WEBVTT - Ep 362: Fix My Flip ft. Real Estate Guru Page Turner

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Ambition, ambition, ambition, ambitious, ambition. Hey hey, hey ba fam

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy officially had her baby. She is now a mother

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<v Speaker 2>of Uno dos two beautiful boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Rio is her first.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Real's four now, and Remy the new baby.

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<v Speaker 2>We loveing the literation.

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<v Speaker 1>Queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Rio and Remy and Mommy and baby and daddy and Rio.

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<v Speaker 1>Are all doing really well. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>You can catch up with Mandy at Mandy Money on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, send her some well wishes. She has the

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<v Speaker 2>cutest picture of the baby. The baby is perfection. But

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<v Speaker 2>Mandy's doing good. She's taking her break and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we wish her well and all this love. But I

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<v Speaker 2>am here in the stew acting up because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when Mandy's not here, I get to act up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not alone. I have a special.

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<v Speaker 2>Guest in here with me today to keep me partially

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<v Speaker 2>in line.

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<v Speaker 1>And her name is Page.

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<v Speaker 2>Page is a real estate broker and a house flipping expert.

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<v Speaker 2>Page Turner, to be clear lands her expertise to Southern

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<v Speaker 2>California's overwhelmed flippers in HGTV's Fix My Flip.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know she'd be on the TVs and Things.

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<v Speaker 2>Page made her HGTV debut on Flipper Flop Nashville and

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<v Speaker 2>appears as a guest judge on the hit series Rock

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<v Speaker 2>the Block. In addition to being to being a licensed

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<v Speaker 2>real estate broker in three Uno Dos Trace three States,

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<v Speaker 2>Page is a certified personal trainer and co owner of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jopa Life, a fitness and clothing brand. She also

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<v Speaker 2>completed in season four of Rock the Block alongside contractor

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch Glue. So we welcome Page to the stude a

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<v Speaker 2>reader from all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>We love an impressive for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We love our extra hyphenated impressive queen. So question, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so fitness and real estate, those are two totally different things.

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<v Speaker 2>So what came first or was what was your your first?

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<v Speaker 1>Foray?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first was real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been a licensed real estate broker just about twenty years,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been my girl, my right hand woman.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I realized I have to stay fit to

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<v Speaker 4>stay in this business.

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<v Speaker 2>So afterwards, so twenty years, I mean she started when

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<v Speaker 2>you were five, because if you guys could take a

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<v Speaker 2>look on YouTube page to its twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>I just hit the half century marks, Tiffany, So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>still coming to.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still I'm in disbelief that I'm fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>So how I say it's because I'm like fifty where right?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm twenty great, but you don't look a

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<v Speaker 2>day over like twenty five thirty for real, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>And you knew nowhere near forty three you had the

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<v Speaker 3>skin is skinning?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's talk about real estate, right, So twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, how did you enter into the real estate game?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, how did that even start for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I am, well, my kids are super adults, but

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<v Speaker 4>I was a single mom three kids under the age

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<v Speaker 4>of three, two of them were twenty and three girls

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<v Speaker 4>at that so you already know, miss you know Budgetsta.

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<v Speaker 4>My money was out the window for a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just had to find a way. I acted

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<v Speaker 4>out of college, have gone I decided not to, and

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<v Speaker 4>then I had a great job with Magic Johnson. But

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<v Speaker 4>then I had three children in Los Angeles and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I'm afraid I'm going to be struggling for

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of my life, and I just had to

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<v Speaker 4>find another way outside of the hourly you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>even you know, salary position, you know, to raise my

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<v Speaker 4>girls with everything I wanted to provide for them, and

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<v Speaker 4>really state became an option. I was didn't know anybody

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<v Speaker 4>who owned a house besides Magic Johnson in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 4>because they're so expensive, and this is thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Years ago, there was still expensive. And so I found

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<v Speaker 3>in real estate. Somebody just said you'd be a great realter,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like, I don't know what that means, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because I've been renting my whole life, so let me

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<v Speaker 4>go check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you started off as a realter. Yes, do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember your very first sale and like what you made?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what you know it was?

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<v Speaker 4>It?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>The rental property that you hit to out? Was the house?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>What did that look like?

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<v Speaker 3>It was?

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<v Speaker 4>His name was Henry, I forgot his last name. But

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<v Speaker 4>it was a trailer in a trailer park community. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't even realize the land didn't come with the trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the biggest house I've ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm whitting the box and I don't own the land,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have to buy.

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<v Speaker 3>The box anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Another in the whole other segment, right, But that was

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<v Speaker 4>my first sale, and I think it was around twenty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that three percent about you know, six hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks didn't make you say, like, way I could do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how long into like you starting to become a

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<v Speaker 2>realtor did you make that sale?

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<v Speaker 4>It was probably in the first six months. And then

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<v Speaker 4>after that I had my feet wet and I only

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<v Speaker 4>knew I just moved to Nashville. I only knew three people,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe five people at that time, and I went to

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<v Speaker 4>a great church. And so after that hump my first

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<v Speaker 4>year and a half in real estate, I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>bought a house the next year, everything just like has

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<v Speaker 4>been going since. It doesn't mean there weren't any valleys

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<v Speaker 4>in all my peaks, because real estate is in peaks

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<v Speaker 4>and valleys, as you know. But that was my first launch,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when I realized that when you run your

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<v Speaker 4>real estate business is a business, then you.

