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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome to Chargers Weekly. Here at the boat

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Speaker 2: with jaliel Adaie post draft, the post press conference, getting

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Speaker 2: ready for the first bit of offseason activities, rookie camp,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff has come up in the next couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks. We got our list of eighteen undrafted free

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Speaker 2: agents that have been brought in. But Jalil, since it

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Speaker 2: was pretty much Chris and me doing the post round

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Speaker 2: draft wrap up, figure, it's important to get you and

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Speaker 2: on this thing and kind of talk about your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the hall that Joe Ortiz and Chad Alexander and

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Speaker 2: all those guys came up with and what they're walking

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Speaker 2: into the season with in terms of rookies. Just maybe

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Speaker 2: your overall perspective on all the guys that they.

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Speaker 1: Got, all right, when you just just look at the

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Speaker 1: guys that they picked, right, they failed avoid in every

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Speaker 1: position that we even talked about, you know, previously weeks

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Speaker 1: on the pod right right, starting off with Marion Hampton.

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Speaker 1: You just see who he is. We talked about him

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Speaker 1: several times, big physical running backs, quick fast, he checks

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Speaker 1: all the boxes, right, He's a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball and those guys want to build this offensive

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Speaker 1: around they want a big, physical running back, and they

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Speaker 1: got him in with the first round pick. We talked

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Speaker 1: about it before. We talked about the d tackle Mari right.

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Speaker 1: So he's big, stout, keeps his shoulder square to the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage right. He plays very square. He has he.

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Speaker 2: For people that are listening to they may not know

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Speaker 2: what that means when you.

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Speaker 1: So when you play square right as a defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: you never want your shoulders turned to the sideline right,

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Speaker 1: because then you just get washed by and you create

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Speaker 1: lanes for running backs to run. He's a guy that

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Speaker 1: plays with physical solocent and gravity. His hands are on

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Speaker 1: he's square to the line of scrimmage, so he can

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Speaker 1: shock and shed at any direction that he wants to,

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Speaker 1: and he does that really good. I watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of his film when they drafted him. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me look at him. And he's double teamed a lot,

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Speaker 1: and he's holding his anchor that coach call it the

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Speaker 1: anchor point, right, So he's eating up to and then

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Speaker 1: he's able to get skinny when he needs to to

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Speaker 1: defeat the block and make a lot of plays in

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Speaker 1: the backfield. Yeah, and I think just just looking at

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Speaker 1: their top three, we talked about they like hit it

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Speaker 1: look at Trey and what they did with Trey Harris,

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Speaker 1: big physical guy, and he's in the SEC. So he's

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Speaker 1: seeing the best of the best defensive backs weekend and

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Speaker 1: week out. So when you're watching that film to be

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Speaker 1: able to evaluate him, it's not a hit or miss.

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Speaker 1: It's like, listen, he's going against top competition weekend, week out,

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Speaker 1: very very fast. Gets for being as tall he is

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Speaker 1: and lank as he is, he gets in and out

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Speaker 1: of his breaks really really well. And then you move

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Speaker 1: over to Kyle Right, we talked about him and I

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, uh, SEC defensive player of the year

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Speaker 1: in the conference and in the nation. To fall that far,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how he felt that far,

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Speaker 1: but I'm happy that he did. Right. We talked about

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Speaker 1: him being in the package, the NASCAR package, and you

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Speaker 1: have just your your guys that are just going on

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Speaker 1: third downs. We're not worried about to run, We're just

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Speaker 1: coming after the quarterback. And I think they did a

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Speaker 1: really really good job just addressing those positions that we

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Speaker 1: look at the tight end position, right, we talked about

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Speaker 1: did their work, they did a due diligence and they

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Speaker 1: found a guy who they feel like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: said it was a deep tight end draft, right, and

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Speaker 1: was there, he was available floor to guy. I know

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Speaker 2: I wanted to put it out there for yalation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll start, you know what, then.

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Speaker 2: Then I'll kind of sort of dig in. Now we'll

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Speaker 2: you know, a defensive back when you see that come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's crazy. He's a he's a North Carolina guy.

