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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's hour two on

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday, Dan and the Dannets. Dan Patrick Show talks

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Speaker 1: in football with Chris Simms on loan from NBC Sports,

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, the Blazer's guard, in an hour from now,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned something yesterday that people, they questioned, let's put

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Speaker 1: it that way. I mean, I was gonna say, took

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Speaker 1: issue with that. That sounds a little too serious here.

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Speaker 1: When I said that Lebron Lebron was asked about the MVP,

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Speaker 1: wondered if somebody said to him, who is the MVP

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Speaker 1: of the NBA season, because you know, the Greek freak

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Speaker 1: is gonna win it. But I'm curious if Lebron thinks

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Speaker 1: he's the MVP. That's what I wanted to know. And

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Speaker 1: I said, I think Lebron thinks he's the MVP. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: not going to win it. But I think Lebron, in

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Speaker 1: his mind, just about every year that he plays, he

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Speaker 1: thinks he's the best player in the NBA. But I

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Speaker 1: wasn't saying he's going to win. I just said in

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Speaker 1: should this story of a player his age or what

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Speaker 1: he's overcome, those kind of things. How much does that

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Speaker 1: factor in with the MVP, because the MVP is really

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Speaker 1: you had a great season and your team won. It

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Speaker 1: always helps if your team is winning. And also if

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Speaker 1: it's a news story. You know, Steve Nash was a

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Speaker 1: new story. He should have won one of those MVPs.

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Speaker 1: Not both Kobe won an MVP and Lebron should have

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Speaker 1: won it that year. Shack should have won it one

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Speaker 1: year when Steve Nash did. But sometimes it's the story

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Speaker 1: that's attached to it, And I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: credibility credence love that Lebron's going to get based off

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Speaker 1: the story that Hey at his age leading the league

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Speaker 1: and assist going out West where everybody said, oh, let's

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Speaker 1: see what Lebron does when he goes out West. He

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Speaker 1: went out West. They have the best team in the West.

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Speaker 1: And I still think the Greek Freak is going to

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Speaker 1: I think the Greek Freak is going to do double duty.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be the defensive player of the year

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Speaker 1: as well. But this goes back to can Lebron use

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Speaker 1: this as motivation the way Jordan did? And I know,

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Speaker 1: here we go Lebron and Jordan, but Michael took it

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Speaker 1: as a slight when Carl Malone won the MVP, He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you think he's the MVP. And of course they faced

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Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz in the NBA Finals, and we know

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Speaker 1: what happened. Charles Barkley wins the MVP. Oh you think

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Speaker 1: Charles is the MVP. They faced the Phoenix Suns in

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Speaker 1: to the Western Conference finals, and then if you run

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Speaker 1: into the Greek freak, that's what you do. You close

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Speaker 1: that other team out, that guy who was the MVP.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Jordan did. And those two times when

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Speaker 1: the finals. But you know, Lebron has had an unbelievable season,

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Speaker 1: a great season considering where he was last year, where

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Speaker 1: out an hour ago. Phone calls are welcome. Eight seven

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Speaker 1: The Timberwolves are up for sale. If anybody's got some

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Speaker 1: He's seeking at least one point two billion for a

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Speaker 1: We've made that very clear. But the Wilves bought the

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Speaker 1: about billionaires. There are a lot of billionaires, but there's

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Speaker 1: only a select number who owns sports teams, and even

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Speaker 1: you know they're billionaires who don't want to be famous.

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Speaker 1: But then there are billionaires who do, Hey, I'm a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: And then once you own a team, then people know

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Speaker 1: who you are. Mark Cuban. Mark had a billion, and

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Speaker 1: Steve Balmer, I was at least aware of him. Steve

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Speaker 1: there are guys like Warren Buffett, who has been on

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Speaker 1: I don't want people to dislike me. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Think about it. If you buy a team,

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Speaker 1: like if Derek Jeter came back and was part of

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Speaker 1: the risk of people not piking you or turning on you.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm a billionaire, you have to decide do

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Speaker 1: few that could own these particular teams. I was looking at,

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Speaker 1: you know, the value that Cowboys are the most valuable

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Speaker 1: and it's a great investment from an investment standpoint. No

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Speaker 1: one's going to complain. Would you, anyone in this room

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Speaker 1: want to buy a team? Part two? Would you buy

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Speaker 1: buy an NFL team because it feels like that's they're

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much money you're making.

