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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening, and it's time now

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Speaker 2: for us to do the Fantasy Football Focus as we

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Speaker 2: do on Tuesdays. We'll run you through some of the

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Speaker 2: waiver wire pickups.

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Speaker 3: This is a big bye week, big bye week getting.

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Speaker 2: Does it usually happen this late in the season.

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Speaker 3: There's some good teams and you know, crucial time in

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Speaker 3: the fantasy landscape. Of course, we're also going to do

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Speaker 3: streaming defenses today too. Yeah. Yeah, So this.

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Speaker 2: Week you're looking at Baltimore, Buffalo, Chicago, Minnesota, the Raiders

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Speaker 2: and Giants not playing.

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Speaker 3: This week, a lot of prominent guys there's that's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of significant players out this week. And so the

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Speaker 2: waiver wire, well.

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Speaker 3: He might have to comet. Whether you like it or not.

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Speaker 2: You know, I need to get and it's probably I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know in our league that we're in together, there's

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Speaker 2: not much out there.

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Speaker 3: There's not much out there in any league. I'm in.

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Speaker 3: They've been pretty well picked through and there's not a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys popping up all of a sudden that

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Speaker 3: are worth picking up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jayden Reid owned in thirty one point five percent of

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Speaker 2: ESPN leagues. He should be in every league.

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Speaker 3: He should be.

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Speaker 2: H Yeah, he's probably if he's available in your league,

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Speaker 2: he should be I think the top pick up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. I know Friar and Moose

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Speaker 3: name is gonna come up to, but i'd read is

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Speaker 3: every week contributor on an improving often.

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Speaker 2: Like he's he's a wide receiver two every week.

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Speaker 3: I was about to ask you thought he was a

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Speaker 3: receiver three. Apparently you think.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a two because they get him the

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Speaker 2: ball in different ways too.

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Speaker 3: They do, they do, And he's been pretty productive week

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Speaker 3: after week. He's I liked him come a lot of

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Speaker 3: coming to Michigan State too. Yeah, he's a good player.

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Speaker 3: Their whole passing game is getting better. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Josh Downs with the Colts forty seven point two percent

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Speaker 2: of leagues. He should be in leagues.

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Speaker 3: He's not a big play guy. Yeah, pick him up.

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Speaker 2: Jalen High with the Giants has only owned a one

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Speaker 2: point seven percent leaks. But they're off this week, so

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna help you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, had a big week. He's a boom er bust player.

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Speaker 3: I guess if you've got a spot, I wouldn't. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's nearly at the level those first two.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. Di Mario Douglas. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about him before. He's gotten seven or more targets

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Speaker 2: in four straight games. Yeah, it's also it should be

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Speaker 2: and he should be in leagues. It doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: matter who their quarterback is. They don't have a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: He's one of the few bright spots on their team. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they actually found a receiver.

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Speaker 2: Maybe why Johnny Mingo. He's owned in seven point six

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Speaker 2: percent of leagues. He led the team in targets from

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Speaker 2: receiving yards against the Titans on Sunday. They faced the

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers this week.

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Speaker 3: That's a good setup. I guess I liked him coming out.

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Speaker 3: He's not real refined, as you see. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 3: a lot of fifty to fifty balls to him things

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Speaker 3: like that. But they need to use their young guys obviously.

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Speaker 3: I guess he should be in every league. Yeah, close

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Speaker 2: Jordan Loves still only rostered in forty seven point nine

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Speaker 2: percent of league. He should be He should be rostered.

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Speaker 3: Is he a top twelve quarterback? Probably not quite that far.

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Speaker 2: I still think it's matchup driven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they play Kansas City this week. I don't

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Speaker 2: love him now. I don't love that this week against

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, that's a really good deal.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Stafford's owned in thirty one point one percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't run, but he's the play there. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm in starting him in my one league

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Speaker 3: by default, but it's that's not ideal.

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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew owned in seven point three percent of leagues,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, outstanding, I mean, certainly better than the Vetos of

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Speaker 2: Two quarterback leagues. Oh yeah, you know, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 3: And I mean with the state of quarterback, maybe your

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Speaker 3: guys on a bye this week and Minshew would make

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somehow. Keaton Mitchell is still only owned in thirty

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Speaker 2: three point six percent of leagues. He's their starter.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he's he had the most touches on

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Speaker 2: He started that game on Sunday. Now the problem is

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Speaker 2: they're going to use the other two guys as of course,

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Speaker 2: of course, and Gus Edwards is going to siphon off

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Speaker 2: any kind of goal line work, but no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And if he doesn't do it, then Lamar is Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he has to score from distance, but they

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Speaker 3: throw him the ball more than the other backs too.

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Speaker 2: He's not surprising anybody. He's like, no, he's not going

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Speaker 2: to come out and do what he did early when

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Speaker 2: he was getting you know, three touches for ninety seven yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: I picked him up in my main league right after that,

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Speaker 3: and I haven't started on my have you know, and

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Speaker 3: he's off this week. But I'm happy I have.

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Speaker 2: Him, you know what I mean, probably a stash away

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Speaker 2: whether you know, Justice Hill gets hurt or something like that.

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Speaker 3: With the ideal, Yeah, you can make Justice Hill go away.

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Speaker 3: It would go be huge.

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Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott's owned in thirty six point four percent of

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Speaker 2: the league's Stevenson's been much more productive last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you believe in handcuffs, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: guess you'd want them. But that team's so bad.

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Speaker 2: It's so bad. They don't score.

