners of 279 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: the team, the Thunderbirds, who eventually became the majority owners, 280 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: Sam and Jackie Brickman, their son Alex breaking the you know, 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: Perennial All Star for the Houston Astros. I've known him 282 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: since he was twelve thirteen years old. He and I 283 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: have an incredibly He's like a little brother than. 284 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 7: Me, man. 285 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: So it's crazy the different blessings that comes from those 286 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: different situations. And not only me being able to extend, ascend, 287 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: you know, to to this position I'm in now, but 288 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: just the competition, man, the spirit of competitiveness, I can't 289 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: get enough of. It's like, that's why, you know, everybody's 290 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: like this. The Lakers may be overwhelming for certain people. 291 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: Being in the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, 292 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: I embrace all of it like it's it's a total blessing. 293 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: It's a challenge that we're in the process of figuring out. 294 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, we went from being an I only want 295 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: to say a laughing stop. But getting us back to 296 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: that credibility as being a top of the food chain 297 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: team in this league and with plenty plenty more room 298 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: to grow and and we're going to grow from everything 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: we went through last year and to be able to 300 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 4: hit the ground running this year and proper form, proper 301 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: order with the guys we've added, guys were able to 302 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: bring back, and if Bron decides not to retire, will 303 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: be even stronger and better along with Anthony. 304 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 7: So we're looking forward to it. That's the competition mark 305 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 7: as a. 306 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: Player, though you didn't have these aspirations like you all happened. 307 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: Aganically, like literally me doing different radio shows and you 308 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: know before it was podcast with doing the radio shows 309 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: and then doing little TV spots. 310 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 7: And I'm like, man, I. 311 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: Really missed the game, Like I'm searching in my mind 312 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: how to get more involved in coaching? Was it and 313 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: it just feels like a natural fit to me, Like 314 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 315 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 7: I'm not overwhelmed or. 316 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's thing like seeing you now, I can't imagine 317 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: you not coaching, but like you know, I always wonder 318 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: like a you. 319 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 7: Know, it's fun then. 320 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: You know we all like I started kind of when 321 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: you started, So it's like, yeah, to watch guys you 322 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: cover then become coaches, Like it's always yeah, who. 323 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 7: Have thought Sam to Sell would be a coach? 324 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: Right, And he's been doing it so long. 325 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: Now, IQ, and he's another guy. Just I can't wait 326 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: for him to get an opportunity because feel handy Chris Jent, like, 327 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: it's some damn good coaches who are more than capable 328 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: of running their own team. And just knowing all these 329 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 4: guys for the decades that I've known them in their 330 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: IQ and just I just think it's a natural fit. 331 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: And now these guys they you know, no disrespect. People 332 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 4: have to come into this thing in their own way, right. 333 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: But I think what these players do if you've been 334 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: a part of a team, if you played in this 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: game and you know how to articulate that well is 336 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: everything's just not well. I played and I used to 337 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: average thirty. So you should listen to me. No, if 338 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: you actually studied the game, you understand how all pieces fit. 339 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: You know you're not just a star player coach, You're 340 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: the coach of an entire group. I just thank God 341 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: to go into it, man, because these guys really need 342 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: I think we're in the system now where everything that's 343 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 4: happening out in society. These guys need strong leadership in 344 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: the locker room on all levels, not just a basketball level, 345 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 4: but even a social level. These guys need leadership, and 346 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: they need guys that they can that can help them navigate, 347 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: you know, through through their journey and make the best 348 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: possible decisions for themselves and their families. And I think, 349 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 4: being a guy that's done it and been around the 350 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: great players I've been around playing with coach, I just 351 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: come with a humility. 352 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 7: Man, That's me. That's not an act. 353 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 4: It's just how I was raised and just how I 354 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: decide to approach it again, factual based, no elaborated stories, 355 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: no manufactured you know situations or I told him and 356 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 4: I told him though, I just try to look at 357 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: the game, look at my team, try to see how 358 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 4: the ways we can get better and and be humble 359 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: and and and be strong and consistent at the same time. 360 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: My last question, starn Sarb, how long? What's the two 361 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 5: part question? How long does it take you to get 362 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: over the exit of the playoffs in the Western Conference finals? 363 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 5: And then what are the expectations with the new moves 364 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: that you made off see what are the expectations for 365 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 5: next season. 366 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: Well, it's hard, I mean, because you know, having won 367 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: and having been that team that finished second, not just 368 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: third or four, like, it's only one team that's gonna 369 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: be happy out of all thirty at the end of 370 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: the year. 371 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 7: Bro, it's only one. 372 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: And but the thing I think, the credibility and us 373 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 4: being able to turn the corner and get the Lakers 374 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: back to their proper position again being talked about the 375 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: last one of the last four teams standing, I think 376 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: it's great. And my expectations is for us to come 377 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: and work hard every day and most certainly put another 378 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: banner up. I'm not in this just to win games, 379 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: get to the second or third round and celebrate that. 380 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 7: I want it all. 381 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: You know, I've been I know what it looks like 382 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: standing up there looking down on the other side. I 383 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 4: know I've gotten to do that twice, and so uh, 384 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: I expect to do it again and again. We're gonna 385 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: go as far as our work takes us, and believe me, 386 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna have championship work happens. 