1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Phillies show. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 3: Ubin tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury Todd z A lucky It's Monday, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: June ninth, twenty twenty five. Gentlemen, I hope you guys 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: are doing well today. Good have a good weekend other 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: than outside of the. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 4: Baseball better than the fightings. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, better than the fightings, that is for sure. The 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: Phillies gets swept in Pittsburgh this weekend. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: It's the first time. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much to unpack here about what's 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: going on right now with the Phillies. It's the first 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 3: time the last place Pirates have won three games in 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: a row all season. The Phillies have lost five straight. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 3: They've lost nine out of ten. I went back and looked. 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: The last time the Phillies have lost nine out of 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: ten games was June twelfth, the twenty third, twenty nineteen, 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: the game that they won in that stretch, Just to 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: give you a little perspective on how long it's been. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: The relievers that came into that game were JD. Hammer, 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: Juan n Cassio, Jose Alvarez, du Briy Ramos got the win, 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: and Hector Narris got the saves. So it has been 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: a long time since the Phillies have had a bad 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: stretch like that. And we talk all the time how 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: every team's going to have stretches, bad stretches. Every team's 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: going to have slumps offensively, every player is going to 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: have struggles. But it's been a long long time since 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: the Phillies have played this bad for this long. They 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: are now thirty seven and twenty eight. They're four and 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: a half games behind the Mets. They're only one game 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: up on the Cardinals for the third wild card. You know, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: you think about it, that day that they got the 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: day that they split the Braves and that doubleheader on 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: May twenty ninth, they were thirty six and twenty they 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: had the best record in the National League, and they 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: had a two game lead over the Mets in the 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: National League. So in ten days they've lost six and 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: a half games in the standings to the Mets. Can't 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: get much worse than this, chim No. 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: You can't. And I was gonna point out they've lost 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: seven and a half games in fifteen days. I mean 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: that's a you know, that's a free fall. They've been 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, one and nine the offense has disappeared. You know, 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: it's it's hard when you you know you don't have 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: Wheeler in this stretch. He's, you know, highest paid single 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: season salary of any starting pitcher in Major League history. 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: You don't have Harper, three hundred and thirty million dollars. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: You don't have Nola, So you're missing some some big guns. 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: And you know, offensively, you're basically looking at two guys, 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Turner and Schwarber. And Schwarber's kind of in one of 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: his in a little bit of a rut, which he's 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: allowed because he's been so good, because he's human, because 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: it's baseball, and that happens. But you know, when you 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: have two hitters and one of the main hitting, you 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: know they've lost. They've scored one run in four of 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: their last five games. I mean, you've gotten some pitching 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 4: here and there, and know Lozardo's struggle, but they've they've 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: gotten some pitching, especially the last couple of days in Pittsburgh. 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: This is just an ugly stretch that they have to 60 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: pull themselves out of, and it's it's not going to 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: be easy when your best player, Bryce Harper, we don't 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: know when he's going to be back back on the 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: aisle or on the ile. We don't know when he's 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 4: going to be back. I'm very in troubled that he 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: just had six days off because he could hit in 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 4: the elbow and and and that didn't calm his wrist down, 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: and now he had to go on the ale. I 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: don't know. Just the ugly weekend in Pittsburgh, Groo, when 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: you were there, how ugly was it? 70 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Well it wasn't pretty, There's no question about that. 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 5: But you know, I think there's so many different things 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: that are happening sort of at the same time. 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, there are getting some like you know. 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: Offensive like quote unquote production from Boem and Casillianos, but 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: it's not run production. They're getting some hits, but they're 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: not driving the ball, they're not hitting the ball for 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: extra base hits. They're getting literally almost nothing until you know, 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: Marshawn and marsh hooked up yesterday on Sunday afternoon to 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: produce one run for you know, the Phillies against Schemes. 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: That bottom of the lineup has been really, really bad. 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean it just really has been non existent. 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 5: And uh and and you know, Bryson Scott has not 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 5: stepped forward since you know, uh, it's been a very 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: it's a tough month of May for him and a 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 5: tough early part of the June, and uh, you know, 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: he really hasn't moved forward. I'm not sure what the 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 5: deal is, but you know what he was doing in 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 5: the early part of the season getting on base, and 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: you know, he's still seeing pitches and that sort of thing. 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: He's just not producing. 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Bass hits and h scoring runs and doing what you 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: need to do at the top of the lineup. 93 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: So it's a bad combination of things right now. 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: And you know, Jimmy mentioned that Schober's gone a little uh, 95 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: it's gone a little cold. 