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Speaker 3: They don't score.

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Speaker 2: He's averaged ten point five touches a game, though, so

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Speaker 2: any running back to gets ten touches a game is

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Speaker 2: worth it. It should be. It should be in your league.

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Speaker 3: If you're playing them, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Though you are in trouble. He doesn't move an evile

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Speaker 2: chewba Hubbard forty eight point six percent of the league's

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Speaker 2: he's a clear cut number one.

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Speaker 3: See. I think they've been going back and forth. I

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Speaker 3: mean he's their definite receiving back. Sanders is either this

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Speaker 3: week or last week. Out right, I had more carries

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Speaker 2: This past week, though, Hubbard had nineteen touches.

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Speaker 3: But it just okay. I got the two weeks combine confused.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't certain on that. I guess he's a flex.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'd take him over Zeke. Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: At tight end. You mentioned Pat Fryarmouth. Yeah, forty one

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Speaker 2: point nine percent ownership. I think people when when he

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Speaker 2: got went on IR people just forgot about him or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this production was bad at that point and

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Speaker 3: injuries are happening.

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Speaker 2: So eleven targets one hundred and twenty receiving yards later. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is he a top twelve? Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona is not particularly good against tight ends.

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Speaker 3: That's true, not true. Yeah, and especially with the bye weeks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like Concaid's off and a couple other guys

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Speaker 3: would put him back in your line up.

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Speaker 2: And I think that three tight end package that the

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Speaker 2: Steelers used last week, I don't know that that was

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Speaker 2: Bengals specific, would use that moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what are you going to do when we

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Speaker 3: do this? Yeah? Side note, Arizona like leads a league

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Speaker 3: in that they do a lot of three tight end stuff. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah likely owned in thirty one point eight percent

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Speaker 2: of leagues. Well, obviously he's not going to help you

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Speaker 2: this week. True, he had eight Fantasy points last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a tight end two like I would. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't have a problem with them being on my roster.

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Speaker 2: He's outside the top twelve though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather start fire move Yeah, and then all things.

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Speaker 2: Being would you rather start Isaiah Likely or Chig chigs

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Speaker 2: ooned than twenty one percent of the league's.

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Speaker 3: Likely man Tennessee's passing offense is broken. Yeah, bro, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be involved in that.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin's seventeen point four percent ownership, he gets targets,

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Speaker 2: they don't score any touchdowns. No, it's like you can

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Speaker 2: do better empty calories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do better.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to be really hard up to uh, really

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Speaker 2: hard need one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if you had a major injury Waller

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Speaker 3: could do better than that by now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem with the waiver wire right now.

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Speaker 2: It's just there's not much out there.

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Speaker 3: No, the Friar moves seems like the biggest name that

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Speaker 3: is available.

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Speaker 2: Mostly if Moss is available in your league, oh good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know there's a chance he got dropped or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because there were a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: there he didn't touch the ball.

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Speaker 3: Mak long part right, No, grab him for he should

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Speaker 3: be your number one. Yeah, I think you can start him.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely. There's like a running

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who they got this week? The Indianapolis plays Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Hmm either way, yeah, he owned that the first time

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Speaker 2: around against the Titans, Moss ran all over him.

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Speaker 3: He was that one of his big games. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, this week's schedule, look for the streaming defenses here.

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Speaker 2: It's a good slate of games this week. Actually, you

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Speaker 2: got starting with the Thursday night game see at Dallas.

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Speaker 2: How about that for a Thursday night matchup?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you have Dallas d I think you're just

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Speaker 3: firing it up. But even though it's not a great matchup,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do a Seattle's d But that's

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Speaker 3: a good game. Yeahattle needs to sneak one of these outs.

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Speaker 3: They need to either like beat Dallas or.

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Speaker 2: Dallas needs don't get a game against the team with

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Speaker 2: a winning record, which if he beat Seattle will no

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Speaker 2: longer have a winning record.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they could be an eight lost team

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Speaker 3: before you know it. In Seattle they are three brutal

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Speaker 3: ones coming up.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you have Indianapolis at Tennessee. Colts hasn't been great.

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Speaker 3: Though, No, but Tennessee's bad.

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Speaker 2: They're bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they can't pass block. I don't want Tennessee's D.

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Speaker 2: No, this be an interesting game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd like to see Titans, Henry. You'd like to

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Speaker 3: see a Titans way. Titans can pull off that game.

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Speaker 3: Inside the division, people could do that.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are at New England, so Chargers can't stop

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Speaker 2: anybody from throwing the football, I know, And yet they

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Speaker 2: will stop New England from throwing the football streaming the

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Speaker 2: charge defense.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is at New York. You're firing up the Falcons

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I played the charge just exact

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Speaker 2: The Jets won't break fifteen points.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you know it's not gonna hurt you. You're

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Speaker 2: You know, Arizona at Pittsburgh Steelers defense of course, not Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Washington could score. But yeah, I would fire them up

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Speaker 3: and be okay with it. Denver is at Houston, No,

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's gonna be some other options out there.

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Speaker 2: No, Carolina at Tampa Bay playing Tampa. Tampa Bay's defense

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Speaker 2: We don't know what what to expect from Carolina.

