WEBVTT - The Winter People, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, he wasn't a stuff to blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're back with part two of our discussion of

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<v Speaker 1>the Winter People, the way in which animal existence and

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<v Speaker 1>especially human existence is seasonally bifurcated, and the way the

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<v Speaker 1>seasons really warp in command who and what we are now.

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<v Speaker 1>Last time we talked about traditional cultural beliefs and practices

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<v Speaker 1>around wintertime. Uh so, we talked about the the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>winter ceremonials of the Quakakawak people of the Pacific Northwest

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<v Speaker 1>and North America. But we wanted to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>other cultural beliefs about wintertime changes to the human being. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of casting about for something that if

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<v Speaker 1>it felt felt appropriate to to bring up, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are no shortage of winter traditions. But we we lead

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<v Speaker 1>with such a fantastic example in the first episode, it

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<v Speaker 1>it felt intimidating to try and come up with something

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<v Speaker 1>of of equal weight. Now, one thing you could bring

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<v Speaker 1>up is, of course, the traditions like the Huga. This

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<v Speaker 1>became very popular, was it last year? The year before

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<v Speaker 1>there was suddenly all these articles on the internet about

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<v Speaker 1>uh huga and all these related concepts, especially in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh northern polar Uh not always polar, but northern types

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<v Speaker 1>of countries and cultures where they're they have special words

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<v Speaker 1>for getting cozy when it's really cold and bad weather outside. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting because I mean, obviously here in the

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<v Speaker 1>States people do like to to snug up and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>binge watch some Netflix or what have you. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a little hot coco during the uh the colder months.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something fulfilling about that. I hear they eat pumpkin pie.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about this the Americans? Like? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I didn't know there are songs about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume it's true. Which song? Which song is about eating

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<v Speaker 1>pumpkin There's something about you throw a log on the

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<v Speaker 1>fire and coffee and supkin pie. I'm vaguely connecting to

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<v Speaker 1>something from another life, all right, though. I just have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions for people who eat pumpkin pie

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<v Speaker 1>outside of established holidays. Yeah, which are the ones? Is

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving and when? Well, you can have it for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're I mean, you've kind of been in the rules, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but mostly it is a Thanksgiving pie. It's a delicious

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving pie, but it's I don't know, I wouldn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable eating it. Fill the time of the year. Filling

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<v Speaker 1>from a can, crust from a can, well, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to use the filling from the can because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, because the because because ultimately the pumpkin is

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<v Speaker 1>just a vehicle for the nutmeg and the spice flavoring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sugar. Yeah. But no, despite all the coziness traditions,

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<v Speaker 1>some cultures apparently have this special word for the coziness

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<v Speaker 1>seeking tradition, and other cultures don't really. I mean, English,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I know, doesn't have a word like hugo.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why it suddenly became so popular

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<v Speaker 1>in the English speaking part of the internet. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's important to realize that coziness do during

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<v Speaker 1>the winter months is is something of a luxury. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. This led me to seek out a possible

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<v Speaker 1>example in a wonderful book that I hadn't looked at

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<v Speaker 1>in many years, And that's very Lopez's book Arctic Dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>Imagination and Desire in a Northern Landscape, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>which is just full of beautiful descriptions of life in

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<v Speaker 1>the far North. For instance, he shares the following just

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<v Speaker 1>about the flow of seasons in general. Quote in summer,

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<v Speaker 1>in the sometimes extravagant light of a July day, one's

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are not of growth of heading wheat and yellowing peaches,

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<v Speaker 1>but of suspension, as if life had escaped the bounds

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<v Speaker 1>of earth in this country, which lacks the prolonged moderations

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<v Speaker 1>between winter and summer that we anticipate as balmy April

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<v Speaker 1>mornings and dry Indian summer afternoons. In this two season country,

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<v Speaker 1>things grow and die, as they do everywhere, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are more deeply than living things anywhere else, seasonal creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes on later in the book to to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up this concept of the Polar Eskimo people that

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<v Speaker 1>is called purlar or neck. He says, quote winter darkness

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<v Speaker 1>brings on the extreme winter depression the Polar Eskimo called

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<v Speaker 1>plura neck. According to the anthropologist Gene Mallari, the word

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<v Speaker 1>means to feel quote the weight of life, to look

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to all that must be accomplished, and to retreat

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<v Speaker 1>to the present, feeling defeated, weary before starting a core

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<v Speaker 1>of anger and miserable sadness. It is to be sick

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<v Speaker 1>of life, a man named Amina told Malari. The victim

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<v Speaker 1>tears fitfully at his clothes. A woman begins aimlessly slashing

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<v Speaker 1>at things in the igloo with their knife. A person

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<v Speaker 1>runs half naked into the bitter, freezing night, screaming out

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<v Speaker 1>at the village, eating the poop of dogs. Eventually the

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<v Speaker 1>person is calmed by others in the family with great

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<v Speaker 1>compassion and helped to sleep parlora neck winter. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say he did not say poop. He used

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<v Speaker 1>a stronger curse word that we can't say on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But I felt compelled to self at it there. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as Lopez describes it, does it seem like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that sort of the farther you go up north

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess towards either of the poles, but especially

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<v Speaker 1>because you know they're more people are more concentrated towards

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<v Speaker 1>the North Pole than in like Antarctica, that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of the seasons becomes more unbearable. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be the point he's he's making here,

