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Speaker 1: videos to the close, like the rapper dood. It looks

426
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: more relatable for the normal person to do it. So

427
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 1: if I'm right here talking about shoot them up music,

428
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: bang bang, I know when I go to these shows, man,

429
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be some guns out here, probably gonna

430
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: be a couple of fights. So I try to watch

431
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: what I said, covering my words and like, because I

432
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: had like a situation that happened like years ago with

433
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: some music at leak, and I said some references about

434
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: some girls but I ain't. But at the same time,

435
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: the songs got leaking, the songs being done, so that

436
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: right there, just put my cap on, like I don't

437
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: even want to go. I gotta camp or making anything.

438
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: So before I get in there, let me make sure

439
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: this makes sense, you know what I'm saying. Let me

440
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: make something giving the right game out. And that's I

441
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: feel like, that's what it's about. The message rappers put

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: out there and the missage you put out there, it's

443
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 1: almost like we put a target on our back. So

444
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 1: what we're gonna put a target ourself. That's because I'm

445
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: gonn put a target on my back for talking about investing,

446
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: talking about saying in school, I don't put a talking

447
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: to my bad telling them not about Jerry, and it's

448
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: just about you know what you're talking about. That creates

449
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: the type of you know, the type of listeners you get,

450
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: your feeling, the type of people you're about, and even

451
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: your fans like I don't know fan and none but

452
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: niggas were gun. I like girls. So if I'm gonna

453
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: be a wrapper to the woman, that's what it's about.

454
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: I figure, I feel you. I'm feeling with your hands.

455
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: So you was gonna say something earlier I was saying.

456
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: I just adding on that he was correct. You know

457
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: this is a fact. Anyone tuned then I noticed a

458
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: huge crowd to come on this platform. Hip hop music

459
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: is the most influential culture in the world, you know

460
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know it take a strong

461
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: it's take a strong and individual to know. Look, I'm

462
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: gonna put all that what I want to get back.

463
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know what I'm saying. Actually, where you're

464
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: going with this and I'm gonna tell you what make

465
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: it so cool is that you're catching on to it

466
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: while you still got your youth. Yeah, yeah, I don't

467
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: want it, don't you don't look authentic? I know, if

468
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: it like it's gonna be harder for me to reach

469
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: the the youth. So like, let me show, like, dude

470
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: that we don't gotta do it that way, we can

471
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: do it this way and be just that successful. You man,

472
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: you you're being a songwriter. You are and I keep

473
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: saying that because you're a wrapper, real dope rapper, but

474
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: your song writing the pin game with melodies and stuff. Dog,

475
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: you could be a hell of them song writer. Dog.

476
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're doing that already, but it's

477
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: something you should probably get into. Dog. If you ain't

478
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: doing it already writing for other people, writing R and

479
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: B and ship, you need to be on that. Dog.

480
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: You see that? Do you see that coming in your future?

481
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: I definitely said coming up through. This's something I've already

482
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: been towing with, you know what I mean because at

483
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: the time, like because at the same time, I record

484
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: so much, so much, and like like got saying that

485
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the songs I record may not fit

486
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: well mentally, but it could fit a different artists or

487
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: R and B Lane or something like that, because like

488
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: I say, I really wanna mind to make sense to

489
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: have to go. It has to go with my story.

490
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: But I'm just such a creative person. I'm creating all times,

491
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: like different type of music, right. I don't want to

492
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: be categorized because I'm an artist, Like not just to rap.

493
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm an artist, Like when the microphone, um, it's my canvas.

494
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: I let my voice be my paint brush. You see

495
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. All I might head giving like you

496
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's on how you were a

497
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: sting man. But I love to create. It's about creating,

498
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and like if I can get some of

499
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: these dopes onto somebody else, like get my paperwork, right,

500
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: Why don't they know I wrote it was good and

501
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: God and God knows some of these negroes needs you know,

502
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: some of them needs you. Y'all here, y'all holl the

503
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: honey ricks for the throwaways because that you probably got

504
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: hit in the ways I gotta hit. So how I

505
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: adam how I had my man to come with your

506
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: pin on your check book. You know what I'm saying,

507
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: because because he up on this game. Now let's pay

508
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: some bills real quick and checking in with our sponsors.

509
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this man, you had some

510
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: amazing opportunities come your way because you was you want

511
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: the help of a run and restart. I'm proud of you, though,

512
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: because you're checking it back off. When did the ricks

513
00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: gang situation come about? M rich gang situation came about? Mmm,

514
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: I would say properly, we're getting fifteen in the fourteen

515
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and don't quote me. But the

516
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: situation came about Man. I probably had met met thor

517
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: six months prior. In the first half Man Fursday, when

518
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: the studio we do get the funk out of my face,

519
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: so I have to get my face. We'll get back

520
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: in the studio the next night. It goes from that night.

521
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: For damn, there was getting the studio during the week

522
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: because the weekend we will both be busy and book.

523
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: So I's going in the studio collaboratly, collaborative, collaborative recording together,

524
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: but still me, me and Thor was never a group.

525
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say you how the group thing came about.

526
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: So it went for us to record that location and

527
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: location the studio got shut down to something. We changed

528
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: location to be and the recording it dark, which was

529
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin Old Studio at the time historic places that

530
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: recording it dark and bird like at this time he

531
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: got ready food of a bird and he's like, man,

532
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: you know want to meet you all. Bring up in Dyo.

