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Speaker 2: am here in the stew acting up because you know,
Speaker 2: when Mandy's not here, I get to act up.
Speaker 1: But I'm not alone. I have a special.
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Speaker 1: And her name is Page.
Speaker 2: Page is a real estate broker and a house flipping expert.
Speaker 2: Page Turner, to be clear lands her expertise to Southern
Speaker 2: California's overwhelmed flippers in HGTV's Fix My Flip.
Speaker 1: So you know she'd be on the TVs and Things.
Speaker 2: Page made her HGTV debut on Flipper Flop Nashville and
Speaker 2: appears as a guest judge on the hit series Rock
Speaker 2: the Block. In addition to being to being a licensed
Speaker 2: real estate broker in three Uno Dos Trace three States,
Speaker 2: Page is a certified personal trainer and co owner of
Speaker 2: the Jopa Life, a fitness and clothing brand. She also
Speaker 2: completed in season four of Rock the Block alongside contractor
Speaker 2: Mitch Glue. So we welcome Page to the stude a
Speaker 2: reader from all that.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We love an impressive for you.
Speaker 2: We love our extra hyphenated impressive queen. So question, you know,
Speaker 2: so fitness and real estate, those are two totally different things.
Speaker 2: So what came first or was what was your your first?
Speaker 1: Foray?
Speaker 3: Well, first was real estate.
Speaker 4: I've been a licensed real estate broker just about twenty years,
Speaker 4: so that's.
Speaker 3: Been my girl, my right hand woman.
Speaker 4: And then I realized I have to stay fit to
Speaker 4: stay in this business.
Speaker 2: So afterwards, so twenty years, I mean she started when
Speaker 2: you were five, because if you guys could take a
Speaker 2: look on YouTube page to its twenty five.
Speaker 1: So okay, twenty years.
Speaker 3: Twenty years.
Speaker 4: I just hit the half century marks, Tiffany, So I'm
Speaker 4: still coming to.
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm in disbelief that I'm fifty.
Speaker 1: So how I say it's because I'm like fifty where right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm twenty great, but you don't look a
Speaker 2: day over like twenty five thirty for real, I'm like.
Speaker 3: And you knew nowhere near forty three you had the
Speaker 3: skin is skinning?
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about real estate, right, So twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, how did you enter into the real estate game?
Speaker 1: Like, how did that even start for you?
Speaker 4: Well, I am, well, my kids are super adults, but
Speaker 4: I was a single mom three kids under the age
Speaker 4: of three, two of them were twenty and three girls
Speaker 4: at that so you already know, miss you know Budgetsta.
Speaker 4: My money was out the window for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I just had to find a way. I acted
Speaker 4: out of college, have gone I decided not to, and
Speaker 4: then I had a great job with Magic Johnson. But
Speaker 4: then I had three children in Los Angeles and I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm afraid I'm going to be struggling for
Speaker 4: the rest of my life, and I just had to
Speaker 4: find another way outside of the hourly you know, or
Speaker 4: even you know, salary position, you know, to raise my
Speaker 4: girls with everything I wanted to provide for them, and
Speaker 4: really state became an option. I was didn't know anybody
Speaker 4: who owned a house besides Magic Johnson in Los Angeles
Speaker 4: because they're so expensive, and this is thirty.
Speaker 3: Years ago, there was still expensive. And so I found
Speaker 3: in real estate. Somebody just said you'd be a great realter,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, I don't know what that means, but you know,
Speaker 4: because I've been renting my whole life, so let me
Speaker 4: go check it out.
Speaker 3: And I did.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you started off as a realter. Yes, do
Speaker 2: you remember your very first sale and like what you made?
Speaker 2: Like what you know it was?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: The rental property that you hit to out? Was the house?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: What did that look like?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: His name was Henry, I forgot his last name. But
Speaker 4: it was a trailer in a trailer park community. I
Speaker 4: didn't even realize the land didn't come with the trailer.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest house I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 4: I'm whitting the box and I don't own the land,
Speaker 4: but I have to buy.
Speaker 3: The box anyway.
Speaker 4: Another in the whole other segment, right, But that was
Speaker 4: my first sale, and I think it was around twenty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: And so that three percent about you know, six hundred.
Speaker 1: Bucks didn't make you say, like, way I could do this?
Speaker 2: Like how long into like you starting to become a
Speaker 2: realtor did you make that sale?
Speaker 4: It was probably in the first six months. And then
Speaker 4: after that I had my feet wet and I only
Speaker 4: knew I just moved to Nashville. I only knew three people,
Speaker 4: maybe five people at that time, and I went to
Speaker 4: a great church. And so after that hump my first
Speaker 4: year and a half in real estate, I mean I
Speaker 4: bought a house the next year, everything just like has
Speaker 4: been going since. It doesn't mean there weren't any valleys
Speaker 4: in all my peaks, because real estate is in peaks
Speaker 4: and valleys, as you know. But that was my first launch,
Speaker 4: and that's when I realized that when you run your
Speaker 4: real estate business is a business, then you.
Speaker 3: Learn off facets of real estate.
Speaker 4: So I can sell a ten thousand dollars piece of
Speaker 4: land to a twenty thousand dollars trailer to a five
Speaker 4: million dollar house.
Speaker 3: I learned the business of real estate.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love that, cause I was going to say,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of my friends who are like realtors,
Speaker 2: but you know, like it's only on the side, and
Speaker 2: so it's you know, and it's difficult to be a
Speaker 2: full time and two different totally different professional professional you know, professional.
Speaker 2: So no, I I could see that that like if
Speaker 2: you make realty your business, like selling or real estate
Speaker 2: your business, how you can expert that the process of
Speaker 2: the learning curve. So do you remember your biggest sale
Speaker 2: where you were like, oh, my goodness, this is a
Speaker 2: big expensive thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the most expense.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I live in Los Angeles now, so you know.
