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Speaker 3: This is part three of our NBA season preview series.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skeetz up in Toronto, sipping on some tea

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Speaker 3: our first one here for part three, guys, it's about

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Speaker 3: the Battle of LA. It's going to be one of

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Speaker 3: the opening night games a little at less than a

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Speaker 3: week from now. Clippers Lakers. Who's the better team? Who

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Speaker 3: is the better team in LA? Who do you got? Guys?

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Speaker 4: It's the Clippers. And for as lame of a hot

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Speaker 4: then they go and get two superstars. The Lakers. They

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Speaker 4: went and got their one superstar and Anthony Davis. That's great,

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Speaker 4: but then when they didn't get their other one, they

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Speaker 4: you guys can come back now. Because we didn't get

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Speaker 4: We've talked about their defense already in preview one and

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Speaker 4: they're stacked one through ten. I don't see how you

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Speaker 6: I certainly have more faith in the Clippers too right now,

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Speaker 1: I think he could swing a series single handedly by

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Speaker 1: They don't have enough bodies to hang with two guys

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Speaker 1: If we're looking further and further down the line, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to take some rusts because he's gonna still

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Speaker 1: have a huge offensive low debt. Being said, Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: getting me these easy put back dunks. He's got what

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Speaker 2: He could do that, but we haven't seen it yet, and.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played on a team like this yet.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't played with Time note.

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Speaker 6: But but I'm saying, like, if he's really a franchise

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Speaker 2: But he didn't really do that.

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Speaker 6: To me, I just question whether or not he's actually

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Speaker 6: haven't seen it yet. I didn't like the way he

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Speaker 6: quit on the Pelicans. Maybe he can, you know, he

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Speaker 6: But until he does that, I'm a little on the

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Speaker 6: fence about him. A bet just how dominant he can be.

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Speaker 4: Skeet, shut Lee up.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, I mean, I hear what you're sayingly.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to use what you're spewing, this

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Speaker 3: best player I've ever played with now in Lebron, maybe

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Speaker 3: the best roster all around that I've ever had. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of attention in LA,

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Speaker 3: even especially now with this Clippers versus Lakers rivalry that

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Speaker 3: But he is He can change a game on both

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Speaker 3: it's his team. Take the Lakers obviously to one of

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Speaker 3: best players. I'm excited, like I'm hearing you with the Clippers, though,

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Speaker 3: overall they're deeper. They had a good team already, they're

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Speaker 3: excited for Lebron to have some shooting back around him again,

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Speaker 3: Avery Bradley is. He's a little hit or miss at times.

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Speaker 3: But there's more shooting, Anthony Davis, for crying out loud,

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Speaker 3: there is more shooting than this weird sort of first

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Speaker 3: do that. We're not going to do that this time.

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Speaker 3: It was stupid from the get go, and they're going

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Speaker 3: back to sort of what has worked with an older Lebron,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's going to help their chances. But

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Speaker 3: the regular season. Yes, I think it will ultimately be

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Speaker 3: the Clippers, But I like what you said there, Trey.

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Speaker 1: Who are going to be able to shut down and Anthony.

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Speaker 3: No, that's why you're hoping Danny Green and Quinn Cook.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the coach of Lebron matters that much? Though?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there just might be a more cohesive

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Speaker 2: An injury prone reputation.

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Speaker 6: For sure, fair enough to the season, not inclan last

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Speaker 4: And we don't even care that Paul George is missing

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Speaker 6: Zubats was good for them when he came over last season,

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Speaker 4: Those are fair points, but I think it's in the

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Speaker 3: first round series. Like you said to us all the

434
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Speaker 3: way from like one to nine. Oh my god, it's

435
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Speaker 3: gonna it is gonna be fun to watch. Can't wait.

436
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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to our next question here, guys,

437
00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 3: which player we're gonna focus on players here? Which player

438
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 3: is entering, in your opinion, a make or break season.

439
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 3: We're gonna start with We'll start with Lee who's entering

440
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 3: a make or break Seasonally.

441
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Speaker 6: I'm going with my uzzy dude Dante ex dude in

442
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,879
Speaker 6: Utah because he just.

443
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 2: Hasn't been how to stay healthy. Yeah, and the Jazz have.

444
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,720
Speaker 6: Actually been very good to him extending his contract. But

445
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,880
Speaker 6: the real problem for for Dante is he just hates

446
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 6: a guy. He gets injured and it kind of wipes

447
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 6: out his season, and that's he's he's facing a situation

448
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,680
Speaker 6: now where the Jazz have invested a lot, but if

449
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 6: he can't stay on the court, you figure they're just

450
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 6: gonna either try to move on from him or you know,

451
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 6: trade him whatever, because he's shown.

452
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,160
Speaker 2: He can be a good player.

453
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 6: Let's go back to that series against the Rockets in

454
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 6: the playoffs where he actually defended James Harden quite well.

455
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, he shows he can do things.

456
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Speaker 6: He can be a point guard, he's he's explosive, he's

457
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 6: got great athleticism, but his body has just let him

458
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 6: down so far and it's gotten worse. And it started

459
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 6: off okay his career. He played the eighty two games

460
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 6: in his first season, but then it's just dropped off

461
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 6: since then. And last year he was out fairly early.

462
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 6: He's had a knee, the ACL done, he did his ACL,

463
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 6: he's done his shoulder.

464
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Speaker 2: So he just has to stay on the floor and stay.

465
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Speaker 6: Healthy and contribute. Because the Jazz picked him high. I

466
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 6: think he was fifth pick.

467
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Speaker 2: I think it was.

468
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 6: And again, you know, we anytime you extend a guy's contract,

469
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 6: you're showing that you believe in this guy. But you know,

470
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 6: it's it's been a rough ride for him, and I

471
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 6: think he can be a good player. I think he

472
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Speaker 6: can be effective player, But we.

473
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Speaker 4: Also want to got Emmanuel Moodier who could hit some

474
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: of his minutes.

475
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Speaker 6: Well that's that's the other thing. I think the Jazz

476
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 6: are probably saying we need an insurance policy because this

477
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 6: guy tends to get injured. So I obviously am pulling

478
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 6: for him here. If I say I'm rooting for him

479
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 6: for an Australian, that probably sounds kind of weird. Yeah,

480
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 6: I'm pulling for him.

481
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: I hope he can.

482
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 6: I hope he can stay healthy and get out there

483
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 6: on the floor and and be an effective contributor for

484
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Speaker 6: the Jazz because he's got a lot of talent. He's

485
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 6: a good player, but we just haven't seen much of it.

486
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Speaker 3: It is wild. He's played like a little bit over

487
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: two hundred games and he's been in the league five

488
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: seasons something like that, and that's it. That is uh

489
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Speaker 3: And that's like you said, Lee, that's including a great

490
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 3: first season. Then he played all Lady two. So over

491
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Speaker 3: the last four it's been pretty rough, playing in like

492
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty games.

493
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it'll help him playing with his country mate

494
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 4: Joe Ingles off the bench. Looks like Jingles will won't

495
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 4: be starting.

496
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: Jingles he's kind of the All Star Game this year.

497
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff Green took a spot in the starting lineup.

498
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: So far, Joe will be finishing games.

499
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Speaker 3: Okay, Dante Axon, that's uh, that's X, go and give

500
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Speaker 3: it to you. That's a good one. What you got, Trey.

501
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if this necessarily qualifies as a make

502
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: or break season because the man is banking. But Jimmy

503
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: Butler's got a lot of pressure on him. He is

504
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: finally where he wants to be. You know, he was

505
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: traded from Chicago to Minnesota. It was fine because Thibadeau

506
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: was there. I don't think going to Minnesota is probably

507
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's number one choice. That the Sixers presented an

508
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: opportunity where he could, you know, get back a little

509
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: bit more spotlight and get a little bit more reputation,

510
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: play for a better team. Went there, talked about how

511
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 1: he's all about winning. All he cares about is winning,

512
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 1: and then when he had a chance in the summer,

513
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: he left a title contenter. He could have easily re

514
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: signed with the sixers. They would have paid him a

515
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: whole bunch of money and they would have probably gone

516
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Speaker 1: to the Eastern Conference Finals at least perhaps into the finals. Instead,

517
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: he wants his own team in Miami. That's pretty clear.

518
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: He wants to be the man. He wanted to be

519
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: the man in Miami. Now you are. Your team is

520
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: worse than they were when you were playing for Philadelphia.

521
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 4: They are show up, dude. It's going to be hard.

