00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I am already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:46 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. If you were thinking you were going to be listening to another podcast right now, I'm sorry. That's fine. I'll give you a minute to gather your things and go, but if you feel like sticking around, I'm still here. I'm about to introduce our guests, and we're gonna have an hour or so of just sheer joy. We're all going to have a good time. Our guest is so funny. It's Jimmy Oyang, Jimmy. Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:26 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me. This is also a very chill podcast. Your voice is very soothing. 00:01:34 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to try to just ramp up the stress as quickly as possible. Okay, good, and just turn this into a real high tension nightmare for everyone. 00:01:44 Speaker 3: It's going to be very confusing, like neurologically, because your voice is so chill. But if you act really erratically and turn this very uncomfortable, I might just have a stroke. 00:01:55 Speaker 2: I want the guest and I want the listener to just be on a roller coaster. I want whiplash, just an absolute nightmare for everyone. But audio wise, if you had it in the background, you would just think that it was a peaceful conversation. 00:02:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: But the first thing I need to ask you about is I feel like, are you planning to paint the room you're in? 00:02:17 Speaker 3: Yes? I have these paint patches from Nonetheless a Feral and Ball, you know, the best paint game in the business. Oh wow, so I have this is my office right here. I have a Hague blue the nimes in the middle, and then I think it's called Hry blue or something like that. It's more of a green blue. We're trying to make a lot of decisions, a lot of patches around my house right now. I also have pain on my hand, you know that. I just I just plant painted a closet. 00:02:44 Speaker 2: Have you been painting today? 00:02:46 Speaker 3: Yeah? I love painting. It's my thing. Really, It's completely a waste of my time, Like my time is worth way more than you know. Painting walls, but I enjoy it quite a lot. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: Are you planning to paint the entire house yourself? 00:02:58 Speaker 3: The house is already painted, as you can see, just like a basic white color. I'm just trying to jazz up a couple of accent walls, make my bedroom a little warmer, and you know certain things like I guess bathrooms and stuff like that. 00:03:10 Speaker 2: Right right, And so with these current three colors behind you, are you leaning towards one? I mean, I definitely have a preference, but I'm not going to tell you no. 00:03:17 Speaker 3: No, I want to hear your preference because I've been looking at these for so long. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: I mean through the crystal clear HD zoom screen I'm looking at. I'm going to go with the one that's currently over your right shoulder. I believe this is just right there. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the one I like too. That's the I cherry blue itra. I don't know how to call it the green blue. I want to do this in my bedroom. 00:03:41 Speaker 2: I think it's a very pleasant color. Now, are you a self taught wall painter? 00:03:46 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I would say so. I'm not that good yet. So I just started painting little trims around my house and then a pharaoh and ball. They recommend that I use a primer of their own, like their stuff is just so, it's like eighty as a primer, and then one hundred and twenty bucks or a can of paint. They say, one code of primer or two codes of paint or you're gonna regret it and you're not going to get the true color. 00:04:10 Speaker 2: Wow. They really just run their business through fear. 00:04:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, they doo, as do all high end retail I guess, but very very nice people in there. Man. I just go in there and hang out sometimes it's very calming. 00:04:23 Speaker 2: I love paint. I love the paint samples, but the idea of painting anything in my home is mortifying to me. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: I think the big rooms, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to my painter. I got this guy, Marvin, He's amazing. But the little stuff, I'm going to try to tackle my girlfriend just like a little project, you know, and then if we botch it, I can always call Marvin Bank. 00:04:51 Speaker 2: I think it sounds very soothing if you're like, look at it that way. I just I don't look at anything in a soothing way, so it's difficult. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, little do you know that that these three patches has been on my walls and every single wall in my house for about a month, So this is these are not. So it's just very hard to make a decision. 00:05:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I would probably get to the point of having three spots on my wall, and then it would be four years would pass, I would realize I have to move out of my home. We would just paint white over them again, and I would get out of there. 00:05:23 Speaker 3: See. My dream is to be on like a fixer upper like Joanna Gains, like that type of show on HGTV. I come home blindfolded, you know, they reveal what they've done, and then I just cry, you know. I mean, like that's my dream. But I don't think that's realistic because I'm too like Picky. I'm too like Nitpicky. So like I would, I would say, oh my god, this is amazing, and then a month and I'm like, man, I should have done it this way. Why didn't you move the island out three more inches? That color is fucking weird. It's just a never ending process, you know. I mean, like I just cannot be pleased. 00:05:57 Speaker 2: I so you when you say crying, you would want to come up. It would be like a. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: Happy crush, Tiers of Joy, Tiers of Joy. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to be on one of those shows. They pulled the blindfold off me and I have a complete just freak out, just to melt down on camera. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be great. 00:06:15 Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't seen that in a home renovation show where the person's furious. 00:06:19 Speaker 3: I told you I don't want a fucking island. Why did you open up all my walls? Lady, I don't want green tiles in my bathroom. Fuck you man, you ruin my life. But you know what, but here's the thing. They at least make it nice, like generically nice to some degree. That and it's always starts out as such a shithole. So even if you don't like it personally, you can always sell it and you can make a ton of money. And I also wonder who pays for those shows. The homeowner actually pays half and then I don't know, it seems like a great lottery ticket. 00:06:50 Speaker 2: I have recently. I think I was talking to somebody about this recently. What is it house Hunter's Renovations. I believe it's what it's called. I was like, why would you go on that show if they weren't going to pay for your house to be renovated. Apparently they according to someone not a great source, I imagine, but they said that they do pay for the renovation, which is like, oh, okay. 00:07:11 Speaker 3: Now I see it's amazing. Yeah, but you know a lot. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: Of these shows are you know, it's all so phony, Like house Hunters is all phony. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: It's just is it right? Is it fake? Are these shows fake? 00:07:23 Speaker 2: House Hunters? You have to have purchased the home before you go on the show. You have to be like closing on it. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how did you know this? This? This is some real tea for me? This is shocking. 