Speaker 4: But in Nashville at the time, my biggest sale because
Speaker 4: I've been back home in LA for four years, my
Speaker 4: biggest sell in National at the time as my career
Speaker 4: was growing, was about two and a half million, you know,
Speaker 4: and that's well not really anymore, but at that time
Speaker 4: it was really big in Nashurally, everything's expensive now, you know,
Speaker 4: so but that was huge for me coming up and
Speaker 4: you know, out here I hit the should I tell you,
Speaker 4: I it's like talxibility big. It's not even that big yet,
Speaker 4: you know, but I've done a five million dollar transaction. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you know, I'm there's that's the tip of the
Speaker 4: iceberg in LA though. Yeah, I'm back home and I'm
Speaker 4: licensed and my show is going.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, now it's to really get my feet wet.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: So, so if somebody what are some of that, because
Speaker 2: right now we are in a very weird mark. I
Speaker 2: love your take. Like the market that we're in now,
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, people are wanting to buy
Speaker 2: a home. They're like, should I wait? Should I buy now?
Speaker 2: Is the Should I wait for the interest rate to drop?
Speaker 2: Should I just be financed.
Speaker 1: With you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, so, what's your take on this current housing market?
Speaker 2: Is it a buyer's market? Is it seller's market?
Speaker 1: Is it neither? So what's your take on this current market?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: This take, it's neither. It's right in between. You know
Speaker 4: what it is, it's selling real estate.
Speaker 3: So I tell people.
Speaker 4: Answer one of your questions first, Okay, should I buy
Speaker 4: a house now or not?
Speaker 3: This is my take on that.
Speaker 4: If you're in a position to buy a home, and
Speaker 4: if it makes more sense to own than to rent
Speaker 4: at this time in your life, then buy the house.
Speaker 3: Just don't buy the house singing In.
Speaker 4: Six months you're going to make a four hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars you know, profit off of it, because that's not
Speaker 4: there anymore.
Speaker 3: Buy the home to live in it, to love it,
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 4: Whatever you need to do, if anything, as far as
Speaker 4: you know, any renovations are. But buy the home for
Speaker 4: the long term. That's five to ten years. That's what
Speaker 4: it used to be. Not this. You just pull up
Speaker 4: in a house and then in six months it's worth
Speaker 4: you know, three hundred thousand dollars more. That was I mean,
Speaker 4: it was realistic but also unrealistic way to build wealth
Speaker 4: in real estate because it had never happened before.
Speaker 3: But that was due to historically low interest rates.
Speaker 4: But then that also caused the values to go up
Speaker 4: to a historic high. So the two and three percents
Speaker 4: are probably long gone. Six percent, six and a half percent,
Speaker 4: even seven. It's not the end of the world. When
Speaker 4: I bought my house, we were eight and a half percent.
Speaker 4: Interest rates back in the early two thousands. You go
Speaker 4: back ten years before that, they were in the double digits,
Speaker 4: and it was normal.
Speaker 3: If you're ready to buy, you buy, okay.
Speaker 1: So so neither a seller's market or a buyers market.
Speaker 2: It's just basically kind of like a free for all,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, we're ready to buy, are.
Speaker 4: You know, because there's some bubbles still Florida. I would
Speaker 4: think people were running from Florida, but that bubble is
Speaker 4: still growing Ohio. I mean these are growing bubbles still
Speaker 4: in a seller's market. So it just really depends on
Speaker 4: where you are. But for the most part, I think
Speaker 4: we're at this even balance where properties were staying longer
Speaker 4: on the market, longer than twenty four hours, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, thirty sixty ninety days on market.
Speaker 3: That used to be normal.
Speaker 4: And then at the same token, buyers aren't rushing out
Speaker 4: to buy, but sellers aren't rush rushing to sell.
Speaker 3: So we're doing this right.
Speaker 1: Now because I live in New Jersey and so I
Speaker 1: have seen likes go for.
Speaker 2: I mean for long time homes we have gone for
Speaker 2: fifties two or like one hundred thousand overasking and now
Speaker 2: just it's still a little crazy in Jersey. So it
Speaker 2: is one of the markets where there's still quite this
Speaker 2: bubble where things are not staying on the market. Like
Speaker 2: it's not like what it was during the pandemic when
Speaker 2: it was super crazy. I mean they were even hitting
Speaker 2: the market. Things were just being bought off market.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot of new realtors who you know,
Speaker 4: bad their license maybe under five years. They don't even
Speaker 4: know what DOM days on market means. That means your
Speaker 4: house is on the market for an average of thirty
Speaker 4: sixty ninety days, not before it hits or twenty four
Speaker 4: hours after it hits the market.
Speaker 3: They don't know, you know.
Speaker 4: And I feel kind of bad for some realtors who
Speaker 4: are newer in this business because, with all due respect,
Speaker 4: realtors do a lot of work. But houses were selling
Speaker 4: themselves for a long time, and now we have to
Speaker 4: get back to marketing, get back to promoting, you know,
Speaker 4: promoting and property doing open houses, and it's the real business.
Speaker 3: Of real estate.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: So I want I would love for you to give
Speaker 2: some advice to like two sides. Right, So people are
Speaker 2: selling their property, whether now or whenever. What are the
Speaker 2: biggest mistakes that you see sellers make and the reason
Speaker 2: why their houses don't sell?
Speaker 1: Like, you know, what are those mistakes?
Speaker 2: And I'd love to know what are some of the
Speaker 2: biggest mistakes that buyers are making when they're looking to purchase,
Speaker 2: and what they can do to fix it.
Speaker 1: So let's start with sellers.
Speaker 2: First, someone comes to you and says, hey, Paige, I
Speaker 2: want to sell my house. I think it's worth a
Speaker 2: bajillion dollars or whatever it is, Like, what are your
Speaker 2: things feel like?
Speaker 4: Loan?
Speaker 2: We're gonna have the course correct before we put this
Speaker 2: on the market. Like what a mistakes are sellers making?
Speaker 3: You put that perfectly.
Speaker 4: The biggest with a first mistake, which is the biggest,
Speaker 4: is an unrealistic profit margin of where the market is
Speaker 4: and thinking their home is worth more than it is
Speaker 4: and going to Zilo or you know another I'll just
Speaker 4: say I won't i won't pen boring Zillow. I'll just
Speaker 4: say at dot com who doesn't have accurate updates immediately
Speaker 4: as your license really state professional will from doing a
Speaker 4: hands on comp. You know you've heard the saying you
Speaker 4: know you lie, numbers don't lie. So you have to
Speaker 4: course correct. You have to sit down and do a
Speaker 4: real listing presentation and show the numbers of the left.
Speaker 4: I don't even go six months back anymore for a comp.