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<v Speaker 1>And it just has to do with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you essentially have two seasons, one of life and one

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<v Speaker 1>of death, one of one of hardship and one of well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess less hardship. Uh it's it's certainly an impressive

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<v Speaker 1>concept and uh it again brings to mind accounts of

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<v Speaker 1>say that the alleged wind to go madness that you

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<v Speaker 1>uh you hear about in uh in a northern native populations. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to point out here that not everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>on board with this being a rough part of pre

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<v Speaker 1>colonial traditions and beliefs among Native peoples of North America. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Canadian scholar who uh and scholar who specializes

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<v Speaker 1>in the study of First Nations people, John Steckley, in

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<v Speaker 1>his book White Lies about the Inuit, he says this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Arctic hysteria is backed up by case studies,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was most frequently touted in the nineteen sixties

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<v Speaker 1>through the eighties by anthropologists such as Jeane Malari and others.

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<v Speaker 1>And he points out that historian Lyle Dick suspects, just

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<v Speaker 1>as Stickley himself concurs, that it's quote more likely the

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<v Speaker 1>creature of the White Inuit power imbalance embodied in specific

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<v Speaker 1>contexts unquote, such as forced risky explorations during the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>So forcing the native peoples to, among other things, take

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<v Speaker 1>you out into hostile winter conditions when their their normal

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<v Speaker 1>pattern of behaviors would have limited such risky measures. That

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense to me, And it has also been suggested

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<v Speaker 1>that there's at that possible physical explanations for this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Arctic madness can be found in hyper vitaminosis ah,

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<v Speaker 1>such as when you consume a polar bear liver exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can and it's something you can also pick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's most famous for the polar bear liver. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it before in the show as far as polar

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<v Speaker 1>bear liver consumption is concerned, but you can also get

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<v Speaker 1>it from consuming a number of different um uh hunted

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<v Speaker 1>animals in these regions, So that's one possibility as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the take home here is that as

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating as the concept is, and certainly as beautifully as

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez wrote about it uh in in Arctic Dreams, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it may be a situation that is is

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat complicated by the impact of colonial Western society upon

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<v Speaker 1>the traditions of the native people's well. It certainly illustrates

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<v Speaker 1>the way in which our reactions to the seasons are

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<v Speaker 1>both sort of endogenous and exogenous, like that they come

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<v Speaker 1>from both inherent factors in in the climate and in uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, physical constraints around us that arrive when the

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<v Speaker 1>winter months set in, but they're also heavily tempered by

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<v Speaker 1>what cultural pressures were having to deal with. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>a society of abundance is probably gonna have very different

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<v Speaker 1>cultural ways of dealing with winter than a society of

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<v Speaker 1>scarcity would, and all kinds of cultural factors like that

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<v Speaker 1>would play in. Certainly. Of course, if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being colonized, that's definitely going to affect what a season

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<v Speaker 1>of hardship means for you. Indeed, all right, well we

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<v Speaker 1>need to take a quick break, and then when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back we will talk more about winter changes in

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<v Speaker 1>winter adaptations. All right, we're back, Okay, So Robert, we

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<v Speaker 1>have discussed how we are not constant beings but sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like seasonal shape shifters. There are so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>that culturally, uh that psychologically, that stabolically our bodies respond

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<v Speaker 1>to the changes in the seasons in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>it might be hard to beat out of us. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though we've got all these nice climate controlled indoor places

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<v Speaker 1>to dwell. Now, our bodies are surfing the cycles of time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there is one way in which the changes of the

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<v Speaker 1>seasons affect us much more directly and immediately, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>by being cold. Apart from, you know, the vitamin D

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<v Speaker 1>deficiency you might get from shorter days, and the way

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<v Speaker 1>it might affect the way you eat and and affect

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<v Speaker 1>your your metabolism and even affect your behavior and your

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<v Speaker 1>dating and your desire for meaning and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it also is just freezing outside. Now. It's no secret

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<v Speaker 1>that exposure to cold can hurt or kill you. But

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever wonder why they're Like several ways you

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<v Speaker 1>can answer this question. One is pretty straightforward and mechanical.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that the body has mostly liquid content. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to think of that this sometimes, like whenever you're feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit down on yourself, you just think like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bag of fluids doing okay for a bag

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<v Speaker 1>of fluids. Yeah, And if you if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>freeze me solid, then a single Jean Claude van Damn

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<v Speaker 1>kick could shatter you. And well, in fact, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to freeze me solid, just the act of freezing

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<v Speaker 1>me solid would sort of shatter me because when liquid freezes,

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<v Speaker 1>it can form ice crystals, which cause damage to the

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<v Speaker 1>body's tissues, to the cells, to the cell membranes. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's another way to think about it. Animal life is

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<v Speaker 1>characterized by two main physical characteristics i'd say motion and

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<v Speaker 1>chemical reactions, and cold slows down both of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>so cooks out there. I wonder if you ever tried to,

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<v Speaker 1>like mash up some spinach art to choke dip with

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<v Speaker 1>a cold block of cream cheese, Robert, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any comparable experience? Uh No, I do not. It's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're just like work in your arm, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotta you gotta be some kind of like hydraulic

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<v Speaker 1>press type creature in order to achieve it. A similar

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<v Speaker 1>thing would be if you're into baking and you ever

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<v Speaker 1>tried to like whip something with cold butter, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bad idea. And likewise, if if you've ever tried

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<v Speaker 1>to trigger a chemical reaction like lighting a fire when

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<v Speaker 1>it's freezing cold outside, not so easy. The body needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be warm, so it's mechanical motions are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lubricated and squishy, and it also needs to be warm.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's chemical reactions have enough energy to take place.

