WEBVTT - How Peanut Butter Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff you should know a production of my

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<v Speaker 1>heart radios how stuff works. Hey, and welcome to peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter jelly time. I'm Josh. There's Chuck. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry in a while. If you have seen Jerry, please

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<v Speaker 1>tell her to call home. Uh. And this is stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. Yeah, Jerry, she snata in a smoke

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<v Speaker 1>signal that said send to me. So she did, she did,

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<v Speaker 1>and we send some on donkey back in that general janction.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you peanut butter or jelly in this scenario? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be peanut buttered. You always make me be jelly. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should level set here at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's talk about if you like peanut butter, which

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<v Speaker 1>is your favorite? And then what you like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you utilize it? Okay, my name is Josh C. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love peanut butter. Okay, almost only smooth. I will

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<v Speaker 1>eat chunky if the if civilization has collapsed and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I can find, I eat it anyway, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes just peanut butter on a spoon. Sometimes peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>and a spoon with a little divit made with my

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<v Speaker 1>tongue filled with local honey. Um. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get tubby really fast. Let me introduce you to the

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<v Speaker 1>wonder that is a spoonful of peanut butter scooped in

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<v Speaker 1>some cool whip. Um. But really, any kind of peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter anytime, I will eat it. And I've noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>once I reached my forties, peanut butter sticks around me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than it used to. So I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a real struggle with it. Thank you for listening. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you want to buzz market your favorite brand? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>We use this JIF natural that's like um uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>liking a brown container and I like it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never I've purposely never looked at the label because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know how natural it is. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But my all time favorite is Reese's peanut butter. Like

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<v Speaker 1>have you had it you mean in the jar? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so good. I think I've had it once.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was raised on Jeff, Now go well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised on whatever the gigantic gallon tub is that

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<v Speaker 1>you used to get indies. Yeah, I don't remember. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was any of those name brands. Um. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I love peanut butter. It's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things in the world. Uh, and I will go

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<v Speaker 1>crunchy or smooth, no matter. I love them both. I

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<v Speaker 1>also like it with honey. Um. I like it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do this much obviously because it's just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not nineteen years old, but a peanut butter and mayonnaise

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich is one of the best things in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've never had that, is it? Is it good? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any QUEPI? Yes, peanut butter and cupe sammy, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so half and half or more peanut butter than mayo

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<v Speaker 1>or what it's kind of your am. I definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>go light on the mayo because you've gotta have that tang. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut butter and marshmallow fluff I used to eat when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid stuff fluff or nutter and um.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't eat the sugary hydrogenated types. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>either have one of the sort of artisan natural kinds

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<v Speaker 1>you have to mix up or just did cab Farmers

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<v Speaker 1>Market grinds the peanuts right in front of your face

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<v Speaker 1>into a tub and and it to you right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your face, and it says beat it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't have any of this, so that's just peanuts obviously. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit of salt. Do they had any salders?

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<v Speaker 1>They're really just peanuts. It's just peanuts. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they salt the peanuts when they roast them thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've always seen like peanuts with just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of salt, like you can't have peanut butter any other way.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe maybe they figured out they cracked the code. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they may be salted and roasted. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about the peanut, but it's good. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to mix, you know. I gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of honey in there, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a gabba to give it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a sweet. Oh that's a good idea. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask you. I've not had any artisan stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and I did a little research and found a couple

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<v Speaker 1>I want to try um, and I didn't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>is it is it just straight up adult kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff where you're like, oh, that's really good, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>wishing that you had like the Nasty Big three brand instead. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you don't add any sweet nerve, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not nearly as good as you know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think the naturals are all kind of the same as

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<v Speaker 1>far as sweetness level. Yeah, the best I could discern

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you're paying for artisan craft peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>and buddy you're paying, you're like supposedly to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the kind of peanuts that are chosen, the

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<v Speaker 1>variety of peanuts, um, the way that it's roasted, almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a coffee or a wine or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a sophisticated palette or tear war that you

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<v Speaker 1>really have to pay attention to. That to me is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the opposite of what peanut butter is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. It's supposed to just be like this dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>messy thing where you know, your hair is totally normal,

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<v Speaker 1>and you start eating the peanut butter and you suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>have like a cowlick and you're wearing a striped shirt

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<v Speaker 1>that shows your gut kind of thing. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just regress an age. But I also get wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy peanut butter in a healthy way, because it

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<v Speaker 1>is surprisingly from from what I saw, it is healthier

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<v Speaker 1>than you would suspect if done right. Yes, not not

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<v Speaker 1>a big glob of Peter pan with cuping cuping mayonnaise

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<v Speaker 1>and potato chips smashed in between white bread. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm hungry now I am too. I already had

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<v Speaker 1>some peanut butter this morning, so I'm good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But this thing, this is like the Yawning episode where

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<v Speaker 1>I kept yawning doing research. This is I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter the whole time. Well, peanut butter for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that has now become my uh in my since January,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to lose some weight, so that's become

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<v Speaker 1>my sweet treat at the end of the night instead

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<v Speaker 1>of going and getting ice cream, Just like a spoonful

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<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter and honey, and that'll satiate that desire.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you in a while. How's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. I mean I'm down twenty since January, but

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<v Speaker 1>really leveled off the past month. Congratulations, dude, that is

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<v Speaker 1>really impressive. Just forty more to go, man, No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really great, man, Just just yeah, yeah, it does plateau,

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<v Speaker 1>but it picks up again. Don't want plateaus because of

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<v Speaker 1>quarantine alcoholism. Oh well, I was going to ask, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finding that that quarantining has made things like we

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have food and everything, but we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>eating it less for some reason rather than the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>which both you, me and I were really concerned was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the way it went. Um, are you

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<v Speaker 1>finding it easier to keep up with food or harder?

