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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast? Is sheepish about their bangers?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined in the room filled with heroes, Mark Seessler, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Feeling fresh right now? You know we've done this show

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Speaker 1: a lot, this podcast, this is gonna be your seventh

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Speaker 1: season together, a lot of episodes. So whenever we can

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Speaker 1: break out something a little different, a little new, and

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Speaker 1: put a little spin on one of my favorite shows

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Speaker 1: of the year, it just you know, it makes you

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Speaker 1: feel a little more alive, a little less dead inside.

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Speaker 1: We'll put Greg. We every year we like to do

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Speaker 1: a a double episode banger around the a f C

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Speaker 1: and forty eight minutes around the NFC and forty eight minutes. Well,

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Speaker 1: we took a look at the calendar and what we

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Speaker 1: wanted to hit before the season started, and we said,

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Speaker 1: you know, the lightning bolt or is it the light bulb?

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Speaker 1: The light bulb goes over the head, always a weird thing,

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Speaker 1: lower level, Yeah, and dog Mark wouldn't see. Let's combine

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Speaker 1: both conferences in one supersize show. So not only are

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Speaker 1: you going to get all thirty two teams, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get probably about a seventy minute banger. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this. We're going around the NFL in sixty three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Three minutes two minutes per team would be sixty four, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's not a math error by the old Zeuser.

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Speaker 1: I know that's your first thought. We have decided Erica,

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Speaker 1: who as we know, is growing in influence behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes in NFL media, it's only time, mat our time for.

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Speaker 1: She sits us down and she said, guys, this is

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Speaker 1: so hard. I was really treading having this conversation, but

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Speaker 1: I gotta move on. That's a good two weeks from now.

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Speaker 1: We're not there yet. But what we need to do

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Speaker 1: to have any chance of holding on to Erica is

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Speaker 1: to give her more pop, more power within the structure here.

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Speaker 1: So what we decided and Erica agreed to, was she

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Speaker 1: gets the control. There will be one team out of

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Speaker 1: the thirty two. We don't know which one it will be,

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Speaker 1: uh that Erica gets a step in and cut it

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Speaker 1: in half essentially, and give that team just sixty seconds. Erica,

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Speaker 1: That's that's what we're doing. Yeah, I think that's that's

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Speaker 1: a really great idea by me. I think it will

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Speaker 1: be really fun and I'm really thankful to you guys

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Speaker 1: for giving me this, you know, sense of responsibility. Right

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Speaker 1: before the show, Greg asked me to drag in a

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Speaker 1: refrigerator for him. So things are going well over here. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's something a good producer would just do. I mean

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Speaker 1: they would. The fridge has been outside of the producer,

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Speaker 1: not a utility man. Doesn't matter, Like I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: You think you think they're showing up to Football Night

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Speaker 1: in America and the producers are letting the fridge just

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Speaker 1: sit out in the hallway for a week. The producers

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Speaker 1: are bringing in someone's problem solved. Yeah, and Greg, by

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Speaker 1: the way, is not the one who should be pulling

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Speaker 1: the refrigerator to the room. Greg is I I don't

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Speaker 1: even mind. It also very small framed and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: even move the thing right exactly? Can I mediate this honestly?

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Speaker 1: Please Erica? Obviously? Uh? And what kind of gentleman would

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Speaker 1: we be if we're asking Erica to lug in the refrigerator?

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Speaker 1: We bring it in going on? You know, we're talent,

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Speaker 1: We're not looking anything Erica is going to um pick

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Speaker 1: that producer. That's great. But also Greg on air was like,

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Speaker 1: only if you were a good producer, you're calling me

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Speaker 1: a bad producer? Was like, you produce your own show, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can we revisit the common Man rankings after this, please? Ricky?

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Speaker 1: That was very fair. Greg, that was unfair, and I

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Speaker 1: think you should apologize before we get I didn't agree

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Speaker 1: with that. You are great producer, Erica. I'm just you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to producer Erica is not one of them. I'm

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Speaker 1: your producer, I'm your friend, I'm your therapist. I'm everything

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Speaker 1: for all you guys, and I don't get appreciated easily

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Speaker 1: in the top two to three producers of the twelve

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Speaker 1: We're going around the NFL in sixty three minutes. And yes,

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Speaker 1: Erica has the power to chop one team in half.

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Speaker 1: not even in this this business which has happened every

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Speaker 1: other like finish your winding long sentence. You're not finished

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Speaker 1: the fans out there that only get that one minute.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean that it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: an anvil hanging over this entire show. Well, it's probably

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Speaker 1: Erica top through the where we are at this point?

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Speaker 1: East And Greg, why don't you get us going whog

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Speaker 1: New York Giants. So much focus on the offense in

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Speaker 1: has a chance. How did Dave Gentleman? Of course, he's

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Speaker 1: We gotta see them actually produce. And that's why for

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Speaker 1: all the focus on the quarterbacks, they're just in a

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Speaker 1: bit exciting about if Daniel Jones clicks defense, No, Well,

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay them um and now in

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Speaker 1: order to turn this around, all these young guys have

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Speaker 1: to they have to be hits. I I also want,

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Speaker 1: so well in the preseason, I feel like it's two games.

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Speaker 1: two I feel like we could see Dania Jones week three.

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Speaker 1: get two games under I think elis. Isn't that what

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Speaker 1: Pat Schrummer wants to play Daniel Jones as soon as possible.

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Speaker 1: I think Eli gets September, that would be my guess.

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Speaker 1: really do. I agree that that preseason opened some eyes.

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Speaker 1: be Pats Week six. Chris Westling the Dallas Cowboys. Let

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Speaker 1: me check my notice. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling. This new wave of play callers we've seen

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Speaker 1: why there's no rush to get Ezekiel Elliott back in

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Speaker 1: is that Tony Pollard is exactly the kind of running

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Speaker 1: space for him. We've seen it in preseason action. We've

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Speaker 1: also seen Alfred Morris average four point eight yards per

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Speaker 1: carry on a hundred fifteen rushes with the Cowboys in

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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. So to me, all this attention on Zeke,

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore pairing with him, with him the I'd like

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Speaker 1: glib comments in the media. Just get the job done,

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, old Zeus or Hey, what defined success for

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Speaker 1: the twenty nine Redskins? And if success means eight or

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Speaker 1: nine wins in progress from rookie Dwayne Haskins when ever

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Speaker 1: save Jake Gruden's job? What kind of line is Jake

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Speaker 1: ball a lot. Stafford can still mash. So what is missing?

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Speaker 1: Why do we look at Detroit and say they absolutely

427
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Speaker 1: cannot do anything to stir a little chaos in this division?

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Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots and the Panthers and swept the Packers,

429
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Speaker 1: a bad Packers team last year? What is missing? Why

430
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Speaker 1: can't they have an identity now today? I'm kind of

431
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Speaker 1: with you on this podcast. We do sometimes get locked

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Speaker 1: into our narrows and and we'll beat up certain teams.

433
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Speaker 1: I am guilty of this as well. Titoons fans. No, uh,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, I would have liked to see

435
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Speaker 1: their offense be a little more competent, fun slash dangerous

436
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Speaker 1: in the in the preseason so far. Give us something

437
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Speaker 1: to hang our hat on. Maybe they're hiding something special.

438
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Speaker 1: Perhaps maybe it's that situation, But there is a creeping

439
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Speaker 1: sense of doom about the Matt Patricia era. For me,

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Speaker 1: Despite all that, the utter lack of blue chip players.

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Speaker 1: That would be the issue you have. You have some

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Speaker 1: really good positions, You have above average starters at several spots.

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Speaker 1: But who's your difference maker? Is he got to be

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Speaker 1: more comfortable to as a head coach. I think he's

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Speaker 1: shown some signs of that, if you've watched his press conferences,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. Because you never know that it's a short career,

447
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Speaker 1: this might be his chance to answer your question, though, Mark,

448
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Speaker 1: I don't put if they won ten games, I think

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Speaker 1: they're one of the twenty eight teams that can win

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Speaker 1: ten games. I really believe teams are so can win

451
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Speaker 1: and they're in that they're just in a tough division

452
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Speaker 1: West as we turn the calendar to September two thousand nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Is the quarterback still a difference maker to you? The

454
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Speaker 1: one in Detroit? It's never been a difference maker, dang

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Speaker 1: bro I mean, I'm not the only one who's seen

456
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Speaker 1: the stats like for years, Matthew like one in winning

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Speaker 1: teams South Pedrel luck never beat the Patriots. Yes, Tepp

458
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Speaker 1: of Bay Buccaneers Chris Wesley. Football is a game of

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Speaker 1: one on one battles. This offensive line loses way too

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Speaker 1: many one on one battles, and my question is how

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Speaker 1: much is that going to be exacerbated by Bruce arians

462
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Speaker 1: infamous seven step drop quarterbacks getting killed behind his offensive lines.