533
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: It was a studio. Bird comes like a week later, like, man,

534
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: I love what y'all doing. And we still this recording,

535
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, like we just collectively recording together. I don't

536
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: got no situation with you. Like the way we signed

537
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: with each other. It sounds dope to us. So we're

538
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep recording. Bird being the business man, he got

539
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: like a look, nephew, I just uh, I just winning

540
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: the studio out for three months. You don't gotta worry

541
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 1: about nothing. I'm like cool, cool, So we gottare every

542
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: day now. So as we're up here every day, Bird

543
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: up them, got the tour. What's up that? Said Bird?

544
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: That bird basically living in them on the tub. Yeah,

545
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: you feel me so even to this day. And I'm

546
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna get pack that. So we had the studio recording. Yeah,

547
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: he just like, hey, no, man, we gotta put this out.

548
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: You know how're we gonna put it out? I know

549
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: th sign that. Then I got this six uation with TRG.

550
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: You cash money, you know what I'm saying like this

551
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: like this type of question, like We're just gonna put

552
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: together under risk game. I thought it made since at

553
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: the time, let's do it boom then come out how

554
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: that shi the word this right before streaming, Like music

555
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: hasn't even I was, music hasn't even it's not even

556
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: streaming it it's turning, but it hasn't got there because

557
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I like people telling it's gonna go to streaming, and

558
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I help, You're saying that we put any

559
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: that's how the risk I'm gonna jump back on this

560
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: risk game stuff, but I want to talking about streaming

561
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: real quick. You came in and the game at the

562
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: funny time because it was kind of already phased out

563
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: the CDs, but people were still buying CDs. A little

564
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: something somethingtuons was cracking. You had, you know, you got

565
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: iTunes cracking stringing one like it els because you would

566
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: have made a bank. Oh you'd have made even more

567
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: money probably, and this system is today the streaming. You

568
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: have made a bank. Road dog. Let's go back to

569
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: this risk game situation. I'm surprised y'allo wasn't tied up

570
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: in a bunch of ship behind it like you see

571
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: it because stug slying to Atlantic cash money is but

572
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: universe and keep it man, like I'll tell you like

573
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm young at this time, I like, I end up

574
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: doing this song called cash Money on my second mixtape

575
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: with Waltha was on um so let miss tape. I

576
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: end up doing a song called cash Money. When I

577
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: first did the song, Bird wanted bouy a song. Me like,

578
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying my song. You can hop on this, motherfucker.

579
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So he went from him

580
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: hopping on it. Yeah, I still had met him, and

581
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: then I end up he end up reaching out of

582
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: my dad or something we wanted like because once the

583
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: rich guy thing got out, it came to a point

584
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: were like with Ship, who put the music out? That's

585
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: what everybody asking me, Like, who put the music out?

586
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like Fly like put

587
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: the music out. You know what I'm saying. But at

588
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: the same time, like I wasn't looking for no money

589
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: from Bird because I knew my paperwork was. I know

590
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: once this should get spend anyway. Man, I'm gonna get

591
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: my bill, I know my I know my entertainment nor

592
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: you're going to get with mine. But as far as

593
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: if I already put that ship out and he did

594
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: that ship like he did what he did because I know, Um,

595
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: at one point, I remember it was a big thing.

596
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, the media it was they put out the

597
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: next you left the group, but it was never really

598
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: a group. It was just you, you and your honey

599
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: making songs and Birds out to take interesting. Yeah, Bird

600
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: took interest in it, and I kind of started falling back. Um,

601
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: I started feeling different, like we would do shows. And

602
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: egos played a big role in that, you know what

603
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Um, egos played a bit role in that.

604
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I started falling back. Man, Like I said, uh, we

605
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: you know what my people putting me like broken the

606
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: music guy, Like you're doing shows, but we can't really

607
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: accounting for the music because we didn't put it out.

608
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. The three months, uh you

609
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: know I talked about the records getting leaked. Birds alre

610
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: he paid for the studio, He never paid for one

611
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: day and then so studio leak all the music. So

612
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: the studio leaked all the music. So so Birds really

613
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: much checked y'all in them. The inception and everything was

614
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Gucci and he kind of puts you in the situation

615
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: because them songs being leak that actually derails you for

616
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, then you know those songs, man,

617
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: leave you to reiled me for a little bit. Um,

618
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: the real me a whole lot, Like you said, like

619
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: those songs, and like some of those are from my

620
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: debut album. You know what I'm saying. Like you know,

621
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm not. I treat it all like my babies. But

622
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: that definitely derailed me. Um, But I just I still

623
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: like me me man, y'all. I didn't look at it

624
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: like I wasn't mad because I felt like it was

625
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: still part of my dream. Like, man, I don't want

626
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: to get heard, right, of course, I probably ain't get

627
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: confiscated what I was supposed to get, I know, and

628
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: they ain't jumped me out, and I ain't go to

629
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: bird in my hand. Of course, business is business, and

630
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: I know like it is mother, get played in the world.

631
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid. Yeah, that's what it is. Man.

632
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back man, um, And I'm not gonna

633
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: make this whole interview about that, but shout out the

634
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: bird Man me and bird Man is all right to me, cool,

635
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: but he has a reputation. I'm not handling business. You

636
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. My personal experience with him. My

637
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: one of my artists, last Malone, was signed to cash

638
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: money and you know, shout out to our attorneys. Birg

639
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: did every thing he was supposed to do. Shout, you know,

640
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: shout the stunner. But he does have that reputation, bro,

641
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: because his mind state is just like corporate America. Or

642
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: let him take me the court. Yeah, but I ain't

643
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: paying for ship. They can take me the court because

644
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: he know, let's say our old motherfucker a million dollars, right,

645
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: this is his mindset. Let's see all what motherfucker million dollars.

