WEBVTT - Phone Sober-ish 0:00:00.130 --> 0:00:02.630 All right, welcome to the Rage Pod. We're all pissed off. 0:00:02.690 --> 0:00:04.580 I'm just going to get into it. But we have 0:00:04.630 --> 0:00:07.860 recorded this episode five times over. None of the equipment 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:12.120 has worked out. Apparently, E-Bar did a slow fall off 0:00:12.140 --> 0:00:14.820 of the bed, knocked over all of the equipment with 0:00:14.860 --> 0:00:17.230 Wendy in the room. I don't know what the f * * * 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.430 is going on. What I will say, welcome to the 0:00:20.470 --> 0:00:23.230 Rage Pod yet again. You can hear it in my voice, 0:00:23.450 --> 0:00:25.110 but that's why we're f * * * ing here 0:00:25.130 --> 0:00:29.020 doing this f * * * ing and recording this 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.600 one specifically for the 17th time in a goddamn row. 0:00:49.390 --> 0:00:51.989 We're switching things up for season two, so why don't 0:00:52.010 --> 0:00:53.790 you go ahead and tell them what the. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.400 Well, first of all, that's my lovely co-host, Tara Erickson. 0:00:59.900 --> 0:01:03.170 As per usual, we are here with our producer, Wendy. 0:01:03.810 --> 0:01:05.950 And I just want to clarify one thing. When she 0:01:06.010 --> 0:01:09.990 said that I fell on our equipment, there wasn't a 0:01:10.410 --> 0:01:14.880 single piece of equipment that I didn't take down with me. 0:01:16.260 --> 0:01:18.120 Everything was turned over upside down. 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:18.840 Including lights. 0:01:19.420 --> 0:01:22.440 And when I finally got up and we looked at 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.660 each other like, oh my God, did that just happen? 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.380 Then the one standing piece of equipment, the one ring 0:01:28.420 --> 0:01:31.180 light that survived just tips over. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.800 Like in a sad, fuck you, you're not done. 0:01:34.819 --> 0:01:39.280 It was so funny. 0:01:39.340 --> 0:01:41.720 And I was trying not to laugh, trying to get 0:01:41.770 --> 0:01:44.410 this shit set up. And then we think we get 0:01:44.450 --> 0:01:48.770 it there and Ibar fucking tumbles ass off the bed 0:01:48.790 --> 0:01:51.570 and took out everything. It was kind of what we needed. 0:01:51.970 --> 0:01:54.070 So we're raging. We're raging. 0:01:54.190 --> 0:01:57.470 And as Tara mentioned, season two, we're doing things a 0:01:57.550 --> 0:01:58.779 little bit differently. 0:01:59.960 --> 0:02:02.220 As you can see, we are still enraged. Don't worry. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.060 We're still very much in that state. 0:02:04.500 --> 0:02:07.720 But we decided like, hey, what if we tried to 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:13.269 combat some of our rage or distract or just have 0:02:13.330 --> 0:02:19.070 some fun with some different activities? Some pattern disruptors, which 0:02:19.130 --> 0:02:24.500 apparently is a... crazy novel term to my co-host Tara. 0:02:24.540 --> 0:02:28.480 But anyway, so doing some things like something you've always 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.440 wanted to do, but you're too scared to do it, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.700 facing your fears, you know, maybe doing, trying some healthier 0:02:35.740 --> 0:02:38.290 habits for a period of time and seeing what that 0:02:38.330 --> 0:02:42.230 does for you. So we're going to do for every episode, 0:02:42.250 --> 0:02:44.889 we're going to do something like that. And for this 0:02:45.310 --> 0:02:48.510 very first episode, which is truly been a shit show, 0:02:48.530 --> 0:02:50.370 we did something that was. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:57.660 For our mental and emotional health, we did no phones 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:58.700 for 12 hours. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:00.739 No phones. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:01.179 For one week. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:02.780 For one week. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.750 Thank you. For one week. 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. 0:03:05.770 --> 0:03:06.690 is where we started. 