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Speaker 2: Good morning, swim World, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, April thirteenth. This

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Speaker 2: is Film Session, and today we're breaking down the romantic

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Speaker 2: drama love and basketball. I'm Jays Skeets and alongside of

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Speaker 2: me through the power of technology, Task most Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 2: it's up. Task. We got the Bearded One, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 2: Hey out Hey yoo, and the international Man of Mystery

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Speaker 2: taking it to the max, Lee Ellis friend Ley and

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Speaker 2: last but not least, making the magic happen as Jad. Hello,

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Speaker 2: there he is, and here we are before we pose

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Speaker 2: We're now on Facebook and last night we dropped a

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Speaker 2: forty minute podcast recapping Sunday's NBA Horse Challenge, which aired

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Speaker 2: on ESPN. That thing was two hours. We somehow talked

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Speaker 2: about it for forty minutes. Lee, where the hell were

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Speaker 2: you though? Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I had to sit this one out. Sorry, guys,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't do the Horse now. I was actually watching

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Speaker 4: the movie that we were about to talk about here.

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Speaker 4: That's where I allocate my Sunday nights. So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: NBA Horse Competition. I was watching a little Love and Basketball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, there'll be no excuse for you to not

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Speaker 2: watch Thursday nights. Then you're watching a movie, sucker, You're

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Speaker 2: watching Horse. Yeah, we are talking about two thousand's Love

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Speaker 2: and Basketball here on film Session, written directed by Gina

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Speaker 2: Prince Bythwood, starring Omar Epps and Sana Latham. The IMDb

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Speaker 2: knopsis Monica and Quincy love and play basketball together through

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Speaker 2: many life challenges from childhood to adulthood. So Lee watching

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Speaker 2: it late at night? We know Trey was watching it

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Speaker 2: after Horse. How was the late night experience for Love

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Speaker 2: and Basketball? Was it extra sexy at night?

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Speaker 3: Honestly a little bit too sexy.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised to see Dennis Haysbert in the lover

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Speaker 5: is a little bit too spicy.

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Speaker 3: Good thing. Wara already went to bed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a romantic sexual type of movie at times,

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Speaker 4: There no doubt about it. You know, it's a little

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Speaker 4: Gump and Jenny situation. You know that their life starts off,

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Speaker 4: you know, together when their little kids, and then it

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Speaker 4: just sort of continues throughout their life there. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: but it was, you know, it was fine. It was

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Speaker 4: it was nice romance anyway. I didn't you know, I

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Speaker 3: That, but.

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Speaker 6: You know, it was fun.

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Speaker 4: It was fun to see a couple who stayed together

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Speaker 4: since they were kids and you know, gotten through a

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Speaker 2: Were you more aroused by the love scenes or the

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Speaker 2: basketball scenes?

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Speaker 4: Lee, Well, I mean basketball movies, like, basketball scenes are

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Speaker 4: just kind of pretty predictable. Although there was one thing

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Speaker 4: never ever seen before in a basketball movie. But otherwise,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I think I think I felt

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, let's go through this sort of in chronological order.

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Speaker 2: We will not tackle every scene. And in fact, guys,

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Speaker 2: So the first quarter, nineteen eighty one is where we start.

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Speaker 2: We got young Q, we got Quincy rocking the number

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I was the only one, because

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought they were both compelling characters. They reeled

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Speaker 8: I was laid on a little bit thick that a

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they didn't write in to that scene

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Speaker 2: like he's wearing a clippers jersey, we learned very quickly.

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Speaker 2: She's a Magic Johnson fan obviously Lakers fan. Nothing about

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Speaker 5: Well you mentioned it there, Skeets nineteen eighty one, the

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Speaker 3: They were still in San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Were they living in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, quite a commute to be playing in those games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I guess they didn't move to LA

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, Jad, What did you think about that

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Speaker 8: layout the first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter?

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Speaker 7: I liked it. I liked it because I sort of

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought it was going to actually too, because

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Speaker 2: we were in the third quarter, like fifty minutes into

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Speaker 2: this movie. This is gonna be a long fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fouls called a lot

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Speaker 2: The final thing from sort of this first quarter scene,

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Speaker 2: They kiss each other, they insult each other, they break up,

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Speaker 7: Quick, and five seconds of that was a kiss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it kiss. It was amazing how fast they became

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Speaker 5: You know, we covered what twenty five thirty years of

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Speaker 5: it's basically Q asks Monica to ride on his bike

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Speaker 5: and that's the end of it.