522
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Speaker 1: You've been saying you're one of the best guys in

523
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: the league and all you care about is winning. Now

524
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: is your chance to put your on a franchise that

525
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,479
Speaker 1: really matters in the NBA. Let's see if he can

526
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: do it.

527
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 4: It's not going to be easy. But the Miami scene

528
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 4: fits him right. And I don't just mean South Peach.

529
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 4: I just mean that whole roster is known for guys

530
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 4: working hard, for having these markers of body fat percentage

531
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Speaker 4: and just the cardio limits and working their butts off.

532
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Speaker 1: So it seems like it fits. The player who talks

533
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: about how hard they work the most is Jimmy Butler.

534
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: The franchise that talks about how hard they work the

535
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: most is the Miami Heat. It seems like a perfect marriage.

536
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: But you know, the talent isn't necessarily at the upper echelon,

537
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: so let's see how much Jimmy Butler can raise that

538
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: talent level.

539
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: But there's some enticing pieces there to put with Jimmy,

540
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 3: like even young guys obviously Bam and then and you know,

541
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: Dean Waiters is, you know, coming back from injury and

542
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: they might have like the rookie of the year here

543
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: and Tyler Herro has caught fire in preseason so far,

544
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: can't miss a three, and he's got the swag and

545
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: everybody's talking up him. So yeah, the Heater an interesting team.

546
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 3: I've seen people talk themselves into the Heat being a

547
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: top four team in the East and others, you know,

548
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: thinking that they're maybe just in the playoff race and

549
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: so on. But I actually like that, as you're right,

550
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: make or break is maybe the wrong term for it,

551
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 3: but a lot of pressure because Jimmy asked for this

552
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: and now he's got it.

553
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're getting peak Jimmy. I mean he's on

554
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 4: the other side of thirty.

555
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: Now.

556
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 4: It's a little make or break to me because he's yeah,

557
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 4: exactly exactly as he gets into his further into his contract,

558
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: He's not going to be a healthier Jimmy. That's highly unlikely.

559
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 4: That's why you got to go get Chris Paul. I

560
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: think just go all in, Chips, all in right now,

561
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 4: because I don't know. You mentioned those guys Skeets, not

562
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: the sexy. The second name you said is Dion Waiters.

563
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Speaker 1: You know I was and I was thinking you were

564
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: going to go on Linox too. I was like, that's reaching.

565
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: It's it's a hot pick right now, but I'm not

566
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 4: totally buying it.

567
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well who you got for a player entering

568
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: a maker break season?

569
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Then?

570
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 4: Test I got Reggie Jackson mere days ago. He was

571
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: railing on gian Carlos Stanton for not playing in a

572
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: lot of games this year. That's the old Reggie Jackson

573
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: who did that.

574
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: People forget about.

575
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: I had to mention the other Red Jackson because people

576
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 4: forget about this Reggie Jackson. I remember in twenty fourteen, Skeets,

577
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 4: you were mentioning or you commented on the contract that

578
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: he got five years, eighty million dollars when we were

579
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: too afraid to say anything on TV. Kidding you said it.

580
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 4: You said it there, you said, I don't know how

581
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: the Pistons are paying him five for eighty coming off

582
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Speaker 4: what he was in Oklahoma City, backing up Russell Westbrook,

583
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: not getting along with a lot of the guys in

584
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: the locker room there, and it hasn't paid off. You

585
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: look at his numbers in there. Fine actually you know,

586
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: he's twenty nine years old, but this is his final

587
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: year of his contract. So to me, if he doesn't

588
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 4: have a big year and he really has to step

589
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: out of what he's done in previous years and be

590
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 4: really good, and that's going to be very very hard

591
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Speaker 4: for him, especially with Derek Rose there now taking a

592
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: lot of his shots. I don't know what a team

593
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 4: gives him next year. It's going to be a backup

594
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 4: role unless things changed drastically, because everybody's got a starting

595
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 4: point up, starting point guard, I should say out there.

596
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 6: That's kind of what the Pistons did anyway, isn't it.

597
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 6: They needed a point guard, so they lavished that big

598
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 6: contract on him. You know, he might find another situation

599
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: like that where a team's kind of just desperate, probably

600
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Speaker 6: not to that extent.

601
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Speaker 4: There'll be thirty at that he was Also he was playing.

602
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 6: Well off the bench where you thought maybe he you know,

603
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 6: let's see how he goes into starting role, but he's

604
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 6: clearly not been able to live up to it quite

605
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 6: to the level that we thought he was capable of.

606
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Speaker 4: It was definitely a reputation.

607
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we've got Reggie Jackson at two point

609
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: zero in Terry Roziero with Charlotte. Yeah, it's amazing. It's

610
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Speaker 3: it's basically the exact same thing. That's a that's a

611
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: good one. Can we with this question, can we still

612
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Speaker 3: say Andrew Wiggins or have we.

613
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 4: Moved on from Yeah, think we moved We've.

614
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: Probably moved on from that. Yeah, it's a it's sad,

615
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: it's already broke. Yeah, I mean yeah, maybe maybe. I

616
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: mean I think, you know what, actually until he probably

617
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: until he finds another spot like lands with another team,

618
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: is moved or whatever. Yeah, I think that is the

619
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: case in Minnesota just sort of feels that way, which

620
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: is it's funny to think, like two or three years

621
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: ago he was averaging like twenty four points per game,

622
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: but last year was abysmal. I mean, he shot forty

623
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: one percent from the floor, thirty four percent from three,

624
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: seventy percent from the line, didn't improve at all. Defensively,

625
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: he looks lost half the time out there. You don't

626
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: even know he's out there half the time. Yeah, okay,

627
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: so we won't say Wiggans will just move on from him.

628
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: I can't say anything living being here in Canada as

629
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: well about Andrew Wiggins, can't say anything bad. I'm gonna

630
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: go I'm actually gonna go with a guy only entering

631
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: his third season, so maybe it's a little premature, doesn't

632
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: turn twenty two until February, but I'm gonna go Malik

633
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 3: Monk as a bit of a make or break season

634
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: for him, because this guy was he was lights outing

635
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: at Kentucky the one year he was like twenty points

636
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: per game, shot well from deep. And in the two

637
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: seasons in the NBA he's he struggled. He struggle from

638
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: the floor, he struggled from three. Now he hasn't he

639
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: hasn't really been given like consistent minutes. But that's a

640
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: bit on him. I think it's not like he was

641
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: playing for a team that I had so much talent

642
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: there in Charlotte that he just like couldn't get on

643
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: the floor. So there's obviously a reason, and that's because

644
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: I think he's one of the team's worst defenders. So

645
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: if you're struggling to have confidence in him with his

646
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 3: shot because he's streaky at times and it's not falling,

647
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: then you can't even rely on like, well that's all right,

648
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: get out there and play some defense, because he doesn't

649
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: really do that. But he's gonna get a chance here.

650
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Speaker 3: I think in Charlotte now they're starved for scoring options

651
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Speaker 3: with kem believing. Yes they have Terry Rozier, Reggie Jackson

652
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Speaker 3: two point zero, but Lague Monk is gonna get a chance,

653
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Speaker 3: and I just want to see if he can. I

654
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: get it's similar to Xim in a little bit way

655
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Speaker 3: as a younger guy, like here you go, let's see

656
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Speaker 3: what type of player you are. Obviously he's a small

657
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: guard and he's not a point guard. He's a shooter,

658
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: but he hasn't really been able to shoot so for

659
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Speaker 3: the NBA. So maybe he puts it all together this year.

660
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Speaker 3: I think the Hornets have until the end of the

661
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Speaker 3: month too to pick up his to decide at least

662
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Speaker 3: whether to pick up his fourth year. I think something

663
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Speaker 3: like five point three million dollar options so on his contract,

664
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Speaker 3: So we will see Malik Monk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be a little bit more Dwayne

666
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Speaker 1: Bacon buzz coming out of Charlotte. Bacon is sizzling. You

667
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Speaker 1: don't like to hear that from the Malik Monks standpoint.

668
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: But if we're talking two point zhers, this guy is

669
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Speaker 1: j R. Smith. To just let it fly. You gotta

670
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: make some of them, You gotta get some highlight dunks.

671
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Speaker 1: But that's the path here. You're gonna be a six

672
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Speaker 1: man who fills it up from time to time. Maybe

673
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Speaker 1: I set the record for most miss threes in a game.

674
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Speaker 3: Right Hey, look, j R. Smith made himself a fine NBA.

675
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: Some monks still has time and like I said, very young,

676
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: only third year, and he's gonna be given an opportunity.

677
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Speaker 3: You should be at least here in Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: All right?