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: But again, he can't carry the entire team. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 5: Other people in this team, in this lineup who have 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 5: to do the damage. You know, I think there was 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 5: a downer when Lozardo had his two outings. I think 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 5: that that that brought that that had a sort of 101 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 5: a domino effect on some some things. By and large, 102 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: the rotation has really pitched well. I mean, those starting 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: pitchers have done okay well. Christopher Sanchez and Able pitched 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 5: well in his you know, in his two outings that 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: he's thrown. So you know, I think the starting pitch 106 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: is pitching is certainly its strength, but they are not 107 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: getting any offensive. 108 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Production at all. When you and you. 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: Lose Harper in the middle of it, that even though 110 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: he's gone, they should still be producing runs and they're 111 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: not doing it. I would not be surprised. I mean, 112 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 5: you're not getting any production on a centerfield and left. 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: Field basically got your second base. 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 5: And your second basement is not doing a lot either, 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: So you've got three positions where you're talking about dead 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: outs right now. And uh, and that makes it difficult, 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: you know, to to produce runs if you know one 118 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: of your big boys aren't are sliding backwards. You know, 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: Trade Turner's like the only guy who's been super, super consistent. 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: Casianos is getting his hits, but but there's sometimes a 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 5: lot of times when he gets his hits, nobody on Uh, 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: you know, he's not driving in runs or scoring runs 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: because the guys behind him are not doing very much. 124 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: So you're not getting the kind of run production that's 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: really necessary to to be sustainable and uh, and that 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: is concerning, and I do think that, uh, that's something 127 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: a change is going to be made. I know that 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: they've avery brought out of camp. It was nice to 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: see him get an opportunity. He's not going to be 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: instant offense, but it might inject some life. And and he 131 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: had a you know, a couple of tough days against 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 5: a top you know, a couple of tough, tough pitchers. 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna get a chance to play. 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: And uh and you may see him float out to 135 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: the left field at some point when. 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Harper gets back. 137 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 5: And you may very well see Justin Crawford sometime soon 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: and that that, and once he's healthy, I think he's 139 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: got a little bit of a. 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Quad thing going on right now. 141 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 5: He was out of the lineup for a couple of days, 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 5: but I think Dave Nembrowski was down there watching them 143 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: in in Charlotte, and uh and I got to believe 144 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: that some point sometime pretty soon, And Jimmy, you talked 145 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: about it, you know, the possibility of injecting a little 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: bit of energy just for a guy just to make 147 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: some contact and try to create some things and maybe 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 5: steal a base and score a running. 149 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: You may be seeing Crawford sometime soon. 150 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: He gets like two hits a night, but he is 151 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: out of the lineup now. He hasn't played in what 152 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: three days, I think, and you've talked about it. We've 153 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: talked about bringing him one. You know that you have 154 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: to know that he's mentally ready because this is just 155 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: an entire early different level here. But a point you've 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: made a number of times, Ruben. You don't want to 157 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: bring him when the balance of the team is struggling, 158 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: so it feels like he's got to do too much 159 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: or carry or change the tom You want him to 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: kind of blend in. So it's it's a little bit 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: rocking a hard place. 162 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, you got the injury. 163 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: You don't want him to You don't want to bring 164 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 4: it when everybody's struggling. But it's getting close to taking 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 4: a look time. So it's interesting. 166 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: So, yeah, Rubin, you mentioned a change, So what do 167 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: you think is the most likely change? So Rob Thompson 168 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: after the game on Sunday was asked, you know, is 169 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: it time to call a team meeting? 170 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: He said, you know? Maybe? 171 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: He was asked, is it time to make a change 172 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: to the lineup? He said, maybe. I've been thinking about 173 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: a lot of things. If you had to put your 174 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: money on the most likely thing that happened, we mentioned 175 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: justin Crawford coming up a roster shake up. What do 176 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: you think is the most likely thing? Do you think 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: they need a team meeting? Everybody loves to talk about 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: team meetings, right we you know, we know that in 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: baseball you got to get the boys together and start 180 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: throwing some stuff around and rallying the troops. What do 181 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: you think is the most likely thing to happen this 182 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: week or in the in the next couple of weeks. 183 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: I mean, a team leading meetings possible, but it may 184 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: have to come from the team itself. 