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Speaker 3: That's the end.

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Speaker 5: We're fighting. Now we're fighting, we're throwing down. I'm calling

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Speaker 5: you a big head. One of the most vicious insults

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Speaker 3: That one really hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the inspiration for NBA jam programmers that one right there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, that was that's when they're kids, that's when

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Speaker 2: eighteen eighty eight, we flash forward to high school. Really

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Speaker 2: Monica playing high school ball. She's you know, she's got

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Speaker 2: Lee fair Eno.

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Speaker 4: No, well, you know that taunting is not allowed, but

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Speaker 5: If a high school kid says anything to a rough,

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Speaker 4: And in high school, I mean that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I think we also that's included because you know, we

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Speaker 2: a few uncalled travels. In my opinion, Okay.

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Speaker 7: Good, I'm glad you said something because I thought the

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there was a couple where I'm like, come on,

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Speaker 2: I call that that's a that's a poem. But he

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Speaker 2: but we got that juxtaposition or the reason I think

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Speaker 2: I get told to calm down and act like a lady,

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Speaker 2: but I'm a ballplayer. I think that was a part

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Speaker 2: of it, Like why it's in there. It's like, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I think that would have worked a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: But that was a criticism, Jady.

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Speaker 7: That's it. I agree with that. It's fair. It's a

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Speaker 7: fair criticism. Just I would have liked to see the same, Like,

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Speaker 7: if you're gonna juxtapose the two, let's see him getting

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Speaker 7: I mean, as the movie goes on, they they do

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and then that's when she breaks down, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a sleeper. She was definitely a sleeper

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Speaker 3: I thought she was a major scene stealer. I loved

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: After that, I thought, we see a few Gordon Gartrell's

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Speaker 2: a lot of nice silk flowing shirts, get some you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right to cover. Yeah, excell doing Kate Bush cover.

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Speaker 2: She sees the USC letter. She's probably she's not thinking

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Speaker 8: Can we can we just note? Can we just note here?

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Speaker 8: She's sleeping with some sort of stuffed animal. Is that

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there are some people that do that.

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Speaker 7: That's still a thing at eighteen.

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Speaker 8: Like she's hugging the thing. She has to, she has

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Speaker 8: Sex time and and lots of foreplay. They don't just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say reaches over grabs, the grabs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely that this was like basically watching my life

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Speaker 8: The amount of people that you look down upon, JD.

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Speaker 7: You still haven't gotten number that desk, No.

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Speaker 7: Hey, friend, you're making a mistake, right right.

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Speaker 2: easy layup on the other end and coach goes crazy.

437
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you knew there was going to be some blowback.

438
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 4: I just thought she was going to get her I

439
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 4: thought she was going to get in trouble just for

440
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: pulling out for the three, you know, saying I thought

441
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: she was going to say, come on, you gotta get

442
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 4: you the lamp, and I thought she was going to

443
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 4: get benched, but it was because she was celebrating and

444
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: admiring her shot and conceding immediately to her direct opponent.

445
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 4: That coach was like, right, hold your hand up for

446
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 4: the rest of the practice. Not a bad way of

447
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 4: punishing her, actually, because she'll never forget.

448
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 6: I thought, so, Yeah, it.

449
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 3: Was a good little twist there.

450
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting that to be the outcome, even though

451
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 4: I knew there was going to be some payment and

452
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: some punishment for her, you know, show voting out there

453
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 4: on the court durom practice, especially for a freshman or fresh.

454
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 5: Seeah, I'm watching that scene, and all I'm thinking is that, Monica,

455
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 5: you're still up plus one threes more than two. I

456
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 5: don't see a problem with posan if you're able to

457
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 5: rip the starting point guard and then pull up with

458
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 5: nine people behind you, and it's all that this coach

459
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 5: needs to get with the times. I know it's nineteen

460
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 5: eighty eight, but we got players shooting threes all the time,

461
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 5: like Q is shooting threes all of the time. During

462
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighty eight eighty nine season, and players didn't

463
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 5: shoot threes back then, so I suppose that's why Monica

464
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 5: had to stand on the side of practice. But I

465
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 5: just thought it was a little dated approach by the

466
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 5: coach there. Nonetheless, she was dropping gems. Point guards lead

467
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 5: from the front, not the back. Offense sells tickets, defense

468
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 5: wins games.