679
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Speaker 3: Our next question. I love this question. I don't know why.

680
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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite questions every season preview. Who

681
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Speaker 3: makes their first NBA All Star Game? Who makes their

682
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Speaker 3: first NBA All Star Game? Who wants to take this

683
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Speaker 3: one first?

684
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Speaker 1: I got one for you. Zion Williamson is a lock

685
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Speaker 1: to start. I have that All Star game.

686
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Speaker 3: I have that written debth Okay, a lock. You don't

687
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 3: think we could have to Luka Doncic because he got

688
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Speaker 3: all the player the fan votes.

689
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Speaker 1: Zion Williamson has four point four million Instagram followers. The

690
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: guy's been famous for three years already. Maybe Donchach had

691
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Speaker 1: a more storied international career where he was dominating in Spain,

692
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Speaker 1: but he was not on the cover of Slam magazine

693
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Speaker 1: when he was sixteen years old. People have been ready

694
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Speaker 1: and waiting to see Zion Williamson play in the NBA.

695
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Speaker 1: Lee Alis went down to the Phillips State Farm Marena

696
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Speaker 1: Fortress to see Zion's first preseason game. He thought he

697
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: saw Zion's first NBA dunk. I saw it was in

698
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Speaker 1: warm ups. Lee. A guy doing way up lines is

699
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Speaker 1: not a first NBA dunk. But people are excited to

700
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Speaker 1: see Zion. He's gonna be a highlight machine. He's gonna

701
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Speaker 1: be good the Pelicans. Perhaps they catch the people off

702
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Speaker 1: guard early in the season and have a better record

703
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Speaker 1: heading into the All Star break than we're expecting. I

704
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Speaker 1: think he's in there.

705
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Speaker 6: I have him down on mine as a Zion question, Mike,

706
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Speaker 6: I don't think he can start because I just don't

707
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Speaker 6: think now that the way they've changed the voting process,

708
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Speaker 6: I just think he won't get that starting not because

709
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Speaker 6: it's only fifty percent of fe vote. And then you've

710
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Speaker 6: got the players and media after that, and I think

711
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Speaker 6: the players will say we respect him, but he's not

712
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Speaker 6: going to start over a guy who's been around forever.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he's the leading scorer for a playoff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look, if he's a leading scorer, then it's

715
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Speaker 6: in play.

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Speaker 2: For sure, it's in play.

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Speaker 4: I must I must correct you here though. Tree Luka

718
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: Doncic was on the cover of gold Bert, which is

719
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Speaker 4: slam in Spanish gold beer.

720
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Speaker 6: But talking about leading leading the league in scoring, I

721
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Speaker 6: think this guy has a shot to do it this season.

722
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Speaker 6: Chicago boy well plays for Chicago Zach Levine. Yeah, I think.

723
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Speaker 6: I think he's a real chance to lead the league

724
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Speaker 6: in scoring this year, the game being in Chicago.

725
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Speaker 2: Zach is one of those guys. He lights it up.

726
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Speaker 6: He's been improving his shot too. He's not just a dunker.

727
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Speaker 6: He's out there getting buckets. He's clearly going to be

728
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Speaker 6: the Bulls first option. I think on offense he has

729
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Speaker 6: a real chance to make this game. I think he'll

730
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Speaker 6: stand out on the Bulls if they improve. Yeah, I

731
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Speaker 6: mean if he's leading the league in scoring, then then

732
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Speaker 6: he won't start in my opinion, But I think he'll

733
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Speaker 6: get their respect. I think people have liked the way

734
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Speaker 6: that he bounced back from an injury he got traded.

735
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Speaker 6: He was a star player early, you know, won of

736
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Speaker 6: the Dunk Contents, but was regarded as just a flashy guy.

737
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Speaker 2: But there's a lot more source with his game.

738
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and there is, Like when you look at

739
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: the East All Stars from last season, you definitely can

740
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Speaker 3: see an opening at the guard position for a guy

741
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: like Zach Lavine, mainly because Oladipo is going to be

742
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Speaker 3: out still for a good chunk of the season, so

743
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Speaker 3: he's not going to be an All Star and he

744
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: was replaced last year by the Angel Russell who's now

745
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: moved to the West. And like you got an even

746
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Speaker 3: Kyle Lowry, is he going to be an All Star

747
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: again or is that sort of run done? So yeah,

748
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: there there to me seems to be an open guard

749
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: spot in the East, and a guy like Zach Levine

750
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 3: makes sense. If the Bulls, and we've talked about them

751
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: in the first couple of previews, if they if they

752
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: surprise some people and actually have a decent record and

753
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby's dad's all pumped up. Then, Yeah, Zach Lavin's

754
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: in there. I've got him written down as well.

755
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Speaker 4: Yeah. In that family of bubble teams in the Eastern

756
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: Conference that have great guards, I think Trey Young has

757
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: a good possibility of doing the exact same thing as

758
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Speaker 4: Zach Lavine. If one of those teams is in the playoffs,

759
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: their best player, their best guard, one of those two

760
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: guys can be in there. And I do believe in

761
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 4: the Hawks somewhat. You know there's they're gonna be bad defensively,

762
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: but they're gonna put points on the board with Trey

763
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Speaker 4: Young playing along Kevin Hurder, that beautiful shot, John Collins

764
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 4: and a nice little yeah and he plays defense. But

765
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 4: they're bad on both ends last year. So it's going

766
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: to be hard for them to really improve and get wins.

767
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: But I think they are going to surprise some people.

768
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: And I think at the end of the day, when

769
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: we look at that trade for Luka Doncic, it basically

770
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: was Trey Young and Cam Reddish that came the other direction.

771
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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a goal pay, a

772
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Speaker 4: slam dunk win for the Atlanta Hawks. Slam Dock's too

773
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Speaker 4: strong a word with Luca Dodgers because he's a great player.

774
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: But I believe in cam Reddish to some degree, it

775
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: was great.

776
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: I think Luca could make it too in his for

777
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: his really first year. I know he was in play

778
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: last year but didn't ultimately make the team. But especially

779
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 3: because again looking at the landscape there Durant, so he

780
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: goes east, but Kawhi is now in LA so that

781
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: basically that's a wash. So there's the forward spot. Kawhi

782
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: is going to take Durance, but Klay Thompson is out

783
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: for the season or at the very least he's going

784
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: to be of course until February's not gonna be playing

785
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: in the All Star Game. So there's an open guard

786
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Speaker 3: spot in the West there too.

787
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Speaker 4: And I think isn't that Donovan Mitchell spot his first

788
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: time as an All Star? I feel like, yeah, he

789
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: would get their first the first member of a jazz

790
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: right or is it Rudy Gobert.

791
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean Rudy might have that. You know last

792
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 6: year he feels sad for yeah, like he's like and

793
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 6: he's two time defensive player at you like he's got

794
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: the respect. It's like maybe it's Rudy's ten.

795
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Speaker 4: But Donald's going to be their leading scorer. He still

796
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: was a great score in the regular season last year,

797
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: not in the postseason. I think it's Dono's to lose.

798
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Speaker 3: But again, if the if the MAVs are solid though,

799
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: like Luka, Doncis is going to get the fan vote. Now,

800
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna get millions more votes than than Mitchell or

801
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert. He's just yeah, he's already proven that he

802
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: is is the cover boy exactly so.

803
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 4: But the coaches, the coaches are going to say the Jazz,

804
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: if the Jazz are in the three, four or five

805
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 4: six seed even they're going to be higher than the

806
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: MAVs in the standings.

807
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you would expect them to get at least one.

808
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: And maybe it's split somewhat with Rudy Gobert. Maybe that's

809
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 4: a problem for them.

810
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Speaker 3: It's possible Conley maybe taking in series some votes from Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Ye, unfortunately that that ship sid out for Mike Conley.

812
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Speaker 3: I've got what I've got one more there, that's weird one. Yeah,

813
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: what about Pascal Siakam in the East?

814
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

815
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Speaker 3: Why, I mean, if the Raptors are a top team,

816
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Speaker 3: like you're you're saying, like sort of similar with the

817
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 3: Jazz task. If they're one of the top teams still

818
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 3: in the in the Eastern Conference, as the defending champs

819
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Speaker 3: and everything, are they not going to get like a

820
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Speaker 3: representative And wouldn't it likely be Pascal Siakam, who was

821
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: in the running even last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, himber Lowry.

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Speaker 3: I guess I sort of think Lowry's I oddly think

824
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: he's sort of done being an All Star.