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Speaker 1: Does Jamis Winston really have a chance behind this offensive line?

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Speaker 1: He didn't against the Browns and then I know it's

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Speaker 1: I know it was only you know, a quarter and

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Speaker 1: a half, but sacked five times in nineteen minutes. My

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Speaker 1: one issue with that is that they're also on top

468
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Speaker 1: of the protection trying to get Jamis Winston to be

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Speaker 1: a totally different human being. Where to throw the ball away,

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Speaker 1: be safe, be smart, don't do what you're wired to do,

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Speaker 1: which is make crazy plays to turn into a lot

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Speaker 1: of interceptions or something great. Bruce Arians isn't going to

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Speaker 1: change at this point, and hearing him after the game

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Speaker 1: blame his offensive line just gave me flashbacks to basically

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Speaker 1: every place he's ever coached. It's like, at some point,

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Speaker 1: if you just leave five guys in the block in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, your offensive line is gonna fall apart and struggle.

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Speaker 1: And Arians just keeps blaming the offensive line. Look at

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Speaker 1: the mirror, m We're not in on Bruce Arians now.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I think he'll be all right, but

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Speaker 1: in that particular it's always a weakness for him. And

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Speaker 1: they also have, like you know, a lot of talent

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Speaker 1: on offense, which you could see them going out and

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Speaker 1: dropping thirty five points on a team if they can.

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Speaker 1: This is not the time about your love of Jamis Winson.

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Speaker 1: You've got Bruce Arians. I think he's got to all

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Speaker 1: pay off for you after years and we've been talking

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Speaker 1: of Chris Godwin on this podcast for years now. Godwin

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Speaker 1: Nations stand up. This is the time, I mean, the Godheads,

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Speaker 1: this is where and it's gonna all come to pass.

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Speaker 1: Peyton Barber Nations sit back, then, Jason prre Paul by

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Speaker 1: the way cleared to resume rehab activities. That would be

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Speaker 1: a nice edition. I don't know what that means in

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Speaker 1: terms of a return, but it's a positive, a nice step.

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles Nation, just like stand up. Maybe because you

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Speaker 1: have a nation, get to go to the water fountain

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Speaker 1: and then come back to your A lot of nations.

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Speaker 1: The Saints, Greg, oh, the Saints. You're wasting time searching

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Speaker 1: for notes. I know now you're just Erica's gonna one

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Speaker 1: minute you and there's gonna be nothing. Now. No, we're

501
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Speaker 1: not going to I think this defense is as stacked

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Speaker 1: as it's been in the Sean Payton era, and I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised that sort of the lack of national respect that

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Speaker 1: it's gotten. I like this linebacker group. I love the

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Speaker 1: deep secondary. They can match up with anyone. I think

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Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport is one of the players to watch in

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Speaker 1: the NFC in terms of like second year players that

508
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Speaker 1: could break out. And I've just heard a couple like conversations.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone forgets how great they were at the

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Speaker 1: end of last year. That's the reason they should have

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Speaker 1: been in the Super Bowl, wasn't their offense in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I watched the FS one has been airing those old

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Speaker 1: NFL films, thirty minute recaps of each season. They still

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Speaker 1: make them. By the way, I thought this was like

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Speaker 1: a bygone but I used to arrive like on VCR

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Speaker 1: tape in late July and it was like a godsend. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: the one on the Saints that happened to catch and

518
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Speaker 1: they were very blunt about and then finally in the

519
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Speaker 1: last three minutes their season and chance at the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl was stolen from them by the officials. This team

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Speaker 1: was a Super Bowl team last year. So what does

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Speaker 1: what does this say that they're not going And what

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Speaker 1: more more motivation could you have then what happened last year?

524
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Speaker 1: The defense, if you believe in breeze still, the offense

525
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Speaker 1: is gonna score a ton of points. This team has

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Speaker 1: a secret weapon. Remember Dante Hall, the joystick kick returning

527
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Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. They've got a rookie named Deonte Harris

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Speaker 1: who's five ft six and every time I see him

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Speaker 1: return upon he gets at least twenty yards in five

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Speaker 1: ft five return Guys that like used to be beer men.

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Speaker 1: Little gerald Ice cub mc neal action. I'm gonna save

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Speaker 1: her prediction. Our next episode is going to be our

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Speaker 1: go get my lunch props. I have one Saints related

534
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: I want to share it so badly right now, but

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Speaker 1: I can't holster it. I can't do it holstering it.

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Speaker 1: You're excited, Greg, this is your favorite team? Really? There

537
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Speaker 1: two lane ties and all that it is. But they

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Speaker 1: found some people in camp, including Emmanuel Butler. Undrafted rookies

539
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: been a sensation their their first draft pick, Eric but

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. A final reminder that the Panthers were six

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Speaker 1: and two before Cam's shoulder went bluey last year. Caroline

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Speaker 1: was a top offense UH that had scored points in

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Speaker 1: their previous nine quarters. Before the injury, North Turner was

544
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Speaker 1: on fire all or nothing. Producers were pooping their pants

545
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Speaker 1: at the thought of documenting a Super Bowl scene. We

546
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Speaker 1: know what happened next. My question is now that they

547
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Speaker 1: are healthy, and hopefully Cam's healthy, the offensive line has

548
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Speaker 1: hypothetically been improved, the defense had some much needed parts

549
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Speaker 1: added to it. Are we sleeping a little bit on

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Speaker 1: the Panthers once again being a true NFC contender and

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: a chance to win that division? Well, I would submit

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00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: that this studio is not, this podcast is not sleeping

553
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Speaker 1: on the Panthers. We see them as a contender. I

554
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Speaker 1: put him in the playoffs in the NFL dot Com predictions.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had just picked them to win the division,

556
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Speaker 1: because you know, have some balls, but your love of

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Speaker 1: the Saints, you know, because I'm like you, I think

558
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Speaker 1: there they could be a top seven or eight team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL for sure. I mean, in one beating

560
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Speaker 1: drum that's been going on the whole time, is Curtis

561
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Speaker 1: Samuel growing in DJ Moore's second year. I mean, there's

562
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Speaker 1: there are some weapons for Cam Newton finally, if he can.

563
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Speaker 1: There's no chance that Cam's is gonna come back from

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Speaker 1: the shoulder surgery and become like a Chad Pennington type scenario.

565
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Speaker 1: Now they all reports are he's throwing the ball great,

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Speaker 1: but they said that but every quarterback. Now the philosophy

567
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: is up at tick this summer. That's I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to believe anymore. It's a really fascinating time for

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Speaker 1: the organization though, because David Tepper, their new owner. You

570
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Speaker 1: feel like he wants to make changes in terms of

571
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Speaker 1: his coach and his GM. They've had a great run

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Speaker 1: here Rivera and Marty Hernie, so it's like they have

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Speaker 1: to be a playoff team or else's gonna be huge turnover.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I feel like this is a playoffs

575
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Speaker 1: or bust scenario for the coach and GM tad because

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Speaker 1: it's the one division I think of that just eats

577
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Speaker 1: itself up every year like the Eagles, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're really complete, Like where is the weakness? I don't see.

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty well built team and depth at

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Speaker 1: the skill positions on offense. And how about Dave Gentleman,

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Speaker 1: He'd be like, hey, you're making fun of my Curtis

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Speaker 1: Samuel Pick. Now give me a little credit. Up here

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Speaker 1: in New York, the gentleman's called a good month. Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Falcons Marksler, Dan and I picked the Falcons a year

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Speaker 1: ago to go to the Super Bowl, and we were

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Speaker 1: embarrassed by destiny by Mrs Fate. Yep, she's married now

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Speaker 1: to an industrial plumber, Mrs Fate. But now the Falcons

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Speaker 1: have Dirk Cutter, friend of Matt Ryan, running the offense,

589
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Speaker 1: they're healthy on defense, all the big names are back.

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Speaker 1: If Mrs Fate bangs us again, it's because of this

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Speaker 1: filling the blank reason concerning Atlanta's weak spot. What is

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Speaker 1: the reason we can't just turn around Dan and pick

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Speaker 1: him again? What's not to like? Yeah, well, besides you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna do it. I might do it. What's not

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Speaker 1: to like with the Falcons? Do you trust their defense? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would say four out of five years of below

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Speaker 1: average defense when Dan Quinn has been there, well, I think,

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Speaker 1: I well, although we don't see what they could have

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Speaker 1: been last year had been been healthy, so had I

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Speaker 1: I agree, I'm not ready. I think they're an entertaining team.

