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Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. If

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Speaker 2: It's Jimmy Oyang, Jimmy. Welcome to. I said no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me. This is also a very

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Speaker 3: Yes? I have these paint patches from Nonetheless a Feral

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Speaker 2: It's coming for them. Eventually, this is going to catch

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Speaker 3: Shoot for like a slander on the great names of

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Speaker 2: Ship and Joanna build quality products at affordable prices. They've

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Speaker 2: That's what I'll say.

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Speaker 2: Against Joanna Welcome to I said, no, Jimmy, I feel

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's very nice. That's the best compliment I

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Speaker 2: I said No Gifts, And you know you and I

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Speaker 2: be on the podcast tomorrow. Is he's got my address

434
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: and now he's sending strangers to my home. And I've

435
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: received an.

436
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: Item here in a little bag and it's now in

437
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: kind of this beautiful full bag with this gorgeous white

438
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 3: dog in a tiara. Yeah, you can't fault me with this,

439
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 3: and all of my emails and everything about the podcast

440
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: he says is n G. I thought it was like

441
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: it's like IGN or something like some of those like

442
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: one of those gaming things. I no idea that actually

443
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 3: stood for I said, no gifts. There's a nice Chinese

444
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: guest of yours. You know, we always bring gifts, and

445
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: I brought the cutest gift. I thought.

446
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 2: This to me just feels like a lot of covering

447
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: on your part, which is fine. I don't want to

448
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: get in a fight.

449
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: And also, it's really your boyfriend's fault. He didn't have

450
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 3: to open a door and accept this gift from a stranger.

451
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: That's very true. I mean, you know, looking at it now,

452
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: I almost wanted to place all of the blame on

453
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 2: him for just bringing a foreign object into our home

454
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: from someone he didn't know.

455
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know. It could be COVID in that bag, right,

456
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: He just really nilly accepts things from people. It's you know,

457
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: you've got to you need to use use a little

458
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: more sense. Live in a dangerous world, especially when your

459
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: boyfriend has a podcast called I I said, no gifts.

460
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: You know, he really just should should never open the door.

461
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: He should be the first line of defense for me.

462
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: It comes exactly exactly how I mean, how do I

463
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: learn to trust again? I don't know all that aside.

464
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: Do you want me to open this gift here on

465
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: the podcast?

466
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 3: Please do It's it's it's very small, so you won't

467
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: feel bad.

468
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: Well, I feel guilt at all times.

469
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's it's so small you will not feel bad.

470
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 3: But it's it's fun, it's interesting, and it's practical.

471
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 2: I think I'll be the judge of who feels bad here?

472
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: Jim. Okay, yes, you.

473
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Diving in? Okay, it's in another bag here.

474
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: It's a Big five Sporting Good. It's my first It's

475
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: the first place I ever worked in. Still, I still

476
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: get an employed discount there if I talk to the

477
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: right people.

478
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: You're kidding. How long did you work at Big Five?

479
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: I worked I think three separate summers when I was

480
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 3: in high school, and then maybe my freshman year of college. Yeah,

481
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: it was. There's a Big five right down the street

482
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: from my house, and I walked there to work. It

483
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: was the first place I ever applied to in the

484
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: first place I ever worked at it. It was awesome.

485
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. Were you a cashier or a salesperson

486
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: or what?

487
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: No, you got to graduate into a cashier. They don't

488
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: trust you with the money right away. So I usually

489
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: worked in the shoe section. Did you put all the

490
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: boys in the shoe section? The managers can work behind

491
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: the counter, where they sell shotguns and stuff, and then

492
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: a lot of girls with the cashiers and they will

493
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: work in the swim section, the soccer section and stuff

494
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: like that. But yeah, I mostly did the shoe section.

495
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: It was a great fun job.

496
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: Now with the shoe section, was it like training about

497
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: how to like, you know, you go to a shoe store,

498
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: they make you stand up, they feel your toe. Did

499
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: you have to be.

500
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: Trained on that or was it just guesswork a little

501
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: bit of that? They say, you know, you should have

502
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: about a thumbnail of space between the shoe and your toe.

503
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: You're in your big taes. But here's the thing. Really,

504
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: when it comes to salesmanship and when people buying stuff

505
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: they don't know what they want. You just gotta instill

506
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: confidence in them that they're buying the right thing, you know.

507
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: And it's okay if you're like, oh, this is perfect,

508
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 3: this looks great on you, and oh, guess what I

509
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: put my thing on it? It is perfect, They're gonna love

510
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: it and they're gonna feel good about their purchase, you know,

511
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: And that's what you want people to walk away with.

512
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Did you ever deal with angry customers or anything?

513
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: Angry customers? Nothing? This is a pre Karen Era, so

514
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: I didn't. I don't think I dealt with a lot

515
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: of Karens, and people are generally very nice, I would say,

516
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, my first like month working there, Eric

517
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: Clapton came in and was browsing the discount shoe section.

518
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: It was very cool. Yeah, and nobody recognized who he

519
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: is because he just looks like regular dad, you know.

520
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: And then I just went up. I was like mister

521
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: Clapton and he was like yes, and I was like,

522
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's literally looking at the nineteen ninety

523
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: nine sho sale section when you just have mismatched pairs.

524
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: This man has probably one hundred million dollars.