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Speaker 1: not want to tackle on Sunday. That was his exact words, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's just that physical presence when you come down

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Speaker 1: That's idea when you have a back like a Martin

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Speaker 1: He reads, he reads the line, he reads the linebackers,

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Speaker 1: he's shooting downhill. It's tough for a five ten two

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Speaker 1: when and when that physical battle, it's just it's challenging,

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Speaker 1: on is being tough, physical and tough as nails, and

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Speaker 1: that's what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's just so much there. I think

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Speaker 2: and look, values are starting to get so I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: for an incentive laden deal that could push it to

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Speaker 2: And it's like, well, Trey McBride just got nineteen million

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Speaker 2: no there to me, there's you're already getting a financial

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Speaker 2: If Omari and Hampton is what we think he can become,

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Speaker 2: you know you're going to get the bump right away.

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Speaker 2: If we believe that he can be a top ten

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Speaker 2: you're going to get financial value out of that. And

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing too that we brought up

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Speaker 2: Julil and just kind of from your experience being in

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Speaker 2: he walks through that door and you're a teammate and

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Speaker 2: you see what he looks like. It's not it's not

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Speaker 2: Like I would assume that goes a long way, like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is what coach said, we're gonna be mm hm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, okay, well it's not. He's just not

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Speaker 1: I think the guys know that already with Coach Harball

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Speaker 1: behind closed doors. And like you said, when you see

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Speaker 1: You can have all the fancy buzz and whistles, you

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Speaker 1: a break, right. So when you have that that wears

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that that actually is if you

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Speaker 2: were going through strengths and weaknesses. Like that's one of

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Speaker 2: the concerns with with a Marian is he sought out contact.

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Speaker 2: He wants hits, and it's like love it, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: It's maybe just let's go fifty Percent's dial it back

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Speaker 2: a little bit because obviously, but the crazy thing is, guy,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why Najir hair is being here

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Speaker 1: similar to him, similar running style right in a way

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Speaker 1: he's been healthy. Yeah, right, So he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: he can he's a vet that he can lean on

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Speaker 1: and say, so, what is it? What are you doing

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Speaker 1: to take care of your body? Who works on you?

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Speaker 1: What's your regimen? How do you see this? Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're running on the sideline and there's two defensive

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Speaker 3: to do is at times play with penetration through gaps

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Speaker 3: and shooting gaps, at times play square, take on double teams,

432
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 3: and when when we talk about playing square and big,

433
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 3: it's like if you were if you were watching the

434
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Speaker 3: game from the end zone, behind our behind our defense,

435
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: in my opinion, to be good, you would you would

436
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 3: want to be able to read everybody's jersey number as

437
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 3: the plays going on, and guys that get turned, guys

438
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 3: whose shoulder turn you have more of an opportunity to

439
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 3: get washed, get pushed down by offensive line, which creates

440
00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,919
Speaker 3: movement for them. They're now creating movement, they're creating a

441
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 3: new line of scrimmage. And so the ability to play

442
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 3: square knock the offensive line back clears things up for

443
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 3: the second level, clears things up for the third level.

444
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 3: And everything about being good on defense starts with the

445
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 3: ability having guys up front to be.

446
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 1: Able to do that.

447
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,400
Speaker 3: And so we're super excited about him and the guys

448
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 3: we added in free agency, some of our returning players

449
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 3: that we feel we can be improved on the D

450
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 3: line as well.

451
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Speaker 2: If we just stick with Jamari. It's you know, it's funny.

452
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 2: Is someone you know, we cover the draft and it's

453
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Speaker 2: all the build up and you've got months, so you've

454
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Speaker 2: got a million different This guy's top one fifty and

455
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 2: this is the depth and how they rank, and it

456
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 2: just seemed like when Jamari got picked based on where

457
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 2: he was slotted on all of those lists, everybody just

458
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 2: start they lit up, They glow. Hey, you watch Derek

459
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: Carr and this guy pops off the tape. It's when

460
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: you described him, it sounded like Poona Ford. It almost

461
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,479
Speaker 2: sounded like you were describing exactly what Poona did. So

462
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 2: how do you identify those guys? And why judging by

463
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Speaker 2: the contract you got poon On last year and where

464
00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 2: you drafted Jamari, why maybe are they not seen valued

465
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 2: is high?

