WEBVTT - Francisco Lindor Rumours, Mets Beat Phillies, and AI in the Dugout | 591

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<v Speaker 1>What us up. Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mets Stuff podcast series went out of the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Break in Philly, first time since twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, yep, wild crazy. We're gonna talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>as well as all the trade rumors, all the noise

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<v Speaker 1>going around with the New York Mets. Francisco Lindoor is

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of everybody's list to talk about. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want clicks, you gotta put Francisco Lindor in the title,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we did it, because we're getting in

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<v Speaker 1>on our clicks now. Thank you guys for clicking on us.

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. Without further Ado James talk about this nice

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<v Speaker 1>little series. Honestly, out of the All Star break.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a great series. This was a nice moment

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of appreciate where like the positive parts this

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<v Speaker 2>Mets team are. We saw a great scar from Christian Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>saw a great star from Miillan McLain. On Sunday specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw the lineup really lean on Alan Ronhelle as

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<v Speaker 2>now we get that name correct, and we saw the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the other guy on base at will. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw Francisco Lindor go a triple away from the cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't say too loud, don't say too loud. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>Tyron Taylor, Luis Terrenz, the bombing other get in on

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<v Speaker 2>the action as well, Francisco Alvarez, every single person set.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Emian had at least moments of a very good

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<v Speaker 2>series in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean ending the series with what an over

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<v Speaker 1>five and four ks on today, little Golden Sombrero, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of runs competitions as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like we're probably gonna see less and

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<v Speaker 1>less of him as the season goes on. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>He's really not any better than Brett Bady, and Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Batty's not particularly good right now either.

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<v Speaker 2>At least it's worth giving Brett bay At back to

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<v Speaker 2>see what you have. I was almost shocked that Semion

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<v Speaker 2>came off the injured list to start games this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I could did we get told six to eight weeks

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<v Speaker 1>with it is what it is. Let's talk about positive things.

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<v Speaker 1>Positive Christian Scott. Let's start with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Christian Scott's so good. Christian Scott is a I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start calling him. I'm gonna start doing this for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of pitchers in the league who I have

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<v Speaker 2>this distinction for.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a rocket ship pitcher. Okay, rocket ship explain.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very good. He has a very solid foundation. But

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<v Speaker 2>he has a clear thing that's still stopping him from

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<v Speaker 2>getting to the next level, and that's having weapons for

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<v Speaker 2>left handed batters. We saw in this game as effective

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<v Speaker 2>as he was just breezing through the first five innings,

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<v Speaker 2>running into trouble in the sixth the kyleege Schwarber double left.

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<v Speaker 2>He's coming up. You take him out, you bring lefty

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<v Speaker 2>in to face the lefties. Christian Scott to me is

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<v Speaker 2>a rocket ship pitcher because once there are enough weapons

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<v Speaker 2>to actually get the lefties, and it seems like based

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<v Speaker 2>on what he has and the kind of pitcher he

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<v Speaker 2>is and just the way that he pitches, those will come.

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<v Speaker 1>The color look good.

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<v Speaker 2>The curve ball had some moments of flashing. We haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen the splither really ever in a while, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think all these things have a chance of coming together eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Once he has two pitches to get lefties out, he's

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<v Speaker 2>to me, he's closing in up being close to a

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<v Speaker 2>front line like top two to three pitcher instead of

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<v Speaker 2>right now still stuck out of four or five.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whole thing about it is that that

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<v Speaker 1>fastball is so ridiculously good. It's an awesome fastball, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he throws it so much up in

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<v Speaker 1>the zone and we're now seeing Nolan McClain do that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something Nolan McLain out a lot love to

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<v Speaker 1>see that. And the sweeper is unbelievable from him. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>those two pitches are absolute dynamite. Blake, you said that

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<v Speaker 1>is against righty's. If he can get that pitch against

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<v Speaker 1>the lefties, you're right, he does just become a frontline starter.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the difference. But here's the great thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Scott is that the difference between those two I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like is not crazy. Where Like he still has

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<v Speaker 1>a two point eight seven era and he still doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that pitch like it's crazy. That's what's nuts about

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<v Speaker 1>this is that I feel like the version that we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing of him right now, while there can be improvement.

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<v Speaker 1>If you told me that Christian Scott was like this

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mets, for the rest of his career in

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<v Speaker 1>his time here, I'd be thrilled. I'd be over the moon.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>We open the season a lot of time ago, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the very different thoughts that are my the

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<v Speaker 2>go and Christian Scott wasn't even a guaranteed part of

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<v Speaker 2>this rotation. We didn't even see him as that. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we're through this part of the season catastrophe as

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<v Speaker 2>it may be, and he's been the second most consistent

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher in this entire staff. Like even this game, like

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<v Speaker 2>shrouded in smoke in a game that probably shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been played. Whoever, ESPN was like, we have to play

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<v Speaker 2>this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. Friday night was worse than Philly. Did you see

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<v Speaker 1>that there there's smoke levels higher on Friday. No, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the next day was actually worse. All right, credit to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Then back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But like he he was nasty, Like that fastball was

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<v Speaker 2>in the zone, it was missing bats unstoppably. The sweeper

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<v Speaker 2>he had perfect command of it. Think like the frisbee

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this start more than the last few.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he got that color and on the lefties really

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<v Speaker 2>really well, Like he got a really ugly swing and

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<v Speaker 2>missed some Schwarber, he got a couple of uncomfortable swings

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<v Speaker 2>from Marsh like it was just he got it to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where it was close enough where those guys

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<v Speaker 2>were offering at it, and then by the time it

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<v Speaker 2>got to them, they were looking ugly swinging at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he he has everything, Like when I watched Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Scott and just filled with joy of him one being

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<v Speaker 2>back on the mound and two seeing the weapons that

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<v Speaker 2>are there. They're ready to take the next step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if he gets that next pitch, it's gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just he looked. He's a very very fun pitcher to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know, like you said, coming into the season,

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<v Speaker 1>the expectations were pretty low. Absolutely, whatever he gets is great. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>low expectations are just like pitch health. That was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we had coming into the year. Be healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Still is. But with the performances that he's giving us

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the Mets seemingly win every time

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the mound, that's his role this year. It

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<v Speaker 1>is nice to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's nice to watch and he's amazing and that

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<v Speaker 2>game as well, Francis Guilfors two home runs off the

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<v Speaker 2>break just gets to see him get confidence. Things we

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<v Speaker 2>have to hold on to.

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<v Speaker 1>Only hit him ninety only. He plays so much better

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotally hitting ninth than when they hit him up in

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<v Speaker 1>the order. And I do think a possible theory behind

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<v Speaker 1>that is because the top of the order for the Mets,

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<v Speaker 1>whether Mets fans at home want to believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very strong right now. It's a strong top of

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<v Speaker 1>the order. Shockingly, Francisco Alvarez has to get pitches in

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<v Speaker 1>the zone. One of the things that's sold him down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit this year is he's chasing, He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff. He's getting pitches in the zone

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<v Speaker 1>now because the guys behind him can hit, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to face him instead, and he's absolutely doing damage, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, again, this is very small sample bullshit. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you guys to play the appearances as I read out

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<v Speaker 2>the ops plus of Francisco Alvarez in different spots in

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<v Speaker 2>this in the order. So if Francisc galvers hits thirds

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<v Speaker 2>happened five games, twenty one play appearances, it is where's

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<v Speaker 2>ops so one ninety five ops?

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<v Speaker 1>Like just ops, not ops plus? No, it was TP.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize it was advanced all Baseball Reference stuffs

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<v Speaker 2>one ninety five ops, fourth, two fifty eight and twelve

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<v Speaker 2>twelve play appearance still nothing, fifth thirty four play appearances

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<v Speaker 2>eight fifty six great five all good spot for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixth forty three, five forty three, seventh, uh yeah, seventh

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight played appearances. That's nine to seventy again great

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason. Eight thirty three played appearance is six

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<v Speaker 2>forty six, ninth sixty eight played appearances over eleven hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was so good. I knew it anecdotically, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. But it's just there is something with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe though, Like when he gets lower in the order,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've talked about it before, when you get moved up,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets very very very aggressive, Like you're aggressive than

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<v Speaker 1>he ever is. He tries to hit the twelve twelve

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<v Speaker 1>run home run every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that, like that's kind of adorable

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're a first, second, third year player, But

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<v Speaker 2>like now it's like it's time for to become a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of the corps. And I still think with the

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<v Speaker 2>bat specifically, he will be and can be a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of the corps. But yeah, continuing struggling defensively, continuing to

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<v Speaker 2>basically split time there with Luis Torenz because he's so

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<v Speaker 2>poor there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to hit your you have to hit a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, become worth it now because there was discourse of

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<v Speaker 2>Bant francisc whoever is changing his position this weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>went around I don't know mes's played. They had the

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<v Speaker 2>day off on Friday, and then there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>the ranked de lan on Saturday. The conversations began. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get some more of those conversations like this. They got

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. But he doesn't really have another position

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<v Speaker 2>because he's like five ft ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'd be particularly good at first base,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's anywhere he's gonna play. I'm not even kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on our interview all those years back with the

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<v Speaker 1>cycle and he's talking about his youth days, I think

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<v Speaker 1>his best options are playing second base or Maurfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Third base like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really it.