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<v Speaker 3>Learn off facets of real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can sell a ten thousand dollars piece of

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<v Speaker 4>land to a twenty thousand dollars trailer to a five

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<v Speaker 4>million dollar house.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned the business of real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I love that, cause I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of my friends who are like realtors,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, like it's only on the side, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's you know, and it's difficult to be a

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<v Speaker 2>full time and two different totally different professional professional you know, professional.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I I could see that that like if

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<v Speaker 2>you make realty your business, like selling or real estate

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<v Speaker 2>your business, how you can expert that the process of

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<v Speaker 2>the learning curve. So do you remember your biggest sale

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<v Speaker 2>where you were like, oh, my goodness, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>big expensive thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean the most expense.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Los Angeles now, so you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But in Nashville at the time, my biggest sale because

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<v Speaker 4>I've been back home in LA for four years, my

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<v Speaker 4>biggest sell in National at the time as my career

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<v Speaker 4>was growing, was about two and a half million, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's well not really anymore, but at that time

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<v Speaker 4>it was really big in Nashurally, everything's expensive now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so but that was huge for me coming up and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, out here I hit the should I tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>I it's like talxibility big. It's not even that big yet,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but I've done a five million dollar transaction. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, I'm there's that's the tip of the

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<v Speaker 4>iceberg in LA though. Yeah, I'm back home and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>licensed and my show is going.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, now it's to really get my feet wet.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so if somebody what are some of that, because

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<v Speaker 2>right now we are in a very weird mark. I

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<v Speaker 2>love your take. Like the market that we're in now,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, people are wanting to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a home. They're like, should I wait? Should I buy now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Should I wait for the interest rate to drop?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I just be financed.

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<v Speaker 1>With you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so, what's your take on this current housing market?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a buyer's market? Is it seller's market?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it neither? So what's your take on this current market?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>This take, it's neither. It's right in between. You know

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<v Speaker 4>what it is, it's selling real estate.

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<v Speaker 3>So I tell people.

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<v Speaker 4>Answer one of your questions first, Okay, should I buy

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<v Speaker 4>a house now or not?

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<v Speaker 3>This is my take on that.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're in a position to buy a home, and

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<v Speaker 4>if it makes more sense to own than to rent

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<v Speaker 4>at this time in your life, then buy the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't buy the house singing In.

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<v Speaker 4>Six months you're going to make a four hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars you know, profit off of it, because that's not

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<v Speaker 4>there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Buy the home to live in it, to love it,

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever you need to do, if anything, as far as

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<v Speaker 4>you know, any renovations are. But buy the home for

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<v Speaker 4>the long term. That's five to ten years. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>it used to be. Not this. You just pull up

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<v Speaker 4>in a house and then in six months it's worth

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<v Speaker 4>you know, three hundred thousand dollars more. That was I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it was realistic but also unrealistic way to build wealth

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<v Speaker 4>in real estate because it had never happened before.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was due to historically low interest rates.

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<v Speaker 4>But then that also caused the values to go up

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<v Speaker 4>to a historic high. So the two and three percents

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<v Speaker 4>are probably long gone. Six percent, six and a half percent,

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<v Speaker 4>even seven. It's not the end of the world. When

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<v Speaker 4>I bought my house, we were eight and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Interest rates back in the early two thousands. You go

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<v Speaker 4>back ten years before that, they were in the double digits,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was normal.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're ready to buy, you buy, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so neither a seller's market or a buyers market.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just basically kind of like a free for all,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, we're ready to buy, are.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, because there's some bubbles still Florida. I would

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<v Speaker 4>think people were running from Florida, but that bubble is

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<v Speaker 4>still growing Ohio. I mean these are growing bubbles still

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<v Speaker 4>in a seller's market. So it just really depends on

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<v Speaker 4>where you are. But for the most part, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're at this even balance where properties were staying longer

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<v Speaker 4>on the market, longer than twenty four hours, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, thirty sixty ninety days on market.

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<v Speaker 3>That used to be normal.

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<v Speaker 4>And then at the same token, buyers aren't rushing out

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<v Speaker 4>to buy, but sellers aren't rush rushing to sell.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're doing this right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now because I live in New Jersey and so I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen likes go for.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for long time homes we have gone for

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<v Speaker 2>fifties two or like one hundred thousand overasking and now

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<v Speaker 2>just it's still a little crazy in Jersey. So it

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the markets where there's still quite this

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<v Speaker 2>bubble where things are not staying on the market. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like what it was during the pandemic when

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<v Speaker 2>it was super crazy. I mean they were even hitting

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<v Speaker 2>the market. Things were just being bought off market.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean a lot of new realtors who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>bad their license maybe under five years. They don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know what DOM days on market means. That means your

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<v Speaker 4>house is on the market for an average of thirty

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<v Speaker 4>sixty ninety days, not before it hits or twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>hours after it hits the market.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel kind of bad for some realtors who

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<v Speaker 4>are newer in this business because, with all due respect,

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<v Speaker 4>realtors do a lot of work. But houses were selling

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<v Speaker 4>themselves for a long time, and now we have to

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<v Speaker 4>get back to marketing, get back to promoting, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>promoting and property doing open houses, and it's the real business.

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<v Speaker 3>Of real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want I would love for you to give

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<v Speaker 2>some advice to like two sides. Right, So people are

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<v Speaker 2>selling their property, whether now or whenever. What are the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest mistakes that you see sellers make and the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why their houses don't sell?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, what are those mistakes?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd love to know what are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest mistakes that buyers are making when they're looking to purchase,

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<v Speaker 2>and what they can do to fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start with sellers.

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<v Speaker 2>First, someone comes to you and says, hey, Paige, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to sell my house. I think it's worth a

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<v Speaker 2>bajillion dollars or whatever it is, Like, what are your

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<v Speaker 2>things feel like?

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<v Speaker 4>Loan?

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have the course correct before we put this

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<v Speaker 2>on the market. Like what a mistakes are sellers making?