466
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure about the last part.

467
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: I think you know, teams certainly certainly have their own

468
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: style of evaluations, their own style of defense that they're

469
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: trying to play for us. It's like you've got to

470
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 3: be big enough to hold up, so there's a size

471
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 3: requirement needed. And then to me, it's like, do you

472
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 3: have good enough feat to be able to be athletic

473
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Speaker 3: to push the pocket, to win one on ones on

474
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 3: guards or centers in the passing game. And when you

475
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 3: watch his film, you know he's it's really cool because

476
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: he's played really in two different systems.

477
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: In college.

478
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Speaker 3: He played at Houston in a very penetrating get up

479
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 3: the field, calls havoc. He was very successful doing that.

480
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 3: And then he goes to Oregon, a defensive system that

481
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: you know I have seen a bunch over the years

482
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 3: on tape, their guys play square at times, their two gapping.

483
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: They also do some movements. And so what he's been

484
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Speaker 3: asked to do the last two years and been able

485
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Speaker 3: to put on tape really jump off the tape at us.

486
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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, I mean, yeah, we we're watching a

487
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of times it happens you're watching

488
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: a guy, another guy starts showing up.

489
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Speaker 4: On the tape.

490
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: Then you then you do your evaluation on him, and

491
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 3: it just you know, sort of just makes everything make

492
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 3: make great sense of the type of player he is.

493
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: To me, it's great value for us at the spot

494
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: we got him at, you know. And and I think

495
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: he's got a chance to come in and be immediate contributor.

496
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Speaker 1: I do.

497
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Speaker 3: I do see some similar qualities to Poona and his

498
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Speaker 3: skill set and and major shout out to Puna Ford.

499
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 3: I mean the way the way that he played this

500
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: past year. He took a chance on us as coaches,

501
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: as an organization. Uh, super happy for him and his

502
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Speaker 3: family for for what he was able to get.

503
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Speaker 4: And so it's like, yeah, you.

504
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Speaker 3: Do got to find a find a guy that can

505
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Speaker 3: maybe replace those things. And feel great about Jamari and

506
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: excited to get him here over this next couple of weeks.

507
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Speaker 2: Just speaking to Poona and getting the deal, and like

508
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: you said, great, I mean, played his tail off and

509
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: was just an incredible reason for the team success. How

510
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 2: does that help you in free agency when something like

511
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: that happens and a guy ends up getting a deal

512
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: like that, coming here on a prove it deal.

513
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think we had a couple guys

514
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: like that.

515
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Really, you know, I think Kristin Folten the same thing.

516
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Speaker 2: Man.

517
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Speaker 3: Just just the respect and love I have for both

518
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: those guys when they come in. You know, you when

519
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 3: you go through a season together, you become really really close.

520
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: I mean you're you're in the trenches, you're counting on

521
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 3: each other, you're working together, you're working really hard. And

522
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: so both those guys, you know, we kind of pointed

523
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Speaker 3: out of like, hey, let's get him here. Yeah, they

524
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: were certainly on maybe prove it type of contracts that

525
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 3: whatever that is, and both certainly have now you know,

526
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: help help their own futures, their own families futures with

527
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Speaker 3: the deals that they got.

528
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Speaker 4: So so it does it makes you.