525
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: I know, but I think rich people in famous would

526
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: like to do normal. And then years later I'm like,

527
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 3: oh that this checks out because there's a paparazzi picture

528
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: of him like doing laundry at the laundry mat. So

529
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: I feel like he just likes to do regular stuff.

530
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And now wait, I feel like he may

531
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: be an anti vaxxer.

532
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh I don't. I don't know that. I do not know.

533
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: We'll have to check into that. That would be heartbreaking.

534
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I don't want to talk bad

535
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: about the man he's a legend, but if he is,

536
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: it actually is in line with browsing the discount shoe section,

537
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: laundrymat you know, and anti vaxer. Those are all the

538
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: same fan diagram. I feel like.

539
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: Eric Clapton, I hope you haven't lost your way as

540
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: someone who is constantly looking at the clearance section of shoes. Myself,

541
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: I feel like we should all get a vaccination. H

542
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: I agree, Well, that's so exciting. My other big question

543
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: about Big five is is there a rivalry between Big

544
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: five and sports authority?

545
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Oh so yes, big time not sports authority. At the time,

546
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, it was called sports Chale,

547
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: but I feel like it's a little different. Sports Shella

548
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: was more like foot locker. They have like really nice,

549
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: top of the line stuff new Jordan's, I think, brand new,

550
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: like the newest Nike running shoes, whatever, Whereas Big Five

551
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: they have stuff that's a couple of years old, but

552
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: it's very practical stuff. If you need a punching bag,

553
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: if you need a bench press, if you need some weights,

554
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: if you need a soccer ball, you go to Big

555
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: Five and you know you're going to get a good deal.

556
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: There's some nice shoes, but sports shellet is a little

557
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: higher end.

558
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Sla, a little more hoity toity. I guess that makes sense.

559
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: The chalet. They really want people to think that they're

560
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: shopping in a fancy place. I've never been in either

561
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: as someone who's just not good with any any athletics.

562
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: You've never been inside of a sporting goods store.

563
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: I have been inside. There was where I grew up.

564
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: There was I think it was called art Sports. Okay,

565
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: that was like our local chain. But as far as

566
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: a big five, a sports authority, a sports chalet, I

567
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: think there might be. I would dist sporting goods. I

568
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever been in any of those. I've

569
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: been in an ARII just recently actually rock climbing shoes.

570
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: But I'm not on these sports goods retailer circuit. Well, look,

571
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: we haven't even opened the gift yet. The listener is

572
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: probably screaming at me get into the bag. But look,

573
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: I love retail. I love a big box store, Sue Mets,

574
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: let's see.

575
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: What's happening in here, though, Oh this is okay. I

576
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: actually have an immediate question. So this you've given me

577
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: six table tennis balls. And this is something that I've

578
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: actually I have a huge amount of ignorance about. Are

579
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: ping pong and table tennis the same thing? The same thing?

580
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: I think table tennis just sounds more technical because even

581
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: Chinese people would call it ping.

582
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: Pong, you know, Okay, who calls it table tennis?

583
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: Snobs, British people, Brits, I have no idea table tennis

584
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: does seem like just kind of the mechanical, like like

585
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: a machine came up with the term table tennis when

586
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: everybody else was calling it ping pong. Yeah, I feel

587
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: like a table tennis is for people who are trying

588
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: to like be two PC, you know, and and they

589
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: call it they try to they think ping pong sounds offensive,

590
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: but it's actually not. It's actually a name for the sport. Yeah,

591
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: technically it's called ping pong as like an Olympic sport.

592
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: It's I'm sorry, it's called table tennis as an Olympic sport,

593
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

594
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: And the word on the street is ping pong, ping pong.

595
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: We're on the street.

596
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: It's way more fun to say, Like, I think it

597
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: makes more sense with like it feels like the balls

598
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: are pinging and ponging.

599
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in Chinese it's actually ping pong. But in

600
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Chinese so ping pong cho ping pong?

601
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: Really yeah? Wait, so do you play ping pong? I

602
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: assume you do. You gave me ping pong.

603
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: I grew up. I grew up playing ping pong. And

604
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: recently somebody on Instagram, a very nice guy who plays

605
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: ping pong send me a brand new table tennis racket

606
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: or ping pong racket, and I'm excited to get back

607
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: into it. That's why I'm trying to send all my

608
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: friends ping pong balls, and if you're into it, you know,

609
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: get some rackets and we play. But I grew up

610
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: playing ping pong. That was a big sport in Hong Kong.

611
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: That's like the national sport. You know. It's like basketball here,

612
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: you know, whereas here if you play ping pong and

613
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: people just think it's kind of funny or whatever, But

614
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: it's a very serious sport back home. So I grew

615
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: up playing that until I was like thirteen, until I

616
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: moved here.

617
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, was this something growing up like kids in the

618
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: US who grow I mean, look me aside, I never

619
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: had a dream of being in the NBA. That was

620
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: never a remote possis.

621
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: I still have that dream. You know, it's crazy. I

622
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: still have vivid dreams of like, say, me playing for

623
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: the Clippers and like not Doc Rivers now, but Tylu

624
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: calls me up from the bench, you know, and then

625
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: I just rock in Staple Center.

626
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: I would love nothing more. I feel like it's time

627
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: for the NBA to just pluck a full grown adult

628
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: man out of obscurity for basketball dreams.

629
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: You just got hoop dreams, man, you know, they don't die.