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: I think it's anytime. Uh, you know, those things are sort. 186 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 5: Of staged that I don't think they're it that's sort 187 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 5: of happened organically and from within. I'd rather have it 188 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 5: come from the players than than from the manager, to 189 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: be honest with you, up and think they they hold 190 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: a lot more water. I don't think they're not trying 191 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: to play hard. That's not the issue. They're just not 192 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 5: hitting and and I think that there's a difference between 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: not wanting to play hard and not hitting. I don't 194 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 5: think there's any issues with these guys trying trying to 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 5: do well. They're not just you know, packing it in 196 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: they've run up against some some decent pitching, but they 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 5: you know, they just need to be better. This is 198 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: part of the game that they you know, they have 199 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 5: to they have to strap it on and just play better. 200 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: And and and as far as like to change his concern, 201 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I think the biggest change is to go 202 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 5: ahead and let Turner be in the leadoff slot. Just 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: leave them there. 204 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that that he might consider. 205 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 5: The other thing you might consider is if you don't 206 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: bring Crawford up, maybe just go ahead and go with 207 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: Johann Johann Rojas. And center field, Uh, Brandon Marsh has 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: been having some struggles with like just balls in the 209 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: air that are short. He hasn't been covering the ground 210 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: as a center fielder. He made one good, very good 211 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 5: catch against the wall and I guess in right center 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 5: field that was a that was a big catch. But 213 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 5: I think he's been struggling a little bit defensively and uh, 214 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 5: and I think it's hurt them on some occasions. And 215 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: I think that that's gotten to the point where they 216 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: may just say, you know what, let's just getan Rojas 217 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: a chance to play. And if that doesn't happen, then 218 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 5: they may very well bring Crawford. I don't know what 219 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 5: the subsequent moves going to be, but they might shake 220 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: some things up because you know, it's it's obvious they're 221 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: not getting things done. 222 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sosa struggled on the last film. Stand sorry Todd, 223 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: no go ahead. But do you think about I mean, 224 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: he's so streaky, you know, but when he's good, he's 225 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: pretty good, and he's pretty Uh, he's like an accelerant, 226 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: you know, he helps, he lifts everything. Do you think 227 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: about giving him a little run at second base? Right 228 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: he's and lefties, I don't, uh, not for me. 229 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: I think that they'll probably going in a tune situation 230 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: with the way they're swinging, because Sosa has not been 231 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 5: swinging it all that well either. And so to me 232 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: as a complimentary type player, and uh, and I do 233 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: believe that he's really really good at at the job 234 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: that he typically does. When he plays more, you know, 235 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 5: I don't think he's as productive. I think he's a 236 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 5: he can add. He's a value act. There's no question 237 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 5: about it. 238 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: You know. 239 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 5: I love the way he plays. I love his energy. 240 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 5: I love he's just been struggling him too. And so 241 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 5: you have a whole bunch of guys who just aren't 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: having putting together good at bats and uh, and that's 243 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 5: problematic when you have that many guys go cold at 244 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 5: this sort of at the same time, and you're just 245 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: not getting any production at all from the fifth or 246 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 5: fifth in or on. 247 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, JT's JT's got a couple of hits. 248 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: He's you know, bouncing back from that injury, the growing injury, 249 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: and you know, he hasn't really been as offensively productive 250 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: as he's been in the past. So so you know, 251 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: when you get past that that fifth hitter in the 252 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: lineup right now, it's it's sort of dead water right now. 253 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: And that's been more than just this these last ten games. 254 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: Has kind of been a season long thing for some 255 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: of those spots. I mean, Scott was was really good 256 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: up through the end of April. Now since the beginning 257 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: in May, Bryson stot is batting one ninety with a 258 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: four ninety six OPS in his last thirty two games 259 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: four ninety six OPS in his last thirty two games. 260 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: Philly's second baseman the season, hitting a combined two sixty 261 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: two six ninety two OPS, has thirteenth to Baseball Now 262 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: here's kind of where it gets batty and talks about 263 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: you talk about the bottom third of the lineup, bottom, 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: you know, bottom four spots in lineup. Phillies left fielders 265 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: this season, Kepler, Wilson, mostly right, are batting a combined 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: two oh four with a six seventy two OPS. 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: And they're platooning those guys. 268 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: It's not like Kepler's facing a bunch of left handed 269 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: pitching and you know they're playing the platoon advantage. That 270 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: OPS six seventy two OPS by Phillies left fielders is 271 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: twenty first in baseball. Let's go to center field now, 272 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: Brandon Marsh and Johann Rojas are hitting combined two twenty 273 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: three with a six oh two OPS. That's twenty sixth 274 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: in baseball. So that's where people start going. Justin Crawford, 275 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: but I agree with you guys like the hamstring issue 276 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 3: right now, you know he's do you want to bring 277 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: them up if he's got a hamstring cramp the last 278 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: few days, missed a few days, Maybe you don't want 279 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: him to go out there and push too hard, blow 280 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: himself out. You don't want him to go up and 281 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: feel like he has to save the team, which is 282 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: kind of I feel like that would be a natural 283 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: reaction for him if he if he got called up 284 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: Right now, J T. Real Muto is betting two twenty 285 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: three with a six forty seven OPS each would be 286 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: career lows. Phillies catchers are hitting it combined two twelve 287 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: with a six twenty nine OPS, which is twenty third 288 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: in baseball. You know, since May one, those four positions 289 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: combined are betting two oh six six fourteen OPS. Only 290 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: the A's and Rockies are getting worse production from those 291 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: four positions than the Phillies. 