Speaker 4: I'm doing the last thirty to sixty days.
Speaker 3: Because the market has changed that much.
Speaker 4: You know, if you give me a comp from six
Speaker 4: months ago, I was like, that's a completely different market.
Speaker 4: January was a different market, March was a different market.
Speaker 4: We're in second quarter now, so what was going on
Speaker 4: at the end of first quarter. That's what I'm showing client,
Speaker 4: So first an unrealistic expectation where the market is and
Speaker 4: being able to console them that your house is not
Speaker 4: worth what it was then and this is why.
Speaker 1: So can we get clear? Can you say pay? What's
Speaker 1: a COMP just so people know it before you go on?
Speaker 4: So a COMP or you might have heard CMA comparative
Speaker 4: market analysis, So a COMP is one a real estate
Speaker 4: professional will pull the most recently sold properties within the
Speaker 4: immediate community, like within a mile and a mile and
Speaker 4: a half, search of properties that have closed. Now, I
Speaker 4: also comp active and pending properties because that gives us
Speaker 4: an idea of where sellers slash agents are listing a
Speaker 4: property and like what the marketing is.
Speaker 3: In that neighborhood when they're active.
Speaker 4: But just because you list a property for sale does
Speaker 4: not mean it closes at that price.
Speaker 3: So what's most important that the appraiser is going to run.
Speaker 4: And look at as well is to see what is
Speaker 4: closed within those last sixty days, let's say, not comparing
Speaker 4: apples to oranges. A property that's a comp that's most
Speaker 4: like your subject property, the listing that you're going after.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like like bedrooms to bedrooms, bathrooms to bathroom,
Speaker 2: square footage.
Speaker 3: Stories to stories. You can't comp apples to oranges.
Speaker 4: And you can't comp a two story house that has
Speaker 4: five thousand square feet to a one story house that
Speaker 4: has fifteen.
Speaker 3: M square feet.
Speaker 4: Now I can do it because I don't want to
Speaker 4: make adjustments, but it's just not it's not a fair
Speaker 4: analysis to provide to a seller. So you want to
Speaker 4: be as close to possible as you can to show
Speaker 4: that seller what's going on in their neighborhood with homes just.
Speaker 3: About like theirs.
Speaker 2: So one you said, sellers make the mistake of thinking
Speaker 2: their property is worth too much. What's another mistake that
Speaker 2: sellers might be making.
Speaker 4: Another mistake is relying on the dot coms instead of
Speaker 4: their real estate professional and.
Speaker 3: Not looking at a printed.
Speaker 4: Comparable market analysis of what's going on in their media
Speaker 4: market and then digesting it and saying and accepting the
Speaker 4: truth like, Okay, here are the numbers, Like I can't
Speaker 4: make these up. This is what these homes sold for
Speaker 4: most like yours and this is where you are.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what about it?
Speaker 2: Do you think like sellers, should they be staging, like
Speaker 2: professionally staging or just even just personally staging.
Speaker 4: Oh, we can go to number three, four and five
Speaker 4: and six they're making so yes, so properly present okay, accepting.
Speaker 3: That we're in this new market. Number one.
Speaker 4: Number two, properly positioning the property on the market to
Speaker 4: sell it.
Speaker 3: So that it doesn't sit.
Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, a buyer
Speaker 4: is going to determine what any house is worth purchasing
Speaker 4: what they're willing to pay for it, right, So that's
Speaker 4: number two, number three, how they're presenting their property. So
Speaker 4: that does go with staging. Now, if they have a
Speaker 4: beautiful home already, and we can just move some nick
Speaker 4: knacks around, declutter, you know, do those basic things. Maybe
Speaker 4: lighten up some paint, change a few light fixtures. You know,
Speaker 4: not going overboard all the time is necessary, but sometimes
Speaker 4: you need a full on staging company, and especially to
Speaker 4: save a house is vacant.
Speaker 3: I have a client right now. I had I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I just had a flashbag.
Speaker 4: I was about to roll my eyes and say some things,
Speaker 4: but just in case she watches this, you know, not
Speaker 4: only not have to send her and I have a
Speaker 4: television show on it. And sometimes people just get so
Speaker 4: you know, they put on their blinders and they just
Speaker 4: get so stubborn that they just won't accept any other way.
Speaker 4: And staging is a huge way to add a buyer
Speaker 4: value of interest wise in your property when listening it
Speaker 4: and when it's vacant, especially in a challenging home that
Speaker 4: might have you know, just odd angles or an odd layout,
Speaker 4: you have to spend the money stage it to get
Speaker 4: the top dollar as close to as possible that you're
Speaker 4: shooting for.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so they don't position there, they don't
Speaker 2: position their property correctly.
Speaker 1: What else we can go into.
Speaker 4: Sometimes sellers want to over renovate a property before they
Speaker 4: sell it because they think they're going to get more money.
Speaker 4: This will go hand in hand with guess what how
Speaker 4: you're going to list the property on the market based
Speaker 4: on your comp Because when a real estate professional is
Speaker 4: doing a comp they're not just looking at the numbers,
Speaker 4: they're also looking at what renovations and upgrades have been
Speaker 4: added to a property.
Speaker 3: To get to that list price. So it's not always
Speaker 3: needed you know.
Speaker 4: To do this full renovation because you don't want to
Speaker 4: outprice yourself from your comp from your market area. So
Speaker 4: you know, again walking through with the real estate professional
Speaker 4: will help that as well.
Speaker 3: So what's that number four or five to the Yeah,
Speaker 3: like four or five.
Speaker 2: So you mean something like I remember my my realtor
Speaker 2: told me something to the effect of, like, you know,
Speaker 2: like I would you know? Of course you think to yourself,
Speaker 2: if I spend one hundred thousand dollars on the kitchen,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get back.
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: She's like, uh, that you it's not one hundred to
Speaker 2: one hundred that you might renovate for one hundred and
Speaker 2: get back sixty percent of that as it results in
Speaker 2: like the increase of value. So where would you say
Speaker 2: if a seller was going to put the money toward renovating,
Speaker 2: Is it still bathrooms and kitchens or are we thinking something else?
Speaker 3: Now? Well, of course it's bathrooms and kitchens.