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<v Speaker 1>Easier because I'm cooking a lot um cheese and buzz

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<v Speaker 1>marketing again. But you know, I'm just having one of

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<v Speaker 1>those Mike's Mighty Goods for lunch which is very low

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<v Speaker 1>in calories. Yeah, it's really good to uh, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just tracking the calories and it's it's alcohol that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. Right now, I got you. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing one or two nights a week tops, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a couple of nights. I've been pretty good now

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<v Speaker 1>that I think about it. It's good. Yeah, because this

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<v Speaker 1>has been fairly stressful, but I haven't been stressed eating

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<v Speaker 1>too much. So okay, anyway, peanut butter here to me Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Early on, we happened upon the fact of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask me, this is very jarring, if you'll

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<v Speaker 1>forgive the pun, that peanut butter outside of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of different countries is looked upon as

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<v Speaker 1>very weird and gross in much the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>we Americans tend to think of like vegemite. People like

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<v Speaker 1>the British, Chinese other countries do not think peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>is particularly good. They think it's a little nasty. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that just blew me away to read that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want to talk to some people before I let

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<v Speaker 1>some internet website tell me that people think peanut butter

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<v Speaker 1>screw us, some some website push your brain around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to talk to some folks about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least, even if they don't think it's gross,

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<v Speaker 1>it it is a an all American thing, Like even

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<v Speaker 1>countries that do enjoy it. I've read that Australia actually

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<v Speaker 1>likes it a lot. Um. It's an American concoction so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that like it might be the most American

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<v Speaker 1>concoction there is, to tell you the truth. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you make a good point here. You put this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff together that mac and cheese came from Europe, hot

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<v Speaker 1>dogs came from Europe. Uh, sort of Hamburgers, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that the hamburgers we know it is

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty American, but peanut butter just us as far

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<v Speaker 1>as modern times go, Yeah, I think that the Inca

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifteenth century used to grind peanuts into a

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<v Speaker 1>paste and then that was it until the nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>when one of our buddies, who's gonna make a cameo

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<v Speaker 1>later um, got his hands on the idea. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an American invention, except it was actually Canadian,

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<v Speaker 1>as we'll see. But for for the most part, people

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<v Speaker 1>think of it as all American. Um. And to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about peanut butter, Chuck, we kind of have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about peanuts. There's really no way around it. Believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to, but we have to. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you mean Goober's. Have you ever heard somebody outside of

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<v Speaker 1>TV call them that? Not really, but I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing, but I don't. It's not in the

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<v Speaker 1>just daily nomenclature of my crowd, but it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly like a Southern and I guess an antiquated Southern

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<v Speaker 1>word for peanut, a goober or goober. P Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard goober and that old song about the raisinets goober, Well, goober's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also a candy, right, Yeah, And there's smuckers goobers,

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<v Speaker 1>which is peanut, butter and jelly mixed together in a jar. M.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually good, is it? Yeah? Even as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is gonna be gross, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I tried. I was like, not bad, not bad. Smuckers.

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<v Speaker 1>See pretty discerning with my jams and jellies. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>for another day. Though you would not like this, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would. You would like suckers, And if you're at

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<v Speaker 1>all discerning, you would not like it. Alright. So peanuts

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<v Speaker 1>is a it's a legume. It's also called a ground

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<v Speaker 1>nut or an earth nut, and just like a little

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<v Speaker 1>or a pea, it is a little lagum and not

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<v Speaker 1>a nut. No, I'm a big fan of peanuts though

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<v Speaker 1>I like to eat them pretty much anyway. You can

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<v Speaker 1>slice it from boiled too, straight up, raw out of

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<v Speaker 1>the shell um like honey, roasted, salted and roasted, and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly in peanut butter. So Momo and I go and

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<v Speaker 1>visit squirrels whenever we can when we go on walks,

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<v Speaker 1>and we always take peanuts, and I read you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to take roasted unsalted peanuts, so we get like big

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<v Speaker 1>bags of those, and if there's no squirrels out, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to eat all peanuts. Oh yeah, yeah, mo will

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<v Speaker 1>give me a look like does are not for you?

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<v Speaker 1>But they usually end up in my tummy. Anyway, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever seen a squirrel will stick one of those

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<v Speaker 1>in his mouth sideways are cute? Yeah, we will like

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<v Speaker 1>all shell them and then throw like the actual peanut

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<v Speaker 1>in the squirrel. Somehow we'll know that there's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be another one coming because they'll very they'll frequently put

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<v Speaker 1>one in his cheek and then like be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>toss me the other one. Then I'll take that run

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<v Speaker 1>off and like eat it with his two little hands.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really adorable, right, Or they might stick around to

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<v Speaker 1>see if it's one of the rare three bangers, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just that's a good squirrel day right there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So these things are lagoons, and we think they originated

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<v Speaker 1>in South America. You mentioned Peru, even though we cannot

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<v Speaker 1>prove that through the fossil record, but they have found

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in the archaeological um culture from Peru from about

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years ago. And it was sort of one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things where they found um the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>were farming this stuff and then when you see it

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<v Speaker 1>in like artwork and pottery and stuff like that. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's sort of a thing. Yeah, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>peanut has arrived. When it shows up on pottery, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they've also found him, I guess, entombed with mummies

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<v Speaker 1>from the Inca and the Aztecs. Um which makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because when the uh conquistadors arrived, the Spanish and the

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<v Speaker 1>Portuguese to South America and Central America, they found peanuts

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<v Speaker 1>being grown as far north as Mexico, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the first place they encountered them was actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>Caribbean um and they took him back with with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They took him to Spain, and Spain passed him along

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of Europe and the Philippines and China.