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Speaker 1: I saw where the Packers, you know, since they're publicly

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Speaker 1: pretty good business transaction. Yes, time, Yeah, I would buy

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Speaker 1: Ellway that much. I might accept mediocrity with John Elway

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Speaker 1: it work. Yeah. See. See The benefits though, of owning,

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Speaker 1: come on, dirty, I call her dirty Diana. She's the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first off, she was a great mom, and man,

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Speaker 1: she had to deal with my dad for all these years,

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Speaker 1: and she still would though. That just tells you how

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Speaker 1: good she is. What was it like though, when your

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Speaker 1: dad came home. Your dad got beat up a lot,

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Speaker 1: He got roughed up a lot of those years with

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Speaker 1: the Giants. And did he bring games home, Yes, he did.

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Speaker 1: When they lost, he you know, not that he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, mad, or yelling at us or like treating

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Speaker 1: us with disrespect. But when dad lost, you know, a

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Speaker 1: game to the Philadelphia Eagles and Reggie White and Randall Cunningham,

436
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Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't gonna be any conversations in the

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Speaker 1: car ride home back, you know, from the stadium. And

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Speaker 1: then when he got home he was gonna Usually he

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Speaker 1: would pull up his chair. He would have this chair

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Speaker 1: and he pull it up real close to the TV,

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Speaker 1: and he put his feet up and have the TV

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Speaker 1: about six feet from him and watch, you know, highlights

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Speaker 1: in the Sunday night football game. But never really say

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Speaker 1: anything to the family the whole night. So that's usually

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Speaker 1: how it went. Wow, all right, that's all I wanted

446
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Speaker 1: to know, Chris, Thanks for joining us, as always appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering with these rookie quarterbacks. It's tough enough

448
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Speaker 1: to get acclimated in the NFL with the speed and

449
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Speaker 1: all the information. If you're looking at you're trying to

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Speaker 1: handicap this Joe Burrow to Justin Herbert, who's going to

451
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Speaker 1: have the easiest transition if you could even well refer

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Speaker 1: to it as easy. Right, Yeah, it's not easy. You're right,

453
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Speaker 1: neither or none of the situations are easy. But I

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Speaker 1: do think when I look at it, I go Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow and Tua have an advantage. I think over guys

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Speaker 1: like Jordan Love who's very raw and was in a

457
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Speaker 1: very simple offense. Justin Herbert not a very complicated offense

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Speaker 1: and creativity. They're up in Oregon. You know, Joe Burrow

459
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Speaker 1: got coached by a guy that's an NFL offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: and Joe Brady who worked under Sean Payden. So I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a good feel for how offenses

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Speaker 1: are run in the NFL. And that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: same logic I would use with Tua Dan. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know that that Alabama offense. You watch it, It's

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Speaker 1: got everything, and he's being coached by Nick Saban tell

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Speaker 1: tells you he's being coached like a pro. So I

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Speaker 1: think those are the two guys I would favor in

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Speaker 1: that conversation more than the other because of what they

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Speaker 1: came from. How are they going to be able to

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrows first pass could be his first pass. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's no preseason here, right right. I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know it's unbelievable. And yeah, I mean I don't

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Speaker 1: think you know, Cincinnati he's trying to deny. We know

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrows starting game one week one play one. You know.

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Speaker 1: The good thing for him is he played a lot

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Speaker 1: of football the last few years. Like we talked about,

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Speaker 1: he was in a pro style system. He's been around

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Speaker 1: and played against a lot of pro players. That's the

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Speaker 1: benefit of playing in SEC football. I mean, pretty much

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Speaker 1: every team you play every week's got a few professional

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Speaker 1: defensive linement, a few pros in the secondary. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, don't he'll adjust fairly quickly because I think

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Speaker 1: he's very talented and smart. Yeah, it feels like that

484
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Speaker 1: first pass is going to be a little drop off

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Speaker 1: pastor Joe Mixon out of the backfield. That's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: A little ice break here, AJK and here's a three

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Speaker 1: yard pass, you go do something with it. But the preseason,

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Speaker 1: we know it's necessary for the rookies just to get

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Speaker 1: kind of acclimated to the stage and teammates, the bright lights,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing there. But if you're a veteran, how

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Speaker 1: much are they going to miss the preseason? Not a

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Speaker 1: whole lot they're not. Now. I think the other wrinkle

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Speaker 1: you have to throw into this conversation too, is we'll

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Speaker 1: see what the rules are set up between the NFL

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Speaker 1: and the NFLPA and how many padded practices they're going

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Speaker 1: to be able to have and how many times they'll

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Speaker 1: be able to go full contact. You know, that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a big part of it. But it's something

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Speaker 1: that bothers me. It's something that's not being talked about

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Speaker 1: right now, you know, is the kind of the player

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Speaker 1: safety issue. I think you're going to have more players

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Speaker 1: coming into training camp out of shape than ever before.