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<v Speaker 2>But realistically, if you want to be a really, really

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<v Speaker 2>good defensive team in this league, he probably will not

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<v Speaker 2>do that. So a lot of the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>season will be about him taking strides on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. WI have to watch defensively, but nice

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<v Speaker 2>out of the break, starting the right foot, starting style.

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<v Speaker 1>Two big home runs. Yes, that's kind of it right

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<v Speaker 1>for this game. Shout out Bret Baty hitting well again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still as well. I just wish you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could play more instead of other guys who are getting

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<v Speaker 2>those reps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Game two was not particularly great. Sham and I

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<v Speaker 1>on the mound just kind of got smacked around. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have his best stuff. Mets couldn't touch Hazes, Sozardo

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't much of this game. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a quick breeze over and of course Code I Sanga

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<v Speaker 1>came in and stunk it up again. I floated this

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<v Speaker 1>on my channel, James, let me get your opinion. Two

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we think got nothing left, nothing left in

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<v Speaker 1>the tank. Would you make a Code I sangle for

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Javier swap just? I mean, just change it. Why not.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take your bag guy, you take our bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but definitely, but I feel like Code I feel

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<v Speaker 2>the money, do more money, so the Astros would never

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at Javier's contract right now, he like, weirdly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think signed one of those extensions. I think he's due,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think Senga probably is due a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more money, So okay, you even it out, you pay

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it would be to even it out. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>make that switch? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, But I also feel like at that point, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, Christian, yeah the big he got sixty four

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<v Speaker 2>million guarantee. Christian Xavier is making twenty one million this year,

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty one million next year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I think that's a good moment.

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<v Speaker 2>For everyone out there who always thinks those arbitration avoid

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<v Speaker 2>their contracts always win.

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<v Speaker 1>This one did not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's a good few that do not, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good reminder right there. I actually would not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not pick Christianavier more money next year than

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<v Speaker 2>go that Saanga.

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<v Speaker 1>What if they evened it with they what if they

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<v Speaker 1>gave us money?

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<v Speaker 2>The astros are giving us money?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in this fairy tale world.

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<v Speaker 2>Theoretically, yeah, sure, why not? Because I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so broken here, but there's no way that would

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<v Speaker 2>ever happen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, just worth the shop, that's worth the shop.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I can't believe he's making twenty one million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I was doing my one player for

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<v Speaker 1>every team that's going to get traded. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, they've got to be dying to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of him at any cost.

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<v Speaker 2>No this, but uh sad they Manaya has a very

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<v Speaker 2>unique opportunity against the Phillies. That's a very left handed

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<v Speaker 2>heavy lineup that doesn't platoon as much as most teams

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<v Speaker 2>of baseball, where you can't pitch well. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the first time and a half around the lineup

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<v Speaker 2>like he actually was on top of it. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>the sweeper looked nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Early.

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<v Speaker 2>He started missing a lot with the sinker late, especially

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<v Speaker 2>against the Riighties, and the Philly started scoring runs this

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<v Speaker 2>and that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not We weren't gonna sweep them. We could win

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<v Speaker 1>a series in Philadelphia and we sweep them.

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<v Speaker 2>But the issues again came and came into this game

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<v Speaker 2>because the guy has nothing like that. He got Manaia

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<v Speaker 2>out of the fifth inning, and then he came up

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixth. The first pitch of the inning, Bryson

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<v Speaker 2>Scott hits a laser beam off the wall first.

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<v Speaker 1>Which says a lot because that guy doesn't hit laser

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<v Speaker 1>beams off of anybody almost.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it more so said, and Ron and Gary

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about this in the booth that it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like it really got in Code's head. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>he got tried to be much more precise after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to be a little bit more just careful

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<v Speaker 2>of about the way he was pitching. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>that was happening afterwards, everything fell apart. Like directly after

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<v Speaker 2>that triple, it was two consecutive walks to Trey Turner

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<v Speaker 2>and kyleesh Warburn. In those two consecutive walks, neither of

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<v Speaker 2>them swunk the bat. They were both very ready to

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<v Speaker 2>get pitches out of the strikes from Code, I Sanga

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<v Speaker 2>and then after that Bress Harper hit a single and

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<v Speaker 2>then Koli and the Mets events did well besides for

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<v Speaker 2>an error from the door to actually keep more runs

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<v Speaker 2>off the board. But like you could just see it

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<v Speaker 2>in his eyes, in his body language, once that triple

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<v Speaker 2>was hit, he didn't really have anything to get through that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's He pitches like a skittish cat, which I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is just every cat. They're skittish. They like they

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<v Speaker 1>see what they can do. If it doesn't work, they

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<v Speaker 1>back away again, like they just completely get away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>They stay disted. It feels like code is Sanga is

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<v Speaker 1>just he's scared to be on the mound. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's a guy who wants the ball, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like bullshit speak, but it also feels evident.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could be bullshit speak sometimes when it's

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<v Speaker 2>about the bullshit situation, but I think this situation where

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<v Speaker 2>it's complete fucking correct, like he might even.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it like he threw forty five pitches, he

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<v Speaker 2>got four outs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like difficult to do well.

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<v Speaker 2>And again in the middle of the Phillies line up

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<v Speaker 2>good lineup right there, tough to get through them all.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a complete slog watching him in that

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<v Speaker 2>sixth inning, and it just felt like he didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>trust any of the stuff in the zone. He kept

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<v Speaker 2>trying to throw ghost forks to get guys to chase

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't chasing, and then he kind of don't have

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<v Speaker 2>anything less after that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know that the pitches aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone to begin with, it's really easy to

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<v Speaker 1>not swing at those pitches when they're not in the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a shame, Like he's one of the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like is an interesting conversation this trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe just for us, because maybe every single other team

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<v Speaker 2>in the league circled him like we're not trading for

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<v Speaker 2>him as possible, but it's it's just unbelievable to watch

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<v Speaker 2>where this has devolved to in the last three years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the guy, how how incredible he was with philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>and cothers in the zone and ripping the ghost fork

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<v Speaker 2>off of that, whether it was just the league getting

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<v Speaker 2>used to one of the most unique pitches in it,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so far away from being effective right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>The drop off is faster than I could have ever predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>For a guy who looked like he was getting better

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<v Speaker 1>as the year went on, which is not something that

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<v Speaker 1>you normally see. He is an absolute shell of himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, if the Mets were playing any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>competitive possible postseason baseball, there's a zero percent chance he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be on this roster.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be in Syracuse. No, And I think this was

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Again, these have happened over the last few months,

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<v Speaker 2>but Gary keithan Ron doing this weekend together, it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>sad when these guys are in the booth together now

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<v Speaker 2>for such a bad team. It is because they just

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little slugs isn't the word, but they just

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little downtrodden because of how much the team

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<v Speaker 2>has destroyed them over the year, and there he happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh man, they just seemed really tired

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<v Speaker 2>of watching not even this guy pitched this team play.

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<v Speaker 2>Lindor made another few errors in this game, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>just was a it was a bad vibe watching this

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<v Speaker 2>team on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we've seen this before with this team. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's bad vibes in many of games throughout the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout last year. I don't want to say body language

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<v Speaker 1>is not the right word, but the energy sometimes is

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<v Speaker 1>just so lacking, and the focus is so lacking. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do think part of it is like when you

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<v Speaker 1>see a guy like code I Sanga go on the

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<v Speaker 1>mound and that dude doesn't have any focus. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you stay sharp in the game when you know the

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<v Speaker 1>picture on the mound is not even giving you an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do anything. It's like it's a little like

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<v Speaker 1>basic what I'm saying here, but like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>shit on the field, it kind of causes you to

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<v Speaker 1>also lose focus. And also the situation where.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mets made more errors in this game, benchmin and

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<v Speaker 2>Error Semi made a misplay that wasn't ruled to error

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<v Speaker 2>like it just was another game with it is very uneven.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this the throw down to first base two that

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<v Speaker 1>went past and the throw to third base so that

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<v Speaker 1>went past and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Where to run the double era out of play with

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Sharper and.