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Speaker 3: They don't walk anybody.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're start soon. They don't really have

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Speaker 2: defense isn't a number one I don't even I don't

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Speaker 2: know if they're a top five start this week, especially

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Speaker 3: To they are, it's just going to hurt them. And

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Speaker 2: That's too I would still roll with it though, like

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Speaker 2: I would never pay up for it. In DF, we

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Speaker 3: So jj Zachereson is a Pittsburgh guy who lives in

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Speaker 3: like the Giants, Like, I don't think the rams Dy

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Speaker 3: is good, but if you're playing it's not probably even

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Speaker 3: isn't going to be DTR And then in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: they have this unbelievably easy schedule, so that's not a

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Speaker 3: bad move, you know, try and look at something like that. Uh, like,

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Speaker 2: D I think I would? I think I would? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: No, we also know Brown's road home splits are bad.

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Speaker 2: Because you don't have to. Again, if you don't have

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Speaker 3: On you, you just run the ball. It's so hard on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just run the football.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right, No, I think the ramsdy is a

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have who else is we haven't gotten to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Bengals are no.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, Bengalsh so and the Kansas City is

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Speaker 2: Miami against Miami Washington, Yeah, Atlanta against New York's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Would you start Indianapolis?

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Speaker 2: Would you start Indianapolis at Tennessee over those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean that's we're just not cutting either one.

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Speaker 2: That's eight or nine defenses right there. We just start

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, Yes, at Green Bay over there? Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Kansas City's d's like on the same

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Speaker 2: They didn't do much of it. They didn't do much

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Speaker 2: But if you're holding on to it, you're at this

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Speaker 3: If your second tight end is Kincaid, don't cut it

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Speaker 3: League, probably I don't know if I'd cut like Stafford

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Speaker 3: for him if he's your two. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: But then you weigh and like, okay, if this guy,

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Speaker 3: Am I going to care?

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Speaker 2: No? And I'm starting Jalen hurts.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you're doomed if your guy gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: Though, But this is the time of the year when

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it hurt me. You play defense late in

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Speaker 3: you'd consider it. I mean, if it's three more points

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Speaker 3: not making it. Yeah, you got to do the little things. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But interesting slate of games, yeah that is Yeah. The

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Speaker 3: I mean they're both in the hunt right now. I'm

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Speaker 3: just thinking playoff wise, a loss there, a conference loss

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Speaker 3: that might eliminate the loser there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it would hurt. I think it would

442
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Speaker 2: hurt Houston more than it would hurt Denver. No, I

443
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Speaker 2: think it'd hurt them both equally.

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Speaker 3: They're both kind of the same boat. They probably won't

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Speaker 3: win their divisions.

446
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Speaker 2: Because then you lose the tiebreaker to the other.

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Speaker 3: To the other team too. Good point. Yeah, so is

448
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Speaker 3: there any other big AFC eight Big AFC games?

449
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Tennessee's is you know Tennessee somehow nice win?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice and lose.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the point now where the Steelers are going

452
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Speaker 2: to be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it feels like so.

454
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Speaker 2: I don't care about the rest of the wild card stuff.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. It's not that big a deal. If

456
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Speaker 3: the Bills or Colts or Broncos or these teams that

457
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Speaker 3: are fighting to get in lose again because game for

458
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Speaker 3: Cleland though huge game for Cleveland, point they could lose that.

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Speaker 2: They could certainly lose.

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Speaker 3: Rams out there, Yeah, I bet they're a dog. I

461
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Speaker 3: haven't even seen that.

462
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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at the lines, but I'm sure they are.

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Speaker 3: I would think they are. Yeah, I mean, there'd be

464
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Speaker 3: some Browns fans, but I think the Rams are the

465
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Speaker 3: better ms.

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Speaker 2: Rams are used to doing. Seeing that, Yeah, that doesn't matter. Actually,

467
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Speaker 2: the fans kind of show up for the Rams. They

468
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Speaker 2: don't show up for charge.

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Speaker 3: For the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been there longer.

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Speaker 2: Because they're the carpet baggers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brown could definitely lose that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, We're gonna get tough a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Come back. It is rankings time. Oh yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: It is Rankings Tuesday. We'll take a look and see

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Speaker 2: where the Steelers stack up now at seven and four.

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Speaker 2: Right after this, let's go play some ball.

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lowley. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio, and it's time for Matt Us

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Speaker 2: to look at Eric ed Holmes power rankings. Here at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: let's see where the steel Dealers come in at. Now.

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Speaker 3: I think they should be pretty high. I believe it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they would be pretty high on my power

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: And again, I think this is where people lose sight

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Speaker 2: of things when they don't look at the league as

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Speaker 2: a whole.

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Speaker 3: We do, yeah, exactly one reason why we do. It

503
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Speaker 3: doesn't really matter if TMX is twenty six or twenty seven,

504
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: not really, but I mean when you can judge it

505
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Speaker 3: against where they're at this the Healers, right, I think

506
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Speaker 3: it's important.

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Speaker 2: So at thirty two this week, still the Carolina Panthers

508
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Speaker 2: one in ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they owned the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: They fired they own it, Well, they've earned it. They

511
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Speaker 3: earned the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: They don't own the first pick in them.

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Speaker 3: And the Patriots played one hundred and eleven games though

514
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Speaker 3: it might be really hard to watch.

515
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Speaker 2: And oh it'd be really the Patriots can't score.

516
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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: No, at thirty one are the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think they could get that low.

519
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Speaker 2: I mean, like I thought they stunk coming into the season. Yes, uh,

520
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: thirty one is. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just have this theory that a Tomlin Harbaugh Carol

522
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: team can't bottom out this much, But wow they have.

523
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Speaker 2: They're oh and seven against teams outside the AFC East.