00:07:36 Speaker 2: This was my adult Santa Claus moment where it's like the magic is gone. 00:07:41 Speaker 1: It is. 00:07:42 Speaker 2: I don't know why anyone agrees to go on that show. They're not looking for houses. I guess they think it might be a gateway to fame. 00:07:48 Speaker 3: I don't know, you sound like the people it's like talking about Bachelor. I don't know why people are on the show. They're obviously not there for love. I don't know. Yeah, I guess for fame, and they probably get paid like a couple of grands maybe already help out with like they give you five thousand dollars in renovation credit or something like that. 00:08:06 Speaker 2: There's got to be some some upside to it. Otherwise you're everyone hates the people on House Centers. We're watching it because we're so annoyed by everyone on the show. 00:08:16 Speaker 3: I know, I do like the fixer shows because they always well, it's also pretty low stakes, not not for the actual couples involved, but to us who live in LA where real estate's very expensive, and like it's like a couple in Nashville or like where are they in fix the uppera They're in Waco, Texas houses like fifty grand. It's like, oh whatever, if she focks it up, she fucks it up, Like who cares. It's fifty grand of a house and you can always sell it. And the thing is the renovation costs more in the home sometimes, right, Oh yeah, I mean Chip and Joanna are just out of control and logistically as TV producers, isn't that like a really hard show to do because you got to wait six months of renovation for an episode or are they just doing five projects at the same time. 00:09:07 Speaker 2: My thought is they're doing extremely shoddy work. They've put together a house in a weekend. It probably after they're done filming immediately begins to fall apart. 00:09:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not up to code or anything. It just falls off. 00:09:21 Speaker 2: Half of these houses have I'm like, sunk into the ground or collapsed on a family. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: It's so crazy. I couldn't even get my contractor to come fix a pocket door for six months. Six months. They're waiting for the part. The park got lost, the guy got COVID, he couldn't come, and then his father died on me. I feel like he's just a pathological liar at this point. And he has my pocket door hardware and it hasn't came. He hasn't came into install it for six months, and Joanna Gaines and Chip bills six houses in six months. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: It's coming for them. Eventually, this is going to catch up to them. I think these two look for legal reason and who knows what This is all speculation on my part. I've only want to get. 00:10:05 Speaker 3: Shoot for like a slander on the great names of the gains is. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: Ship and Joanna build quality products at affordable prices. They've changed America for the better, and they obviously love each other. That's what I'll say. 00:10:21 Speaker 3: Thank you, and your next guest join. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: Against Joanna Welcome to I said, no, Jimmy, I feel like your entire life. I mean, from my perspective of seeing it on Instagram or whatever, it feels like your every day's your birthday. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's very nice. That's the best compliment I can have. 00:10:41 Speaker 2: I feel like you're someone who just is constantly enjoying themselves. Is that true? 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Oh well, that is definitely an image I portray on Instagram, just like everyone else, you know. But I do enjoy myself quite a lot, honestly. Like I didn't mind a pandemic, you know, it was fine. I a lot more time at home painting walls, and uh, it's cool, like you know, I just I just take it as it comes to me. I do find myself complaining a lot. But I'm practicing how to be more grateful, because even maybe every day is a birthday, maybe my life is super blessed, and I don't I take for granted sometimes, you know, But yes, yes I am, I am. I am blessed. I'm a blessed man. 00:11:22 Speaker 2: What's something you've done recently you've really enjoyed, Oh, work wise or anything, anything, Probably not work wise. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: I mean, let's not talk about work. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: You know, we'll get to we'll get to work at some point in this conversation. But I feel like you're, like, at some point you were in Las Vegas in the last little while. I feel like you're eating just delicious food, no stop. 00:11:42 Speaker 3: I love eating. I love cooking. Recently I got into gardening, which is very enjoyable, very very enjoyable. 00:11:49 Speaker 2: What are what sort of gardening are we talking about here? 00:11:52 Speaker 3: I'm a veggie patch that I grew some tomatoes. I have some Thai chili peppers that my friend's wife gave me. Also my friend, you know, my friend's wife is also my friend. Very progressive of you. Yeah, I got some basil, I got some hobnarow that's coming in. And I also have a flower bed and I planted some marigold that I bought from home depot and it's thriving. It's doing great. So I'm getting a lot of joy seeing all of these things every morning. 00:12:24 Speaker 2: Oh this sounds lovely. Yeah, let me give you a tip. Never plant mint. Have you ever dealt with mint in a garden? 00:12:31 Speaker 3: Oh? You know what. The house in my backyard and it has some mint. I never planted it, but it's there. What's the problem with mint? 00:12:38 Speaker 2: It is the most insidious plant I have ever witnessed. It takes over every space. I mean, if you want a ton of mint, go for it. My entire vegetable garden is essentially mint in. 00:12:50 Speaker 3: This It's a weed, right, Yeah, It's just. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: Like a really nice smelling weed. It looks good. But like the amount of mint I'm producing could have a factory. 00:13:01 Speaker 3: Which is not bad. Well, but the thing is, how many mohitos could you drink? Like basil, you can always make pesto, like it takes a lot of good basil to make pesto. Mint is very limiting, you know, I'm not sure. 00:13:14 Speaker 2: There are so few things. 00:13:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, mohitos dessert. I guess you can like make a key lime pie with some mint or something. I don't know. I'm not a big mint guy. 00:13:22 Speaker 2: I will say in about twenty eighteen, I discovered mint in a somebody put mint in a chicken salad and it was delicious. It was like, Wow, I'd never thought. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: Of this, But it's such a strong herb. You use like five leaves mats in a salad. You know. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: Could I make homemade gum. That's the big question. Has anybody ever attempted to make a homemade I mean, I guess gums started somewhere in somebody's house. It wasn't in the regulars factory to begin with. 00:13:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you need a lot of weird chemical ingredients like a horse hoof or something, and then boil it down. That's jelly, that's jello. But I'm sure there's some gelatin stuff inside of gum. 00:14:02 Speaker 2: There has to be gelatin and gum. Yeah, I don't know. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: But I've been eating a lot of tied chili. It's been really coming in. And that's the great thing about growing certain things like basil and chili, because you don't you don't need that every day, right, Like I feel like it's kind of futile to grow like bell peppers because you just go down to the market and get a very large one for ninety nine cents and you're gonna yield what like five a year from a plant, and it's you just eat it. It's super quick, it's it's I don't know, I feel like it's not worth it. But if you can't grow like tied chilies, each little plant comes to literally like fifty and then you can eat like to a day and you don't have to use it a lot. You know, that's the perfect type of stuff to grow. What are you putting these chilies in everything? I had like instant ramen yesterday. I just chopped up two chilies put it in. I actually learned that I was filming something in Fiji, and I always ask for hot sauce and a rest. They don't have a lot of hot sauce, but they'll always always give you a dish of just like chopped chili, which is great, so fresh. You mix it with like in a salad and rice, even on top of a steak with shrimp. 00:15:13 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so good, phenomenal. And now you've just got it growing in your backyard. 00:15:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all happening. But I think it is so so ty chili. You know, it's like green and red. So it starts off green and then it turns red, and then I think it goes bad or it just gets a little stale. So I have a lot of red ones now that I'm kind of concerned. I'm not sure. Maybe I'll dehydrate them and make chili flakes. I don't know. Freeze them, put them in the fridge. I'm not sure freeze them. Yeah, I've never had a frozen chili before. Well, I'm I'm guessing maybe you've had it. They just thought it out. 00:15:51 Speaker 2: I don't want to know if I have ever had a frozen chili. Yeah, rather just live in ignorance, they don't think. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: I don't think they have to advertise chili like the advertised salmon, like never frozen, wild caught, you know, chili's. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe it's time to start taking some chilis to your neighbors or something. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: Ooh maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just COVID. I haven't really hung out with my neighbors. They have a couple of very young kids. I don't think they've been vaccinated. Not that I don't want to hang out with them, but no, who knows. Like I'm fully vaccinated. I got COVID already, so like, I'm very I'm good you had COVID. Yeah, man, after I got two doses of maderna. That's when you saw me. I was in Vegas doing a show for the opening of a resort world and I was like, oh, man, I got the vaccine. I'm invincible. And then of course I came back and I got the Belta Barian. 00:16:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, was it horrible. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: It wasn't too bad, luckily, because I got vaccinated. Right. If I didn't get vaccinated, it could have been really bad. But I was just very congested. It felt like, you know, I had like a big allergy attack. All right, no fever, no nothing. But after like the fourth day, I completely lost a sense of taste and smell. 00:17:06 Speaker 2: How long did that last? 00:17:07 Speaker 3: That lasts about four days, but you don't know, like I thought it would have lasted, like it could have lasted like two months. I don't know. I was panicking, you know, as much as I love food, Oh. 00:17:17 Speaker 2: That would be that to me. I mean, outside of death, which is obviously a bad thing, the losing your sense of taste and smell, just what's the point of moving on in life? 00:17:29 Speaker 3: There were like a day where I was like, what if this never comes back? Like, am I okay just going on? I'll probably lose a lot of weight. You know. I found myself hungry all the time because I just didn't eat that much. I don't have that urge to fill up on really yummy food, so I would try to eat healthy, but then I got salads and stuff. But then I'm like this, even when I don't have a sense of taste, it still tastes like shit, just a wet leaves. It's just wet, it's cold, it's it's you know, it's like it's rough. So I don't know, like I think Tay three, I ate popeyes even though I didn't have a sense of taste, I'm like, you know, what, fuck it. At least it is warm and crunchy. Like you forget how much food about food is not really about the taste. Sure, mostly six seventy percent is about taste, maybe fifty only fifty percent is about taste, and the rest is about texture, temperature, and visual you know, the rest of your brain working. And that was a very interesting discovery. And I was actually making very beautiful looking food that was bland. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: Like what like a beautiful bowl of oatmeal, Like I. 00:18:40 Speaker 3: Made like a personal shabou pot like a hot pot with like wag you beef, with like little yellow diicons, which I wouldn't put in a hot pop but it just look beautiful, some kimchi stuff like that. So it's just like a rainbow of color. It looked beautiful, but I don't I don't know how it taste. It probably tasted okay, you know, but I couldn't tell. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: So you were just overcompensating for the fact that you weren't going to be. 00:19:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the visual. Yeah, for the lack of taste, I overcome, say, with visual and warmth and texture. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like in that time, you brothy type things are probably a good idea. 00:19:13 Speaker 3: Just hot liquids, yeah, exactly. Probably clear are your sinuses and stuff. It was so weird the night that I lost taste, right, I was like, oh, let me, I've lost taste before. My sinus is super clogged, you know, like everyone has, I think, so I was trying to blow out my nose. I pulled out the netty potty. I want to take a hot shower. But it's just nothing like my nose. I was so raw from blowing it out. Just nothing. I was like, oh my god, like as if somebody like snit my neural pathways. It was. It was scary. 00:19:43 Speaker 2: That is horrifying. Let me ask you, when you get like a sinus infection or whatever, you lose sense of taste and smell, or when I have it. Everything tastes like an attic to me, like. 00:19:55 Speaker 3: Old musting interesting. Interesting. I'm sure, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's different ways of it. Like a lot of times it's just everything just tasting mucus. I guess as gross as that sounds, you know, yeah, just shrowning in your own mucus. 00:20:11 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm glad you made it through. I'm glad you were vaccinated. That was for sure. I mean, if only for this podcast booking, if we had lost you to COVID, that would have been really a devastating thing for this podcast. 00:20:24 Speaker 3: So we wouldn't have been able to talk about TV. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: Right Where would any of us be at this point? But speaking of this podcast and you know, neighborly things and this kind of thing. Uh, the podcast is called I said No Gifts, And you know you and I share a mutual friend in Jessica Goo Jes. Wonderful comedy writer. 00:20:48 Speaker 3: Emmy winning comedy writer Will Tickle Rick. 00:20:52 Speaker 2: And an excellent person to go out to dinner with. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: This current showrunner of She Hulk. Sorry, she's also my business partner. Talker up. That's yeah. Excellent, excellent dinner guest. 00:21:02 Speaker 2: And also a proud cost go member, but she introduced us, and you're the reason you're here on this podcast, and I think she probably at some point in talking to you, mentioned that the podcast is called I said no Gifts, and so I was excited you were going to be here. I was so happy. And then I believe it was yesterday, I came out of my office to see my boyfriend receiving a package at the door and then closing it and from a masked figure, obviously COVID, so their face was obscured. It wasn't you, but someone. And then I started to put the pieces together. Jimmy is going to be on the podcast tomorrow. Is he's got my address and now he's sending strangers to my home. And I've received an. 00:21:53 Speaker 3: Item here in a little bag and it's now in kind of this beautiful full bag with this gorgeous white dog in a tiara. Yeah, you can't fault me with this, and all of my emails and everything about the podcast he says is n G. I thought it was like it's like IGN or something like some of those like one of those gaming things. I no idea that actually stood for I said, no gifts. There's a nice Chinese guest of yours. You know, we always bring gifts, and I brought the cutest gift. I thought. 00:22:28 Speaker 2: This to me just feels like a lot of covering on your part, which is fine. I don't want to get in a fight. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: And also, it's really your boyfriend's fault. He didn't have to open a door and accept this gift from a stranger. 00:22:39 Speaker 2: That's very true. I mean, you know, looking at it now, I almost wanted to place all of the blame on him for just bringing a foreign object into our home from someone he didn't know. 00:22:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know. It could be COVID in that bag, right, He just really nilly accepts things from people. It's you know, you've got to you need to use use a little more sense. Live in a dangerous world, especially when your boyfriend has a podcast called I I said, no gifts. You know, he really just should should never open the door. He should be the first line of defense for me. 00:23:11 Speaker 2: It comes exactly exactly how I mean, how do I learn to trust again? I don't know all that aside. Do you want me to open this gift here on the podcast? 00:23:23 Speaker 3: Please do It's it's it's very small, so you won't feel bad. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: Well, I feel guilt at all times. 00:23:29 Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's it's so small you will not feel bad. But it's it's fun, it's interesting, and it's practical. 00:23:34 Speaker 2: I think I'll be the judge of who feels bad here? 00:23:37 Speaker 3: Jim. Okay, yes, you. 00:23:48 Speaker 2: Diving in? Okay, it's in another bag here. 00:23:53 Speaker 3: It's a Big five Sporting Good. It's my first It's the first place I ever worked in. Still, I still get an employed discount there if I talk to the right people. 