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Speaker 1: Time to get back to work. Welcome bird Gang. On

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Speaker 1: today's show, Zach Kershman joins me, the break is over,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I was a good break. The Cardinals got

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Speaker 1: a lot of help from several teams. We'll go over

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Speaker 1: how things look standing wise after week eleven, but first

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Speaker 1: week twelve begins with a bonus practice and a familiar

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Speaker 1: face returning at Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight twenty and

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Speaker 1: it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Po to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: He's a a ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: Well how about this? We went into the bye week?

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Speaker 1: Was Zach Gershman. We come out of the bye week?

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Speaker 1: Was Zach Gershman here on Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone was just trying to take advantage of

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Speaker 3: the rest, But you and I no days off.

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Speaker 1: We were actually here every single day.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm just joking.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't go that far too much. But we

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Speaker 1: were here, but there was a break. Was your time

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Speaker 1: away because again, as head coach Jonathan Gannon said, don't

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Speaker 1: detach from the game. That was the message to his players.

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Speaker 1: I did kind of detach from everything. From everything, well

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Speaker 1: not everything. How literal are we going to go here?

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't watch a ton of football. How

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Speaker 1: about that, I watched the games that a ton of

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Speaker 1: NFL football. You told me. I thought you said you

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Speaker 1: watched it. I probably watched more college than the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's very fair. That's very fair.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like there are a lot of good matchups

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Speaker 3: Right now, the replay of the Chargers Bengals games going on,

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Speaker 3: which was a really good Sunday night football game to

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Speaker 3: to kick off this week twelve that we're about to start.

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Speaker 3: So hey, look, it was a goodbye We're refreshed, we're rejuvenated,

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Speaker 3: we're ready to go for some Cardinals football.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into momentarily on why this was such

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Speaker 1: a good bye week for the Cardinals and how they

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Speaker 1: did win on Sunday despite not playing. But well, let's

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Speaker 1: get to what happened at the start of the week

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Speaker 1: here on Monday, a bonus practice JG prior to practice. Quote,

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Speaker 1: we're practicing today like it's a competitive training camp practice

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Speaker 1: end quote. So this was I think a needed practice

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Speaker 1: before you really focus on your upcoming opponent, which this

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Speaker 3: And I think that's a good sign because when you

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Speaker 3: And that's something when I asked Jonathan Gannon, how beneficial

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Speaker 3: And we use the term detach, well, that's something on

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon said that he does want his players to do.

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Speaker 3: A lot seeing him warm up on Monday reminded me

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Speaker 3: Also, with it being a bonus practice, there's not going

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Speaker 3: they are always the last team to send in their

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Speaker 3: we'll see Darius Robinson's name on it, because you're going

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Speaker 3: It's automatically a better sign than what you've seen in

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens Tuesday, how Darius feels after

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Speaker 1: On the subjects of the bye week, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Cardinals made a nine out of ten times to reach

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Speaker 1: It is a very tight race in the NFC Wes

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Speaker 1: As far as your perennial power in the NFC Wes.

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Speaker 1: In case she might have missed it. Over the weekend again,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I could be mistaken, but I think

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Speaker 3: all the teams, the heavy hitters that the forty nine

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Speaker 3: played that part of their schedule is already over. If

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: Sounds about right.

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Speaker 3: So with that being said, the Cardinals had one of

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Speaker 3: the toughest strength of schedules in the beginning half of

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Speaker 3: the season. You go into this by the first portion,

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Speaker 3: as Michael Wilson called it, with a six and four record.

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Speaker 3: That's huge because you know that you're going to be

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Speaker 3: playing the Carolina Panthers, you know they're gonna be playing

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Speaker 3: the New England Patriots, and then you and your divisional

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Speaker 3: opponents with a game against Minnesota mix in there as well.

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Speaker 3: If if you're looking at it on paper, the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: should have nine ten wins, but they also have to

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Speaker 3: get their job done so that they could that that's

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Speaker 3: not that's like the four basically that they're able to

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Speaker 3: go above and beyond that.

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Speaker 1: Now, the only thing that didn't quite go right for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals this weekend is that the Rams went on

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Speaker 1: the road and beat the Patriots twenty eight to twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They have now won four of their last five. Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford four touchdown passes, cut Puka Nakula each had over

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Speaker 1: one hundred receiving yards. They look like they are getting

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Speaker 1: better and better as the season progresses. You'd all say

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Speaker 1: this their road This week they host the Eagles, and

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Speaker 1: am I allowed to say fly Eagles fly Zach Gershman

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two, Fly Eagles fly, go Birds.

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Speaker 1: I mean this week, this is now where you have

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Speaker 1: rooting interests in other teams as long as it helps

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Speaker 1: the Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Cardon one hundred percent, that's gonna be a Sunday night

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Speaker 3: football game. Eagles going cross country. You hope that they're

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Speaker 3: able to get the job done well, I have this

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Speaker 3: big smile on my smile.