529
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Speaker 3: Know, like like Ben talking earlier, you know, it makes

530
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Speaker 3: him see a couple of those type of guys, and

531
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Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, now I'm kind of I kind of

532
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: want to put myself in that position. And so, uh

533
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: it's something that we did talk about with some of

534
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: the guys of the ability to come here and and

535
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: hopefully be put in position to take advantage of your

536
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: skill set. And yeah, so it was a good selling

537
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: point having a few guys like that, and then and

538
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 3: then you know, and then ultimately you know, Elijah and

539
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: was kind of in the same boat, and that was

540
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: when we were we were able to re sign. So

541
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: you always you always want to try to try to

542
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: resign all those guys. The way it works, you can't

543
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: resign everybody. That's just the nature of salary cap and

544
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: and uh, the way the league works. But uh, man,

545
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: just happy for those guys, Happy for those guys and

546
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: how they played them and their families now, happy that

547
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: we got some of them back, uh, and then happy

548
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: that we're able to kind of add some new ones

549
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: and see if we can see if we can do

550
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: that for a couple more guys this year.

551
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can't coach, you can uh. So I'm late.

552
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: I was undrafted, right, and obviously safety, and you guys

553
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: played a lot of safeties with the safety rotation with Dringwin,

554
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: Elijah A. Lowhi allouned during to play close to the

555
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And for those who may not be

556
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: from Marrie with r J Mickens right a six round

557
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: draft pick out of Clemson. And if you're RJ and

558
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: you're watching this this podcast and you want an opportunity

559
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: to make this squad you'r a late round draft pick,

560
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: you see that they do use safeties a lot in

561
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: this In his defense, obviously, special teams is majority of

562
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: what he's going to get the opportunity to show what

563
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: he can do. But what are you looking for in

564
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: a young safety? Like how versatile does he? Does he

565
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: have to be? What do you see and what makes

566
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: you light up about a young safety like this guy?

567
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: I trust him. I want to see him out there

568
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: make plays.

569
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and kind of the way the way

570
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 3: that I look at safeties is there's there's a couple

571
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: of different types. There's the types that are more maybe

572
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: back guys first, where when you're playing split safeties and

573
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: and guys in the post they have the ability to

574
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: be an eraser, they have ball skills, they have anticipation,

575
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: they're really good tacklers in the open field. That's what

576
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: I see with RJ. He also does have the versatility,

577
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: so he's kind of got a little bit of combination

578
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: of both types of guys. But you know, you look

579
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: at our roster and it's and really all three of

580
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: those guys have some versatility, but a couple of them

581
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: are maybe built better to stay back to not be

582
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: as close at times. They can still get the guys

583
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: down if they break through. They got great route anticipation,

584
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: they got great ball skills, they got great communication skills,

585
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: and then you got a guy like DJ, where the

586
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: closer you can get that guy to the ball, the

587
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: better he is. And it doesn't matter if you just

588
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 3: knew where the ball was going, you'd want to put

589
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 3: him at the point of attack. And so that's what

590
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: we try to do with him. Teams know that, so

591
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 3: at times they do things away from him or whatever.

592
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: But he is really impactful when he's up close, when

593
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: he's attacking, when he's playing fast and physical and free.

594
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: He's great in the run game. So when you need

595
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: when you're playing with some of these lighter boxes that

596
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: by playing split safety you need a nickel or a

597
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: guy from the perimeter that can come in late and

598
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: be a really physical presence in the run game. And

599
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: so you know, we have a lot of versatility now

600
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: in that room.

601
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: RJ.

602
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: You mentioned it special teams, but also just hey, come in,

603
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: learn those backspots first. I think when you learn that first,

604
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: and then and then maybe have the ability to move

605
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: forward as he develops.

606
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: One thing during the draft that you'll hear and I

607
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: just feel, you know, I'm sure fans love it, but

608
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: there's so much coming at them, is there? Oh, this

609
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: is a great corner for them because they play zone

610
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: x percent of the time. They play a lot of

611
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: quarters and and so I look at at bridges and

612
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: just kind of looks like a Pressman corner. And then

613
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: they say, oh, the Chargers play more zone than almost.

614
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: So kind of walk us through if you don't mind.

615
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: We love kind of doing this with people that listen

616
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: and watch they as people are talking about these how

617
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: they describe you versus how you see yourself and what

618
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: you're looking for in a corner in a zone corn,

619
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: a boundary corner, a pressman corner, and why you're drafting

620
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: these guys are signing these guys.