387 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: I promise you that they don't put divisional championship banners 388 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: up up in the rafters at all for the Lakers. 389 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: Not at Crypto. Hell not, you've been in our facility. 390 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: Ever looked in the Genie's window. Yeah, I see trophies 391 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: up there. I see y'all don't plas around. 392 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: That always gets to me when I know how the 393 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: franchise probably ain't won a championship, but they put these 394 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 5: division banners up there, and I'm like, come. 395 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 4: On, now, some people need positive rement. We know what 396 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: we in this for. 397 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 7: We ain't sure. 398 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: My sign off question is a little bit more of 399 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: a personal one because my I want to I want 400 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 3: to test your memory here, because I don't trust my 401 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: own memory anymore. I make so many I use. My 402 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: memory used to be one of my When you say 403 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: legendary things, there's a fine line between legendary and washed. 404 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: I had the privilege, I believe, of covering your very 405 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: first NBA exhibition game in Hawaii. Oh yeah, I was 406 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: right on the baseline, a young Denver Nuggets rookie, the 407 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: rim busting Darvin Ham. And again I tried to look 408 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: this up, but of course it's not nineteen ninety six. 409 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: October nineteen ninety six is not that look uppable, so 410 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: I couldn't find it. But in my memory, I was 411 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: the baseline seats were the media where we were right 412 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: near the Laker bench. You threw down a great dunk early, 413 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: and you had the Laker bench ooing and eyeing at 414 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: your throwdown. But I distinctly remember we were this so 415 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: close to the Laker bench. 416 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: We could hear this. 417 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 3: Nick van X, who of course you know, has to 418 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: talk some smack, said something to the effect of, now 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: let's see that jumper. And I don't if I'm going 420 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: to be polite, I don't think your first jumper went great. 421 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: I don't remember it exactly, but I jump shot went 422 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: Do you remember do you remember do you remember? Am 423 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: I inventing this? Or do you remember? Do you remember any. 424 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: Of this closest only that I met through my travels 425 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 4: within the game. And Nick and I still really really 426 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: cool man, that's my dude. But nah, man, I mean 427 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: back then you were given a simple menu like and 428 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, player development like you had. You didn't have 429 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: as many coaches back then as you have now. And 430 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 4: you if you were good at I'm like my coach, 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: the great Dick Matter, he told me this, I need 432 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: to do four things. 433 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 7: Jump fella, and you be all right. 434 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: You always have a job compete your ass off, run hard, rebound, 435 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: defend and finish. That's what he told me in that order. 436 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: Compete your ass off, defend, rebound, and run and finish. 437 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: And I was all right, And when I was able 438 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: to do that, you know, and not really trying to. 439 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: I always play with shooters, right the one's looking for 440 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: Darvin hand to be casting up threes. If I'm playing 441 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: with ray Allen, Sam Pacel and Glenn Robertson shot out 442 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: the big dog. Just talk with yesterday for a good 443 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: long time here. 444 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 7: And I caught up. 445 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: But it just that's what Ramon says. 446 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, You're like, if you want Draymond taking threes, 447 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: you're out there with Clay step And it's not about 448 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 4: whether he can make it the one night. It's like, 449 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: what what do you bring to the table, what's gonna bring? 450 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: What are you gonna bring that's gonna give us balance? 451 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 4: And Draymond is proven that like Hall of Fame career like, 452 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 4: and being from my city, I'm like, I look, man, 453 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 4: he's the best ever do it, one of the best 454 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 4: to ever do it out of Michigan for sure, Like 455 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 4: in terms of just being a highly competitive, winning basketball 456 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 4: player and that's all I wanted to do, is like 457 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't. I never was caught up in the cosmetics 458 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: of the game. I saw a lot of guys that 459 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: were way more skill than I was that didn't come 460 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: close to having a career I had, And because I 461 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: didn't need the ball, I could make things happen. It's 462 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: funny me and Ray Allam was laughing at Joker one 463 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 4: time when I was a player in Milwaukee with him. 464 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 4: I think Ray might have thirty six when I had 465 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 4: eight points. They showed six of my eight points on 466 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: the highlight stuff. All dunks they show, they showed four 467 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: points of his thirty six. 468 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 5: So it was like, figure, hey, dark to your point 469 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 5: about development, I remember back in high school and during 470 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 5: practice you were six three year higher, I mean six 471 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: three or taller. 472 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 6: You were in the post, and during practice they would 473 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 6: separate you. 474 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: They would have the guards on once one half of 475 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 5: the court had the bigs working on posts. But now 476 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 5: today's development, everybody's doing ball handling drills, and so it 477 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 5: wasn't to your point about the way you came up, 478 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: It wasn't that you couldn't never do that. 479 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 6: It's just that. 480 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 7: Wasn't it wasn't required. 