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<v Speaker 1>But not all bodies are like this. There are creatures

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<v Speaker 1>in this world that can literally freeze almost entirely solid

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<v Speaker 1>and thaw out and survive. So I want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>one example, the wood frog Lithabades sylvaticus, found throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>forests of Canada and the northern United States. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a frog that survives the harsh winter of northern

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian forests. How would it do that? Well, what you'll

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<v Speaker 1>notice it does is that when the cold north winds

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<v Speaker 1>set in sometime around September, these frogs crawl down and

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<v Speaker 1>nestle in some dead plant matter like some leaf litter

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<v Speaker 1>or dead grass, and then they literally freeze almost entirely solid.

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<v Speaker 1>About two thirds of their bodies water content turns into ice,

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<v Speaker 1>and even temperatures as low as zero degrease fahrenheit won't

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<v Speaker 1>kill them. And then when warm weather comes back, they

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<v Speaker 1>thaw out they hop away unharmed. Uh. Speaking to the

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<v Speaker 1>l A Times, the herpetologist Don Larson said, quote, on

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<v Speaker 1>an organismal level, they are essentially dead. The individual cells

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<v Speaker 1>are still functioning, but they have no way to communicate

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<v Speaker 1>with each other. So you might be wondering how do

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<v Speaker 1>they do this? Well, the body essentially manufactures cryoprotectant chemicals.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like glycogen in the frog's liver gets converted

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<v Speaker 1>into glucose, which keeps the frog's individual cells alive throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the freeze. And then also uria, which is the nitrogen

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<v Speaker 1>based crystalline compound you excrete in your urine, might also

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<v Speaker 1>play a role. Uria came up a little bit earlier

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<v Speaker 1>when we were talking about cold protection. But Larsen points

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<v Speaker 1>out this thing that's not known, but it's an interesting possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>He points out that freezing alive might not just be

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<v Speaker 1>a survival mechanism, but that could actually be beneficial to

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<v Speaker 1>an animal that wanted to rid itself of parasites. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>this is so good. I mean, we we we see

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<v Speaker 1>a similar cases. For instance, where if you have frozen fish,

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<v Speaker 1>you have you worry less about there being parasites in

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<v Speaker 1>the fish. And also if you're worried about dust mites

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<v Speaker 1>on one of your child's prize stuffed animals, you stick

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<v Speaker 1>it in the freezer overnight and that takes care of

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<v Speaker 1>the mite. So all the dust mights go to your

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<v Speaker 1>frozen shrimp. Yeah. Well, you know what's the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>a mite and a shrimp, really shrimp hugetticbal bugs. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the wood frog, but we've got another freezing champion,

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<v Speaker 1>even more hardy that I want to mention the red

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<v Speaker 1>flat bark beetle, which is kuka just clavippies. Usually we

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<v Speaker 1>would find them living under loop spark in North American

0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.360
<v Speaker 1>deciduous trees. And I found a report from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Alaska, Fairbanks that biologists Todd's form of quote cooled

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<v Speaker 1>the beetles in a lab to minus seventy degrees celsius,

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<v Speaker 1>which is minus ninety four degrees fahrenheit, and they did

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<v Speaker 1>not die. And then there was another experiment subsequently in

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<v Speaker 1>California they could that they found they could lower the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature of these beetles to minus a hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>degrees celsius, which is minus two hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>degrees fahrenheit, colder than any natural temperature on Earth without

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<v Speaker 1>freezing the beetles. That's incredible. Now, obviously our bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>not like this. We do not have such strong crier

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<v Speaker 1>protectant mechanisms, and freezing will definitely injure or kill us.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct exposure of body parts to cold weather can lead

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<v Speaker 1>to frostbite, which has a simple explanation and a more

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<v Speaker 1>complex explanation. The simple version is just that frost bite

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<v Speaker 1>is when body tissues freeze. The more complex one is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit chemical. It's when ice crystals form in

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<v Speaker 1>the body e tissues at dehydrates cells, causes damage to

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<v Speaker 1>sell membranes. Essentially, you don't want to let your outer

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<v Speaker 1>body parts freeze because there's sort of the point of

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<v Speaker 1>no return there. They didn't come back. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like most of us have probably read various accounts of explorers,

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<v Speaker 1>adventurers or refugees and in really chilling environments and accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of frostbite where you you you realize that is a

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<v Speaker 1>it is a terrible thing to have to experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something especially disturbing about it because it's almost like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just having like it's like necrosis. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like there's a part of the body that is

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<v Speaker 1>dying or is dead, but it's still attached to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's been chopped off. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>still there and it's not working for you. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is in d and d terms ne chrotic damage. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>we obviously are not as hardy as bark beetles, but

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<v Speaker 1>we do have adaptive mechanisms. And you'll see the first

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<v Speaker 1>signs of the human body reacting to cold weather really

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<v Speaker 1>just within a few seconds of exposure to sub thermo

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<v Speaker 1>neutral temperatures. So our skin has these thermo receptors and

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<v Speaker 1>it the detect both absolute and relative temperature differences, and