524
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Speaker 2: Both of their wins have come within the division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure Belichick knows those teams extremely well.

526
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Speaker 3: I mean that's probably part of his value. Of course,

527
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Speaker 3: of course, it.

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Speaker 2: Just goes to show you, like how bad that roster is.

529
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Speaker 2: It's just there's a tro Belichick. The GM should have

530
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Speaker 2: been fired years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had a lot of resources too. Don't tell me, Oh, well,

532
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Speaker 3: you're always picking thirty at thirty seven.

533
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Speaker 2: When he went out and decided to spend thirty million

534
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Speaker 2: dollars on Hunter Henry and Johnny Smith and that was

535
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Speaker 2: your big off seasons.

536
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Speaker 3: And stuff like that, right, that was criminal.

537
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Speaker 2: Horrendous at thirty The team the Steelers will see this week,

538
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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, better than those Steelers. Next two games are against

540
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Speaker 3: thirty and thirty one. Got to go to.

541
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Speaker 2: At home on a short week of one of them. Yeah,

542
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Speaker 2: got to win those against the team that's oh and

543
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Speaker 2: seven outside of its division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this sets up really well, really well. Right, you've

545
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Speaker 3: hack two more wins on that Steeler resume, you're in

546
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Speaker 3: real good shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty nine down three spots. The Washington Commanders.

548
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Speaker 2: Are they that bad?

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Speaker 3: I don't I know that. I know the Giants beat

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Speaker 3: them recently, but I would still have the Giants lower.

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Speaker 3: The Giants have beat them twice. The Giants wins against

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Speaker 3: the Commanders. They are pretty bad. I mean, that's not

553
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Speaker 3: a great red.

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Speaker 2: It's a divisional thing. Though. Games are different.

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Speaker 3: Would you have the Giants over the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: They're both four and eight so, and they have played twice,

557
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Speaker 2: and the Giants have beat them twice. So yeah, I guess.

558
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Speaker 2: And they're on a two game winning street. They're on

559
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Speaker 2: a heater, and they're on a heater. The Giants come

560
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Speaker 2: in at twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Up a spot.

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Speaker 2: I hesitate to say this, but I would have them

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Speaker 2: both ahead of this next team though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, real quick, though, the Vedo hasn't been embarrassing when

565
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Speaker 3: he's playing slappies, right, I've been playing terrible teams. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's beating the Commanders and he's beaten in

567
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Speaker 3: the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's not exactly. Oh both, yea bottom of

569
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Speaker 2: league right, twenty seven down two spots. The Jets terrible.

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Speaker 3: I think the Jets are worse than I still think

571
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Speaker 3: the Jets D is the best unit we've discussed yet.

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Speaker 2: That's great. A couple of weeks ago, the Jets played

573
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Speaker 2: the Giants and it was a thirteen to ten overtime game.

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Speaker 3: They would kill for de Vito. I mean, that's how

575
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Speaker 3: bad boil is. Too.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're starting to, right, if we're ranking the starting

577
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks of those teams, Kyler's won times a million oils

578
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Speaker 2: behind the Veto and certainly behind he's behind the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: How he's the worst of all them? Oh way behind? How? Yeah,

580
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Speaker 3: they don't have a quarterback, Yeah, quarterback at all?

581
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Speaker 2: Right, at twenty six up a spot, Tennessee.

582
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Speaker 3: They're better than every team mentioned. That's probably exactly where

583
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Speaker 3: they belong. Yeah, they're pretty darn.

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Speaker 2: Back at twenty five, up three spots. The Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: So last night was miserable.

586
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Speaker 2: It was awful.

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Speaker 3: I mean Dobbs a touchdown, Yeah, Dobbs keeps giving them

588
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Speaker 3: the ball and they can't turn into points and then

589
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Speaker 3: fields what fumbled twice at the end of the game too, Like,

590
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Speaker 3: come on, man, but I look at his passes were

591
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Speaker 3: sideways or sideways? I know so, but I'm looking at

592
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Speaker 3: that Bears team going a lot of cap space. The

593
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Speaker 3: defense isn't as horrible as I expected it to be.

594
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: Their O line is serviceable. I don't think you keep fields.

595
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you trade him and you draft

596
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Speaker 3: someone high. But I think the organization's going the right way.

597
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Speaker 2: The question becomes in do people want to play in

598
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Speaker 2: Chicago well?

599
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Speaker 3: And also who's the coach? Do you roll it back

600
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Speaker 3: or maybe just make an offensive coordinator change? Sorry, Luke,

601
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Speaker 3: you know, but everything sideways. I don't know. It's it's

602
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Speaker 3: far from perfect, but there is hope.

603
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Speaker 2: At twenty four down four spots, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: It seems about what it seems about, right. Yeah. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 3: they're noticeably worse than the Saints and Falcons in that division.

606
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Speaker 2: Yeah they went for it.

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Baker hasn't even been the problem. No, No,

608
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Speaker 3: it's okay.

609
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Speaker 2: They get Their defense stinks.

610
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Defense.

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Speaker 2: At twenty three down two spots the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: They should be drifting down. I'm fine with that too.

613
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Speaker 2: At twenty two up two spots, the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I would think they're better than that.

615
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Speaker 2: After they beat the Browns this week, they'll get the risk,

616
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Speaker 2: they'll be in the play. They'll be six and six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they might make.

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Speaker 3: With Seattle's unbelievably difficult schedule coming up. He put three

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Speaker 3: more losses on Seattle, the Rams might be sitting pretty

620
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Speaker 3: for a wild card.