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Speaker 1: I think the offensive line that that dimitrof. You have

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Speaker 1: to wonder if his era. I mean, it's been a

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Speaker 1: it's been eleven years now here with Killable. We can't

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Speaker 1: just assume that first round picks are good on offensive line,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. And they put a lot of

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Speaker 1: money and a lot of picks into their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the key. Did that work? If that

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Speaker 1: doesn't work, to Mitro might be to your point. Mark.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to give the Panthers a pass for

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Speaker 1: the injuries last year, we should do the same for

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Speaker 1: the Falcons because that injury bug ravaged them from Week

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Speaker 1: one and never let go. And I think DeVante Freeman

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Speaker 1: is a major X factor here um as well, because

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Speaker 1: he's kind of forgotten now and Calvin Ridley another in

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Speaker 1: line for a major year two bump. But I think

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Speaker 1: Freeman is a guy that kind of has been lost

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Speaker 1: in the mix. He was one of the best running

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Speaker 1: backs in football and maybe not, maybe he's breaking down,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's a situation, or maybe he's gonna return. And

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Speaker 1: if you add one of the best running backs in

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Speaker 1: football to that offense, look out. I like the deck

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Speaker 1: cutter things. It's a narrative buster. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: deal with the last offensive coordinator. Everyone brings up every

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Speaker 1: time you bring up the Falcons, and this idea that

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn is on thin ice, Please, I don't he's

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Speaker 1: got to be in thinnes why though he's he's renowned

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Speaker 1: to be a great coach. I just think he's done

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Speaker 1: a solid. You gotta go find someone than him. Just

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Speaker 1: fired everybody, and if they had another dark January, I

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Speaker 1: think he'd be in danger. All right, let's take a

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Speaker 1: by the way, check out NFL dot com. Slash Hands

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks and you know the Schreg bomb is plugged in.

638
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Speaker 1: You know he's plugged in. He brings that Hard Knocks

639
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Speaker 1: coverage with just a little bit of extra pop that

640
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Speaker 1: you're looking st Yes, Schreger's well, he's fine, He's fine.

641
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Speaker 1: Schreger is the insider. Doesn't need to say on the insider,

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Speaker 1: he lets talking. You want to be Hard Knocks podcast.

643
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Speaker 1: Check it out every week through next week the finale.

644
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: Let's move on now to the final division in the NFC,

645
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Speaker 1: the NFC West, starting with the old Zooster Old Zeuzer

646
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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. I want to get the temperature

647
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Speaker 1: of the room here. Uh, Like most of the football

648
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: coagna centy, you boys were super high and Jimmy g

649
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: and the Niners last year. Then came the slow star

650
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Speaker 1: start at the torn A c L, the summer of

651
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Speaker 1: less than glowing reviews about the boy who would be Brady. Uh.

652
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Speaker 1: Working under the assumption that West purchased the new piece

653
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Speaker 1: scale after the luck fiasco. Where do you boys stay

654
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Speaker 1: in your trust of the forty Niners today? One pants

655
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Speaker 1: totally dry? Uh? Okay, ten yellow flood, total panic four

656
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: point two. So you're feeling pretty good about the Niners. Wait,

657
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Speaker 1: tann is total panic? Ted is a totally yellow flood?

658
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going on six point I'm meant to

659
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Speaker 1: be on that checking to answer it, I took the

660
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: way you're asking. I'm gonna say six and a half.

661
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: In reality, I'm fine if they're great or if they

662
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: stink they're not good. I don't mean like personal steaks,

663
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: just like a where I'm saying, where do you stand up?

664
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Speaker 1: Do you believe this team is gonna be I'm right

665
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: or good? I think they have more questions than answer. Yeah,

666
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: it looks good on paper, I'm I'll put it at five.

667
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: But the problem is a lot well, but a lot

668
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Speaker 1: more tends to go wrong in a season because because

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Speaker 1: I want it's a total wait and see. For me,

670
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Speaker 1: it's like you can't. I just can't look at anything

671
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: they've had over the last years and making a sess.

672
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Speaker 1: Not in the NFC, I think the thing I'm most

673
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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I want to see garoppolod

674
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Speaker 1: well with Shanahan, the receivers, you don't know who's gonna

675
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Speaker 1: step up. The key for this team to me is

676
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, de Ford DeForrest Buckner. If they're all healthy

677
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: and have the type of seasons they could, they're gonna

678
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: that's the best trio defensive line maybe in the league,

679
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: and they alone, I think can carry this team this division. Rivera, Quinn, Shanahan,

680
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: all these guys that are on thin ice. It's like,

681
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Speaker 1: you got it? Who are you gonna go get? That's

682
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: better than these coaches. They're all gonna flip flop and

683
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: just hire each other's coaches. Man, I love watching Matt

684
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Breeder run. He is like he's taking Twitter by storm.

685
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Speaker 1: This also a setback for McKinnon. So who knows what's

686
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Speaker 1: going on with him? The Seattle Seahawks. Alright, alright, Mark Sela.

687
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Speaker 1: You know sometimes his parents we wonder what happened a

688
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: few years back. We were loose and free and staying

689
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Speaker 1: out till four am with boundary pushing twins named Chardonnay

690
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Speaker 1: and Ralph. But now dad's are tired, wearing dad clothes,

691
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Speaker 1: folding laundry. Moms would rather fall asleep at eight pm

692
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Speaker 1: than danced under the light of the scope ball. The

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00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks were that vibrant young thing for so long. Have

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Speaker 1: they finally become the tired, over extended parents of the

695
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Speaker 1: NFC NFC West Or is there one more adventure in

696
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: the tank? I thought yes. Last season was kind of

697
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: a a new beginning for the Seahawks rather than them

698
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: holding on right. Analogy If anyone though, is kind of

699
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: going out, you know, late at night and not worrying,

700
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: but it's peat Carroll, you know, well that's true about

701
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Speaker 1: in a youth. I don't know if I look at

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Speaker 1: the roster that way, but I think this team is

703
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: on the couch with Bob Bonds. There you go. It's

704
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: a weird team. It's a weird Seahawks season. When you

705
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: look at the offensive line as one of the strengths.

706
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Remember that's all we ever talked about, and now it's like,

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Speaker 1: I think, actually, they should be fine. They should be

708
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Speaker 1: able to run the ball. Well, if you have Russell

709
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Speaker 1: Wilson and you have one of the best defensive coaches

710
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Speaker 1: of his era, I just feel like that you start

711
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: with like a six seven wind floor and so the

712
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: bottom is not gonna fall out. I'm a little bumm

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Speaker 1: that you're speaking this way, Greg, because I was hoping

714
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Speaker 1: you were also going to go against Seahawks and then

715
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: I could take your corner from last year when people

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Speaker 1: overlook the Seahawks in the NFC and then all of

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Speaker 1: the eight I'm giving them eight wins, you know. Just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. That's a boring folding. All right. Well,

719
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: then I am on island here. I think it's a

720
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: double digit win team. Corners open, Quarners open. I'm gonna

721
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Speaker 1: take the quarter and you have to trust the coaching them. Wow,

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Speaker 1: development has Twitter is strange podcast Beast pod. I mean

723
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, do you know. And like

724
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: a fantasy draft when your pick is up seven six, five,

725
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: four three and you have the guy that you want

726
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: and then he's there and you get to grab him,

727
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Speaker 1: That's how it felt. Just now a good Seahawks. I'm

728
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Speaker 1: on the corner and the same way that we don't

729
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: really care about anyone's fantasy team. I'm not sure I

730
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Speaker 1: care about that anology from you either enjoy your your

731
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Speaker 1: fifth round picks and journeyman on the defensive line Greg

732
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: the Rams. I want to see what Sean McVeigh does

733
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: offensively this season, just schematically, because it wasn't just that

734
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: they struggled in the Super Bowl. It was that game

735
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: against the Bears and the Eagles and the Patriots did

736
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Speaker 1: a lot of same similar things that the Bears did,

737
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Speaker 1: and I just think after a couple of years, McVeigh

738
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: is smart, he knows he needs to stay ahead of

739
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Speaker 1: the game, and he's one of the most brilliant minds

740
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: we've seen come into the league. And I just want

741
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: to see what happens because I don't believe in a hangover.

742
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: I believe in this roster. You know, I don't see

743
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: any reason why you can't just pencil them in and

744
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: put them right back in the playoffs and and probably

745
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: with the Eagles as as the favorite for a bye,

746
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: because I don't think the division is that great. Well.

747
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: McVeigh is sort of known for running out of the

748
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: same alignment, not mixing up things too much beyond say,

749
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: like the jet fly sweeps in the commotion going on

750
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: in the backfield. So I think it will be interesting

751
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: to see if he gets more creative, comes out of

752
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: those alignments and tries new things. And they can run

753
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: anything from you know, any formation, so they are creative.