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Speaker 1: You know, no matter how most of these guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're working out at home, but it's still not like

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Speaker 1: being there in the facility competing against guys. Every day

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Speaker 1: that you're working out with, a coach is yelling at

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Speaker 1: you doing all those things. So to get back to

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Speaker 1: your question. It's imperative for the rookies, the second year,

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Speaker 1: the third year guys, all those guys who just don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of snaps under their belt. You know,

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Speaker 1: those are big reps and that's why, you know, I know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that my coach friends have told me

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Speaker 1: is they're disappointed or scared that there's not going to

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Speaker 1: be enough eleven on eleven contact type drills when training

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Speaker 1: camp does come around, which of course is going to

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Speaker 1: hinder those type of guys' abilities to make the team

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Speaker 1: and things like that. But also Cam Newton here's a

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Speaker 1: veteran but coming back from injuries and then joining a

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Speaker 1: new team and oh, by the way, replacing Tom Brady. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, that's a lot of moving parts there, you're

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Speaker 1: right now. The one thing is or the guy like

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, you know, he knows he can play, he

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Speaker 1: knows he belongs. It's going to be more about you know,

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Speaker 1: him getting this New England system, which is as complicated

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Speaker 1: as ending in football, and getting a grasp of that.

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Speaker 1: And then I think the big thing is too that

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Speaker 1: you know, and again New England, their brain surgeons, is

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Speaker 1: the way they think and tactically attack things which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure building right now. It's thinking about, you know, how

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Speaker 1: can I make the most of an eighty man roster

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Speaker 1: with all these rules of COVID nineteen and do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's surgically dissecting what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, then part of that question too, And what

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Speaker 1: makes New England so great is you know, they'll formulate

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Speaker 1: the offense around Cam Newton and the fact of oh

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Speaker 1: he does this, good, all right, let's find twenty different

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Speaker 1: ways to do this, and then oh he doesn't do that, well,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll work on it and maybe we'll just

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Speaker 1: infuse it in the offense here and there. That's where

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Speaker 1: they're really great. And yeah, they're a little hamstrung by this,

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Speaker 1: but they have these type of Cam Newton plays in

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Speaker 1: their playbook. I'll say that, Dad, that they definitely do.

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Speaker 1: You know that this is the most extensive playbook in football.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think there's gonna be more of a

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Speaker 1: you know, a primary in primary thought of their offense

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Speaker 1: this year as when years passed it was trickery. He's

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live co host with Mike

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Speaker 1: Florio and a former NFL quarterback. Yeah, you start to

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Speaker 1: look at certain situations. Here, Dak Prescott is in camp

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Speaker 1: or going to be in camp, but you know, he

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Speaker 1: gets a franchise tag, and then you don't get that

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Speaker 1: long term deal, and how does that not affect you?

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Speaker 1: Whereas everybody else got long term deals from Jerry Jones?

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Speaker 1: And you know, the Cowboys I think mess this up

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Speaker 1: because they could have gotten him for what we would

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Speaker 1: look at as a bargain a year ago, right, and

557
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Speaker 1: now you know they're gonna pay top dollar, and then

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Speaker 1: he bet on himself again this year. So how does

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Speaker 1: this end with the Cowboys and Dak Prescott? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's either gonna be the same story and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be franchise tagging him again next year and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: roll the dice on that, which, hey, rolling the dice

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Speaker 1: this era twenty twenty at the quarterback position, it's not

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Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety two anymore. Right, with all the rules

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Speaker 1: to protect the quarterbacks, it's not as a dicey situation

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Speaker 1: as it once might have been. So I can understand

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's soft process. But you know what I worry about.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, just from the Dallas standpoint, is you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of the Joe Blaco effect. Hey, Dallas, we know

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Speaker 1: that offense has got talent and what they just got

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Speaker 1: ceedee lamb and the top twenty picks of the draft.