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<v Speaker 1>The basis it's it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just sloppy baseball. And again it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't want to focus on this because the

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<v Speaker 2>Mets won this series, which positive for the first you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty minutes this episode, and when you came out

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, the team played great, like especially fantastic, fueled

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<v Speaker 2>by Nolan McLain, who came out ripping Francisco Lindora from

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<v Speaker 2>his first place appearance, ripping because he's a good baseball

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<v Speaker 2>player who hits the ball really well, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>talk a lot more about that. He's played twenty thirty

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<v Speaker 2>bad games this year. Oh no, can't believe that. But McClain,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny thing has happened to him this year, where

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<v Speaker 2>as he's had some spurts of not trusting or having

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<v Speaker 2>just inconsistent breaking balls, which is the thing that got

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<v Speaker 2>him to the major League. He's got so much more confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>so much better at blazing his fastball at the leathers, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something he didn't have. He probably had his

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<v Speaker 2>whole life. But when he got to the upper miners

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<v Speaker 2>and we got to the Major's last year, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>a pitcher really relied us I pitched, used them as

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<v Speaker 2>bats and watching him do that today when again the

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<v Speaker 2>sweeper wasn't really there, the slider was kind of hit

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<v Speaker 2>their mits, the curveball had some nice whifts, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not every single time, same as last few starts, the

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<v Speaker 2>fastball was there, and he has just he's so much

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<v Speaker 2>ways to get guys out, Like I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lost season, so it sucks, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really, really impressive rookie season we're watching right

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<v Speaker 2>out from Nolan McLain and one that should be really

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciated by Mets fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I need the Mets fans to stop doing the

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<v Speaker 1>flip flops so quickly, because I know even on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Noel McClain struggles this season at the

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<v Speaker 1>point where he was struggling, but we did not ever

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<v Speaker 1>switch the thought even on the type of player that

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<v Speaker 1>we thought Noel McClain could be, even for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, our biggest concern was hurt. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>hurt because the stuff just doesn't really seem to make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But you saw people on tour, Oh, you thought this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was gonna be a frontline starter. You thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be your ace. You thought this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I mean, you look and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's July nineteenth. He has a three three era as

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. It's gonna be he's gonna be fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>that Rookie of Year with J. J. Weatherholt if he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps it up on this bank. You keep saying that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but like he is ridiculously good. It might not have

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<v Speaker 1>been the way that, you know, the simpletons that say

0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.440
<v Speaker 1>these stupid comments had expected it. But also at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, that's why you're an idiot and you don't

0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.680
<v Speaker 1>actually know baseball, Like you have to give these guys

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<v Speaker 1>some patients. You're allowed to have bad weeks, You're allowed

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to have bad starts. He had what like five bad starts.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a thirty three start, that's a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good season.

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<v Speaker 2>Of every pitcher with at least one hundred innings this season,

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan mclaan is the twentieth lowest ERA. It's fantastic just

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<v Speaker 2>right there, and the conversation, this is one of the

0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 2>few best pitchers in the league, which and he's still.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy who's relatively new to pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a guy that's still kind of learning started

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<v Speaker 2>then to start out what he's doing in terms of

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>striking minds walk right, he's the thirteenth best in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of eight terms, Sierra, we're getting early on you guys

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's probably pretty good. He's a fourteenth best.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wow, he's It's a fantastic rookie season. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>that it sucks that it's going so under the radar.

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<v Speaker 2>I think another reason why it is because when the

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<v Speaker 2>Mets were really flailing and totally falling apart of the seams,

0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>he was pitching poorly as well. But yes, by all accounts,

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<v Speaker 2>in every single measure, no two ways about it, he's

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<v Speaker 2>having an unbelievable season right now, one that in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of rookie starting pitchers, could wind up in the pantheon

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<v Speaker 2>rookie starting pitching seasons completely missed.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I told you that he was doing this

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<v Speaker 1>all in games that don't matter anymore because the Mets

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<v Speaker 1>season's over. Does that change your opinion? What does that

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with him? He can't hit, He actually

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<v Speaker 1>can't hit. Maybe he should hit, but like, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I was told about Francisco Indoor today is that

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<v Speaker 1>he got He got hits against a minor league pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's now what we're gonna start doing

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<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna move the goldpost and talk look at

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<v Speaker 1>quality of opponents only for him, not any other player

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<v Speaker 1>in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're basically twenty minutes right now. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I have one more comment then we'll go right to Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay, okay, fine, fine, fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll save it last comment. Like a month ago, we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing the thing where we were just playing all

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<v Speaker 2>of our guys and hitting him in the same spots

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<v Speaker 2>against lefties. Right, Yes, very annoying Saturday that we called

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<v Speaker 2>out a lefty lineup, a lefty lineup with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of blatunes that have not really hit all season. I know, objectively,

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Eric Wagoman should be able to hit left handed pitching,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was grateful that Mark Fiancees was not in

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.159
<v Speaker 2>that lineup against injured right now. So it's just that

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<v Speaker 2>that's forever, whatever that may be. Franciscoal Indor, the lead

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<v Speaker 2>of spot was terrible from the right side. Bobashett was

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<v Speaker 2>terrible against left handed pitcher for Sis Squavers in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth spot. Like we said, just because his eyes got

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<v Speaker 2>really big marks. Sambion makes my eyes bleed, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just I would I'd liked for these young players to

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<v Speaker 2>have a modicum of consent.

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<v Speaker 1>Bench wasn't the line up.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, he didn't hit well, But like at this point

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<v Speaker 2>what happens game by game doesn't matter much winner loss, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a getting it to given Lindora some repste off, fine, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but just let these guys have a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>consistency in what they're doing day and day out with appletudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I don't think we need to really

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<v Speaker 1>force the envelope for a lot of the guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets roster to get into games, especially where they're

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<v Speaker 1>either not gonna be a part of the future plan

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<v Speaker 1>or shouldn't be a part of the future plan. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you want to get way.

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<v Speaker 2>I cam in some more reps to see if he

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<v Speaker 2>is the future.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can tell I got an answer for you, James,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a good one. I don't think he is

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I know what we're both believing in,

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<v Speaker 1>which is those crazy high barrel rates still to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just no club can make it work. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably just not gonna work. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the young kids play as much as possible. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus in me and play on Sunday was it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like it hurt to play.

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<v Speaker 2>It hurt me to watch him play, like both sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. I'm like, I don't know what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>There were multiple strikeouts in the scoring position. It looked

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<v Speaker 2>like he was behind on fastballs. Again tells us sign

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<v Speaker 2>that he's old.

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<v Speaker 1>Blown by from the Phillies bullpen. You know you had

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<v Speaker 1>a ron Hell was his first name, Allen Alan Alan

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>ron Hell, who is not particularly good? Tim Maza who

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<v Speaker 1>you should hit? You're alrighty, Max Lazarre, Seth Johnson, Like

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<v Speaker 1>these are the guys that you were struggling against. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't strike out against Iran, So like this, what's what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on here. Also, why didn't he rehab?

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<v Speaker 2>There was not at all two games right, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a really serious injury. There was also a post I

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<v Speaker 2>was up by Master Flip the Goat on on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>about how the Phillies post game guys who are electric,

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<v Speaker 2>they are bizarro Mets like.

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<v Speaker 1>Us and them.

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<v Speaker 2>We're living in the same world on different sides of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible to be in the Phillies situation and

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<v Speaker 1>then see their reactions and be like, what would they

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<v Speaker 1>do if they were Mets fans and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Mets every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of very bad losing seasons executively easy

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<v Speaker 2>to forget. But even after everything Nolan McClain de did

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<v Speaker 2>to them last year, they were very reluctant to as

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<v Speaker 2>Ater Flip said, give them give him his flowers after

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<v Speaker 2>the game, which a.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good three three. It's incredible, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But Price Harper at the World Baseball Classic keithrad mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to part of this game on the radio

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<v Speaker 2>that at that game he told Nolan McLain you're the

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<v Speaker 2>best pitcher I saw last year.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA, Yes, that's a sick comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, and remember that game pitched against them

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<v Speaker 2>September that the best game still. Nolan McLain's ever pitched.

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<v Speaker 1>Pounded my chest and the Mets were out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, that's we're so very much in it then.

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<v Speaker 2>But those guys are basically saying the Phillies a swinging

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<v Speaker 2>a bad pitch is they have to be more like

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<v Speaker 2>aware of the breaking balls coming in. And he's he

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<v Speaker 2>was completely unbelievably nasty. Again, We're gonna tell you, keep

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<v Speaker 2>keep telling you, guys, this is Mets fans. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>things we're gonna hold on to, giving Nolan McLain in

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<v Speaker 2>the mound, Christian Scott Carson bench a j ewing Lindor

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<v Speaker 2>So though.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, I guess, but that's just that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're Those are our guys right now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>our core, and we're moving forward with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I guess. Now we'll talk about that core

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation code God Forbid. A day goes by where fre

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>ciscool indoor trade conversation doesn't exist, because it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, every single hour, after every single game,

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>he's getting asked questions about being traded. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Will Salmon and Ken Rosenthal, those of the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna trust the most, they have no inclination that

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be traded at the deadline. They didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of comment about the off season. That still

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>seems very much up in the air, which I think

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>would still be stupid. But we're getting to like conflicting reports,

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and it just it feels like there's a witch hunt

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<v Speaker 1>out and it kind of feels like Francisco Lindor feels

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like there's a witch hunt out too.

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<v Speaker 2>And it kind of feels like, with Francisco Lindor having

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<v Speaker 2>his no trade clause as we start to have a

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>brother conversation here, if you wanted him to be more

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<v Speaker 2>willing to waive that, you make this more of a

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 2>witch hunt. You make this uncomfortable for him, because of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's been here for six years now, who's played

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<v Speaker 2>some of the best baseball in the history of this franchise,

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<v Speaker 2>who's an absolute bona fide Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think mests fans want to hear that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is. Yeah, I know, nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted five best shortstops. I think in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>the sport. Out of doubt, he's for some reason, he

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>wants to be run out of town. I understand if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look at this from a purely analytical standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the rest of Francisco endorsed contract, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he will probably give negative value for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the contract, probably.