Speaker 4: It's if you can open up a space if you're
Speaker 4: in an older home, of course, open that space up,
Speaker 4: but it shouldn't exceed fifteen percent of your ARV after
Speaker 4: repair value of your home. Now we're going to do
Speaker 4: a full kitchen renovation add an extra five percent on
Speaker 4: top of that, So you really shouldn't be in for
Speaker 4: more than twenty percent of what the value is going
Speaker 4: to be when you're done with repairs, and of.
Speaker 3: Course let's just say it is at the top of
Speaker 3: twenty percent.
Speaker 4: Well, let's see, now, what do we have to do,
Speaker 4: because you don't want to spend it all.
Speaker 3: If you don't have to, you might be.
Speaker 4: Able to, you know, bring it back a little bit
Speaker 4: and just do you know, odds and ends here and there,
Speaker 4: just to have a better presentation on the market. So
Speaker 4: for bathrooms, if you can expand a closet in a
Speaker 4: primary bedroom, absolutely, light fixtures, paint, If you have old
Speaker 4: school vinyl, you might want to consider tile, but that's
Speaker 4: done in the budget.
Speaker 3: Then you just have to do what's best for your
Speaker 3: market area.
Speaker 2: And also too, I wonder if so I just bought
Speaker 2: a condo. It's a beautiful hundred year old bill I
Speaker 2: love historic like my home. I own a house and
Speaker 2: it was built like a hundred years ago, like nineteen
Speaker 2: nineteen and then and then. But I also bought a
Speaker 2: condo not too far from my house, and it's beautiful
Speaker 2: and it was built like ninety five years ago, and
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, there's there's a condo in your call.
Speaker 2: I think it's called the Dakota. And so this was
Speaker 2: supposed to be like back in the day, it's in Newark,
Speaker 2: New Jersey. In the forest sale section.
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be like the the.
Speaker 2: Answer to the Dakota in Newark. And so, but it's
Speaker 2: really beautiful. You could tell it was like top tier
Speaker 2: luxury because my condo is twenty eight hundred square feet,
Speaker 2: five bedrooms, three and a half ath yeah, fireplace, a
Speaker 2: huge picture window to New York City. So this was
Speaker 2: supposed to be like we're the wealthy, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 2: So I loved it for that reason. And plus I've
Speaker 2: lived in NewYork for the last I don't know, like
Speaker 2: ten fifteen years, and I love living next to the
Speaker 2: city without living in the city.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, I bought it. And so I remember
Speaker 1: the woman whore I bought it from.
Speaker 2: I want to say that she purchased it, I think
Speaker 2: from the city or like a tax deed or whatever.
Speaker 2: She purchased it and then she renovated it. I don't
Speaker 2: know how much she put into it. But to your point,
Speaker 2: the mistakes. One of the mistakes she made is that
Speaker 2: she priced it super high. So I saw that she
Speaker 2: approchased it for three seventy five. I think, give her
Speaker 2: take because I know them, I know the guy who
Speaker 2: did the renovations. It was about one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: with materials that she put into it. So you figured
Speaker 2: six three seventy five four seventy five. She put on
Speaker 2: the market for six seventy five. So she's trying to
Speaker 2: make two hundred thousand dollars during like pandemic when things
Speaker 2: were selling. But the issue with condos or HOA fees
Speaker 2: m and so you think to yourself, even if you
Speaker 2: could afford the condo itself, the bank is also like
Speaker 2: you can you also form because the HOA fees are
Speaker 2: not inexpensive, I'm always candidate. The mine are nearly thirteen
Speaker 2: hundred dollars, you know. And so so she kept it
Speaker 2: too long at that price point. Then she dropped it
Speaker 2: down to six fifty. But I feel like all of
Speaker 2: her dropped down were months too late, you know. And
Speaker 2: then she dropped it down town too late, yes, miss,
Speaker 2: And then she dropped it down to five to seventy five,
Speaker 2: and then then she dropped it down to five forty
Speaker 2: or five to fifty, and that's when I came along
Speaker 2: and I tried to offer for seventy, which she was
Speaker 2: not happy about.
Speaker 4: Because I was like, it's cash, but yeah, girl, yes cash. Yes,
Speaker 4: first of all, I celebrate you for that. Yes, absolutely, yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: You know people they don't they This is what I
Speaker 4: tell people when they're when we have to do the
Speaker 4: first price rop because they.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to me.
Speaker 3: In the beginning.
Speaker 4: I said, would you pay this much for this house
Speaker 4: at this amount and this time? Yes, easy question. If
Speaker 4: the answer is absolutely not, then were priced too high?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And I think that she because she knows like one
Speaker 2: like and there's a train station that's going to be
Speaker 2: going directly to like New York. New Ark already has
Speaker 2: a number of train stations, but there's a new station
Speaker 2: that they're building down the street that's going.
Speaker 1: To go directly to New York.
Speaker 2: So I think it was all these things. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't recreate this building. And I understand
Speaker 2: all those things, but I'm like, girls.
Speaker 1: Still Newark. I love Newark, but it's still Newark.
Speaker 2: You tried it, and so I got her down to
Speaker 2: five twenty because I was paying, like I said, and
Speaker 2: so but I mean this, I don't plan on selling.
Speaker 2: This is something to add to my trust and my
Speaker 2: heirs will have it later, and so that I think
Speaker 2: that was a huge mistake. Plus it was odd though,
Speaker 2: because she renovated it so specific her style. She's a
Speaker 2: textile I guess, like real and textile retail, I guess,
Speaker 2: and so everything was like really bright, bold patterns and
Speaker 2: every tile was different.
Speaker 1: Every it was.
Speaker 2: So I also think one of the reasons why people
Speaker 2: didn't buy is because they didn't see, like because I'd
Speaker 2: just done a renovation, so I could see a lot
Speaker 2: of the renovation that was necessary was really just cosmetic,
Speaker 2: you know, because she had done the work thing God,
Speaker 2: because the place is.
Speaker 1: One hundred years old. She had done all the electric.
Speaker 2: And all the plumbing, which that would have deterred me
Speaker 2: from buying it if I did not know that that
Speaker 2: had been done enough to code and we got to
Speaker 2: pull permits, and I was like great, So I was like, girl,
Speaker 2: some pain sometime I got that, you know, And so
Speaker 2: I was fortunate to purchase it. And then sure enough,
Speaker 2: another unit in the building just sold for five fifty
Speaker 2: just a month after mine sold. I know they were
Speaker 2: happy because they got a comp.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking they had a good comp.