646
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: He needs that money obviously, and the longer that we

647
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: prolonged that, the longer we go on the court and

648
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: all that ship, he's going the money. You know, he's

649
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to afford to go to court exactly. Yeah,

650
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you what, stunning man, go do

651
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: he gonna call you a man. I got a few

652
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: dollars for you, my nigga. Let that other ship go. Man,

653
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: he get and he gonna get two or three new

654
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: beats from you. Well, you do you get some mother ship.

655
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: So he's definitely a hustle, and it's hard to be

656
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: mad when you meet him, That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah,

657
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't never mad, you know

658
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can't be broke because you

659
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: obviously did the smart thing. And one thing I Maropox

660
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: even more now is that you never see nothing about

661
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: that to not. Oh yeah, for sure for you. You

662
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: never put you never put him out there like, man,

663
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: this is the game paying his bills. Man, he owed

664
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: me this and that you know what I mean. You

665
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: kept a player and kept moving because that's what players do.

666
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: And at the time, I, man, that was like very

667
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: insighting part of my life. For sure. I wasn't having

668
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: no money problems. Still ain't. But of course you want

669
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: what's rightfully do to you, I'd be a fool of

670
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: the life, like I don't. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

671
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: for real, for real, for real, for real, dog. So

672
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: let's come up man to the press, and I'm gonna

673
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: ask you something, man, and please you don't have to

674
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: answer if you want to. Do you ever feel at

675
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: some point, man, that it was somebody behind the scenes

676
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: trying to pull springs man to slow your road down.

677
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you ever got black balls? You was?

678
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: You was at too much momentum and you're getting it

679
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: back now, dog, But you had way too much. I

680
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: was really expecting you to be like that next trick

681
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: type of nicked dog to where you're selling the five

682
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: ten million albums going diamond and Ship and then it

683
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: kind of just like like, damn, what's the name mac?

684
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What happened? What I said

685
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: somebody here that backs I mean, uh, I can't even

686
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: say that. Man. What I can't say is the time

687
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: I was dropping music, I just didn't have a team, man,

688
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: you know what, And it's hard like you could be

689
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the you could be the most tindiest thing in the world,

690
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: or without a team and co in dropping music on

691
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: people in music. Now because I got a team, you

692
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and that's one thing that's

693
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: started realized, Like the music had never been knocked dope.

694
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: The music has always been note like a game. You

695
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: have to have a team. And I ain't just talking

696
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: about no nanga and um you need to manage your publicists,

697
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. It's all kind of y'all. You

698
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: need a team, pr you need you need your engineer

699
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: on hand, and I mean like stuff like that nature

700
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: because you're worked every day and there's no off day.

701
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: When you're grinding, you gotta ben. I don't had a

702
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: taste of phone, and I feel I want to go

703
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: further than what you saw me. Then then I hadn't

704
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: scratched the surface. If you ask me, you are on

705
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: the incline door, not on the decline. You can see

706
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: it because when they hit me, when Mark producer for

707
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: the show Taylor, when our producer for the show Tayler

708
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: hit me, I said, hell, yeah, that's one of my

709
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: favorite young niggers. You know what I mean because of

710
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: the fact you make music, Dog. You make music in

711
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: this real soulful of melody. Dog. That's one thing about

712
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: the South. You can almost hear the gospel on all

713
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: the records. I don't care from Texas, Miami or whatever.

714
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: You can hear the church. Dog. I all won't see

715
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: a preacher up there, big black dude that there you

716
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: go sweat, Yeah, that's real. Yeah, and you can hear Dog. No,

717
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: I want to go to something Dog in your present situation,

718
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: not assume you're you're releasing this yourself, right, yes, sir,

719
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: um independent, I gotta distro, so you gotta be you

720
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: got a distribution situation? Are you happy? You know, being

721
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: the artist that you are? You seeing both sides of

722
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: the point. Because Tid got picked up out major label.

723
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: Which would you prefer to be on a major label

724
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: dog or independent run of your own show like you

725
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: are now? Me? Uh, it has to be the independent

726
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why because I had the boat.

727
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And like to any new

728
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: artists out there, like I don't want to change your mind.

729
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Label deal maybe the best situation for you. As I

730
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: tell every artist to do what's best for them and

731
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: what's best for me staying independent. And I say that

732
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: because man, it's nothing like having that creative control. It's

733
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: nothing like being able to drop when you want to drop.

734
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: It's nothing like dropping without out the red tape and

735
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: you know yellow for acts, So like those are my

736
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: biggest pursse. But you still got your person signing with

737
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: a label, So that's what I say. Do it's best

738
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: for you. So with a label, um man, you got

739
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: these project manager, it's way more people on your team.

740
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: But way, my motherfucker's dipping in your check. Because with

741
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: a record deal, Dog, when they tell you that you're

742
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: getting that, you gotta recoup. Dogs. See what people don't understand.

743
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: It's like you're making seven dollars, but they only come

744
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: from crediting you four a dollar. You see what I'm saying.

745
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: So you would never you would never ever recoup recoup

746
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: or like I felt like, you'll never ever know just

747
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: what's what's really going on because the money coming to you,

748
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: you can't pay it. Last is your money, but you

749
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: can't pay last your money didn't make me sense, And

750
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 1: like like the way I was brought Like like I said, man,

751
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: if I'm the catch, I need to get the linet

752
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: person in paying the team. It's just it's just that's

753
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: the where my mind, not me being definitely, it's just

754
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: me knowing my work. Then get enough. We talked about

755
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: Atlanta earlier. Atlanta is hot as fish reefs now, not

756
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: just his music. Y'all got a lot of pistol play

757
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: going on out there. Dog. I thought l A was

758
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: bad in Chicago, y'all right, y'all right up there, dog,

759
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's because you know, you got the

760
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: gas station. This is nicked with a big as iron

761
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: them inside of this hip. You know what I'm saying.