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Speaker 2: Spot at twenty one down two spots. They might be

622
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Speaker 2: worse the Chargers. Yeah, you know, Justin Herbert has a

623
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Speaker 2: losing record in his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: I do know that. So who's better between who's the

625
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: better LA team? I mean the Rams just killed the Cardinals. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 3: I mean I know the Cardinals aren't good, but.

627
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Speaker 2: I trust the Rams more than I trust is way

628
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Speaker 2: better coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one of them is a top tier coach.

630
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Speaker 3: One of them may be not a coach the side

631
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Speaker 3: next week.

632
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Chargers don't know how to.

633
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Speaker 3: Win, No, they really don't. I think the Rams are better.

634
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Speaker 2: Like, if I'm the Chargers, in Belichick was available, that's

635
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Speaker 2: the coach.

636
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying. You already got Herbert. Yeah,

637
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 3: you know you're not going to screw it up.

638
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: You've got defensive pieces.

639
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: Name although you got to cut half.

640
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't fit.

641
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: They don't fit right, Like if you gave Bosa and

642
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Derwin to Belichick, it gets something out of yeah something yeah,

643
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: but or it ruined Herbert. Sorry, Bill, I get I

644
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: know that you're a legend, but if you would ruin Herbert,

645
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: come on, man.

646
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: At twenty down two spots, the Cincinnati Bengals.

647
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: I put both LA teams over them.

648
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: I would too. Rams are currently constructed. Yeah, the defense

649
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: is bad, they don't have a quarterback.

650
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: And the coaching I don't think the coach is great.

652
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: The coaching staff is dubious.

653
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Speaker 3: At best, run the ball.

654
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: That was coaching malpractice last week. To run the ball

655
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: with your with your running back eight times eight times

656
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: coaching malpractice. Hey, we don't have Joe Burrow. We're just

657
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: going to treat this guy like he's Joe Burrow.

658
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Right. McVeigh would love to play the Bengals right now.

659
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, at nineteen up four spots, all those first place

660
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons.

661
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: Huh would you put them above the Saints? I know

662
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: he didn't, but he didn't right now using Beijon finally

663
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: sounds like they're committed to Ritter which I understand. That's

664
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: about right. I kiss, I mean say it's better be

665
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: the next team on. I just say, I don't know

666
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 3: there's any discrepancy between them. No, eighteen up.

667
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: Four spots are the Packers.

668
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: Oh, I think green Bay is better than the Saints.

669
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: Green Bay's trending strong to me. I mean they got

670
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs this week, which is rough, but I like

671
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: what green Bay's doing.

672
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: This is the same green Bay Packers team we're talking

673
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: about three weeks ago. Yeah, that the Steelers beat, but

674
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: well they just they only beat the Packers.

675
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: No, Packers been really impressive since and doing all that homework.

676
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know if Love can throw

677
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: the ball well enough accurately. He's been really good since

678
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: that whole young offense is up. At seventeen down, two

679
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: spots are the Saints. Okay, out did the Packers over

680
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: anyone in the South?

681
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I might have the Rams

682
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: above anything.

683
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: Me too, me too, Like, just as a viewer, I'd

684
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: like to see the Packers and Rams in the playoffs.

685
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: At sixteen down two spots are the Vikings and falling

687
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: fast and falling fast. Yeah, I know they're five hundred,

688
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: but they kind of don't have a quarterback.

689
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback, and there's no kind of

690
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: they don't have quarterback.

691
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: It's bad.

692
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: At fifteen better in Minnesota. Yeah, at fifteen up two

693
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: spots is Denver. Yes, they would be my number one

694
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: team mentioned so far. Okay, they're better in the Chargers,

695
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: better in the Rams. You could make the argument they're

696
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: better than Cleveland. We haven't gotten the Cleveland.

697
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, you definitely can.

698
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: At fourteen down two spots, Seattle, you could make the

699
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 2: case that Seattle is better than Cleveland because they beat Cleveland.

700
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle's just also some good teams. I don't know

701
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: that there makes them a bad team.

702
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Everybody's that the Cleveland love.

703
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Is strong, Yeah, it is. I would have both those

704
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: teams over Cleveland.

705
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: At thirteen up three spots the Colts, I guess it's

706
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: a very respectable season. I think i'd have Seattle and

707
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: Denver above.

708
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: I would definitely have Seattle. I'm not sure about Denver.

709
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Denver and Indie are both similar to me. Denver's one

710
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: like five or six in a row. Yeah, you got

711
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: in this league. That's it says a lot. Now.

712
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: Denver was climbing from the bottom. They were like thirty six.

713
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know which I get. But if

714
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: they're playing like the seventeenth best team, put them in

715
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: seventeen twelve best team?

716
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: What they considering without Jonathan Taylor here?

717
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: Now true? True, I'll take the den I'll take Denver.

718
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: I might take Green Bay over Indy.

719
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at twelve down one spot the Buffalo Bills.

720
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 3: See, I think we're gonna fight on this. They would

721
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: be like six for me. They can't be six. Here's

722
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: what's the spread if they're in Cleveland this week?

723
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland's too high. We both agree there should not be

724
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: ahead of Buffalo.

725
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: What's the spread if Buffalo is hosting or in the

726
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: building of the next five teams? I bet they're favored

727
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: against all of them. I don't even know who the

728
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: next five are.

729
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: Here's the problem with Buffalo.

730
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Well, they're problems. The record stings.