630
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: There's so many things like honestly, like I do, I

631
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: am an optimist. I think if you put your mind

632
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: into it, it could happen. Except my actual dream basketball,

633
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: it just there's no way.

634
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I wonder if, truly, if that

635
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: would even be a remote possibility, because you know NBA

636
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: players retire at thirty seven or whatever. Yea, if somebody

637
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: like in their mid thirties could even begin to like

638
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: be a rookie in the NBA and go on to

639
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: be a successful player, or if that's just a note

640
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: a non star you mean me or like me, I

641
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: have manager ideas in mind already. I'm going to get

642
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: you in the NBA.

643
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Well we're both going to be very broke. Yeah, it's

644
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: not going to happen. Even if I started playing basketball

645
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: eight hours a day, you know, since I was like

646
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: five years old, not going to happen. There's no way.

647
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: It's a I mean, the people playing are just beyond talented, Yeah, exactly.

648
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: But I wonder if there's like some poor soul out

649
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: in the world who just turned forty two who happens

650
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: to be an incredible, like the world's best basketball player,

651
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, bad luck has gotten in the way,

652
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: and this person deserves to be in the NBA.

653
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: I mean, rip to Kimbo Slice, you know, he was

654
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: just like a street fighter and then he got into

655
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: the UFC and became very successful like that. There was

656
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: a great story about this Laker guy who spent about

657
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: ten years in the G League, in the developmental League,

658
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: and then he finally got called up and he scored like,

659
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, like twenty some points in his first

660
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: game and he was about like my age, like thirty something.

661
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: I dang, I forgot his name now, but he was

662
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: like the oldest rookie or whatever, and he was great. Well,

663
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: then you got that Mark Wahlberg movie about the football

664
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: player that walked onto the Eagles The Invincible and I

665
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: think it's called Invincible. It's a Disney movie and it's

666
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 3: based on a real life guy forgot his name, but

667
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: it was an open call out to be a receiver

668
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: on the Philadelphia Eagles. And Mark Wahlberg plays his character

669
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: in the movie and he actually did it, and he

670
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: became an NFL player.

671
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible.

672
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah. But also, of course this person probably

673
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: played in high school.

674
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, right, So that's what they

675
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: don't tell you.

676
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

677
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: There are a lot of those Disney movies with one word,

678
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: and now I'm picturing myself in one called Wonderful my

679
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: True sports Story. So I just have to find the

680
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: sport that I can kind of be a miracle player in.

681
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: I've tried. I guess it would probably be badminton. That's

682
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: the only sport I can play.

683
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, are you really good at it?

684
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: It's the only sport I like to It's because it's

685
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: you know.

686
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: The it's really hard. It's really hard. You really break

687
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: a sweat I plan to do.

688
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: You're running around, you're batting around. But the nice thing

689
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: for me is there's no hard object flying at my face.

690
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: The shuttlecock is very it's not intimidating.

691
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Well, it's so crazy because you can hit the shuttlecock

692
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: as hard as you want. Mike Tyson can hit that

693
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: shuttlecock and it's only going to go at a particular speed.

694
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: It's never going to go faster. So you can really

695
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: let your rage out, you know, on the shuttlecock, and

696
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: it just kind of floats on you. It's very interesting.

697
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the floating aspect of it. It's like

698
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: the one sport where I'm almost certain I'm not going

699
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: to get injured.

700
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Yeah, I feel like you get

701
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: a lot of like lateral movement. You might like blow

702
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: your knee out.

703
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy to blow a knee out, but

704
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: if I as long as I don't have like a concussion.

705
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, slamming against the side of my face. It's

706
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: a non contact sport right right now. Back to what

707
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: I derailed it really quickly. But what I was going

708
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: to ask you is growing up in Hong Kong, where

709
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: you ever like, Oh, I might be a professional ping

710
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: pong player someday.

711
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I was actually very good. I was probably one of

712
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: the best players under the age of thirteen in Hong Kong. Noo. Yeah, yeah,

713
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: I was on TV being interviewed. I was playing tournaments

714
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but I was you know how

715
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan and Tom Brady has that like winter mentality.

716
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I don't have it, but like when

717
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: I get to like really pressureus situations like the finals

718
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: to semi final, I kind of I choke. I got

719
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: the hips, as they say in the sports world, so

720
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: I will never actually make it that far. Where's My

721
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: brother made it pretty far in tournaments, but I had

722
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: like better form, you know and everything, so I looked

723
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: more promising, but when it came to actually performing, I

724
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: wasn't that great. But yeah, the first few times I

725
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: was on TV was in Hong Kong, like news, you know,

726
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: playing right, pretty crazy.

727
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: Did you ever win any like trophies or prize money

728
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 2: or anything.

729
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: I think I won a couple of bronze medals, like

730
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: nothing crazy, you know, maybe a school tournament or like

731
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: a local club tournament. But my brother actually has a

732
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: couple of gold trophies.

733
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what does your brother do now?

734
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't you know, he's he's in finance. It's nothing,

735
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: you know, crazy yeah, the dream is dead. No, he's

736
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: not a professional ping pong player. No. No, yeah, he's

737
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: actually the head coach for No.

738
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: He just won the Olympics.

739
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: Look it up.

740
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 2: Were your parents did they encourage you? Were they like, oh,

741
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 2: maybe our kids are.