0:03:06.750 --> 0:03:09.430 And then we very quickly realized we are not going 0:03:09.450 --> 0:03:12.410 to be able to stay within those confines. 0:03:12.450 --> 0:03:15.030 Like, we're not in the military. We're not doctors. 0:03:15.780 --> 0:03:15.970 So. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:18.360 Very like off. 0:03:18.580 --> 0:03:20.700 I think it was like day two when I was like, OK, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.300 I think I'm doing nine to nine. There's a lot 0:03:23.340 --> 0:03:27.980 of like a lot on our group chat of, oh, shit, I. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:28.800 Think I'm 945. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.760 That means my morning is going to be real long. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.250 I want us to all talk about what our experience was, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.330 because what what came obvious to me is like, when 0:03:40.350 --> 0:03:42.710 did this thing become an appendage? Like, when did this 0:03:42.750 --> 0:03:47.250 thing become something that I'm constantly attached to? And 91% 0:03:47.250 --> 0:03:51.940 of American adults own a smartphone. And 41% of adults 0:03:51.980 --> 0:03:56.580 say they are online almost constantly. So we're all addicted. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.060 We're all on it. Like Ibar and Tara said, we 0:04:00.100 --> 0:04:04.320 decided let's try and go without it. And what were 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.620 some of your initial reactions? Like, let's go to night one. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.160 You put the phone away. What do you do? Ibar, 0:04:11.180 --> 0:04:11.740 what did you do? 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.390 I signed off at 9. 0:04:13.380 --> 0:04:14.140 We signed off at 9 p.m. 0:04:15.340 --> 0:04:18.760 Well, my kids are miraculously asleep. That doesn't always happen 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.580 by that time. And I was like, well, shit. And 0:04:21.020 --> 0:04:24.590 I have some stuff to ask Wendy. I was like, well, 0:04:24.830 --> 0:04:27.530 I can't call her. So I'm just going to like 0:04:27.850 --> 0:04:30.450 a psychopath go over there and just start banging on 0:04:30.470 --> 0:04:33.450 all of her windows, which I did. And I just 0:04:33.470 --> 0:04:37.820 started yelling her name. And lo and behold, she was 0:04:38.020 --> 0:04:41.099 not on her phone and just heard me and she 0:04:41.140 --> 0:04:41.580 let me in. 0:04:43.100 --> 0:04:45.980 And I was wandering aimlessly being like, what do I do? 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.560 And then we were like, what do we think Tara's doing? Tara, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.250 we were like, do you think she remembered? So what 0:04:52.270 --> 0:04:53.830 was your first night off your phone? 0:04:55.180 --> 0:04:59.919 Um, honestly, when I was sitting there, it's odd when I, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.260 cause we, we didn't say that we didn't, couldn't do 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:07.600 any screens. So, um, I was watching TV, but then 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.540 I just made a bunch of Halloween projects. Not going 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.039 to lie because there's something as we all know that 0:05:14.100 --> 0:05:16.960 scripts nowadays are, have to be like second screen approved, 0:05:16.980 --> 0:05:19.380 which means they want now that the world is how 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.120 it is. People fucking watch TV, but they're also on 0:05:22.140 --> 0:05:23.200 their phones same time. 0:05:23.350 --> 0:05:23.850 Oh, for sure. 0:05:24.950 --> 0:05:28.930 And for me, I was like, well, wait, what am 0:05:28.970 --> 0:05:29.450 I going to do? 0:05:29.510 --> 0:05:35.339 So I started drawing on cardboard for fun. And then 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:41.210 it eventually progressed to, To a Black Cat Curiosity box, 0:05:41.250 --> 0:05:43.640 which is a good time. And look at me now, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.679 still doing it. Like, honestly, I get packages. And then 0:05:49.260 --> 0:05:52.940 I now will... Because for my other job, I still 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.390 have to record at home. And I watch TV on 0:05:55.610 --> 0:06:00.110 my computer. I'll still just draw on cardboard. And I'm like, 0:06:00.190 --> 0:06:02.109 this is great. So the one thing. 