731
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: They're one in five in road games this year.

732
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: I know.

733
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: So when you say what's in there, what's in their

734
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: building or on the road, that makes a huge difference.

735
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: It does because they're very big at that point.

736
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: They're very good at home, they're not good on the road.

737
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: I bet they lost in New England.

738
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: They lost to the Jets, right, So I guess a

739
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: better way to put it is if Vegas power ranked teams.

740
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: They would be higher, probably. But Vegas is also playing

741
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: the money game with this. I'm talking about real life here,

742
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: what they've put out there.

743
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: They think Buffalo's favored here.

744
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I think they're a flawed football team out very flood foot, but.

745
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: They got a superstar and they still score a lot

746
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: of points I think to steal.

747
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: If the game we're here, I think Steelers beat them.

748
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: I bet they're a dog. I still think they beat them, possibly.

749
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Because I would. I would trust them. I would trust

750
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers coaching staff to come up with a game

751
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: plan that would turn Allen over a couple of times.

752
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a great matchup for Buffalo.

753
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: And the Steelers would run the ball right down their throats.

754
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: So we both expect, Like, maybe Cleveland's not a good example,

755
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: but Cleveland's coming up soon. Yeah, if Cleveland's in Buffalo

756
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: this week.

757
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: Cleveland's a dog.

758
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: You couldn't give me ten points.

759
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: What I'm saying Cleland is too high, Yeah, way too high.

760
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo probably should be tennish.

761
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: Let's go through who else is up there, But I

762
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: think they're still dangerous. I don't think they're going to the playoffs.

763
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: Just ahead of them at eleven down one spot is Houston.

764
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: Houston's a good team, but I think in Houston their favorite.

765
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm taking I'm taking Houston. I'm taking the Houston Houston.

766
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: In Buffalo, I'll take Buffalo.

767
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm the road to the road.

768
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: It's a real thing for them.

769
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: I hear, I hear. I think they're a better team

770
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: than the couple.

771
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Oh, they were a better team in New England, and

772
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: they lost to them in New England.

773
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: No doubt they're better.

774
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Team than Jets.

775
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: They lost to them, and you know they I know

776
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: the record doesn't back me up, but I just think

777
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: that they're one of the better teams.

778
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: In the league. You can't, you know, when we get

779
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: to the end of the season and the Bills are

780
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: nine to eight and they don't.

781
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: Make the playoffs and they're not gonna.

782
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: You can't say, well, there's a number eight team in

783
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: the league.

784
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you can.

785
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: You'd be wrong.

786
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: I mean, see how the league goes. But if they're

787
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: third in offensive d v o A and twelfth in

788
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: defensive d v o A, but they left and they

789
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: got problems, right, Yeah, then the matter, I know, I know.

790
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: And you've got to beat the teams on your schedule.

791
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: And I think Josh Allen's having a tremendous year.

792
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Except for the turnovers.

793
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, does matter, I know, does matter, but not like

794
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: these teams are great and they're not constructed.

795
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it.

796
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: They don't have that, they don't have so fun to that.

797
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've had those flaws the last few years.

798
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: Allen's covered them up. And they don't have the defensive guys. Now,

799
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: oh no, you know, I don't. I don't care where

800
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: they finish up at d vo A. I'll bet you

801
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: the defense has been going the wrong way since they

802
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: lost Milano.

803
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: Big time, it is. But the offense is still a

804
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: top five unit to me. That's welling, all well and

805
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: good so is Miamis you think they're I think they're

806
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: a better offensive Miami? Okay, yeah, all right?

807
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Who we are here at ten is Cleveland?

808
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: They should be lower, they should be sixteen.

809
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be lower.

810
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, their offense isn't gonna scoring points the

811
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: rest of the year.

812
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: No, they're they're ten pointed game team.

813
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: The rest of the year. Yeah, well, they could start

814
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco this week. I guess they could.

815
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: There's still a ten point right, Yeah. Without their tackles,

816
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: he can't escape anybody, Like, what do you Yeah, that's

817
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: not going to do any good.

818
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: I don't know they beat anybody with p J. Walker.

819
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean those bottom seven eight teams they beat with PJ.

820
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Hey, they beat the forty nine Ers and Colts with

821
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: PJ Walker.

822
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: They did. I don't think at home. Yeah, I don't

823
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: think they're good at all. Yeah, they'd be noticeably lower

824
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: from me.

825
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: At nine up, four spots the Pittsburgh Steelers.

826
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that. I mean, I'm sure there's people

827
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: going didn't the Steelers lose? The Browns and Houston are

828
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: the two behind them. But it's more what they're doing now.

829
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: The Houston loss was ancient history.

830
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you doing now?

831
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

832
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that. At eight down, five spots, Detroit,

833
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: they should be going down. They deserve that. Their defense

834
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: is letting them down. Not even so.

835
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: They turned the ball over a lot, a lot, like

836
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: six or seven times the last two games, and that

837
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: doesn't count Dan Campbell going for it on fourth down

838
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: in his own territory.

839
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh look a big tough guy, all right, ya

840
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: ton here for my own twenty Yeah really poor? Yeah, yeah,

841
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: they could rebound. I mean, I still think they're a

842
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: good team.

843
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah I did too, But you can't do things like that.

844
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: That's you can't lose the game as a coach, and

845
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: that's kind of what he.

