WEBVTT - The Armstrong & Getty 2020 CA Voter's Guide:  Featuring Gary Dietrich

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<v Speaker 1>our part. Hey, I got a proposition for you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you how to vote on the props. It's

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<v Speaker 1>A and G extra large because four hours simply isn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>This is armstrong and getty extra large. Just this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of California specific. We have this weird system in California

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<v Speaker 1>where the too much democracy is the problem. Voters get

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<v Speaker 1>to be misled by lying ads and go out and

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<v Speaker 1>change laws with just a majority rule, change dang old constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>and you end up with things like the freaking multi

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<v Speaker 1>gazillion dollar bullet train that will never happen anybody's lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope this is interesting. It maybe as a

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<v Speaker 1>warning to your state to never do this. Yeah, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>Dietrich joins as scary as nonpartisan political analysts. Follow them

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<v Speaker 1>on the Twitter at Gary Dietrich. Uh if if you

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<v Speaker 1>are are on the Twitter, Hello Gary, how are you? Sir? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good guys, And you know what it is. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe how many times we've done this, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>some real big measures on this year's California November. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>two things I think for people to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>from a national perspective, which I know you guys will appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>One is so many times and Prop thirteen is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous in this than legendary tax limitation measure,

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<v Speaker 1>which now we're gonna find one on this ballot, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to modify that. But those measures in California often often

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<v Speaker 1>have major skill over effects in other states down the

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<v Speaker 1>road who look at adopting knows as well. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one caveat to you know what, people pertibiously screwed up

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<v Speaker 1>California proposition process. There have been times when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayers and citizenry at large have used the proposition

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<v Speaker 1>process to rein in no actions by their own legislature

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<v Speaker 1>or the governor that they Yeah, that's true. Gary, Although

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Joe getty unifying theory, which I'll write in

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<v Speaker 1>a book someday, but I won't because I'm an underachiever.

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<v Speaker 1>Um is that in any open democratic process, those who

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<v Speaker 1>would gain the system get better and better at doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that they pervert the system almost beyond usefulness.

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<v Speaker 1>And while absolutely there are actually a couple of props,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in favor of just a couple. Um. Mostly it's

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<v Speaker 1>big money, powerful interests get the get all the signatures.

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<v Speaker 1>They they have rosy sounding names for these props and

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<v Speaker 1>great sounding descriptions, and then the descriptions and the voter

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<v Speaker 1>guides are often distorted. And wisely spend money on radio advertising.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that that part is very smart, But then the

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State often prints misleading descriptions of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gotten perverted. To Jack's plank. Though they helped

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<v Speaker 1>keep angy on, youre but exactly amen to that, and

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<v Speaker 1>anything beyond that is really, you know, trivial. Alright, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real quick back into that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important people to know. You guys really make out

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<v Speaker 1>to any points in a variety ways, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important for people to know and they probably

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<v Speaker 1>get this intuitively this year in California loan on this

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<v Speaker 1>one election cycle, hundreds hundreds and hundreds of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars will be spent ping against our propositions. It really

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal. Yeah, okay, So here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>have in mind, because there are a couple to three

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<v Speaker 1>that we probably ought to discuss so people understand what

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<v Speaker 1>they are. But the vast majority folks have emailed us,

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted at us, etcetera. They just want to know how

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. So we're gonna have Gary do a little

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<v Speaker 1>analysis for us on the line. Partisan analysis. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean how to get to the poll or how to

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<v Speaker 1>fill out their form, how to vote, No, no, how

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<v Speaker 1>they ought to vote on the propositions what they're should be.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll have Gary do a little nonpartisan stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll get rid of him and I will just

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<v Speaker 1>freaking tell you how to vote. We'll tell you what's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the right decision, the bone headed decision exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a good American or a communist? Yes? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Well, I'm sure I'm sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>will know that everything that comes out of your mouth, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>We absolutely, in the veracity will be on question. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I have two sources that I think are really going