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<v Speaker 1>And negative value meaning that when he's thirty seven years

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<v Speaker 1>old and he's getting paid thirty four million dollars, he

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>is not going to play to the level of a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four million dollar contract. But this is also that

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like stupid conversation that we have now in sports two

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, well, then you'll never have any players

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to pay these good players these big contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>which again not a problem for me. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my fucking money. It doesn't matter to me whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>But like then Francisco Indoor never would have been here,

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<v Speaker 1>so you never would have had the good years. His

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<v Speaker 1>best years are behind him, but that doesn't mean that

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>he is not still one of the best shortstops in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that is also very much getting lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the conversation people here that he's never gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as he once was, and that means he's

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<v Speaker 1>bad now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean last year was basically one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best he's in his career, and like maybe after the calf,

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<v Speaker 2>like of course, over the last few years we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco Indoor's defense the taser rate at a regular amount

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy in his early thirties, Like, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>many we say this is one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the best defensive short stops. To now, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a good defensive shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>He had one of the best five year stretches for

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive player in the history of the sport. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and again that's not where he is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to say that. So the agent curve for

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>a guy who started that high usually is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit kinder. The agent curve is very, very It hurts,

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<v Speaker 2>and it comes for every single person. But usually the

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are this type of Inner Circle Hall of

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<v Speaker 2>Famer it comes from a bit more slowly. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, look at for Cisco Indoor stats. He got

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<v Speaker 2>his fifteenth RBI today. It looks bad when you look

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>at the stats, but like he's played forty three games.

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<v Speaker 2>He had and I was really proud of Kai Creator

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<v Speaker 2>for matching this with Chelsea James after the game that

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco Indoor had it with shoulder elbow surgery in the

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<v Speaker 2>offseason and god spring training broke his handmade bone and

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<v Speaker 2>right when he got to the season, Bold's calf muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't played consistent baseball, had consistent reps up until

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<v Speaker 2>the end of last season, which was awful, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the team traded his friends, which is a weird thing

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>that I think a lot of people who are on

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong side of this take that wrong side of this. However,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you wanted this for some reason, they think that Francisclendor

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<v Speaker 2>was behind trading the guys in this team.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Not sure it all doesn't seem like that's true at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think probably the opposite is true. I'm sure

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 2>he was actually upset about losing, especially a guy like

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<v Speaker 2>Pio Alonso, who he's been with forever, who he very

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>openly was really close with. Same with brand Nemo, who's

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>been his guy since he was on the team. Neither

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 2>here nor there mentioning those names, but just been tough

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<v Speaker 2>seasons so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Team suck.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been hurt a lot for the last six months.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really unbecoming to see how sharply Mets fans

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 2>have turned on a guy that is such an unbelievable player,

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<v Speaker 2>so good in the community. Whatever you want to say

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>about the locker room. That's probably the one thing you

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>can actually get on him with the most. But it's honestly,

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of cringe what Mets fans are doing to him.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's embarrassing. It's worse. I mean, that's exactly why

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it is cringe, because you're now having Mets fans fighting

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>with Mets fans. I'm fighting with people on Twitter because

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>of course I have to defend my boy, and people

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>are getting every day. Yeah, like I'm gonna fight for

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the dude. It was a year ago that people were like,

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>borderline gonna revolt against the team because he wasn't named captain.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>After twenty twenty four, people were talking about retiring his number,

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and then those same people are now the ones who

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>are like, ship him out. He's getting old, he's not

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>playing well. I can't even believe that people have seen

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>less than a COVID season sample this year and think

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>that that's the player he is literally going to be

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year. I don't know how that's

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>even possible.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I honestly have no idea.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Is like, where's it coming from? Like how how have

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we gotten to this point? Because I really did think

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that the greater, like, we'll just talk about baseball fans

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>as a whole. I did think we are getting smarter

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>as a whole, like the group of baseball fans. But then,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>for all, for some reason, Francisco Lindor has broken certain

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Mets fans brains. And you look around and you try

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and find what the pieces are, and really none of

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it particularly adds up. No, it's not, it's weird.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And then people bring up comments like again him and

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 2>his wife got rid of the players in the locker room.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.959
<v Speaker 2>Not true, why would they have that power? Obviously you

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 2>have psychosas or some other deeper mental issue. Not true.

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Then people bring up again the thumbs down that was

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>five years ago, and he apologized that was twenty twenty one.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>What were you guys doing in twenty twenty one that

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 2>should be held against you right now, like, truthfully and

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>honestly right now, and a lot the question is right

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 2>now about just Francisco Indoor, purely objectively, what the next

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>few years of Francisco Indoor look like. And for the

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>next five years after this one, he's due thirty two

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year, thirty two and a half, So

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it comes out to one hundred and seventy million dollars

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty hundred seventy I think it's like

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty one hundred sixty hundred and sixty

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>three whatever.

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, four or five years.

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Thirty two million, thirty two point four to.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Seven yea, Yeah, that's gonna come out to like one

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty two Yeah.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, at the end of that, probably he's underwater

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>in this contract in terms of what he's going to

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>produce wins above replace.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Probably.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I think he probably has if he's a complete perfect health,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>which we don't know because calf injuries are fickled.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>They're weird.

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>A four or five win season, then another four win season,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 2>like going down to half win a year, a five,

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>a four and a half, a four, a three, you know,

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>a three and a half to three, a two and

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a half.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Like he's still gonna give us around like fifteen fifteen

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>war in the next five years, most likely. It seems

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>she pretty easy, pretty easy. It's pretty good.

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a good contract. It's a contract that you're really

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>not upset paying on the back half when a guy's

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>been so productive over the first half. And that's the

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>best part about when we traded for Cisco Lindor and

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>we signed Francisco Lindor. It feels like there's this combination

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of will Pond psychosis where Mets fancy a big contract

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>of a player is not one of the best players

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 2>in the league anymore, which is fine, and you feel

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>like you have to trade them, but also it's the

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>idea of the Mets didn't pay Pete, they dumped Nemo,

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>so now you have to do the same to Lindor

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>when he's Those two guys aren't even in the same.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Stratosphere as him. If we as a baseball player, if

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we as a fan base can't differentiate the difference between Pete,

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Alonzo Brandonimo, I'll group them together as a player, those

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>that archetype of player, or those archet types of players,

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and what Francisco Lindor is will be was all that

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. I think we've completely lost the point.

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't. It's like it's actually like comparing apples and oranges.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not the same. They do very very different things.

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>And if you had to pick one of those guys

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>that was most similar to Lindor, especially that Nemo hasn't

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>played center field multiple Years's probably pe Alonzo because.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Which is crazy bad.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and let's say at the end of this season,

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Lindor's contract was up and he was demanding a

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>five year, one hundred and seventy million dollar contract, different conversation.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>You probably don't ink that at the moment.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>You probably don't ink that, and you probably see I'll

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>be honest, you probably see close to that five for

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>one fifty like Peede Alonso just got five for one

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to fifty five. And everyone in baseball knew or knows

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that Francisco Lindor is going to be a more valuable

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>player over the next five years than Pete Alonzo given

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>health and nothing.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Against pi Alonzo, friend baseball. No, it's only one team

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>was even close to offering that level of a contract.

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's just crazy that we have to have

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>these conversations, and I have a feeling we're going to

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>have them until the trade dead and then probably even

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>after the trade deadline, because Sason, because every fucking piece

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>of content now is just about Francisco indoor trades except

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>for the big names that I actually care about.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Truthfully, I mean, what's your actual take on that? Why

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think this has become so pervasive in national

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>media and within some of the small Mets media members.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's wrong.

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Word some of the less nationally connected Mets media members.

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think there's like it's a three things have happened. One,

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Steve Cohen opening his mouth and saying the ship he

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>did on the John Hayman and Joel Sherman podcast stirred

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>all this shit back up again. The fact that he

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>publicly acknowledged that Lindor and Soto might have had an

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>issue last season with each other at the start of

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the year. That was really, really, really fucking stupid. That

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was like an all time Mets pr so tight. How

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>did that happen? How does that? How does that happen?

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.479
<v Speaker 1>How do you not see the video and tell them

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to edit it out? Whatever it is. Second, I'll save

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>my crazy theory for the end. Second, we're in the

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>same relative, same world as all these people. Their jobs

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>are relying on getting clicks. People clicking their articles, people

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>clicking their videos, people clicking their tweets. Does generate revenue.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>The more eyes that get on something, the better it is.

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And there is nothing hotter right now, especially in what

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>is a dead trade deadline than talking about one of

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the best shortstops in Major League Baseball history or at

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the absolute worst in last twenty years that didn't take steroids,

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>being on the move from a big market team that

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody loves to absolutely dumb on. So it's a perfect

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>storm that Steve Cohen said this. You can now have

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the Francisco indoor trade rumors, bring up all the other bullshit,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>lie to the people that you're talking about, sometimes even

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>about what the deterioration of Francisco Lindor could look like.

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 1>And then three, a lot of this is being propagated

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>by S and Y. S and Y is pushing this

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>shit like crazy. Couple different things with them. One, S

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and Y knows that their numbers are going to plummet

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>very very soon once the trade deadline happens and the

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Mets are officially giving up on the season. When you

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>see the good players no longer exist on the team

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're once here. They will still yeah, but the

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>viewership is going to plummet. They've got a cash in

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>big time right now. This is their moment. You I'm

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>watching Sports Night at S and Y at night because

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to, unfortunately see what people say get angry

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and then yell at my TV like a crazy person.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's working. That's what's getting me in there, so

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>people are watching. It's getting clicks to generating revenue. Two.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I throw out a really fucking insane theory?

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent?

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, crazy galaxy brain, I'm obsessed the will Ponds

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>still own s and Y. Wouldn't they love to just

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>fuck with the Mets right now and just be like,

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, fuck it? Why not let's put out

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>some information that is just going to drive people insane.