469
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that coach, she's a hard ass.

470
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure if we ever saw a Monica write MVP

471
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 5: acceptance speech, she would give some props to that coach.

472
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: Coach looked so familiar to Oh.

473
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 4: My god, is it maybe supposed to be Nancy Lieberman?

474
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know.

475
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: I don't know, just because I was like, that looks

476
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 4: like someone who we've seen at some point, you know,

477
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 4: coaching women's basketball.

478
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 6: She she just really had a familiar look to her.

479
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: But well, did we look it up? Is she a

480
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: real basketball I don't think so.

481
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 3: I don't know she is not.

482
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 8: Her name is Christine Dunford.

483
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: Okay, was she in any stream maybe we would know,

484
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 2: Like she did look familiar. I'm with you on that, Lee.

485
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's been she's found some stuff.

486
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay, you're an order fan.

487
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 8: She's been around, She's in a lot of she's been

488
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 8: a lot of things she was, So that's why she

489
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 8: wanted to Peter Fonda in Julie's Gold. I'm pronouncing that.

490
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: You see that one, Okay, Well we look up.

491
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 8: She was Dawn of War. I think that was one

492
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 8: thing though, that this movie had over Coach Carter, was

493
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 8: the inner actions between her, between the coach and Monica

494
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 8: like that that punishment for show voting, Like, I thought

495
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 8: that was just it made more sense, it was more appropriate.

496
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: Yep, I would agree with that. I'd say over all,

497
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: the you know, the practice scenes and stuff like that,

498
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 2: and some of the basketball was like fun, like it

499
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: was fine. It was just like, you know, okay, maybe

500
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: there was a travel here or there, but overall it

501
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: was nothing that crazy in my opinion. But after the

502
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: practice we get the iconic really strip basketball scene where

503
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: they're they're in the dorm room. They're gonna play one

504
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: on one and if you get scored on, you got

505
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: to take off your clothing. I didn't realize that. Okay,

506
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: I knew. I'd heard, of course, the quote all's fair

507
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 2: in love in basketball, baby, I'd heard that a million times.

508
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 2: I knew it was, of course from this movie. I

509
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: didn't realize this happened immediately after Monica hanks his dick.

510
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: I had no idea about that part, which makes the

511
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: quote even better because that's exactly what happens here. She

512
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: just straight up hawks it.

513
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: And you know, for me, I've always had a problem

515
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 5: when an NBA player hits another player in the Hibberts.

516
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 5: But I guess it's because I've never seen this movie

517
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 5: before last Night. All spar and love in basketball, So

518
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 5: go below the belt, why not?

519
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

520
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 8: And then she brings it back later on, obviously, or

521
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 8: he brings it back yeah later on and returns that

522
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 8: line a little bit later. But even in this scene,

523
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 8: I was I was surprised, even more so by the

524
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 8: last bucket that Monica scores. She just goes by Quincy

525
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 8: and she asks him where's the D and he drops

526
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 8: his shorts and says, it's right here. I didn't know

527
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 8: that this that D was euphemism for Dieck in nineteen

528
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 8: eighty nine. I thought that was like, yeah, I wasn't

529
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 8: saying that in high school. I was never I was

530
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 8: not saying in high school, right right, right, yeah, agree, agree.

531
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 8: I think that was out of place. I think that

532
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 8: was like fifteen years later.

533
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: Twenty years, right because the movie made in two thousand.

534
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah that's being said then, but I hear you. I

535
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: hadn't thought about that. Yeah, otherwise they like all my

536
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 2: little fact checking, would you know, did check out? Like

537
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: they were playing double dribble at one point on the

538
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: n YES system. I'm like, hold on, hold on two thousand,

539
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: why are you playing double drill for him? Like, ah wait, yeah,

540
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: we're back in the late eighties or just come out.