292 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: So I have to say this about Max Kepler, and 293 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: when I saw him in spring training, I really liked 294 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: to swing. Like the way they started off the season, 295 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: he just looked like he was in a good position 296 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: to have success. I'm not sure if he's I don't 297 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 5: know whether he feels uncomfortable not being in a you know, 298 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: being in a platoon because he's never really platooned and 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: now he's, you know, in the last year or so, 300 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 5: that's you know, he hasn't had the sort of production 301 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: that he's had in the past. I was just I'm 302 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: just surprised that the hasn't been more productive as a 303 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: hitter just from what I saw in the very beginning 304 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: of the season, during the course of the spring. But hey, 305 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 5: this is what happens sometimes, and he's not getting it done, and. 306 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys. But there's a lot of guys. 307 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 5: I mean, he sit there and okay, I'm going to 308 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: point the finger at this guy, and this guy's it's. 309 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Sort of collective in a lot of ways. 310 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 5: There's only really a couple of guys really having the 311 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: types of years that you would expect, and that's Schwarber 312 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 5: and Turner and beyond. Even Bryce Harper has been in 313 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: sort of fits and starts too, hasn't been the Bryce 314 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: Harper that you would expect. So when you only have 315 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: two guys really getting it done at a really super 316 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: high level, and Castianos is probably as far as getting 317 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: hits is the most consistent. 318 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: Boe almost bounced back a little bit. But you're just 319 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: not getting a lot. 320 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 5: Of the slug and production and run production other than 321 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 5: from two guys, and that's not going to be able 322 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: to get it done in a lineup that needs nine hitters. 323 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: You mentioned a platoon that maybe it doesn't sit well 324 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: or Kepler might be having tough time adjusting to it. 325 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: You don't want to be in a platoon. Go out 326 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: and have about two two and a half three good 327 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: weeks and force their end. 328 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: To play a play by producing no question. 329 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: And that's the same thing with Start to Everybody. You know, 330 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: everybody wanted start to uh to play every day, but 331 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: including me. 332 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we talked about it. 333 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I believe in this kid, and I should have. 334 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: Been every day. 335 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: But but but he hasn't. He hasn't been getting it done, 336 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: and it needs to change because you know, they all 337 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 5: need to be better. 338 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: Platoons are usually a default setting because something's going wrong 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: in the attempt to play the guy every day. 340 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Right right, we we'll be right back. 341 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 6: This one's easy for us to talk about. I'm a 342 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 6: huge fan of Hunger Rout. 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Never had somebody never has there been 372 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: a Manco and Manco like this one. No, this is 373 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 3: gonna be I don't think anybody had this in mind 374 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: when we decided to do Manco and Manco Best Week. 375 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: Manco Manco Best Week, of course, because Manco Manco is 376 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: the best of the best. Is where we pick our 377 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: best Phillies player play, performance, whatever we choose from the 378 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: past week. 379 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: I have somebody in mind, but it's a little bit good. 380 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: There's not really much on the player side, so I 381 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: was gonna say Otto Camp getting promoted to the big 382 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: leagues finally, a long journey to the big leagues. A 383 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: great story for those that don't know. He was undrafted 384 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: at a Division two point Noma Nazarene University in twenty 385 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: twenty two. You know, you think about guys getting being undrafted, 386 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: signing as undrafted free agents and then making it all 387 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: the way to the big leagues and hit at every level, 388 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: and so it's nice to see auto Camp finally get 389 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: that opportunity to get that call and join the Phillies 390 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: this week. And who knows where it goes. Maybe he 391 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: starts seeing some time in left field. I don't know, 392 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: you know, maybe he gets a little bit of playing 393 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: time here as the teams as the team struggles. But 394 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: a cool story for the Phillies and a great story 395 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 3: for Auto Camp. I mean you go from I mean 396 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: he's talked about this not being drafted, going I don't know, 397 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: like do I, how does this work? Do I do 398 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: I sign with somebody? Like my baseball career over He 399 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: signs with the Phillies Boom. A few years later he's 400 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: in the big league. So outo camp manco Manco best week. 401 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: That's a great one. 402 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: And uh and I will say I got a chance 403 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 5: to talk to him a little bit. 404 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: I didn't talk to him a. 405 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: Whole lot during the course of spring training, but I 406 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 5: got a chance to chat with him, just briefly. 