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<v Speaker 1>to be helpful to people, and given the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the end uh, they don't want them involved with directly,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are nonpartisan, nonprofit sources that I think will

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<v Speaker 1>be valuable for people who want to drill down further

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<v Speaker 1>beyond their you know, ballot measure pamphlet they get from

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<v Speaker 1>the stage. So whenever you want to show those, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you go ahead? People can jump them round

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<v Speaker 1>and down right now, although you're wasting your time just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell them how to vote, but go ahead, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know if any way you know question Joe's you know, authority, integrety.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you want to do. This is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good one cal matters dot org. I love cal

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<v Speaker 1>matters dot org. And here's the one I like about

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<v Speaker 1>this one, guys. It doesn't just have stuff on the

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<v Speaker 1>property positions, but it also has really good background ers

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<v Speaker 1>on the California House and legislative races, which is tough

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<v Speaker 1>to find in a lot of places. There's one for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The other onn is e A Choices dot organ. You

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<v Speaker 1>know it's both of these. Your daughter, so they're not

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<v Speaker 1>for profit enterities. See a choices dot org. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really like this one because it also includes two other

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<v Speaker 1>really important things. One for all the larger counties in California,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got your county ballot measures, which can be very significant,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, in their own rights. There in all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of other things. The other things got which is

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<v Speaker 1>really outstanding, and it said the most extensive one of

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<v Speaker 1>these lists I've ever seen is the folks who are

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<v Speaker 1>for and against. So they'll take a whole list of nonprofits,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole list of other energies, unions, et cetera, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will go through each one of these and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see a massive grid of how each entity is stands

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<v Speaker 1>on each proposition. And that can be very very valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're for against you really don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective on a certain group organization, this tell you

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<v Speaker 1>where they stand on every ballot measure. Yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 1>also tell you. I was on ballot pedia dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a dot com. I found that to

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<v Speaker 1>be very informative. All right, Gary, why don't you pick

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<v Speaker 1>pick one or two that you you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about you think people ought to understand. Yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the two big ones, guys, if we're really to

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<v Speaker 1>pick out the two that have gotten the most attention

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<v Speaker 1>and are probably have the most long range impact, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with Prop fifteen the tax The Prop thirteen modification measure, though,

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<v Speaker 1>would significantly increase taxes on business. Now Prop thir team

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<v Speaker 1>is the legendary kindly sticking it to the millionaires and

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires who run the business is finally gone. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>that includes you, Jack, Okay, So you know the the

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<v Speaker 1>important thing is for people who remember and this this

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. Way back in Jerry Brown Euro one, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the late seventies or eight, Prop their team came

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<v Speaker 1>along that limited the ability of government to increase property

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on an annual basis a maximum increased per year

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<v Speaker 1>of two percent, regardless of how much the property value increased.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, in a place that California in most

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<v Speaker 1>places put me every place in the state of California

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<v Speaker 1>property value has gone up way more than two percent

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<v Speaker 1>on an annual life basis. So this limited for both

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<v Speaker 1>homeowners and businesses, the annual increase in your property taxes

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<v Speaker 1>two percent. Now they has been talking about, guys, since

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<v Speaker 1>I came to the capitol over thirty years ago two

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<v Speaker 1>so called go to a split roll split roll tax

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<v Speaker 1>or hear that term a lot. It simply means that

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<v Speaker 1>we would treat homeowners the same as they all have

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<v Speaker 1>been has been since popped their team. But it would

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<v Speaker 1>move business owners off of that protected status um to

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<v Speaker 1>increase their taxes more substantially on the value of the

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<v Speaker 1>properties increase itself. Any size business like including a mom

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<v Speaker 1>and pop like coffee shop or something. Any business depends

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<v Speaker 1>if they own it the property. Yeah, that's a really

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Jack. And this is the limit that is

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<v Speaker 1>the one the part of it it's really debated about.