00:24:04 Speaker 2: You're kidding. How long did you work at Big Five? 00:24:06 Speaker 3: I worked I think three separate summers when I was in high school, and then maybe my freshman year of college. Yeah, it was. There's a Big five right down the street from my house, and I walked there to work. It was the first place I ever applied to in the first place I ever worked at it. It was awesome. 00:24:20 Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. Were you a cashier or a salesperson or what? 00:24:24 Speaker 3: No, you got to graduate into a cashier. They don't trust you with the money right away. So I usually worked in the shoe section. Did you put all the boys in the shoe section? The managers can work behind the counter, where they sell shotguns and stuff, and then a lot of girls with the cashiers and they will work in the swim section, the soccer section and stuff like that. But yeah, I mostly did the shoe section. It was a great fun job. 00:24:51 Speaker 2: Now with the shoe section, was it like training about how to like, you know, you go to a shoe store, they make you stand up, they feel your toe. Did you have to be. 00:25:00 Speaker 3: Trained on that or was it just guesswork a little bit of that? They say, you know, you should have about a thumbnail of space between the shoe and your toe. You're in your big taes. But here's the thing. Really, when it comes to salesmanship and when people buying stuff they don't know what they want. You just gotta instill confidence in them that they're buying the right thing, you know. And it's okay if you're like, oh, this is perfect, this looks great on you, and oh, guess what I put my thing on it? It is perfect, They're gonna love it and they're gonna feel good about their purchase, you know, And that's what you want people to walk away with. 00:25:40 Speaker 2: Did you ever deal with angry customers or anything? 00:25:45 Speaker 3: Angry customers? Nothing? This is a pre Karen Era, so I didn't. I don't think I dealt with a lot of Karens, and people are generally very nice, I would say, I think. Yeah, my first like month working there, Eric Clapton came in and was browsing the discount shoe section. It was very cool. Yeah, and nobody recognized who he is because he just looks like regular dad, you know. And then I just went up. I was like mister Clapton and he was like yes, and I was like, oh my god, he's literally looking at the nineteen ninety nine sho sale section when you just have mismatched pairs. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: This man has probably one hundred million dollars. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: I know, but I think rich people in famous would like to do normal. And then years later I'm like, oh that this checks out because there's a paparazzi picture of him like doing laundry at the laundry mat. So I feel like he just likes to do regular stuff. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And now wait, I feel like he may be an anti vaxxer. 00:26:43 Speaker 3: Oh I don't. I don't know that. I do not know. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: We'll have to check into that. That would be heartbreaking. 00:26:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I don't want to talk bad about the man he's a legend, but if he is, it actually is in line with browsing the discount shoe section, laundrymat you know, and anti vaxer. Those are all the same fan diagram. I feel like. 00:27:08 Speaker 2: Eric Clapton, I hope you haven't lost your way as someone who is constantly looking at the clearance section of shoes. Myself, I feel like we should all get a vaccination. H I agree, Well, that's so exciting. My other big question about Big five is is there a rivalry between Big five and sports authority? 00:27:26 Speaker 3: Oh so yes, big time not sports authority. At the time, when I was in high school, it was called sports Chale, but I feel like it's a little different. Sports Shella was more like foot locker. They have like really nice, top of the line stuff new Jordan's, I think, brand new, like the newest Nike running shoes, whatever, Whereas Big Five they have stuff that's a couple of years old, but it's very practical stuff. If you need a punching bag, if you need a bench press, if you need some weights, if you need a soccer ball, you go to Big Five and you know you're going to get a good deal. There's some nice shoes, but sports shellet is a little higher end. 00:28:02 Speaker 2: Sla, a little more hoity toity. I guess that makes sense. The chalet. They really want people to think that they're shopping in a fancy place. I've never been in either as someone who's just not good with any any athletics. 00:28:17 Speaker 3: You've never been inside of a sporting goods store. 00:28:22 Speaker 2: I have been inside. There was where I grew up. There was I think it was called art Sports. Okay, that was like our local chain. But as far as a big five, a sports authority, a sports chalet, I think there might be. I would dist sporting goods. I don't think I've ever been in any of those. I've been in an ARII just recently actually rock climbing shoes. But I'm not on these sports goods retailer circuit. Well, look, we haven't even opened the gift yet. The listener is probably screaming at me get into the bag. But look, I love retail. I love a big box store, Sue Mets, let's see. 00:29:04 Speaker 3: What's happening in here, though, Oh this is okay. I actually have an immediate question. So this you've given me six table tennis balls. And this is something that I've actually I have a huge amount of ignorance about. Are ping pong and table tennis the same thing? The same thing? I think table tennis just sounds more technical because even Chinese people would call it ping. 00:29:29 Speaker 2: Pong, you know, Okay, who calls it table tennis? 00:29:33 Speaker 3: Snobs, British people, Brits, I have no idea table tennis does seem like just kind of the mechanical, like like a machine came up with the term table tennis when everybody else was calling it ping pong. Yeah, I feel like a table tennis is for people who are trying to like be two PC, you know, and and they call it they try to they think ping pong sounds offensive, but it's actually not. It's actually a name for the sport. Yeah, technically it's called ping pong as like an Olympic sport. It's I'm sorry, it's called table tennis as an Olympic sport, you know what I mean. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: And the word on the street is ping pong, ping pong. 00:30:11 Speaker 3: We're on the street. 00:30:12 Speaker 2: It's way more fun to say, Like, I think it makes more sense with like it feels like the balls are pinging and ponging. 00:30:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, and in Chinese it's actually ping pong. But in Chinese so ping pong cho ping pong? 00:30:25 Speaker 2: Really yeah? Wait, so do you play ping pong? I assume you do. You gave me ping pong. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: I grew up. I grew up playing ping pong. And recently somebody on Instagram, a very nice guy who plays ping pong send me a brand new table tennis racket or ping pong racket, and I'm excited to get back into it. That's why I'm trying to send all my friends ping pong balls, and if you're into it, you know, get some rackets and we play. But I grew up playing ping pong. That was a big sport in Hong Kong. That's like the national sport. You know. It's like basketball here, you know, whereas here if you play ping pong and people just think it's kind of funny or whatever, But it's a very serious sport back home. So I grew up playing that until I was like thirteen, until I moved here. 00:31:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, was this something growing up like kids in the US who grow I mean, look me aside, I never had a dream of being in the NBA. That was never a remote possis. 00:31:14 Speaker 3: I still have that dream. You know, it's crazy. I still have vivid dreams of like, say, me playing for the Clippers and like not Doc Rivers now, but Tylu calls me up from the bench, you know, and then I just rock in Staple Center. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: I would love nothing more. I feel like it's time for the NBA to just pluck a full grown adult man out of obscurity for basketball dreams. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: You just got hoop dreams, man, you know, they don't die. There's so many things like honestly, like I do, I am an optimist. I think if you put your mind into it, it could happen. Except my actual dream basketball, it just there's no way. 00:31:56 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I wonder if, truly, if that would even be a remote possibility, because you know NBA players retire at thirty seven or whatever. Yea, if somebody like in their mid thirties could even begin to like be a rookie in the NBA and go on to be a successful player, or if that's just a note a non star you mean me or like me, I have manager ideas in mind already. I'm going to get you in the NBA. 00:32:26 Speaker 3: Well we're both going to be very broke. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Even if I started playing basketball eight hours a day, you know, since I was like five years old, not going to happen. There's no way. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: It's a I mean, the people playing are just beyond talented, Yeah, exactly. But I wonder if there's like some poor soul out in the world who just turned forty two who happens to be an incredible, like the world's best basketball player, and for whatever reason, bad luck has gotten in the way, and this person deserves to be in the NBA. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: I mean, rip to Kimbo Slice, you know, he was just like a street fighter and then he got into the UFC and became very successful like that. There was a great story about this Laker guy who spent about ten years in the G League, in the developmental League, and then he finally got called up and he scored like, I don't know, like twenty some points in his first game and he was about like my age, like thirty something. I dang, I forgot his name now, but he was like the oldest rookie or whatever, and he was great. Well, then you got that Mark Wahlberg movie about the football player that walked onto the Eagles The Invincible and I think it's called Invincible. It's a Disney movie and it's based on a real life guy forgot his name, but it was an open call out to be a receiver on the Philadelphia Eagles. And Mark Wahlberg plays his character in the movie and he actually did it, and he became an NFL player. 00:33:54 Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible. 00:33:56 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. But also, of course this person probably played in high school. 00:34:00 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, right, So that's what they don't tell you. 00:34:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: There are a lot of those Disney movies with one word, and now I'm picturing myself in one called Wonderful my True sports Story. So I just have to find the sport that I can kind of be a miracle player in. I've tried. I guess it would probably be badminton. That's the only sport I can play. 00:34:21 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are you really good at it? 00:34:22 Speaker 2: It's the only sport I like to It's because it's you know. 00:34:25 Speaker 3: The it's really hard. It's really hard. You really break a sweat I plan to do. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: You're running around, you're batting around. But the nice thing for me is there's no hard object flying at my face. The shuttlecock is very it's not intimidating. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Well, it's so crazy because you can hit the shuttlecock as hard as you want. Mike Tyson can hit that shuttlecock and it's only going to go at a particular speed. It's never going to go faster. So you can really let your rage out, you know, on the shuttlecock, and it just kind of floats on you. It's very interesting. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the floating aspect of it. It's like the one sport where I'm almost certain I'm not going to get injured. 00:35:06 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Yeah, I feel like you get a lot of like lateral movement. You might like blow your knee out. 00:35:11 Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy to blow a knee out, but if I as long as I don't have like a concussion. Oh yeah, slamming against the side of my face. It's a non contact sport right right now. Back to what I derailed it really quickly. But what I was going to ask you is growing up in Hong Kong, where you ever like, Oh, I might be a professional ping pong player someday. 00:35:32 Speaker 3: I was actually very good. I was probably one of the best players under the age of thirteen in Hong Kong. Noo. Yeah, yeah, I was on TV being interviewed. I was playing tournaments and stuff like that, but I was you know how Michael Jordan and Tom Brady has that like winter mentality. I'm not saying I don't have it, but like when I get to like really pressureus situations like the finals to semi final, I kind of I choke. I got the hips, as they say in the sports world, so I will never actually make it that far. Where's My brother made it pretty far in tournaments, but I had like better form, you know and everything, so I looked more promising, but when it came to actually performing, I wasn't that great. But yeah, the first few times I was on TV was in Hong Kong, like news, you know, playing right, pretty crazy. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: Did you ever win any like trophies or prize money or anything. 00:36:23 Speaker 3: I think I won a couple of bronze medals, like nothing crazy, you know, maybe a school tournament or like a local club tournament. But my brother actually has a couple of gold trophies. 00:36:32 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what does your brother do now? 00:36:35 Speaker 3: I don't you know, he's he's in finance. It's nothing, you know, crazy yeah, the dream is dead. No, he's not a professional ping pong player. No. No, yeah, he's actually the head coach for No. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: He just won the Olympics. 00:36:51 Speaker 3: Look it up. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: Were your parents did they encourage you? Were they like, oh, maybe our kids are. 00:36:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, they played it too, and it's a great for especially older people now, you know, to keep your mind fresh and your brain fresh, and it's so fun. Yeah. Yeah, they really encourage me. I remember my dad took me to all these training camps, took me to practice all the time. It's just like you know, a good like soccer mom here would take their kids to practice or whatever. And they really took it seriously. I don't think they ever thought like, oh, I'll be like so. I think they were hoping I wouldn't be a professional because I would be a professional. I'll do that. But there's no money in it. 00:37:29 Speaker 2: That's what I's gonna ask. Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a super lucrative sport. Not not really. 00:37:34 Speaker 3: You can get into coaching and stuff like that, but it's pretty It's like one of those sports where like you know, articles written about how Olympians become broke after a few years. It's like one of those, right right? 00:37:46 Speaker 2: And is there anything beyond just playing ping pong to get better at it? Is there like any training regimen or anything, or is it just playing? 00:37:56 Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? You know, I was always very small as a kid, so I wasn't very strong because ping pong you can really whip the hell out of the ball, right, you know, unlike you know a shuttlecock, where I feel like there's like a a maximum velocity. So I was always a bit weak. But I stopped playing before I hit puberty, so I don't know. Like I've played it as an adult just for fun. I can still like serve like a really nice ball and like whatever, but I'm not that good anymore. Like a lot of my friends can beat me if you just have practice, because my body is completely changed. I don't know the dimension of the table anymore. Like now, if I hit the ball the same way I would have hit any one other kids, it would just go out of balance, you know, right right. But I want to get back into it. Actually, I wish up the space for a ping pong table here or something, But the only like ping pong club I can find is at the way in Santa Monica, which is so far. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a drive. 00:38:51 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know. 00:38:52 Speaker 2: So you need to open another chapter. You need to open one in your neighborhood. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe get a kind of community ping pong tournament going. 00:39:01 Speaker 2: I'm now wondering can large people play ping pong very well as a small person. I mean, I'm actually horrible at ping pong, but I do feel like if I put any effort in, I would be okay because I'm essentially the height of a table. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, it's a lot about reflexes and reach. So you could be sure because the table was not all that long. But if you watch the Olympics, there are a couple of people that's like six six feet taw six two. That's play very well as long as you have to reflexes because you have that reach that you can get around the table more. You know, as long as you have good lateral movement, you're good. Yeah. 00:39:37 Speaker 2: Ping pong for me was one of those things that I felt like every other kid learned to play without me, and then suddenly I'm over at someone's house they have a ping pong table, and I just don't play at all because I don't want to reveal that I have no idea how to play, never got good at it. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: Well, it's fine, there's no shame with you as an American person not playing ping pong. For me, a lot of people are a lot of my friends know that I grew up in Hong Kong know that I grew up playing ping pong, so they always challenged me to ping pong. Oh, and I'm not good, and they've been practicing. I'm not good anymore. You know. I'm in practicing, in practicing in the house, and when they beat me, they think it's the greatest thing ever, you know, But if I win, then it's really neither here or there, so. 00:40:19 Speaker 2: There's no there's actually no winning for you. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: Lose lose situation. 00:40:22 Speaker 2: What a drag. 00:40:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I don't play ping pong anymore, but I do want to get back to it. Secretly trained for a while and then go beat my friends. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: That's what you need to do, just blow everybody away. Yeah, you always have the personal satisfaction. 00:40:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only win I have is really a truly like a blowout. If I blow somebody out, like. 00:40:39 Speaker 2: Right, or got to just be the ultimate player in the community. 00:40:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 00:40:44 Speaker 2: Do you play any regular tennis. 00:40:47 Speaker 3: No, I did play like in pea class in high school. They'll rotate sports and say the real tennis players will go to the tennis teams there, non Pea class. So I was better in tennis than regular kids, right, but I'm not good at tennis. It's different. It requires a lot more wrist strength and like, it's just different. And let me ask you about pickleball. Do you know, I don't know what pickleball is to me. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: It seems like a weird in between ping pong tennis and I'm gonna say croquet. I feel like the ball is much harder. It's like the ball is like like rubber or something. 00:41:24 Speaker 3: It's like a drunk guy sport, right, It's like middle age drunk guys, weekend warriors go play pickleball and then drink like twelve cores lights. 00:41:33 Speaker 2: It does sound like a drunk game. 00:41:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's not like a real Olympic sport. It's like a we can't warrant drunk guy sport, which is great. 00:41:41 Speaker 2: I love those They made us play it in gym in high school, but I think that just speaks to it. Did whatever was happening in my high school. I can't say for sure. I mean the same person who was teaching us pickleball was also teaching us how to drive and probably biology, so it's not deal. Well, this is very exciting. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: I love the feel of how light a ping pong ball is. It's great. It's like a little stress relief. You get post around till you can learn how to juggle. I can. 00:42:12 Speaker 2: I can do a mild one handed juggling. 00:42:15 Speaker 3: Great. Back into that ping pong bong is actually very hard to juggle. I gotta stay light, too light to have no weight. But you know, I thought maybe in case you didn't play ping pong, you can always use it for beer pong. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: I've never played beer pong. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: What you never play beer pong? 00:42:32 Speaker 2: My life is so empty? 00:42:34 Speaker 3: Well, it's not empty, maybe you just well beer pong scenarios are. I feel like once you miss it past like twenty one, you shouldn't be like a thirty year old man playing beer. 00:42:43 Speaker 2: That would be an alarming turn for my life of something that it's like playing beer pong. 00:42:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, if my girlfriend comes home, I'm just playing beer pong with my buddy. That's that's very alarming. 00:42:55 Speaker 2: Does anyone ever play beer pong? Solo that feels like the darkest of all. 00:42:59 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know how you could do it, but I've seen arcade machines where you play beer pong against computer really yeh yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting. I like it. 00:43:09 Speaker 2: I was in an arcade recently and it was just a wild experience. I mean, obviously they hadn't been in anything like that since the pandemic, and I hadn't been in an arcade probably in fifteen years, so it was really a sensory overload. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: I love arcade, and now they're bringing it back as like people our age like thirty. I don't know how old you are, but like me, I'm a thirty three, like thirty some year olds. Like kind of hip comeback thing. You know. There's like coin op that's like really cool. You get a couple of beers and everything. It's really fun. I enjoy it quite a lot. Like I've done a lot of dates there in first dates, and I used to live very close to this place called Buzzbies and I used to go three times a week. 00:43:53 Speaker 2: Oh, I've never heard of Buzzby's. 00:43:55 Speaker 3: It's really a sports spot, but it has like one basketball machine, two ski ball machines and like Big Hunt, So me and my buddies will just go there and hang out. It's really fun. 00:44:04 Speaker 2: I love I love an arcade. Do you have a favorite arcade arcade game? 00:44:08 Speaker 3: I mean I like Big Buck Hunt? Okay, sure, I like Big Buck Hunt. But because the thing is, I love all the shooter games. Well, you want to know what I'm talking about, Like Time Crisis is a classic. I know what you're talking about. I've played a million Time Crisis House of the Day. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You never played beer pong, You've been to many of arcades. 00:44:27 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. As you know. Look, I'm the biggest nerd on the planet. 00:44:30 Speaker 3: I'm sorry now that I just think you've never done anything. Yeah but yeah, Time Crisis was fun, but that requires so many coins to beat the game, and I never end up like beating the game. And there's this one game I'm absolutely obsessed with. They have it Dave and Busters and a lot of major arcades. It's a little baseball bat. Then you get to pull back and the little tiny baseball rolls at you, and then you released the bat and you try to get a home run of one out, too out, whatever, it's really fun. 00:45:00 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like like a miniature pinball machine or something. 00:45:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:45:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, And at Dave and Busters you get tickets for that. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: Oh right, right, those always wanted to get enough tickets to get a prize have yet to do it. 00:45:12 Speaker 3: I was. I was never able to do that in Hong Kong, like the Hong Kong version Chuck and Cheese or whatever, because you know, we just play and you know, you waste some money and then you get a pizza and you lead. But then as an adult, I have the exact same goal, right. And there was David Busters down at my house back in the day when I used to live in Hollywood, So I used to go there and there was a Simpson soccer game where it's like Homer Simpson would toggo back and forth and you try to kick a soccer ball. There's one soccer ball and each time you get it past them will bounce back and you get like five points, right right. So what I did. I grabbed three basketballs from the machine next to me, and I have four balls and I would just like be on my knees and throw these balls at at the at the back of the goal and it's just boom boom boom boo boo. And every time I'll get like two hundred tickets. And that same night I got enough tickets to in a Huntington Beach slow cooker. Oh that's incredible for I know, I know, it's the best thing. I still have that slow cooker. It's amazing. I'm never thrown away. 00:46:08 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that same night you were banned permanently from David Busters. 00:46:12 Speaker 3: No, no, nobody caught me, and nobody caught me. I had a buddy, I had a spot her. I had a buddy spot me. Like, in case any David Buster's employee came by, I would I would stop. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: I'm sending this audio to David Busters. That'll be the first people to hear it. 00:46:24 Speaker 3: What do I go to jail? What do I go to jail? I just admitted to like fraud. Basically, Oh my god. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: For the slow cooker, you've probably had many a good meal. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well actually I used it twice and I was like, I'm better off just cooking it regularly. Like, who the fuck is this slow cooker? I guess if you have a nine to five, you the point is you dump it in and you come back. You know, but I don't like I just cook. You know, it's fine, right right? 00:46:51 Speaker 2: Wow, so many things revealed on this podcast. 00:46:54 Speaker 3: I know I'm a fraudster. I'm a froster. You never played beer pong? Who are we? 00:46:59 Speaker 2: It's shame, It's absolutely shameful. Big Five is regretting ever hiring you. Oh look, it's time to play a game. I want to play a game called Gift Master. Okay, I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:47:14 Speaker 3: Eight. 00:47:15 Speaker 2: Okay. I'll explain how the game is going to work in just a minute. I have to do some light calculating. In the meantime. You can promote something, you can talk about something you're excited about, you can recommend something. Whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:47:26 Speaker 3: Okay. Cool. I have a great rom com starring me, Nina do Brev and Darren Barnett coming out on Netflix November fifth. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be very cute. It's a Christmas movie for all the family for the holidays, and your boy Jimmy O Yang will be the lead of a rom com. Just check it out. And I know I know you Bridge are You're a big rock climber guy. You know an RII I climb rocks in that movie. Man, really, you're gonna love it. 00:47:55 Speaker 2: Wait, did you actually have to climb rocks? 00:47:58 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is I have a fear of height. So we went to like an indoor gym and it was my first time climbing rocks or climbing whatever what do you call it? Rock climbing walls? And I got there. It was very scary for me. But the plot of the one of the plots is that my character is supposed to be like a professional. He goes there. He owns a store call all Things Outdoors, you know, and he's the professional, right And I'm supposed to teach Nina Dobev's character how to climb rocks. But she is a daredevil and an athlete, so she's just rackind of. And so we had a lot of acting had to be involved, where I have to pretend I'm not scared, and she had to pretend she couldn't climb rocks. 00:48:38 Speaker 2: Oh well, then it's the biggest challenge of both of your careers. 00:48:42 Speaker 3: It really was. And there was a scene they put us up. There was a crane and a camera where I'm like talking to her trying to calm her down. I'm like, you can get down here, it's fine, it's fine. On the top of the rock wall. Like I don't like thirty feet I was so scared, but I have to act like the level. This is really Oscar level acting in a rom com. Academy, please take notice. Talk to your boy academy. 00:49:10 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see this. 00:49:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really sweet movie. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: I'm going to focus in on that part of the performance and I'm gonna I'm just gonna rip into it. If if I'm not convinced. 00:49:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as a real rock climber. You tell me what you think. Love Heart November fifth on Netflix. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: People should watch that. Jimmy's a delight and everything. So I'm very excited about that. I think I had a psychic a couple of years ago. Tell me that the rom com renaissance is upon us. That was his big revelation. I like Netflix. You see all the rom coms coming out, always gets number one. You know, Crazy Rich Asians was a rom com right wonderful in that you know, it's really making a comeback. People just want comfort food, you. 00:49:54 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And I love it. I mean, you know you kind of know what the ending is going to be. With every wrong but some fun jokes. It's just a nice love story. 00:50:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all for each other despite everything. 00:50:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a little wrong, you get a low calm. 00:50:10 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all anybody ever asked for. Exactly, Jimmy, this is how we play gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts, three items things you could give away, and then I'm gonna name three celebrities, and you're going to tell more famous people or what have you. Is you're gonna tell me which gift you'd give which person, and why does that make sense? 00:50:32 Speaker 3: It's like fuck Mary Kill? But get is. 00:50:34 Speaker 2: It's kind of a gifty version where everybody walks away with a beautiful gift. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: Maybe we should make it like, what are the three gifts you give me? I choose to gift one to someone, I choose to not give a gift to someone and keep it for myself, and then the third one I throw it at someone's face. That's more like the fuck Mary Kill version. 00:50:55 Speaker 2: Jimmy, get your own podcast. You're welcome to start a competing gift podcasts. Do your game there, but we've got the audio. People will know that you, you know, came on here and were inspired by me. 00:51:08 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay. 00:51:10 Speaker 2: These are the three gifts you're going to be giving away. Number one is a corn nuts variety pack, so you know. 00:51:17 Speaker 3: Like a big fan of corn nuts. I love a corn nut. Who doesn't? Do you have a French ranch? 00:51:24 Speaker 2: That one is fantastic, that's I think it's kind of the dark horse of the corn nuts. Number two you'll be giving away a canoe. And number three you'll be giving. 00:51:36 Speaker 3: Away a pack of dogs. So that's a whole pack of dogs. What kind of dogs, adult dogs, puppies, what kind of dogs. 00:51:43 Speaker 2: It's dogs of all shapes and sizes. Whether they're snarling or not is up to you. 00:51:49 Speaker 3: Okay, they could be mean dogs or no. Yeah, we don't know, we don't know. 00:51:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. The people you're going to be giving them to are the following people. Number one, we love our Penelope Crews. Who does love Penelope? 00:52:00 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she's cool. 00:52:02 Speaker 2: Number two is Craig T. Nelson. Craig T. Nelson of course played Coach on the TV show Coach. 00:52:09 Speaker 3: He's in a lot of stuff. I remember I saw him in a movie that I just recently watch me look up Wikipedia. Craig T. Nelson here, my name is Earl uh huh interesting Turner and Hooch Poulter Guys stir crazy. He's always kind of like the bad guy right right in Polterguys, he's the dad mm hm oh yeah, he's either dad or bad guys, not the Poltergeiston Poltergeist, although that would be incredible. Craig T. Nelson Okay, okay. 00:52:39 Speaker 2: And finally, uh, Uma Thurman. 00:52:42 Speaker 3: Uma Thurman. Oh. I love Uma Thurman. 00:52:45 Speaker 2: I think everybody loves Zuma. When she said her best, She's unstoppable. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: You know. I feel like Craig T. Nelson is a corn nuts guy hessalt on Earth, I know, like a dad type guy, you know, right. I feel like the ladies will be very confused if I game of corn nuts, you know, a pack of dogs anyone else? 00:53:05 Speaker 2: A canoe? 00:53:07 Speaker 3: A canoe? Oh okay. I feel like Uma Thurman can really do a canoe, Like she can actually handle and you'll appreciate it. Uh, Penelope Cruise. Maybe I'm wrong, but she seems a little too delicate, you know what I mean, Like she's always playing or at least she's very playing, very beautiful, flowy, delicate character. I feel like she would not appreciate canoe and just hanging on her wall, you know. And I'll give her a pack of very nice dogs, you know, cute dogs, cute dogs. 00:53:35 Speaker 2: She could see Penelope surrounded by like a pack of trained dogs. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: I loved her this recently a couple of years ago in American crime story The Maasaci One. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: She was so good, she was that was I. 00:53:47 Speaker 3: Mean, this is that's my favorite show I think on TV. It just doesn't come on enough. You know, it's only been three seasons, like five years. Right, But she looked like because she played Donna Tellavisacchi, right, looks like she can use a pack of attack dogs, just unleashing them from her Miami manor exactly unsuspecting beach goers. Yeah, so just give her a bag of randomized dogs and she can go figure it out. 00:54:14 Speaker 2: Excellently played. I mean, I think you really just unlocked it immediately. Of course, coraig T Nelson wants cort nuts. He probably has a basement full of corn nuts as we speak. 00:54:23 Speaker 3: For sure. 00:54:23 Speaker 2: The man was built to chomp coord nuts. So yeah, just beautifully played you. 00:54:29 Speaker 3: I mean thank you. Do I get a prize? Do I get my gift back? 00:54:33 Speaker 2: You get a slow cooker? 00:54:35 Speaker 3: Oh? 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you'll be getting a beautiful and you got out the honest way this time. 00:54:43 Speaker 3: You know, I don't have to cheat. 00:54:45 Speaker 2: This was kind of a lesson for you ultimately. 00:54:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:54:48 Speaker 2: Sometimes if you just put in an honest day's work, you will get a slow cooker. 00:54:53 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just wait fifteen years, you get a slow cooker. Your time will come. Your time will come, legitimate slow cooker. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. This is called I said no emails. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. You know, these people have various issues, problems, concerns, questions, what have yous? And would you help me answer one? Yeah, give me one. So let me turn on the lights. Yeah. 00:55:20 Speaker 2: You're in total darkness at this point, and I feel so bad. It was an interesting day to night there. 00:55:26 Speaker 3: I know, all right, we've done this podcast so long. 00:55:29 Speaker 2: We've been here for four years. 00:55:31 Speaker 3: It just feels I spent two days. Oh my god. 00:55:36 Speaker 2: Okay, this is what this one says, says deer Bridger and disobedient guest. I am pregnant with my first child due February twenty twenty two. I've hired a doula who is a trained professional to assist before, during, and after. 00:55:51 Speaker 3: The burthen Oh good. She will be. 00:55:53 Speaker 2: Providing emotional and physical support during this very big life moment for both me and my spouse. I'd like to get her thank you for being part of this journey. She's an early thirties woman who loves social justice, gardening, and her dog ps. She is being compensated for her work, so I'd prefer to keep the gift under one hundred dollars. Okay, well, I'll write peace and blessings and that's from C. Just the letter c C. See her doula is she wants to get her a gift, but she doesn't want to go too far because this is not a volunteer doula. 00:56:29 Speaker 3: Uh huh, Yeah, it's a fully paid doula. Yes. 00:56:33 Speaker 2: I don't know too many volunteer doulas, but I assume they're out there in the world somewhere. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: What thirties, I thought, Usually it's older, right, I always. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: Kind of imagine kind of an earthy, you know, fifties to sixties. 00:56:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a wise lady that had her own kids. 00:56:49 Speaker 2: Right, This person, for all we know, has never seen a birth and is kind of running around town as a scammer. 00:56:56 Speaker 3: Maybe c she just givet her the kid. 00:57:01 Speaker 2: I love this, you. 00:57:02 Speaker 3: Know, it's under one hundred bucks. Take take it off her own hands. The doulas obviously likes kids. 00:57:09 Speaker 2: That's why she was obsessed with this baby. 00:57:12 Speaker 3: I think it's the perfect gift. You just give her the kid. 00:57:15 Speaker 2: It's truly no cost, zero, deeply meaningful. It means a lot to you, It means a lot to this doul. 00:57:22 Speaker 3: It actually saves you a lot of money long term, a lot of grief. Yeah, a lot of grief. 00:57:27 Speaker 2: I think that. I mean, I'm almost upset that the answer was right there in front of me and I didn't go for it. 00:57:35 Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's why you got me. 00:57:38 Speaker 2: Man, Why have the baby if you're not going to give it away. 00:57:41 Speaker 3: As a gift exactly? Yeah. 00:57:43 Speaker 2: I maybe keep the next baby, but this first one. You've had this woman in her thirties hanging around giving you advice, emotionally supporting you and your spouse. 00:57:54 Speaker 3: And this dula sounds like a good mother, you know, in the social justice. 00:57:58 Speaker 2: Right, she loves doll. Oh yes, as far as we can tell, has no other children in her life. 00:58:05 Speaker 3: Probably not. 00:58:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what a surprise that would be for the stula. The baby comes out of the hospital. Here you go, deal with it. It's your thing now. 00:58:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be your doula. Now you know your little role reversal. 00:58:18 Speaker 2: That's a really yeah. Flipping the script almost immediately, it's like it's like. 00:58:23 Speaker 3: Captain Phillips, Ye, look at me, look at me. I'm your doula. 00:58:27 Speaker 2: Now it's a real Tom Hanks moment. This could be your big Tom Hanks performance. M h, Jimmy, I mean, well, you did the Gift Master situation perfectly. You did this perfectly. 00:58:41 Speaker 3: Well. 00:58:42 Speaker 2: You should have been the first guest on this podcast. It's a shame it's taken this long. I blame Jessica Gow. 00:58:48 Speaker 3: I should just host this podcast. Do you make a lot of money? Like, can I just have your again? 00:58:53 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you're going to be going to prison as once David Buster's catches wind of all of this. 00:59:00 Speaker 3: Damn it. 00:59:01 Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe post prison that could be your. 00:59:06 Speaker 3: Well, I can rappers make albums in prison. I can surely host a podcast from prison. Very true? Ya, how does. 00:59:14 Speaker 2: I guess you just get you know, your daily alloted phone time or whatever. 00:59:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how like Shine Back in the Day on Big Boy Records, right, Bad Boy Records. Yeah, it's just like through a phone line basically, and it's a very cool mix. 00:59:28 Speaker 2: Actually, it adds a nice grit. I mean, I think, if anything I mean this podcast, the first word that comes to mind is grit is post prison. So I think we'll just hand it over to you once you've done your time. 00:59:45 Speaker 3: Great sounds good. That's a deal, Jimmy. 00:59:47 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have not only have these ping pong balls in my life, but to have been educated on the sport. I feel. I think I'm a jock. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: Now you are. You're going to go to Big Five? 00:59:58 Speaker 2: Now, I think I in the last half hour, I have made my transformation. 01:00:04 Speaker 3: I'm a jock. Let's go, we'll grow out, we'll brow out. We'll go to Big five. Get you some weights, get you a couple of punching bags, go to the GANC, get some protein shakes. 01:00:14 Speaker 2: You know, I am ready to live my sports life. 01:00:17 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 01:00:18 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. I had just a delightful time. 01:00:21 Speaker 3: That was fun. Man, thank you and thanks for accepting my gift. Well, thank you boyfriend for accepting my gift. 01:00:27 Speaker 2: Well, you know it's going to be a painful healing process, but. 01:00:31 Speaker 3: Big fight tonight. I can see it coming. Big fight tonight. 01:00:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, listener, I have to go get in a fight with my boyfriend. So this is the end of the podcast. I'm going to be screaming for the rest of the night. I hope that that's not something that you have to deal with, So it's time for you to move on. I'm excited for whatever you have next, your next chapter after this podcast. We'll talk again soon. I love you, Bye bye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. 01:01:14 Speaker 3: You must follow. 01:01:15 Speaker 2: The show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do, considering everything I do for you, And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midrol dot com slash ads. 01:01:46 Speaker 1: I invit, did you hear fun? A man? Myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no gifts. Your presence is present in love. I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me? 01:02:24 Speaker 3: Kay?