407 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: And I congratulate him. He is a wonderful. 408 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 5: Kid, just a really really good kid and effort that 409 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: from other people in the organization. Grinder plays hard, runs 410 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 5: pretty well. He's not, you know, not necessarily a base dealer, 411 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: but he's stole some bases over the course of his career. 412 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 5: Had eleven bags I think, and only two caught stealings 413 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: so far this year in Triple A. 414 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: But he does some. 415 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: Things back to the ball, has some power opposite way. 416 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: He can do some things offensively. Now will it translate 417 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 5: into the major leagues, I don't know, but it's nice 418 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 5: to give him an opportunity. It's a great call toalk who. 419 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: Got you boy? 420 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: It's a tough one. I might go with Teed Davis, 421 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: Ben Davis's son point. That's a nice college. 422 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: They're going to a College World Series. 423 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: Slugging first basement from the University of Louisville, headed to 424 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: Omaha for the College World Series. But you know, how 425 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 4: about Mick abel Uh? 426 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, good one, great good outing in. 427 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: Toronto, second big league start, just opening some eyes and 428 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: continuing what has been really good turnaround season where I 429 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: think obviously he's shown a lot of physical ability, but 430 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: you knew you knew he had that when he was 431 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 4: the first round pick. I think he's just shown a 432 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of moxie and a lot of character, 433 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: digging himself out of a really difficult season last year, 434 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: putting himself on the back, on the back on the map, 435 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: and becoming a legit contributor. 436 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: So I go with mckabele hasn't walked the matter yet. 437 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 438 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 5: That is an amazing that's the most amazing thing. I mean, 439 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 5: he's handled himself with great poise and great maturity. Another 440 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: wonderful kid, super signing. You know, I'm gonna go with 441 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: Christopher Sanchez, man. I think Christopher Sanchez has really thrown 442 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: the ball well, and he deserved to win the baseball 443 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: game yesterday against Paul Skins, and it was a really 444 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 5: terrific game. He picks up the l because you know, 445 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 5: they threw him out there to try to get O'Neil 446 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 5: Cruz out there, which made sense and was the right 447 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 5: thing to do. He had handled O'Neil Cruise so well. 448 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: He looked made him, I mean, arrest the guy for 449 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 5: three at bats and then he walks him on four 450 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 5: straight pitches. But I mean sixty seven strikes h in 451 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 5: his last down seven innings, two runs, two walks in 452 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 5: nine nine punch outs, and then you know, the game 453 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: before he didn't have his best stuff, but he kept 454 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 5: them in the game. 455 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: So he's backed up, you know, two pretty damn good. 456 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 5: Games against Toronto and Pittsburgh that probably deserved you know, 457 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 5: he did win that game, but probably deserved to win 458 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 5: two games. And I'm going to stay with Christopher Sanchez 459 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: as my manco Benko best of the Week. 460 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: We challenged ourselves and we came up with it. 461 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did fed Ranger and Ranger Suarez. He should 462 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: get a He should also get a hitch. 463 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 5: Well again, he pitched really really well also, and he 464 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 5: deserves an an honorable mention as well. 465 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 466 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: All good choices, All good choices. 467 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 3: Jim, you mentioned something at the top of the show. 468 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: About Bryce Harper his wrist. 469 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 3: And I thought I had the same thought that came 470 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: in my head. 471 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, wrist. 472 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: He just missed you know, five games six days and 473 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: he plays three games in Toronto, and it's like, yeah, 474 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: this risk has really been bothering me. And the troubling 475 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: thing to me was that he I mean, we know 476 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: he had a risk thing last year, but he said 477 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: the pain did not really he didn't feel pain free 478 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: until December. And I'm sitting there going, oh boy, okay, 479 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: well is what exactly is going on here? This is 480 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: concerning to me if they have to shut him down 481 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 3: mid season and this is something that lingered. I mean 482 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: they were knocked out, you know, mid October, and so 483 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: he still felt something in his wrist for a month 484 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: and a half after the season started. I mean, how 485 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: how worried, how concerned, how troubled are you by what's 486 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: going on with Bryce's wrist? 487 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: Very very for the timelines you just laid out, you know, 488 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: if they're talking about in it right now and seeing 489 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: if it'll quote unquote calm down. He just had six 490 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: days arrest after you get hit by Strider. He had 491 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 4: the off season and it lingered and it popped back 492 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: up this year. When things keep recurring like that, you're like, Okay, 493 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: what's going on? Does it have to be addressed surgically? 