Speaker 2: I know they was like, yes, because they're on the
Speaker 2: eighth floor and I'm on the second floor. Although the
Speaker 2: building is on the hill, so the second floor is
Speaker 2: closer to like the six or seventh floor in the building.
Speaker 2: So that's why I have such great views. But so
Speaker 2: they're on the eighth floor, so they have these three
Speaker 2: sixty views, and so you know, but we're about the
Speaker 2: same size. But I just share all that to say
Speaker 2: I feel like as a seller, she made all the
Speaker 2: mistakes that you're mentioning, and she maybe she could have
Speaker 2: gotten the five seventy five back then, you know, had
Speaker 2: she dropped the price sooner, and but you know, I
Speaker 2: got this beautiful place that I get to keep. So
Speaker 2: now that we've talked about sellers making mistakes, and maybe
Speaker 2: that's one too, you do think, well do you think this,
Speaker 2: like unless you think someplace is gonna be your forever home?
Speaker 2: How specific should people get with like making design choices?
Speaker 4: You know, like that should be you know, one of
Speaker 4: our points, thank you for bringing it up, is you know,
Speaker 4: selling when you renovated it so designed specific to your
Speaker 4: take instead of thinking that, you know, I might sell
Speaker 4: this in the next five years, so let me just
Speaker 4: renovate it for the market in something classic that will
Speaker 4: you know, laugh, and then I can just decorate it
Speaker 4: like with my staging, in my own taste. If this
Speaker 4: isn't going to be a forever home. And of course
Speaker 4: we buy real estate, you know, real estate's an asset.
Speaker 4: We don't know if we have to sell it one
Speaker 4: day or not, you know what I'm saying. But if
Speaker 4: you most people know, like you said, I'm going to
Speaker 4: buy and hold this. You know, I don't have any
Speaker 4: intentions of selling it, so I can make it my
Speaker 4: own for now. But you know, in her case, it
Speaker 4: being so specific, that's such a big detriment when you
Speaker 4: go to put on the market, especially so high, and
Speaker 4: you know it's high when you first listed, you know,
Speaker 4: and as agents, you know, we're just like, okay, but
Speaker 4: let me just put in writing that you understand that
Speaker 4: this is not you know, the list price. I think
Speaker 4: you should be so that you don't get mad at me,
Speaker 4: because then they get mad, and then I get fired.
Speaker 4: Then you get to the next agent that they're going
Speaker 4: to list it where I.
Speaker 1: Talked exactly, That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: She had like three different agents, and I was just
Speaker 2: because I could see kind of like the record and
Speaker 2: I was just like, I guess she finally got down
Speaker 2: to the price.
Speaker 4: Yes, just difficult and not living in reality and where
Speaker 4: the market is that your house is worth more than
Speaker 4: the market is calling for. So I think that it's
Speaker 4: it's it's very important to think about what your long
Speaker 4: term goals are when you're renovating, so that it's not
Speaker 4: so owner specific.
Speaker 3: And then it knocked you out. You know, she probably
Speaker 3: could have gotten more.
Speaker 4: But you know, when buyers walk in, they're thinking, okay,
Speaker 4: I love the unit.
Speaker 3: You know, you're a visionary.
Speaker 4: So when you're a visionary, it's much different for us,
Speaker 4: you know, but most buyers aren't. I would say ninety
Speaker 4: eight percent of buyers are in visionary. So when they
Speaker 4: walk in and they already have this high price tag,
Speaker 4: you got them in. So the price tag didn't scare them,
Speaker 4: so that's good. But what's scared the most was what
Speaker 4: am I going to have to do inside this apartment?
Speaker 4: You know, this condos and say sorry, it's going to
Speaker 4: cost me even more than I have to pay with
Speaker 4: this high price tag, and you know, you have your
Speaker 4: good agents that are like, well, you know, but you
Speaker 4: can do this, you can do it, you know over time,
Speaker 4: and then buyer's like, no, I want moving ready.
Speaker 3: At this price point. It's too much. Plus the hoas yeah.
Speaker 1: Girl, yeah yeah. And it's weird because, like I said,
Speaker 1: she brought it.
Speaker 2: I think I want to say, she brought it like
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, renovated a twenty twenty, and they put it
Speaker 2: on the mark of twenty twenty one. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: renovated in a way. I don't know what why she
Speaker 2: put it on the market because it wasn't renovated in
Speaker 2: a way that you would think someone It wasn't a flip.
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like that.
Speaker 2: It felt very personal, you know, like tile from Argentina
Speaker 2: and you know, like drapery from me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very specific.
Speaker 2: So I'm just really I don't, like I said, I
Speaker 2: never got the backstory while she was selling it, but
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking this person whoever renovated this had
Speaker 2: not intended to sell it because it's just so specific.
Speaker 2: So now let's dip into like okay, now, I'm a buyer,
Speaker 2: and like, what can I do as a buyer too?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like, well, she was really difficult, but
Speaker 2: I feel like as I was a cash buyer, and
Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, maybe we could have
Speaker 2: negotiated differently, maybe I could have got it.
Speaker 1: A little less. But what can buyers do to get
Speaker 1: the best deal?
Speaker 2: Because one of the things I made the mistake of it,
Speaker 2: I didn't listen to my agent, so you know.
Speaker 3: I listen to her as I need.
Speaker 2: To know, because I told her. I think I told her,
Speaker 2: you know, I think that the first offer I put
Speaker 2: in was five four point fifty. She was asking for
Speaker 2: five fifty, and she was like, girl, this lady's gonna
Speaker 2: be mad at you.
Speaker 3: I was like, ah, she's not gonna be mad. I'm
Speaker 3: like this cash.
Speaker 2: She was like okay, but and she was, and I
Speaker 2: will say for the for a couple of months she
Speaker 2: did not respond she's that girl go ahead because she
Speaker 2: was yeah, even with a cash offer, she not even
Speaker 2: their agent was like, we're not even going to entertain this.
Speaker 2: And so my buyer to my agent told me that
Speaker 2: that it was a little on the low side where
Speaker 2: it might be offensive, and I just was like, it's
Speaker 2: been on the market for two years. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a cash offer. I would at least think they would
Speaker 2: push back.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't until no one, nothing else would go through
Speaker 2: that they kind of came back to the table to negotiate.