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<v Speaker 1>Um the Portuguese took it back to again to Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to India and Africa, and peanuts started to

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<v Speaker 1>be farmed all over the world, like the world loves peanuts,

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<v Speaker 1>is just not necessarily peanut butter that they're crazy about.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, in a really kind of weird, surprising twist,

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<v Speaker 1>the peanuts were re exported back to the America's from

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<v Speaker 1>Africa as part of the West African slave trade. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually that goober that Southern word goober they think comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a Congolese word or congo with a K word

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<v Speaker 1>in Guba. Yeah, pretty surprising, sure, goober and Guba close enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But to think like the peanut, you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>peanut is as just American as it comes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>even as Georgia as it comes. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have been here had it not been for

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<v Speaker 1>the importation of African slaves that reintroduced the peanut to

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<v Speaker 1>the America's that's a pretty circuitous and weird route for

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<v Speaker 1>it to take. Yeah, and Africa still grows about of

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<v Speaker 1>the peanuts in the world. Weird just below that at

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<v Speaker 1>about here in the States. And it took all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to eighteen forty two that we started growing them

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<v Speaker 1>commercially in the US. UH in Virginia's where it first

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<v Speaker 1>started for oil and food and UH to substitute out

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<v Speaker 1>for cocoa. And it wasn't it just wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like for people that didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the means to buy something better or maybe feed it

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<v Speaker 1>to your animals or something like that. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>good for livestock and the poverty stricken basically was who

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<v Speaker 1>were expected to eat peanuts at the time. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like like lobster. Have you ever read Considered

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<v Speaker 1>the Lobster? That? Um? Wow, man, I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>David Lee Roth so bad, but I know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>his name at all. Who wrote Consider the Lobster? I've

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<v Speaker 1>never heard of that. But who who was end of

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<v Speaker 1>tour about that movie of David Foster Wallace? Sure? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote this really great magazine article once called Consider

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<v Speaker 1>the Consider the Lobster. It's good, but in it he

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<v Speaker 1>explains that it used to be considered a food fit

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<v Speaker 1>only for the poor. Basically, I guess peanuts were considered

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<v Speaker 1>the same. That's right. Uh, you know they were uh

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<v Speaker 1>c spiders, yeah, or the cockroaches of the sea. It

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of gross when you think of it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>In apparent only, there was a law that said that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you could only feed so much lobster to patients and

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<v Speaker 1>mental asylums at the time, or else it became abusive. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't know what did they try him on a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog bun with mayonnaise. So one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why the peanut was viewed as such a lowly crop

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<v Speaker 1>was that it was again it was used for oil

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<v Speaker 1>and um, which I mean this wasn't necessarily just cooking oil.

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<v Speaker 1>They would use it to lubricate machinery, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea of eating the same thing that your

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<v Speaker 1>machinery lube came from, it was probably not super appetizing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was also like you would get just basically

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<v Speaker 1>trash when you got a bag of peanuts, because there

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<v Speaker 1>was no easy way to harvest it, stem them, clean them,

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<v Speaker 1>and prepare them for basically general consumption. Which so again

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<v Speaker 1>you could just dump it into a trough and feeded

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<v Speaker 1>to your livestock, or you could spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time trying to separate it, or you could just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not messing with this. And for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time they didn't mess with it. Actually, Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil War happened, the Union soldiers got their hands

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<v Speaker 1>on some of our southern peanuts and they said these

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<v Speaker 1>are delicious, and both armies ate a lot of peanuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the circus rolled around with P. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum Hugh Jackman, they started selling peanuts there hot roasted peanuts,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in the cheap seats, they become known as

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<v Speaker 1>the pet peanut gallery, and that's where that phrase came

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<v Speaker 1>came from, which is kind of interesting. Yeah, because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't like what they saw, they would toss

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<v Speaker 1>their peanuts there that they were eating at the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where peanut gallery came from. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got them on the street corners, you've got them

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<v Speaker 1>at baseball games. Peanuts are starting to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>traction as a snack, but they were still not. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still hard to get like a really good

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<v Speaker 1>quality peanuts because, like you said, the way they were

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<v Speaker 1>being harvested at the time by hands, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>tough to do. And then so too African Americans. UM

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<v Speaker 1>around the turn of the last century, UM stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>and basically said, we're going to make the peanut what

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<v Speaker 1>it is today. So one obviously was George Washington Carver,

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<v Speaker 1>who's known as basically the father of the peanut UM,

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<v Speaker 1>who actually, contrary to popular belief, did not invent peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did come up with more than three different

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<v Speaker 1>ways to use the peanut. And I never realized like

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<v Speaker 1>why he was so bonkers for peanuts, but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons he was trying to make the peanut established

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<v Speaker 1>it as a prominent crop was because the South had

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<v Speaker 1>depleted its soil so badly from growing cotton for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, at the worst of this um

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<v Speaker 1>there was a bowl weevil outbreak that just ruined the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the cotton crops. So the South really needed

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<v Speaker 1>something to replace cotton. And George Washington Carver helped introduce

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<v Speaker 1>and popularized peanuts and say, not only can you eat

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<v Speaker 1>these things, look at all this other stuff you can

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<v Speaker 1>make out of them. That's right. Uh. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>another guy around the same time named Ben Hicks, Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin Hicks. He was from Virginia and which we already

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<v Speaker 1>talked about being a big peanut state. And he invented

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<v Speaker 1>a gas powered machine for cleaning and stemming these things.

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<v Speaker 1>He got it patented, Uh, like a lot of well

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<v Speaker 1>it still goes on, I guess with with a little

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<v Speaker 1>guy and their patents. Um big farm came around and

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<v Speaker 1>a farm equipment company challenged him. He actually had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to court, but one the case in nineteen o one,

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<v Speaker 1>and this picker was a big, big deal in modernizing

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<v Speaker 1>peanut farming, and all of a sudden you could get

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<v Speaker 1>really good peanuts a lot quicker doesn't take as many

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<v Speaker 1>hands or are man hours or person hours, and the

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<v Speaker 1>demand for peanuts, for oil for eating them, and peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter and candy all just kind of went through the

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<v Speaker 1>roof at that point. Yeah. Yeah, because you could you

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<v Speaker 1>could get your hands on good peanuts. They were widely

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<v Speaker 1>available and they were just delicious. Everyone saw finally how

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<v Speaker 1>great peanuts are, but not peanut butter yet. And I proposed, Charles,

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<v Speaker 1>did we take a break and then come back really

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<v Speaker 1>dig into the peanut butter. Let's do it, okay, in

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<v Speaker 1>things and choosh and shock, so okay. So, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the INCA probably had us beat as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>invention of peanut butter went um. But it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a Canadian who they think was probably the actual inventor

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<v Speaker 1>of modern peanut butter, a guy who I had never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of before. His name was Marcellus Gilmore Edson Wallace.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding, by the last part. It was just that

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<v Speaker 1>was going Marcellus Gilbore Edson. You just can't say the

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<v Speaker 1>name Marcellis and not followed up with Wallace somewhere. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it really has become like peanut butter and jelly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he patented a paste made of peanuts in four,

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<v Speaker 1>which was described by him and his patent as uh

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<v Speaker 1>at room temperature, having a consistency like that of butter, lard,

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<v Speaker 1>or ointment. It sounds gross, but when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter, that's kind of about right. He added sugar

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<v Speaker 1>to stabilize it a little bit, and this was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the first modern peanut butter that we think of.