541
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but no, that's a good point. Tasks didn't.

542
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: Maybe it was maybe we just didn't know about it

543
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: a while to get to us up here in Canada

544
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: or up in Canada. Okay, we get the basketball montage JD.

545
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: We get the Robin Roberts Dick Fatale hyping up USC

546
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: mixed with like Q killing it as a freshman, but

547
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: Monica's sort of riding the pine and working on her game.

548
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: You know. It's like this sort of back and forth,

549
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: this sort of hype montage. What did you think of

550
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 2: that scene?

551
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 7: I was fine with it. I was a little distracted

552
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 7: because the the lines they put to make it look

553
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 7: like it was on TV was actually sort of hurting

554
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 7: my eyes a little, you know what. I mean, like

555
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 7: aout this So it was just like, oh, okay, and

556
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 7: I found it weird that. I mean, I don't know

557
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 7: if this is weird because I don't know anything about it.

558
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 7: But the who's the female reporter. She's a real reporter, right,

559
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 7: Robin Robert, Robin Roberts. Yet she was talking about women's

560
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 7: basketball and men's basketball in the same segment. That seemed

561
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 7: a little weird to me. Is that a thing? I mean,

562
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 7: I don't know, but.

563
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Just the idea that she's saying us is going to

564
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: be good.

565
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 8: I wasn't that out of place, especially in today's NBA

566
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 8: maybe or today's basketball world. Maybe back then it would

567
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 8: have been more out of place, but it didn't seem

568
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 8: that out of place anyway.

569
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 7: As a as a tool for exposition, I thought it

570
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 7: was fine. It was good.

571
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I hated about the montage, and

572
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: I've already said I really liked the music overall, I

573
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: hated the song choice for that scene. It was so

574
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: weird the music selection for this again hype up basketball montage.

575
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: It's something called our Destiny by Hindu Hicks and that

576
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: all if you guys can sort of remember it in

577
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: your head. To me, sounded so much like unpretty by Tals.

578
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

579
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: This TLC and then no, it's this Hinda Hicks. I

580
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: don't even know who the hell that is, but man,

581
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: did it sounds similar? And I don't know who ripped

582
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: it off from who. I didn't go that deep into

583
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: into checking it. But a weird just a weird song

584
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: for a like a totally fine basketball montage to show

585
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: that Ces killing it as a freshman and she's sort

586
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: of not playing and again just working on our game.

587
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 8: After that, I have to giggle when you say dick

588
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 8: vital though, because a little later when when they're in

589
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 8: their fight that we'll get to, but she says, you know,

590
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 8: I just I love basketball. I'm so focused on basketball.

591
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 8: He goes, well, why don't you go married?

592
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 7: Y tale?

593
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: Then I would have loved to see her honk dick

594
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Backtel right in the nose. Yeah. So we get then

595
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: the emotional pool scene. I guess i'll call it where

596
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: we learned that C's mom has ah And again I've

597
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: skipped over a little bit, but we get that C's

598
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: mom has hired a private investigator to see if her

599
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: husband was cheating on her, and you know, we see

600
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: that he was he was a pro ballplayer. I mean,

601
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: he had all these groupies and he couldn't help himself.

602
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: So we get this and that's when then Q and

603
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 2: Monica are talking on the bleachers, and this is a

604
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 2: strange scene to me, but you know, he cues upset

605
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: and he's talking to his girlfriend and she's like, I

606
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: gotta get She's looking at the clock, going like, I

607
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: gotta get back to the dorm room because we have

608
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: an eleven o'clock her few and she's going to find out,

609
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: like you know, she's going to be playing and stuff

610
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: like that and can't blow it. And he's, you know,

611
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: he's disappointed, I guess in her. I know he's upset

612
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: about his dad and learning that he's lied to him

613
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: and he's you know, cheating on his mom. But I

614
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: mean they could have they could have made that. They

615
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: could have made this work, is my point. Like, could

616
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: have gone back there, could have talked on the phone

617
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: and said he's just pissed off because she's what choosing basketball.

618
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: I guess over him.

619
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looked like a bit of a dick in

620
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: that saying, because uh, yeah, she could have I think

621
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: she invited him to.