621
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Speaker 3: You know, it goes back a little bit to the

622
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: first question of like you take what you have and

623
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: you utilize what their skill sets are. So you know,

624
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: if I'd been in rooms where you got a bunch

625
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: of really good man guys, guess what our man percentages

626
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: would probably be a lot higher. So I think you're

627
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: I think at corner you're always trying to draft guys

628
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: that can play man first, that have that ability to

629
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 3: match up on all the elite receivers that we have

630
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: to defend, but also have some sense. And I don't

631
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: think you can be a scheme where you play exclusive

632
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: against the quarterbacks that we play against. It doesn't matter

633
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: what the coverage is. You can't play the same coverage

634
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: over and over again without them eventually figuring out the holes,

635
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: the weak spots, whatever. So you know, whether you're spinning

636
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 3: zones or whether you're spinning man. To me, it's like,

637
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: it's what you have, it's what your players are good at,

638
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: it's what they're best at.

639
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: It's what you know.

640
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: Maybe in a situation where you can sprinkle something in

641
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: that you haven't done as much because it may.

642
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: Catch them by surprise.

643
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: So I would like to play more man, but I

644
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: also I'm also gonna always do what our guys do

645
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: well and try to put them in position to be successful.

646
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: So when when we're looking at corners in the draft,

647
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: I do think it starts with the ability to play man,

648
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: but also having some sense. He is a very versatile

649
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: piece in the secondary. He has started games at both

650
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: corner and safety. He's a really good open field tackler,

651
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: and and so that ability once again all these guys

652
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: to move around to play different positions. When you're at

653
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: this level and you know from being it's there's there's

654
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: a numbers game, and you may have ten dbs on

655
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: your roster for an entire season, and you're gonna have

656
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Speaker 3: guys that go down. And I've always told Clink and

657
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: I our secondary coach works so well together because if

658
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: our if our starting whatever safety or corner goes down,

659
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: I want the next best defensive back into the game,

660
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: and it and it's whatever whoever that is, whatever position

661
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: they're on, pakersand the next best guy into the game.

662
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: So guys that have the versatility, you know, Ben's the

663
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: same way Ben's played in the slot before, he's played outside.

664
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: D Jack has played all over the secondary and his time.

665
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Uh tar Heeb did that as a rookie, and so

666
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: really just the versatile pieces. Uh but make no mistake

667
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: about it. I do think at corner it starts with

668
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: being able to cover people. And uh so there's a

669
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: little bit of like, well they're a zone team, and

670
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: I hope you know that stays out there as the narrative.

671
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Speaker 2: We'll keep pushing it.

672
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Most definitely, I got one more for Kyle Canard right.

673
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: SEC Player of the Year, National Player of the Year

674
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: falls around four And to me, I was telling the money,

675
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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the steals of the draft,

676
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: just what he brings in aspect of past rushing. When

677
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like him, and obviously I

678
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: don't from what I've watched, he's not every right now,

679
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: He's not a first and second down guy. I see

680
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: him as like a NASCAR package guy, right, pin your

681
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: ears back, get after the quarterback third down. Do you

682
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: see that's Do you see the similarities in what I'm

683
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: saying about him when you watch his tape when you

684
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: evaluated him and what you're getting out of him as

685
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: a pass.

686
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: Rusher, Yeah, I mean you know, there's no there's nothing

687
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: that replaces production. And when you look at his production

688
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: in the SEC, SEC, you know, when you got to me,

689
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: it's like there's there's the big ten in the SEC.

690
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: However you want to rank him, I'm not. I'm staying

691
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: out of that argument. But the SEC always leads the

692
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: NF the draft and picks. Of course, you know they

693
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Speaker 3: had a tackle go with the fourth pick in the

694
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Speaker 3: draft that this guy lined up against in rush against

695
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: and had some really good opportunities, some really good one

696
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: on ones. And so the production speaks for itself.

697
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: You don't.