742
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they played it too, and it's a great for

743
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: especially older people now, you know, to keep your mind

744
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: fresh and your brain fresh, and it's so fun. Yeah. Yeah,

745
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: they really encourage me. I remember my dad took me

746
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: to all these training camps, took me to practice all

747
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: the time. It's just like you know, a good like

748
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: soccer mom here would take their kids to practice or whatever.

749
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: And they really took it seriously. I don't think they

750
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: ever thought like, oh, I'll be like so. I think

751
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: they were hoping I wouldn't be a professional because I

752
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: would be a professional. I'll do that. But there's no

753
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: money in it.

754
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: That's what I's gonna ask. Yeah, it doesn't seem to

755
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: be a super lucrative sport. Not not really.

756
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: You can get into coaching and stuff like that, but

757
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: it's pretty It's like one of those sports where like

758
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: you know, articles written about how Olympians become broke after

759
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: a few years. It's like one of those, right right?

760
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: And is there anything beyond just playing ping pong to

761
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: get better at it? Is there like any training regimen

762
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: or anything, or is it just playing?

763
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh? Interesting? You know, I was always very small as

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: a kid, so I wasn't very strong because ping pong

765
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: you can really whip the hell out of the ball, right,

766
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: you know, unlike you know a shuttlecock, where I feel

767
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: like there's like a a maximum velocity. So I was

768
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: always a bit weak. But I stopped playing before I

769
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: hit puberty, so I don't know. Like I've played it

770
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: as an adult just for fun. I can still like

771
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: serve like a really nice ball and like whatever, but

772
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm not that good anymore. Like a lot of my

773
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: friends can beat me if you just have practice, because

774
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: my body is completely changed. I don't know the dimension

775
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: of the table anymore. Like now, if I hit the

776
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: ball the same way I would have hit any one

777
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: other kids, it would just go out of balance, you know,

778
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 3: right right. But I want to get back into it. Actually,

779
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: I wish up the space for a ping pong table

780
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: here or something, But the only like ping pong club

781
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: I can find is at the way in Santa Monica,

782
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: which is so far.

783
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a drive.

784
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know.

785
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: So you need to open another chapter. You need to

786
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: open one in your neighborhood.

787
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe get a kind of community ping pong tournament going.

788
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm now wondering can large people play ping pong very

789
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: well as a small person. I mean, I'm actually horrible

790
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: at ping pong, but I do feel like if I

791
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: put any effort in, I would be okay because I'm

792
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: essentially the height of a table.

793
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, it's a lot about reflexes

794
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: and reach. So you could be sure because the table

795
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: was not all that long. But if you watch the Olympics,

796
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: there are a couple of people that's like six six

797
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: feet taw six two. That's play very well as long

798
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: as you have to reflexes because you have that reach

799
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: that you can get around the table more. You know,

800
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 3: as long as you have good lateral movement, you're good. Yeah.

801
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: Ping pong for me was one of those things that

802
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: I felt like every other kid learned to play without me,

803
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: and then suddenly I'm over at someone's house they have

804
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: a ping pong table, and I just don't play at

805
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: all because I don't want to reveal that I have

806
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: no idea how to play, never got good at it.

807
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's fine, there's no shame with you as an

808
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: American person not playing ping pong. For me, a lot

809
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: of people are a lot of my friends know that

810
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: I grew up in Hong Kong know that I grew

811
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: up playing ping pong, so they always challenged me to

812
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: ping pong. Oh, and I'm not good, and they've been practicing.

813
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm not good anymore. You know. I'm in practicing, in

814
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: practicing in the house, and when they beat me, they

815
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: think it's the greatest thing ever, you know, But if

816
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: I win, then it's really neither here or there, so.

817
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: There's no there's actually no winning for you.

818
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 3: Lose lose situation.

819
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: What a drag.

820
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I don't play ping pong anymore, but I

821
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: do want to get back to it. Secretly trained for

822
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: a while and then go beat my friends.

823
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: That's what you need to do, just blow everybody away. Yeah,

824
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: you always have the personal satisfaction.

825
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only win I have is really a truly

826
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: like a blowout. If I blow somebody out, like.

827
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Right, or got to just be the ultimate player in

828
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: the community.

829
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

830
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: Do you play any regular tennis.

831
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: No, I did play like in pea class in high school.

832
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: They'll rotate sports and say the real tennis players will

833
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 3: go to the tennis teams there, non Pea class. So

834
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: I was better in tennis than regular kids, right, but

835
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm not good at tennis. It's different. It requires a

836
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: lot more wrist strength and like, it's just different. And

837
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: let me ask you about pickleball. Do you know, I

838
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: don't know what pickleball is to me.

839
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: It seems like a weird in between ping pong tennis

840
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say croquet. I feel like the ball

841
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: is much harder. It's like the ball is like like

842
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: rubber or something.

843
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: It's like a drunk guy sport, right, It's like middle

844
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: age drunk guys, weekend warriors go play pickleball and then

845
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: drink like twelve cores lights.

846
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: It does sound like a drunk game.

847
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's not like a real Olympic sport.

848
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: It's like a we can't warrant drunk guy sport, which

849
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: is great.

850
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 2: I love those They made us play it in gym

851
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: in high school, but I think that just speaks to it.