825
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Speaker 1: You don't think he'll continue to get that Joe Johnson

826
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: sign of respect. Once you're an All Star, always an

827
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Speaker 1: All Star. That's the question that will be his case.

828
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Speaker 1: If they're a decent team and he's showing off his

829
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Speaker 1: leadership and his numbers are approaching more what they have

830
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Speaker 1: been in his All Star seasons, I could see him

831
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Speaker 1: getting the respect vote. But like you're saying, Skeets, if

832
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Speaker 1: Siakam's leading the team in scoring and he looks like

833
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: a first option, he could get some votes.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Lowry started off last season really hot too, so

835
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 6: if he starts off again this season, then you know,

836
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 6: obviously you want to catch people's attention eally on that helps.

837
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Speaker 4: I think he still looked at as the most important Raptor.

838
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Lowry De Rozan scenario. But yeah,

839
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: who knows. What about an Aaron Gordon and Aaron Gordon

840
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Speaker 4: with the Magic. I think there's he'd probably be their

841
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: highest score. They could definitely be in that team. That's

842
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: a team that everyone's overlooking. They took a game off

843
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: the NBA champion Toronto Raptors last year in the playoffs.

844
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Speaker 1: Inspired then the victory. Some would say taking that game one.

845
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Speaker 4: I would say that game one of round one, and

846
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Speaker 4: I think that's a playoff team. They're definitely knocking on

847
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: the door. There's somebody from that family of Hawks, Bulls, Magic, Tzards, Piston's.

848
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Speaker 6: Well, Gordon's another one who s thoughts the year actually

849
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 6: pretty well too easily. He's hitting forty six from three

850
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Speaker 6: in the first month or two.

851
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like Vovich made it last year for the Magic, right,

852
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: so he was he was sort of looked at it

853
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: the guy and rightfully so, as you know, especially last

854
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: year as the better player on the Magic. So yeah,

855
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: but that's a good that's a good one.

856
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: If Marcus Marcus sol squashed his All Star yes, I

857
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Speaker 4: think yeah, posts limiting him to what eleven points.

858
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: You think is gonna be just a one time All Star? Yes,

859
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: it's definitely possible. Yeah, I forgot.

860
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Speaker 2: I went from island to invade. OK.

861
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: Let's hear hear from you guys out there with that question.

862
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: That's always a fun one. Who's going to make their

863
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: first All Star Game?

864
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: Is it?

865
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: Zion? Is it Luca Pascal, Zach Lavine, Aaron Goran, on

866
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: and on and on. Let us know on Twitter hashtag

867
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: no dunks. Let's take a quick break here because we

868
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: did this on part two show. We asked Lee about

869
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: his summer story, his summer adventure, and we got a

870
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: great breakdown of a Billy Joel concert. Well, I thought

871
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: we could continue the fun and I know that's a

872
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: tough one to follow up, Trey, but do you have

873
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: any fun summer stories to share with it to share

874
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: with us, or something that you learned or something like that.

875
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the water this summer,

876
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: as I usually do. Took Seaball season on tour from

877
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Georgia to Illinois to Wisconsin to Florida, a four state

878
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: tour of seaballs. But the most fun I had on

879
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: the water was when I tried water skiing for the

880
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: first time in fifteen years. Okay, how yeah, yeah. Unlike

881
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: riding a bike, it's not one of those things that

882
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: you just remember how to do. Fifteen years ago, I

883
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: was terrible at water skiing, could barely stay on my feet.

884
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: Fifteen years later, the same thing. My wife videotaped every

885
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: single one of my attempts. Twenty five times I tried

886
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: to get up on my feet. The total amount of

887
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: footage was two minutes in twenty three seconds.

888
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 5: It's a great super cut I saw.

889
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: H goodness.

890
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: I laughed all the way through.

891
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: It as I was trying to get up on my feet.

892
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I know, maybe time number five, I was like, I'm

893
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: not sure this is gonna happen, but I'm going to

894
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: keep trying because it's going to turn into a great video.

895
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: Be falling all of these times. Oh my goodness. It's

896
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: like I think, after all was said and done, twenty

897
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: five times, I was probably on my feet for fifteen

898
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: seconds of it total, and it was like I would

899
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: finally get up and then have no idea what to

900
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: do because I've never really stood up on water skis.

901
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do? Everybody has tips for

902
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do to stand up after that,

903
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: supposedly you're supposed to be able to stay on your feet.

904
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Didn't really happen for me, But then the walking the

905
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: next couple of days, It's just impossible. I was like,

906
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was out there on the water.

907
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I know I'm falling all the time,

908
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: but I'm still doing it. I'm out here, I'm really

909
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: pushing myself. My body's working. I can't believe it's showing

910
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: up for me here. The next day, not so much

911
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: the case. I'm popping ivy profen like crazy, just laying

912
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: on the couch soar from my inner knee all the

913
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: way up to my inner thigh. We're talking no dinks,

914
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: for sure. I was struggling. But I can't wait to

915
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: get back out there next summer because I'm sure I'll

916
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: be good at it.

917
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: I have tried like wakeboarding recently down there in Georgia

918
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: on one of the lakes. I can't do it at all.

919
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: And I hear you like the pain is just unbelievable. Also,

920
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: the pain just in like your like wrists and your

921
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: arms is just on fire. The next day and I

922
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: think there is like, there's nothing like more depressing or

923
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess that's the best word for it.

924
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: Then those sixty to ninety seconds where you have tried

925
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: to get up on your skis or your wakeboard and

926
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: then you've completely failed and then the boat has to

927
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: come and get you, like circle back around.

928
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're all talking about you. Oh, I know,

929
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: like you think he's done, he's probably done, he looks tight,

930
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: he looks terrible, and.

931
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: You're just sitting there bombing in the water like and

932
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: somebody's yelling like crappy instructions for what you should do.

933
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: And then somebody like counters that with you're overthinking it.

934
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Just just you're overthinking it. You'll just pop up.

935
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: Don't think about it. Oh, I hate it.

936
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: Let the boat do the pulling. Yes, stay underneath the rope.

937
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

938
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: I was like, where were all of these water skiing

939
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: experts the previous thirty five years of my life? Not

940
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: anybody out here doing the Tommy Bartlett water Show jumping

941
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: over ski slopes. But suddenly as soon as I fall

942
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: down twenty five times, they're like, well, here's what you

943
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: should have done. The best compliment I got was from

944
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Dan the man driving the boat. He's like, you know,

945
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed you tried so many times. Most people

946
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: fall like that, they don't go for as long as

947
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: you do. Thanks Dan, I'll fall more next time.

948
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: Great summer story from But you are going to get

949
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: back out there? Is that what you're saying? You're gonna

950
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: give it a go again?

951
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been hitting the rowing machine every single

952
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: day since. Then, build up my traps. The boy doesn't

953
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: have a.

954
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: Lot of upper bodies strengthating as seeing a young kidl

955
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: just walking back onto the shore board in hand.

956
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that and my wife grew up on

957
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: a lake and she's always like, oh, I don't know

958
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be able to water ski. And she

959
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: gets up the first time and goes until she's tired

960
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: and bored. It's like, Okay, I guess I'm done. I'll

961
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: try it again next year and I'll be able to

962
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: do it immediately. Yeah, boy, frustrating.

963
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: Well a plus effort for forgiving it a go. That

964
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: is not easy, especially, I mean, yeah, you fall the

965
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 3: wrong way. You're breaking something at our age now here too,

966
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: twisting something. There's concrete, man, Yeah, there's concrete.

967
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: Horrid it is.

968
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I came off a jet ski once at high

969
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 6: speed and I had no helmet on it.

970
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: Does it really can knock you out?

971
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: Of course?

972
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 5: Yeah?

973
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 3: Okay, great story.

974
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 5: Have you ever seen somebody wearing a helmet on a

975
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 5: jet ski?

976
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: No, but I think we should.

977
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean.

978
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 5: I disagree necessarily, but.

979
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 6: I mean you were going at such high speed, like

980
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 6: anytime you go on that fast as you need to

981
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 6: protect your head.

982
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: But what did you do? Like, how did you go

983
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: flying off it?

984
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: Did you?

985
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 6: Like?

986
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Just no, I was showboating.

987
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 6: I waved to the to the people who were watching me,

988
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 6: and it was one of those ones. I was going

989
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: so fast that the jet ski does it like turns

990
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: back around. It was so far ahead of me though

991
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 6: by the time it came I was only like sixteen

992
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 6: as well. I was like, man, I just about killed myself. Yeah,

993
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 6: but you know, full of social media. So he said,

994
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 6: no one got the way in camera that.