622
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 6: Her to her room.

623
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Didn't she think so too?

624
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, he just didn't want to run into anybody.

625
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that was an excuse. Yeah, it's like there's nobody

626
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: out man. Yeah, it's later.

627
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was definitely a problem in the movie. The

628
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 8: reason that they break up is because of four minutes

629
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 8: on a clock a little bit weak.

630
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then he has a brutal game the

631
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: next day. It's all in his head, you know, just

632
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: unforced turnover after unforced turnover. And then meanwhile, Monica draws

633
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: the game saving offensive foul.

634
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: She's Kyl Lowry out there, game winning game winning charge because.

635
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: The game saving game winning.

636
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I honestly think that's the only time in

637
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: cinematic history I've ever seen a charge really for one

638
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: and turn it into a game winner. I thought that

639
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: was brilliant. I thought that was just a fantastic move

640
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: because you do expect, you know, to be automatically the

641
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: game winning shot, but instead she hustled back and played

642
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: de because she threw the ball away too, so she

643
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: made up for it. I just I just loved that scene.

644
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: I thought, great, finally something a little bit different in

645
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: a basketball movie.

646
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, But I bortioned this one.

647
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: I went back, friend, Oh.

648
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: It looked like those feet were set. That looked like

649
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: a charge to me.

650
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 8: Good cough, Okay, totally, totally. Shooter had not started the

651
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 8: upward motion and she could have quit. She could have quit,

652
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 8: as coach said later on, But that charging drill that

653
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 8: they had back in high school, it paid off. I

654
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 8: always love seeing that that block charge drill being done

655
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 8: where you just have to take a charge, because I

656
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 8: did that in high school. Yeah, and everybody did, and

657
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 8: it was just pointless.

658
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: It seems so stupid, so stupid.

659
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 8: I hated take in a body every single time. But

660
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 8: I guess it worked out.

661
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: It's paid off.

662
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: It paid off. Monica is the hero in that game. Again,

663
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: Q having a brutal game. So then we go to

664
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: the house party scene. Maybe my favorite, Well, I do

665
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, I love the iconic All's fair in the basketball,

666
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: but I love this quote that goes back and forth.

667
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: Somebody says to Q, with Monica standing right there, you

668
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: hear about your girl, she won the starting spot, and

669
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: he goes, hey, where the keg at? I just wants

670
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: to get drunk, and he's hansy. I mean This is

671
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: where Q just looks like a huge ass. I mean,

672
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: first off, lame excuse breaking up with Monica to begin with,

673
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: and now he's really leaning into being a dick. Yeah.

674
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 8: The job of him showing that he was drinking some alcohol,

675
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 8: I mean yeah, he said where the keg at? And

676
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 8: he had to sip through it in a solo cup.

677
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 8: But it didn't seem too drunk to me.

678
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree.

679
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: I wonder how much alcohol use they're allowed to show

680
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: for him as a college athlete, just a freshman, clearly

681
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: less than twenty one years old.

682
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they're trying to play a cool I.

683
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: Mean he shows up, you can tell he's a he's

684
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: had a few pop size, he's got something he's swigging on,

685
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 5: but he still wants to find that keg.

686
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. He says he's going through a lot.

687
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: Man, and his girlfriend wasn't there to sit specifically on

688
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: the football bleachers and break this down with him. Must

689
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: have been a crushing couple of nights for Hugh McCall.

690
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 8: I can stay for a couple more minutes, but that

691
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 8: I got it all.

692
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: Sorry, I only talk emotions at the football stadium after eleven.

693
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Where no one can see me, he will not run

694
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: into anybody. Then we get Que confronting his dad and

695
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, telling him he's going pro uh. And then

696
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: not long after, I mean, he continues to be a

697
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: jerk to Monica. Q hooks up with Carrie, like right

698
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: in front of her, right there, Like at this point

699
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: they're technically still a couple, right they are?

700
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 6: She absolutely thinks they are.

701
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

702
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and why wouldn't she think that?

703
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he didn't turn up to her game. Oh

704
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: that's why she went around there and he said he

705
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: was had business to take care of something like that.

706
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: And then and then the girl just pops in there

707
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: like I was like, oh, cute man, come on.