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't have this team anymore. Why not they can?

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>They own s and Y. I would hope there's journalistic

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>integrity to not do that, But at the same time,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>why not that's a theory If they're gonna make the

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>same ridiculous claims, I will too.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>No, that's kind of feels like where it is, because

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it feels like every single day there's ridiculous lanes being

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>thrown left and right about Francisco Indoor in the New

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>York Mets.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>And then especially on Twitter, if you're an account that's

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like any sort of generic chatchy BT name that you

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>got where you're like, give me a baseball Twitter account name.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>You'll see like a fast pitch down the middle or

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>at whatever it is, Francisco Indoor doesn't actually want to

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>stay in your who's telling you this is made up?

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is that's definitely the opposite. What like that.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Indoor, with a full not trade clause in his contract,

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>definitely wants to stay in New York the duration of

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>his contract and probably sign another small one after that.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Notice how it's been glazed over. How I don't remember

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>who broke the news on this one that someone close

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to Francisco Indoor says he wants to stay in Queens.

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He's going to stay in Queens.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>He wants to win at the solution winning not being

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 2>talked about though.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 1>You can't talk about that.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean after the game, Franciscal Indoor had a nice

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>long interview with Chelsea James from SNY and he talked

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that he's at least not bothered by

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>some of these because he knows they're all coming from

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>outside sources. Yes, and he was saying if it was

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>from inside, that would bother me. That is the part

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that is sticking with me a little bit, because again,

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>if you were trying if you truthfully, and I don't

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 2>think this is true. I'm saying purely in the world

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>if you were trying, if you were trying to make

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>a player possibly waive a no trade clause, which you

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>would do is alienate them, make them feel uncomfortable, and

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 2>make them feel like shit, And that would be what

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>would happen with this media firestorm is going on and

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>again in a purely theoretical world, like we said before,

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>the rest of reciscal, Francisco Indoor contract is definitely a

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 2>bit underwater, like you're probably not getting surplus value for

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the next five years from Francisco Indoor at thirty two

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>And also, I think it's worth noting too the reason

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting that surplus values because the value is

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>so high. It doesn't mean that he won't be a

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>valuable player. It just means that's not going to align

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with the money that thirty five million dollars worth. He's

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>going to pay play like a twenty million dollar player

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as he gets older, rather than thirty five million dollars.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And theoretically, in terms of shortstops in baseball, you'd want

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>him to be like a five to six win player,

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 2>which he has been consistently so far over length that

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>contract to make that contract worthwhile. Again, neither here nor there,

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 2>but maybe there probably was some kind of signal to

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the league, which again a big part of why the

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>start up was the other day when it was like

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the same Chelsea James article where he was not listed

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 2>as an untouchable, Yes, with a clearly underwater contract, as

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's aging out of the shortstop position. If

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 2>somebody wants to, just similar to Rafael Devers last year,

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.959
<v Speaker 2>take the entire contract. Davis turns the mess. Front office

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>probably listened to the conversation. Yes, that's definitely part of this.

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 2>But as we got again more updates the last few days,

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Ken Rosenthal, well Samon Chelsea James, Bob Nightingale, that's are

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>not going to pay down for the Mets, are not

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>paying Franciscal indoors to.

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Play against them.

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>No, it was probably a thing where there were hairs

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of trade conversations, teeny tiny little crumbs around the league.

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, take this whole deal. No, okay, no worries we

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>keep paying it.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Then that's the conversations probably ended right there, and it's

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the uh, it's the.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Fun conversation we used to have where it was like

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so and so it was interested. I'm like, yeah, breaking news.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested too. I would love to have him on

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the team. Can I say we're the Mets. What's Rihanna

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>doing tomorrow?

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm interested one hundred percent of course not, but

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>like that's kind of weird. Probably this was it was

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 2>probably very small conversations in the league that everyone knows

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 2>in the league.

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Happened all the time. No big deal, you have them,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>they move on.

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 2>The one time it was except it was raffaeld Evers,

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>which which.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Work out for anybody. It turned out to be a catastrophe,

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>worked up for the Dodgers.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, rest socks around fire still, but it's just

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>become this weird media firestick, and it's frustrating from Mets

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 2>fans perspective that people want to run a guy out

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 2>of town who's been nothing but great to the organization.

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Great on the field. Again, the one thing you want

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>to knacker out Francisco Lindoor if you can, is definitely

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>locker room stuff. He's been a star player who's been

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>here for five complete seasons, and the clubhouse always seemed

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of weird, Yes, for sure, with everyone to say

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that's the truth right there, Some.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>People aren't leaders that way, and he's still a great

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 1>baseball player.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just really weird the way people want to run

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 2>a guy out of the town who has been this good.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>It really doesn't feel right in my stomach. No's it

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>feels like there's like it will behind this stuff. It's

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>very bizarre. And then hearing him talk about like his

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>family and stuff too, and how like they are affected

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>by this news he is. Notice, it's like, yeah, I mean,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>we're in a world, unfortunately, where no one gives a

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>shit because once you're online you can say stuff behind

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a fake user name and a fake picture. No one

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>can know who you are. And I can guarantee you

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that his wife is getting just the most vile messages ever.

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And all of you guys who are gonna comment negatively

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 2>on this, you're also gonna be commenting from a fake

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>user name of the fake picture saying all these horrible

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 2>things that are completely unsubstantiated about Francisco indor about politics

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>or about personality, and none of them are true.

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>No, as a baseball player, that's where we look at him,

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>and he's a damn good one. Has he played at

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the same level this year? No, it's been forty games.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Check what happens at the end of the year. If

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>he has a six twenty ops, then we'll have a

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 1>different conversation. But I'm not going to count out Francisco

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Indoor from a less than COVID season sample size. Luke

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Voyd hit the most home runs in Major League Baseball.

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't fucking matter.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Tom Smith, I think he might have got MVP votes.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Tom Smith definitely got MVP vote. Tom Smith played so

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>well at the Mets thought that he could be their

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>outfielder the next season.

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I was in screw chests being like, you know, if

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to trade Pete right now, get max value.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>You got Tom Smith forever. Crazy. Take that back, But.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>That's just again, small baseball sample sizes don't matter. Especially. Yeah,

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Tom Smith got MVP vos thirteenth in the MVP voting

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty on a fifty game sample.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really Doris only played forty three so far.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>If Shae Lewis won the Rookie the year, he was

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>out of baseball two years later.

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It's just disgusting the way some Mets fans right now

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>are talking about Francisco Lindors doesn't get said it's spoiled.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's not a place that I thought, actually

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Mets fans would get.

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 2>But again, you could also, like you could be completely

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>fourth right understanding about where Francisclendor is in his career.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.479
<v Speaker 2>He's a superstar on the back nine. Yes, I don't

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 2>know how many more years he's going to be a

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 2>plus value shortstop. I truthfully don't that's fair. If if

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>next year the Mets bring up moving to second and

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>he's really ornery about it, maybe this conversation should become

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>more of a conversation. But we're not there. It's not

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>happening right now, and the Mets don't even have something

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.240
<v Speaker 2>that looks like a shortstop within two levels in the organization.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite thing, shout Joliov, who was just

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>replying to everybody on Twitter when they're saying to replace me,

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.439
<v Speaker 1>He's like, with who name one guy? They're like, find

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a stop gap. He's like, name them, say the name

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and the name that people were listening. You saw Hasung Kim,

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>you saw Mauricio Dubon, you saw Jorge Matteo, you Sawhi

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Sung Kim as well. Throw him in there, Luiski, your

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>may was thrown around, thrown around, Jose Glaciers was thrown around.

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Fuck why not sack short See see if he can

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>get out there one hundred percent, he got cup.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>We can bring it right back, right back? Why not?

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Finding shortstops is easy? Don't you remember the rich history

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of shortstops in the Mets history? James, like you do?

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 2>You guys really want to trade all of our prospect

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>capital and get Mason win with a six fifty oh ps.

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You could, because I promise you you will dislike Mason

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Win way more than you ever dislike Francisco Indoor for

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a second.

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe for a reason, possibly it was a

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 2>relative similarity, but.

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that same reason like dislike both.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>So you again, you're training for Cisco indor getting off

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the salary for nothing, just to get off salary because

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>we apparently we don't have enough money. You're trading some

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>of your best prospects from a Mason Winn who's entering arbitration,

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>who's going to be at best a league average bat.

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>We can't be the fraand base that bragged about giving

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>one sort of the most money in sports history, and

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>then say, Francisco endor it's a little too much money,

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a little too rich for our for our liking.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>The second Francisco Indoors signed that contract years ago one,

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I was so grateful that this good of a player

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>was going to be on the Mets, chose to be

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 2>on the Mets. If you guys don't remember, there was

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>a really long road between David Right and Versisco Indoor

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of like genuine superstar major league players who were on

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>this team. And then past that, I was like, you

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>know what the last four years of that deal when

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>he was so good for the first four Yeah, an

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 2>eight year contract, but who actually was.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>It was ten for no? It was ten for three

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>forty one, wasn't it?

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ten for three forty one.

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Because Tatis was ten for three forty you had to

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>get one.