Speaker 2: So I know as a buyer that you know, just
Speaker 2: a sellers want to go too high. Buyers, I know
Speaker 2: that one of the mistakes is we want to go
Speaker 2: too low. And so like what other mistakes do buyers make?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And I'm not so opposed with your offer. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you why it's sitting for two years. It's very owner specific.
Speaker 4: I probably would have done the same thing.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. I don't know, you know.
Speaker 4: If he's desperate on the other side of you know,
Speaker 4: this transaction or not. So okay, I don't want to
Speaker 4: say the worst I can do, but you know the
Speaker 4: worst I can do is try, you know, one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: I mean I've gotten deals like that before.
Speaker 4: You know. Now the other side of that coin is, well,
Speaker 4: it has been on the market for two years and
Speaker 4: she hasn't dropped it, so she's not that desperate. So
Speaker 4: now let's manage expectations. Okay, Now if I was, if
Speaker 4: I was a seller's agent, I'm like, you can't be
Speaker 4: mad because we've had the property on the market for
Speaker 4: two years. Of course they're going to low ball you
Speaker 4: because they don't know if you're desperate or not. You know,
Speaker 4: just counter back. This is when people say that, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, it's business, you know, not personal. All business
Speaker 4: is personal because money's very personal, you know. And I
Speaker 4: also say, we know to buyers, all transactions are cash.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. You know, when a
Speaker 3: seller closes.
Speaker 4: They're going to get cash in their bank account. Now,
Speaker 4: now cash deals also have or should have a little
Speaker 4: bit more, you know, controlling interest because it is cash
Speaker 4: because guess what, some loans might not go through.
Speaker 3: You might get to the closing table.
Speaker 4: And the buyer went out and bought a new car,
Speaker 4: and now they're dead to a ray shows upside down,
Speaker 4: So you know, cash, I definitely like to massage, you know,
Speaker 4: and I tell selfs that, like, listen, let's be nice,
Speaker 4: you know, let's just counter back. Even if your counter
Speaker 4: back is back to your full list price, just counter that,
Speaker 4: you know, let's take emotional sid out of it.
Speaker 3: So on the buyer's side.
Speaker 4: You know, that's really going to be how specific you know,
Speaker 4: that depends on a lot. But I'm not mad that
Speaker 4: you did that. I would have done the same thing, okay,
Speaker 4: with caution, Like your agent told you what was going
Speaker 4: to happen, it happens, so it's always going to be fitty.
Speaker 4: But I think that buyers mistakes they make is that
Speaker 4: are that you know, they're not prepared. They need to
Speaker 4: be prepared for reality as well, you know, depending on
Speaker 4: what market they're in. You know, because the property's been
Speaker 4: sitting on the market, doesn't mean you can't ask for
Speaker 4: the stars, but you just have to be if the
Speaker 4: massage the negotiation. So if I'm going to offer less
Speaker 4: on a property, then I'm going to have less contingencies,
Speaker 4: you know. Or but nowadays buyers are back to where
Speaker 4: they can ask for closing costs, they can ask for assistance,
Speaker 4: you know, so we can we can I can really
Speaker 4: go in ten different ways with this, Tiffany, But I
Speaker 4: will say this with with buyers, they need to be
Speaker 4: prepared for the counters, for their closing costs, you know,
Speaker 4: talking about you know, mistakes they make. They're not the
Speaker 4: HOA fees they have to consider that as well, you know,
Speaker 4: because it's not just in condos, it's in some subdivisions
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: I like hoas. Some people don't like Hoa's.
Speaker 4: But I'm here for it because it just helps maintain
Speaker 4: your value and you know, the condision of your neighborhood
Speaker 4: and buildings. So other buyer mistakes would be you know, again,
Speaker 4: they have to live in reality as well, you know,
Speaker 4: with their finances, with how a house is positioned, not offering.
Speaker 4: I just helped my sister with the house in Philly.
Speaker 4: I'm not licensed in Philly, but she was so enraged
Speaker 4: because somebody offered thirty thousand off her list price and
Speaker 4: asked for eightyven and clothing costs. And I said, well,
Speaker 4: but when you have anything else coming in, you're any
Speaker 4: other officers coming in.
Speaker 1: You can't be mad at them, you know.
Speaker 4: And so but that that buyer's agent was a good
Speaker 4: buyer's agent.
Speaker 3: She said, let's do it. I guess what my sister
Speaker 3: had to sell, So that by.
Speaker 1: Okay, because you never know, I guess unless you ask.
Speaker 1: She wanted me to come.
Speaker 2: At like a like for seventy just to be like,
Speaker 2: you know, and I was just like less see.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't end up getting it, but I
Speaker 1: ended up getting like, you know, I know.
Speaker 2: That what I I asked one of my friends was
Speaker 2: a real estate investor, and I was like, well, what
Speaker 2: do you think? And he gave me some good advice.
Speaker 2: He said one Tiffany like, is this where you're going
Speaker 2: to be living? And I said, yes, I really love
Speaker 2: this place. I'm my sister's going to be taking my
Speaker 2: house and she's gonna be paying the carrying costs because
Speaker 2: that house is paid off. And so I was like,
Speaker 2: but I just want to you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to take care of a property like that anymore. Like
Speaker 2: and I love, I love this is all one floor
Speaker 2: without being I don't like ranches, you know, but so
Speaker 2: this is one floor but in a way that's attractive
Speaker 2: to me. And it's around the corner. So I'm still
Speaker 2: right here in the neighborhood with all my friends and
Speaker 2: my family. So I said, I'm not planning on you know, selling,
Speaker 2: I mean could potentially, if something comes up, I might
Speaker 2: purchase something additional. He said okay, And then too he
Speaker 2: was like, is this something where if it were to
Speaker 2: go you'd be like, whatever, these are a dimer dozen
Speaker 2: because you know some homes, there's certain neighborhoods, these houses
Speaker 2: come up and I said, no, this is one hundred
Speaker 2: year old. He was like, Tiffany, he said, I was
Speaker 2: going to tell you that, but that's your business to say.
Speaker 2: He was like, one hundred year of property, five bends,
Speaker 2: three and a half back, fireplace, twenty eight hundred square feet.