852
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: Did whatever was happening in my high school. I can't

853
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: say for sure. I mean the same person who was

854
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: teaching us pickleball was also teaching us how to drive

855
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: and probably biology, so it's not deal. Well, this is

856
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: very exciting.

857
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: I love the feel of how light a ping pong

858
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: ball is. It's great. It's like a little stress relief.

859
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: You get post around till you can learn how to juggle.

860
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: I can.

861
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: I can do a mild one handed juggling.

862
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: Great. Back into that ping pong bong is actually very

863
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: hard to juggle. I gotta stay light, too light to

864
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: have no weight. But you know, I thought maybe in

865
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: case you didn't play ping pong, you can always use

866
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: it for beer pong.

867
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: I've never played beer pong.

868
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: What you never play beer pong?

869
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: My life is so empty?

870
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: Well, it's not empty, maybe you just well beer pong

871
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: scenarios are. I feel like once you miss it past

872
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: like twenty one, you shouldn't be like a thirty year

873
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 3: old man playing beer.

874
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: That would be an alarming turn for my life of

875
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: something that it's like playing beer pong.

876
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, if my girlfriend comes home, I'm just playing beer

877
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: pong with my buddy. That's that's very alarming.

878
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Does anyone ever play beer pong? Solo that feels like

879
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: the darkest of all.

880
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know how you could do it, but

881
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: I've seen arcade machines where you play beer pong against

882
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: computer really yeh yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting. I like it.

883
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I was in an arcade recently and it was just

884
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: a wild experience. I mean, obviously they hadn't been in

885
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: anything like that since the pandemic, and I hadn't been

886
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: in an arcade probably in fifteen years, so it was

887
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: really a sensory overload.

888
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: I love arcade, and now they're bringing it back as

889
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: like people our age like thirty. I don't know how

890
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: old you are, but like me, I'm a thirty three,

891
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: like thirty some year olds. Like kind of hip comeback thing.

892
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: You know. There's like coin op that's like really cool.

893
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: You get a couple of beers and everything. It's really fun.

894
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: I enjoy it quite a lot. Like I've done a

895
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: lot of dates there in first dates, and I used

896
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: to live very close to this place called Buzzbies and

897
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: I used to go three times a week.

898
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never heard of Buzzby's.

899
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: It's really a sports spot, but it has like one

900
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: basketball machine, two ski ball machines and like Big Hunt,

901
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: So me and my buddies will just go there and

902
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: hang out. It's really fun.

903
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: I love I love an arcade. Do you have a

904
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: favorite arcade arcade game?

905
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean I like Big Buck Hunt? Okay, sure, I

906
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: like Big Buck Hunt. But because the thing is, I

907
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: love all the shooter games. Well, you want to know

908
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, Like Time Crisis is a classic.

909
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. I've played a million

910
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Time Crisis House of the Day. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

911
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: You never played beer pong, You've been to many of arcades.

912
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. As you know. Look, I'm the biggest nerd

913
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: on the planet.

914
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry now that I just think you've never done anything.

915
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah but yeah, Time Crisis was fun, but that requires

916
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: so many coins to beat the game, and I never

917
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: end up like beating the game. And there's this one

918
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: game I'm absolutely obsessed with. They have it Dave and

919
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: Busters and a lot of major arcades. It's a little

920
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: baseball bat. Then you get to pull back and the

921
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: little tiny baseball rolls at you, and then you released

922
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: the bat and you try to get a home run

923
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 3: of one out, too out, whatever, it's really fun.

924
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: So it's kind of like like a miniature pinball machine

925
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: or something.

926
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

927
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And at Dave and Busters you get tickets for that.

928
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, those always wanted to get enough tickets

929
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: to get a prize have yet to do it.

930
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: I was. I was never able to do that in

931
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: Hong Kong, like the Hong Kong version Chuck and Cheese

932
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: or whatever, because you know, we just play and you know,

933
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: you waste some money and then you get a pizza

934
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: and you lead. But then as an adult, I have

935
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: the exact same goal, right. And there was David Busters

936
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: down at my house back in the day when I

937
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: used to live in Hollywood, So I used to go

938
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: there and there was a Simpson soccer game where it's

939
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: like Homer Simpson would toggo back and forth and you

940
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: try to kick a soccer ball. There's one soccer ball

941
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: and each time you get it past them will bounce

942
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: back and you get like five points, right right. So

943
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: what I did. I grabbed three basketballs from the machine

944
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: next to me, and I have four balls and I

945
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: would just like be on my knees and throw these

946
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: balls at at the at the back of the goal

947
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: and it's just boom boom boom boo boo. And every

948
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: time I'll get like two hundred tickets. And that same

949
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: night I got enough tickets to in a Huntington Beach

950
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: slow cooker. Oh that's incredible for I know, I know,

951
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: it's the best thing. I still have that slow cooker.

952
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: It's amazing. I'm never thrown away.

953
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say that same night

954
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: you were banned permanently from David Busters.

955
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: No, no, nobody caught me, and nobody caught me. I

956
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: had a buddy, I had a spot her. I had

957
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: a buddy spot me. Like, in case any David Buster's

958
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: employee came by, I would I would stop.

959
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm sending this audio to David Busters. That'll be the

960
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: first people to hear it.

961
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: What do I go to jail? What do I go

962
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: to jail? I just admitted to like fraud. Basically, Oh

963
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: my god.

