WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - A Big Road Test In Cleveland 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.480 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:10.440 He got Jack. This is the big red Rain presented 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.760 by Santanford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown Slim to 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.759 the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:23.079 flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:29.000 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford State Farm? 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.159 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:37.800 and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:46.680 Slash podcasts, The Rods Rising Guard, Temperaturizing vision, flurring, rage 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:51.080 taking over. Here's Paul kelvc. Get the popcorn ready, It's 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.120 gonna be a show, and Ron will fleep. It doesn't 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:59.760 get any better than that. Hors unleash the far Well. 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.920 We already have bad news from Thursday Night Football Round. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:09.760 Wolfley zach Ertz scored early touchdown catch by zach Ertz, 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:14.440 and the price just went up. You got a fantasy team, Paul, No, no, no, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.680 there's no fantasy. I'm talking about Steve Kahn. I'm talking 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:22.119 about Steve Kahn making a trade for zach Ertz. And 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.839 you know, the price keeps going up when zach Ertz 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.160 keep making he keeps making plays and getting into the 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.319 end zone for the Philadelphia Eagles. Paul I did not 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.959 hear that story that Steve Khin was all over zach 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:37.959 ERT's interesting. You just speculating. Okay, there you go, Yeah, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:39.880 like I was doing in August when you know, I 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.679 thought maybe that might go down in August. Well, you 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.280 know what, here in October there might really be a 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.000 reason here on the big Red rage Paul KELVC and 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:53.120 one birthday, boy, you stop it, please stop it. Wolf. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.480 I mean your whole Twitter feed is littered with thank 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.000 you bro, happy birthdays here and there. I mean, so 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.720 you know you you've made it very public Wolf with birthday. Paul, 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.320 I did not do anything, and you know it. You know, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.559 look at me, look at me. How are you doing 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.520 here on your birthday? You know what? Polly, I'm doing 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.200 okay right now, a little hungry as you would imagine, right. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.440 I mean, it is the dinner hour right now, and 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.560 it is my birthday, and therefore we will have a 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.280 birthday dinner or when I get done. And Polly, I 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.959 believe there's going to be some gumbo. I believe there's 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.680 going to be some jumbalaya and Polly, it's not gonna 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.360 surprise you, but there's going to be some dirty rice. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.240 Once upon a time you left the az for Cleveland 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.360 and never came back. The Arizona Cardinals are going to 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.240 Cleveland this weekend, and we'll talk to a guy here 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.160 momentarily who's definitely put down a birthday dinner or three. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.639 Zach Allen, all two hundred eighty five pounds of him. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.280 What a game he had against those forty nine ers. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.760 Ron Wolfully, what did you learn about your Arizona Cardinals 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.359 and that victory against the forty nine ers. I heard 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.520 one network analis say I didn't know the Arizona Cardinals 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.680 could win ugly. Yes, you know what. That was my thought, 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.519 Paul right there, the resiliency that they showed, the Arizona 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.080 Cardinals won a game of toughness. For me right now, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.560 I will tell you, PAULI, this was my favorite victory 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.040 over the forty nine ers. It was for a couple 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.320 of reasons. Granted, I mean, I know a lot of 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.639 people are going to look at the Rams and say, oh, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.080 come on, Wolf, they beat the best team in the 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.480 league at the time. The Rams were considered to be 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.400 the best team in the National Football League, and they 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.800 went out and thrashed them and Sofi Stadium. And for me, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.359 I will tell you right now, Yeah that was that 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.400 was a great win, no doubt about it. But they 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.440 played so well in all three phases, offensively, defensively, and 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.160 in transition with special teams. To me against the forty 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.160 nine ers, another division foe, against the forty nine ers, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.640 where you didn't play well, how do you how do 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.840 you do? Then do you go out and still find 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.640 a way to win a game? The Cardinals struggled, They 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.440 fought themselves in that game, and yet somehow, some way 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.600 they found just enough enough to make plays and win 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.320 the game. Yeah, the Niners, with a rookie quarterback making 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.680 his first ever NFL start, actually had more total yards 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.960 than the Arizona Cardinals. And it's not just us using 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.600 that four letter word. Here's Kyler Murray after the win. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.599 You're not going to score thirty every weekend, but you know, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.000 we got to win. You know, it was tough to watch, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.080 but it's it's, you guess, a good thing. You know, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.800 there's a lot to look forward to, a lot that 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.800 we could have been better at I don't look at 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.440 as a negative so much. And you know, obviously after 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.880 the gaming feels like that, but when you watch it 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.360 and go back and look at it, there's a lot 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:37.920 of things to be excited about because we can be 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.600 so much better. And he used the word ugly at 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.240 different times in that press conference, and look, you're five 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.640 and over the first time since nineteen seventy four. There's 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.960 nothing ugly about that, we get it. But but well, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.039 any hallmark of any winning team in any sport, it's 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.680 different names at different times in different ways. Yeah, this 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.839 was a different way to win a game. No longer 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.000 can you shut down the Cardinals for examples, shut down 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.880 a d hop and have no other options. We've seen 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.320 that earlier. In this case, you saw a Cardinals team 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.760 that struggled on offense. But guess what, the defense came 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.920 out and gave up a single touchdown. Do you realize 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.680 that's the first time in over two years the San 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.640 Francisco forty nine ers seven held to ten points or fewer. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.600 So for all the backup quarterbacks that Kyle Shannon and 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.800 has used in all the fifth and six string running backs, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.560 he always finds a way to put a lot of 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.280 points on the board. Yeah against the Cardinals. No, you're 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.159 right about that, Paul, But I have to tell you 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.640 right now to listen. Do you need your best players 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.680 to play their best when it matters the most? And 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.560 I am sorry, I'm going to go back to the 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:45.640 midway actually halfway through the fourth quarter where the Arizona 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.719 Cardinals took over the ball and suddenly it was the 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.680 Kyler Murray Deondre Hopkin show. Yep, right, PAULI I mean 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.360 these guys, would you say those are big names, Paul 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.520 in the National Football League winning doubt? Just throw it 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:01.800 up right, exactly right. They started to make plays, Paulie 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:05.279 when it mattered the most, and suddenly back to back 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.159 plays by Kyler Murray and d hop and suddenly you 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:15.080 had a critical game winning touchdown. Cardinals get to win, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.480 but they lose their starting center Rodney Hudson. He exited 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.799 that game in the second half with a rib injury 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.799 and he is going to be out for this week. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.600 So those are some big shoes to fill in. Fact, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.640 here's Cliff Kingsbury talking about Max Garcia. Guess what year up? Yeah? 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.880 Really proud of Max stepping in there. I don't know 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.240 if it's filesil of Phil Rodney's shoes, He's brings so 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.760 much to the table. But Max, you know, last week 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.640 played great, stepped in this week and really helped us 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.400 win that game. There you go, Cliff Kingsbury after the game. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.240 If you go to Acy Cardinals dot com, you can 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.760 read a story boy Darren Urban is really insightful and 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.520 just how close Max Scarcia was to quitting the game 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.599 after that torn Aco when he played for Vance Joseph 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.040 in Denver. And but he is back. And I tell 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.400 you what, Wolf, based on how he filled in earlier 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:00.800 in the season and then what I saw in the 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.039 second happ against the nine Ers, He's not gonna have 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.560 the acumen of a Rodney Hudson or the experience at 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.360 center of a Mandess. He bring an edge, he plays 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.400 with some nasty yeah, and so at least they have 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.840 that up front and with the rest of the old 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.440 line around him. And then Kyler Murray's you know, elusiveness. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.960 We'll see how that goes against Cleveland and what is 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.240 a very stout defensive front. Yeah, Paul, it really is. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.360 I mean, this is the strength of this football team, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.440 that being the Cleveland Browns, their defensive line. Boy, does 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.840 that sound familiar? Does it? It? Based on the forty 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.280 nine ers and just going through the forty nine ers 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.760 game and what the forty nine ers bring to the 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.800 table with that defense, in particular their defensive line, Paully, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.680 that's the strength of that team and it sets the 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.120 tone for the forty nine ers as well, especially when 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.840 they have a rookie quarterback out there competing. The Cleveland 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.000 Browns are exactly the same way. Oh my goodness, Polly, 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.360 you look at this defense and it's very very sore. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.280 A four three scheme, just like the San Francisco forty 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.840 nine ers. A lot of cover three principles, close the 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.880 middle of the field, play three deep four underneath rush four. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.680 They don't think, they don't feel like they need to 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.840 bring a ton of guys after you. Very much like 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.760 the San Francisco forty nine ers. Once again, and it 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.440 will be no surprise to you, Paul, that Joe Woods. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.080 Joe Woods a defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns, coached 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:33.080 under Robert Sala in twenty nineteen as the dB coach 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.880 and passing game coordinator. Defensive passing game coordinator for the 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.880 Cleveland Browns under Robert Sell in twenty nineteen. Do you 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.480 think he picked up the phone and actually had a 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.839 conversation with the forty nine Ers coaching staff on what 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.280 they did defensively to Kyler Murray, say yes, Paul, because 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.760 he did trust me on that and we know you'll 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.440 see it till you beat it. So yeah, there's gonna 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.160 be a lot of the same principles. And look, it 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.720 was a Cleveland team that led twenty seven thirteen, and 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:08.360 then they got decimated on defense, especially their cornerback position group, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.000 go down to their fourth and fifth string corners, and 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.240 they got torched by Justin Herbert and the Chargers in 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.880 that fourth quarter. As it, Chargers put up twenty six 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.280 points in the fourth quarter, and the Browns ended up 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.320 losing forty seven forty two, and the first team in 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.480 NFL history, by the way, to lose a game when 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.720 you scored forty plus you had more than five hundred 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.240 total yards of offense zero turnovers. That stat is now 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:34.000 four hundred one and one. The Browns the first team 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.480 to lose in that fashion. And we'll do yourself a favor, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.760 don't look at the injury re port for either side 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.760 in this game, because you might lose your appetite for 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.199 your first day dinner. No, you're right about that, Paulie. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.640 But trust me on this. The best defense for the 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.080 Arizona Cardinals will be their offense. Zach Allen, speaking of defense, 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.439 is next on the big red rage presented by Santan 0:09:53.520 --> 0:10:00.960 Ford in Gilbert fourth and goal on the one eleven 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.640 thirty four to go on a half seven nothing Cardinals 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.040 for now, Lance and the pistol Mitchell behind him. The 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.280 Lance comes under center, takes the snaff roll to the right, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.040 Lance running being chased by Chandler Jones. Lance hit at 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.679 the goal line and he did not get in. Oh 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.679 what a hit by Isaiah Simmons. A huge collision at 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.600 the goal line. Bodies are everywhere, but the forty nine 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.040 Ers aren't in the end zone. The Cardinals take over 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:33.400 on downs. Again, sometimes you're the pinata, it's sometimes you're 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.199 the stick. And I believe right now Trey Lance is 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.440 leaking candy from his shoulder. Pats. That's a great call 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.319 right there on a great play, maybe the key play 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.560 in that game that Cardinals win seventeen ten against the 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.920 forty nine Ers, not once, not twice, five different times 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.800 the Niners went for it on four down. They only 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.640 made it once, and that is the first time in 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.679 forty plus years in the NFL that team has generated 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.480 four stops on fourth downs in one game. So when 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.960 Cliff Kingsbury said after the game, I've never seen that before, 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.880 well that's why. And you heard the reaction from Passion 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.480 wolf Ron Wolfiere's truly Paul Kelbc So wol if you 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.760 want to play NFL football and make the big bucks, Yeah, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.120 that's why those guys get paid that big cash, because 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.200 you know what, sometimes there's a big price to pay 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.280 in playing the game. Yeah, that was awesome right there, Polly, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.000 especially at fourth and one right there where the rookie 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:34.080 Tray Lance got lit up. I mean just watching Tanner 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.319 Vallejo and it was really Isaiah Simmons at the bottom 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.880 of it. Tanner Vallejo was definitely right in the mix 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.920 of it, right in the middle of it as well. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.800 But that collision. I could actually hear that collision up 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.320 in the booth, Paul Wham. It was stunning. But Poli, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.520 I have to go back to third and one, go 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.439 back to the play that was before that, that fourth 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.959 and one that everyone saw Trey Lance, Isaiah Simmons here, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.280 huge collision right there. Go back to the play before that. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.040 On third and one, the forty nine ers got into 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.960 the I formation and they tried to run the sprint 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:14.679 pass to the left of what was now listen, it 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.240 was ninety nine, but they tried to run the sprint 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.760 pass to the left where the full back goes out 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.880 in the flat. Kyle Uscheck runs at the end man 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.520 in the line of scrimmage, who was Marcus Golden, and 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.439 then tries to slip by him and get the flat. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.160 The tight end runs the corner. I'm telling you right 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.480 now it was Marcus Golden who foiled the third and 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:40.600 one because he cammered Kyle Uscheck, totally hammered him, and 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.880 then suddenly he was out in the flat and that's 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.480 where JJ Watt actually got the pressure on him. It 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.920 was the third and one that set up the fourth 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.600 and one. Paul Well, that was an unbelievable sequence for 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.160 the Cardinals. D if Trey lance headn't had his Welcome 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.040 to the NFL moment yet, that was definitely it. As 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.360 we say welcome to the Big Red rage to Zach 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.840 Allen who joins us out and h Zach, you tell us. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.640 Where were you on that fourth down stop, Isaiah Simmons, Tanner, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.160 Valley Hill, Chandler Jones coming in there all to clean up, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.120 and deny Trey Lance at the goal line? Were actually 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.440 on the field or do you have a front row 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.040 seat on the white stripe? No, I was, I had 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.440 a front row seat. I was we were in goal line, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.240 U personnel and h the minute that play happened. I mean, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.720 you definitely could feel the whole energy of the game 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.199 change on the sideline, on the field, and it really 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.920 was a special play, Zach. That's the great thing about 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.640 the game of football, isn't it. You can feel momentum 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:42.800 and that was a huge momentum shift right there. Oh yeah, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.800 I mean there's no question about it. I mean, that 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.599 whole game it was you know, I think once it 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.440 always seemed like that play kind of, you know, gave 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.520 us this like, you know, belief that no matter what, 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.720 you know, we're gonna we can hold our own and 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.040 especially when you can do that against a division rival's uh, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.000 it's it's it's huge for just that game, but I 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.880 think for the rest of the season, you know, I 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.120 asked your defensive coordinator, Vanced Joseph today about the Niners 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.040 going forward on fourth down five times. He said, you 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.360 know what, I wasn't really surprised. I wasn't shocked, but 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.680 he was adamant that he has the advantage in those 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.400 situations that, in his words, he can do more on 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.040 his play sheet to stop it than opposing offenses can 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.600 do to execute it and get those short yardage situations. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.080 What do you think about that? And you could tell 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.800 he sort of stood up in his seat a little bit. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.360 I mean, when a team's going forward on fourth down, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.720 you guys take that all personal, don't you. On defense? Yeah, 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.640 especially from you know, a fourth and one, fourth and two, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.560 you kind of understand. And you know, also I think 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.000 they were running those more kind of midfielder in the 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.160 red zone area. But when you're doing a fourth and five, yeah, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.400 you definitely take that personally. And I don't care what 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.040 the analytics said. You know, as a defense, you know, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.200 it's we expect to win those, and yeah, luckily we did. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.440 Zach talked to us about how the Sea Reason is 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.000 going for you personally, not talking about the team, of course, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.800 I'm talking about you personally. How's this season going? Yeah, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.600 I think, uh, you know, obviously not being injured for 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.840 the preseason games it didn't help. Uh So I feel 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.800 like I kind of use those first three games as 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.880 kind of kind of like my preseason hum you know, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.400 Tennessee kind of got my feet under me. And obviously 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.680 it's it's you're lucky to get your feet under you 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.400 when you're when you go three, you know, and it's 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.160 not like, you know, you're losing games and trying to 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:35.680 you know, scramble figure it out. Um. And then uh yeah, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.560 I think it really started to kind of click. And 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.480 Jacksonville made a couple of plays but a little inconsistent, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.200 and then I think it clicked with the rams. I mean, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:48.480 statistically it doesn't look so I felt from like a 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.280 technique standpoint and just uh, you know, like my pass 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.200 rushes I was I was definitely doing you know, good 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.080 things and you know the run that was going away 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.440 from me, but I felt like, you know, I was 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.320 playing the blocks and know those scoop blogs are probably 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.840 the hardest for a three technique. I was playing them 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.080 as well as you know I ever have and as 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.080 well as you can really. But I felt like after 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.760 that game, I was like, Okay, now that I got 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.960 you know, I figured it out. I want to definitely, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.480 you know, work on finishing. So that was a big 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.480 emphasis of mine last week, and I think it kind 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.160 of obviously this pass game versus the forty nine ers, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.280 I think, you know, I approved on that, but I 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.720 still think there's a still more table. And obviously when 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.480 you played with great players like J. J. Chandler, Marcus Corey, 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.120 Rashard Lecky, you know it's uh, you're going to have 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.640 opportunities to have one on ones and it's your job 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.680 to win those. So well, you ended up with a sack, 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.760 five tackles, two tackles for loss, a quarterback hit. Of course, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.800 we all remember your game against Eagles Week fifteen a 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.440 year ago where you had a lemon tackles six solo, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.120 a sack, one and a half tackles for loss of 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.680 QB hit the past defense, How do those two rank, 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.320 I mean in your power poll of NFL performances, those 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:04.880 have to be one two, right, Yeah? I think statistically definitely, yeah, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.320 I definitely was. You know, those are probably two of 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.440 the ones that I remember. And I think also this one, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.000 I think, you know, it's pretty special for me just 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.600 because it's against a division opponent and going against a 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.480 great player like Trent Williams. You know, I think that 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.320 that definitely, you know, gave me some more confidence that 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.520 you know, I've blogged in this league and you know, uh, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.480 knock on what I can do it for a long time. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.520 You know, you guys are number six and points allowed, 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.439 number six, giving up nineteen points a game. Talk to 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.160 me a little bit about your defense and what you 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.080 guys are doing well as a defense right now? What 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.800 are the common denominators in these five games that you 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:50.560 guys have played. Where are you playing well? Zach? Yeah? 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.119 I think the big thing for us defensively is you know, 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:58.359 this is year three with under Vance and then for 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.560 a lot of us, I mean obviously you know there's 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.280 been you know, when you get a guy like j. J. Watt, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.880 but he's really I mean, if you look defensively besides 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:12.800 him and hang on here, we might have lost him. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.800 Might have lost him hanging right on it bar. You 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.280 know what though, that's something we don't site enough. This 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.760 is year three under vanced Joseph, and yeah, there's some 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.960 there are some newcomers, but there are also some young 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.760 guys who are in year two of the system. Who 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.720 are definitely part of the rotation. So there's no longer 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.119 a learning curve. I mean JJ Watt, who was in 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.159 a very similar system with Vance Joseph in Houston, he's 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:37.560 able to come right in. I mean he's j J 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.840 Watt for Pete's sake. But Zach, like you were saying, 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.760 there's no longer that learning curve, right, I mean, guys 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:47.600 are just fully immersed in Vj's system. Yeah, and also too, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.359 I think that we've all been around each other. There's 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:55.280 definitely a big time accountability factor where I think guys 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.840 aren't afraid to call people out for messing up or 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.000 making mistakes. It's you know, we have a job to 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.720 do and we're going to do it to the highest ability. 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.119 And you know, we were saying from the beginning of 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.600 OTA's you know, super Bowl or buzz and I think 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.040 guys genuinely believe that, especially when you looked at the 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.320 guys that were in that meeting room, and it hasn't wavered. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.679 And you know, even though we are doing well and 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.080 we've won all of our games, you know, I think 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.280 we've done a great job of focusing on the next week. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.600 But last year and my rookie year, it seemed like 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.400 when we won games, it was like the end all 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.360 be all, like, you know, like it was as if 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.359 we won the super Bowl, because we weren't used to 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.879 used to that position. But now there definitely is a 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:41.639 different standard and different expectations and very it's really business like. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.840 But also, I mean, this is the most fun that 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.679 I met you. If you ask anybody on our defense 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.480 that these guys have had playing playing defense, I mean 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.720 it's we have a great group of guys and the 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.040 camaraderies as close as it can be, so um, it 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.040 really is a special thing, Zach. For me, just listening 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.440 to you talk, you use the a word accountability, And 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.120 I know that there are people that are listening right 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.879 now and they hear they hear that word thrown around 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:11.000 a lot. Accountability. You know, it's part of your culture, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.520 end and accountability. Can you put into words what that 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.840 really looks like and what that really means for people 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:23.359 that are listening right now, what that accountability means, and 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:28.560 just how important it truly is inside that locker room. Yeah, 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.480 I think, Uh, you know, the way I knew that 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.919 we had accountability and the way that I knew that 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.320 we were going to be special? Is where at seeing 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.760 by guys say they you know it was. It wasn't 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.159 like I'm playing football, you know, for money or to 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.600 get these great stats. It was, you know, our defensive linement. 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.920 We're playing because I want, you know, to keep offensive 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.000 linement off my linebackers. If you know Jordan Hicks doesn't 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.320 get touched by an offensive linement today, that's I know 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.400 I did my job well and if I mess up, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.760 I expect not to just get you that by Jordan, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:02.159 but I want to hold you a lot like you 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.880 should be. Its almost as like you know, you're ashamed 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.760 and you're disappointed in yourself. Yes, I think we do 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.919 a guys definitely understand what the standard is and we 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.880