846
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: Did at seven up. A spot is Jacksonville Jacksonville or

847
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: the Lions. They're both trending in the right door. The

848
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: thing about the Jags is if you take the Niners

849
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: loss where they got throttled, yeah, I think they won

850
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: seven out of seven. Other than that or something like that,

851
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: I mean, and the Niners are awesome, but they ran

852
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: into a ran into a buzz buzzaw, no doubt, and

853
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: they're not at the Niners level. But other than that,

854
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: they've had a really good two months.

855
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: Uh, it's six holding steady. The Dolphins can be a

856
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: little high for me too. I take the Jaguars.

857
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Bills are better than take

858
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: the Lions.

859
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: I'll take the Jaguars. Miami hasn't beaten anybody.

860
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: No, and they're fin that's team too. Yeah, I know

861
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: he's not a household name. But losing Jalen Phillips, he's

862
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: a huge losing. He's a really good player.

863
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Huge loss. At five up two spots Dallas.

864
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the best team yet. I think that we've

865
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: talked about.

866
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: At four upper spot is Kansas City.

867
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't where to put them. I mean there's ultimate

868
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: respect and maybe Rashi Rice is breaking out in front

869
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: of our eyes. Maybe I'm squinting a little bit.

870
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: I then they moved down a couple weeks ago because

871
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: they lost on a you know, late against the Eagles.

872
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: Everybody's losing late against the Eagles.

873
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really that much shame in that the.

874
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Eagles know how to win. At three upp a spot

875
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: San Francisco, there'd be two for me. Yeah, well, I

876
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: think you're too high still in Baltimore, Yes, but that's more.

877
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: They could have lost that game if they were playing

878
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: a legitimate team instead of the Chargers last week they lose.

879
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: I think the Niners are favored in Baltimore.

880
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's beat them.

881
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care where that game is.

882
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to see it in a couple of weeks,

883
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: and it's going to be in San Francisco. And if

884
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: that was this week, lose that by two touchdowns, I

885
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: say it's seven and a half.

886
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's there today in San Fra, I'd take

887
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: that all day. And I would take the Niners. Yeah,

888
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: and Niners might. I'd consider the Niners. Of one at

889
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: number one is Philadelphia and there's an artist winning this stuff. Yeah,

890
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean they're really good.

891
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: We'll get to see that this week. Philadelphia and San Francisco.

892
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

893
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: How about that this Eagle. The Eagles run the gauntlet

894
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: Kansas City, the Buffalo to San Francisco.

895
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: I think even Seattle's right on the horizon too, which

896
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: isn't either. They haven't lost any of those teams, any

897
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: of them. They're gonna be the one. I mean, they

898
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: win this one, they're the ones.

899
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's wrapped up. In fact, they win this one,

900
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: they've clinched a playoff spot.

901
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Have Yeah, that makes sense. One loss. How many losses

902
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: will they end up with?

903
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Let's say two, two, maybe three.

904
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: Maybe three, maybe three? They do have a couple of

905
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: tough games. Yeah, I might pick the Niners. I might.

906
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: You know it is.

907
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: I think it's in Philly. I don't know where's at

908
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: you I think it's in Philly. Okay, anyways, let's get

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Speaker 2: to a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie.

910
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: That was Eric Atolmes Power Rankings four weeks going into

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Speaker 2: week thirteen. Uh, we'll be back to finish up the

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Speaker 2: show right after this.

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold football leaves here twenty four seven. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to SNR. This is the Drive with Dale Lolly

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00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and GOLDNR.

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

920
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson.

921
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Driver on

922
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio.

923
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Speaker 4: And Matt Miller and Matt Bowen put together a twenty

924
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: twenty three All Youngster team the top players under twenty

925
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: four years of age in the NFL.

926
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Speaker 2: Some Steelers on this list, and I just this rookie

927
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: class has been outsenomenal, phenomenal. I mean it's not for

928
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: Houston having two top five picks including their quarterback. Now nobody,

929
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: Like people will be talking about this Steelers draft class

930
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: like wow, that's that's a great draft.

931
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't think it is getting enough credit.

932
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna ask whose would you trade? Who?

933
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: Who's getting more out of their rookies than the Steelers?

934
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: Maybe the Lions. I mean, like Jalen Carter first, Yeah,

935
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: you know, two early picks. Jalen Carter to me is

936
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: one of the best rookies in the league. But I mean,

937
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if their class is better than the Steelers. Frankly,

938
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: I thought this was Washington's best game as a pro.

939
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: And Porton Herbig can't get on the field, but every

940
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: time he does, he does something good. You know.

941
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a it's a great draft, It's

942
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 2: a great class. Ben and I think is a stud. Yes,

943
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: Porter's a stud. Yeah, I'm Rady Jones is a stud.

944
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go there on all those guys. I

945
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: don't think that's premature. So anyways, let's take a look

946
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 2: here at quarterback at Stroud and Brock Purties.

947
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, we don't have a lot of times,

948
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: so we'll just scam through him.

949
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Running back is Jon Robinson and Brice Hall.

950
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm fine with that.

951
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: Receiver is Jamar Chase, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson on the second,

952
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: and then George.

953
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: Pickens, Okay, Pickens makes.

954
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: Poking Nakua and Jordan Addison.

955
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I think Pickings belongs right there, and

956
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: with those guys, I take the top three ahead of them.

957
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: But tight end is Sam Laporta and Kyle Pitts. I'm sorry,

958
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: I can't go there. I put over there's some other

959
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: young tight ends coming into the league that are out

960
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: producing Kyle Pits by a lot.

961
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty consistently.

962
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: It Left tackle Sel Charles cross.