754
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: It's just I think what he's done, he knows. I mean,

755
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's the story of the NFL. You always

756
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: have to be evolving. I know, September essentially just does

757
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: not matter by the time we get into the heart

758
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: of the season. But they have the Panthers Saints and

759
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Brown's two of those very good pass rushes right out

760
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: of the gate, and I feel like this is a

761
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: team that needs a fast start to quiet the echoes

762
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: on Jared Goff and the rest. And that's a taller

763
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: to right out right out of the gate. It's been

764
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: a quiet summer for them, and um, that's a good thing,

765
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: I think after last year and all the hype. It

766
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: for them to be a little bit more under the

767
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: radio radar is a good thing. And one other guy

768
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: it's under the radar, Cooper Cup, who tore his knee

769
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: up last November. I was I believe. Jay Glazer wrote

770
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: last month that Cup cups test scores coming out of

771
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: his brake's agility, quickness every test time better than it

772
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: was before he tore his a c L Well, that

773
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: sounds promising. That offense wasn't the same without him. If

774
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: Cup comes back and he's Cup right away, they're gonna

775
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: be fine. I don't know about the Top Girley situation.

776
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson. There's the offense. If there was any problem,

777
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line. Cardinals Chris Wesley close out. The

778
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: NFC West spotlight is on this offense with click Cliff

779
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. It was an offense that last year,

780
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders, finished last on first down, finished

781
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: last on second down, finished last on third down, finished

782
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: last in the first half of games, finished last in

783
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: the second half of games. Finished last at home, finished

784
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: last on the road. Not good. That's the offense. While

785
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: everybody's concentrating on that, I would submit that the defense

786
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: might take the offensive place as last at home, last

787
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: on the road, last on first down, last on second down. Last.

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: This might be the worst defense in the NFL, starting

789
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: with a secondary that we'll be playing without its top

790
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: two cornerbacks for the first half of the season and

791
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: a coordinator who really has never had success as a coordinator.

792
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: Bence Joseph. Yes, you paid to bring a grim picture here,

793
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. Well, they spent the off season

794
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: collecting everybody's cast offs and turning them into starters on

795
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: on defense. I keep saying like twenty eight teams could

796
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: win ten. It might be thirty. It might just be

797
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Dolphins are the ones that are

798
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: hard to imagine. It's really hard to imagine the Dolphins.

799
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Speaker 1: I mean the Cardinals having a winning record and it's

800
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray staying healthy. Tyler media would have to take hold.

801
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: And the thing here, it's not it's not you know

802
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Vic Fongio as your head coach, where you're gonna give

803
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: him three It's like Fick, Kingsbury is a very boomer

804
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Bus scenario in terms of he walked into a situation

805
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: where it's good because the offense was so boring. We're

806
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be more exciting. But there was so

807
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: much work to do on this roster that they could

808
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: still win two or three games if they If they

809
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: move the ball and they're exciting offensively, that's that's winning

810
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: enough for Kingsbury in year one about David Johnson. David

811
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Speaker 1: Johnson and Kyler Murray. If they're both looking great, you

812
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: can't talk yourself unto them being contention. Is the defense

813
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna because of that defense? And unless they're dropping thirty

814
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: five points, you know it's even maybe the running show?

815
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: And how good are we talking about? Like a top

816
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: ten offense? I don't know what what position is really

817
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: good on this team? Maybe running back, yeah, running back,

818
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. When Chandler Jones is on the field, maybe quarterback.

819
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: But but the is a lot of learning to do. Halftime. Oh,

820
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: we haven't had that team pop up yet, the one

821
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Speaker 1: minute team. That's right, So we're down to sixteen after

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Riggy? Has the show been so far?

823
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: It's going so fast it's hard to really get you.

824
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Guys are actually kind of interesting when you keep it tight.

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00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: Did you make that call, by the way, about the

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Speaker 1: fridge I'm working on now, I got my tool, said,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm building it from scratch, trying now for water. Alright,

828
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: so we're halfway. Just like walk it, walk by it

829
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Speaker 1: every day for two months. You have to have some respect,

830
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: self respect. Why are we digging deeper into this pit?

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Speaker 1: This is our halftime show look on riggy holiday space

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Speaker 1: right now. Okay, I'm not worried about it. The fridge

833
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: has become an issue for the podcast. I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: You know what, old Zuser might lumber up and bring

835
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Speaker 1: it in just to end this. That'd be smart situation.

836
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Someone is dragging it in now coming in Ryan Bartlett.

837
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's a corn fed Midwestern boy. Yeah. Greg

838
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: keeps looking at his microphone like something's wrong with it.

839
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: But I turned him down about five minutes ago, so

840
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: he keeps looking at it to see if if he

841
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: did something wrong. But as Mike's off and they're a

842
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: producer who has more power than anyone podcast, here we go.

843
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the a f C. Still off love

844
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Speaker 1: you recky. All right, here we go. Let's start with

845
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Speaker 1: the new England poop Triots. Center David Andrews could be

846
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: done for the year after being diagnosed with blood clots

847
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: and his lungs. Second year UH left tackle Isaiah Win

848
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: looks promising, but that's their third starting left tackle in

849
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: his many years. Factoring in the unsettled line, the untested

850
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: options at the playmaker positions, UH, could we be looking

851
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: at an especial especially sluggish start for the Patriots this year.

852
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Now we know they're slow start, but isn't there more

853
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: reason to think than ever that the offense specifically could

854
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: really struggle in the early going. I used to I

855
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: don't know that that felt like the story during the

856
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: entire offseason. And then August comes around and it feels

857
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: like they're fine. I just you know, Josh Gordon's back,

858
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle is running better than he ever has. Um,

859
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Jacoby Meyers shows up. I don't know. I figured the

860
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Patriots are just they'll find a way to figure it out.

861
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: They lost one of the best centers in football, David

862
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: Andrews too. Some serious blood clots might end his season.

863
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: I mentioned that, Um, but I'm saying that's the best

864
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: offensive line they've ever had was last year. They brought it.

865
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: They brought him back. I think when you know when

866
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: should be fine at left tackle, he's looked good, but

867
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: they have the deepest back to We haven't seen it.

868
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: We've seen in the preseason a little bit. You're right,

869
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean you haven't. You haven't seen it. But I

870
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: think it's a defensive team. I'm wondering what Bell like

871
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: if the momentum from the end last season in the

872
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: way that he can construct a pass rush through all

873
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: these guys like high Tower and Van noy Winovich, you

874
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: know where it's not guys who win one on one necessarily,

875
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like you can line up up

876
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: at every any situation. I don't know. I think Belichick

877
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: is just loving this girl. I think that Josh Gordon

878
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: reinstatement is just massive for this team. And Belichick is

879
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: very close to Tom Landry's twenties straight winning seasons. I

880
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: think he absolutely that is a goal of his. He

881
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: has featured heavily on the Tom Landry Football Life, and

882
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I think that it is on his radar and he

883
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: is going to burn to get this team to ten

884
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: to eleven. It's on his radar that he was in

885
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: the football life. Know that that Tom Landry, that is

886
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: one of the that is one of the records that

887
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: will never happen again. I think in foot Buffalo Bills

888
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. From an organizational foundation perspective, I think Josh

889
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Allen is one of the most fascinating players in the

890
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: league this year. It's important for quarterbacks to command respect

891
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: among teammates and coaches, but it's so rare for a

892
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: quarterback with major issue us an accuracy and decision making

893
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: to command that respect, which is why I find it

894
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: odd that anytime a Bill's player or coach speaks about

895
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Josh Landry, it's with the utmost certainty that he's going

896
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: to be a star. Everybody is so confident in Buffalo

897
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: that this guy is the answer and the leader um

898
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: and then a guy like Jordan Palmer, who saw him

899
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: in the off season, says he's got the most talented

900
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: set of physical traits that I've ever seen in a quarterback.

901
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: So to me, like Kyler Murray is one of these

902
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: guys who from an organizational foundation perspective, is fascinating, but

903
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is too. I mean, he's it's it's almost

904
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: mythical his arm strength, and we know there's issues with accuracy,

905
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: or maybe there is, maybe there's not, but you also

906
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: forget that he led the team in rushing last year.