995
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: That would have been great. All right, Well let's get

996
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: let's get back into our burning questions in the season preview.

997
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Here.

998
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: All right, another award based question, guys, coach of the year,

999
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: Who do you got for Coach of the year? Trey Kirby.

1000
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: Are you going Jim Boyling? You said he was gonna

1001
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: get some votes.

1002
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm going with my man, Jim Boyle, and you have

1003
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: a big time sweep Coach of the Year. No, I'm kidding,

1004
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's a tough call for me. I

1005
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: feel like Brett Brown is going to be both a

1006
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year candidate and a first coach fired candidate.

1007
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: It all depends on how the Sixers start the season

1008
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. Last year they started

1009
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: nine and seven and you started hearing almost immediately. Is

1010
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: Brett Brown the right guy to coach the clip the Sixers?

1011
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: He guided them through the process. He has a terrible

1012
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: career coaching record because he endured so many losses early

1013
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: in his career, to the point where people will now

1014
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: just look at his record and say, look at all

1015
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: these losses, he can't be a good coach. Is he

1016
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: really the guy that we want? He was perfect for

1017
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: the process when he got everybody to play hard. Is

1018
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: he the right guy to take the next step? Perhaps

1019
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: he is. I'm really confident in the Sixers. I'm feeling

1020
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: good about Joel Embiid. I think their starting lineup is

1021
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: going to be great, and I think they'll cobble together

1022
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: a bench. Surely they'll get buyout guys down the line.

1023
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: So I'm confident in Brett Brown. But if things go poorly,

1024
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: if if it looks bad and they're not and they're

1025
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: not hot out of the start, you're gonna hear the

1026
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: buzz immedia.

1027
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: Those two things generally go hand in hand. Though, definite

1028
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 3: coach of the Year and being fired that we've seen

1029
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: that before, so that's that's an interesting pick.

1030
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: He's not Elton Brand's guy either, true, and that often

1031
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 6: counts against the coach. And even last season, remember when

1032
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 6: they were two went up on the Raptors Game four

1033
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 6: in Philadelphia, you know, to lose that series from there,

1034
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 6: Brett Brown was on the hot seat even then. He survived,

1035
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 6: but you do feel that the Sixers probably don't want

1036
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 6: to give him too much leeway this season if, as

1037
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 6: Trey's saying there, that they start off slowly and things

1038
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 6: don't click for them early.

1039
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: So you basically see though, because you believe in the Sixers,

1040
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: if he can, if you can weather the storm for

1041
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: the first month or so, and they go on to

1042
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: win or close to winning sixty games, and maybe the

1043
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: number one seed in the East, maybe even overall in

1044
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: the league. That will that will be enough to get

1045
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: the nd forever exactly.

1046
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I think the talent is good enough that even if

1047
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: the fit doesn't look perfect or the system doesn't look perfect,

1048
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: they can still make him look good by being an

1049
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: incredible team.

1050
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Okay, what about you guys.

1051
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 6: Well, I talked a little bit earlier about the Nuggets,

1052
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: who I think could win sixty games. So I'm going

1053
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 6: with Mike Malone for Coach of the Year. I think

1054
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 6: that tends to be what gets a coach coach of

1055
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 6: the year most wins. Yep. And he's been there. He's

1056
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 6: been on the hot seat too there in Denver, and

1057
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 6: last season they actually, you know, more or less met

1058
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 6: their expectations that they made the playoffs, had some success,

1059
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 6: nearly made it to the conference finals. I think the

1060
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: Nuggets know that Mike Malone is a good coach. We

1061
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 6: knew he was a good coach in Sacramento when he

1062
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: got a raw deal out there. He's now had a

1063
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 6: little bit of time, he's been able to overcome that

1064
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 6: first season or two there in Denver and showing that

1065
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 6: he's having success. So I think this is a really

1066
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: good opportunity for Denver to to cement the number one

1067
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 6: seed in the Western Conference. And if they do that,

1068
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 6: you know, maybe it's not sixty wins, maybe it's only

1069
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 6: fifty seven or fifty eight, but I think Mike Malone

1070
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 6: will get a lot of interest and a lot of

1071
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 6: buzz for that all.

1072
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's expectations now with the Nuggets, And I

1073
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: think you could also lump in the Jazz with Quinn Snyder.

1074
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: So if one of those two teams, be it the

1075
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: Nuggets or Jazz, like, if they have the number one

1076
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: seed in the West, I think you're right. I think

1077
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: I could see one of those guys ultimately winning the award.

1078
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you're sort of saying, there was Brett Brown.

1079
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 6: Let's say the Nuggets with those expectations do get off

1080
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 6: to a slow start and they're struggling, then he's immediately

1081
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: back on the hot seat as well because of the

1082
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 6: success they had last season. So, but I don't think

1083
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: that's going to be the case. I think you know,

1084
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: when you're returning a team and you've got a superstar player,

1085
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a huge clash of egos within

1086
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 6: that locker room right now. So I think the Nuggets

1087
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 6: were going to are going to be a good team,

1088
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 6: and I think he's going to be certainly in line

1089
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 6: for the award.

1090
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: Tass.

1091
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 4: You remember last season there was like a third of the

1092
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: league had coach candidate Coach of the Year.

1093
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot.

1094
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: It generally is, as you guys are saying, top of

1095
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 4: the standings type of an award. If you win fifty

1096
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: five sixty games, you're basically the front runner. I like

1097
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: a surprise one this year. Maybe we're going to change

1098
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: it up a little bit. Somebody who wins forty five

1099
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: to forty eight.

1100
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: You're going boiling.

1101
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to a friend of boiling. I'm going simmering.

1102
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 4: I'm going Lloyd Pierce. Oh, okay, Lloyd Pierce, a guy

1103
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: who many people don't know he's an NBA head coach.

1104
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's the head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.

1105
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: But exactly the same thing as Jim Boylan. If they

1106
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: surprise and they get up there, and as I said,

1107
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: you know the forty five win range, you could win it,

1108
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: you know, like Sam Mitchell did with the Raptors.

1109
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the Hawks forty five wins.

1110
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: I know, it's crazy.

1111
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy that would be a great coach of the

1112
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: air case though, yes, you and.

1113
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: I are got to be about five U tass.

1114
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: You and I are on the exact same wavelength with

1115
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 3: this one. I think this is going to be one

1116
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 3: of those Coach of the Year type of years where

1117
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: it's not one of the best teams for whatever reason,

1118
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: because and I think the parody in the NBA, at

1119
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: least what appears to be the parody in the NBA

1120
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: between the top teams sort of helps that chances of

1121
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: maybe it not going to them because you're like, oh,

1122
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: he's got one or two more wins, you know, like

1123
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: in the case of a Brett Brown or in the

1124
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: case of a Quinn Hunder. It's like it's like, unless

1125
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: somebody really separates themself from that sort of upper echelon pack,

1126
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 3: then I don't think maybe the one of the better

1127
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 3: teams will win it. The coach for the better teams.

1128
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: So I'm with you. I think we're getting a Sam

1129
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: Mitchell situation here, because that was the last time we

1130
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: had a Coach of the Year win under fifty games,

1131
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 3: that six oh seven season when Mitchell with the reps.

1132
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: He helped them, they won like twenty more games in

1133
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: the year prior, and you know, won the division that year.

1134
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: And we're the third season third seed in the East

1135
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: after having a crappy year the year before. So I

1136
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: think you're right with like a Lloyd Piers. I think

1137
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Jim Boyle in is a possibility if like, look if

1138
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: if the Bulls win forty five games and that's a

1139
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: twenty three win increase right there, So maybe it's in play.

1140
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 3: Elvin Gentry with the Pelicans something similar thirty three wins

1141
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: to let's say, like a you know, would have to

1142
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: be a forty six forty seven win season, or even

1143
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle with the Mavericks if they were like that

1144
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: from thirty three wins last year to a forty six

1145
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: or forty seven. I think you're right. I think it's

1146
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: gonna be a weird sort of wild card one where

1147
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: we maybe get not an upper echelon team the coach

1148
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: of an upper echelon team winning it this year. I

1149
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: think we might be a Mitchell, Sammy.

1150
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: Mitchell, I'm with you.

1151
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: Hey, quick trivia quiz, who is the Memphis Grizzlies coach?

1152
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh Man, I just read it. It's a very young man,

1153
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: very very young man, Taylor Jenkins.

1154
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 2: That's right. Yes, Wow came out of no way, didn't that?

1155
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: That one?

1156
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: Good trivial? Yeah, you said already Brett Brown Trey. Is

1157
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: there one anyone else that you guys have on the

1158
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: hot seat when it comes to coaching.