762
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: You know they out there doing it like that. Man.

763
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: With that being said, are you still presently in Atlanta? Yes? Man,

764
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: born and raids, and it's about like anywhere you go. Man,

765
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I won't never leave, but you no,

766
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: just my city and you got to be I respect

767
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the Atlanta, I respect the territories and just knowing how

768
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: to move man, respecting everybody's face. Man, if I see

769
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: that dude again, it's actually the third I speak to

770
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: him first. I don't make him feel known first. And

771
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it They ain't got nothing

772
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: to me being scary, just me respecting my territory. Man.

773
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Know what chrome with these young niggers. Man, you know

774
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I think that's one of the

775
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: things that make Atlanta dangers doggs. I got family down there,

776
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: my mama down and everything else, so I'm in the

777
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: a all the time. The thing uls it down their

778
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: dog that make it real dangerous is just saying that

779
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: people this natives of Atlanta down there, You've got motherfucker's

780
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: and this uses the worst, the worst motherfucker's. You got

781
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: motherfuckers coming from Brooklyn. You got niggas coming from l A. Chicago,

782
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: and they usually bringing all their baggage with them and

783
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: all their bullshit that and that they bring in the

784
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: coaching from those cities to the Atlanta And this ain't

785
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: that type of city though, So I ain't on a

786
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of them, A lot of

787
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the a tlling that been on people who was from

788
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: Boring and raised a lot of us. A lot of

789
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: them are leaving, man because the culture or the city

790
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: is not felt and not heavily felt like it used

791
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: to be um teen years ago or seven years ago.

792
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like a lot of them

793
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: older people ain't going to the parts to p month

794
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: parts no more to go walk understanding house man, because

795
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: it wouldn't been so much gun violence. Yeah, because I

796
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: know one of the things I was about to move

797
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Man had a house already set up and everything,

798
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: and I was about to rent my career to one

799
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: of my own boys in l A. Right, And the

800
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: thing that stopped me from moving down there. I remember

801
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: I was down there. I stayed down there for like

802
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: two weeks. I'm feeling the city out. I'm going to

803
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: the school district. You know, we're doing all the ships

804
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you do when you're getting ready to move right. I'm

805
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: at the gas station, dog, and I hear somebody saying still.

806
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, who the And I'm thinking, there couldn't be

807
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: nobody talking to me. I don't know nobody out here,

808
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: and the people I'll do, they're not. I'll hear no

809
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: gas station. Still, Cuse what's happening to my nigga? And

810
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up? Man? When you get down here?

811
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: When you get down here, cuse? And I'm like, man,

812
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm about to come on down a minute. Man,

813
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, me and the homies onething mom down there

814
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: and these I'm talking about this nigga. He a cool cat.

815
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: He and the acquaintance of mind of nigga I know.

816
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, if this nigga down, he ain't

817
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: no telling who the funk I was down here. And

818
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: then once I saw he was right around a couple

819
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: of blocks from where I was moving to, I said, hell.

820
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I told my wife, I said, this is a noo.

821
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm keeping some ship and I'm coming right to the same.

822
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: It's so small. It's smaller than with you know what

823
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: you're thinking it like, it's so small. You know everybody.

824
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like And if you

825
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: don't know him, you got a family member who does.

826
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm real for real. Let's tapping in real

827
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: quick with the people that allowed us to bring you

828
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: this amazing content. And you know what one thing I

829
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: wanted to ask a maybe you can elaborate on this.

830
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: I noticed that every region of the South has their

831
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: own unique sound, and Atlanta right about now is the

832
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: most bit sound and most duplicated and replicated sound in

833
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: the motherfucking country. But I always want to live it works.

834
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 1: It looks good through our people that that that don't

835
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: that that that's either dude on the corner, you know,

836
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: and he used to shine or ball or make some

837
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: of himself. He got his life together. Atlanta has given

838
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: in so many different eras a great version of Hey,

839
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: if you're blank and you want to be successful, you

840
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: want to be with a ball and right around other

841
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: people that ball. Not be a shame of me to

842
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: feel bad because you're a ball. Come here in Atlanta

843
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: is super inviting like that But what Home is expressing

844
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: is something that I think. I honestly think it's something

845
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: that's happened in a lot of major city that are

846
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: known for their when and that encourage us as a

847
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: community of what we look like to each other. Right,

848
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: all of this is changing the gentrification in one aspect

849
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: and just what your neighborhood is not the same no more.

850
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, no one has respect for the elders, no one.

851
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No one is processing um.

852
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: You know this is the big homely he has succeeded.

853
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Let me watch his footsteps to make it. Now. They

854
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: won't I take his ship? You know, why would we

855
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: hurt somebody as up lifting it so much? So I

856
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: think those layers has changed, you know what I'm saying.

857
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: But the fall back, of course Atlanta has influenced. And

858
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't have Atlanta influence. I think most record

859
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: companies say, God damn, this is doing so well. You

860
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think people there's no different

861
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: than seeing Michael Jackson moonwalk across the stage. You know

862
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I want to do that ship like

863
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you gotta respect that.

864
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: So man like a major major um salute to the

865
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: State of Georgia for Atlanta, Georgia from zone on the

866
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: zone soever that stop the zone six thinking like, man, Bro,

867
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: you gotta raise up the people that inspire you and

868
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: set the ball. You know what I'm saying. It set

869
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: the buck. Kwan then gave birth to a lot of

870
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: artists out there, and that's what I'm gonna say. I'm

871
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna tell you you gave birth to a lot of artists.