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the biggest bullshit that Tatis fucked this

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 2>whole thing for us, fucking A J Preller and the Sidlers.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, he's gonna be such a funky

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.879
<v Speaker 2>second basement for the last few years. That's going that's

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 2>fun to watch a leged age out with our team.

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I think in one of our first episodes after signed

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that contract extension. That is the little conversation that we

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>had was you bringing up how, for instance, you can't

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>wait to watch Francisco Indoor be a plus second basement,

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>And I think I.

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Said at the time, I was like, the contract ends

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>at thirty seven. All these other mega contracts are ending

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 2>it forthy, I was like, he's not going to be

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>underwater at thirty seven.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 1>There's no job.

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>He's still going to be an above average either in

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 2>above average second basement.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Defensively, we're treat him like he's Dansby Swanson.

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>It's fucking bullshit. The white Mets fans are treating him

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 2>right now. It makes me really mad at the day

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>to day basis how people are acting and talking about

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Indoor. It's fucking ungrateful bullshit.

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>No, it's frustrating. It's it's a group of fans that,

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>honestly like, it's just I can't believe that we've gotten

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>there as the New York Mets for a team that

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be Uh what is was the right word enticing

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that kind of fans. We don't win, So why are

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you here if you're gonna be a spoiled.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Brat can I talk about another thing that I really

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>don't wish we were talking about, which wasn't it didn't exist?

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh please do what is that?

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Mets got dingd for some AI usage.

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, interesting, the Met's pitched well this weekend into that.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>But yea, so those report that came through a good

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>reporting but you know, say and the Athletic that a

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 2>couple of Major League Baseball teams were not out costs

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 2>not the right word, but just called out for using

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 2>generative AI models for pitch calling.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Can't get caught if it's not illegal.

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then Major League Baseball said that kind of

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>granular for a second, But we've had tablets in the

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>dug guts for a long time now, yes, probably a

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 2>decade honestly. But there's always a certain amount of tabs

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>that every single team has, and it's a lot of

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the same public facing stack has information that we all

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>have in watch games at home. If you want to

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 2>be granular and dig deep like that pitch movement velocity,

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, sometimes even like swing path like good video

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>cops bats, Yeah, yes, you could see exactly how you

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>swung your mechanics. All the stuff aside view which is beautiful.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 2>There was always a custom tab on these tablets, which

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>was kind of teams to free wheel with whatever information

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they felt necessarily deemed important to them. They could put

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>in that custom tab, and it came out that certain

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>teams had built and purchased had people outside people build

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>generative AI models to predict pitch or which pitches their

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>pitchers should throw and shout out them on the Vino

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 2>yeah for calling out the fact that the Mets were

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>at the forefront of this. The Mets were a team

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that really a generative AI model to call pitches for them.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's kind of funny because we had these tiny

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 2>stories going through the beginning of the season that the

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Mets were a team that we're going to call.

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Pitchers from the doughouse.

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it didn't really go past that the Marlins

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>were doing it openly, proudly, and I'm sure that yeah,

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and it didn't those stories never came about the Mets.

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Like we said before, people loved talking about the Mets.

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Mets go into every single National store whenever they can,

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>so it's weird that those stories never progressed. And then

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>we got this from out of Vino on his YouTube

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>channel this weekend.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 7>Did you see the story and m willb banning the

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 7>custom tab on the n dugout iPad any thoughts, Yes,

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 7>I knew about this for a while.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>The Mets were actually the team, the main team.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>That got cracked down on.

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 7>They had an AI program that was very expensive apparently,

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 7>and they were bragging about it a little bit early

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 7>on in this in the year. Some of the coaches

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 7>that I know were talking about it from around the

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 7>league and they basically an AI program helping them pick

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 7>pitches and I think some other stuff. But MLB got

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 7>wind of it and nipped that right in the butt.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 7>So apparently they weren't the only team. But I knew

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 7>about it from the Mets angle, which you know, they

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 7>try to throw some money out the situation. Steve ponied

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 7>up for I think this program, from what I heard,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 7>was several hundred thousand dollars to have.

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 2>But when none of the big report there's none of

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>the big outlets played out there and it went mega

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 2>violand to wear their shadow lazy Mary on there. Good

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 2>to other account Mets fan.

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>But that was that was bad. That was that was

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>something that went out. It was like, oh jeez, what's

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.399
<v Speaker 1>going on here? That gave me what I first saw

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and it went hey yao, was like that was not

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.839
<v Speaker 1>something that I had hoped to have ever read or seen.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Like as good as AI has been for things in

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the world right now, bad, whatever your take is, we

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 1>don't need to have that conversation. But like, the way

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that AI is now being used in our world is

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>more than ever. I do think one of the things

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that maybe it shouldn't have been used for is calling

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>pitches from the dugout is because when you think about

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 1>how many times this year me and you were like,

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>weird pitch call, Like why did they go with that?

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>And I do think that like, yes, if a guy

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>struggles with fastballs, hopefully that would be able to pick

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>up always throw up and into this guy, right, But

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we also know how shitty sometimes AI can be and

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>how wrong it can be and definitely not the most

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>accurate or most perfect even though there's tons and tons

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of data and stuff like that at its disposal. It's

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>pitching is so so so feel oriented. You should feel smart,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you should do smart things. But in terms of sequencing

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, a lot of time I do

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>think you have to go with the vibe. It's one

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of the few times where I'm gonna go old school

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and say the computers for telling you what pitch to

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>throw and what count and where I think that's a

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>little too far.

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I think so too. And I think a big part

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>about baseball is the feel and the game. I'm just

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 2>saying the pitcher on the mound versus the strengths of

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the bat. I think it's one of the best things

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>about baseball is that's determining whether as a pitcher you're

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>going to use your strengths, you're gonna attack about his

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>weakness mouse to beauty this entire game. Great tweet from

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 2>gap re paya g paana underscore and yhy chat gubt

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 2>which pitch I throw your on Alvarez Chatchy between honestly

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 2>forcing fastball down in the middle should do the trick

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.359
<v Speaker 2>and dash. It's often the last location discipline power hitter

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>expects in a big spot. Attacking zone can work to

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 2>a picture's advantage. And it's a video of yourn Alveras

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 2>hitting a five hundred foot home run.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and of course they're not using chat Gypt Apparently

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundreds of thousands of dollars of generative AI model

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>apparently a model.

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we paid one hundred thousand dollars, hundreds of thousand dollars, so.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>That person surely got fired hopefully. That's that's a really

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>bad if you if you perpetuated that, that's tough.

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do it for like a few

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 2>minutes right now? Just go into the fantasy ether and

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 2>talk about this.

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, let's talk about it.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think, like, do you think possibly from the

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 2>finance hedge fund background, this with Steve com being like,

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.239
<v Speaker 2>we have to find ways to add AI into this.

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you think this was David Stearns being trying to

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 2>be in the cunning edge? Do you think over this

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>year specifically it was Justin Willard as a new Kire

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>doing this, Like, how do you think this actually came

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 2>to be? Because it's embarrassing.

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I like to think that David Searns has as little

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>impact on in game decisions as physically possible. Yeah, if

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>there was ever a world where I could see his

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>hands getting in on in game decisions, I see this

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>more than I did with the lineup. I think he

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>would have perpetuated this, maybe more than he would have like,

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we need to get Andy Abanya's at bats. At worst,

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he would have had to have approved it. Yes, there

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is no doubt that David Stearns was very aware of

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.240
<v Speaker 1>what was going on and whether it was his idea

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>or not. There wasn't approval in place, and that is like,

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a stamp of approval that means you're okay with it,

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you agree with the theory behind it. I do think

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that probably Justin Willard is someone who was super forward

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>thinking on this as the young kind of trying to

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>break into the game before getting to the Mets pitching guy,

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and one of the things that he talked about a

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>lot was like being nasty in the zone, using pitches

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and attacking batters in ways that was a little bit

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:00.879
<v Speaker 1>different than we've heard a lot of pitching coaches talk

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>about pitching recently. It was interesting that being said, I

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think and it's I think it's been proven too.

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Mets are alone in this. I'd

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>actually I actually think it's probably not Steve Cohen. I

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>think that you can get him with the buzzwords to

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>pay for that. Hey, Steve, we're gonna use a couple

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to do his new generative AI thing,

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and because he's a finance brofit hedge fund guy goes, oh, yeah,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>AI great, we're using that all the time. It's gotta

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 1>be good.

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Too many how many stupid CEOs are doing the same

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 2>thing and hurting their own companies with less capital behind them.

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are a lot of people. I mean, we

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>get emails about this on our own personal thing in

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>our email like all the time from people clearly using AI.

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's it's an empademic a little bit how

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>much it's being used. But that's problem. At the same time,

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the Mets obviously used it, that's that's clear. But I

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>bet you the Tampa bay Rays are using I bet

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you the Miami Marlins are using I bet you the

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers are using it, the Milwaukee Brewers. I've got a

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>really good feeling that all the teams that you would

0:50:57.560 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>expect are also using It's just that the Mets, which

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>would also make sense, probably didn't use it in the

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>best way.

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>In the common from Alaveno, they were bragging the people

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 2>about how good their model was.

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I also, yeah, that's interesting. I also do think that

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a little bit of scorn from Adam out

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:13.959
<v Speaker 1>of you know, about how his tenure ended a little

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 1>bit just a little bit, a little bit scorn yeah,

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it does feel like there's there is

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>an agenda.