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<v Speaker 3>You put that perfectly.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest with a first mistake, which is the biggest,

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<v Speaker 4>is an unrealistic profit margin of where the market is

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<v Speaker 4>and thinking their home is worth more than it is

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<v Speaker 4>and going to Zilo or you know another I'll just

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<v Speaker 4>say I won't i won't pen boring Zillow. I'll just

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<v Speaker 4>say at dot com who doesn't have accurate updates immediately

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<v Speaker 4>as your license really state professional will from doing a

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<v Speaker 4>hands on comp. You know you've heard the saying you

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<v Speaker 4>know you lie, numbers don't lie. So you have to

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<v Speaker 4>course correct. You have to sit down and do a

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<v Speaker 4>real listing presentation and show the numbers of the left.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even go six months back anymore for a comp.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing the last thirty to sixty days.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the market has changed that much.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if you give me a comp from six

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<v Speaker 4>months ago, I was like, that's a completely different market.

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<v Speaker 4>January was a different market, March was a different market.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in second quarter now, so what was going on

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of first quarter. That's what I'm showing client,

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<v Speaker 4>So first an unrealistic expectation where the market is and

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<v Speaker 4>being able to console them that your house is not

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<v Speaker 4>worth what it was then and this is why.

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<v Speaker 1>So can we get clear? Can you say pay? What's

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<v Speaker 1>a COMP just so people know it before you go on?

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<v Speaker 4>So a COMP or you might have heard CMA comparative

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<v Speaker 4>market analysis, So a COMP is one a real estate

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<v Speaker 4>professional will pull the most recently sold properties within the

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<v Speaker 4>immediate community, like within a mile and a mile and

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<v Speaker 4>a half, search of properties that have closed. Now, I

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<v Speaker 4>also comp active and pending properties because that gives us

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<v Speaker 4>an idea of where sellers slash agents are listing a

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<v Speaker 4>property and like what the marketing is.

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<v Speaker 3>In that neighborhood when they're active.

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<v Speaker 4>But just because you list a property for sale does

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<v Speaker 4>not mean it closes at that price.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's most important that the appraiser is going to run.

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<v Speaker 4>And look at as well is to see what is

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<v Speaker 4>closed within those last sixty days, let's say, not comparing

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<v Speaker 4>apples to oranges. A property that's a comp that's most

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<v Speaker 4>like your subject property, the listing that you're going after.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so like like bedrooms to bedrooms, bathrooms to bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>square footage.

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<v Speaker 3>Stories to stories. You can't comp apples to oranges.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can't comp a two story house that has

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand square feet to a one story house that

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<v Speaker 4>has fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>M square feet.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I can do it because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>make adjustments, but it's just not it's not a fair

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<v Speaker 4>analysis to provide to a seller. So you want to

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<v Speaker 4>be as close to possible as you can to show

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<v Speaker 4>that seller what's going on in their neighborhood with homes just.

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<v Speaker 3>About like theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>So one you said, sellers make the mistake of thinking

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<v Speaker 2>their property is worth too much. What's another mistake that

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<v Speaker 2>sellers might be making.

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<v Speaker 4>Another mistake is relying on the dot coms instead of

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<v Speaker 4>their real estate professional and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not looking at a printed.

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<v Speaker 4>Comparable market analysis of what's going on in their media

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<v Speaker 4>market and then digesting it and saying and accepting the

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<v Speaker 4>truth like, Okay, here are the numbers, Like I can't

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<v Speaker 4>make these up. This is what these homes sold for

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<v Speaker 4>most like yours and this is where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, what about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think like sellers, should they be staging, like

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<v Speaker 2>professionally staging or just even just personally staging.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we can go to number three, four and five

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<v Speaker 4>and six they're making so yes, so properly present okay, accepting.

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<v Speaker 3>That we're in this new market. Number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Number two, properly positioning the property on the market to

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<v Speaker 4>sell it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that it doesn't sit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, at the end of the day, a buyer

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<v Speaker 4>is going to determine what any house is worth purchasing

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<v Speaker 4>what they're willing to pay for it, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 4>number two, number three, how they're presenting their property. So

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<v Speaker 4>that does go with staging. Now, if they have a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful home already, and we can just move some nick

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<v Speaker 4>knacks around, declutter, you know, do those basic things. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>lighten up some paint, change a few light fixtures. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>not going overboard all the time is necessary, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you need a full on staging company, and especially to

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<v Speaker 4>save a house is vacant.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a client right now. I had I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I just had a flashbag.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about to roll my eyes and say some things,

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<v Speaker 4>but just in case she watches this, you know, not

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<v Speaker 4>only not have to send her and I have a

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<v Speaker 4>television show on it. And sometimes people just get so

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they put on their blinders and they just

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<v Speaker 4>get so stubborn that they just won't accept any other way.

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<v Speaker 4>And staging is a huge way to add a buyer

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<v Speaker 4>value of interest wise in your property when listening it

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<v Speaker 4>and when it's vacant, especially in a challenging home that

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<v Speaker 4>might have you know, just odd angles or an odd layout,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to spend the money stage it to get

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<v Speaker 4>the top dollar as close to as possible that you're

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<v Speaker 4>shooting for.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so they don't position there, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>position their property correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>What else we can go into.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes sellers want to over renovate a property before they

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<v Speaker 4>sell it because they think they're going to get more money.

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<v Speaker 4>This will go hand in hand with guess what how

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to list the property on the market based

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<v Speaker 4>on your comp Because when a real estate professional is

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<v Speaker 4>doing a comp they're not just looking at the numbers,

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<v Speaker 4>they're also looking at what renovations and upgrades have been

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<v Speaker 4>added to a property.