1159
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: I got the Sons Monty Williams, because the son's coach

1160
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: is always and watching them in the preseason. Sometimes DeAndre

1161
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: Ayton gets the ball, sometimes he doesn't. And I think

1162
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: that's basically the Sun's trajectory is DeAndre Ayten's his window,

1163
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: I mean his greatness level, really, and so if he

1164
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 4: doesn't get the ball, I could see Robert Sarver and

1165
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: the front office just being a little bit worried that

1166
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: DeAndre Aiden isn't being great if he doesn't touch the ball.

1167
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 4: I just I see a bit of an old school

1168
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 4: offense with Monty Williams where the Wings touch the ball

1169
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 4: a lot. I see Kelly Ubery touching the ball a lot,

1170
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 4: and that doesn't bode well. I don't think for his future,

1171
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: even though he just signed his contract four years only

1172
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: eleven million dollars reportedly, and that's not a ton of money.

1173
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: I think for the frugal Robert Sarver to cut if

1174
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: something like that happens. It would be crazy again to

1175
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: just fire a coach immediately after signing him. But it's

1176
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: the son, So who the heck knows?

1177
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: And Lee, you've already talked before about you think Mike D'Antoni. Yeah,

1178
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: it could be in a tough spot being a lame

1179
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: duck coach.

1180
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 6: He's clearly I don't think he'll be coaching the Ruckets

1181
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 6: after this season anyway. So whether or not they fire

1182
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 6: him during the season or let him play it out,

1183
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 6: I think that's that's going to be an issue. If

1184
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 6: the Rockets aren't doing well and they need an excuse, Bang,

1185
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 6: he's gone.

1186
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: Frank Vogel too, we talked about him, Jason Kidd breathing

1187
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: down his neck if they get off to a bad start.

1188
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: We've seen that with Lebron teams before. I actually two

1189
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: more just to throw out there, just because their teams

1190
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: are going a different direction now, Billy Donovan with the

1191
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: Thunder and maybe Scott Brooks with the Wizards, just just

1192
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: you know, refreshing it up and getting new blood in there.

1193
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: Maybe sort of a rebuilding type of coach. For both

1194
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: of those franchises. If that's the.

1195
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: Direction john Wall. Wasn't john Wall and Brooks fighting?

1196
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 6: I know john Wall's obviously out, but wasn't there the

1197
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 6: chaos there last year in Washington because things haven't gone

1198
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: that well.

1199
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: So maybe without john Wall.

1200
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: There, he gets a little bit more of a you know,

1201
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 6: a chance.

1202
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: Well, but now you have a new GM and Tommy

1203
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: Sheppard and she was going to try and get your

1204
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: own guy. And again, like there's such a they could

1205
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: be in such a situation where it's like maybe they

1206
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: I know they've talked about not wanting to deal them,

1207
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: but maybe they do trade Bill and try and get

1208
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: back young guys and picks and stuff like that, and

1209
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: then it's like completely blown up. And then maybe you

1210
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: just want to you know, you want like a Lloyd

1211
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: Pierce type of coach to sort of see that over.

1212
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: So I am a little excited for the Billy Donovan

1213
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: situation in Oklahoma City. I know it sounds crazy, but

1214
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: Billy Donovan, a college type coach, Yeah, wants to see

1215
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: the ball move it's happening.

1216
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna get a chance. You're right, I'm not saying

1217
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: like day one here, he's oh, my he's gonna get fired. No,

1218
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: you're you're right, he's gonna get a chance with without

1219
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 3: stars now to sort of not that there's talent there

1220
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: of course still, but it is a different type of

1221
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 3: team without Westbrook. Definitely. All right, Our next one another award?

1222
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 3: Getting all the awards in here, who wins Defensive Player

1223
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: of the Year, And do you care?

1224
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 6: This is an interesting award because it's about defense. Yeah,

1225
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 6: it's a bad defense, but it's rare that like a

1226
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: dark horse can come and win this one. You know,

1227
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 6: you kind of you win it once, you win it twice,

1228
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 6: maybe three times. He's wanted a couple of times, trying

1229
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 6: on Kawhi, But I'm going to go with a guy

1230
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 6: who I think because his team is going to be

1231
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 6: in the spotlight all season long and he's clearly going

1232
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 6: to be a guy who's going to get a job

1233
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 6: doing defense, playing defense. I wonder if Patrick Beverly can

1234
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: do it. I just wonder if he can do it.

1235
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 6: He's a great defender, He's a tenacious defender. We haven't

1236
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 6: had a guards tend to not win this award, but

1237
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 6: the Clippers defense now, they've got a lot of great defenders,

1238
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 6: you know, Obviously Kawhi and Paul George great players like that,

1239
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 6: but I wonder if Pat will just be the you know,

1240
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 6: the teeth of that defense.

1241
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: That's that's tough to see, especially playing on a team

1242
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: with Kawi and Yeah, but listen, let's be honest.

1243
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 6: Kai, as great a defensives player he is, he's not

1244
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: the same locked in as he was, true, but he

1245
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 6: won it, and I just this is what Patrick Beverly wants.

1246
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: He wants defensive players.

1247
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 6: Definitely wants this is the award that for him would

1248
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 6: mean more than anything else.

1249
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: You know, He's obviously not going to win a or

1250
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: anything like that.

1251
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: He's made two All Defensive teams. Yeah, yeah, but you're right,

1252
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: he's talked about wanting this for sure.

1253
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 6: And the Clippers defense should be top two of three

1254
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 6: in the league.

1255
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: They should question about it.

1256
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 6: And he's the guy who's going to be talking all

1257
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 6: season long. You know, he's he feels disrespected all the

1258
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 6: time because of the contribution he makes to the team.

1259
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 6: This this could be his chance to be able to say, man,

1260
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 6: that clipp Is defense starts with Patrick Beverley.

1261
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: Starts with mister ninety four feet. Yeah, starts up the

1262
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: ninety four foot Yeah.

1263
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Trey, let's say our answer together because

1264
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: I think we're on the same wavelength after preview one right,

1265
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: first name and last name together on one two three.

1266
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: L Yeah, Well to me when I look at it,

1267
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert probably still the favorite. He has won the

1268
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: bet the last two but I kind of think the

1269
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: Jazz defense is going to fall off this year. I

1270
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: think no j Crowder around, no Derek Favors around. Those

1271
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: guys are solid defensive players. So if the Jazz take

1272
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: a step back defensively, I think it kind of allows

1273
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: the voters to look other. If the Jazz aren't a

1274
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: behemoth on the defensive end, you're fine voting for somebody else.

1275
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: Voter fatigue is a real thing. People like to move on.

1276
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: People like something fresh. The starter's dead, no dunks, we're in.

1277
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: The name is good Todd. Yeah tough. Yeah, it's super tough.

1278
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: But you know, Anthony Davis is already getting the Lebron hype.

1279
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is gonna have to do almost everything for

1280
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers to be a solid defensive team. He as

1281
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: a rim protector really enables Danny Green and Avery Bradley

1282
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: to be aggressive on the perimeter defensively. And I think

1283
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: if you see Avery Bradley, KCP, Danny Green having good

1284
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: defensive years where they look energized, where they look like

1285
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: attack dogs defensively, A lot of that credit will go

1286
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: to Anthony Davis if he's able to make LA a

1287
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: top ten defensive team and you know, be in the

1288
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: top five blocks, get a whole bunch of rebounds. He's

1289
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: getting steals as well. He'll get a lot of He'll

1290
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: get a lot of votes.

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: That's a good one. I wonder how good those those

1292
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: perimeter defenders are going to be on the Lakers to

1293
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: just slow it down a little bit, and he's great

1294
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: at the five. Anthony Davis can be great when he

1295
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: wants to be. But I wonder what Javelle McGee back

1296
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: there for twenty minutes a game, how great they're going

1297
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 4: to be. I'm in the same credit boat as you, though.

1298
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 4: I think Joel embid is gonna get a lot of

1299
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 4: credit for the Sixers jumping up in the defensive rankings.

1300
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 4: They're middle of the pack team last year at fourteenth.

1301
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: Even though Joel Embiid proclaims that he should be Defensive

1302
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 4: Player of the Year. They're sort of average, but now

1303
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: you throw in Josh Richardson instead of JJ Reddick, Hello,

1304
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 4: and Al Horford in there instead of Jimmy Butler. Al

1305
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 4: Horford's a great defensive player. I think the credit for

1306
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: them going into a top five or top six defensive

1307
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: rating would be going to Joel Embiid, even though as

1308
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 4: I said on Monday Show, Al Horford never gets credit.