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<v Speaker 1>His peanut butter. It's sold for about six cents a pound,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty good price. Yeah, and if you from

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<v Speaker 1>what I can tell just reading about it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>tried it today, you'd be like, yeah, it's peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas if you tried some of the other stuff, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, yeah, that's the artisan peanut butter. It's punished, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the other stuff was first developed. So it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me that there's in the first try, right out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, the guy who invents peanut butter basically

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<v Speaker 1>invents the modern version of it, and then it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a big step backwards or sideways, I guess you can say,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on your viewpoint. When our buddy doctor John Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>Kellogg comes along, and if you'll remember from the live

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<v Speaker 1>show we did on the Kellogg Brothers. He invented nut butters,

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular peanut butter is considered one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main inventors of peanut butter. Well, yeah it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was right up his alley, because, um, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>might be my favorite live show we've done. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so PR was my favorite. PR. Howney, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that you did. Yeah, that was a good

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<v Speaker 1>one you did. I think those are my top two?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Pinto's Man, what about Cooper? Those might be

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<v Speaker 1>the first four? Name what else have we done? Malls bars?

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<v Speaker 1>We did the secret one that is still supposedly on

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<v Speaker 1>tour but on High eight US right now, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's it. I think that's all. Well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with John Harvey Kellogg because he uh as if

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to that when he was very big on

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<v Speaker 1>chewing food until it was the consistency of peanut butter basically,

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<v Speaker 1>and so peanut butter comes along and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is perfect because you don't have to chew it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it's already like that. It'll just glad right

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<v Speaker 1>through your system and come out as delicious. Peanut butter poop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it won't poison your entire body and you won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to spend any time in the electric light bath

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<v Speaker 1>for the needing machine. So Dr Kellogg creates basically what

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<v Speaker 1>we would recognize today as the um the artisan version

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<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter. It's just ground up peanuts that form

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<v Speaker 1>a paste, and apparently that's just a natural thing that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you put roasted peanuts in food processor, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn like gritty and everything. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>just keep going, it eventually reaches this point, this threshold

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<v Speaker 1>where that grit turns into this oily paste like peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>like um an ointment, like Marcellis Wallace would call it,

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<v Speaker 1>and um that's basically what John Harvey Kellogg did and

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<v Speaker 1>served at Battle Creek. But most of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>would have been exposed to peanut butter would not have

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<v Speaker 1>tried John Kellogg's because you know, that sanitarium was really

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<v Speaker 1>expensive and it was for the wealthy, it was for celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>So most people experience peanut butter at one or two places.

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<v Speaker 1>And Chuck I really found out in researching this that

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<v Speaker 1>the history of peanut butter is super murky. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a smooth full of peanut butter stirred up in a

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<v Speaker 1>glass of water kind of murky, right where it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chriss, where it's just not entirely clear who did

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<v Speaker 1>what when, who's um contribution has been disproportionately mytholologized. But

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<v Speaker 1>from what I can tell, John Harvey Kellogg is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>one of the fathers of peanut butter um. Mr. Marcellus

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<v Speaker 1>was one as well. And then it gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>murkier after that, so much so that people say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter made his debut at the nineteen o four St.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis World's Fair, and then other people are like, no, no,

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that's way wrong. It made its debut at the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>World's Fair, And I can find good credible sources that

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<v Speaker 1>say either one. So I have no idea where it

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<v Speaker 1>made his debut. I believe it was sold for sure

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<v Speaker 1>at the St. Louis World Fair in nineteen o four,

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<v Speaker 1>and that a guy named um C. H. Summers sold

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty dollars worth of peanut butter as snack items there,

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<v Speaker 1>but that the people who ate it there had probably

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<v Speaker 1>already been exposed to peanut butter and liked it. It

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<v Speaker 1>might not have been something that was part of like

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 1>their everyday thing. They weren't standing in their pantry eating

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>it off of a spoon, but they had probably had

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<v Speaker 1>it before, and this is like a real treat for

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>them too to experience it. It It wasn't like debuted in

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen o four from what I can tell right, well,

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 1>we're regardless of who introduced it initially. By nineteen oh seven,

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>thanks to companies like Hinz and beech Nut, they were

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>selling thirty four million pounds of peanut butter, up from

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>just two million in eighteen nine, So over an eight

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>year period, that's that's a pretty big increase. And the

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>soldiers come into play again. It wasn't just the Civil

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>War and World Wars one and two. Um, And I've

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>had peanut butter k rations before. Uh huh. It's my

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>dad used to get that stuff a lot when I

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>was a kid for camping and stuff at the Army

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Navy store. So, uh, it became a big part of

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.119
<v Speaker 1>your your army rations and the armed forces because I

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of protein. It was good sustenance. You

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>can make a P B and J and that was

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty comforting. If you were on the front lines or

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>in a trench. In World War One, supposedly they popularized

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the pban a the troops did. That's right, and thank

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>them for that. Oh, I will all salute the troops

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>for that one. But it was pretty regional at the

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 1>time in the early twenties century. Uh, it didn't travel

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that great. Um. They finally let you know, I mentioned

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>hydrogenized earlier. It was this hydrogenation, is that right? That

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>really led to the Big Three coming about with the

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>industrialization of peanut butter production. And three gentlemen named Peter, Pan, Skippy,

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and Jeff, which I was curious about Jeff, where that

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>came from? And all I found was that they said

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's easy to spell, easy to say, and easy to remember.