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<v Speaker 3>To get to that list price. So it's not always

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<v Speaker 3>needed you know.

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<v Speaker 4>To do this full renovation because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>outprice yourself from your comp from your market area. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, again walking through with the real estate professional

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<v Speaker 4>will help that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's that number four or five to the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like four or five.

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<v Speaker 2>So you mean something like I remember my my realtor

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<v Speaker 2>told me something to the effect of, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would you know? Of course you think to yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>if I spend one hundred thousand dollars on the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get back.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, uh, that you it's not one hundred to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred that you might renovate for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>get back sixty percent of that as it results in

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<v Speaker 2>like the increase of value. So where would you say

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<v Speaker 2>if a seller was going to put the money toward renovating,

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<v Speaker 2>Is it still bathrooms and kitchens or are we thinking something else?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Well, of course it's bathrooms and kitchens.

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<v Speaker 4>It's if you can open up a space if you're

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<v Speaker 4>in an older home, of course, open that space up,

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<v Speaker 4>but it shouldn't exceed fifteen percent of your ARV after

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<v Speaker 4>repair value of your home. Now we're going to do

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<v Speaker 4>a full kitchen renovation add an extra five percent on

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<v Speaker 4>top of that, So you really shouldn't be in for

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<v Speaker 4>more than twenty percent of what the value is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be when you're done with repairs, and of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course let's just say it is at the top of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's see, now, what do we have to do,

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<v Speaker 4>because you don't want to spend it all.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't have to, you might be.

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<v Speaker 4>Able to, you know, bring it back a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>and just do you know, odds and ends here and there,

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<v Speaker 4>just to have a better presentation on the market. So

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<v Speaker 4>for bathrooms, if you can expand a closet in a

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<v Speaker 4>primary bedroom, absolutely, light fixtures, paint, If you have old

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<v Speaker 4>school vinyl, you might want to consider tile, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>done in the budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you just have to do what's best for your

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<v Speaker 3>market area.

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<v Speaker 2>And also too, I wonder if so I just bought

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<v Speaker 2>a condo. It's a beautiful hundred year old bill I

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<v Speaker 2>love historic like my home. I own a house and

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<v Speaker 2>it was built like a hundred years ago, like nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and then and then. But I also bought a

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<v Speaker 2>condo not too far from my house, and it's beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>and it was built like ninety five years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know, there's there's a condo in your call.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's called the Dakota. And so this was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be like back in the day, it's in Newark,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. In the forest sale section.

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<v Speaker 1>This was supposed to be like the the.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer to the Dakota in Newark. And so, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>really beautiful. You could tell it was like top tier

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<v Speaker 2>luxury because my condo is twenty eight hundred square feet,

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<v Speaker 2>five bedrooms, three and a half ath yeah, fireplace, a

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<v Speaker 2>huge picture window to New York City. So this was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be like we're the wealthy, you know, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I loved it for that reason. And plus I've

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<v Speaker 2>lived in NewYork for the last I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen years, and I love living next to the

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<v Speaker 2>city without living in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, I bought it. And so I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the woman whore I bought it from.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that she purchased it, I think

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<v Speaker 2>from the city or like a tax deed or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>She purchased it and then she renovated it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how much she put into it. But to your point,

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<v Speaker 2>the mistakes. One of the mistakes she made is that

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<v Speaker 2>she priced it super high. So I saw that she

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<v Speaker 2>approchased it for three seventy five. I think, give her

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<v Speaker 2>take because I know them, I know the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>did the renovations. It was about one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>with materials that she put into it. So you figured

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<v Speaker 2>six three seventy five four seventy five. She put on

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<v Speaker 2>the market for six seventy five. So she's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make two hundred thousand dollars during like pandemic when things

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<v Speaker 2>were selling. But the issue with condos or HOA fees

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<v Speaker 2>m and so you think to yourself, even if you

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<v Speaker 2>could afford the condo itself, the bank is also like

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<v Speaker 2>you can you also form because the HOA fees are

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<v Speaker 2>not inexpensive, I'm always candidate. The mine are nearly thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars, you know. And so so she kept it

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<v Speaker 2>too long at that price point. Then she dropped it

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<v Speaker 2>down to six fifty. But I feel like all of

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<v Speaker 2>her dropped down were months too late, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she dropped it down town too late, yes, miss,

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<v Speaker 2>And then she dropped it down to five to seventy five,

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<v Speaker 2>and then then she dropped it down to five forty

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<v Speaker 2>or five to fifty, and that's when I came along

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<v Speaker 2>and I tried to offer for seventy, which she was

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<v Speaker 2>not happy about.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was like, it's cash, but yeah, girl, yes cash. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, I celebrate you for that. Yes, absolutely, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>You know people they don't they This is what I

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<v Speaker 4>tell people when they're when we have to do the

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<v Speaker 4>first price rop because they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't listen to me.

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<v Speaker 3>In the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, would you pay this much for this house

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<v Speaker 4>at this amount and this time? Yes, easy question. If

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<v Speaker 4>the answer is absolutely not, then were priced too high?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that she because she knows like one

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<v Speaker 2>like and there's a train station that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>going directly to like New York. New Ark already has

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<v Speaker 2>a number of train stations, but there's a new station

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<v Speaker 2>that they're building down the street that's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To go directly to New York.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it was all these things. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't recreate this building. And I understand

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<v Speaker 2>all those things, but I'm like, girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Still Newark. I love Newark, but it's still Newark.