0:06:02.830 --> 0:06:05.210 that it was a little bit of hellish. 0:06:05.620 --> 0:06:10.020 I did find another way to keep myself busy. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.460 Your black cat curiosity box is so awesome. You have 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.159 to go check it out on your Instagram at Tara Erickson. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:18.580 It's really cool. 0:06:20.060 --> 0:06:22.450 I love that you are like that you gained a 0:06:22.510 --> 0:06:28.670 new craft and I just broke new boundaries by like 0:06:28.970 --> 0:06:31.510 trying to break and enter my neighbor's residence. 0:06:32.529 --> 0:06:34.540 Her house to be like, what the hell are we 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.040 going to do? 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:36.200 What am I going to do? 0:06:36.420 --> 0:06:36.800 Books? 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.080 Am I going to dust off an old crossword? 0:06:41.180 --> 0:06:43.200 Actually, I would, I would love that. I should have 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:43.620 done that. 0:06:44.300 --> 0:06:46.599 You should have done that. I read a little bit. 0:06:46.660 --> 0:06:50.180 But honestly, and I know you said it wasn't as 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.789 hard for you. I kind of thought for some reason 0:06:52.830 --> 0:06:54.720 it wouldn't be as hard for you. I mean, look, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.260 we did use our computers. 0:06:56.300 --> 0:06:58.660 For me or for Wendy? 0:06:59.339 --> 0:07:01.480 I thought Wendy and I were joking. We were like, 0:07:01.540 --> 0:07:02.870 she's definitely just not doing it. 0:07:04.450 --> 0:07:06.560 But then I was like, if she does do it, 0:07:06.650 --> 0:07:08.990 I feel like it's not going to be as hard 0:07:09.029 --> 0:07:09.330 for her. 0:07:10.090 --> 0:07:12.890 It wasn't because I'm very used to being alone. I 0:07:12.950 --> 0:07:13.810 think there's like I. 0:07:14.650 --> 0:07:17.290 Do this shit kind of anyway. 0:07:17.770 --> 0:07:20.810 And so it kind of was, I think, nicer for 0:07:20.830 --> 0:07:24.250 me because I was like, oh, this really makes me 0:07:24.270 --> 0:07:27.760 be like, what crafty thing did you want to do? 0:07:27.860 --> 0:07:30.810 Because, you know, me, it's like 17 projects going on. 0:07:31.670 --> 0:07:33.809 And so I had to sort of just sit down 0:07:33.870 --> 0:07:35.830 and be like, well, what can you do right now? 0:07:36.190 --> 0:07:39.540 Which was kind of nice to have the hours to go, well, 0:07:39.900 --> 0:07:42.680 and I reach, I will not lie, I did reach 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.990 for the phone and I would glance at it and 0:07:45.010 --> 0:07:48.470 then go, oh no, because it's such a habit that 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.780 I didn't feel for the first like two nights when 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.000 I first would initially look at it to like look 0:07:55.020 --> 0:07:56.960 at the time and then be like, oh no, that's 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:57.460 my phone. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:58.640 Get it away from here. 0:07:58.900 --> 0:08:01.470 It's funny that you say that because that was one 0:08:01.510 --> 0:08:04.510 of the things that I noticed right away was like 0:08:04.530 --> 0:08:09.590 the phantom limb, the phantom habit of just like you know, 0:08:09.930 --> 0:08:13.390 auto response grab for your phone. And I'm like, oh 0:08:13.410 --> 0:08:15.810 my God, this is, I think I made a reel 0:08:15.850 --> 0:08:17.570 about that. I was like, this is like a cigarette 0:08:17.630 --> 0:08:23.510 for a former cigarette addict. This is disgusting. Like just 0:08:23.950 --> 0:08:27.510 what were you doing with your hands before smartphones? 0:08:27.930 --> 0:08:29.410 I would try and do it where if I was 0:08:29.470 --> 0:08:32.080 standing in line, I'm going to stand in line and 0:08:32.100 --> 0:08:34.670 I'm not going to look at my phone. And it's 0:08:34.770 --> 0:08:38.160 so hard. Because everyone else is doing it. 0:08:39.420 --> 0:08:41.880 But it's like, what did we do before that? It 0:08:41.900 --> 0:08:44.640 wasn't that long ago. You actually like look at people. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.599 You're just doing what you're doing. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:48.600 I know, right? 0:08:48.620 --> 0:08:54.679 But then it becomes weird because no one's doing that, Ibar. 0:08:54.780 --> 0:08:55.500 It's really sick. 0:08:55.540 --> 0:08:59.340 It's so sick. When you look around, you see everybody 0:08:59.500 --> 0:09:02.939 so sucked into this little thing in our hands. It's 0:09:03.100 --> 0:09:04.500 so gross. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.810 It's full black mirror, like what you're talking about. Like 0:09:07.870 --> 0:09:10.469 it's a full black mirror episode. It really is. 0:09:10.490 --> 0:09:14.080 And the time that you waste the other night, one 0:09:14.100 --> 0:09:16.880 of the earlier nights, I was off my phone and 0:09:16.900 --> 0:09:19.440 I decided to reorganize my bathroom and clean and do 0:09:19.460 --> 0:09:21.740 all this stuff. Like all these like cleaning projects I've 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.199 wanted to do, but I go to my phone, I 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.260 realized I eat dinner and then I go into my 0:09:27.300 --> 0:09:29.840 room and then I just start scrolling. And so the 0:09:29.900 --> 0:09:31.380 night that I didn't have that, I was like, all right, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.240 I'm going to reorganize my bathroom. I'm going to clean. 0:09:33.260 --> 0:09:35.140 And I was like, oh my God, this is such 0:09:35.220 --> 0:09:37.860 a better use of my time. And I just, you 0:09:37.900 --> 0:09:42.060 get hypnotized. You get hypnotized. And it's so, these phones 0:09:42.100 --> 0:09:44.160 are so bad for us. But at the same time, 0:09:44.660 --> 0:09:48.690 it does bring me so much joy to scroll. I 0:09:48.830 --> 0:09:51.670 love doing a TikTok scroll before bed. I love doing 0:09:51.710 --> 0:09:52.440 it when I wake up. 0:09:52.730 --> 0:09:53.670 But I just do it. 0:09:53.750 --> 0:09:54.130 Yeah. 0:09:54.330 --> 0:09:57.940 I feel pretty gross pretty quickly into my scrolling. Like 0:09:57.980 --> 0:10:00.600 I feel like it feels like when you eat like 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.660 fast food and you're like, I, I, I feel that 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:05.620 way pretty quickly. 0:10:05.660 --> 0:10:05.920 Yes. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:06.600 I did. 0:10:07.020 --> 0:10:09.920 I felt like the mornings were not as hard for me. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.089 Um, because I get up every morning and I'm doing 0:10:15.110 --> 0:10:18.780 dishes and I'm making breakfast. I'm thinking about what the 0:10:18.820 --> 0:10:21.940 girls are going to wear to school, all the things 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.000 that I need. And then they get up and then 0:10:25.020 --> 0:10:27.059 I'm tending to them and then we take them to school. 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:33.460 So that's my, usually it's accompanied by a podcast and 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.780 I could, or, you know, news or something like that. 0:10:36.179 --> 0:10:38.840 And I could have listened to it on my computer. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:44.460 We didn't, you know, we didn't have super stringent hard, 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.540 fast rules about second screens. which I noticed as the 0:10:47.590 --> 0:10:50.470 week went on, I got more and more loose with. 0:10:52.010 --> 0:10:53.570 Well, and that was the other thing. I think we 0:10:53.610 --> 0:10:56.790 should try it again sometime and do no screens because 0:10:56.890 --> 0:11:00.730 I just found myself scrolling on the like Roku fucking 0:11:00.790 --> 0:11:05.710 cable that has every procedural, every like dateline. Like you 0:11:05.730 --> 0:11:08.250 can just flip, flip, flip for ADHD. I'm just like, 0:11:08.350 --> 0:11:10.770 this is just me scrolling TikTok, but I'm doing it 0:11:11.070 --> 0:11:13.600 with a bigger screen and a remote. Tara, I want 0:11:13.620 --> 0:11:16.449 to ask you this question. What were your hours? Because 0:11:16.490 --> 0:11:17.970 I know you're a bit of a night owl and 0:11:18.010 --> 0:11:19.990 you sleep in late. So what would you say the 0:11:20.030 --> 0:11:21.150 hours were that you kept? 0:11:22.020 --> 0:11:25.300 Well, normally it was like 8.30, 9 to 8.39. 