698
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: You don't become SEC Defensive Player of the Year or

699
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: win the Nigirsky Award if you're not a really dominant

700
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: player in that conference.

701
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Speaker 4: And uh so I do.

702
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: I do think his path early is as a rusher,

703
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: but I also think his game really translates to to

704
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: how we play on every down. He's walking into a

705
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: room with two really strong veterans to learn from, a

706
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: young guy that's a sending that's also a guy to

707
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: learn from, and I think there's a lot of similarities,

708
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: maybe not in their play style, but truly super productive

709
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: college player and the sack numbers and things like that.

710
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: Same thing with Kyle, and so I think you know,

711
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: Kyle was at another school, an older player. Sometimes those factors,

712
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, may hurt a guy sliding in the draft,

713
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: But we couldn't be more excited to get him whatever

714
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: whatever spot we were in. That's a guy that I

715
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: know myself and Dylan Roney, who works with our edges,

716
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: we had targeted as a guy we really liked and

717
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: so super excited to get him and excited to see

718
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: the impact that I think he'll make for us.

719
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Speaker 2: You kind of two other draft picks sort of, I mean,

720
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: just based on playing time in Colston and a boy

721
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Be so kind of walk us through their development. I mean,

722
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Colston's different because of the injury, but a boyd Be.

723
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: It felt like coach Elston had said, hey, this is

724
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: probably a developmental pross he total set right after the draft,

725
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: just kind of where he is and what the view

726
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: is for each of those guys going into this year.

727
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, justin start with Justin. I mean, this guy, you know,

728
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: I know, I know, he's a competitor, and anytime you're

729
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: a competitor and you don't play as much as your

730
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: competitive self wants you to play, there can be frustrating times.

731
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: I give him a lot of credit for keeping his

732
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: head down, working, developing, getting better.

733
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: As the season went on.

734
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Speaker 3: And after the season, you know, some of some of

735
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: the conversations were just around the ability to make a

736
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: big jump from year one to year two, and so

737
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: many guys do that. I think it's it's it's more

738
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: rare to have the rookies come in and have success,

739
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: maybe like the corners were able to do, and it's

740
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: more it's more normal to get your feet wet a

741
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: little bit as a rookie and now you know what

742
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: it's like, and now you develop, and now your second

743
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: year you really step in there. So you know, not

744
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: to put super high expectations on Justin uh, but we

745
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: have a we do have high expectations for him.

746
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: I could not be.

747
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: More proud and excited of the work that he's put in.

748
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: He's put on twenty plus pounds since the end of

749
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: the season. He's trained with coach Herb quite a bit,

750
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: which I'm really excited about because I know the impact

751
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: that he can have on guys in their in their development.

752
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: And so he's in a great place right now. He's

753
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: he's got another really good room. But now I think

754
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: he's he's in a better position physically to do some

755
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: of the things that we need him to do. And

756
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: he's in a great place going into year or two

757
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: to to be able to help.

758
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Us, right.

759
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously with Junior.

760
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: Just yeah, Junior, you know, I think similarly. And then

761
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: that's the when you when you pick a guy third round,

762
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: you have a couple older linebackers on the team, you know,

763
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: I think at this time last year, I mean didn't

764
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: really know the development that dayon the track, that dayon

765
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: might go on. Obviously super excited about him and what

766
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: he was able to do. And and so Junior, uh

767
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: kind of kind of suffered a few I don't want

768
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: to call him flukes, because nothing's really a fluke, but

769
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: he had an appendectomy right before camp started, missed most

770
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: of training camp in and out with a few things.

771
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: He's another one that he's spent a lot.

772
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: Of time uh here, spent a lot of time with

773
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: Coach Herb getting getting back to kind of the training

774
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: that I know he's used to and getting his body right.

775
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: And another guy that and you said it, I I

776
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: told the defensive staff, I mean, I really feel like

777
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: in the front seven, it's really for four draft choices,

778
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: four young guys where we needed to add younger pieces.

779
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: When you just look at the future of the roster

780
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: and how it's built, so super excited about both those guys,

781
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: and both will have major opportunities to help us.