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It's true all three of those, and had no meaning

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>beyond that basically. Really, I would have guessed I had

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>something to do with, you know, like doing it in

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>a jiff or jiffy or something. Huh, I mean, you know,

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've got to be in the room, I

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>guess to know where the seed came from. But they

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just said it was simple and super easy, and uh,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of the end of that story. The

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>good night. No, I'm with you. I do too. I'm

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of mad right now. But we've gotta we gotta

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 1>press on UM with hydrogenation, right because there's this guy

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>named John Crampner, and he wrote a book called The

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Creamy and Crunchy all about peanut butter, and he basically

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>points that saying like that that's that was the turning

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>point for peanut butter, maybe even tied for first with

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>its invention. UM was the introduction of hydrogenation, which takes

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>oils that are liquid at room temperature and as hydrogen

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and a catalyst, usually like powdered nickel, and those those

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>bonds become infused or saturated with hydrogen and so they

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>stick together a lot more easily. So those liquid oils

0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>have a um more stable um solid state at room temperature.

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So you go from like peanut butter with oil on top,

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to peanut butter that doesn't have oil on top of

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the oils mixed into the mixture, and it stays that

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>way even on the store shelf, which people love because

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, from eating artist and peanut butter,

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a pain to stir it up. I

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>mean that that initial stir is a little dodgy because

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it's so close to the lid. But um, you just

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>have to have the right spoon, take your time to

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>be in a rush. Uh. And you know, shelf life

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>stability is super important with peanut butter because only monsters

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>put their peanut butter in the refrigerator. Who does that?

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Who point them out to me? Monsters who like you've

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>met somebody who's done that before. I think that was

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in a Judge John hand been listener mail at one point. Uh.

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a major case, but I

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>think it was one of their one of their listener

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>man ones. But totally totally think it should be on

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the shelf. That's where it belongs. Um. Although I will

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>say if you mix a little P, B and J

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>with a natural kind and you put it in the

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>fridge because you've had your two bites and you made

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>too much the next day, it is interesting. It's more

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like a Reese's cup consistency. It's kind of hard. Uh.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It makes for a nice little snack, but it's certainly

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>not anything that you can spread on bread right right. Well.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing too, is if the oils are

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>mixed into the solids that forms this creamier substance that

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>makes it way easier to spread, which moms love. Right.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.479
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing it does too is with

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>all of those hydrogen atoms linked on to the fat

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>chains the lipids, um, there's not all these unused or

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>open bonds that an oxygen atom can come along and

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>bond too, and um oxidize the peanut butter, which creates peroxide,

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>which gives it a rancid taste. So hydrogenation not only

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>made peanut butter um less liquid e more creamy, it

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>also may it last longer. Like sitting on the shelf

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>before it was sold and used, it wouldn't turn rants

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and nearly as fast, So it was a big deal.

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>The problem is is that took peanut butter, which is

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of healthy with a mono unsaturated fat that

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>liquid oil and turned it into saturated or partially saturated

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>saturated fat, which is really tough on the old ticker. Yeah,

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.479
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'd stay away from that stuff. I mean,

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it's so good. Um, but yeah, I just I made

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the switch many years ago. Good for you, Jack. Yeah,

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the hydrogenated outsold natural for the first time in forty

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>two and accounts for about of the current market Peter Pan,

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, I don't think I've ever had

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Peter Pan. It's not bad unless it was just at

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a friend's house or something. I don't think we ever

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>had it in our house. Peter Pan makes a natural

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>one too, and I mean I'm making air quotes um

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>like Jiff does, and it's I think it might even

0:30:55.280 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>be better than Jiff's natural version. I think Emily likes

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the Smuckers Natural, but I also got some. Uh, I

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>can't remember the brand. It's one of the one of

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the other natural brands. They're they're all pretty good. I

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think so was when peter Pan rolled out and was

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the first which I didn't know was the first major brand.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>It was the biggest seller at the time. Uh. It

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>used that partial hydrogenation process that was patented by a

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>guy named Joseph rose Field from Kentucky. And then that's

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>where Jeff Skippy came from. Peter Pan's parent company said

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to cut your licensing fee. He said, I'm

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>done with you, and I'm gonna go out and I'm

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna make Skippy on my own. And by the end

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of his career he had tin patents, not just for

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter, but relating to food, and he was just

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a Chevy Chase in vacation movies. He

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>was a food scientist. Yeah, what was it The thing

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that he learned code of flake with that he used

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on this lead some sort of non nutritional I can't remember.

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll figure it out. No need to email everyone, No

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>need to email, I want to hear. I want every

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>email for about this. I think it was called a

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>non nutritional coding, is what he called it. But but yeah,

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>he was very much like that. But he was also way, way,

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>way better than anything Chevy Chase could ever be because

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>he was a really great boss. He um paid his

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>his workers really well, and in creating the Skippy brand,

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>he broke off from this kind of um this corporate

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>overlord that he he worked for was keeping him under

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>his thumb and then trying to um short change him. Uh,

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and said, you know what, by creating Skippy, I'm going

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to not only challenge you, Peter Pan, I'm going to

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>become the best selling peanut butter there is from like

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty to nineteen eighty, like Skippy was it. And

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I just missed the Skippy train. So I'm wondering like

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if I had been, you know, born in nineteen s

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and d if I would have been raised on Skippy.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>But I came along at the jiff Era really yeah,

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>he said in your face, and they said, I love

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter in my face, and he went, oh, I

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta think of a new comeback, you know, Chuck. One

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that's always bothered me about Peter Pan is do

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you remember that jingle where it's like, eat some peanut

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>butter anytime you can. It's like, oh, that's nice, and

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>then they follow it up with but only if it's

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Peter Pan, like it's got kind of this like if

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't have you, no one can psychotic mentality to it. Yeah.

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.479
<v Speaker 1>I never I never heard that song, so I never

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>really thought about that. Do you didn't watch the television

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in the ninet nineties. I did. I don't remember that

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>one though, But I mean I was in the nineties.