963
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 3: Penneyool is a right tackle, but okay.

964
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he They wanted to get

965
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: the other guys because most well that's the thing, most

966
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: of the young guys start on the right side in

967
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: a lot of cases.

968
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: Left, and they threw him in the right when they

969
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: draft him.

970
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: Left guard Tyler Smith and Peter Scarnsky.

971
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: That's a good group. I really like Smith. In Dallas.

972
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: If people don't know, center is Linderbaum and Joe Tipman.

973
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: I don't even know if Tipman's playing center. They moved

974
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: him on.

975
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: They moved him. I think he moved there because they

976
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: had some injuries.

977
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: So he has been playing like crazy. That's why I

978
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: haven't paid attention.

979
00:45:54,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right guard is Jamari Saylor or Siler Chargers. Yeah,

980
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: and then o Cyrus Torrance.

981
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: Okay, not a great group.

982
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Right tackle Darnell Wright and Paris Johnson two guys from

983
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: this draft class.

984
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

985
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Did Broderick Jones get job there a little bit?

986
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: Maybe and by the end of the year maybe it's

987
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: a different conversation. I mean, those guys have been starting

988
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: since Week one, so I think you have to take

989
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: that into account. Bad teams, bad teams. I don't know

990
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: if their tape is better. I bet it isn't, and

991
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: I'll bet everything I own Broderick Jones has a better

992
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: game than Paris Johnson on Sunday.

993
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I believe so. Yeah, I would. I would bet

994
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: so as well.

995
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't know that I trade our guy

996
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: for their guys.

997
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I don't think so either. Edge Rusher, Aiden Hutchinson,

998
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: Cavon Thibodeau, Will Anderson, and George carl loftis.

999
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: Kay Thibodeau's coming on strong? Yeah, Yeah, that's one of

1000
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 3: the few bright spots of Giants.

1001
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Jalen Carter Studd Jordan Davis a.

1002
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: Little overrated, but yeah, really good.

1003
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: Elijah Canson, who's missed a lot of times.

1004
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how he gets on there. Yeah, he's

1005
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: played like four games. Yeah.

1006
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: And Keanu Bent.

1007
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, deserve it. I'm glad people right, How can you.

1008
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: Make an argument that Benton should be on the first team?

1009
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: He might better Day. I don't know if I trade

1010
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: them straight up for Day.

1011
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade them straight up for Jordan Davis if.

1012
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: I had any defense tackle in the league. Carter behind

1013
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: the list, Yeah, that's not the conversation, But anyone else

1014
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: be right there?

1015
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: This for Keanu Benton, this could end up being like

1016
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: a Cam Hayward versus Aaron Donald situation.

1017
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Maybe the rest of his career, maybe the rest.

1018
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: Right linebacker Nick Bolton still just twenty three?

1019
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: Is he really that young?

1020
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Kway Walker, Jack Campbell, Jack Sanborn with the Bears.

1021
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: I've in pace Henry two two to to.

1022
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: This kind of shows linebackers take a while. None of

1023
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: those guys are stars.

1024
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: No cornerback Pat certain Sauce Gardner.

1025
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 3: I think they're the best two corners in the league.

1026
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon, he's been really good. Trent McDuffie. I don't

1027
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: have a problem with Porter not being on there, but

1028
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: I bet by the end of the year he would.

1029
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Be your Argumentory you're you're from.

1030
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: The sast Guard and thing. It's real, it's real. I mean,

1031
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: it's it's what Sauce did last year. Yeah, it really is,

1032
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: except Sauce and travel. He's a right left guy.

1033
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: That's the big thing with you. He's traveling with other

1034
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: like with Jamar Chase.

1035
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 3: I assume he'll be on Brown this week.

1036
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1037
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: He's a much different style than the other ones too.

1038
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: And he's he's done it well. Very it's safety huff Naga.

1039
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Guys should say he's out for the year, but yeah,

1040
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: out for the year. Kyle Hamilton, Yeah.

1041
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm impressed more and more with him. They'd ask a

1042
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: lot out of him.

1043
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: Javon Holland, who's still just twenty three.

1044
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: I love Joan Holland a number one of that group.

1045
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: For me and Andre Cisco.

1046
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah just goes okay, Yeah, the top three or strong.

1047
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: So a couple of Steelers on that list, and it

1048
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: could be a couple more Joe at the end of

1049
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: the year. If they did this thing all over again,

1050
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: Porter and Broderick Jones could both be on there.

1051
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: What about Kenny they did this is an age thing.

1052
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's purty and yeah he's he's already over

1053
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: twenty four.

1054
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he came in a league old. I would

1055
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: think of this first and second year guys, but he's

1056
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: too old. Yeah. So okay, pickings on the I'm trying

1057
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: to think who else could Fireman was too old?

1058
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, under twenty four is a different They'll usually do

1059
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: twenty five and under on this Yeah yeah, okay.

1060
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to get under that belt. But yeah,

1061
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: you get a couple of them that's strong.

1062
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So good draft class for the Steelers and eight

1063
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: draft class just going to continue to get better and

1064
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: better the more they play, and they're playing a lot now.

1065
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if they can back this draft class up

1066
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: with one that's eighty percent as good as this next year, yeah,

1067
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 3: that's like, gentlemen, that.

1068
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: Remakes you, makes you a decade, Yeah, remakes your roster.

1069
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our show today, So

1070
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartini here on

1071
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: site keeping us on the air, I am Dale, Lolly.

1072
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you listening to this edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.