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<v Speaker 1>It limits the increase the change in prop their team

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<v Speaker 1>for businesses to those business owners that hold three million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or more in commercial property. So the idea is

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<v Speaker 1>that real small business owners like you're talking about, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got your little, you know, little tiny shot

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<v Speaker 1>that kind, if they're doing coffee, it would not change

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<v Speaker 1>those people's property taxes. However, and this is really an

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<v Speaker 1>important caveat if your business, like the one you're talking about, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>is a fantasy average strip mall, right, and that strip

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<v Speaker 1>mall is valued at more than three million dollars, which

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<v Speaker 1>many many of them lawn California. Then, of course your

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<v Speaker 1>landlord who you rent or lease your coffee shop from,

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<v Speaker 1>is just going to eat the increase in taxes because

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<v Speaker 1>they're so wealthy, and they're gonna leave the rent the

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<v Speaker 1>same for all the tenants in the building. I understand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, and people. If he didn't get sarcasm,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. So here here's the deal. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really important because it does mean that, you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>small businesses honestly are leasing or renting their their establishments.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not buying them. And so for those who

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<v Speaker 1>are in those kinds of entities I just talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, their rents almost assuredly as you're alluding to,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack would go up. Yeah, getting to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the because you're staying nonpartisan, getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>US telling you how to vote. Part. That's the great

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<v Speaker 1>lie in all this is the claiming that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to have any effect on that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>little mom and pop shop they're running for somebody there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going No, of course, the guy who owns

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<v Speaker 1>the man or woman who owns the giant building that's

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<v Speaker 1>running out to the skateboard shop, the coffee shop, the

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<v Speaker 1>yogurt place. Their taxes went up a lot. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to increase their rent obvious to cover their not

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<v Speaker 1>it would be insane, insane, insane to hammer California business

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<v Speaker 1>with a massive tax increase right now in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID. It would be practically suicidal. Uh. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>make it a really important point there, Joe, Because the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about propositions that are very interesting is some the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of them is often as important as the content

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And so this of course was qualified for

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot long before any of us ever knew the

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<v Speaker 1>word COVID, and it was placed on the November ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's often the case, it is very often the

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<v Speaker 1>case that measures that they were going to increase taxes

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. You know, people wait if it's

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<v Speaker 1>an over session, they don't. They frequently, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>will wait for these kind of things for general election

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<v Speaker 1>cycles rather than are off your every two for your

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<v Speaker 1>grouping a toial election cycles, because generally higher turnout, right,

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<v Speaker 1>much higher turnout for general lessons, and so people will

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<v Speaker 1>time the propositions accordingly. In any of that, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line it's guestimated that somewhere somewhere between ten and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve billion dollars would be the annual tax increase revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>The stated California because California doesn't take enough tax. Sorry, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>pick another prop. Alright, so let's go to Prop twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two real quick, because this is the gig economy prop. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Uber Lift Door Dash. This one really does alongless.

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<v Speaker 1>This team, I believe, had very national implications. And the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line is this. Whenever you call an uber or

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<v Speaker 1>lift driver, you are calling an independent contractor. They are

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<v Speaker 1>not an employee of the entity. They run their own

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<v Speaker 1>car shop. I mean they contract with that employer. They

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<v Speaker 1>get paid so much per ride or delivery, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it works. There's no benefits or or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>workers comp or things like that. Well, the state of

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<v Speaker 1>California took it upon itself to say, no, like many men,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not fair. He's driving your Uber and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>giving him health insurance is not fair man. So yes, Jack, So,

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened is they qualified them through legislation passed

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<v Speaker 1>by the state legisctature signed by Governor Newsom to make

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<v Speaker 1>all these people employees. So what did Luber and Lift do. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we are not going to follow the law.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna file lawsuits on this, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to put a major measure on the

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<v Speaker 1>November ballot, basically a referendum on that law that would

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<v Speaker 1>do two things. Guys, this important. It would repeal that

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<v Speaker 1>in wid those independent contracts would not be required to

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<v Speaker 1>be employees. And it also puts in place some things

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<v Speaker 1>that would protect these independent contractors and provide for them

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<v Speaker 1>in new ways, like guarantee a certain minimum wage when

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually driving, not just waiting for give them some

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<v Speaker 1>subsidies for healthcare, give them workers. Are they So? How

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<v Speaker 1>is this how is this one worded? If I vote yes,

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<v Speaker 1>am I voting to continue to have UBER in the state?