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<v Speaker 1>they let us know if the environment is too hot

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<v Speaker 1>or too cold. So when the body detects cold, it

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<v Speaker 1>begins to shunt blood away from the extremities. You you

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<v Speaker 1>probably feel some sensation of this and kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbness and all that when the blood is being

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<v Speaker 1>drawn away from the skin and away from the arms

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<v Speaker 1>and legs to keep it closer to the vital organs

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<v Speaker 1>like the heart and the lungs. This is essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>choice to sacrifice the outer skin and use it as

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<v Speaker 1>a layer of insulation. By keeping the blood away from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside, the blood stays warmer. Another defense mechanism is

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<v Speaker 1>running nose. You ever wonder like why your nose runs

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<v Speaker 1>in the cold. Uh So, cold air tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>very dry and of course very cold, and since you're

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<v Speaker 1>constantly pulling that dry air in through the nose, when

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<v Speaker 1>you breathe, it dries out the exposed surfaces within the

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<v Speaker 1>nasal cavity. In the nasal cavity, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>it does when you breathe through it is it warms

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<v Speaker 1>the air on the way down to your lungs. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're drawing in this really dry cold air that

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<v Speaker 1>is not being appropriately warmed inside the nose by your warm,

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<v Speaker 1>nice mucous layers in there and drying out the inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the nose, the body tries to compensate, and so

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<v Speaker 1>what it does is it moisturizes these passages by secreting

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<v Speaker 1>mucous fluid, leading to cold induced rhine a rhea, the

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<v Speaker 1>diarrhea of the nose. You know, I spent a few

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<v Speaker 1>years in my childhood in Roddington, Newfoundland, Canada, so we

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<v Speaker 1>had pretty intense winters up there. Uh So I have

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand, I have these really pleasant memories of

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<v Speaker 1>scaling giant snow banks and tunneling through them. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also have these persistent memories of of wearing a full

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<v Speaker 1>ski mask that is at once warming but also just

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<v Speaker 1>soggy with with snot you know, just just partially frozen

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<v Speaker 1>and partially warmed snot discovering the whole front of the

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<v Speaker 1>ski mask. You know. With exertion in cold weather, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the risk factors you need to watch out for

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<v Speaker 1>is that your clothes don't become sweat soaked, because then

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<v Speaker 1>though that sweat is going to the cool and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're essentially freezing in your own sweat. Yeah, no good.

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<v Speaker 1>So another thing we've all done it shivering. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the body's main defense mechanisms against cold. The purpose

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be to force your muscles to generate extra heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Movement and friction tend to produce heat. If you doubt this,

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<v Speaker 1>just rub your hands together for ten seconds. You'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>them warm up. And so the shivering is the body's

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<v Speaker 1>way of enlisting your muscle tissues as a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>emergency internal space heater, forcing them to rapidly contract and

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<v Speaker 1>rhythmic patterns all over the body and generate extra heat

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<v Speaker 1>to keep your vital organs and blood warm. Another adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to not really help very much anymore, goose bumps. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you ever wonder why, Like, what's the point? It almost

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<v Speaker 1>feels like when you get goose bumps, the bumps are

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on your skin, which would seem to increase

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<v Speaker 1>the surface area of your skin, which would make you

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<v Speaker 1>get cold even faster. Well, and then also it would

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<v Speaker 1>seem to move body hair away from the body. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It's like, oh, well, now this protective layer

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, barely visible arm hair is not even

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<v Speaker 1>touching my arm anymore. But no. Goose bumps are believed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a vestigial trait from our recent ancestors who

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<v Speaker 1>had much more body hair than us. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>got cold, they could raise the hairs on their skin

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<v Speaker 1>to become extra fluffy and insulated. And it's true that

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<v Speaker 1>actually lower density things are better insulators. Right. You notice that,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you put insulation in the walls in your house,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like some tightly packed metal or would kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. It's this loose, fluffy stuff because it conducts

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<v Speaker 1>heat less well, and so that's essentially what your body

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to do. It remembers the time when you

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<v Speaker 1>your ancestors had much more hair, and it's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fluff it up to become less conductive of of heat

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<v Speaker 1>and to insulate skin better from the cold. Now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we don't have much of that hair anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>we still have this reaction, so we get the bumps,

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<v Speaker 1>but without the insulation. Here's the seasonal fact. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have heard what time of year do people commit

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<v Speaker 1>suicide the most? It's winter, right, Yeah, well I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that is the that is sort of the common idea

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there. Yeah, I mean it sounds very truthy. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we it's it's it kind of goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea of arctic madness. Right. It feels appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>like it gets a little cold here in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 1>we start thinking, oh this this weather is driving me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's it's depressing me, or it's making me

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<v Speaker 1>behave radically, it makes me want to just shut myself

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<v Speaker 1>up in my home and not encounter the outside world again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes your mind connect naturally to all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotes that you have within, you know, some part of

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<v Speaker 1>your long term memory, stories about what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the in the Antarctic research stations, or or

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<v Speaker 1>these stories about perlernarek Um. But yeah, it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that this very truthy sounding fact that more people commit

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<v Speaker 1>suicide in the winter is not, in fact a fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a myth and yearly suicide rates do not

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<v Speaker 1>generally peak in the winter, but they do appear to

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<v Speaker 1>have a seasonal peak, and it's not in the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in spring and early summer. So how much more