0:11:25.300 --> 0:11:30.280 You didn't want to push it to 4 to 40. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.220 It was always 39. 0:11:31.220 --> 0:11:38.030 No, I'm saying 8.30 to 8.39-ish to 8.30 p.m. 0:11:38.309 --> 0:11:42.070 To 9 a.m.-ish. Oh, my God. E-Bar thought I was just. 0:11:42.620 --> 0:11:46.350 Oh yeah, I specifically chose 8.39 p.m. 0:11:46.470 --> 0:11:49.110 Every night. That's very funny. 0:11:49.510 --> 0:11:52.150 Yeah, I didn't actually find it that difficult. I did 0:11:52.190 --> 0:11:57.190 those times because by that time, I was always home 0:11:57.290 --> 0:12:01.309 from work and those hours to me always led into, 0:12:02.010 --> 0:12:06.429 I'm not going to record anymore at home for my YouTube. 0:12:06.530 --> 0:12:09.400 I would be a shell of a person. So now 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.859 I'm just going to watch TV and do crafts. 0:12:13.100 --> 0:12:18.819 Well, how about on Wednesday night at 1044 p.m. when 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:26.030 I see that Tara Erickson commented on E-Bar Stand-Up's message? 0:12:26.550 --> 0:12:27.170 Oh, yeah. 0:12:27.950 --> 0:12:29.430 Somebody was online. 0:12:29.030 --> 0:12:29.200 At 1044 p.m. 0:12:29.210 --> 0:12:31.190 What do you have to say for yourself? 0:12:32.809 --> 0:12:33.650 What did I say? 0:12:35.250 --> 0:12:38.069 You were, no, you were just, you, you just commented, 0:12:38.190 --> 0:12:42.370 you just commented on a post and I noticed the time. 0:12:43.090 --> 0:12:46.840 Oh, oh, oh, oh. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:47.620 what it was about. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:52.680 I totally forgot about that. I blew all the rules 0:12:52.900 --> 0:12:54.420 out of the water Wednesday night. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:55.690 It all went to shit. 0:12:55.830 --> 0:12:56.030 Yeah. 0:12:56.170 --> 0:12:57.110 I can't wait to. 0:12:57.090 --> 0:13:00.610 Hear how everyone cheated. I, and that's why like when 0:13:00.670 --> 0:13:03.550 I saw that you were on the phone like that late, well, 0:13:03.630 --> 0:13:05.530 I was fucking on the phone that late too. Like, 0:13:05.570 --> 0:13:06.530 so it's like calling you out. 0:13:06.570 --> 0:13:07.230 I'm calling me out. 0:13:07.250 --> 0:13:09.590 Like, cause I, that's why, but I screenshotted it and 0:13:09.610 --> 0:13:11.490 I'm like, but I am such a hypocrite. 0:13:11.460 --> 0:13:13.740 Because you were on the phone. 0:13:14.940 --> 0:13:18.880 Erica, I lied to your face like a fucking junkie 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.459 the other night when we When we were sitting at 0:13:22.500 --> 0:13:25.860 the kitchen table and we did the run-up show and 0:13:26.020 --> 0:13:28.000 then it was like 8.45, you're like, so what are 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.599 you going to do? And I was like, oh, I'm 0:13:29.620 --> 0:13:31.090 going to call Steve and then I'm going to go 0:13:31.230 --> 0:13:33.610 offline at nine. And you were like, yeah, me too. 0:13:33.929 --> 0:13:36.569 The whole fucking time I knew I was lying because 0:13:36.630 --> 0:13:38.830 I was like, no, I'm not. There's a lot that 0:13:38.870 --> 0:13:41.630 happened in court that day. And I fucking went and 0:13:41.690 --> 0:13:44.660 I lied in bed and I scrolled until after midnight 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.520 catching up on my Clancy trial and all my other things. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.800 I have a major problem. I don't know what to do. 0:13:52.220 --> 0:13:54.620 And then after that, it was all gone. It was 0:13:54.660 --> 0:13:57.699 all gone. I'm a little bit in the morning. But 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.060 when I wake up at 6 a.m., I start thinking 0:14:00.100 --> 0:14:02.660 things and having questions and I want to look shit up. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.580 I'll be like, oh, I wonder about blah, blah, blah. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.440 And I'll be like, oh, look at that up. And 0:14:06.580 --> 0:14:07.900 I want to do that at 6 a.m. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:08.699 Wow. 0:14:08.780 --> 0:14:13.020 The lawyer has entered the building. Everyone who didn't see 0:14:13.100 --> 0:14:21.360 our video on Instagram, when I proposed this idea to Wendy, 0:14:22.020 --> 0:14:28.570 her first response without hesitation was, but I'm in trial. 