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Speaker 1: My smile as at a minimum, now, this would be

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Speaker 1: a huge disappointment, Zach. If your Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Could not Philadelphia Eagles couldn't do the airs on a

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Speaker 3: Cardinals a solid here my childhood Philadelphia Eagles, he could

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Speaker 3: say that. Look, I hope that that Jalen Hurts is

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Speaker 3: able to get it done and that they're able to

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Speaker 3: put up the performance because with the division being as

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Speaker 3: close and momentum being a thing in this division, if

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Speaker 3: a game like that is able to occur and the

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles are able to come away with the win,

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Speaker 3: that starts to knock down all the pro that they

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Speaker 3: have made that the Los Angeles Rams have made. If

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Speaker 3: you're able to knock them down a couple of pegs,

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Speaker 3: go Birds?

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Speaker 1: Why not? And I don't think you're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: team Cardinals whatever that is going to have a two

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Speaker 1: to three game lead in the division, because why not.

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Speaker 1: I just because one, I think They're all gonna beat

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Speaker 1: each other up to the point where not one team

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Speaker 1: is going to be able to run away with it. Now,

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Speaker 1: would it be great if the Cardinals all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden went six to one and said, those last two

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Speaker 1: games against the Rams and forty nine Ers don't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening because it's so jumbled

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Speaker 1: up right now, that the fact that the Cardinals with

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Speaker 1: six wins lead their division, but more importantly, they're undefeated

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Speaker 1: against the NFC West opponents, and I think that right

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Speaker 1: there might be the leg up that they have on

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Speaker 1: everyone else.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I'm very curious. And then before the season began,

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Speaker 3: I asked Jonathan Gannon in his first year, what did

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Speaker 3: he learn about the NFC West, and he said, I

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Speaker 3: learned that there are three teams that are better than us,

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Speaker 3: because the Cardinal were not able to have a division win.

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Speaker 3: I'm planning after Week eighteen when they played the San

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Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers, hoping that they make the playoffs

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Speaker 3: to as johnth again and well, what did you learn

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Speaker 3: about the NFC West in year number two? Because they've

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Speaker 3: seen some really crack the code to figure out how

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Speaker 3: to make the most of these division games. Now it's

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Speaker 3: only been two, it's only been against the Rams in

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Speaker 3: that Week two matchup where they absolutely demolished them, and

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Speaker 3: then in that game and against the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers where they came back and then Chad Ryland

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Speaker 3: has the game winning kick with a little over a

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Speaker 3: minute to go. With that being said, you get to

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Speaker 3: learn a lot about your team. How do you respond

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Speaker 3: after a bye when you know that you're playing the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks two of the next three weeks. How do you

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Speaker 3: do you keep anything hidden so that in your Week

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Speaker 3: fourteen matchup you're able to surprise them a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a very interesting next three weeks

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Speaker 3: for this team.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully this team doesn't overthink things when it comes to

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Speaker 1: our It can't be like two out of three, no, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Let that's what we're here for, is to overthink and

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Speaker 1: overanalyze and really dive into what but just focus on

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Speaker 1: this week Seattle Seahawks. That's the plan. Even though on

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Speaker 1: Monday they're not himself. Jonathan Gan was very which I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised about that he was not and he wasn't didn't

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Speaker 1: sound like he was going to entertain any questions about

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks until Wednesday. He said that he was TV

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Speaker 1: scouting and he saw some of the defensive backs and

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Speaker 1: some of the defensive players that they have and He

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Speaker 1: said that these are all well known names, and maybe

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Speaker 1: that's because he's a head coach of the NFL team

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Speaker 1: and has scouted a lot of these players. Potentially, for

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Speaker 1: one reason or another, they are going to have their

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Speaker 1: hands full. It's a defensive minded head coach over thereon

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, and you know we're able to get out

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Speaker 1: of Seattle because you play him twice a year. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun these last seven games, and we'll take

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Speaker 1: that ride with you berg Gang the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: And Zach is it is good to be back, and

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Speaker 1: it's good to see even though maybe sometimes I don't

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Speaker 1: say it out loud, it's good to see you.

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Speaker 3: After several days off, It's been great to see you.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be great to see you and hopefully

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Speaker 3: no more aard we're here on Friday. We have a

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Speaker 3: better idea if Darius Robinson's gonna play, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a better idea of what Arizona Cardinals team we're

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Speaker 3: expecting to see make the flight to the Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna be the question this week. Will Darius

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Speaker 1: Robinson play or is it a week, maybe two weeks

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Speaker 1: from today, but the bottom line is that Darius Robinson

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Speaker 1: is on the practice field. Will monitor the rest of

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Speaker 1: the way here this week. And on that note, we

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Speaker 1: will put a lid on This edition of Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has

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Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Are, our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher for Zach Gershman, I'm Craig Real Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.