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 2>No, definitely, it's just it also just plays with how

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Mets this season has been to add this little cherry

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 2>on top when this news came out, just peak behind

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 2>the curtain for you guys. On Friday, Mark and I

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 2>were talking about thumb nailing headline this episode with this,

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 2>so much other bullshit happened with the door that we're like, ah, whatever,

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.640
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna we're gonna squeeze it into the end. But

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like my question again is where were it the beat

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 2>about this?

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, each you understand, the beat is not about reporting

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 1>anymore or doing any journalistic finding. It's about creating rumors, gossip.

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>It's it's tabloids. Now. The beat is not shout out

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Will Salmon because he's not like that, shout out the

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.720
<v Speaker 1>legit beat writers. But a lot of people now because

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it is more competitive than ever, they're fighting for clicks,

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>they're fighting for this and that would have taken a

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of research and doing a lot of work on

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the side and probably taking it home when you could

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 1>just like I think the metsagre and trade Francisco indoor.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Someone in the organization told me it was the security guard,

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but someone in the organization.

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Told me it even took the Associated Press to report

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>on this and talked to Andy Green about it, and

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 2>we still didn't get so much firm stuff from the Beat,

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.839
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy if this thing was happening, which again

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 2>plays into the idea that we had that a lot

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>of the team's doing this section not that big of

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a deal. It's just good for clicks right now. And again,

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.399
<v Speaker 2>it's a scoring to Adam Alavino being out with a bat,

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 2>but this is just it's just another thing on top

0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 2>of this whole thing. And weird that the story about

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the Mets calling pictures from the dugout wasn't more so

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 2>through spring training.

0:52:44.560 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Early in this season, we get to ask more questions, James,

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you just make up a trade rumor.

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>The context of this organization is so it has to

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 2>be so fascinating.

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:56.359
<v Speaker 1>It's it's got to be exhausting. David Surns has got

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to feel like not only shit because his job has

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>not been he hasn't done a great job, but he's

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:02.919
<v Speaker 1>got to be like, holy fuck, I would I sign

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:04.839
<v Speaker 1>myself up for It's just.

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get high for running a baseball team,

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 2>which is a great job.

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Moon Soto feels.

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I think WANs goes out there every single day and

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:12.520
<v Speaker 2>has great at bats.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 1>He really does. He's so good, dude. On Sunday him version,

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to ran.

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it on my phone while watching the World

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Cup five cinema. This is great baseball right here, Like

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 2>watching him buzz fastballs, like watching the layoff some tough

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>breaking balls outside his own, Like this is what it's

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 2>all about. And for sadly, it's not what's all about

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 2>with this Mets team.

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Won Soda. Not a top fifty player though in Major

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>League Baseball right now?

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Who would have ever said that?

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Wait, you didn't see this, no, oh. CBS Sports dropped

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in an article ranking the top fifty players in baseball

0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 1>right now, Wansda was forty ninth, So stupid he was

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>behind a bunch of dhs. They cited the fact that

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't play particularly great in the field and he's

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>just a bat.

0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say right now, he's probably closer to first than.

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:53.759
<v Speaker 1>He is forty ninth.

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:55.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, saying I think by a lot. I think

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 2>there's an argument that he's still the best player in

0:53:57.360 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 2>baseball at this moment because the Varon Judge is being injured.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Ohio Tian not pitching.

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>That PCA MVP calls looking pretty good right now.

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 2>See it looks nice right at PC looks good.

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for the rest of the season.

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Besides the mest dude.

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Friday night.

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Every Friday, I have my recap shift for NBC where

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I get assigned four games. I recap all of them.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>What a blessing to not have the Mets. It's so nice,

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was now Mets.

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 2>On Friday, I was ripping Marlin's Brewers talk about game,

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 2>A game so good, Garrett Mitchell, multiple amazing catches ninth

0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and tenth in and then ripping the winning single with

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>two strikes. I was like, this is why the games

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 2>to be played, not just the horrible pig me team

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 2>in Quenten.

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Such such good baseball. I sent you so many things. Also,

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm realizing over the last few days some media marvels

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't get a chance to talk about a

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff coming out of from fanatics Fest, hex Fest,

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that place that that that feels like Hell of Earth. Truthfully,

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.439
<v Speaker 1>if you guys pay two hundred dollars to go finic Fest,

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>if you think you got what you want out.

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Of it, great, I will not ship on the hobby.

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.359
<v Speaker 2>It's a good hobby, I think. But there's so much

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:00.959
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff that it's a fanavics fest.

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Derek Jeter chirping Mets fans about Pete Alonzo is super

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>super interesting. Shout out, I think master Flip retweeted a

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:13.359
<v Speaker 1>video from January twenty first, where Steve Gelbs was saying

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that the Mets are true World Series contenders with the

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>true race of Freddy Peralta, very different than his tone

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was after Carlos Mendoza got fired. It's crazy how two

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>faced everybody is. And then I mean, just like the

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>back and forth stuff. Oh, this has nothing to do

0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>with the Mets. I forgot about this one. The Lebron

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>James comment about the MLP salary cap. It's one of

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the craziest I've ever seen in my life on Twitter.

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I do think like it's one of my favorite sinks ever.

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I just learned about recency bias is my favorite

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:44.040
<v Speaker 2>thing in the world.

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like for nice.

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 2>For thirty years, basically between the Yankees and the Dodgers,

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.919
<v Speaker 2>baseball was absolutely the most pair of the of any

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.520
<v Speaker 2>sport in the league. Yeah, like that, though we didn't

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 2>have a repeat champion in twenty twenty five years.

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, what you don't know, James, is the NBA hasn't

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>had one in eight years. But definitely don't look at

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the teams that made the finals.

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 2>It also definitely don't look what happened in ten years

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 2>before that. And again, the NBA changed their entire system.

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And something that a lot of people who really are

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 2>rallying for the salary cap right now is that the

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 2>teams that develop their own players can keep their homegrown players.

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 2>So don't look what happened in the offseason in the

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 2>NBA when Jalen Brown got traded because Brad Steven said, yeah,

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.439
<v Speaker 2>we just can't afford both the guys were drafted.

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Jana to Kumbo with the organization that even gave him

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a chance, was like, I want to get the fuck

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:27.839
<v Speaker 1>out of here.

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 2>If there's the league right now, if I was Rob

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Manford and I didn't want to become it would definitely

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>be the NBA.

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got absolutely bailed out by the fact that Wemby,

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.320
<v Speaker 1>who's a super super superstar, got to go up against

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the most popular team arguably in the world in the

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.200
<v Speaker 1>New York Knicks and basketball. It's great self yeah, and

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 1>embarrass himself.

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<v Speaker 5>It was.

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>It was great TV.

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 2>No, but it's just well, well we got we're gonna

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of time. If she wanted to talk

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 2>about time, talk about labor negotiations.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's guys like Francisco Indoor who are ruining the

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>game because they're getting paid too much money and they're

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn old.

0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 2>God, so fucking stupid. It's so far it makes me

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 2>so fucking all right, quickly playing the Brewers preview, The

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Brewers series is coming week series. Oh nice, really really fun.

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 2>We almost had the matchup everybody was waiting for. It's

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:13.799
<v Speaker 2>still might depending on how the match Jack and Mizerowski, No,

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Freddy Pelter Brandon is sprote Oh God. As of right now,

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the way it has been rescheduled out is that Mislerowski

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 2>is going to pitch after his bat with fatigue for

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the Brewers on Monday seven for the Bit of an

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a Saft Freddy Peraltavus Jacob Mizerowski Tuesday seven for they

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 2>him versus her Zach Thorton for Brandon Sprote and Wednesday

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>matinee Christian Scott and Logan Henderson. But Logan Henderson also

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 2>had a forearm cramp, so we'll still see about him

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday as well.

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>He's got a very fragile body, Logan Henderson.

0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I really wish it wasn't so, because he's such a

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 2>fun pitcher of the watch and off how hurt.

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>He gets, it's like he's he's got a fragile body.

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>That being said, do you see the rumors about Freddy

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Pulta The Brewers really might want him back. I got

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a great idea for trade back Brandon Sprote. Brandon, just Brandon,

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 1>bro you can still keep Jet, keep Jet.

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're fine if you want arbitralgy off us. But

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's again, you know what, that's all's us.

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a market, There is a market, and that's really

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>good for the Mets.

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 2>This Brewers team is an absolute, complete fucking wagon.

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>This is the best version of them that they've had.

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 2>They swept the Marlins this weekend, My Miami Marlins. They

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>really sunned them, and all three games was bullpen bullshit

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>for the Marlins. The Martins had losses from believers in

0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 2>all three of the games, the Sunday which was the

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>worst of all. Pete Fairbanks blowing another day. We're talking

0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 2>talking about the Mars, I should be talking about the Brewers.

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>This Brewis team is completely relentless, like they had relievers, starters,

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 2>position players, guys at the bottom and lineup. Joey Ortiz,

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about a guy that would have

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.760
<v Speaker 2>like ended his baseball career if he was in New York,

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Joey your team, he'd.

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Be Anthony Bolby.

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 2>He came up from about in the minor leagues and

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 2>he's now playing third base. He got relegated off of

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 2>shortstop for Cooper Pratt. Now he's playing thirty. He made

0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>a little swing change to.

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Get some more power.