494 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: And you know that leads to a you know, the 495 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: question when will he be back in this season twenty 496 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 4: twenty five? How long will it be? Can they survive 497 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: without him? They've played over injuries in the last few years. 498 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 4: But you know, I always hear the cliche next man up, 499 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: and it's a great characteristic to have, but it has limits. 500 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: And this guy's an important piece on this team well. 501 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 5: Particularly because of the rest of the team's not swinging 502 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 5: the bat all that well, and so you really need 503 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 5: him to add some production. 504 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm concerned too. 505 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: I mean I talked to you, used to talk to 506 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 5: Pat yellig about this all the time. Risks with a 507 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: hitter and back with a hitter, they're tricky and you 508 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 5: just never know, know, you know, what can be happening 509 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 5: there I mean, I remember Jason Worth was like a 510 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 5: big deal when Jason Worth went down with the Dodgers, 511 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: and we kept really kept an eye on and Pat 512 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: did and you know, did a lot of research on 513 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 5: what was going on. 514 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: They finally fixed the wrist, but it. 515 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: Almost ended his career, his career. 516 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: And he bounced back. 517 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 5: So I don't think it's as serious as that They've 518 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: done the MRIs, they've done the studies. 519 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem at least to be too serious. 520 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: But maybe this is the right time to calm it 521 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: down and make sure that he's okay for the rest 522 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: of the season. 523 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Will that? Will that happen? 524 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 5: Can you guarantee that with a guy who swings as 525 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: violently as violently as he does, because he's a really 526 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 5: aggressive swinger, I mean, he doesn't hold back a whole lot. 527 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: And is this the right time to calm it down? 528 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 5: Probably hopefully it gets calmed down and it's not an issue, 529 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 5: But you never know. 530 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: And the elephant in the room is and Rubin, you 531 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: lived this, We covered it. Guys getting north of thirty, 532 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: they get to be thirty two, thirty three, and these 533 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 4: injuries they just pop up and health becomes such a 534 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: huge factor in keeping a team together and then having 535 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: a winning team. We saw it, you know with utly 536 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: with Howard when they started breaking down with Doc Holliday. 537 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: And you know, Bryce is getting these nagging injuries or 538 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 4: even maybe a little more than nagging. It seems like 539 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 4: every year. And he's I. 540 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Don't think he's played a full season in the last 541 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: four or five years. 542 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: And he's played one hundred and sixty games or one 543 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: hundred fifty games in the last four or five years. 544 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: And how many years has he been He's you know, 545 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: he's young, he's only thirty two, but. 546 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 5: Like, but he's got some mileage because he's played since 547 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: he was nineteen nineteen. 548 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: A real his odometer is high. And he's got how 549 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: many years left? Six years left on this deal, and 550 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: he's so important. I mean, it's just, you know, big 551 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: picture wise, it's a concern. 552 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think talent wise, he's still sort of at 553 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: the peak of his career, but as far as his 554 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 5: health is concerned, maybe not the peak. 555 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: Right bian Howard was at the peak of his production 556 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he wasn't because he 557 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: got hurt. Suddenly was at the peak of his production. 558 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, he wasn't because the news look 559 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: like that. 560 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: Right, You're right, So it's it's it's something definitely. 561 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody's going to be watching this, you know, 562 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: trying to get any sort of you know, listen to 563 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: everything that comes out of his mouth over the next 564 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: few weeks in terms of his recovery, how the risk 565 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: is feeling. You know, they'll be asking Rob Thompson every 566 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: day how the risk is feeling. Ununderstandably so because if 567 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: he's this thing lingers or he comes back and you know, 568 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 3: he goes back one and you know, I think everybody, 569 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: of course is their head is going into those dark 570 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: places because everything else is so dark right now in 571 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 3: terms of what's going on with the team, you know. 572 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 5: So the one thing you don't want to do in 573 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: this situation though, is a waste of pitching, because the 574 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: pitching is really good as far as the starting pitching 575 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 5: is concerned. And once Wheeler's back, he's pitching tonight. Congratulations, 576 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 5: he and Dominie having their fourth i think their fourth kid, 577 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 5: third or fourth? 578 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: Am I right? 579 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: Fourth? 580 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty cool? 581 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 5: But you know, getting all the back and then you 582 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: you create that depth that you needed and remember we 583 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 5: were talking about depth, and all of a sudden boom, 584 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: three or four things happen. And now now you're going 585 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 5: down to get nick Abel and Lozardo's struggling and they 586 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: got us straighten him out. And that's going to be 587 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: a fascinating start on Wednesday to. 588 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: See how he mounts back. 589 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: I will be fascinated by it, to see what tweaks 590 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 5: that they make, whether it's tipping pitches or not tipping pitches, 591 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 5: or too flat with his fastball, or. 592 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, arm angle, whatever the case may be. 593 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: And I'm sure they're doing everything to to try to 594 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 5: avoid that and to try to get him back on 595 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: track he was in the early part of the season. 