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<v Speaker 1>suicide is there in the spring? Well, it varies a

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<v Speaker 1>lot between societies. But according to Fotus Papadopoulos, a professor

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<v Speaker 1>of psychiatry at Upsala University in Sweden, quote, if we

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<v Speaker 1>take winter as a baseline, there is a twenty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty higher suicide rate during spring. That's a pretty big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that doesn't sound like noise. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a real effect. Yeah, I mean it. I'm hesitant to

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<v Speaker 1>try and make too much sense out of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does lend itself to interpretations of Right, if

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<v Speaker 1>the winter is about survival, then what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the other side of that survival. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>like managing to cross a rickety bridge age and you

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<v Speaker 1>relieve that you made it across that bridge without plummeting

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<v Speaker 1>into the abyss. But here you are on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side and you have how many more leads to walk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, um, it's I can imagine the other hardships

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<v Speaker 1>of life kind of opening up again for you in

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<v Speaker 1>a new and perhaps more profound way. Yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see that too. Now. There have been scientific attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>look into what causes this spike in spring and early

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<v Speaker 1>summer for suicide attempts. There was, for example, a massive

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<v Speaker 1>literature review combining the findings of studies from nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine until two thousand eleven that had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal variations in suicide, and that was by wu uh Uku,

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<v Speaker 1>Saga and postlach In in the International Journal of Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Research and Public Health in twelve. In the major findings

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<v Speaker 1>uh were Here are a few of them, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Many studies have replicated the finding of a spring suicide

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<v Speaker 1>p gruffly in the April May June region of the calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>and this peak does not exist equally in all populations,

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<v Speaker 1>but shows up with varying intensity among many or most.

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<v Speaker 1>There are also summer peaks for some populations. In most studies,

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<v Speaker 1>winter months actually have the lowest rates of suicide of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire year, so when it's the coldest is when

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<v Speaker 1>suicide happens. The least um. However, despite massive amounts of research,

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship between seasonal change and suicide behavior is still

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<v Speaker 1>not very well understood, like what would cause these seasonal variations.

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<v Speaker 1>So here are a few of the ideas that have

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<v Speaker 1>been studied. One of them is changes in sunlight and temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>Some studies seem to have demonstrated there's actually a positive

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<v Speaker 1>correlation between suicide and exposure to sunlight. That seems kind

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<v Speaker 1>of counterintuitive, but these findings are also disputed. However, a

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<v Speaker 1>peak in late spring and early summer would correlate to

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<v Speaker 1>the longest days of the year. Also, this could be

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<v Speaker 1>informed by findings that side is more common among rural

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<v Speaker 1>populations than urban ones, and more common in outdoor workers

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<v Speaker 1>than indoor workers. It also varies a lot by geographical regions,

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<v Speaker 1>so spring peaks are found all over the place, but

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<v Speaker 1>are a varying intensity in different countries. For example, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a n study that found a very narrow seasonal

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<v Speaker 1>fluctuation in Canada, so the ratio of average spring to

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<v Speaker 1>winter suicide rates was one point zero eight, so barely

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<v Speaker 1>more in spring. But in the same study in Portugal

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<v Speaker 1>the ratio was one point seven, so you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>close to double as many in spring. Here's another really

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<v Speaker 1>odd one. A series of findings seemed to link suicide

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<v Speaker 1>rates to spring allergies and too people with allergies. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these studies was a two thousand four study

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<v Speaker 1>that found a correlation between the times of year with

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<v Speaker 1>peak suicide rates and the times of year with the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest concentration of allergenic tree pollen in the air. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>And that study was called tree poll and peaks are

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<v Speaker 1>associated with increased non violent suicide and women. Now, while

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<v Speaker 1>these changes show up in a lot of countries, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>there does seem to be a flattening effect in recent decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Like while suicides are still frequent, recent studies in England, Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong, Sweden, and Denmark shows seasonal variation on suicide rates. UH,

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<v Speaker 1>really flattening coming down, So there's not as much variation

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<v Speaker 1>from time of the year to another time of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But in other countries like Finland, in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a much more persistent seasonal pattern still peaking

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring. So that just makes me think about

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<v Speaker 1>the rural and un urban distinction that you touched on earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like maybe these are these maybe feeling in

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>the US. I mean, certainly there's a urbanization going on

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>in in all major Western cultures, but maybe there's still

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>enough of a rural base to to support like an

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>uptake in rural environments. Yeah, A lot of times people

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>don't think to think about suicide rates as like a

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<v Speaker 1>public health question, something that really should be researched and understood,

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and if you can understand the underlying causes and why

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and when these things happen, that you could treat it

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>like a disease that can be treated and prevented. Indeed,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but to get back to the winter thing, the winter

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>suicide myth, I'd say that is thoroughly busted. Not only

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is it not the peak for suicide in the year,

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it is generally the lowest time in the entire year

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<v Speaker 1>for suicide. And I wonder why this myth is so persistent,

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because I think if you'd asked me before I looked

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>into it, I would have thought, oh, yeah, yeah, wintertime. Well,

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I think part of it, especially here in the United

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>States and in other Western countries, that there's the link

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with the holidays, with Christmas, with especially the modern westernized

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>American Christmas, where it's all, it's not as much about

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>surviving the winner, and it's more about this just unrealistic

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>level of happiness that you're supposed to feel every time