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<v Speaker 2>You tried it, and so I got her down to

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<v Speaker 2>five twenty because I was paying, like I said, and

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<v Speaker 2>so but I mean this, I don't plan on selling.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something to add to my trust and my

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<v Speaker 2>heirs will have it later, and so that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that was a huge mistake. Plus it was odd though,

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<v Speaker 2>because she renovated it so specific her style. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>textile I guess, like real and textile retail, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and so everything was like really bright, bold patterns and

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<v Speaker 2>every tile was different.

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<v Speaker 1>Every it was.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also think one of the reasons why people

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<v Speaker 2>didn't buy is because they didn't see, like because I'd

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<v Speaker 2>just done a renovation, so I could see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the renovation that was necessary was really just cosmetic,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because she had done the work thing God,

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<v Speaker 2>because the place is.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred years old. She had done all the electric.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the plumbing, which that would have deterred me

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<v Speaker 2>from buying it if I did not know that that

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<v Speaker 2>had been done enough to code and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>pull permits, and I was like great, So I was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>some pain sometime I got that, you know, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I was fortunate to purchase it. And then sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>another unit in the building just sold for five fifty

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<v Speaker 2>just a month after mine sold. I know they were

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<v Speaker 2>happy because they got a comp.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking they had a good comp.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they was like, yes, because they're on the

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<v Speaker 2>eighth floor and I'm on the second floor. Although the

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 2>building is on the hill, so the second floor is

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<v Speaker 2>closer to like the six or seventh floor in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I have such great views. But so

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 2>they're on the eighth floor, so they have these three

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty views, and so you know, but we're about the

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<v Speaker 2>same size. But I just share all that to say

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like as a seller, she made all the

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes that you're mentioning, and she maybe she could have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten the five seventy five back then, you know, had

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<v Speaker 2>she dropped the price sooner, and but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>got this beautiful place that I get to keep. So

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<v Speaker 2>now that we've talked about sellers making mistakes, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's one too, you do think, well do you think this,

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<v Speaker 2>like unless you think someplace is gonna be your forever home?

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<v Speaker 2>How specific should people get with like making design choices?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like that should be you know, one of

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<v Speaker 4>our points, thank you for bringing it up, is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>selling when you renovated it so designed specific to your

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<v Speaker 4>take instead of thinking that, you know, I might sell

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<v Speaker 4>this in the next five years, so let me just

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<v Speaker 4>renovate it for the market in something classic that will

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<v Speaker 4>you know, laugh, and then I can just decorate it

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<v Speaker 4>like with my staging, in my own taste. If this

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<v Speaker 4>isn't going to be a forever home. And of course

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<v Speaker 4>we buy real estate, you know, real estate's an asset.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know if we have to sell it one

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<v Speaker 4>day or not, you know what I'm saying. But if

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<v Speaker 4>you most people know, like you said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>buy and hold this. You know, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>intentions of selling it, so I can make it my

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<v Speaker 4>own for now. But you know, in her case, it

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<v Speaker 4>being so specific, that's such a big detriment when you

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<v Speaker 4>go to put on the market, especially so high, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's high when you first listed, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and as agents, you know, we're just like, okay, but

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<v Speaker 4>let me just put in writing that you understand that

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<v Speaker 4>this is not you know, the list price. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you should be so that you don't get mad at me,

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<v Speaker 4>because then they get mad, and then I get fired.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you get to the next agent that they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to list it where I.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked exactly, That's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>She had like three different agents, and I was just

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<v Speaker 2>because I could see kind of like the record and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, I guess she finally got down

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<v Speaker 2>to the price.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, just difficult and not living in reality and where

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<v Speaker 4>the market is that your house is worth more than

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<v Speaker 4>the market is calling for. So I think that it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's very important to think about what your long

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<v Speaker 4>term goals are when you're renovating, so that it's not

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<v Speaker 4>so owner specific.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it knocked you out. You know, she probably

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<v Speaker 3>could have gotten more.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, when buyers walk in, they're thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I love the unit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're a visionary.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you're a visionary, it's much different for us,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but most buyers aren't. I would say ninety

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<v Speaker 4>eight percent of buyers are in visionary. So when they

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<v Speaker 4>walk in and they already have this high price tag,

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<v Speaker 4>you got them in. So the price tag didn't scare them,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's good. But what's scared the most was what

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<v Speaker 4>am I going to have to do inside this apartment?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this condos and say sorry, it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>cost me even more than I have to pay with

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<v Speaker 4>this high price tag, and you know, you have your

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<v Speaker 4>good agents that are like, well, you know, but you

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<v Speaker 4>can do this, you can do it, you know over time,

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<v Speaker 4>and then buyer's like, no, I want moving ready.

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<v Speaker 3>At this price point. It's too much. Plus the hoas yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, yeah yeah. And it's weird because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she brought it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I want to say, she brought it like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, renovated a twenty twenty, and they put it

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<v Speaker 2>on the mark of twenty twenty one. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>renovated in a way. I don't know what why she

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<v Speaker 2>put it on the market because it wasn't renovated in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that you would think someone It wasn't a flip.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't feel like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt very personal, you know, like tile from Argentina

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, like drapery from me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was very specific.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just really I don't, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>never got the backstory while she was selling it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember thinking this person whoever renovated this had

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<v Speaker 2>not intended to sell it because it's just so specific.

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<v Speaker 2>So now let's dip into like okay, now, I'm a buyer,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, what can I do as a buyer too?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like, well, she was really difficult, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like as I was a cash buyer, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, you know, maybe we could have

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<v Speaker 2>negotiated differently, maybe I could have got it.

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<v Speaker 1>A little less. But what can buyers do to get

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<v Speaker 1>the best deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Because one of the things I made the mistake of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't listen to my agent, so you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I listen to her as I need.