1309
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: They're just two stacked and then Ben Simmons is your

1310
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: point guard. They're just so good and so long. There's

1311
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 4: just a potential for Joel Embiid to have that at

1312
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: MVP slash Defensive Player of the Year season, which would

1313
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 4: be nuts, and it would be only the third pop

1314
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: quiz only the third guy to ever do it in

1315
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 4: NBA history. It's Jordan Jordan Olajuan way too easy pop quiz?

1316
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 4: How tall was Billy Donovan even five eleven?

1317
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 5: Bang on?

1318
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: Wow, he loves the random pop quiz.

1319
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1320
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: I think with both of your picks Anthony Davis and

1321
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: Jowell and b guys, you're gonna have to hope those

1322
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: teams are, you know, one of the better teams defensively

1323
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: in the league overall defensive rating because the last time

1324
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: we had a last time we had a player win

1325
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: this award from a team not even in the top

1326
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: ten in defensive rating was like Marcus Camby way back

1327
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: in that again, that six hosts seven season. What was

1328
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: going on that weird season when he won that when

1329
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: he won Defensive Player of the Year, when he was

1330
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: anchoring the Nuggets like twelve ranked defense. So and I

1331
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: think the Lakers and six Ers could be in the

1332
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: top ten defensively, should be almost I think in the

1333
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: top ten defensively if everybody stays healthy. So those are

1334
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: those are fair picks. Draymond Green is interesting to me,

1335
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: like from a narrative perspective of being the what feels

1336
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: like the lone guy defensively now on the Warriors, and

1337
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: if he can sort of keep them, you know, in

1338
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: the mix, obviously in terms of the win loss records,

1339
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: but also as a sort of a great still defensive team.

1340
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 3: I don't know how he wouldn't get a lot of votes.

1341
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: If it's Curry offensively and Draymond defensively, He's going to

1342
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: be right there. Giannis. He was runner up last year.

1343
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: He got like twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight first

1344
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: place votes, So you'd imagine the Bucks will still be

1345
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: good defensively. He's gonna warrant some some LoVa for the

1346
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. And I just saw this recently.

1347
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: It shocked me a little bit because I did forget

1348
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: how much of a rim protector he is, how many

1349
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: blocks he racks up, and he's talking about he was

1350
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: talking up the fact that he wants to win Defensive

1351
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: Player of the Year. Kristaps Porzingis says he wants that.

1352
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: He's like focusing on this. I guess you know, Anthony

1353
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: Davis has done something similar. So there's like those those

1354
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: to me, and you throw Beverly in there, Lee, but

1355
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: that's like the six big guys there eighty Dwell and Bid, Gobert, Green,

1356
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 3: Jannis and Porzingis and then you got Patrick Beverley. It's

1357
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: this one. I find it's always difficult. I mean, do

1358
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: you just play it safe and go well, who takes

1359
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: it away from Rudy gobert Man, Maybe that is the

1360
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: way to do it. But I think Draymond Green, if

1361
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: he is the Draymond Green from the playoffs and he

1362
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: plays like that from Game one to help his Warriors

1363
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: chances of not only making the playoffs, but getting a

1364
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: high seed. Wow, he'll have a strong case to win

1365
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: his second obviously, with the Rudy Gobert win in two

1366
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: in between them.

1367
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: How are they going to be a great defensive team

1368
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: without the wings that they lost? And that's my narrative perspective.

1369
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: You're right.

1370
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean you look at it and you go, how

1371
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: could they possibly still be that? And Klay Thompson, I've

1372
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: talked him up before, like he's such a great defender.

1373
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean we always talk about a shot and catching

1374
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: fire and being able to drop fifty and sixty in

1375
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: the blink of an eye. But he's such a strong

1376
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: defensive wing player and now he won't be there too. Yeah,

1377
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 3: but maybe Draymond is that good and can get these

1378
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: guys moving in the right spot and being that Kevin

1379
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: Garnett barking out orders and just flying around the court.

1380
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: You're right, unlikely, unlikely, but the narrative is there. If

1381
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: they shock people and are still one of the better

1382
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: defensive teams, he's going to get and deservedly sow probably

1383
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: all the credit for it.

1384
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 6: You just wonder as well about Miles Turner, who remember

1385
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 6: on L Show he wanted to win that award and

1386
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 6: he didn't even make all defensive teams last season, and yeah,

1387
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 6: he's a very good defender, and the Pacers always have

1388
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 6: a decent defense as well. So you wonder if he'll

1389
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 6: get a little bit more respect this season because he.

1390
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: Was kind of overlooked.

1391
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 6: I think largely because it's the paces and people are like, yeah,

1392
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 6: you know, we respect them, but we just don't really

1393
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 6: those guys don't stand out. So a guy like him

1394
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 6: is coming in this season with a real big chip

1395
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 6: on his shoulder to prove that he is one of

1396
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 6: the best defenders in the league.

1397
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: Officially, they will put me down. I'm with tre put

1398
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: me down for excuse me. I'm with task. I'm going

1399
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: to well and be for Defensive Player of the Year.

1400
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: I think that's all the case you guys made for

1401
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: him there at tas you made for him. Just he's

1402
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: going to get all. He's going to get a lot

1403
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: of the credit because the whole defense as a whole

1404
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: should be pretty Nate Marrish. So we'll see all right,

1405
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: our final one here, Part three, running with a fun

1406
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: one as we always do. Guys, who has the best

1407
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: new jersey in the NBA. There are so many throwbacks

1408
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: that we've seen being unveiled over the last couple of weeks,

1409
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 3: last couple of months. What's your favorite? What do you got?

1410
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 6: The Philadelphia seventy six is are going with a nineteen

1411
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 6: seventy seventy one classic jersey and it is sick.

1412
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty nice.

1413
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: Well it reminds you of childhood?

1414
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, not quite. I was still still a thought at

1415
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 6: that point. But it is a beautiful one. It's got

1416
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: seventy six is written in this real sexy font. Yep,

1417
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 6: great colors, Trey, look at this. This is great podcasting.

1418
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 6: So I'm showing you a photo.

1419
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 5: Look at that.

1420
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: Explain the photo, Explain the phone.

1421
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: All right. It's Joel Embiid holding his jersey in the

1422
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: nipple region, pulling out seventy six ers. It looks like

1423
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: a hand drawn font.

1424
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: Very old school, all right, cool, very very sexy. I

1425
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: like that.

1426
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you got to google these people. I know exactly

1427
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: which ones you're talking about. They are nice, they correct me.

1428
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm wrong though. They unveiled those like a long time

1429
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: ago too. They think they were going to wear them

1430
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: this season. And there was like the photo shoot with

1431
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons and Dwell and bed like on the car

1432
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.

1433
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the seventies car. Yeah it looks great, all right.

1434
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 6: You love the seventies man, your big seventies, the swinging seventies.

1435
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 6: I saw the other day in Atlanta, I saw someone

1436
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 6: driving a Jaguar with a un Canada a Jaguar, right,

1437
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 6: do you like? I've got a photo here right, and

1438
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: it had where it has Jaguar. They had made it

1439
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 6: to say Shaguar.

1440
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: Was it me? That was what? That was my car

1441
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: in high school? Mine was a Cutlass Supreme that had

1442
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: a license plate that sad Shaguar it was. You know,

1443
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: I was working my way up to affording the Union Jackuars,

1444
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: or maybe you drove my Asstin Powers.

1445
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 6: Whatever it is, I can't I couldn't believe it. I

1446
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,439
Speaker 6: got a photo I can't now.

1447
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 4: Scroll.

1448
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: It's your favorites.

1449
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 6: I updated my iOS last night. I can't do anything.

1450
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: You never want to do that. Never never update your

1451
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: eye if you're.

1452
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: Going to show your friends a picture the next day on.

1453
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: Here it is.

1454
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Look at this, okay, right, and.

1455
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: The loss is quit okay. It looks like an Austin Powers.

1456
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: It's a full Union Jet. It's a full Union Jack.

1457
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: That says, bumper to bumper.

1458
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: Where did you where did you see that lead? Just

1459
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 3: down the road from your house? Yeah, it was just

1460
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: driving down.

1461
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,479
Speaker 2: The Spring Street.

1462
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: Think it was getting more and more interesting.

1463
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't you miss don't you miss Spring Street?

1464
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: Miss Springs. Okay, so you're going with the Sixers?