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah? What what you're continue? What you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>voting yes, Jack, what you can what you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>saying these drivers can continue to be independent contracts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think national implications for California on

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<v Speaker 1>this one, aside from the fact that it's ridiculous from

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<v Speaker 1>the standpoint of an individual driver getting to make that

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<v Speaker 1>decision with an employer and all that. Right, their adults

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<v Speaker 1>they can make that California will be the laughing stock

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<v Speaker 1>of the country when people start coming to California on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation or for conferences or for business and they land

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport and they have to take a freaking

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<v Speaker 1>old timy yellow cab because there's no Uber. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the country will be aware. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you went to California. I know. Isn't it terrible how

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have Uber there anymore? Or door dash so

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get anything to eat at the hotel. It

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<v Speaker 1>sucks well. Gary Dietrich is a non partisan political analysts.

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<v Speaker 1>You can follow him on Twitter at Gary Dietrich. Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate the wisdom very much and thanks for turning

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<v Speaker 1>a sound to those websites c Choices dot orgon cal

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<v Speaker 1>Matters dot org. Thanks man, always a pleasure. Thanks. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen any polling on any of these? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>even I know there's a pulling of like the Uber thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The prop twenty two is it's five to one or

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<v Speaker 1>four to one. Uber drivers are in favor of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh my god, yes, I want a flexible joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to drive six hours a week. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing it. I just I never know how informed

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<v Speaker 1>the public is. Like Prop sixteen, the idea of bringing

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<v Speaker 1>back racism to California, where you can determine things based

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<v Speaker 1>on race, I don't know how that's polling, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like to see that. So, um, we'll run through

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<v Speaker 1>these real quickly. If you're in a hurry, I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this. There's a question mark that restores voting

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<v Speaker 1>rights for persons on parole. That's up to you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>what you it's your opinion. I don't have a strong

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<v Speaker 1>opinion on that one. I don't think you ought to

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<v Speaker 1>lose your rights forever because you you make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're on parole. Yeah, how about until you're off

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<v Speaker 1>parole you don't vote. That's fine with me. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>dur in fact, Yeah, that's that's a good point. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's once you're off parole you can vote. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is one yes, and that's twenty two one yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest are no. Most of them are f no.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that in general, if you lean right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a no vote on props. Yeah. A couple of exceptions, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, in general, absolutely true. Yeah, twenty two is

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<v Speaker 1>the only yes because it restores freedom of employment. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of them are tax increases, I mean properly teen

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<v Speaker 1>for instances. It lets children vote if they'll turn eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>in the next general election, lets them vote for primaries

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Seventeen year olds idiotic And you

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<v Speaker 1>know if that one passes, then they lower it to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. And there's the cash bail thing in

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<v Speaker 1>various consumer privacy laws. But they're all extremely problematic, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're often either wolves in sheep's clothing or they have

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<v Speaker 1>a stated purpose and fourteen pages in in the fine

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<v Speaker 1>print is something truly insidious. That's another way it's a

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<v Speaker 1>trojan horse. Is are there more more than one box

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for yes or no? Is there a hell

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<v Speaker 1>no and then half no? Right, I'd rather see my

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<v Speaker 1>sister a warhouse and my brother voting for this proposition. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just a yes and no no. So everything is

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<v Speaker 1>no except twenty two. Vote in good health, my friends,

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