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in college, so I probably wasn't. I don't

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>even think we had cable. I didn't watch much TV

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>in college. Uh, so Skippy is doing great. Peter Pan

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is just like, well, I guess I'll just have to

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>be second banana and Skippy, and Jeff said, do you

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like being third banana because that's where you're headed. That

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>same year, in nineteen fifty five, this is when rose

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Field sold Uh Skippy to Best Foods. Procter and Gamble

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>bought Big Top Peanut from William T. Young, also of Kentucky,

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and then they became Jeff uh and they held that

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>brand until two thousand one, two thousand two. Yeah, I

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>did not know that. But wait two thousand one, two

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand two when they sold the Smuckers. Okay, but Jeff

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>is still the number one brand today, right as far

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>as I know. Okay, Yeah, that's that's my understanding too.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were saying like it was the number

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>one brand until then, but yeah, from from I think

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>night two today it's it's number one. Yeah, and they

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of uh, I think they all do.

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>But Jeff alone has fifteen different kinds of peanut butter,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of nuts. If you look at their lists,

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>They've got all kinds of different crazy peanut butters out there. Now, well,

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>nuts is just and variety. Well they all have peanuts

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in it, but yeah, well they have they have a

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>good almond butter too. Yeah, I can. I can get

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>down with some almond butter. You know what, buddy, I'm

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna buy you some. When we see each other again,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be brandishing a jar of Jiff almond butter

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>for you. You You know, it's not good. What is? Uh?

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You know you can't take peanut butter sandwiches into classrooms anymore,

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>or at least it, you know at my kids preschool,

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and um, of course you can't take anything in there

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>anymore because it's closed. But you have to make um,

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>you have to make it with what a cheese. I

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>used to chew these things all the time. What a

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>baseball players chew? Sunflower seeds? Sunflower butter? That's good too.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I've had that. It's not bad. Oh, I do not

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>care for it. So you don't like it? Huh? I

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's all right. I guess wow. I'm I really

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like basically any kind of butters, including just butter butter. Well, yeah,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>butter is great, But I just cannot get down with

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the sunflower sun flower. Yeah, yeah, no, it totally and

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely there's a taste of sunflower to it, like

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>you could have no idea what you're eating and somebody

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>gives it to you, and you would be like that

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>sunflower butter, isn't it. I love sunflower seeds though. That

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>was a big thing in college for a little while.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>We would sit around and, you know, just put a

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>mouthful of sunflower seeds on our mouth. Yeah, I remember

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>the sunflower trend quite well. Remember that. And you would, Yeah,

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you would crack them open with your teeth and you

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>would spit out the shell and then swallow the seed

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that you want, the seed and swallow it. So I

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>would eat the whole thing. You know, you didn't eat

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the shell. Yeah, this is I would eat the whole thing.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And that would smoke a whole cigar and in halee it.

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>You're a very bad squirrel. And then you would drown,

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>drown your lawn and water. Yeah, and you would sit

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>back and say, I'm doing life just right. Yeah, I

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>got it all figured out. Would you really eat the

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>shells still due to this day? Really? Yeah. And it's

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of dangerous because every once in a while there's

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>like one part to it that's just a spear and

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you can go right into your gums if you're not careful.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty good at it, but every once in a

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>a while and be like, um, I think I'm bleeding. Well,

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>here's how I eat peanuts when I go to the

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>ball game. I stick the whole peanut in my mouth,

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 1>uh huh, like a squirrel, and I kind of suck

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>on it for a second and get that salty goodness,

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and then I crack it open with my teeth and

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I pull it out of my mouth and then dump

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the peanuts in and throw away the shells. And then

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>between every bite you have to coat your lips with

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>lip balm because it's so dried and cracked it is

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty salty. But the only time I eight peanuts in

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the shell like that is in a baseball game. So

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>now I do something similar, but it's with peanut M

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and m's. I will like crack the peanut M and

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>M in half and expose the peanut in your teeth, yes,

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and then eat that the the freed chocolate shell side,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and then eat the other chocolate shelled side from around

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the peanut, and then I eat the peanut by itself.

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? Are you serious? I'm dead serious. I

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>can't remember the last time I ate a peanut eminem

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>without doing that with every single one. All right, here's

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 1>what I'll do sometimes with peanut eminem's. Okay, we should

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:17.959
<v Speaker 1>just have a side gig where we just talk about

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:22.439
<v Speaker 1>our stupid quirks. It's part of the podcast I put.

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I'll just a MoU on them like there's

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>no tomorrow. But sometimes I will, and this helps me

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>eat fewer of them because I will pop on it

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>or two in my mouth and I'll just let him

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>sit there and marinate in my saliva. Yeah, and swirl

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>them around and then that candy coating kind of melts

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>away a little bit and makes it like a really

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>soft little crunch Yep. I know, I know what you mean.

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>You know that move. It's really good. I do that too,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>But usually I'm a little less patient than that. It's

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, maybe when I'm like, you know,

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I have a whole tupperware bowl full of peanut eminem's,

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I might go crazy like that. All right, So let's

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>should we take a break or should we wait a second? Yeah,

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 1>let's do that. Let's take a break things and chop

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Josh and shock. Alright, So where we left off was

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Jeff was killing it. You and I have very weird

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>eating habits, and Jeff starts killing it. They start putting

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sugar and molasses in there. Everyone else followed suit, and

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>finally in the nineteen sixties, the f d A stood

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>up and said, hold on a minute, guys, this stuff

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>you're calling peanut butter is junk food. Now, uh, there's

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>one leading brand. I'm not going to name names. It

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>was only s actual peanuts. He's like, so you gotta

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>start putting peanuts in the whole thing. The peanut butter

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>lobby said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How about And

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>they said, we're the FDA, We meet people in the middle.

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's settle on peanuts and peanut butter. And since ninety

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 1>one that's been the standard. Yeah, I think, like, um,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.240
<v Speaker 1>this went on for a dozen years. There's a really

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>interesting article on today I found out called the Momentous

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Peanut Butter Hearings. It's definitely worth reading. But it just

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>was nuts, how literally nuts how long this went on for.