0:14:29.970 --> 0:14:34.230 I just want to be clear. She's not a lawyer. 0:14:35.890 --> 0:14:38.050 She has been following the Clancy trial. 0:14:38.830 --> 0:14:39.610 So when she says, and. 0:14:41.170 --> 0:14:43.170 She very panically said, I. 0:14:45.190 --> 0:14:47.490 Can't, I can't do that. I'm literally on a trial. 0:14:47.610 --> 0:14:51.600 And it's like, She's not, guys, she's not in a courthouse. 0:14:51.620 --> 0:14:55.820 She's not even always like following like the news coverage 0:14:56.060 --> 0:14:59.310 or the feed of the court. It could be influencers 0:14:59.390 --> 0:15:06.710 talking about the latest news. She literally was like, as 0:15:06.770 --> 0:15:08.690 if she was a first responder saying like, yeah, but 0:15:08.710 --> 0:15:09.390 I've got to shift. 0:15:09.430 --> 0:15:10.460 I have to have my phone on. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.040 Yeah. 0:15:12.790 --> 0:15:15.580 And I gave it my all the first couple nights. 0:15:15.650 --> 0:15:18.420 But then when shit started happening midweek, I was like, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.240 I'm not going to be able to sustain it. But 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.340 then I was instantly, I'm disgusted with myself because those 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.250 two days when I did follow the rules, I felt better. 0:15:27.270 --> 0:15:28.430 Yeah. 0:15:28.450 --> 0:15:30.730 I did feel a little better. I felt a little lighter. 0:15:30.750 --> 0:15:34.330 I felt productive because I got some stuff done around 0:15:34.350 --> 0:15:37.150 the house. I did some furniture flipping stuff. Like I 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.600 was doing stuff. And it felt good to be off 0:15:39.620 --> 0:15:42.940 the screens, but it's so scary how quickly you get 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.850 sucked back into it. And I really want to try 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.730 and work hard to put those parameters up because it 0:15:49.750 --> 0:15:51.170 will make me feel better. 0:15:51.370 --> 0:15:55.590 So did it make you guys feel like less enraged, 0:15:55.770 --> 0:15:57.510 less anxious, less sad? 0:15:57.710 --> 0:16:00.330 I did have an overall like kind of just like, 0:16:01.430 --> 0:16:03.420 I just felt at ease. And I think when I 0:16:03.460 --> 0:16:06.320 was like cleaning the bathroom, I got such a dopamine hit, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.930 like organizing everything. and having everything. And I was like, oh, 0:16:10.130 --> 0:16:14.670 this is great. It's such a better use of my time. 0:16:14.690 --> 0:16:18.130 If you could just give yourself 20 minutes and then 0:16:18.230 --> 0:16:19.630 go get off your screen. 0:16:19.650 --> 0:16:19.870 Yeah. 0:16:20.010 --> 0:16:22.570 I mean, I feel like that's with any drug, right? 0:16:22.610 --> 0:16:26.720 That's always what the landslide is, is that it's like, okay, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.660 you can have this if you can have one or 0:16:29.700 --> 0:16:34.180 two of whatever it is. But then that's often where people- 0:16:35.540 --> 0:16:39.850 you know, they slip and slide into seven, eight into 0:16:39.890 --> 0:16:43.130 a bender. In which case for you, that bender was 0:16:43.770 --> 0:16:44.590 the Clancy trial. 0:16:45.370 --> 0:16:47.530 For Ibar and Wendy, did you, do you guys feel 0:16:47.550 --> 0:16:49.460 like you had any moments of clarity during it? 0:16:50.670 --> 0:16:51.010 Yeah. 0:16:51.070 --> 0:16:54.050 Like this is fucked up. I have a horrible addiction. 0:16:54.110 --> 0:16:56.550 This is eating my brain and I need to fucking 0:16:57.010 --> 0:16:58.000 get this under control. 0:16:58.990 --> 0:17:00.570 Yeah. What about you, Ibar? 0:17:01.230 --> 0:17:05.510 I definitely benefited from being off my phone at night. 0:17:05.590 --> 0:17:07.850 We're watching Six Feet Under for the first time. 0:17:07.930 --> 0:17:09.410 I know. It's like, where the fuck have we been? 0:17:10.430 --> 0:17:13.080 And so I just got to watch the show. And 0:17:13.140 --> 0:17:15.619 I was doing nothing else but watching the show, which 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.280 I love. But then I wasn't doing anything else, really. 