596 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: You mentioned the good pitching. Can't waste good pitching. So 597 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: they've lost five in a row, three of them score 598 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: of two to one. 599 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Right, that's wasting good pitching. 600 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 3: That is wasting good pitching. And you know the bullpen. 601 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: Speaking of the bullpen, we haven't really talked about that. 602 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: I was looking at some of their numbers, but you know, 603 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: last several weeks, man, they've been a strikeout rate is 604 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: way down, the walk where rate is up, so that 605 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: you know they've been putting too many guys on base, 606 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: not striking out enough guys, so you see those little 607 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: bloopers going to the outfield and they lose the game. 608 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: So we've been talking about a lot of like you know, 609 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: doom and gloom, so to speak. But I was thinking 610 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: about something yesterday watching Paul Skins pitch and this is 611 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: not going to happen, But just as a thought exercise, 612 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: there's been a few stories written lately nationally about would 613 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: the Pirates trade Paul Skiings And the Pirates have said, 614 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: we're not going to trade Paul Skins. But it's natural 615 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: to think that way, right because they're they're not They're 616 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: a bad organization. Up until bad they've been a bad team. 617 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: But just hypothetically, if you were to call the Pirates 618 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: Reuben Jim and say your ownership said, I don't care 619 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: what you gotta do. 620 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: You got to go out and get Paul Skins. 621 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: I want Paul Skins. 622 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: Your job is on the line. 623 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: What kind of package would you have to put together 624 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 3: to convince the Pirates to say, okay, we will do this. 625 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: Well, it'd have to start with Painter or Able or both, 626 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 5: and then you and then you're talking about Aiden Miller 627 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 5: and Crawford. 628 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: You're talking about all three all you know, three of 629 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: those guys. He's that good. He's the best pitcher in baseball. 630 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's where it would start. 631 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 4: Okay, what would would you if you you were the 632 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: GM of the Phillies, would you give up Abel Miller 633 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: and Crawford for Paul Skeins? Right now? 634 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I would. I probably that would, just because I'm backing 635 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: the pitching. 636 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 5: And listen, I know it just kills your depth overall, 637 00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: and you're, uh, but if I'm the GM, I would serve. 638 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Do it because he's that good. 639 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: And if I'm good, and if and if you lose 640 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: him and he gets hurt, maybe lose him for a year, 641 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: you still have him under control for another four years. 642 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Four years. 643 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: So but if I'm Pittsburgh, I go, I don't want Able. 644 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: I want Andrew Painter. 645 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: So there you go, right. 646 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: I was just thinking of that this because there have 647 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: been those stories written about, you know. 648 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 5: And I would consider it, and I would consider it, 649 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 5: but I just don't think it's gonna happen. No, Listen, 650 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: you're basically basically blowing out your entire system, and you 651 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 5: want to have some sustainability later on, and you're hoping 652 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 5: that Crawford can be a piece, and you're hoping that 653 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 5: Aiden Miller can be, you know, a piece, and Aidan 654 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: Miller is starting to come around and play much better lately, 655 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 5: starting to get his feet more accustomed to being double A. 656 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: So you know, again, they're prospects. They're not major league players. 657 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: Their prospects still right, and they seem to think that 658 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: Andrew Painter can be maybe not Paul Skins level, but 659 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: that he would be really, really, really good. So if 660 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: you if you really really really believe that, then maybe 661 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: he could be. Yeah, and he could be. He could be, 662 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: So then maybe you hold on to those guys. 663 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: So I asked conversely, if you were the manager GM 664 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: of the Pirates, would that be enough for you? 665 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: Would not? Yeah? 666 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: You you really would not be enough with all the 667 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: team control that Paul Skens has, you know, and just 668 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: knowing his stature in the game, and you know. 669 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: I would not. I would not give him up for 670 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: those three players. 671 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need you would need more. 672 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 3: You would want more, correct, Yeah, maybe somebody off the 673 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: big league roster, maybe in. 674 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 5: Somebody that had some control over who's already producing at 675 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: the major league level. 676 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: And then a two or three pieces beyond that. Yeah, 677 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: do you think what I would? That's what I would 678 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: be looking for. 679 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: Do you think and this, I don't know, maybe this 680 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 4: is a dumb question, but do you think the commissioner 681 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: would step in and say, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 682 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: what are you doing here? 683 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I would not. I do not think he would. 