Speaker 2: He was like, you're right, it's not going to come
Speaker 2: up again. I mean unless it's in that building, which
Speaker 2: you know. But he was like, the likelihood of this
Speaker 2: unit something like this coming up again, it's probably not
Speaker 2: as likely. So you have to ask yourself that too.
Speaker 2: So these were some questions that he had me asked.
Speaker 2: Because I was feeling salty as well.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, so she didn't want to now
Speaker 4: you want to come back to the table. But I
Speaker 4: was like, girl, go ahead and get your house. Stop
Speaker 4: being sassy.
Speaker 2: Because someone was I didn't know this, but it had
Speaker 2: been under contract and then it fell through because of
Speaker 2: the HOWA fees that they could afford. How much the
Speaker 2: house was worth, but they couldn't afford the hoafees made
Speaker 2: it that you have to be basically qualified for like
Speaker 2: a house that was like seven hundred thousand versus the
Speaker 2: five hundred five fifty because of the hoafeest adding an
Speaker 2: additional thirteen hundred dollars to your monthly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just have to remember.
Speaker 4: A one more buyer mistake that I see a lot
Speaker 4: is that buyers they're just as sassy as you were,
Speaker 4: right with countors and everything, and I have to stop
Speaker 4: them by and say, listen, if you love this home
Speaker 4: as your next five to ten, you know, your forever
Speaker 4: home right now, then why in the world would you
Speaker 4: let however much it is come between you know, this
Speaker 4: might be five thousand, whatever it is. If I've proven
Speaker 4: to you that the comp is there, it's a great investment.
Speaker 4: You love the house, all right, Let's take the sass off.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what happened between you and the cellar,
Speaker 4: but you can't lose this house over you know, a
Speaker 4: couple of thousand dollars, which is only.
Speaker 3: Affecting your note a couple of hundred. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's what my agent was like.
Speaker 2: I could how she was just breathing, you know, she
Speaker 2: this is so beautiful, it's so perfect.
Speaker 1: It's in your neighborhood, it's around the corner. Literally, she
Speaker 1: want because I.
Speaker 2: Even had like some random moment and I would love
Speaker 2: to use of New York City, but like, what does it?
Speaker 2: And literally walk in and you're like, it looks like
Speaker 2: a picture window, like the whole wall and all you
Speaker 2: see is the New York City skyline and everyone in
Speaker 2: that in that building is like, you should see the
Speaker 2: fourth of July. You should see New Year's Eve that
Speaker 2: the fireworks display. And I just was like, so she
Speaker 2: was like because in the moment, I was just angry
Speaker 2: like that it seemed like the But I'm like, but
Speaker 2: she doesn't know you. This the mind does not know you, Like,
Speaker 2: this is not a personal So I was so glad
Speaker 2: I was able to work through that and get the
Speaker 2: you know, the home that I really wanted and I
Speaker 2: really do love it. And yeah, and I'm renovating now
Speaker 2: and it's you know, literally it's like some pain. She
Speaker 2: had a lot of wallpaper which came off in a day,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, the renovations, you know, should be done,
Speaker 2: and next I did. And I said that I was like,
Speaker 2: thank god, you know, like thank god for Rihanna, because
Speaker 2: she was like, girl, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, do I have to spank Tiffany, like what
Speaker 1: is happening?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Is there anything else? Like as we so what do
Speaker 2: you how about this? Well end with this, like what
Speaker 2: are some of your predictions based upon you know, you've
Speaker 2: been in this industry for twenty years?
Speaker 1: What do you like?
Speaker 2: What are your spidy senses telling you about? Like what
Speaker 2: might home ownership and buying and things and selling? What
Speaker 2: might What do you see in the next five to
Speaker 2: ten years? That is there any new trends you know,
Speaker 2: something that we should look out for, like what are
Speaker 2: you thinking?
Speaker 4: And Tiffany, I had to stop making predictions because I
Speaker 4: was like, some days I'm right, some days I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: You know, I said, let me just live in today
Speaker 4: and we can talk about thirty days ago and maybe
Speaker 4: thirty days ahead.
Speaker 3: Right, So I tell people, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I have got I got my resate license in
Speaker 4: two thousand and three over my first brokeers in two
Speaker 4: thousand and.
Speaker 3: Six, had it for fifteen years. I moved back home here.
Speaker 4: So I've been in a I don't want a discount recession,
Speaker 4: but a much bigger recession and a housing crash. I
Speaker 4: was in it for the two thousand and you know,
Speaker 4: seven to one and what I have learned from the
Speaker 4: and then came to the seller's market in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 4: and then who knows what just happened in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: you know, with that birth well, with interest rates dropping.
Speaker 4: This is what I've learned that you have to pay
Speaker 4: attention to daily interest rates, on what's going on in
Speaker 4: our government, you know, and then follow the successful people
Speaker 4: in real estate that you admire. So I am an
Speaker 4: inman junkie, you know what I'm saying. Like you know,
Speaker 4: Tony Robbins says that success leads clues. You have to follow,
Speaker 4: you know, whoever you're even if it's a mentor in
Speaker 4: your head. I didn't have a mentor in real estate,
Speaker 4: you know when as I was growing up in real estate. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: I had to learn the hard way, you know, because
Speaker 4: I was working in my business.
Speaker 3: And not on it. You have to look around what's
Speaker 3: ahead of the curve.
Speaker 4: You have to keep reading what's going on in finance,
Speaker 4: and you know with our government in commercial commercials about
Speaker 4: is plumbting.
Speaker 3: Commercial real estate is plumbting.
Speaker 4: You know what does that mean for you know, residential
Speaker 4: So you have to take the responsibility of looking in
Speaker 4: your immedia market as well as around the country of
Speaker 4: what's going on, so that we can predict what's going
Speaker 4: to happen in the next five to ten years.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm telling people buy and hold.
Speaker 1: I mean in.
Speaker 4: California, New York, New Jersey. You know, we're high no
Speaker 4: matter what happens in the world. Right so there's still
Speaker 4: room to flip and do all that fun stuff which
Speaker 4: I've built my business on.
Speaker 3: But if you can.