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody jingles a jingle bell uh, and and it rarely

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>matches up with our experience of life, much less wide

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>life during during the winter. I think that's exactly right.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that there there are two different levels on

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>which this myth is sticky. One is the the sort

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of straightforward truthiness feeling, which is that in the winter

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's darker, it's colder, and we just associate these atmospheric

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>feelings with low mood, and then we associate low mood

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with things like suicide. But then also there's the contrarian truthiness,

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>where we think, oh, it's you know, the time when

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>everybody's telling you to be happy, and actually that's just

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>making everybody more miserable and you're you're trying to get

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to for the holidays, and this is leading to

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>all this commercialism and stress and having go to the

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 1>shopping mall, and so there's a sort of like folk

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>level gut feeling that this is just driving everybody nuts

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and making people miserable and unhappy. Well, and it's also

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>wrapped up in some of the culture of our Christmas

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, It's a Wonderful Life is one

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of our key American holiday films, and it is about

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy who is depressed and contemplating suicide at Christmas. Yeah,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you forget that's a bridge jumping movie. Yeah, but that

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>on some level it's basically letting it telling everybody, Hey, like,

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>suicide at Christmas is uh, it's it's part of Christmas.

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>It's in it's in the Christmas movie that you're watching.

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's Christmas as a as an American holiday since

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of some weirdly mixed messages. Yeah, though, of course we

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>should say no matter what time of year it is,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>if you are having suicidal feelings or ideation, you should

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>reach out to somebody. You should talk to somebody, let

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>them know. That's right. And hey, if anyone out there

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>needs to make a call, you can contact the National

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Suicide Preventional Lifeline at two seven, three eight to. Now

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>here's a cold weather question, does true or false? Robert?

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Going out in cold weather can cause you to catch cold. Ah.

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>We hear this one all the time. Right, go out

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in that cold you'll catch your death. But you also

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>here nowadays from you know, your skeptical say like that

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is a myth, not true. It's actually more complicated than

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>true or false. It seems to be somewhere in between. Now.

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we know that the cold itself will not

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>make you sick. Winter is traditionally known as cold and

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>flu season. But we do not live in the you know,

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the miasma theory of disease age anymore, where people thought

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that disease was caused by bad air. We live in

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the age of the germ theory of disease. So the

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>cold weather itself does not directly cause infection. But winter

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>months do seem to put us at risk for these

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>seasonal epidemics, and it's not an illusion. There are studies

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that show that that these these infection rates really do

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>go up in the winter, and there are several reasons

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>people have hypothesized why that might be. A commonly cited

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>hypothesis is that people spend more time indoors huddling together

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in winter months due to the cold weather, and physical

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>proximity to other people and touching and stuff can increase

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>your transmission rate of infectious diseases. Of course, your general

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>really more likely to catch something from somebody you're sharing

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a blanket and cuddling with. But there there are also

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>other mechanisms that might be operative. For example, there was

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a twenty sixteen study from the Yale School of Medicine

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that found that some of the human body's viral defense

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>mechanisms are simply less effective at lower temperatures. But there's

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>actually a much deeper way that your body adapts to

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the germ threats of winter months. The change in seasons

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.719
<v Speaker 1>is in your d n A. Alright, we're gonna take

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a quick break and we come back. We will dive

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>into this, uh, this alarming notion that that that winter

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>changes our genetic expression than alright, we're back. So we

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>tend to think of our d n A is being

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>safe from the winter. I would think, you know, I

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>had not really thought about this previously. I mean, you

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>tend to think of your d n A as being

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>safe from pretty much everything except you know that which

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>would cause mutations or uh maybe maybe maybe you're not

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>safe from cosmic rays, maybe you're not safe from X

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>ray bombardment, but you are at least safe from the

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>seasons down in your very DNA. But no, it turns

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 1>out our our d N A. While the basic genome

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>does not tend to change the way it's expressed, does

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>tend to change based on a lot of different factors,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'll explain what that means in a minute. So

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a study in Nature Communications found that roughly twenty three

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>percent of the genes found in human white blood cells

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and adipose tissue change their expression depending on the change

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>in seasons. Now, if you if you've read about this before,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you might have seen headlines like your DNA changes in

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the winter that maybe you know, if you're being generous,

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that could be thought of as correct, but it could

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>also meeting misleadingly implied that the literal code of the

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>genome is altered, and that's not the case. So we

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>should explain the difference between the genome itself and gene expression.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Your genes are sequences of DNA code found in the

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>cells in your body, and the genes generally don't change

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>unless there's a mutation. What changes is the expression of

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>individual genes and gene expression. Whenever you hear gene expression,

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you can sort of think of that as genes doing something.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Gene expression is when the code inside a gene is

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>chemically translated into a product like a protein or a

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>string of RNA, usually a protein that does something inside

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the body. And gene expression is how the genome makes

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>things happen. So if there are changes in which genes

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>get expressed and when this leads to changes in the body, Yeah,

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I often think about this and about the you know,

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>just epigenetic changes in general as being kind of like

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>these settings in a video game, particularly in a simulation game,

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>where you have all these various realism toggles you can

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>switch on and off, and they ultimately affect how the

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>game manifests to the player. Yeah, where you can think about,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean to follow the video game and alogy. Another

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>way you can think of it is that the code

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.959
<v Speaker 1>of the video game does not change. That like the