907
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: He is an outrageous talent. And as much talk as

908
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: there is about Lamar Jackson for his two way abilities,

909
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: maybe Alan doesn't get enough love for that. He's truly

910
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: a special specimen. I think I like what they did

911
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: with the cold Beasley John Brown another team adding those

912
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: two guys that may not we're talking to. Wow. You

913
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: these aren't like huge, like game changing type talents, but

914
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: it is exactly what Buffalo needed. They have a deep backfield,

915
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: like they're deeper than they thought they would because of

916
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: Devin's Singletary in the in the backfield, and I think

917
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: he can He's in position to make a leap where

918
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: they were the most talent poor offense in the league

919
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: last year to some degree and having to do crazy

920
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: stuff with their playbook, right, can Brian Dables, you know,

921
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: call the right plays because with that running game, you know,

922
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and Losan mcquila great in their preseason effort,

923
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: and Singletary had a monster camp like Lamar Jackson, Josh

924
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Allen so to have open throws, I mean because of

925
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: the running game, because of his running game. But quarterbacks

926
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: is not just how hard you throw it. You need touch.

927
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: He has no touch that he sees, show no ability.

928
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: They're still talking about how he's firing in a hundred

929
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: in organic fish tag with Mark Seler. Let's drunkenly fall

930
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: into that fish tank and explore why the organically reloading

931
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: fins would go after Jadeveon Clowney in August serenade me

932
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: with your big brains. I'm surprised this is getting so

933
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: much criticism people who are really in on Oh my god,

934
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: they have to rebuild, they have to tank. I mean,

935
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: the point is to have good players on your team.

936
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: And and if they believe that getting Clowney for a

937
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: couple of pieces that they want to get rid of anyways,

938
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: like Kenny Stills and Kenyan Drake or whatever it ends

939
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: up being, and getting him signed long term eventually, that's

940
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: the way to do it. Like to get him sign

941
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: long term. It's not just you can't just there's no

942
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: reason to bring him in for two seasons. Yeah, But

943
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: if Kennyan Drake, if you're not him you have. This

944
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: is like the framing Kennyan Drake, a guy that's a

945
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: talent running back that they don't seem to love, Kenny Stills,

946
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: who's gone sideways with the ownership. And let's say I

947
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: don't know, a third round pick, what is what is

948
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: irreplaceable from that move? I feel like it would be

949
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: a no brain. I don't mind giving that up. I've

950
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: been wondering if you lose you gotta you gotta draft

951
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: pick for two years. It feels a little strange to me,

952
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: That's all. But that's fine. But I mean there's if

953
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: they have them, they are by far the most likely

954
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: team to sign him to a long term extension because

955
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: that's just how the NFL works. They'd have the franchise tag.

956
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: And if they just give him money, I mean, that's

957
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: all it comes down to. And then like, if they

958
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: just pay him money wants so you know what pro

959
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: athletes love playing in Southern Florida in Miami. I feel

960
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: like that could be a big part of the recruitment process.

961
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like he's into Philly and Seattle,

962
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: so we'll see money will could change that. What else

963
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: you got, I mean the Dolphins. To me, I find

964
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: interesting because of the Josh Rosen thing, because you have

965
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: to figure out what you had. All this rebuilding thing

966
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: was about going into next year's draft and getting their quarterback.

967
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: You've got one that you think you want to look at,

968
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: and the reviews have not been good. And for all

969
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: the reasons we thought that we would be ahead of

970
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen's arc of he's not a problem. Forget this

971
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: millennial issue and all this other business. He's not someone

972
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: that coaches seem to love wherever he goes. Fish Patrick

973
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: in the preseason by far, I mean it's been mixed reviews.

974
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: You've heard things like that, and then you've heard things

975
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: like the same old stories are. That's hard to He's

976
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: hard to evaluate behind that offensive line. New York Jets

977
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: greg Or isn't all. Is this gonna be Joe Douglas's

978
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: finest hour this week? I mean, this is Joe Douglas week.

979
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Jets fans didn't like that. I said they might add,

980
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, five ten players before the season starts. They've

981
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: already done too. They've already added two veterans, including including Okay,

982
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: we've got two and we haven't even got the cuts

983
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: yet they made a trade for Nate Hairston. The bottom

984
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: of this roster is one of the worst bottom of

985
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: the rosters in the NFL. I think that's what separated

986
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: the Patriots, for instance, from other teams. They have a great,

987
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: great thirty to fifty and I think if if Douglas

988
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: can have a big week, let's say, Nate Hairston, this

989
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: guy they just traded for from the Colts ends up

990
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: just being a solid contributor. Keep stacking guys like that

991
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: and you and you have a decent bottom of the roster,

992
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: the player. You know, the sky's the limit. I think

993
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: this is a playoff talent team at the top. He

994
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: doesn't get his first real bite at the apple until

995
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: obviously free agency and the draft process. That was the

996
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: unusual nature of the turnover in the front office for

997
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: the Jets. But yes, this is his chance now to

998
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: start making the minor moves to treat. Can't you just

999
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: iagine the moniche meta, you know, the hot piece in

1000
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: mid October, going through all the guys they added in September.

1001
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: It's like, these are the Douglas boys. You know, no

1002
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: one wanted them, and now the Jets are five spot

1003
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: right now, because if the season goes terribly, he won't

1004
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: get killed for it. And if they overperform and things

1005
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: like that happen, he will be hailed as a savior.

1006
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: So yes, as much pressure as there is on Douglas,

1007
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: and there are reasons why people would have said, why

1008
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: didn't he hang back and wait for more job offers

1009
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: so he could weigh the different ones as opposed to

1010
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: take taking what seems like a curse job in general

1011
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Well, maybe because the opportunity is here

1012
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: to really build something and Sam Donald's a big part

1013
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: of that time. I think the switch flipped on Donald

1014
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: last December. I was waiting to see a little bit

1015
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: of what happened this summer with him too, and every

1016
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: little bit of evidence suggests that it did, and that

1017
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: is huge for New York. Douglas needs to find some

1018
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: pass rushers, some linebackers periods, like linebackers, cornerbacks. It's tight

1019
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: ends the offensive line is set, but I don't know

1020
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be good or not. Joe's having out

1021
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: a pass Russia since John Abraham a boot thousand five.

1022
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: Al Right, Moving on the a f C North Chris Westling,

1023
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. I think I'm guilty of this. I spent

1024
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: the offseason hyping the Browns and I still love the roster.

1025
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: But we know, and Mark has hit on it, they

1026
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: have a major concern on the offensive line. And now

1027
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I look at the Steelers, look up and down their roster,

1028
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: and where is the concern? I think some people think

1029
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver is unproven, but haven't the Steelers earned the

1030
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt at that position by now? Oh yes,

1031
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: to me? They have the third best playoff odds in

1032
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: the a f C, behind the behind the Chiefs and Patriots.

1033
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: And I see no week spot on this team. Me too,

1034
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: because I like the secondary and if there's a weak spot,

1035
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: it's like I want to see Mike Tomlin turn uh

1036
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: a sizeable amount of talent into a top six or

1037
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: seven defense. Just hasn't happened. It's very He's always in

1038
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: that ten to twelve range in terms of defensive devo

1039
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: and not a bad defense, not a great one. This

1040
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: should be his best defense. Well that's on Keith Butler too,

1041
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: But I'm with you that I feel like you know

1042
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: this offseason and it's so interminedly long, that like we've

1043
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: come full circle where now we do see the Steelers

1044
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: for what they are, one of the best offensive lines

1045
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: in the a f C and lots of talent, and

1046
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: why we why were we ruling not us, but people

1047
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: knocking them out of the playoff picture three or four

1048
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: months ago. I mean, it's absurd. I think it's because

1049
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: of your Browns, I know, but that and then it

1050
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: that all becomes but please, no, no, no, don't take

1051
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: it easy. I'm saying it's because the Browns are the

1052
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: new kids on the block. So it's like we have

1053
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: to get rid of somebody. The Steelers were done with

1054
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers already, but the reality is the Steelers are

1055
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: not done. And for what was just saying this team

1056
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: is loaded division. We didn't know that James Washington was

1057
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: going to come into camp a different player than he

1058
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: was a year ago. We didn't know that Deonte Johnson

1059
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: could be an impact rookie, or that Devin Bush was

1060
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna be that guy they've been looking for to replace Shasy.

1061
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: Some of the young guys in the secondary trill Edmonds Um,

1062
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Cameron Sutton supposedly looking really cam Kelly from the A

1063
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, so that makes a difference. They need Roethlisberg

1064
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a little better. I mean I think he was.

1065
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: I think last year was probably his worst year. I

1066
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: can put Outsiders disagrees with you vehemently. They have him

1067
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: as one of his best passing seasons. Watcha for Devon

1068
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: Bush to moving on to the Baltimore Ravens and the

1069
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: old Zeus ser Sorry, guys. The popular line of thought

1070
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: this offseason is that the year two growth of Lamar

1071
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Jackson will dictate whether the Ravens are an NFC a

1072
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: f C contender or an also ran. But that's obviously

1073
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: too sample. What besides a stumble from Jackson will keep

1074
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: this team from contending for a division title come December? Like?