684 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: He hasn't stepped in another situation, so I don't think 685 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: he would. Now, Yeah, he hasn't stepped in. He didn't 686 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: step in when when the Dodgers did the deferrals. 687 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: That's true. 688 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 4: I mean it was I remember when I was a kid. 689 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: They but Charlie Finley was like selling off guys. But 690 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: that's a different scenario. But it just seems to me, 691 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: you draft a guy like Paul Skeins and that can 692 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 4: excite a town that needs some baseball excitement and be 693 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: awfully sad to trade a. 694 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: Guy like Oh, it would be a sad state of it. 695 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think I'm not gonna I'm the one 696 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: to throw stones. 697 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: But Pirates have sort of struggled to to draft the 698 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 5: kind of quality that they needed over the last like 699 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 5: ten twelve years. I mean, and they and they've had 700 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 5: high picks for a while and they haven't really fortified. 701 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 5: They've done pretty well with the pitching, but as far 702 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 5: as offensive players just really haven't been able to hit 703 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: on them. 704 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: Be ashamed to waste, waste some of Paul Skean's good years. 705 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: How big would he be in Philly? Would he be 706 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: bigger than Jalen Hurts? 707 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: Paul paulks be massive? 708 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: He lit, Yeah, because he's got he's got the partner 709 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: and live you know, so he's got that, and they 710 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 5: got much bigger market. 711 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, much bigger market, he's I mean, and 712 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: he's just so fricking good and he's so much fun 713 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 3: to watch. 714 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: He's really good. 715 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 5: He's got really dominant and he's got seven pitches that 716 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 5: he can go to that are really dominant pitches. I mean, 717 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: he's got he's literally got five double plus pitches. And 718 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 5: when you have five double plus pitches, man, it's that 719 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 5: that's a tough arsenal. 720 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: To deal with when you're hitting. 721 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably the only guy that I mean, I 722 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: didn't say the only guy in baseball, but he would 723 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: give in terms of star power in the city on 724 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 3: the Phillies, he would give Bryce a run for his money. 725 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, he would. 726 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: A lot of because you'd be a perennial Cy Young 727 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Award candidate. Yeah, as long as he stayed healthy. 728 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: Right throws a hunt you all for all those reasons, 729 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 3: all those reasons anyway, So it ain't happening. 730 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: But I was thinking about it yesterday, like, what would 731 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: the Philla drink? 732 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: They would lose more, They would lose more two to 733 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: one games. 734 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: Right now, they would. But you know, he's already had 735 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: a great point, James is a great point. 736 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: He's already used to that in Pittsburgh Gym. 737 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: So I don't think it would phase him one bet. 738 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: He just keep going out there and putting up, putting 739 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: up twos and ones. So the Phillies opened a three 740 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: three game series on Monday night against the Cubs. Monday 741 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: night lefty Cubs lefty Matthew Boyd against Zach Wheelers, six 742 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: forty five start. Tuesday is right hander Colin Ray against 743 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 3: Mickabel Macabel getting his third start in the Big Leads. 744 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 3: That's a six to forty five start, and then the 745 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: series finale on Wednesday after noon. 746 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: This is a big one. 747 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: They're all big, but Ben Brown against hayzus Lozardo. They 748 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: need Hazeuselazarda to bounce back in a major, major way. 749 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward tonight because I want to see Ben 750 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 4: Brown pitch. Former Phillies farm hand from Long Island, New York. Yeah, good, 751 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: good kid, good kid, came back from Tommy John Surgery, 752 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 4: real hard worker. They traded for David robertson. 753 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, that was David Roberts. 754 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 4: And I'll just point this out. So I was our 755 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 4: good buddy, John Brazier. He does he does a spot 756 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 4: on the pregame show of the radio pregame show with 757 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: the Phillies like once a week. And do you remember 758 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: when Fergie Jenkins was in town for Jackie Robinson's day. Obviously, 759 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: Phillies traded him to the Cubs. They traded Ben Brown 760 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: to the Cubs. But Jenkins sees a lot of the Cubs, 761 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 4: I guess, and and or no, I guess they were 762 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 4: talking about Jenkins watches a lot of baseball, Fergie Jenkins 763 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: and and and and Brazier said, any one young player 764 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 4: that you see around the game excite you. And he 765 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: without hesitation, said Ben Brown. So that was an interesting, 766 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 4: interesting connection between the two with the trade and all. 767 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: But I mean, the guy's good, good baseball eyes. So 768 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 4: Brown a big, tall right hander, a lot of a 769 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 4: lot of talent, So I'm looking forward to seeing what 770 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: he looks like. But more importantly for the Phillies, heyes, 771 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 4: Houstlzarto needs to calm everybody down a little bit. 772 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 5: He'd liked I like him, have him calmed me down 773 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 5: to a little bit. 774 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: I really like this kid. 775 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 5: I really believe in him and hopefully can bounce back 776 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: and figure out what's been ailing on. 777 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: Guys that can only go up from here. We think, 778 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: we think, well, we'll be back. 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