0:17:19.859 --> 0:17:21.720 So I was getting better sleep. I was going to 0:17:21.740 --> 0:17:25.380 bed a little bit earlier. In the mornings when I'm 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.010 doing stuff, this is the other side of it for me. 0:17:28.859 --> 0:17:34.020 Not having anything else can also be a slippery slope 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.510 for me mentally. My mind can go like really fast 0:17:38.770 --> 0:17:42.790 into a negative place of just like ruminating and thinking 0:17:42.830 --> 0:17:49.409 about things and overanalyzing and replaying. And so having things 0:17:49.450 --> 0:17:52.429 like a podcast while I'm doing something as rote as 0:17:52.470 --> 0:17:55.110 like washing dishes can actually be really helpful for me 0:17:55.210 --> 0:17:58.060 to get out of my head. So I do think 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.199 like many, you know, with many things that can be, 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.990 that have the ability to be toxic or addictive, there 0:18:05.150 --> 0:18:07.149 is a function for them. Like there is a function 0:18:07.190 --> 0:18:09.730 for social media. There's a function for phones that can 0:18:09.770 --> 0:18:16.920 be for good. It's just, we so rarely use them 0:18:16.980 --> 0:18:18.260 that way, right? 0:18:18.660 --> 0:18:20.660 Do you guys feel like you would do it again? 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:25.100 I would certainly try. And I really do want to consciously- 0:18:25.740 --> 0:18:28.300 I want to consciously try and put limits on it, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.480 but oof, I went off the rails. 0:18:32.180 --> 0:18:36.070 The other thing I found that I like about doing 0:18:36.109 --> 0:18:39.070 this exercise is it also makes you. 0:18:38.990 --> 0:18:43.370 Be a little bit more resourceful and prioritize. Oh shit, 0:18:43.390 --> 0:18:43.950 I got to call. 0:18:43.970 --> 0:18:47.550 Do you have to call that person at that time? 0:18:48.490 --> 0:18:50.730 Or if you do need to get a hold of someone, 0:18:50.869 --> 0:18:52.330 you have to find another way to do it. You 0:18:52.350 --> 0:18:55.429 have to like ask someone else like, Hey, can, do 0:18:55.470 --> 0:18:58.310 you mind calling this person? Or maybe you have to 0:18:58.410 --> 0:19:00.909 email them and say, can we talk in the morning? Um, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.320 or like, I know for me, a big thing when 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:10.060 you have kids and, uh, your co-parenting, you never, you 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.700 never get your time is never just your time. Like 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.959 you always have to be accountable. So, um, there was 0:19:16.340 --> 0:19:20.330 one night I was coming home from somewhere and And 0:19:20.369 --> 0:19:22.350 I was like, well, I told him I'm going off 0:19:22.390 --> 0:19:26.490 my phone. I'll be home soon. I can't fucking dilly dally. 0:19:27.500 --> 0:19:30.500 So like three hours later, he's got the police on 0:19:30.540 --> 0:19:32.399 the line saying, well, she said she's going to be 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.540 home soon and I can't reach her. So it also 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:42.470 forced me to set some more, you know, regimen to 0:19:42.550 --> 0:19:44.190 my schedule and things that I was doing. 0:19:44.210 --> 0:19:45.010 Yeah. 0:19:45.030 --> 0:19:46.970 Okay. I said, I'm coming home. I got to come home. 0:19:47.390 --> 0:19:47.530 Yeah. 0:19:47.550 --> 0:19:48.550 That part was interesting. 0:19:49.090 --> 0:19:49.449 Yeah. 0:19:49.510 --> 0:19:50.870 Cause you like, to go rogue. 0:19:51.650 --> 0:19:51.870 Yeah. 0:19:52.550 --> 0:19:53.690 Social media scrolling. 0:19:53.790 --> 0:19:56.629 I definitely do it, but I, I get really like 0:19:57.630 --> 0:20:00.630 sick and grossed out by it pretty quickly. I'm not 0:20:00.650 --> 0:20:04.150 saying I don't do it. I definitely do it, but 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.639 I can't like, if I'm doing that every night, like you're, 0:20:08.980 --> 0:20:11.879 I might be like admitted somewhere. Yeah. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:12.960 I'm with you on that. 0:20:13.500 --> 0:20:16.000 I will give one tip to everybody listening that I 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:17.960 want us to tell us like, what's the hardest part 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:19.580