1075
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: What else? What are? What are? What's another chink in

1076
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: the armor? I don't ye? Go ahead. They lost more

1077
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: than half their sacks, pressures and hurt hits from their defense.

1078
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: UM still surprised. Drill Suggs isn't on the team anymore.

1079
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Tim Williams, Tis Bowser, These guys they've drafted in the

1080
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: past who haven't played much at all, they're gonna be

1081
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: taking major snaps now. Jalen Ferguson he drafted in the

1082
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: third round. It'll be interesting to see what he does.

1083
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: But I think that front seven can they get after

1084
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: the pastor because that secondary has been used to them

1085
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: getting after the past. I mean, Lamar Miller talked about

1086
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: recently throwing the ball thirty times a game. I'll wait,

1087
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: I'll see. I'll believe it when I see it. Number one,

1088
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: But thirty times a game, to who like, I like?

1089
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: It just doesn't to me is not a wide receiver

1090
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: group that's gonna get you out a lot, a lot

1091
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: of a lot of I think Mark Andrews and Hayden

1092
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Hurst are like the tight ends in Willie Snead and

1093
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: and yeah, and the rookie Miles Boy can. I mean

1094
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: you're right, we haven't seen Hollywood Brown except for a

1095
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: few plays, but he's an ex factor. But I picked

1096
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: him to win the division. I think they're I think

1097
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: they're a very solid team and they're right up there

1098
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh for in terms of reliability. For I have three,

1099
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: at all, three top AFC North teams in the playoffs.

1100
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: The secondary with Earl Thomas, I mean, I think he

1101
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: could be come back player there. All those young guys

1102
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: you mentioned Russ in the past or West supposedly haven't

1103
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: stepped up having had a good camp, and Pernell McPhee

1104
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: their old friend is probably gonna start, which is a

1105
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: bad sign thing for them. Uh. Man, that would be

1106
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of weird if it was the front seven of

1107
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens that that let them down. You're so used

1108
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: to the defense carrying the carrying the load. I don't know.

1109
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they've earned the bed of the doubt

1110
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: from me, the same way the Steelers with the wide

1111
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: receiver room that they're going to figure out. That's fair

1112
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: to man, Mark, that's the top of division. Really it

1113
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: always has been. Nothing's changed. I think everyone assumed all

1114
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: these things have changed. Nothing's changed the Cleveland Browns. Greg

1115
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: alright in Cleveland. I had a whole spiel, but I'm

1116
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: now peaked by by what Mark just said. How it's ridiculous.

1117
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: How now the people have gone away from the Cleveland

1118
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: Browns as we approached this season? Is this is this

1119
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: on your radar? I may not be level headed on this.

1120
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: So if you had a logical argument, continue with it. No.

1121
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, uh that you think like people are now

1122
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: dismissing I think there's the exhaustion with the Browns, which

1123
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: if it were another team, I would totally be buying

1124
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: into and feeling that exhaustion. So I I understand. I

1125
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: take a look at that pass rush against the Buccaneers

1126
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: with Olivia Vernon and Miles Garrett meeting at the quarterback

1127
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: on every play that I don't get you fired up

1128
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: about the Brown I feel like they may have to

1129
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: have some games where their defense, if the line is

1130
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: the offensive line struggles and they are not scoring points

1131
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: the way people think. It may be the pass rush

1132
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: and the defense that has to get them out of

1133
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: jams and win some games. But I think they're gonna

1134
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: be fun. They'll be relevant and fun. That's all you

1135
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: like to say. Sign up, Fawn, it's my world. That's

1136
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: the team you cut in half. It's my world. That

1137
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: was you like to say, sign up, Fawn, it's my world.

1138
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: Oh you heard that is untoward. Let's move on. Mark

1139
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati Bengals. Well, and I get another team

1140
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: that I This fan base is on my back thinking

1141
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: that I constantly kill him, and I do. So I'm

1142
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna give you a couple of things I like about

1143
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: the Bengals, beyond Joe Mixing and a J Green, I

1144
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: like rookie runner Nie Anderson, who looked great catching the

1145
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: ball against the Giants. He's been out of football for

1146
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: a year. I like Ryan Finley is Dalton's backup. I

1147
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: don't know what that does unless Dalton gets hurt, though.

1148
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: I like the depth in two places tight end. I

1149
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: like the D line, maybe wide receiver. But what am

1150
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: I missing? Is there anything here to make me look

1151
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: like anything other than a raging flousy for predicting doom

1152
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: for Mike Brown's plaything. I want to be more positive.

1153
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: Help me a loose woman. Yeah, I'd be like a

1154
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: male version of a loose woman. If I get this wrong,

1155
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: you hit on it. It's the defensive line and and

1156
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: maybe the names don't jump out, but just what what

1157
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: we've read in camp and the depth that they have

1158
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: with Atkins Dunlap. They think Carl Lawson's really gonna step up.

1159
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: He's looked great, Sam Hubbard. I think Andrew Billings is

1160
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: a good guy in the middle, like they have numbers there,

1161
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: and I think if they get a good enough pass rush,

1162
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: it could be a better defense than we've seen. That's

1163
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: that's their recipe. We all agree that the other three

1164
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: teams in this division are either a F C contenders

1165
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: or very free ski with a with a very high ceiling.

1166
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: I think, Uh, speaking of the Browns, um it just

1167
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: seemed to be in such a tough spot. I mean,

1168
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: it's just it's almost I mean, they're announcing that an

1169
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie Damian Willis is starting at wide receiver like

1170
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: weeks before the season. That's not most teams aren't doing that.

1171
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: I think if you look at there, If you look

1172
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: at there, because they were such a good drafting team,

1173
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: you look at their first round picks over the four

1174
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: last four or five years, they have not panned out

1175
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: for injury or play, and that's where I think started

1176
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: things start to go south a little bit. They've had

1177
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: a lot of bad luck on that offensive line combined

1178
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: with bad drafting. Cedric Abouoller and Jake Fisher killed them

1179
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: for a few years, and now Jonah Williams out Billy Price.

1180
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: Looks like the year after you get taken number one

1181
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: overall as a center, you can't even beat out a

1182
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: journeyman for the starting job. Yeah, I mentioned I wonder

1183
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: if they'd trade for for Trent Williams. Tasty Moving on

1184
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: to the a f C South, Chris Westling the Tennessee Titoons.

1185
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: We mentioned it earlier. We've seen the stats on on

1186
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford against winning teams. Kirk Cousins similar one. Winning percentage.

1187
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: Wolf can't beat good teams. Winning percentage terrible. You know

1188
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: who can be good teams. Marcus Mariotta has the third

1189
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: best record of any quarterback against teams with a running

1190
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: record since the two thousand fifteen season. Only Big Ben

1191
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady have better records. So how how can

1192
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: they go nine and seven every year? They're not good

1193
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: because he's always hurt, He's inconsistent. You don't know which

1194
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Mario is gonna show up from week to week.

1195
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: He can't beat good teams. We've seen him in the

1196
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: playoffs beat good teams. I mean, alright, so he's I

1197
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he's the one beating them. But does

1198
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: he pass the eye test on any other level of

1199
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: someone you want to build around for the next three

1200
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 1: or four years after what we've seen for the past

1201
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: four during the regular season, I'm not there yet to

1202
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: build it. I would not give him a contract right now,

1203
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: But like I said, he's there are games where he

1204
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: looks the part. He looks like a guy you want

1205
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: to build around, and then the next week he takes

1206
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: eleven sacks against the Ravens. I feel like he could

1207
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: be the third starting quarterback we see yanked for one

1208
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: of After one of these guys getting pulled for a rookie,

1209
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: I just think maybe short there. I guess my my

1210
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: counter West is and you know how I feel. But

1211
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: at what point is that just who he is and

1212
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 1: it's not waiting for it all to click. Maybe he's

1213
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: just an inconsistent, injury prone passer. Fish is brilliance but

1214
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: also driving nuts. I agree with you. I think that

1215
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: is who he is, except who they have to evaluate.

1216
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: That sounds exactly, by the way, like Ryan Tannehill. If anything,

1217
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: I think he's been kind of consistent. He's been kind

1218
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: of middle of the road. He I haven't seen the flash,

1219
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: but not from game to game. Consistently inconsistent, I guess.

1220
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean he hasn't been surrounded by great talent. I'll

1221
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: buy that they've They've rotated coordinators like, there's a lot

1222
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: of factors. That's why he's gonna need to get help.

1223
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is worth questioning, especially with

1224
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: Luan out for four weeks. Saffold struggled a little bit

1225
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: in the preseason. Rabel's got to cook up some some

1226
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: stuff with with his defense here make them a little

1227
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: more noteworthy. The Houston Texans with Andrew Luck out the door.