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>And then finally it's just kind of heartening that the

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>FDA was like, no, that's as low as we're going.

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Make sure that your peanut butter has peanuts. Good day

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to you. Sir, And that was that finally, and then

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it became enforced in nineteen seventy two UM and still

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>today there is a federal legal definition for what constitutes

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter. And one the first things is it has

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>to have peanuts in it. That's right, because that is

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>still the standard. Uh. If it is smooth, it has

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to be very fine with an even texture and no

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>hint of grainy peanuts at all. If it's a medium,

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you can have a little grain to it, but nothing

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>larger than one sixteenth of an inch in dimension, and

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>then all bets are off. If you're crunchy, I don't

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who says chunky, but it's definitely crunchy. Yeah,

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that's like a type of Campbell soup. So crunchy can

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:38.399
<v Speaker 1>be larger than one and I guess I mean they're

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>all about the same size. Would be curious to see

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>if there are any kind of half sized peanuts. If

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it gets that chunky, oh yeah, like larger an yeah,

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like a half of a peanut, people would be like,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it's too chunky. I can't take it. Maybe, I mean

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 1>that's that's like candy bar level. It is. It is

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>so chuck what you've just said is the FED real

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>government's definition of the different varieties of peanut butter as

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>far as they're concerned. And I don't know if you

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>said it or not, but that guy Joseph rose Field

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>who who was the founder of Skippy, he actually created

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:16.760
<v Speaker 1>chunky sorry um, crunchy peanut butter. We both said crunchy,

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and now we're both saying chunky. I know it's kind

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>of stuck in my head, but he's the guy. If

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you like chunky peanut butter, first of all, shame on you.

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>But secondly, thank Joseph rose Field for that, because he

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>came up with it I think in the fifties. Yeah.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I like it all. Uh, there is

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>not a kind of peanut butter that that I won't eat.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:36.919
<v Speaker 1>I think it's all really good. So then I think

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>also the um the this kind of demonstrates just how

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>seriously Americans take peanut butter. The U. S. D A.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Goes on to say, there are other qualities that make

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a peanut butter either Grade A, Grade B or sub

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:55.919
<v Speaker 1>standard peanut butter. And it's my favorite. It's things like

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>um color. The color has to match certain color samples

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can only obtain from a company called Aggtron, Inc.

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Of Sparks, Nevada. This is in the two law that

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to write to Aggtron and say, can you

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>please send me the peanut butter colored standards because I

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>need to make sure that my peanut butter matches the U.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>S d A standards for color of peanut butter. They're online.

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Get with it while you're writing me a letter, right,

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a really good point. You do you email,

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>or you'd right back like, I don't know, can you

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>please send me the website you are l And then

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>they would. But when you get this color standard, you

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>can't just look at it wherever you have to. You

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>have to look at it with a at a light

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>with a color temperature of about seventy d calvin plus

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>or minus two hundred and fifty kelvin or something equal

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>to a moderately partly cloudy day. That's that's the government's

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>standard for judging the color of peanut butter. All I

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>can think of now somebody writing a handwritten letter to

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>someone asking for U r L. Someone with a ballpoint

0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>pin spelling out https slash slash. I looked up aggtron Inc.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>They're still around and they are on point many They've

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>been in business for I think about a century. But

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>they are all about like food analysis. If you're a

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>coffee roaster or barista or something, you can take their

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>online class. I think it's online. It's like a daylong

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 1>class that like really teaches you all like the science

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>behind the coffee you're selling and roasting and grinding. It's

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a really interesting company, it looks like. But that's if

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you start making peanut butter, you need to You need

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to write a letter to aggtron Ink asking for their

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>u are l and they will send you a laminated

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>sheet and a Manila envelope. So if you're talking peanut butter.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>In the United States, about half of the edible use

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of peanuts is from peanut butter um. Obviously peanut butters

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and a ton of It's one of my favorite parts

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of candy bars and stuff like that. I'm I'm a

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>sucker for any peanut butter ice creams, peanut butter candy bars.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just I can't get enough of that combination. Totally

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>with you, buddy, which, by the way, Joseph rose Field

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>was the skippy guy was the guy who came up

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>with that peanut butter and chocolate combo before Rees's did.

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But the National Peanut Board estimates that it takes about

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>five hundred and forty peanuts to make up one of

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>those twelve bounced jars, which is a lot of peanuts.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>That kind of surprised me. It was more than I thought. Yeah,

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>sit there and shell peanuts until you reach five hundred

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and forty individual peanuts, and you will have a sudden

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciation for your butter, you know what I mean for sure,

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But of course machines do that. But yeah, well, if

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>it's artisan, no, somebody wearing like a calico so wrong

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is doing it with my hand in Vermont? Uh, I

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think Vermont people are like, yeah, I think that's

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>my conception. Proved me wrong, Vermont. So in two thousand nine,

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about health aspects. There's a couple of parts

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to the health of it, of whether or not it's

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.919
<v Speaker 1>just good for you, which we'll get to. But also

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>there have been a couple of peanut butter incidents throughout

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the years in recent years that have scared people off

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.360
<v Speaker 1>from peanut butter a little bit. Uh. In two thousand

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 1>nine was the second one. There were five hundred people

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>who got sick and eight people died from eating peanut

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>butter from a plant in Blakely, Georgia. That was pretty

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>gross and not maintained well. I remember that, don't you.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember both of them. The other one was in

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven, and that was sam and Ella in

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>peter Pan and Great Value, both owned by ConAgra, and

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that got about six d and change sick, but nobody died.

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But I remember both of those. It was a big

0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>deal because peanut butter so ubiquitous. So there's also I

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize this until I started researching it. There's something

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:09.959
<v Speaker 1>called um aflatoxins. Have you heard of them? I think

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I did, back when all the stuff happened or not.