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 2>He's still is baciscently one of the worst hit theres

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 2>in baseball in two years. By last two years, by far,

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Bruce fans chances name. When he comes to the play,

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Brewers are gonna play him every single day. He's gonna

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 2>be one of the most played players in baseball.

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Over the last two years.

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 2>The Brewers were dying for a depth infielder and they've

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 2>been rotating between all these guys year and Joe Williams

0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 2>still hasn't gotten a shot at the major leagues. But

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>the team is just absolutely unstoppable. It felt like they

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of hit this jet stream after that sweep with

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.919
<v Speaker 2>the Mets last year. Yes, when the Mets made tons

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 2>of defensive miss cues and all the nonsense they did

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 2>in that series last year in Milwaukee.

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, the Brewers are just so ridiculously good. Keep

0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 1>an eye for Luis Laara. He's their new prospect that's

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 1>came up. They paid him already, so he's gonna be

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>there for a while. He is one of the best

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>pure athletes in the entire sport. He runs like absolute

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 1>fucking lightning. He's fast, he's a great defender.

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 2>He made a bad playing in the outfield one of his

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:45.960
<v Speaker 2>first few games, but he's still a tremendous defender. And

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the Brewers do this thing where they have three center

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 2>fielders playing in the outfield. He's one of them.

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They just have guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. That never ends.

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>It is impressive to see how well of a how

0:59:57.920 --> 1:00:00.200
<v Speaker 1>well built of an organization they have, and they they

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>imagine if they spent another forty fifty million dollars, they

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.000
<v Speaker 1>would be legit World Series contenders, and I think they

1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>are legit World Series contenders right now. I think they're

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna give the Dodgers a good run for their money,

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and especially if they get Freddy.

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Peralta, especially to get Freddy Berlta, especially if Misserreski's a

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred percentality, especially if if what's his name Kyle Harrison

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 2>comes back from injury. Just a few guys want to

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 2>shout out one of our favorites, Garrett Mitchell. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>For the last thirty days, he has been one of

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the best citys in baseball with the nine hundred ohps

1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 2>and playing tremendous defense in center field. We talked about

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Pratt. He hasn't really gotten it together yet at

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 2>big league level, but he's a complete fucking pest in

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:37.439
<v Speaker 2>the box. He can't strike him out. Jackson Turios taking

1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a step forward offensively, Jake Bowers. The Brewers nurse Jake

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Bowers long for three years, and now all of a sudden,

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Jake Bowers isn't the leite hither. I can't believe that

1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:48.160
<v Speaker 2>should happen. Like Chad Patrick has gotten relegated from being

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>a starter into a swingman role. He just shows up

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.080
<v Speaker 2>for forty pitchers. He throws non stop fastballs and he

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 2>blights people up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, he's the fastball's electric guy of the Bends.

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Real it's come annoying to watch how good they are. No,

1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>they jealous of them except for their money. Except for

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:02.720
<v Speaker 1>their money?

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<v Speaker 2>Got anything else fun about the Brewers?

1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 1>What else could have fun about the Brewers? I love

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Abner Yuibe. It's one of my favorite players to watch

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:12.400
<v Speaker 1>pitch in the entire league. He is going to shoot

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a fake gun at the New York Mets when he

1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:16.880
<v Speaker 1>strikes them out. And just be prepared Mets fans, because

1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>he is going to absolutely embarrass us when he's on

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the mound.

1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 2>And the Brewers have a very underwater contract right now. Christianelich,

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:25.800
<v Speaker 2>he can't play the field, he's got a bad back,

1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:27.040
<v Speaker 2>can't really hit right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but uh, I said no rumors of trading him? Huh?

1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess I'm only someone was gonna take

1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the contract day? Would that if we offered franciscoundor for

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Christian Elich? They take that in a heartbeat?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he voted for though that's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Elich proba kamala.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I guess, but Frankie Pepper sends his home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Frankie Peppers is in his own Here comes Franky.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Frankie Peppers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you had a nice, nice old star break.

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 3>We didn't have to watch this baseball team. But I

1:01:56.800 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 3>think they also did not mind having to watch that

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:02.960
<v Speaker 3>baseball team because these Mets played pretty good. This series.

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Can't complain. Mister Nolan McLean looked wonderful, beautiful game for

1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:12.920
<v Speaker 3>j a ewing the day on Sunday, really good. I'm sick,

1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:15.280
<v Speaker 3>so it was a nice game to feel a little

1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 3>bit better. So what I, uh, my hot take is

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:24.800
<v Speaker 3>that you shouldn't get sick because it sucks. Uh tell me,

1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 3>tell me about your favorite time you got sick, like

1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:29.880
<v Speaker 3>when you stayed home from school? What's the price is? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Geentle them, I hope you're doing well. We'll

1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:33.000
<v Speaker 3>talk to you soon. Let's go, Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>I I actually do have a favorite time.

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<v Speaker 2>I do as well home from school. I had such

1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>a bad flu. I want to say it was my

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:44.160
<v Speaker 2>sophomore year of high school. I got sick from It

1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:46.480
<v Speaker 2>was a freshman or sophomore. I got really sick from

1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots pick kicking the shit out of the Jets

1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:52.760
<v Speaker 2>on Monday. It's like fifty to nothing, it was. I

1:02:52.760 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 2>went to school the next day. I was like, something

1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:57.120
<v Speaker 2>is wrong and I developed like a hundred whatever fever.

1:02:57.360 --> 1:03:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I went Wednesday, Thursday, Friday out of school. Both my

1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.680
<v Speaker 2>parents were at work. When I was always playing video games,

1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I was I was relegated to the downstairs TV. I

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<v Speaker 2>said relegated like nine times this podcast for the word

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<v Speaker 2>that's like twelve so the where as I say every

1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 2>time every podcast, I was like, fuck it brought. I

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.760
<v Speaker 2>brought the PlayStation day and I played two K my player.

1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I built a career in three days in front of

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<v Speaker 2>that television on the big TV, and it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. I remember. I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe ten eleven twelve. My PS two broke on

1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:27.360
<v Speaker 1>my birthday and I was sick home from school and

1:03:27.400 --> 1:03:29.480
<v Speaker 1>being at school. When you're in elementary school on your birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the king of the world. That's like the best

1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:33.919
<v Speaker 1>day on the entire planet. And I remember being sick

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<v Speaker 1>and then my dad just like going out and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>for your birthday, I got you a new PlayStation two,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I can be home all day

1:03:40.600 --> 1:03:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and play my new PlayStation two. And it went from

1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the big fat one to the real thin, slim one.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is this is an all time day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget it. I was just some funny tweets

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read. I just we're an hour in,

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<v Speaker 1>go in till your camera dies. I we're good at

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<v Speaker 1>the windows open. It is a beatiful night.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's what I'm saying. We're chilling. I put the

1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.160
<v Speaker 2>funny tweet on Friday Night about Pe the Lonzo chasing

1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:04.000
<v Speaker 2>a foul ball and just running into the umpire ball

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<v Speaker 2>in the Mother of Them picking.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss him a lot. I miss him. I really

1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:08.000
<v Speaker 1>missed him every day.

1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Someone my capture was sometimes I really miss him, and

1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:16.760
<v Speaker 2>an angory Mets Giants Knicks fan replied to me, sometimes

1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:19.040
<v Speaker 2>the reclamation points I miss him every day in my life.

1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole in my life that will never be filled.

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<v Speaker 2>They will never forget David Serenus for it. There's no

1:04:22.720 --> 1:04:24.960
<v Speaker 2>logic and have the franchise homegrown guy with for the

1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.800
<v Speaker 2>home runs. Just twenty RBIs leave. You were scared to

1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:28.880
<v Speaker 2>give him long term contract?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this so funny? How when Pete declined the extension

1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that was offered to him years ago, everyone hated his

1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:38.800
<v Speaker 1>fucking guts. Now when the Mets didn't pay him more

1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.200
<v Speaker 1>money over a shorter period of time, everyone hates the

1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Mets guts. You kind of just can't win, It seems

1:04:43.320 --> 1:04:45.760
<v Speaker 1>like in this city, which is why hopefully the players

1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:49.040
<v Speaker 1>just tune everything out. Just don't listen to anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a Tweetedbuck calls to Montgomery for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>It was derogatory.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just saying, like, I was crazy, he's for

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<v Speaker 2>the home runs and only eight hundred ops and white

1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Sox fans are in my applause. Yeah, well you think

1:04:58.120 --> 1:04:59.760
<v Speaker 2>about versus Glundor right now. I was like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that was part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, don't you know you can't have an opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>anything else because you are a Mets fan. James the

1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.640
<v Speaker 1>cap conversation with me, I was like, I'm sorry, Pirates fans,

1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:11.160
<v Speaker 1>your owner sucks, so you fucking suck. I'm like, what,

1:05:11.160 --> 1:05:13.919
<v Speaker 1>what how did I get to become the problem here?

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice. It's a nice it's a nice life. Besides

1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>for the Mets sucking ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was great, no complaints, and we're gonna wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up the podcast now because I want to enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the night. Thank you, guys for listening, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for watching. Subscribe to met Stuff over on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops

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<v Speaker 1>a ring, drops a review, download and subscribe. You can

1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:34.720
<v Speaker 1>follow James on social media at James Shianna. I'm Draftnick Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll catch you guys on next one. He's out beside guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let's call Mets bright after the Loves Loves