1228
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: The a f C South is the Shawn Watson's playground. No,

1229
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: it's his property. Everyone else's renters, and all you doubters,

1230
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: all you Bill O'Brien haters, jealous of his hands on

1231
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: leadership and dimpled chin have to deal with it. Deshaun

1232
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: Watson is a in savage in that pocket, and he'll

1233
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: skip back to the playoffs with his friends Nuke and

1234
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: JJ and maybe Jadeveon. Sorry, you're all wrong. Not even

1235
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: throwing it up for a question, that's a statement. Well,

1236
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: so hey, that's why you've liked the Texans last five

1237
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: years because his dimple. It makes sense now, I didn't

1238
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: really like ever totally said you guys are jealous of it.

1239
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know if I've ever thought

1240
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: about you mean, the dimple right in the middle of

1241
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: his little chin there. Absolutely, it's very strong, not dominating.

1242
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't really understand your Texans bit. I think I

1243
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: need somebody to explain it to me. It's not a bit.

1244
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: It's like I get behind a team that that was

1245
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: really good last year. It's kind of like the whole

1246
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: Bob cost this thing Mark used to like him during

1247
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: the prime of his career. That prime is long over.

1248
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: There's nothing more to understand or leaving the team. I

1249
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: don't understand what's so hard due to see about that? Now?

1250
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: I think, I think Watson has the potential to be

1251
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: one of the top five quarterbacks in football, and he

1252
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: showed lashes of that last year. And I look on

1253
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: why not think that he could take this division over

1254
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future? And it almost found like O'Brien

1255
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: coached with handcuffs on because he didn't want to put

1256
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: Watson uh at risk in the running game or being

1257
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: nearly as creative as he was during Watson's rookie year.

1258
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: And I think you'll see a little bit more of that. Listen, West,

1259
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: all the things you point out, whether it's the offensive

1260
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: line or maybe the lack of depth on both sides,

1261
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: all fair. The running game doesn't drive you crazy, uh,

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't think this division is

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: flawless by any means. Secondary looks if you put this

1264
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: t same team in the a f C or a

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: f C North, for instance, I want to be as excited.

1266
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: I think their offensive line gets eaten up. We could

1267
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: just tact and Carrie Hyder looked like the stee curtain last.

1268
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: A lot of teams have offensive line struggles. Uh not.

1269
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: All teams have a coaching staff and a quarterback that

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: can overcome it. Just wait, I'm not sure they have

1271
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: the coaching staff that can overcome Just wait. Moving on. Oh,

1272
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna look so bad on that one,

1273
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: cults Greg Rosenthal. I can't wait, right, whatever, you know,

1274
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't give the Coach of the Year last year

1275
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: to Frank Reich. He just lost out to it to Mattneggie.

1276
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: How about he gets it this year in his version

1277
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: of Chuck Strong. I don't know, Jacoby Strong. Whatever it is,

1278
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna rally, and I think it's because Ricky Holidays.

1279
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: You know his favorite fantasy pick, t Y Hilton. It's

1280
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: still gonna be a monster. Don't worry that you lost

1281
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: and luck Yeah, yes, yes, here's the thing. Hilton was

1282
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: catching passes from in camp and mentioned that he had

1283
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: caught twenty nine thirty targets percent throws a beautiful deep

1284
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: ball that is unquestionable. What do you mean? What am

1285
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I doing? Andrew Luck to t Y Hilton? How was

1286
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: I supposed to know? How it is a little aggressive?

1287
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: He was walking with a limb for the past six months.

1288
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in on these cults after watching like uh,

1289
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: just rally the troops, and I think there's a lot

1290
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: to like, especially offensively. Uh. And I think Prissette can

1291
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: keep the train moving. Um. Hilton, by the way, kind

1292
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: of disappeared off the radar when he had extended play

1293
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: with Jake Briskets Slice two years. That team was a disaster.

1294
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: Well you know, and you know, Dan, you're your little

1295
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: Texans with all the one thing about them is that

1296
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: about it? Constant, constant like disorganization, chaos going on upstairs

1297
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: between the coaching staff. Every eight months they're firing a GM.

1298
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: The cults are tight. Is a fist GM coach, quarterback,

1299
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: entire roster, They're all on the market. Were only two

1300
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: of thirty prognosticators to pick them. I stuck with it, baby,

1301
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: mainly to sink it to Danny. See what happened in

1302
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: your feelings on this culture in our logic, our logical minds.

1303
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: They even talk about rock gyas in, there's a defensive rookie,

1304
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: theyr underdog. You couldn't even win the division with luck

1305
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: last year, Jess, You're gonna win it without it? What

1306
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: happened in the playoffs? What happened in the playoffs? When

1307
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: it matters? There's some serious AFC South. You know what,

1308
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: it's America's division. This is the podcast right here. Jaguars Jaguars.

1309
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: If you're John d Filippo and you're angling for a

1310
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: comeback after being fired less than a year ago in Minnesota,

1311
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: all right, you got your boy Foles, but what's about him?

1312
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: What's around Ubond beside Leonard four Nett. I'm a little concerned.

1313
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: You don't have zach Ertz and Dallas Goddard anymore a

1314
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: tight end. You've got Jeff Swain, James O'Shaughnessy sounds like

1315
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 1: an Irish harp duo and rookie Josh Oliver who's missed

1316
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: the entire preseason. No Jaguars receiver a cross state hundred

1317
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: yards a year ago. And if Fulls goes down, the

1318
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: backup is a human named Gardner Minshew. Should d Filippo

1319
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: be d filipping out. Yes, this offensive line might be

1320
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: worse than the Texans offensive line well done. This offensive

1321
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: line could undermine the entire team this year. And there

1322
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: is one receiver who looks intriguing. D Filippo has said

1323
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: that D. D. Westbrook is the best route runner he's

1324
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: ever been around, including Stefon Diggs and Adam Feeland, which

1325
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: is high praise. D Filippo is predicting a huge breakout

1326
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: year for D. D. Westbrook. It was interesting they gave

1327
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: Bowls a ton of money and said here fix it.

1328
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: Here starts sixteen games, which you've never done. Yeah, and

1329
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: it's it might be a big ask when you factor

1330
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: in what they've surrounded him with. That that's fair. You

1331
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: need the defense to be next level special, not they

1332
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: need to even better than they were a year ago,

1333
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: which was very good. By the way, they should be

1334
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: better than you know, they were fifth or six I

1335
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: think in defensive d v O A last year. They

1336
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: were one of the best defenses of the decade the

1337
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: year before, and they have a lot of those players back.

1338
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: You add Josh Allen and I mean, do you got

1339
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: to be a top two or three defense? And if

1340
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: you give Nick Foles that then I think you got

1341
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: a good they didn't have nearly as many turnovers last year,

1342
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: but that it's hard to judge any of that year

1343
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: to year um if they kind of regress to the mean, Yeah,

1344
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Calais Campbell, Darius Miles, Jack Jalen Ramsey. I mean,

1345
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean you get to hold teams to fourteen points

1346
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: week after week. That's it's a tall order in this league.

1347
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm not as worried about the receivers. I've always thought

1348
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: Chris Conley could do more than he has. I mean,

1349
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: it's it's asking. Everybody always thinks that about Chris Conley.

1350
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: Let's close it out with the a f C West.

1351
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: Uh Does John Gruden believe in his quarterback? Do the

1352
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: Raiders believe in the quarterback? I've been watching Hard Knocks

1353
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: for four weeks attempting to gauge cars influences place on

1354
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: this team. I got nothing. I've seen moments that caused

1355
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: me to speculate that Car doesn't have this team, including

1356
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: the most recent episode when he tried to talk to

1357
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver about a run a running route. Who

1358
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: here will be surprised when rap She's was reporting in

1359
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: October that Antonio Brown is unhappy with the quarterback play,

1360
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: and if that happens, who are the team's gonna have

1361
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: qb ones back? See, I don't think I thought you

1362
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 1: wrote this very well and you're right up that there's

1363
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: just this sort of unidentifiable mismatched between Gruden's personality and Cars,

1364
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: which we've seen, and it makes you kind of uncomfortable

1365
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: when you're watching it because not natural the way that

1366
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: community because Car, I don't anyone got blocked on Twitter,

1367
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: but what's But here's my thing. I think Car seems

1368
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: like a totally stand up, awesome dude and everything that

1369
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: he says he is he is. But my issue a

1370
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: little bit is that he's not Jeff George where there's

1371
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: all these people thinking he's some sort of a hole.