872
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the credit. Always a

873
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of credit gets thrown with young thugs Way and

874
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: he's a dope, influential dude, very influential cat. But you

875
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: was kind of like the precursor to all that stuff.

876
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: He was right there at the beginning. Dog Like, really

877
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: you are probably responsible for the melodies coming to the game.

878
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: He man, Man, you, you and Drake. I would say,

879
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: you and Drake y'all force motherfucker's because if you was

880
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: one of them, the average thinking that got bars couldn't

881
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: make it in this area. You gotta build to hold

882
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: a note. Now you see people think it's just about

883
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: turning the Horto tune. No, you gotta still build the

884
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: same to a degree that everything and soundbelievable. Man, Yeah

885
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: for really, yeah you did though you can actually sing

886
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: just like now. I'm like man, because at first I

887
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: was like, man, is he a R and B Dude?

888
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, maybe like a Hugard right now.

889
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: But you gave birth to a lot of people like iland.

890
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: This is a no knock against these young people because everybody,

891
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: everybody has origins somewhere else. Everybody was influenced by somebody,

892
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: you know. So if you look at people now like

893
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: the little homie Roddy Rich, you can tell he was

894
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: definitely influenced by Atlanta in specific, the rich homie quams

895
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: from West Coast, right, yeah, from the West Coast. Don't

896
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: sound like you were thank you from the definitely bro.

897
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you shout out to shout out to

898
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: a little on me dog. He used to actually recorded

899
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: me and glass of studio and signal here before he

900
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: got on, and I knew he was tight. But it's

901
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: a whole. That's a thing about hip hop now though

902
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: everybody can wrap a little bit, so it's very sail them.

903
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: I here some ship that's just trash, but that raises

904
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: the bar because if you just right here, dog, and

905
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: you're not right here, everybody is looking to go right here.

906
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So I remember we had

907
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: had Crazy Bones, he had launched his we'ves training. We

908
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: had a party at this banks to Beverly Hills, had

909
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: this little spot that I was doing content out of

910
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Beverly Heels, right, So we had a party for his

911
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: train release and the DJ up there. That was the

912
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: first week I think the Boxer came out and I

913
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: heard it, but I saw how the floora went up.

914
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: It went from being just a party to wear niggas

915
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: listening to music. Now nigga's moving couches off the way

916
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: they out and that motherfucker rocket, you know what I mean.

917
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: And I remember the way they mixed the record in

918
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: because the DJs. One thing I'm gonna tell artists up,

919
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: my thing gets you a d DJ on your team,

920
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: a real DJ nigger. The DJ actually goes to working

921
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: clubs and ship because that motherfucker knows what's happening. So

922
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: the way that DJ broke this record in, he played

923
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: some of your records, then he came back, he played

924
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: some thug, he plays mother Ship, then he came in

925
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: with that in them. Then then then I don't know

926
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: what the funk this nigga is saying, but I'm like,

927
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: this ship jam, what the motherfucker my big ball here?

928
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: They asked the floor rocket because it's jam. It's a

929
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: field with y'all nigga's got like that lifestyle record. I

930
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk Doug Burg but saying all

931
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: I knew that was going and I don't want cars, Damn.

932
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm like the motherfucker the ship isn't infectious and hell dog,

933
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: and I think the thing that people do love about Atlanta,

934
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: and I swear to God, y'all nigga stay at your

935
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: own sins. Don't go down there, yep. Come, don't don't

936
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: bring your cripping ship down there. Don't bring your blood

937
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: and ship down there. Don't bring none of your games

938
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: of discipleship. Look at beat our black maker dog, because

939
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't like about the dog. I like

940
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: the fact and this ain't I love everybody. Dog, Shout

941
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: out to my Mexican people, Shout for the white folks

942
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: I love. I'm all about love and respect for everybody.

943
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: But we're not going to the Mexican restaurant I want

944
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: to see a little old Mexican lady with her a

945
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: little apron on dog making my chocolates and ship. I

946
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: don't want to go back there and see the nigga

947
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: with no ankle break from you know what I mean.

948
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I want the authenticity when I go to a soul restaurant.

949
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I want to see a black old man at the

950
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: counter with a grip of money in this pocket, with

951
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: the old lady in the back of fact, black ding

952
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: in the back fixing my plate. I don't want to

953
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: go back then and see nobody else in Atlanta. That's

954
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: what I loved it. By the dog, I actually felt

955
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: like I was at home. Dog. I could walk down

956
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: the street. Motherfucker's actually speak to you, and I'm talking

957
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: about black excellence, dog, not no motherfucker's speak and proper

958
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: English mocking tropic vocapullary. Dog. How you doing, brother? I

959
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: was down there, man. I feel so motherfucking dude about

960
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: being black. Sometimes we forget who we are as the people. Dog,

961
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel so good and I love my brothers and sisters. Yeah,

962
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: that's what we don't want to lose. That we does.

963
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: Don't don't lose that, don't suck it. Up, dog, because

964
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: that really and it hurt me. Dog, not only because

965
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: that y'all ship cheap is cheaper than motherfucker. At that time,

966
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I had me a big ass spot. Dog. You figure,

967
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming from l a round, paid like seven fifty

968
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: for some three beer ship two dollars square feet. I

969
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: go down there and I'm like, what are Morris? It

970
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna be? What? And I got a bigg ass backyard.

971
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: I go out down. I'm already putting a spot where

972
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm gona playing my greens and ship in the back.

973
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: Y'd'm gonna have a real you know, I'm I'm sitting

974
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: up for my letter years. Dog, I'm thinking about fifteen

975
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: years and now when I'm old nigga sitting on my

976
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: porch drinking lemonade and going back with my greens and

977
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: my fruit trees. You know, I saw that, dog. It

978
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: was really discouraging, dog, because and the things that really

979
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: people need to do something about. I talked to the

980
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 1: only big kid about this Atlanta. People of Atlanta, real citizens.