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<v Speaker 2>To know, because I told her. I think I told her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that the first offer I put

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<v Speaker 2>in was five four point fifty. She was asking for

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<v Speaker 2>five fifty, and she was like, girl, this lady's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be mad at you.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, ah, she's not gonna be mad. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like this cash.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like okay, but and she was, and I

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<v Speaker 2>will say for the for a couple of months she

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<v Speaker 2>did not respond she's that girl go ahead because she

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<v Speaker 2>was yeah, even with a cash offer, she not even

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>their agent was like, we're not even going to entertain this.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my buyer to my agent told me that

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a little on the low side where

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<v Speaker 2>it might be offensive, and I just was like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been on the market for two years. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a cash offer. I would at least think they would

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<v Speaker 2>push back.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until no one, nothing else would go through

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that they kind of came back to the table to negotiate.

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 2>So I know as a buyer that you know, just

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a sellers want to go too high. Buyers, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that one of the mistakes is we want to go

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<v Speaker 2>too low. And so like what other mistakes do buyers make?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not so opposed with your offer. I'll tell

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 4>you why it's sitting for two years. It's very owner specific.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 4>I probably would have done the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the deal. I don't know, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's desperate on the other side of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this transaction or not. So okay, I don't want to

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 4>say the worst I can do, but you know the

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 4>worst I can do is try, you know, one hundred

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars.

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean I've gotten deals like that before.

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 4>You know. Now the other side of that coin is, well,

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 4>it has been on the market for two years and

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 4>she hasn't dropped it, so she's not that desperate. So

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 4>now let's manage expectations. Okay, Now if I was, if

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I was a seller's agent, I'm like, you can't be

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 4>mad because we've had the property on the market for

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 4>two years. Of course they're going to low ball you

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 4>because they don't know if you're desperate or not. You know,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 4>just counter back. This is when people say that, you know,

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's business, you know, not personal. All business

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 4>is personal because money's very personal, you know. And I

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 4>also say, we know to buyers, all transactions are cash.

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day. You know, when a

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 3>seller closes.

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 4>They're going to get cash in their bank account. Now,

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 4>now cash deals also have or should have a little

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 4>bit more, you know, controlling interest because it is cash

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 4>because guess what, some loans might not go through.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 3>You might get to the closing table.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 4>And the buyer went out and bought a new car,

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and now they're dead to a ray shows upside down,

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 4>So you know, cash, I definitely like to massage, you know,

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 4>and I tell selfs that, like, listen, let's be nice,

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, let's just counter back. Even if your counter

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 4>back is back to your full list price, just counter that,

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, let's take emotional sid out of it.

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 3>So on the buyer's side.

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's really going to be how specific you know,

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 4>that depends on a lot. But I'm not mad that

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 4>you did that. I would have done the same thing, okay,

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.959
<v Speaker 4>with caution, Like your agent told you what was going

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 4>to happen, it happens, so it's always going to be fitty.

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 4>But I think that buyers mistakes they make is that

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 4>are that you know, they're not prepared. They need to

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 4>be prepared for reality as well, you know, depending on

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 4>what market they're in. You know, because the property's been

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 4>sitting on the market, doesn't mean you can't ask for

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 4>the stars, but you just have to be if the

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>massage the negotiation. So if I'm going to offer less

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 4>on a property, then I'm going to have less contingencies,

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 4>you know. Or but nowadays buyers are back to where

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 4>they can ask for closing costs, they can ask for assistance,

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, so we can we can I can really

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 4>go in ten different ways with this, Tiffany, But I

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 4>will say this with with buyers, they need to be

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 4>prepared for the counters, for their closing costs, you know,

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>talking about you know, mistakes they make. They're not the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 4>HOA fees they have to consider that as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not just in condos, it's in some subdivisions

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I like hoas. Some people don't like Hoa's.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm here for it because it just helps maintain

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 4>your value and you know, the condision of your neighborhood

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 4>and buildings. So other buyer mistakes would be you know, again,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 4>they have to live in reality as well, you know,

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 4>with their finances, with how a house is positioned, not offering.

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<v Speaker 4>I just helped my sister with the house in Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not licensed in Philly, but she was so enraged

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<v Speaker 4>because somebody offered thirty thousand off her list price and

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<v Speaker 4>asked for eightyven and clothing costs. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>but when you have anything else coming in, you're any

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 4>other officers coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be mad at them, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so but that that buyer's agent was a good

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 4>buyer's agent.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, let's do it. I guess what my sister

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 3>had to sell, So that by.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because you never know, I guess unless you ask.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>She wanted me to come.

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<v Speaker 2>At like a like for seventy just to be like,

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I was just like less see.

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't end up getting it, but I

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting like, you know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That what I I asked one of my friends was

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a real estate investor, and I was like, well, what

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>do you think? And he gave me some good advice.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>He said one Tiffany like, is this where you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be living? And I said, yes, I really love

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>this place. I'm my sister's going to be taking my

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>house and she's gonna be paying the carrying costs because

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>that house is paid off. And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just want to you know, I don't want

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 2>to take care of a property like that anymore. Like

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and I love, I love this is all one floor

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>without being I don't like ranches, you know, but so

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>this is one floor but in a way that's attractive

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>to me. And it's around the corner. So I'm still

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>right here in the neighborhood with all my friends and

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>my family. So I said, I'm not planning on you know, selling,

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean could potentially, if something comes up, I might

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>purchase something additional. He said okay, And then too he

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, is this something where if it were to

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>go you'd be like, whatever, these are a dimer dozen

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>because you know some homes, there's certain neighborhoods, these houses

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>come up and I said, no, this is one hundred

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>year old. He was like, Tiffany, he said, I was

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>going to tell you that, but that's your business to say.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>He was like, one hundred year of property, five bends,

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>three and a half back, fireplace, twenty eight hundred square feet.