1372
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: He just the culture of that team and him and

1373
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: the coach, there's something not quite there and that is

1374
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: a concern. Knock on. What if you're with me, who

1375
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: does he have chemistry with on that team? Keelan Dawson,

1376
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, to answer your question, I will

1377
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: not be surprised if Antonio Brown is miffed at there.

1378
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: In fact, I'll be surprised if he's not miffed at

1379
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: him by the Yeah, I'm excited to watch their offense.

1380
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: So I think they got so much talent, and I

1381
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: think Car is good enough if they protect I'm not

1382
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: a huge Yeah, I don't think Car is gonna be

1383
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, but there's so much around him,

1384
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: and I think Gruden will have a good season. I'm

1385
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: not that worried about the past. Yeah. I think that's

1386
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: important to point out too, Not just because I don't

1387
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: want to get locked again, is that I don't think

1388
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is an untalented quarterback. I might like him

1389
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more than others, but um, it's just

1390
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: more a feel thing based on watching a reality docuseries.

1391
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean he got beaten US in those past few years.

1392
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean he played, He's playing through a lot of injuries.

1393
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: They have upgraded their talent, though. I mean it's significant.

1394
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: How much better this roster is Mayock. This draft class

1395
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: looks pretty good. The free agent class with the Marcus Joyner.

1396
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: I know we don't love on this's perfect. I think

1397
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: he'll help there at their better I don't believe Josh

1398
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: Jacobs has been able to sit out all of hard knocks.

1399
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: Here we go Kanvas City Chiefs Mark Sessler, I'm gonna

1400
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: read the blurby, offered NFL dot Com about who's gonna

1401
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: win this division. The Chiefs returned their entire offensive corps

1402
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: with added weapons, and Nicole Hardman and Darwin Thompson football heads. Oh, Erica,

1403
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: you're I'm like, I actually I actually defend you before

1404
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: the show, and that's what I get. You're You've islands

1405
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Greg's Mike and done that to me twice. You're making

1406
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: no friends in this room. And I also imagine Dan

1407
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: is probably take a look at my laptop and you apologize.

1408
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to see what's on your laptop. Hr Mite. Sorry,

1409
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: those are the rules, Mark Later, Well, sorry to chiefs Man.

1410
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: That's it. We're not talking about the Chiefs. Was like

1411
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: the rules or not. I thought that it was only

1412
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: one team I thought about to to talk about in

1413
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: weeks seven team when they win the division. That was

1414
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: this guy of like God, you say, it's my world

1415
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: die quickly? Do you want to finish your blurb? Not really? No,

1416
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: I think that I'm not gonna try that again, because

1417
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: you're right, it wasn't the rules. No good to NFL

1418
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: dot Com and read it's on the pick section. Their

1419
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: defense has got to be a traffic There's a lot

1420
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: to like the I think they're the favorites. They're the

1421
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: favor They're the favorites on the Denver Broncos Chris Westling, Sorry,

1422
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: Chiefs fans. There's an article this week uh by John

1423
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: Kim of ESPN dot com by bub, a Redskins beat writer,

1424
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: interviewed Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, and Matt Lafleur, who were

1425
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: on the old Shanahan coaching staff, and he asked all

1426
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: three of them, who's the toughest defensive coordinator to prepare against?

1427
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: And they all said Vick Foncio, every single one of

1428
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: them immediately. Vic Fongio is the toughest. Hey, you look

1429
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: at Bradley Chubb and Von Miller, who are already the

1430
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: most productive sack duo last year. Chubb his reasonable to

1431
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: expect he's gonna be even better this year. Shelby Harris,

1432
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: a guy who I loved last year, made big play

1433
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: after big play. To me, looks like he can be

1434
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: in a Keem Hicks type of guy under Faggio. Maybe

1435
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: Justin Simmons or safety who's a playmaker can be in

1436
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson type of guy. If Peyton Manning can go

1437
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl washed up with a great Denver

1438
01:10:51,760 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: Brock defense, with this defense, Piston, well, there's not been

1439
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: the early season surprise in the NFL. I think if

1440
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: you want to make an argument that the Cults fall

1441
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: down a step, that there's teams that are knocking on

1442
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: the door to take a team out in the a

1443
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: f C and the wild card race, Denver fits the bill.

1444
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of There's a lot to like

1445
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: on Deef. It fits the mold of how they got

1446
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: their last time. I think their floor is a little higher,

1447
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: to your point than people think Chubb and Miller is.

1448
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: It could be an absolutely insane Chubb got a couple

1449
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: of votes for Defensive Player of the Year and are

1450
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: just because of how good he's looked in the preseason.

1451
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: That that alone with Foia forget it. Well, if you

1452
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: remember when everybody was going nuts about Jimmy Garoppolo and

1453
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: the preseason game going over six with no yards, nobody

1454
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: noticed that it was the Broncos that were absolutely wreaking

1455
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: havoc with Chubb leading the way, uh causing two turnovers. Yeah,

1456
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: and in fact in Faccio and all their skill talent,

1457
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: you know, the offense. If you want to believe in

1458
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, that's one thing, and I suggest you don't.

1459
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: But the d do not doubt. I don't know if

1460
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,919
Speaker 1: i'd say all their skill talent, but they Okay, finally

1461
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: close it out, Greg, The Los Angeles Superchargers proved me wrong.

1462
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, you know you've been proving people wrong. You've

1463
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: been overcoming a bad running game and offensive line for

1464
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: almost your entire career. Uh, Thomas, until last year, they

1465
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: had literally below average for a decade straight after after

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Speaker 1: Thomas not happy with you right now? No, Uh, you

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: got who is it? Trent Scott? Trevor Scott at left tackle?

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01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: You got Sam at right tackle? It it looks it

1469
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: looks like a disaster. You play in eight games essentially

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: on the road. Everyone, I've been on their corner forever,

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: and I feel I feel like I'm giving up. But

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is just such a such a joy to

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: watch that he's proven people wrong throughout his career, like

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01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: he's overcome a lot. I think it's gonna be like

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: another one. I think he's feeling that weight on his

1476
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: back proved me wrong, because I this looks like a

1477
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: team where the bottom could fall out and you can

1478
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: go from twelve and war to seven and nine something.

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01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you've somehow made both arguments there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where do you? Where are you coming down on this?

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01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm I want him to prove me wrong, But I

1482
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: think this is a team set to fall. You hear

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: you hear coaches talk about Philip Rivers as a absolute

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: mastermind when it comes to pass protection and meet him

1485
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: with the offensive lineman for hours each week to sort

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,440
Speaker 1: it all out. And he's great at the line of scrimmage.

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: But we've seen Philip Rivers have seasons ruined by bad

1488
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: offensive lines and for that team, including the end of

1489
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: the most promising season he had in almost a decade.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they their season was ended. They were miserably

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: miserable offensively in that game against Lamar Jackson. They didn't

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01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: have any more yards in the Ravens, and they were

1493
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: terrible against the Patriot. And would you be shocked if

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: this was a top seven defense? Though, no team, it's

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: a really it's still a talented team, so they have

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: a chance. It's just that sort of their Achilles. They

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01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: got um run over on defense and they're mostly recent

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: preseason game. Um, I don't know what to take out

1499
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: of at but also what is Darwin James coming back?

1500
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: Not for not for the year. Potentially it could be

1501
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: right up right. You got you have a nice cornerback group,

1502
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: Casey Hayward, Desmond King. Uh. You know, you've got a

1503
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 1: great pair of pass rushers. But I really think the

1504
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: whole you don't have a home field thing, and you're

1505
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of this second second class team right now. It's

1506
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: a drag all right, there you go. We just went

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: around the NFL and sixty three minutes, Mark, I really

1508
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: think we should hear the Chiefs. I mean, they're a favorite.

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: I guess it was sixty We have something inspirational um

1510
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: to play. I just I don't as long as I'm

1511
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: not gonna get you, you're gonna blow me up. I

1512
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: can feel it. I'm gonna okay, because he's gonna lose

1513
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: it if you blow them up. The Chiefs return their

1514
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 1: entire offensive corps with added weapons and me Cole Hardman

1515
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: and Darwin Thompson, football heads close to the team, believe

1516
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has grown even more comfortable in the offense

1517
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: even more comfortable. Fill my belly at bath Salts, and

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: I'll pick someone else to win the West somehow. That's

1519
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 1: snuck on nfl dot com, along with like Brian Baldinger's

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: very serious paragraph about another team. I don't know. It's

1521
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: my world. Okay, Erica has now with her little ditty,

1522
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 1: eaten up nine and a half minutes of our sixty

1523
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: three minutes around the league. There we go. I like that. Littles,

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01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: the Quiet Star, the Mailman, the Old Boss, and Ricky

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Speaker 1: Hollywood behind the Glass Sandwich Props. Friday