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>programming code that creates the game is set, but different

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>parts of it are executing at different times, and so

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the expression is sort of like the execution of a

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>line of code. So what's the chemical basis for gene expression. Well,

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>genes are expressed when they get exposed to another chemical

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>called messenger RNA or mrn A, and the mRNA reads

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the code and the genes and uses it to set

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>off a process that creates proteins that lead to changes

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>within and between cells. So the question then would be,

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>how come mr and A isn't constantly reading all of

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>our genes at once all the time and setting off

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 1>these these protein creating processes all the time. Well, here's

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>one reason. There are tons of genes inside a cell

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>nucleus of a eukaryotic organism, and the body fits them

0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>in there by coiling them tightly around alkaline protein means

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>called his stones. Now, if you've seen a picture of

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>this before, it's often compared to beads along a string.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what it looks like. The DNA associates

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>very easily with the histones because the DNA is negatively

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>charged and the his stones are positively charged. And a

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>gene from this coiled strand of DNA that coils around

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the his stones gets expressed when it picks up a

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>methyl marker, which makes it loosen from the his stone core.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And once it loosens and uncoils, the DNA can match

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>up with mRNA and then undergo expression, which, as we said,

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>generally means making proteins, which means something is happening. So

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of triggers lead to changes in gene expression,

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>which genes are are sort of like being brought forth

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to manufacture their will on the world. One example, it's

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>been shown in a lot of context that some gene

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>expression changes occur over the natural day night cycle. In

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the morning, you're going to be expressing some genes, and

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>then at night you're going to be expressed others. Uh So,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for example, if you're studying what genes are being expressed

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in a sample of tissue, it could actually matter what

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>time of day you take the sample. So one of

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the authors of this twenty sixteen study I mentioned earlier,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the Cambridge immuno geneticist Chris Wallace, told Wired magazine in

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a good article about this quote. We knew that there's

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 1>some genes that changed their expression throughout the day. Then

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it hit us, lam, what is the effect on genes

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of the length of the day throughout the year. Great

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>piece of deductive reasoning. So of course it's leading to experiments.

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Wallace inter colleagues compared findings from several studies which tracked

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>gene expression in populations from different times of the year

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>in both the northern and southern hemispheres and the countries

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>where Germany, Australia, the US, the UK, Iceland, and the Gambia.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>And of course, as we we've said before, this matter

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is because in the northern and southern hemispheres, winter and

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>summer are reversed, so in the summer hemisphere it's summer

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>January and winter in July. And this helps because it

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>allows you to isolate that any differences really were caused

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 1>by natural changes in the seasons and not probably by

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>human cultural factors like the calendar or the month or

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So they found that in these white

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>blood cells there were thousands of genes that showed seasonal

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>changes in expression. Uh, there were two thousand, three hundred

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>eleven summer genes they identified and two thousand, eight hundred

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and twenty six winter genes, and it looks like most

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>of these changes had to do with immune system function. Now,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of course they were looking at white blood cells as

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>if the immune system were ramping up inflammation responses to

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>deal with the germ threat of winter. And in the

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>samples from tropical Gambia, the changes for immune system gene

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>expression came not during winter, but during the rainy season

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>when people are exposed to the greatest risk of malaria.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So what we're seeing here is that the body does

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>have some kind of seasonal changes in the way that

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it expresses your genome, different parts of the code that

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>makes you you get activated depending on what time of

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the year it is, uh and on you know, not

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>so much what time of the year it is, but

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the seasonal triggers around you in the environment. And one

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of the things that this is very tightly controlling is

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the inflammation response. Now, the inflammation response, as we know,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it helps keep us from getting sick. It's very primitive,

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>ancient type of immune response. It's not very pleasant, but

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it does help keep you know, germs and stuff from

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>destroying your body. But as we also know, inflammation can

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>lead to all kinds of other health problems. It can

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>lead to metabolic problems, it can lead to arthritis. You know,

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's implicated in wide arranging medical problems. So this sort

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>of opens up a door into a whole arena of

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>new research that could take place about how our genes

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>are not just helping defend us from these seasonal epidemics,

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>but also in how they put us at risk. Now,

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>earlier we mentioned the idea that there are certain like

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>cardiovascular problems that people have increased risk of of of

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>dying from in the winter, and this also seems to

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>indicate that there are inflammation related problems that could really

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 1>put us at risk in these months, and maybe studying

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the way our genes change over the seasons could help

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>figure out ways help us figure out ways to protect us. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a question in the study, of course, is what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>triggers the change in gene expression. Is it the temperature,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the length of the days and how much

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<v Speaker 1>the body has access to sunlight? Or could it be

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<v Speaker 1>something else? I mean, maybe it's not impossible. There could

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<v Speaker 1>be some kind of cultural practices that that trigger this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't seem likely because it's manifested across so

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<v Speaker 1>many different countries and regions. It would be different. There

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<v Speaker 1>there's a group where they eat a particular pickled fish

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<v Speaker 1>during the winter, and you could you could potentially blame

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<v Speaker 1>it on that one pickled fish totally. So the traditions

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<v Speaker 1>that cast us as seasonal shape shifters are in anyways

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<v Speaker 1>literally correct. There are ways in which our bodies are

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<v Speaker 1>adapting to these seasonal changes to make us a different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of animal when the winter sets in isn't that interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it not only does it back up this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that there there is a winter self in some ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also just drives home the the ever changing