964
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: For the slow cooker, you've probably had many a good meal.

965
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well actually I used it twice and I was like,

966
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm better off just cooking it regularly. Like, who the

967
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: fuck is this slow cooker? I guess if you have

968
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: a nine to five, you the point is you dump

969
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: it in and you come back. You know, but I

970
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: don't like I just cook. You know, it's fine, right right?

971
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: Wow, so many things revealed on this podcast.

972
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: I know I'm a fraudster. I'm a froster. You never

973
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: played beer pong? Who are we?

974
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: It's shame, It's absolutely shameful. Big Five is regretting ever

975
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: hiring you. Oh look, it's time to play a game.

976
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: I want to play a game called Gift Master. Okay,

977
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.

978
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Eight.

979
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: Okay. I'll explain how the game is going to work

980
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: in just a minute. I have to do some light calculating.

981
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: In the meantime. You can promote something, you can talk

982
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: about something you're excited about, you can recommend something. Whatever

983
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: you want. I'll be right back.

984
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: Okay. Cool. I have a great rom com starring me,

985
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: Nina do Brev and Darren Barnett coming out on Netflix

986
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: November fifth. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be very cute.

987
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: It's a Christmas movie for all the family for the holidays,

988
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: and your boy Jimmy O Yang will be the lead

989
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: of a rom com. Just check it out. And I

990
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: know I know you Bridge are You're a big rock

991
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: climber guy. You know an RII I climb rocks in

992
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: that movie. Man, really, you're gonna love it.

993
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Wait, did you actually have to climb rocks?

994
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is I have a fear of height.

995
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: So we went to like an indoor gym and it

996
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: was my first time climbing rocks or climbing whatever what

997
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: do you call it? Rock climbing walls? And I got there.

998
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: It was very scary for me. But the plot of

999
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: the one of the plots is that my character is

1000
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: supposed to be like a professional. He goes there. He

1001
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: owns a store call all Things Outdoors, you know, and

1002
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: he's the professional, right And I'm supposed to teach Nina

1003
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: Dobev's character how to climb rocks. But she is a

1004
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: daredevil and an athlete, so she's just rackind of. And

1005
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: so we had a lot of acting had to be involved,

1006
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: where I have to pretend I'm not scared, and she

1007
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: had to pretend she couldn't climb rocks.

1008
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: Oh well, then it's the biggest challenge of both of

1009
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: your careers.

1010
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: It really was. And there was a scene they put

1011
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: us up. There was a crane and a camera where

1012
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: I'm like talking to her trying to calm her down.

1013
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can get down here, it's fine, it's fine.

1014
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: On the top of the rock wall. Like I don't

1015
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: like thirty feet I was so scared, but I have

1016
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: to act like the level. This is really Oscar level

1017
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 3: acting in a rom com. Academy, please take notice. Talk

1018
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: to your boy academy.

1019
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see this.

1020
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really sweet movie.

1021
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to focus in on that part of the

1022
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: performance and I'm gonna I'm just gonna rip into it.

1023
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: If if I'm not convinced.

1024
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as a real rock climber. You tell me

1025
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: what you think. Love Heart November fifth on Netflix.

1026
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: People should watch that. Jimmy's a delight and everything. So

1027
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about that. I think I had a

1028
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: psychic a couple of years ago. Tell me that the

1029
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: rom com renaissance is upon us. That was his big revelation.

1030
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: I like Netflix. You see all the rom coms coming out,

1031
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: always gets number one. You know, Crazy Rich Asians was

1032
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: a rom com right wonderful in that you know, it's

1033
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: really making a comeback. People just want comfort food, you.

1034
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And I love it. I mean,

1035
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: you know you kind of know what the ending is

1036
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: going to be. With every wrong but some fun jokes.

1037
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: It's just a nice love story.

1038
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all for each other despite everything.

1039
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get a little wrong, you get a low calm.

1040
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all anybody ever asked for. Exactly, Jimmy, this

1041
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: is how we play gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts,

1042
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: three items things you could give away, and then I'm

1043
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: gonna name three celebrities, and you're going to tell more

1044
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: famous people or what have you. Is you're gonna tell

1045
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: me which gift you'd give which person, and why does

1046
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: that make sense?

1047
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: It's like fuck Mary Kill? But get is.

1048
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: It's kind of a gifty version where everybody walks away

1049
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: with a beautiful gift.

1050
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: Maybe we should make it like, what are the three

1051
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: gifts you give me? I choose to gift one to someone,

1052
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: I choose to not give a gift to someone and

1053
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: keep it for myself, and then the third one I

1054
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: throw it at someone's face. That's more like the fuck

1055
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 3: Mary Kill version.

1056
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: Jimmy, get your own podcast. You're welcome to start a

1057
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: competing gift podcasts. Do your game there, but we've got

1058
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 2: the audio. People will know that you, you know, came

1059
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: on here and were inspired by me.

1060
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay.

1061
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: These are the three gifts you're going to be giving away.

1062
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: Number one is a corn nuts variety pack, so you know.

1063
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: Like a big fan of corn nuts. I love a

1064
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: corn nut. Who doesn't? Do you have a French ranch?

1065
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: That one is fantastic, that's I think it's kind of

1066
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: the dark horse of the corn nuts. Number two you'll

1067
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: be giving away a canoe. And number three you'll be giving.