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Speaker 1: So would I would be scared about it if I'm

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Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan or a Cowboy employee. Is he has

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Speaker 1: a huge year against statistically and then the wins match it,

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Speaker 1: match it this year and then you go, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to pay him probably. You know,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes messed up this conversation too a little bit. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dallas messed up and not getting out in front of this.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you there totally. I do think Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott was probably being a little aggressive what I've been

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Speaker 1: led to believe in what he was asking for. And

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Speaker 1: then I think with Mahomes signing for what he signed

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Speaker 1: over the next two years, I think that's certainly probably

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Speaker 1: put a little wrench in that conversation too. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw this comment by Brandy Shambley on

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Speaker 1: the Golf Channel, but he said Tiger is the most

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Speaker 1: underachieving golfer of all time because of all the talent

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Speaker 1: and that he only won You know what, he's won

589
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Speaker 1: so far and that he should have won far more.

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Speaker 1: And it made me wonder, is Aaron Rodgers going to

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Speaker 1: be looked at it that way? Now? His resume is

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Speaker 1: not the same as Tigers. But you know, realizing everybody

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Speaker 1: says he's the most talented quarterback he's ever played, right,

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Speaker 1: and if he if he only ends up with one

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, will he be the least achieving or underachieving quarterback? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think he'll be viewed by many

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Speaker 1: that way. You know, he won't be viewed that way

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Speaker 1: by me. Yeah, And I think you know people you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dan, I know you're a great fan, you

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Speaker 1: got a great feel for the game. You know, I

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Speaker 1: would have a hard time thinking you would think that way.

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Speaker 1: Either you're you're smart enough to realize that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't had the most creative offenses around him and

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Speaker 1: big time talent and shut down defenses. And he can't

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Speaker 1: catch on side kicks against the Seahawkers to go to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and play defense too. So there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think the front office of the Packers

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Speaker 1: underachieved as much as any front office in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty I totally agree I totally agree. And then of

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Speaker 1: course I think this year's you know, offseason was a

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Speaker 1: debacle too, dear, where you got a guy that's still

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Speaker 1: playing at a very high level. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: widely that's what he's gonna be criticized. You know, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is one of those guys that I look at

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Speaker 1: a little like Lebron James, where he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: victim of his own greatness to a degree, because he

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Speaker 1: brought some teams in the NFC Championship, like in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen against the Falcons. They had no business being there.

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Speaker 1: But he's Aaron Rodgers and he could just carry his

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Speaker 1: team there. But then they got overwhelmed by a team

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Speaker 1: instead of like, oh, oh, this team's not that great.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Aaron Rodgers and I can overcome it. So

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Speaker 1: I in a lot of years of getting into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs where I go, oh, the team was really average.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if there were a playoff team

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Speaker 1: and they got in. So all those things are gonna

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Speaker 1: hurt him when it all comes said and done, but

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Speaker 1: it won't hurt him in my eyes, you know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Dan Marino went through this for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time that he went to one super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: never got back, went to I think one conference championship

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Speaker 1: game him after that. But we look at Dan Marino

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Speaker 1: and say, did he underachieve? And so a whole of

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Speaker 1: I mean it sounds strange to even say it, I know,

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Speaker 1: but you know where Brady overachieved because he wasn't a

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Speaker 1: first round pick and you know, of course his resume

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Speaker 1: like John Elway almost underachieved by losing three super Bowls

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Speaker 1: and then he won two because of Terrell Davis. Now

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Speaker 1: we look at him and go, yeah, he's h he achieved.

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana overachieved because he was a third round draft pick, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees, is he overachieved or underachieved? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know I think he's I think he's overachieved. Really,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's about the support system. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's where I look at it. And you know, me,

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Speaker 1: this is one of my pet peeves because we just

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Speaker 1: all boil it down to wins and losses and we

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Speaker 1: put it on one guy. And you know, as great

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Speaker 1: as Joe Montana is, right, I mean, Joe Montana is great,

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Speaker 1: I don't know he left the forty nine ers, and

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Speaker 1: all they did was go to NFC championship games and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls after he left. You know, so you look

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Speaker 1: at that and you go, oh, okay, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a team there. It was a great coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of things around him. He had

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Speaker 1: an offensive system that was ahead of its time and

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Speaker 1: things like that, where yeah, yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers necessarily had the benefit of the dat there.

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino. Hard to name too many great defensive players

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Speaker 1: or running backs that were ever around him, let alone

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Speaker 1: some of the other coaches that came off of that staff.