481 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 6: It wasn't required exactly. 482 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the biggest thing. Now we're trying 483 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: to extract as much as you can. A lot of 484 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: the growth that you see with a lot of franchises, 485 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 4: it comes from within, you know, these guys, getting these guys, 486 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: because these guys are coming in now eighteen nineteen, twenty 487 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: years old, long, long, long gone are the days of 488 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: guys being in college for two three four years and 489 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 4: having that polished, you know, and those guys are still 490 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 4: highly valuable too, but now they're more looked bad as 491 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: failures because they decide to stay in school so long. 492 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 4: But coming in now we have a strong, strong, you 493 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 4: don't have a player development element to your program, and 494 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: you're missing the mark and you're really not setting yourself 495 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: up to succeed because that's a big major part of 496 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 4: it of how you know, bringing value to your franchise. 497 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: And so I'm just excited that again the G League 498 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: back D League background and understanding that part of it, 499 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 4: and of coaches field handed Christian gent the guys I 500 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: got with me that really excel and that's the one 501 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 4: that one of the areas that they excel, and it's 502 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: making gods better. 503 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 5: I would get a shout out real quick, what's up 504 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 5: to Aaron Goodwin over there? He's been the news late 505 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 5: good and he's been the news like. 506 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 7: A mover and shake of all movers and shake you hey, good. 507 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: Y'all. Look look him up the news lately. 508 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: Responsible for a bunch of hundred million dollar contracts and 509 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: not two hundred million. 510 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: Man, he's not done. 511 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: We have absolutely overstated our welcome with you. We are 512 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 3: so grateful for all this time. This is really going 513 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: to be the last, last, last, because we we've kept 514 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: you a half hour longer than I said. 515 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 7: We were going to. 516 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: It's somewhat your fault because you're giving us gold here. 517 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Gold. 518 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are not purple and gold is just gold. 519 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 7: I appreciate. 520 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: So last week some great dunkers that I've interviewed in 521 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: the past, they didn't like talking about their dunking. Yeah, 522 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: obviously the rim you broke in college. 523 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: Has you know that story has. 524 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: Followed you your whole career. Is that a source of 525 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: pride or are you? Is it you not like talking 526 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: about that? Where do you stand on when people bring 527 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: that up? 528 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 7: It was great? 529 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: Man? I'm happy, Uh, I'm happy. They were able to 530 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: look at me and say that was him. You know 531 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 4: he did that and again in that moment, being in 532 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: a tournament tournament playing against you know, basically the Lakers 533 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 4: of college basketball in terms of the North Carolina Tar Hills, 534 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: like in a tournament game, it's great. 535 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 7: I mean I. 536 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: Was just as shocked as anyone. But if you look 537 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 4: at my walk off when I faked it pretty good 538 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: like I meant for it to happen, but uh nah. 539 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: And to have Vince Carter on the floor too at that, 540 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: like that's all right, one of the most dynamic aerial 541 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: uh players that we've ever seen in basketball period. Uh 542 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 4: be out there to witness that firsthand. It was a 543 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 4: great moment, man, for our little old school out of 544 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: West Texas, Texas Tech and kind of put us on 545 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: the map. And it was a statement victory and uh 546 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: something I will always cherish and it's always fun talking 547 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: about it. 548 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't want to I didn't want to 549 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: end on. I didn't want to end on a note 550 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: that you didn't want to talk about. 551 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good, hold on, I forgot all that self 552 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: righteous stuff these guys do, man, they need. 553 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 6: To knock it off, Mike Malone did a lot of celebrating. 554 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 7: Oh wow, bring up money like the Lakers Daddy, right, 555 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 7: that's what they call him. That the Lakers Daddy. That's 556 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 7: what they called him. Now the Lakers Daddy. 557 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 6: I guess you could talk, you would. 558 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 7: We were a championship, bless so this sh it ain't over, God, 559 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: bless you. 560 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: So we knew this was going to be good. But 561 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: good doesn't even good does not even describe it. This 562 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: is the best show we've ever had. Coach Ham, I 563 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: appreciate you, incredible your. 564 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: Time that you've given us here today, and to. 565 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 3: Do this in front of an audience is the first 566 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: time Chris and I have ever done this face to face. 567 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: We always do it remotely, So thank you for helping 568 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: us make a little history. 569 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 7: No doubt. 570 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: Congrats on a great debut season as the Lakers head coach, 571 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: and wishing you great success in the future. 572 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Mark, I appreciate you too. Chris and 573 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 4: I love to do it again whenever you guys need me. 574 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: I'm honored and thankful you guys to invite me to 575 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: your platform and put your seat belts on. Baby, we've 576 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: got to turn. 577 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 6: Up everybody, please give them aroundable plause. Please, thank you. 578 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 8: Guys, and that'll do it for us. See you next time. 579 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 8: This League, uncutage and My Heart Radio production 580 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 7: The same that marks time.