1068
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 3: Away a pack of dogs. So that's a whole pack

1069
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: of dogs. What kind of dogs, adult dogs, puppies, what

1070
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: kind of dogs.

1071
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: It's dogs of all shapes and sizes. Whether they're snarling

1072
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: or not is up to you.

1073
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: Okay, they could be mean dogs or no. Yeah, we

1074
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: don't know, we don't know.

1075
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. The people you're going to be giving them to

1076
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: are the following people. Number one, we love our Penelope Crews.

1077
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Who does love Penelope?

1078
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she's cool.

1079
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: Number two is Craig T. Nelson. Craig T. Nelson of

1080
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: course played Coach on the TV show Coach.

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Speaker 3: He's in a lot of stuff. I remember I saw

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00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: him in a movie that I just recently watch me

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00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: look up Wikipedia. Craig T. Nelson here, my name is

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00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: Earl uh huh interesting Turner and Hooch Poulter Guys stir crazy.

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00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: He's always kind of like the bad guy right right

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00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: in Polterguys, he's the dad mm hm oh yeah, he's

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00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 3: either dad or bad guys, not the Poltergeiston Poltergeist, although

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00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: that would be incredible. Craig T. Nelson Okay, okay.

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: And finally, uh, Uma Thurman.

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Speaker 3: Uma Thurman. Oh. I love Uma Thurman.

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00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: I think everybody loves Zuma. When she said her best,

1092
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: She's unstoppable.

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00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: You know. I feel like Craig T. Nelson is a

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Speaker 3: corn nuts guy hessalt on Earth, I know, like a

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00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: dad type guy, you know, right. I feel like the

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00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: ladies will be very confused if I game of corn nuts,

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: you know, a pack of dogs anyone else?

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Speaker 2: A canoe?

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Speaker 3: A canoe? Oh okay. I feel like Uma Thurman can

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00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: really do a canoe, Like she can actually handle and

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00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: you'll appreciate it. Uh, Penelope Cruise. Maybe I'm wrong, but

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00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: she seems a little too delicate, you know what I mean,

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00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: Like she's always playing or at least she's very playing,

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00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: very beautiful, flowy, delicate character. I feel like she would

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00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: not appreciate canoe and just hanging on her wall, you know.

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00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: And I'll give her a pack of very nice dogs,

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00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: you know, cute dogs, cute dogs.

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00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: She could see Penelope surrounded by like a pack of

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: trained dogs.

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Speaker 3: I loved her this recently a couple of years ago

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00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: in American crime story The Maasaci One.

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00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: She was so good, she was that was I.

1113
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: Mean, this is that's my favorite show I think on TV.

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00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: It just doesn't come on enough. You know, it's only

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: been three seasons, like five years. Right, But she looked

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00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: like because she played Donna Tellavisacchi, right, looks like she

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00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: can use a pack of attack dogs, just unleashing them

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00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: from her Miami manor exactly unsuspecting beach goers. Yeah, so

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00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: just give her a bag of randomized dogs and she

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00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: can go figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Excellently played. I mean, I think you really just unlocked

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: it immediately. Of course, coraig T Nelson wants cort nuts.

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00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 2: He probably has a basement full of corn nuts as

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: we speak.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: The man was built to chomp coord nuts. So yeah,

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00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: just beautifully played you.

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Speaker 3: I mean thank you. Do I get a prize? Do

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00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: I get my gift back?

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00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: You get a slow cooker?

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00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you'll be getting a beautiful and you got

1133
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: out the honest way this time.

1134
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: You know, I don't have to cheat.

1135
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: This was kind of a lesson for you ultimately.

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00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1137
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes if you just put in an honest day's work,

1138
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: you will get a slow cooker.

1139
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just wait fifteen years, you get a slow cooker.

1140
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: Your time will come. Your time will come, legitimate slow cooker. Okay,

1141
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: this is the final segment of the podcast. This is

1142
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 3: called I said no emails. People write into I said

1143
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: no gifts at gmail dot com. You know, these people

1144
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: have various issues, problems, concerns, questions, what have yous? And

1145
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: would you help me answer one? Yeah, give me one.

1146
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: So let me turn on the lights. Yeah.

1147
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: You're in total darkness at this point, and I feel

1148
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: so bad. It was an interesting day to night there.

1149
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: I know, all right, we've done this podcast so long.

1150
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: We've been here for four years.

1151
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: It just feels I spent two days. Oh my god.

1152
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what this one says, says deer Bridger

1153
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: and disobedient guest. I am pregnant with my first child

1154
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: due February twenty twenty two. I've hired a doula who

1155
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: is a trained professional to assist before, during, and after.

1156
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: The burthen Oh good. She will be.

1157
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: Providing emotional and physical support during this very big life

1158
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: moment for both me and my spouse. I'd like to

1159
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: get her thank you for being part of this journey.

1160
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: She's an early thirties woman who loves social justice, gardening,

1161
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: and her dog ps. She is being compensated for her work,

1162
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: so I'd prefer to keep the gift under one hundred dollars. Okay, well,

1163
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: I'll write peace and blessings and that's from C. Just

1164
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: the letter c C. See her doula is she wants

1165
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: to get her a gift, but she doesn't want to

1166
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: go too far because this is not a volunteer doula.

1167
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: Uh huh, Yeah, it's a fully paid doula. Yes.