1465
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: Those one way sexy? Yes. I I googled best New

1466
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 4: Jersey today. New Jersey is still a state. That's what

1467
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: came up. And it's so populated. I'm still in my

1468
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 4: NBA world, like I gotta throw in an NBA and there,

1469
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: and when I did, I did see those old Sixers ones,

1470
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: which I don't think are as good as the Sixers

1471
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: throwbacks of last year and the year before. They come

1472
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 4: out with great throwbacks every year, some great ones with

1473
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: the stars they do and beautiful jerseys because it screams

1474
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 4: America and so those ones are great. Unfortunately one that

1475
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 4: screams Canada in a bad way, or the Grizzlies throwbacks

1476
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: because they're going to the Vancouver Grizzlies jerseys and you know,

1477
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 4: it's it's not quite Seattle level of depression where they

1478
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: lost their their team, but they look great, you know,

1479
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 4: they they do look good unique. And I know you

1480
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 4: don't like Mike Baby, but Skeets, I think of Mike

1481
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: Baby when I see those Tea Ley greens, and yeah,

1482
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: so I like those. I can't deny it. I can't

1483
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: deny it.

1484
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 3: And they got the court too with the bear out there.

1485
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel right about throwing the court.

1486
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: I'm okay with jerseys, but you know, you know what

1487
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't a bit of a salt in the wound?

1488
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: Sure, you don't want it to look too much like

1489
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Vancouver there, right, I get you.

1490
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: Jerseys are fine, but anyways, those those do look great. Okay,

1491
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 4: those we're an all time.

1492
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: Great going with those. What about you, Trey.

1493
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: There's a cool Hawks peach jersey that has yet to

1494
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: be unveiled, black with peach. Stay on the lookout for

1495
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: that pretty cool look.

1496
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: Ooop scoop man.

1497
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: You know, you go to one Hawk's media day and

1498
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: things really change. I also like the new Pacers gold

1499
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: statement jersey they have. It looks a lot like an

1500
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: updated version on the of the Flow Joe jersey. I

1501
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: love when a team doesn't just go straight to their

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01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: past and take something from their past. They kind of

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: bring it into the future. It's kind of like what

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks did with their uniforms. It's like, here's something

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: we had in the seventies, but this is a two

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: thousands take right. I love that. And I've also I've

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: talked myself into the Brooklyn graffiti jersey.

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01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: Really yeah, not a fan.

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: I honestly I wasn't either, but I'm like, this is

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: something different. This is something that teams haven't actually tried.

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01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: You're not just pulling a jersey from the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 1: that everybody already likes. You're cool, check this out. We

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01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: still like it. This is something new. We haven't seen

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01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: teams with graffiti on their jerseys. They got a local

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01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: artists to do it. I think, you know, I like

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: the way that the Nets kind of stick to a

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01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: theme where they have what their jersey look like, what

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: their jerseys and their uniforms look like, and then they

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01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: kind of just edit that a little bit. You know,

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: like their Brooklyn jersey isn't super different than their notorious

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01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: big jersey. It's still a Brooklyn jersey and they just

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01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: had a different trim or it's still a Brooklyn jersey,

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: but now the font of the jersey is different. I

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01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: like the way it looks. I feel like it's the

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01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: kind of thing that in thirty years they'll bring back

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh man, that's so awesome. People

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think that at the time, but it'll pay

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01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: off down the line.

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: I've got a couple I'm gonna throw out you guys.

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: I thought Lee, I thought you were gonna go with

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01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: the calves going back to the mid nineteen nineties with

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: the black, orange and powder blue.

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: Look, you know, they proved that back like they wore like, uh,

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01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: they wore those a while ago, like Kyrie's maybe his

1535
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: rookie year and yeah, last year they had those light

1536
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: blue and white ones. There were a version of these.

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01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Skeets. I love these.

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01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know, like it's the like Mark Price

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: and like Terrell Yeah yeah, stuff like that John Hotrod

1540
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: Williams and stuff like that. So those are those are nice.

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 3: It's they're those more of like the opposite of what

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01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: you were saying, Trey with Brooklyn getting creative. It's just like, yeah,

1543
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: here are these jerseys. Remember fat Sean Kemp wearing these?

1544
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: Here they are but they are pretty cool. They are unique.

1545
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: I like the Kings. They're celebrating their thirty fifth anniversary,

1546
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: so they're doing like a classic you know, they're wearing

1547
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: like from ninety one to ninety four. It's just like

1548
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 3: that King script like word mark across the chest with

1549
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: that royal blue uniform. I think that just looks I

1550
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 3: think it looks awesome. But my pick just came out yesterday.

1551
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: It came out on Tuesday. The Clippers on the cover

1552
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 3: of SI unveiled their new City Edition uniforms and it's

1553
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: like grand Theft Auto San Andreas. I don't know how

1554
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 3: to describe them otherwise, but it's that text, just that

1555
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: La California text.

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 5: It looks like a biker Yeah.

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and it pops and it's pretty simple. Otherwise,

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01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: it's just white uniforms with a little bit of like

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: darker blue trim and that. And I think it's because,

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: like the Clippers have generally had some of the worst

1561
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 3: so maybe I'm influenced that way. But those are nice.

1562
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of actually, like I said, like

1563
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: there's a ton like the Hornets are doing the pin

1564
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: stripes again, yeah, on and on those. Yeah, because I

1565
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: guess one's Nike got in the mix. Right, they're like, oh,

1566
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna go crazy here.

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01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: You're getting something new every year. A couple of orange

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 1: jerseys in the mix. Okay, see he has an orange jersey,

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: Phoenix has an orange jersey. Both trash. Is anybody ever

1570
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: gonna have a good orange jersey? Your boy needs one?

1571
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you love orange, that's right.

1572
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 1: And every time an orange jersey comes home like, oh cool,

1573
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: this one might be the one. But like the Knicks

1574
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: had one that wasn't great. The Bobcats obviously years and

1575
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: years ago, wasn't great. We're still waiting for the first What.

1576
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: About these Caves ones. They got a little bit of orange,

1577
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 3: and they.

1578
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: Got a little orange, like a taste there. I want

1579
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: to pull out my rebox Sean Kemp threes and wear

1580
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: them look like a bone Thugs and Harmony video from

1581
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: the nineties. But that's the thing to me with the

1582
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: Brooklyn jersey is like when these Calves jerseys came out,

1583
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: when those nineties Caves jerseys came out, they were ugly.

1584
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 3: People hate it.

1585
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: And now it's like, bring them back, they're cool. Yeah,

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: So the Brooklyn it's ugly, it's ugly, it's a little

1587
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: bit ugly.

1588
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 4: It's too cartoony, and that's why I don't think it.

1589
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: Aren't you a Raptors fan, don't you love it when

1590
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: the Raptors bring back a scribbly pin stripe with a

1591
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: drawn on the.

1592
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: White.

1593
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was an error where teams made mistakes.

1594
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 4: Now you're just making a new mistake. I think happy mistake.

1595
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 4: They're called happy accidents.

1596
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: Watch them, Bob.

1597
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 4: Ross Doug, that's right. I think they should just match

1598
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 4: it with the office font on their court.

1599
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, sure?

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the Suns? You mentioned theirs?

1601
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 3: Are they not like the first jersey that's maybe not

1602
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 3: the first that's not going to have like their name

1603
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: be it their team name or.

1604
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: I think they might be the only one this season

1605
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: because I remember like the Bulls that stars across. But yeah,

1606
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: they definitely have less center logo right at the top.

1607
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: It's a did the Bucks have that? Though? I feel

1608
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: like the Bucks last season they had a black one

1609
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: that had the stripes across it. Nonetheless, it is a

1610
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: unique jersey that that sun's orange one that looks different.

1611
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: Right because it doesn't have the it doesn't have phoenix

1612
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 3: or suns on it, right, that's the whole thing. You're right.

1613
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 3: I guess the Spurs have had that too, right, and

1614
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: they just have the the logos. Yeah, just a little

1615
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: logo and Dover is sort of in the corner anyway.

1616
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: There's the orange on the Buffalo Braves jerseys from the Clippers.

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

1618
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: Let's hear from you guys. Jump on Twitter hashtag No

1619
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 3: Dunk's best new jersey. You can share the picture with us.

1620
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: Hopefully you can find it on your phone a little

1621
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: faster than a man. Leela's could there sweet at us.

1622
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: We want to see what you guys think.

1623
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 4: Maybe it is.

1624
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 3: Maybe it is those Bulls jerseys that we talked about

1625
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: going back to the Jordan pinstripe days. Let us know,

1626
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna call it there for part three

1627
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: of our NBA Season previews series. Got two more to

1628
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,719
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