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Speaker 1: There's no greatness there either. So it's a pet peeve

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Speaker 1: of mine. It really does bother me. But I understand

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Speaker 1: the conversations, and yeah, that's why I try to get

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl rings conversation. I always try to, you know,

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Speaker 1: make people think about it a little bit more. But

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Speaker 1: it's like Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer, He's

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Speaker 1: overachieved in people's eyes because he was not a high

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Speaker 1: draft pick. Here, Dak Prescott has overachieved in some way,

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Speaker 1: right right right, Matthew Stafford underachieved. Matt Ryan's going to

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Speaker 1: be a Hall of famer. But we might look at

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Speaker 1: it and say, he under like it's where you're drafted,

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Speaker 1: how much you're getting paid that we start there and

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Speaker 1: go are you overachieving or underachieving? And usual he starts

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Speaker 1: with your draft selection. Well, you're right. It's a big

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation, which is not fair either, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not you know, I mean, you know again, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you misevaluate guys or you know Tom Brady, you know

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Speaker 1: he was allowed to lift the weight and work on

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Speaker 1: his forty time before he went to the combine. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't have been a sixth round pick if

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Speaker 1: he didn't have that picture where he has no muscle

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Speaker 1: and he ran up five two forty. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he could get some of that blame too. But you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's a great conversation. It certainly is. What do you

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Speaker 1: think Brady runs a forty now? Probably? I think he's

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Speaker 1: probably faster now than he was then, which is really

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Speaker 1: really odd. I do because I think he actually works

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Speaker 1: on it now. I don't. I think there was a

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Speaker 1: period in his career where he just said I'm a

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Speaker 1: great thrower and I can shuffle in the pocket, and

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Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about anything else. And I

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Speaker 1: heard him make some comments a few years ago where

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Speaker 1: he was like, all right, I want to start sprinting

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Speaker 1: and doing those things because if it is third and

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Speaker 1: three and they played coverage and double team everybody, he

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Speaker 1: wanted to be able to run for four yards. I

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Speaker 1: think he's got four running yards towards the end of

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Speaker 1: his career than he does early on. But like, it's

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Speaker 1: not he's not breaking five flat, Dan, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's breaking five flat right now. That's that would be

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Speaker 1: my guest. Can he beat Roethlisberger? Oh, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he can. I don't think he can. It'd be a

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Speaker 1: close one, now, Big Ben, I don't. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: run a sprint, you know, since he came out for

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Speaker 1: the combine, so they're going in different directions that way.

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Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, it'd be close. But I think

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Speaker 1: i'd give them the nudge to roethlisb I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think who's the slowest quarterback starting quarterback, because we know

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Speaker 1: who the fastest quarterback is. It's Philip Rivers. It's Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: the slowest quarterback. M I mean, I know, I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: here looking at teams right now, and I think he

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Speaker 1: could be in that conversation with Brady certainly, And I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to look if there's just anybody else I think

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Speaker 1: you might have nailed at. I think it might be

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Speaker 1: those two guys. Really, I don't see anybody else that

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Speaker 1: jumps out to me in that fashion. So I think

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Speaker 1: I would pay. I would pay to see those guys race. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I would too, I hear you. I mean, yes, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but again, it shows you it's not about that always.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brady's one of the best pocket manipulators we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen in the sport, you know, as far as

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Speaker 1: moving around, always staying in throwing physician and having that

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Speaker 1: sixth sense of what's around him. So you know, again,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be fast. If you could have

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Speaker 1: quick feet and great body control and understand a few

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Speaker 1: techniques of throwing the football, you can be really dangerous,

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Speaker 1: just like Dan Marino. I mean Dan Marino. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he could have beat me, you know in a

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Speaker 1: race if I ran backwards at my prime, But damn

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Speaker 1: he can move those feet and fire that ball. It's

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Chris, I hope your status

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Speaker 1: with your dad improves a little bit. We'll see, We'll

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Speaker 1: see what I can do. I don't know. I hope

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Speaker 1: I'm still in the trust and can get some money

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Speaker 1: when when he's done. Who gets the Super Bowl? R Oh? Hopefully?

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Speaker 1: I just want Super Bowl twenty one. Hopefully I should

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Speaker 1: get it. I was, you know, my brother wasn't alive yet,

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Speaker 1: so he shouldn't qualify for that. My sister was only two.

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Speaker 1: I was the only one there at the game. I

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Speaker 1: should get that for sure. Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Sims,

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live co host. Your phone call is

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Speaker 1: coming up next, Damian Lillard. Top of the hour here

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Speaker 1: on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The

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Speaker 1: Show National Hot Dog Day. We decided to go get

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Speaker 1: some hot dogs, throw him on the trigger. I think

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Speaker 1: some sour crowd as well, maybe some onions as well,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like a nice little lunch pre lunch there,

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Speaker 1: brunch with some dogs there. Yeah. Pull remember back in

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Speaker 1: the day, we used to have commissioners seeg MLB commissioner

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Speaker 1: on maybe half a dozen times a year with different topics,

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Speaker 1: and we call us from the parking lot of his

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Speaker 1: local hot dog place, where he would get two dogs

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Speaker 1: and a coke and sit there comfortably in the back

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Speaker 1: of his car. Yeah, usually the final hour of the show,

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Speaker 1: and then he would be there getting ready to have lunch.