1168
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know too many volunteer doulas, but I assume

1169
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 2: they're out there in the world somewhere.

1170
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: What thirties, I thought, Usually it's older, right, I always.

1171
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: Kind of imagine kind of an earthy, you know, fifties

1172
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: to sixties.

1173
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a wise lady that had her own kids.

1174
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,479
Speaker 2: Right, This person, for all we know, has never seen

1175
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: a birth and is kind of running around town as

1176
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: a scammer.

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 3: Maybe c she just givet her the kid.

1178
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: I love this, you.

1179
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: Know, it's under one hundred bucks. Take take it off

1180
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: her own hands. The doulas obviously likes kids.

1181
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: That's why she was obsessed with this baby.

1182
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: I think it's the perfect gift. You just give her

1183
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: the kid.

1184
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: It's truly no cost, zero, deeply meaningful. It means a

1185
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: lot to you, It means a lot to this doul.

1186
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: It actually saves you a lot of money long term,

1187
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: a lot of grief. Yeah, a lot of grief.

1188
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 2: I think that. I mean, I'm almost upset that the

1189
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: answer was right there in front of me and I

1190
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: didn't go for it.

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's why you got me.

1192
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: Man, Why have the baby if you're not going to

1193
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: give it away.

1194
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: As a gift exactly? Yeah.

1195
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: I maybe keep the next baby, but this first one.

1196
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: You've had this woman in her thirties hanging around giving

1197
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: you advice, emotionally supporting you and your spouse.

1198
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: And this dula sounds like a good mother, you know,

1199
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: in the social justice.

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00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: Right, she loves doll. Oh yes, as far as we

1201
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 2: can tell, has no other children in her life.

1202
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1203
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what a surprise that would be for the stula.

1204
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: The baby comes out of the hospital. Here you go,

1205
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: deal with it. It's your thing now.

1206
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be your doula. Now you know your little

1207
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: role reversal.

1208
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: That's a really yeah. Flipping the script almost immediately, it's

1209
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: like it's like.

1210
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: Captain Phillips, Ye, look at me, look at me. I'm

1211
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: your doula.

1212
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Now it's a real Tom Hanks moment. This could be

1213
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: your big Tom Hanks performance. M h, Jimmy, I mean, well,

1214
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: you did the Gift Master situation perfectly. You did this perfectly.

1215
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: Well.

1216
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: You should have been the first guest on this podcast.

1217
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: It's a shame it's taken this long. I blame Jessica Gow.

1218
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: I should just host this podcast. Do you make a

1219
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: lot of money? Like, can I just have your again?

1220
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you're going to be going to prison as once

1221
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: David Buster's catches wind of all of this.

1222
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: Damn it.

1223
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, maybe post prison that could be your.

1224
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: Well, I can rappers make albums in prison. I can

1225
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: surely host a podcast from prison. Very true? Ya, how does.

1226
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: I guess you just get you know, your daily alloted

1227
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: phone time or whatever.

1228
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how like Shine Back in the Day

1229
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: on Big Boy Records, right, Bad Boy Records. Yeah, it's

1230
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: just like through a phone line basically, and it's a

1231
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: very cool mix.

1232
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: Actually, it adds a nice grit. I mean, I think,

1233
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: if anything I mean this podcast, the first word that

1234
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: comes to mind is grit is post prison. So I

1235
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: think we'll just hand it over to you once you've

1236
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: done your time.

1237
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: Great sounds good. That's a deal, Jimmy.

1238
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have not only have these ping

1239
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: pong balls in my life, but to have been educated

1240
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: on the sport. I feel. I think I'm a jock.

1241
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: Now you are. You're going to go to Big Five?

1242
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: Now, I think I in the last half hour, I

1243
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: have made my transformation.

1244
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm a jock. Let's go, we'll grow out, we'll brow out.

1245
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 3: We'll go to Big five. Get you some weights, get

1246
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: you a couple of punching bags, go to the GANC,

1247
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: get some protein shakes.

1248
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: You know, I am ready to live my sports life.

1249
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1250
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. I had just

1251
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: a delightful time.

1252
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: That was fun. Man, thank you and thanks for accepting

1253
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: my gift. Well, thank you boyfriend for accepting my gift.

1254
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's going to be a painful healing process, but.

1255
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: Big fight tonight. I can see it coming. Big fight tonight.

1256
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, listener, I have to go get in a fight

1257
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: with my boyfriend. So this is the end of the podcast.

1258
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to be screaming for the rest of the night.

1259
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: I hope that that's not something that you have to

1260
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: deal with, So it's time for you to move on.

1261
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm excited for whatever you have next, your next chapter

1262
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: after this podcast. We'll talk again soon. I love you,

1263
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Bye bye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production.

1264
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson,

1265
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann.

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: You must follow.

1267
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: The show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's

1268
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1269
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen

1270
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me,

1271
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: and why not leave a review while you're there. It's

1272
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: really the least you could do, considering everything I do

1273
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: for you, And if you're interested in advertising on the show,

1274
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: go to midrol dot com slash ads.

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01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: I invit, did you hear fun? A man? Myself perfectly clear?

1276
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: But you're a guest to me. You gotta come to

1277
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: me empty, and I said, no gifts. Your presence is

1278
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: present in love. I already had too much stuff. So

1279
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me?

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: Kay?