Speaker 4: Buy and hold properties right now and still be able
Speaker 4: to rent them, house hack. I wish I was told
Speaker 4: to house hack when I first got in real estate
Speaker 4: instead of just buying my first home. Like that debt
Speaker 4: to income ratio we're talking about. I didn't anybody to
Speaker 4: tell me that. I would have been a house hack
Speaker 4: and food you know what I'm saying. I would have
Speaker 4: never had to pay my mortgage, not one day. So
Speaker 4: if you can house hack, you know, interest rates are
Speaker 4: not killing us in the six percent range, They're still okay,
Speaker 4: especially if you can get that good deal you know,
Speaker 4: and get them to tick down and look at the
Speaker 4: long term within five to ten years, no matter where
Speaker 4: we are, you own an asset, you have a property,
Speaker 4: you know, and you will be able to do something
Speaker 4: with it. Even if that means that asset is paying
Speaker 4: your minimum minimum living requirements, that's still an asset. So
Speaker 4: look for so you can buy a whole duplex, triplex, quad,
Speaker 4: small apartment building house hacked.
Speaker 2: You know that's where I So just for clarity for
Speaker 2: people might say, what's house hacking? Can you just describe
Speaker 2: real quick?
Speaker 4: So, house hacking is basically when you buy a more
Speaker 4: than one property, so multi family units, and those units
Speaker 4: are paying your entire mortgage and hopefully then some so
Speaker 4: that you can pay for repair, not only payers and
Speaker 4: your taxes and insurance, but also pay for some of
Speaker 4: your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: So when there goes my necklace, So that's.
Speaker 3: What house hacking is.
Speaker 4: You buy one unit and then you rent or maybe
Speaker 4: even airbnb the other two to three four units out,
Speaker 4: and then those units are paying.
Speaker 3: For your entire mortgage. Yes, while you're living.
Speaker 2: I love that super smart page. It's been so awesome
Speaker 2: hacking you on today. I feel like I learned so much.
Speaker 2: I don't feel so bad about, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: get one hundred thousand dollars off that kindom So that's
Speaker 2: what I also know that I totally take your advice.
Speaker 2: Although I plan on keeping my condo, I too like
Speaker 2: to like to renovate in a way that's traditional and
Speaker 2: then add the funk with like you know, like my
Speaker 2: couch and my decorations and things like that. So that's
Speaker 2: my plan first, you know, I'm going to take that
Speaker 2: advice and do that as well. Is there anything else
Speaker 2: that we didn't talk about and that you'd like to share,
Speaker 2: like maybe one lasting piece of advice and awesome?
Speaker 1: Where can the people find you and connect with you?
Speaker 3: Well, Tifnie, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm brown ambicient again. I'm so happy to
Speaker 4: be here, and I'm so proud of you. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know you said so much. That is so encouraging
Speaker 4: to myself, to your listeners. You know, here you are,
Speaker 4: in your beautiful brown skin, doing it and doing it
Speaker 4: well and taking those chances, even you know, offering one
Speaker 4: hundred thousands less, but guess what it was cash?
Speaker 3: You know we should all aspire to do that.
Speaker 4: You know, that's always number one right, one thing I
Speaker 4: wanted to say though, that's good for when you do
Speaker 4: close on your home, you can make it your own
Speaker 4: with the you know, mixing textiles with your stage. But
Speaker 4: Also you mentioned wallpaper, like removable wallpaper is a thing
Speaker 4: you don't have to put up old school wallpaper that
Speaker 4: will stick forever. And then that way, if you get
Speaker 4: tired of your own wallpaper every quarter, you can change
Speaker 4: it up, you know. So there are a lot of
Speaker 4: cute things you can do in your home that won't
Speaker 4: cost a lot. Adding you know, woods, wooden slats to
Speaker 4: a wall that you can get from Amazon, you know,
Speaker 4: to add a feature wall.
Speaker 3: There's a lot you can do as a buyer.
Speaker 4: Okay, and that's good to remove when you become a seller,
Speaker 4: nice and easy.
Speaker 3: So well, I forgot the.
Speaker 1: Last question because the last question just like where can
Speaker 1: people find you?
Speaker 2: I feel like you're got to listen and be like,
Speaker 2: I want to learn more, I want to watch my show.
Speaker 3: You are someone to talk to. Can't be over already?
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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's that's me. I'm just so happy to
Speaker 3: have been here with you. No, thank you.
Speaker 1: Are you going to write a book?
Speaker 3: Page?
Speaker 1: You have a book?
Speaker 3: I do the book.
Speaker 4: I wrote it in twenty nine, twenty nine Lord in
Speaker 4: twenty nine.
Speaker 3: And then the pandemic hit and then I got a
Speaker 3: lot of stories. But it is on Amazon.
Speaker 1: I'm going to want to relaunch it.
Speaker 4: It's a good book. It's it's called the Go Life.
Speaker 4: Go as an acronym for seizing your greatest opportunity now
Speaker 4: and not to mismanage your season. So you can definitely
Speaker 4: tell that I'm a real estate flipper because I have
Speaker 4: just so many analogies to you know, the housing market,
Speaker 4: but you know and how you know I've been able
Speaker 4: to seize my greatest opportunity.
Speaker 3: So it's called the Go Life. It's on Amazon and
Speaker 3: it's a fun book.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you for coming on. We certainly
Speaker 1: would love to have you back again. So go ahead
Speaker 1: to callow.
Speaker 2: Page turner elimited on all the socials and yeah, just
Speaker 2: and watch her show.
Speaker 4: So thank yeah, Tiffany, fix my flips on every Thursday,
Speaker 4: nineteenth Central. We're on Primetime. Baby, listen, you're doing prodcasts.
Speaker 1: You know, I love it. I love it all right, y'all.
Speaker 2: We will see you next week. Actually, we'll see you
Speaker 2: on Friday for our BAQA. You know, if you have
Speaker 2: questions that need answers when it comes to business, career
Speaker 2: or money, you can ask them and we are answering
Speaker 2: them on BAQA.
Speaker 1: So see you guys on Friday. And Paige, I will
Speaker 1: see you hopefully one day soon, very soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tiffany. Hey, ba fam, we could not do
Speaker 3: this show without your support or the support of our
Speaker 3: team behind the scenes. The Brown Ambision podcast is produced
Speaker 3: by Imani Crosby and Dennis Sanplinsky is our in house
Speaker 3: tech guru.
Speaker 1: I am your co host Mandy Wilders Santos, and we
Speaker 1: will see y'all next week.
Speaker 4: Ba Fama