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>He was like, you're right, it's not going to come

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<v Speaker 2>up again. I mean unless it's in that building, which

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>you know. But he was like, the likelihood of this

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<v Speaker 2>unit something like this coming up again, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 2>as likely. So you have to ask yourself that too.

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So these were some questions that he had me asked.

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Because I was feeling salty as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, so she didn't want to now

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 4>you want to come back to the table. But I

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 4>was like, girl, go ahead and get your house. Stop

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 4>being sassy.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Because someone was I didn't know this, but it had

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>been under contract and then it fell through because of

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the HOWA fees that they could afford. How much the

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 2>house was worth, but they couldn't afford the hoafees made

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>it that you have to be basically qualified for like

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a house that was like seven hundred thousand versus the

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 2>five hundred five fifty because of the hoafeest adding an

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>additional thirteen hundred dollars to your monthly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just have to remember.

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<v Speaker 4>A one more buyer mistake that I see a lot

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<v Speaker 4>is that buyers they're just as sassy as you were,

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<v Speaker 4>right with countors and everything, and I have to stop

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 4>them by and say, listen, if you love this home

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<v Speaker 4>as your next five to ten, you know, your forever

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<v Speaker 4>home right now, then why in the world would you

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<v Speaker 4>let however much it is come between you know, this

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 4>might be five thousand, whatever it is. If I've proven

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 4>to you that the comp is there, it's a great investment.

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 4>You love the house, all right, Let's take the sass off.

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know what happened between you and the cellar,

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 4>but you can't lose this house over you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of thousand dollars, which is only.

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<v Speaker 3>Affecting your note a couple of hundred. You know what

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what my agent was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I could how she was just breathing, you know, she

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>this is so beautiful, it's so perfect.

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>It's in your neighborhood, it's around the corner. Literally, she

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>want because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Even had like some random moment and I would love

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to use of New York City, but like, what does it?

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>And literally walk in and you're like, it looks like

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>a picture window, like the whole wall and all you

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<v Speaker 2>see is the New York City skyline and everyone in

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>that in that building is like, you should see the

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 2>fourth of July. You should see New Year's Eve that

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the fireworks display. And I just was like, so she

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>was like because in the moment, I was just angry

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like that it seemed like the But I'm like, but

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know you. This the mind does not know you, Like,

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>this is not a personal So I was so glad

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I was able to work through that and get the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the home that I really wanted and I

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>really do love it. And yeah, and I'm renovating now

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's you know, literally it's like some pain. She

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of wallpaper which came off in a day,

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, the renovations, you know, should be done,

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and next I did. And I said that I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god, you know, like thank god for Rihanna, because

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>she was like, girl, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, do I have to spank Tiffany, like what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else? Like as we so what do

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you how about this? Well end with this, like what

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>are some of your predictions based upon you know, you've

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 2>been in this industry for twenty years?

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you like?

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 2>What are your spidy senses telling you about? Like what

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>might home ownership and buying and things and selling? What

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>might What do you see in the next five to

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 2>ten years? That is there any new trends you know,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>something that we should look out for, like what are

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>And Tiffany, I had to stop making predictions because I

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 4>was like, some days I'm right, some days I'm wrong.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, I said, let me just live in today

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 4>and we can talk about thirty days ago and maybe

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>thirty days ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I tell people, you.

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Know, I have got I got my resate license in

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and three over my first brokeers in two

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 4>thousand and.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Six, had it for fifteen years. I moved back home here.

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 4>So I've been in a I don't want a discount recession,

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 4>but a much bigger recession and a housing crash. I

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 4>was in it for the two thousand and you know,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 4>seven to one and what I have learned from the

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 4>and then came to the seller's market in twenty sixteen,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 4>and then who knows what just happened in twenty twenty,

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, with that birth well, with interest rates dropping.

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 4>This is what I've learned that you have to pay

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 4>attention to daily interest rates, on what's going on in

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 4>our government, you know, and then follow the successful people

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 4>in real estate that you admire. So I am an

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 4>inman junkie, you know what I'm saying. Like you know,

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Tony Robbins says that success leads clues. You have to follow,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, whoever you're even if it's a mentor in

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 4>your head. I didn't have a mentor in real estate,

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 4>you know when as I was growing up in real estate. Unfortunately,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 4>I had to learn the hard way, you know, because

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I was working in my business.

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 3>And not on it. You have to look around what's

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the curve.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 4>You have to keep reading what's going on in finance,

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and you know with our government in commercial commercials about

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>is plumbting.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Commercial real estate is plumbting.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 4>You know what does that mean for you know, residential

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 4>So you have to take the responsibility of looking in

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.040
<v Speaker 4>your immedia market as well as around the country of

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 4>what's going on, so that we can predict what's going

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 4>to happen in the next five to ten years.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Right now, I'm telling people buy and hold.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean in.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 4>California, New York, New Jersey. You know, we're high no

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 4>matter what happens in the world. Right so there's still

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 4>room to flip and do all that fun stuff which

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I've built my business on.

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:20.720
<v Speaker 3>But if you can.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Buy and hold properties right now and still be able

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 4>to rent them, house hack. I wish I was told

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 4>to house hack when I first got in real estate

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 4>instead of just buying my first home. Like that debt

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 4>to income ratio we're talking about. I didn't anybody to

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 4>tell me that. I would have been a house hack

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 4>and food you know what I'm saying. I would have

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 4>never had to pay my mortgage, not one day. So

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 4>if you can house hack, you know, interest rates are

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 4>not killing us in the six percent range, They're still okay,

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 4>especially if you can get that good deal you know,

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 4>and get them to tick down and look at the

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 4>long term within five to ten years, no matter where

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 4>we are, you own an asset, you have a property,

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you will be able to do something

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 4>with it. Even if that means that asset is paying

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 4>your minimum minimum living requirements, that's still an asset. So

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 4>look for so you can buy a whole duplex, triplex, quad,

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 4>small apartment building house hacked.