981
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about people born and raised there. Don't let

982
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: these outfly inside influences turn you wanted some other ship.

983
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: So a lot of Atlanta niggas is picking up l

984
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: A hats, they picking up Chicago habits, They're picking up

985
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: all this, and it's just, man, what is your thought

986
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: on all the black on black frown? See, we always

987
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: talk about these police officers that's out here wooping on this.

988
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: We do each other way the police. That's how I

989
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: ain't never understood or just like agreed, were always talking

990
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: about it ain't enough of us. But when we continue to,

991
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: you know, harm each other. Like my eyes, we got

992
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: broken into like probably on white people. Niggas. You dog

993
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: now you know now you just know that, like come on, mater,

994
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: I we just gotta do better as the people. And

995
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: like that's any black person man, you know what I mean.

996
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: We just gotta come together as as the people. Like

997
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: my buddy was telling me something. A white man can

998
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: tell another white man, fucking nigga to be drinking that

999
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: same night, you tell a black man fuck you. Now,

1000
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: it's basically like your old blood nine you on his kids,

1001
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Joe kids is up. A little black man sucking me up.

1002
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: And I feel like we just gotta find that love

1003
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: for each other man. We all come similar backgrounds. I

1004
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: don't give a damn how like how different it was

1005
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: that similar some way man we got similarity was a

1006
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: color man. We got stick together. But that's unlovely gonna last.

1007
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know that I've watched, gonna be heard. We

1008
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: gotta stick together, yeah for sure, because I know one

1009
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: thing Atlanta did. Dudes, Like I said, I don't been

1010
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: running the end and out of there for some years,

1011
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: even when I wouldn't. You know, in the industry so

1012
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: to speak, y'all always been some hustling motherfucker's. But that's

1013
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: every city down south, and they always had the homies

1014
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: from Atlanta always had some kind of scheme. Goom. I know, y'all,

1015
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: like they like the credit cars down on there. They

1016
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: like to funk with that dope, you know what I mean.

1017
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: That's what they were in Two Dogs. It wasn't a

1018
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: whole bunch of killing going on, bro, But I saw

1019
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: some ship. Have y'all heard this man that there was

1020
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: an inimating Georgia and a maximum security prison the robbed

1021
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: a man from millions of dollars from his sale about

1022
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: the house about hopes and ship off an iPhone dog

1023
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: if they don't motivate the motherfucker to get off his

1024
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: ass and go out and get the dog. Yeah, what

1025
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You know, he's an Atlanta nigger, this motherfucker.

1026
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna read the article real quick, y'all, so

1027
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look down real quick so I don't think

1028
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking like this in the real life soccer with

1029
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: plod Twitch straight out of Hollywood. Federal authorities believe a

1030
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: man locked away in the Georgia prison stole eleven million

1031
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: dollars from a billionaire movie mogul and may have gotten

1032
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: away with stealing millions more from mother dig in theres.

1033
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: The story involves gold coins and private plane, devil bag

1034
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: stuff for cash, and the buckhead mansion mansion bucket. That's

1035
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: a ball in that spot out there, and it adds

1036
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: up to potentially one of the biggest heights ever pulled

1037
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: off from inside of the American prison, made even more

1038
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: startling by the fact that the end might with inmate

1039
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: was in the George's Department of Correction Special Management Unit

1040
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: of maximum security facility designed to house the state's most

1041
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: hardly criminals for more than two years. Federal agents and

1042
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: attorneys that have been sitting through evidence that Lee points

1043
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: to out thirty one year old off for Lee koe

1044
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: Field as soon the identity of California being at Sydney

1045
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Kimmel and stole e living million dollars. Kimmel, Sure, Charles Wilber, Come,

1046
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: so this is a rich motherfucker and this Atlanta asked

1047
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: nigger inside the jail, don't happen to this nigga system

1048
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: from a phone? Dog? That's it wasn't right, dog, But

1049
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: it took him a lot of time planning the execution.

1050
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: Just imagined if that brother, he had to be a

1051
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: pretty duitive above average intellecting intelligence to figure this out

1052
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: plotted and to get away with it as long as

1053
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: he did. Now, Greed might have got the best stuff

1054
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: and his mindset. It's probably like, funk it, I'm me

1055
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: here anyway, what the hell they go do to me?

1056
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying? So just imagine if he

1057
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: had put them superpowers in the positive direction, he probably

1058
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be and he'd probably be CEO of some company

1059
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: somewhere for every nigga and make it in Atlanta. How

1060
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: many niggas you're thinking locked up right now? Dog? Despite

1061
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: the Kolba's motherfucker's, you don't ever heard most of them man,

1062
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: I thought most of the tenant in jail and most

1063
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: of them that's crazy. Man. Oh so fine, let me

1064
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: ask you this because you're from the opposite end, because

1065
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: you're from the city that have been don like New

1066
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Orleans been killing up ship for years. Dog. Yeah, not

1067
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: nothing to be proud of, but it's true they've been

1068
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: killing up ship for years. I'm gonna ask both of

1069
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: y'all this, both rappers, right. You know, when you're in

1070
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: the industry, you have a costume, even it's meat. As

1071
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: an executive, I had a costume. I knew when I

1072
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: stepped into a ward show. I was will have on

1073
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: a ten thousand dollar suit. I was gonna have on

1074
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: the rolex. You know what I'm saying. I was gonna

1075
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: have on some flying because, like you said, well, it's

1076
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: not that we'd like to flowing our success, but you