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<v Speaker 1>nature of of of the human being. You know, not

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<v Speaker 1>just not just in in our thoughts and our memories,

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<v Speaker 1>but not just in the aging of the body and

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<v Speaker 1>the acquiring and the healing of injuries or or illnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>but that our our body is going through cyclical phases

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep up and thrive within the seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of our environment, even if we don't actually hibernate. Now

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<v Speaker 1>here's the question I really want to understand. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the biological mechanism that forces humans to continually make new

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<v Speaker 1>adaptations of Charles Dickens a Christmas care starring the cast

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<v Speaker 1>of pre existing chises of cartoons. Ah, well, you got

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<v Speaker 1>flint Stones, You've got Mr Magoo, you got uh. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure I'm forgetting something. But there's like a Jetson's Christmas Carol?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it really a flint Stone's Christmas Carol? There's a

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<v Speaker 1>flint Stones. There's famously a Mickey Christmas Carol. H yeah

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<v Speaker 1>for me, muppets, muppets for me. I really only have

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<v Speaker 1>two that I get really only one. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be the musical Scrooge. One of the few musicals that

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy, uh to this day is is the Albert Finney.

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Finney is Scrooge, and that the film all has

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful songs, and also like the one of the darker

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>visions of the supernatural elements found in a Christmas Carol,

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like that the ghosts are all tremendously frightening. Um Alec

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Guinness plays Marley, and I believe that even muscular devil

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<v Speaker 1>show up. There's a scene where scroogees in Hell and

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<v Speaker 1>having to deal with the chains of Hell, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have all these muscular red devils up trooping around. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen the nineteen forty nine vincent Price

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol? What? No, I had no idea how he

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<v Speaker 1>ever played No, no, no no. I don't get excited.

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't play Scrooge. He just shows up holding a

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<v Speaker 1>book and he's like, well, Charles Dickens and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>introduces it. It's it's worth a watch. It's on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious. It's uh, probably the worst adaptation of a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol. I've ever seen a list of issues include

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>it spells Ebeneezer wrong in the opening credits, It gets

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<v Speaker 1>the title of the book wrong. It is called the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol. You can sometimes see like the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of set walls, so there's just like beams holding up

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the walls of the set. And their Scrooge is this

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's like chrish mesh bag heysh. Now, now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the here's a question. You see so many different actors

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<v Speaker 1>who've played Dracula, so many different actors have played Scrooge.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many actors can you think I've have played both?

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<v Speaker 1>The only one that comes to my mind off hand

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<v Speaker 1>is Jack Palin's whoa that's was Michael Caine ever Dracula? Oh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was. It seems like it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like he could. He easily could have been. Kine could

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<v Speaker 1>have played Dracula. But I go through the others, like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>has uh Albert Finney ever played Dracula? Knowledge has has

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<v Speaker 1>Luis or Don ever played Scrooge? No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there's ever been a French Scrooge. Likewise, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>Draculas and all the Scrooges, there seems to be very

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<v Speaker 1>little overlap between the two roles much, you know, much

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<v Speaker 1>less the characters. I don't think anyone's ever made a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Carol with Dracula in it was Gary Oldman. Ever Scrooge,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was, But again, there's no reason

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<v Speaker 1>why he shouldn't. He's played Churchill, and I believe what

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Albert Finny has played Churchill. So it's there's there's every

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<v Speaker 1>reason in the world that you would see more crossover

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>between these two roles. You here about the upcoming Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Carol with Christian Bale as Scrooge. Is that true? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that real? No? I'm missing But because Christian Pale Bale

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<v Speaker 1>ever played Dracula, I guess not. He's got to choose, right,

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>there's some hidden, like hooded council that decides whether you

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<v Speaker 1>get to play Scrooge or Dracula. And unless you're Jack Palents,

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you you cannot choose both. We're just digging ourselves deeper

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and deeper. All right, Well, this week I feel like

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>we've we've really had a fabricous exploration here of of

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<v Speaker 1>how we think about our winter selves, how we culturally

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<v Speaker 1>frame our winter selves in some cases, and then what

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<v Speaker 1>our body is actually doing during the winter, What is

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<v Speaker 1>it doing differently, how is it adapting, how is it

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<v Speaker 1>behaving within different parameters, and what those two different things

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<v Speaker 1>may have to do with each other. Yeah. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest for listeners out there, one thing you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to try this winter is come up with the

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<v Speaker 1>new winter name for yourself. Yes, I like this, Either

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<v Speaker 1>an adaptation of your existing name or just something altogether

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<v Speaker 1>new but fitting for the winter you. Maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>your name but with a W as the first letter, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so woe and Wobert. Yeah. Or it could be more

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<v Speaker 1>like really like more of a title that defines what

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<v Speaker 1>you do. Like he who binge watches Netflix and eats chili,

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of a thing. He who foolishly buys fresh

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<v Speaker 1>tomatoes in the winter, that's a good one. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd love to hear from all of you out there.

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<v Speaker 1>What would your winter name be? And indeed, how is

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<v Speaker 1>the winter you different from the summer you? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>experience seasonal effective disorder? Uh? Do you think you have

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>seasonal effective disorder? Either way, let us know we would

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear from you. Oh, and especially if we

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<v Speaker 1>have any listeners with Kua Kwakuwa heritage. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you with your thoughts about these winter

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