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>You know that's where I So just for clarity for

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>people might say, what's house hacking? Can you just describe

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>real quick?

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>So, house hacking is basically when you buy a more

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 4>than one property, so multi family units, and those units

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 4>are paying your entire mortgage and hopefully then some so

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 4>that you can pay for repair, not only payers and

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 4>your taxes and insurance, but also pay for some of

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 4>your lifestyle.

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So when there goes my necklace, So that's.

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 3>What house hacking is.

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 4>You buy one unit and then you rent or maybe

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 4>even airbnb the other two to three four units out,

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 4>and then those units are paying.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.959
<v Speaker 3>For your entire mortgage. Yes, while you're living.

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I love that super smart page. It's been so awesome

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>hacking you on today. I feel like I learned so much.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel so bad about, you know, trying to

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 2>get one hundred thousand dollars off that kindom So that's

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 2>what I also know that I totally take your advice.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Although I plan on keeping my condo, I too like

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 2>to like to renovate in a way that's traditional and

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 2>then add the funk with like you know, like my

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>couch and my decorations and things like that. So that's

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>my plan first, you know, I'm going to take that

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>advice and do that as well. Is there anything else

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that we didn't talk about and that you'd like to share,

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>like maybe one lasting piece of advice and awesome?

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Where can the people find you and connect with you?

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, Tifnie, thank you for having me.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm brown ambicient again. I'm so happy to

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 4>be here, and I'm so proud of you. I mean,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 4>you know you said so much. That is so encouraging

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 4>to myself, to your listeners. You know, here you are,

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 4>in your beautiful brown skin, doing it and doing it

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 4>well and taking those chances, even you know, offering one

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 4>hundred thousands less, but guess what it was cash?

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You know we should all aspire to do that.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's always number one right, one thing I

0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 4>wanted to say though, that's good for when you do

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<v Speaker 4>close on your home, you can make it your own

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<v Speaker 4>with the you know, mixing textiles with your stage. But

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<v Speaker 4>Also you mentioned wallpaper, like removable wallpaper is a thing

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have to put up old school wallpaper that

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<v Speaker 4>will stick forever. And then that way, if you get

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<v Speaker 4>tired of your own wallpaper every quarter, you can change

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<v Speaker 4>it up, you know. So there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>cute things you can do in your home that won't

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<v Speaker 4>cost a lot. Adding you know, woods, wooden slats to

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<v Speaker 4>a wall that you can get from Amazon, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to add a feature wall.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot you can do as a buyer.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and that's good to remove when you become a seller,

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<v Speaker 4>nice and easy.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, I forgot the.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question because the last question just like where can

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<v Speaker 1>people find you?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're got to listen and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to learn more, I want to watch my show.

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<v Speaker 3>You are someone to talk to. Can't be over already?

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<v Speaker 4>Tim questions, Wait a minute, we can do this a

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<v Speaker 4>couple more hours. You can find my show fixed my flip.

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<v Speaker 4>We are in the middle of season two on HGTV.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also streaming on the all new MACS, which I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so excited about. And if you don't know, Max is

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<v Speaker 4>the newly revised version of HBO Max.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now called Max. You can catch up on season one.

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<v Speaker 4>And also check out the episodes that have already aired

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<v Speaker 4>for season to have fixed my flip. It's such a

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<v Speaker 4>blessing to have the platform on HGTV and I'm able

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<v Speaker 4>to share with great platforms like yours. I'm on Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>at page Turner unlimited and also on Twitter and Facebook

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<v Speaker 4>and everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that's that's me. I'm just so happy to

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<v Speaker 3>have been here with you. No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to write a book?

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<v Speaker 3>Page?

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<v Speaker 1>You have a book?

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<v Speaker 3>I do the book.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote it in twenty nine, twenty nine Lord in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the pandemic hit and then I got a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stories. But it is on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to want to relaunch it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good book. It's it's called the Go Life.

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<v Speaker 4>Go as an acronym for seizing your greatest opportunity now

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<v Speaker 4>and not to mismanage your season. So you can definitely

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<v Speaker 4>tell that I'm a real estate flipper because I have

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<v Speaker 4>just so many analogies to you know, the housing market,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know and how you know I've been able

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<v Speaker 4>to seize my greatest opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's called the Go Life. It's on Amazon and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a fun book.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, thank you for coming on. We certainly

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have you back again. So go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>to callow.

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<v Speaker 2>Page turner elimited on all the socials and yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>and watch her show.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank yeah, Tiffany, fix my flips on every Thursday,

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<v Speaker 4>nineteenth Central. We're on Primetime. Baby, listen, you're doing prodcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love it. I love it all right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>We will see you next week. Actually, we'll see you

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday for our BAQA. You know, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>questions that need answers when it comes to business, career

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<v Speaker 2>or money, you can ask them and we are answering

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<v Speaker 2>them on BAQA.

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<v Speaker 1>So see you guys on Friday. And Paige, I will

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<v Speaker 1>see you hopefully one day soon, very soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Tiffany. Hey, ba fam, we could not do

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<v Speaker 3>this show without your support or the support of our

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<v Speaker 3>team behind the scenes. The Brown Ambision podcast is produced

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<v Speaker 3>by Imani Crosby and Dennis Sanplinsky is our in house

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<v Speaker 3>tech guru.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your co host Mandy Wilders Santos, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will see y'all next week.

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<v Speaker 4>Ba Fama