1077
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: have to look the park or you're not gonna go

1078
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: to do business. If I show up to meet with somebody,

1079
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: if I showed up to meet with you as an artist,

1080
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: and you see, I'll pull up in the motherfucking me sign,

1081
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: motherfucking you know hub caps when the motherfucker's ship falling off,

1082
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: ships smoking and ship and I'm talking about I want

1083
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: to sign you to a record deal. You can get

1084
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: up a walk away. I could have a billion dollars

1085
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: in the bank. That's just what I'm on. But you're

1086
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: gonna get up and walk away, or you may take

1087
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: the meeting just out of curtsy, like I ain't sucking

1088
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: that broke as they pulled up in this matter shirt

1089
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: was durty and everything else. But if I come up

1090
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: looking the park, if I pull up in the range

1091
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: for over of some kind of truck of some ship,

1092
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: and I got the motherfucking you blow on, and I

1093
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: got the pinky ring on the ship, and I'm I

1094
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: got it. I'm reached in the pocket. Just so you know,

1095
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: that's what they do, right. I could be the broken

1096
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: motherfuck in the world. But I don't sold you the dream.

1097
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: You go, you you probably gonna do some business with

1098
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: me because I looked apart, so you have to look

1099
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: a part. How does all the silly ship that's going

1100
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: on right now force you to move as a rapper?

1101
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Do you think about sometimes? Man, maybe I'm not gonna

1102
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: put my costume oway on the day. I'm gonna get

1103
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: clean up and throw me Like right now, you look perfect.

1104
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. You got ball cap on,

1105
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: you look like a rapper, but you're not overly you know,

1106
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: you ain't got over saturated. And know what I'm saying, like, yeah,

1107
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: it's only going to these cities, man, Like I don't

1108
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: know this timeages. I'm only putting Like everything I'm going

1109
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: on stage. I don't even like all that ship around

1110
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: my neck. It's uncomfortable and I ain't trying to being

1111
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: carried it too long, Like I don't like being carried on.

1112
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm on stage other than that, like I'm in character

1113
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: most of the time, but I'm trying to be the

1114
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: regular care to People can relate to characters, so I'm

1115
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: not bringing myself too much attention where you know what

1116
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It was yeah for real man, so family

1117
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: and Moola dog. How long when you're working on that

1118
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: project before you decide to put it out, Like what

1119
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: was the process behind everything? The process process? It's like

1120
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I probably had some songs are older.

1121
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: Some songs might be like two years, three years old.

1122
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Some songs was reaching a moneygo you know, But it's

1123
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: more so like I just try to create timeless music.

1124
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't really have a process. I just try to

1125
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: miss the studio when I got a lot of my mind.

1126
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: I just want to release. I go on the record

1127
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: when I know we want to coming together to do

1128
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: a project. I wanted all the music to be entwined,

1129
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: so I would say I focused on, just like what

1130
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: I have been doing, what got me back. I wanna

1131
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: go what got me bad, motivated and then with family

1132
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: and some money, family and some money. Yeah, I just

1133
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: want to drop, you know, a practical line of stuff

1134
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: that inspired me to get back from the zone and

1135
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: the public. Now that you've gotta knowed that you have

1136
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: your label situation, are you looking at definially signed other

1137
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: talent or bring other talent onto that label and developer

1138
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: the town? Yes, of course I don't know, but uh yeah,

1139
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: of course I would development Chaln. I was probably development

1140
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: channel the far A sign to chann Um, but I've

1141
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: been more in tune and looks like the production side

1142
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: um me and producing my production company, signing producers. Man

1143
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: like I want to go another team year twelve years.

1144
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: In order to do that, I want to had the

1145
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: dopiest beach because I want to create, continue to create.

1146
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to focus on artists. And

1147
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm still up myself, focused on myself right now. I

1148
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: feel that dog and that's that's the real thing, you know. Um,

1149
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, manage your rapper named Glass him alone, right,

1150
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: And what's funny is your story is saying he doesn't

1151
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: want to record again. We've had a few people contact

1152
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: us recently, you know, for single deals and stuff that

1153
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: nature to get back in that building. And after he

1154
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: had the second major record deal, he said, I never

1155
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: want a major record deal again because I'm not in

1156
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: control of my finish. He said, I'm not in control

1157
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: of my finished product because what they did in the

1158
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: midst of us. We were signed to Sony first. We

1159
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: had a big gass deal with Sony. They gave us

1160
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: all that money, shut the black music department down six

1161
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: months later. It was the weirdest it ever. So we

1162
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: got to walk away not only with the money, but

1163
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: they paid for every song we had. Was paid for

1164
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: a dog, every everything we did. Dog. So we had

1165
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of records we had, you know, his

1166
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: album was done, They had White Cliff Chong, that motherfucker.

1167
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: The moment we signed the cash money that record mind

1168
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: well got through in the trash Dog and it got

1169
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: made into some whole oather stuff. And at that time,

1170
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Glasses didn't quite knewho he was as an artist. You know,

1171
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: it's just you know, like his first album, you know,

1172
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: he didn't know who he was, so he wound up

1173
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: listening to everybody else and he wind up putting a

1174
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: piece of a piece of work. And I'm not gonna

1175
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: say a sub parts the album was jamming, but it

1176
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: wasn't with that first album was it was a story.

1177
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: The first album is a story. And that's you know,

1178
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: trying to explain that to a record company executive because see,

1179
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: people think when you want to go sign to a

1180
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: Birdman or cash money, yeah you're dealing with them on

1181
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: a certain aspect, But you're dealing with the people at

1182
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: the label Morrison because what they say, yeah, you know,

1183
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: because Burden and it's the home me. You go over there,

1184
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: they ain't trying to tell you to change ship. They're

1185
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: jamming that motherfucker dog that you know, you're chilling. It's

1186
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: a five. But when you're going in you've got some

1187
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: sixty year old white dude telling you that do this.