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Speaker 1: And his lunch was usually a hot dog. I think

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Speaker 1: I bought it for him one time. I paid for it.

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Speaker 1: There was less than ten bucks that I paid to

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Speaker 1: buy the commissioner hot dog. All right. A couple of

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Speaker 1: phone calls in here. Weston in Kansas City joins us, Hey, Weston,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? How's going? Damn?

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Speaker 1: Six two one eight? I actually shat they are getting

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Speaker 1: while goes fall behind. Um, yeah, I can't do it, Weston. Uh,

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Speaker 1: your your phone is breaking up? Uh? Jeff and detru Roy, Hey, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for me today? What up? Though?

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Speaker 1: One time for my people in chat row blasphemy, Dan, blasphemy.

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Speaker 1: How can you I'll put it to you like this,

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Speaker 1: It's like dropping a fat kid off at fat Cap

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Speaker 1: and a food truck asking for a deep dish pizza

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Speaker 1: in New York. I mean, all of these things you

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Speaker 1: just don't do. Jump that logo on a Detroit Pistons

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Speaker 1: uniform that it is just worse, man. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: really gotta help. No, right, it's it's it's it's horrible

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Speaker 1: question to you. My question to you is this, though,

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Speaker 1: do you see some type of let's say, hard knocks

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Speaker 1: deal coming out of the bubble, because I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: never seen anything like this. It would be interesting to

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Speaker 1: get like a behind the scenes perspective on what's going

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Speaker 1: on there, you know, the rookies trying to get acclimated

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Speaker 1: to what's going on. I can see a thirty to

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Speaker 1: thirty coming from this. Oh, I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a thirty for thirty on the entire sports year. Thank you, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: And sorry about your Pistons wearing the Michael Jordan logo.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's going to be a documentary and

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Speaker 1: we don't know how it ends. Where in the middle

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Speaker 1: of this. Who knows what's going to happen with college football,

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Speaker 1: pro football, you know, even high school football coming up

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Speaker 1: in the fall that you're going to probably have, you know,

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Speaker 1: some states that we're going to not have high school

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Speaker 1: football and maybe they move it to the spring. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they can move it to the spring. But I think

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Speaker 1: the entire year is one thirty for thirty, Yeah, Ton,

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Speaker 1: and how long baseball and basketball even last? We know

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Speaker 1: it's starting, but you know a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: specially baseball, they don't think they're gonna get anywhere near

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Speaker 1: the World Series. Well, I'm going to try to be

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Speaker 1: optimistic with this and hopefully they have the safety precautions

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Speaker 1: in place. It's it's been a pretty good week for

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Speaker 1: testing and you know, hopefully we've learned some things and

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Speaker 1: that you know that that that's just going to be

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Speaker 1: what is required, and you've got to be vigilant. They're

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Speaker 1: going to have to be vigilant. There's no wiggle room.

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Speaker 1: Brian in Texas joints us Hey, Brian, what do you have?

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Speaker 1: But I just saw the looking on the Pittsburgh Blue

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Speaker 1: Jay's T shirt and I saw your reaction to seeing

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Speaker 1: it as well, maybe a little concern about another season

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Speaker 1: to assist letter, yeah, or possible lawsuit. I was going

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Speaker 1: to maybe suggest you removing or have them remove the

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Speaker 1: DP logo off the back. That way, if they had

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Speaker 1: come to you with that, you can say, hey, I

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Speaker 1: didn't do it, it it was the guy. Well, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't throw the Dannets under the bot. I mean

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Speaker 1: I can, but I choose not to. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: distance myself. Thank you, Brian. I had no prior knowledge

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Speaker 1: of that T shirt, but if you'd like to buy it,

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Speaker 1: it's on Dan Patrick. I can put the blame on

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Speaker 1: maybe one person, but I'm not going to Seaton. There

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Speaker 1: is no reason to do that. Nope, not at all.

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Speaker 1: All for one, one for all. We'll check in with

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Speaker 1: the Blazers. Damian Lillard join us from the Bubble. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: Final hour Dan Patrick Show