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>So there's there's a mold called Aspergillis that grows on

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>peanuts because peanuts are grown underground, right um and the

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Aspergillis can produce a toxin called aflatoxins. And apparently humans

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>are um pretty much immune to its initial effects or

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>its short term effects. But we have no idea what

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 1>happens if you eat afflatoxins. You know, over the course

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of a lifetime, you know, what what happens, And apparently

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>there's studies of humans that found that it's been linked

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to certain types of cancer, UM, potentially birth defects, UM,

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 1>cognitive disabilities, all sorts of horrible stuff. And peanut butter

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>producers say well, we get at least eighteen percent of

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the athlet toxins out just by processing peanuts. You say, well,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 1>what about the other eleven percent? And they're like, I

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>have some peter pan and forget your troubles. That's right.

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So so there is like a real risk of something

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>bad happening to you, whether it's a poisoning or not.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people are like, even if it's

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 1>pure peanut butter, it's it's still it's still not healthy

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, I mean the major brands that are

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>sugary and hydrogenated certainly aren't good for you. If you're

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>going to the farmer's market and and getting those peanuts

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 1>ground right in front of your face, it's not it's

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>not terrible. You know, it's got a lot of nutrition,

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it's got a lot of antioxidants. Uh, it's got we're

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>talking this is a hundred grams of this stuff. You've

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>got r D A of vitamin E, sent of vitamin

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>B three sixteen seven percent I'm sorry, se of manganese,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and thirty nine percent of magnesium. So it's got a

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of good stuff in there. It's got a lot

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of calories too. That's about six hundred calories reading a

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:12.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred gram's worth. But if it's you know, I mean

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a hundred grams is a lot. No, it is

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount. Um. The other thing is too, is

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're eating that artisan peanut butter, that craft peanut butter,

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the non hydrogenated I guess I should say peanut butter,

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the oils and the fats in it are actually good

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 1>for you. The mono unsaturated fat is the kind that's

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>good for your heart. Um. It's that saturated stuff that

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>becomes shelf stable. That's the stuff that can build up

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>as plaque in your arterial walls and cause heart attacks

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and strokes and that kind of thing. But the natural

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter actually does the opposite. It helps your cholesterol levels.

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>That's it's just great. It's basically just really calorie dance.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Like if you're trying to lose weight, it's a good

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>idea to shy away from peanut butter. But if you're

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>eating natural peanut butter, it's not like in a non

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:07.279
<v Speaker 1>nutritious food. It's actually pretty nutritious. It's just calorie dance, right,

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you're trying to lose weight and you up

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>for a spoonful of peanut butter and honey rather than

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a pint of bin and Jerry's, then you're definitely doing

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the right thing, for sure, man, for sure. Um. One

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>thing though that has, you know, strikes fear and a

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, like you were saying, in your daughter's preschool,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even bring a peanut butter sandwich in there anymore. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the ride of the peanut allergy? Like? There's

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<v Speaker 1>a survey that was conducted in the eighties, the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two thousands, and I think the most recent

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<v Speaker 1>one was in two thousand eight, and they found that

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<v Speaker 1>between two thousand and eight, in this national survey of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty homes that the um the self reported peanut allergies

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<v Speaker 1>went from point four percent of respondents to one point

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<v Speaker 1>four percent of respondents, which it's one point four percent

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a huge increase

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<v Speaker 1>between UM uh, Like eleven years, I guess. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is, if you look at other studies, they

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<v Speaker 1>found that, yes, self reported rates are on the rise,

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<v Speaker 1>but doctor diagnosed rates have held steady. So there seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be an increase in perception that people have peanut allergies,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily an increase in actual peanut allergies, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really strange and bizarre to think of, if that's correct. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have seen the trend of oral immunotherapy like

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<v Speaker 1>um feeding your very small child and your baby peanuts

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<v Speaker 1>to a little bit at a time to ensure or

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully ensured that they won't be uh stricken with the

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<v Speaker 1>worst food allergy of all. It's tough, the peanut allergy.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh they there was a study in Israel that

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<v Speaker 1>had guidelines for early infant feeding and they said, around

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<v Speaker 1>four to six months of age, just shove a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of peanuts in their mouth and see what happens and

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>make them chew and then hit him with the lip ball. Yeah,

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>hit him with that, hit him with the ball. Um as.

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<v Speaker 1>So one last thing, chuck and I couldn't find a

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<v Speaker 1>place to put it, but it has to be said.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a phobia called um araca boot to a phobia,

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<v Speaker 1>iraq a boodh or phobia. Yeah, I think I nailed

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<v Speaker 1>it that last time, and it is is that for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that my cue? Yes, it's hard to tell because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not kicking me under the table. I'm not like

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<v Speaker 1>doing that series of blinks. Uh. That is the fear

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<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter getting stuck on the roof of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a true thing, which is shouldn't be a

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<v Speaker 1>fear because all you gotta do is just keep working

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<v Speaker 1>the tongue and that peanut butter is gonna dislodge and

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<v Speaker 1>go right down your throat. That's right, just like John

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey Kellogg foresaw little whole milk and you're all set,

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>nice man, or some cool whip. Don't forget the cool whip.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta try that. That's I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>should try that. Like I think I gained ten hounds

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<v Speaker 1>in a month just after I discovered that it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good for you, man. Yeah, I can't wait. Cool

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<v Speaker 1>whip doesn't last long on the house. We can't keep

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<v Speaker 1>it here. It's just like it's really hard not to

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of I'll just have a little spoonful every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then, right and then Yeah, it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>hair is stuck to your forehead because you put your

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<v Speaker 1>whole face in the tub. So good, and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>frozen too. I don't know if you ever tried that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried it both ways, but if you, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do want to try, it's about it's about half and

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<v Speaker 1>half peanut butter cool whip per spoonful. I'll give it

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<v Speaker 1>a shot if I'm ever allowed to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store again. Yeah right, um, okay, well I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's it then for peanut butter unless you have anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing else? Okay, Well, since we said we have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, it means it's time for loosener mail. I'm

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna call this early listener that came back as an

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>adult love these hey guys. Last year, I well, what

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<v Speaker 1>I really love is people that never stopped listening. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll take this, Hey guys. Last year I started

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<v Speaker 1>And a need for an educational podcast? On my long

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<v Speaker 1>I think he may be. I don't know what he means.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first started listening, I was in middle school

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