1188
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: He don't understand Dog the album is a story. You

1189
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: can't put this song over here. It has the flow

1190
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: a certain way. They don't give a fund is they

1191
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: spend their money. Dog, If you want this ship to

1192
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: go your way the way you want to go, you

1193
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: have to go do it yourself. You gotta come to thing.

1194
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: And I can tell you, dog, the smartest ships you say,

1195
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: because I see artists do that. Sometimes they play themself.

1196
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: They go out to sign fifty artists. Now you pull

1197
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: up in a new car that you don't work your

1198
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: ass off to go get all these artists. Is looking

1199
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: at you like, man, that's where our money is at. Man,

1200
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: he's feeling from us. They ain't made you spending money

1201
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: on him. They're not making money. And a lot of

1202
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: other you know what I'm saying, negative thoughts and and that,

1203
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: and that prevens you giving people opportunities. How about you?

1204
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Thing do you not do you? Does that ever stop

1205
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: you from sucking artists the way you want to? Uh? Yeah, Man,

1206
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: I just think that at the end of the day,

1207
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: you know you got what you're looking to do. You

1208
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: want to help people, You want to bring something to

1209
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: the table. But quain just hit it on the nose,

1210
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm spaying, like you know, now I

1211
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: guess to looking like that. You know, everybody's looking to

1212
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: see what they don't have or how come the same

1213
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: movements fast for them? You know what I'm saying. When

1214
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: you've been in there like like raw, so you wouldn't

1215
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: women shooting in the gym? You know, fifty thousand free throws?

1216
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I look, I've been doing

1217
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: it for so long, you know what I'm saying, And

1218
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: I think that is true. I try to run independent labels.

1219
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: I like to call it like boutique ish style. You know,

1220
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: boutique is management, boutique style production. Like instead of fifty

1221
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: artists fifty producers, um, fifty managers, I might deal with

1222
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: two three and we can all communicate and we can build.

1223
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. People need to see actions.

1224
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I call it spend the beneffect.

1225
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: When we spend that been in, they see that we

1226
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: want step closer to something in their own place where

1227
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: they want to be. They could be motivated to keep

1228
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: doing this, you know what I'm saying. And that's how

1229
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: you said. And then the day you need a team

1230
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: people that's got be here to equally and want to

1231
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: play their part. You know what I'm saying, everybody can

1232
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: be cheap. It's it's seven days out the week. Guess

1233
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: what somebody might got to do this that it might

1234
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: be better than the other one. I think most people

1235
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: need to just find a place, be a team and

1236
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: get there. It's a lot of money. You know. It

1237
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: makes as much of not more money than the football

1238
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: industry every year. There's enough money for everybody, so me

1239
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: personally man to still be able to be able to

1240
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: produce music like Won doing to this day. You know

1241
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, With this moonla and money and still

1242
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: be focused, they will be passionate about it. You're me.

1243
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: I think this is a real good example, especially being showcase,

1244
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: because this stuff is like a vampire man. It will

1245
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: drain you. It will take everything from you. You know

1246
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to try to what it's going to

1247
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: try to like where you out and kill you, take

1248
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: your life from you, put you in jail, put you

1249
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: in the ground, and to make your people turn on

1250
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: you behind what they assume you got. You know what

1251
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, real ship here at me to make so

1252
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: called friends remembers just because you got the same last name,

1253
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: same bloodline. Man that ship man. There's nothing man, man,

1254
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I got a pot of doing three life sentences. You

1255
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: know to tell me said faith greed only gets bigger

1256
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: and never gets smaller. Yeah, the more you get, the

1257
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: more you want to quin. I appreciate you falling through dogs.

1258
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: We don't run over a little bit. But your conversation

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Speaker 1: is so compelling. Dog, I don't want to do the same.

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Speaker 1: You know, um ending out for action Instagram ship dog

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Speaker 1: like that can producers can outside producers get at you? Um? Yes, man,

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Speaker 1: outside produce you can get at me. I got this email.

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Speaker 1: My eye cry that I just I put out the

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Speaker 1: man are eight are as in Robert h as in

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Speaker 1: hell the number four ill as in love r for

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Speaker 1: him at cloud dot com. Man, So I check out

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Speaker 1: my beach and stuff like that. Yeah for sure you'll

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Speaker 1: heard them, said the man say, looking for ducers. Don't

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Speaker 1: be flooding his in box with no trash. I need

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Speaker 1: to hide it. Yeah for sure for shure for shore man.

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Speaker 1: When we appreciate you, man, coming on dog much, continue

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Speaker 1: to success, man, y'all make sure man y'all go check

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Speaker 1: the description man of the show. We could have all

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Speaker 1: his links in there. Man go jam the album's cham

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Speaker 1: and like a motherfucker dog jam and salute man, saluting,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on your dog, on your journeyman continues success, machieve

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Speaker 1: many I would love man. Everybody go get that mood

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Speaker 1: lot and money now rich on me. No hold on, man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you're tending them to write direction

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Speaker 1: dog family and Mula family family and move like. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be giving the other nigga no credit

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Speaker 1: off this ship charts. I don't got the I don't

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Speaker 1: got the gainst the Chronicles shout out. Now I'm on top.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get that back home. We a this motherfucker Well.

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Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast and Norman Steve James mcdowald, Aran m c a. Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Our visual media director is Brian White, and our audio

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Speaker 1: editors Taylor Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a production of

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