782
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: All right, get you on this just a quick one.

783
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: I know, defensive side of the ball, but you try

784
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: to figure out who all these undrafted free agents are

785
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: and going through and watching, I don't think I've ever

786
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: been so excited on a highlight pack at just Stebo

787
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Clots and those full back blocks. I mean, I don't

788
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: know if you had a chance to is there is

789
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: there any reason to get that excited about it. I mean,

790
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I know it's not the most physical conference in the

791
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Big twelve, but man, that dude just wrecked people as

792
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: a full back. It was a lot of fun to watch.

793
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys are hard to find, and I

794
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: mean there's you know, you look at you look at

795
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: a couple of the top fullbacks in the NFL, and

796
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: it's it's people taking people from other positions trying to

797
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: train them to do that, which which obviously we've done

798
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: with Scott and he did a great job as a

799
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: two way player last year, you know, kind of filling

800
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: that role. But anytime you get you get some guys

801
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: like that. You know, just excited to see it in

802
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: training camp, you know, once the pads are on and

803
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: and uh see the see the physicality of players like that.

804
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: When you when you when.

805
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: You build an offense like we do, it only makes

806
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: the defense better because you can't be a physical defense

807
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: without practicing against a physical offense. And so I think

808
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: we have a great benefit practicing against what our guys do,

809
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: both in the run game, in the past game justin

810
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: Herbert all the weapons now that that Joe I think

811
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: did a phenomenal job in the draft, just helping the

812
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: roster in general. You know, it's not an offense first

813
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: defense thing. It's it's how can we add great players

814
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: to make the team better. Uh, team success overrides everything.

815
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: So very excited about all the guys we were able

816
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: to add and and look forward to getting them here

817
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: next weekend with Rickie Minni Caamp.

818
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited as well. Coach asked you for a

819
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: lot of time, you gave it to us. Certainly appreciate it.

820
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 4: Thanks, Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you guys, Thank you all.

821
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: Right, Julia, Well, good way to kind of get the

822
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: off season program started with one of our favorite coaches.

823
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: Coach men are just so insightful, really, you learn something

824
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: every time you sit down with him. Chargers incredibly lucky

825
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: to have him here because we keep We said it

826
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: last year and we're gonna say it again this year.

827
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: I just I feel like, ain't gonna be long, man,

828
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna be long before that guy gets the head job.

829
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I agree with you. We were talking about it, like

830
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: what he did with the defense last year, the pieces

831
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: he had to plug in when injuries happened, and he

832
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: touched on a little bit and just you know, using

833
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: players at their strength their weaknesses, and that's not an

834
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: easy thing to do, right A lot of coaches aren't

835
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: able to do that. And that's why he's one of

836
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: the best in the game right now.

837
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: And I think if I could just focus on one

838
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: thing he talked about for me, it's a boy be

839
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: and because there was production there at Alabama, and you

840
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: get excited about him coming in from that kind of

841
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: program with that sort of production, and you heard coach

842
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Elston say, yeah, he's more of a developmental player, and

843
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: that's exactly what it was. So to hear that he's

844
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: ready to take that next step. You saw it in

845
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: the SEC and man, that would be a huge get

846
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: for them, along with Caldwell, along with Hand and all

847
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: those guy Jones, the guys that they signed, because we

848
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: know how important that middle of the line is to

849
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: the All right, well, that's recap again on the draft.

850
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: There's eighteen udfas when all these rookies get out here,

851
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: we're going to keep breaking it down, keep moving forward. Hopefully, Julia,

852
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: we see you real soon. So going to be maybe

853
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: a little while as he embarks upon another phase of

854
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: his professional career, but we'll always be here, ready and

855
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: willing to have you back to break it all down.

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00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate your money being a pleasure.

857
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: All right, everyone, enjoy it. We'll be back again next

858
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: week and we'll be talking about more and more of

859
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: these young players as they start to arrive in the

860
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: off season program gets underway. Meanwhile, thanks for watching, Rate Review,

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