708
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking her to Burger King too, he said.

709
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 5: Later, Yeah, two bros sitting on the couch just kind

710
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: of watching the whole scene transpire.

711
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: Like.

712
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, he goes, I took that hoe to

713
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: Burger King, And it's like, cue, you just look like

714
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: such a dick right now. I mean, you've got a girl,

715
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: a loyal girlfriend, you're cheating on her, and then you're

716
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: calling this other one a hoe and you're taking her

717
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: to Burger King, Like are you just trying to win

718
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: the most points possible for being the biggest dick in

719
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: the world right.

720
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: Now because he has a bad He has a fifteen

721
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty minute run in this movie before sure, eighty eight

722
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: eighty nine not a good season for Quincy, a good year.

723
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 7: Getting back to those bros, there are no friends in

724
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 7: this movie, right, Like, they're neither of them have any

725
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 7: other than the caricatures sitting on the couch and other

726
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 7: than I guess her sister, but she's a family member.

727
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 7: But other than family members, there's literally no friends.

728
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

729
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: It's either if there's another additional character, it's it's a

730
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: love interest basically, right.

731
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 8: Just Spalding his Monica's friends an other friends.

732
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Well yeah, like because even now we're into the fourth

733
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: quarter here, we're into nineteen ninety three. Suddenly were in Barcelona.

734
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: I did not see that coming in this movie. Oh,

735
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: it will be completely honest.

736
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 8: It was nice to an international baby.

737
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, wow, this is cool. I wasn't

738
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: didn't see this coming. Yeah, Monica's there, she's got endorsement deals,

739
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: she's signing autographs. They're in the championship game. But this

740
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: goes to your point. I think j D a little

741
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: bit like she's in Barcelona, she's in Spain, and someone

742
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: she played against in high school is also playing there,

743
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: and like they've just saw each other for the first

744
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: time in the in the hallway leading up to the

745
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: championship team.

746
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 7: Well, she's playing she's playing in Italy, right, yeah, she's

747
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: playing it.

748
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 8: She's playing for Parma in Italian team.

749
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, but it is.

750
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 7: Very weird that she wouldn't realize that her ex teammate

751
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 7: is on the other team in the championship game. I

752
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 7: mean I thought that was weird.

753
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they've just seen each other. Well, yeah,

754
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: they there.

755
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: Was no internet, I guess back then, so they couldn't

756
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: really scout each other. Maybe that was it. They just

757
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: left the scouting up to the team coaches and the

758
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: you know lost in translation. No one ever said, hey,

759
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: this girl Sidra plays for the opponent like that.

760
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, Well, I guess her being been part of

761
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 8: the alumni association, but I guess not.

762
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, people stay in touch after college, man,

763
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: that if they're you know, sort of in the same groups.

764
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: You're right, not fraternities or sororities, but just teams and

765
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: stuff like that that was just shocking. And you thought

766
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: it was crazy when we went from a tip ball

767
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: right to the fourth quarter one minute ago. Well, in

768
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: this one, in the IWBA championship game, we go from

769
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: the jump ball cut right to postgame dinner.

770
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 7: With the trophy sitting on the table.

771
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we just jump right there.

772
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 7: I actually thought that was kind of ingenius, just for

773
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 7: nothing else than saving production money, because all we get

774
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 7: is that overhead shot of them shaking hands, the ball

775
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 7: is tipped, and then we're done. But we're done with

776
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 7: the championship game. That could have been a massively expensive

777
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 7: set piece in a European arena, and I thought it

778
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 7: was great. And even as corny as it was to

779
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 7: see the stupid trophy sitting on the table, there was

780
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 7: you were sitting there wondering for a beat or two,

781
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 7: well who won, like whoo, who does the trophy belong to?

782
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 7: And then it's revealed obviously, But I thought that was

783
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 7: pretty That was a pretty nice It was a good choice.

784
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well, while that's sort of going on in

785
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: ninety three, Q is playing for the Lakers, so he's

786
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: doing okay, He's coming off the bench behind rookie Nick

787
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: Van Exell. I looked it up. The Lakers went thirty

788
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: three and forty nine. I believe in the season that

789
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Q was on the Lakers, they had three different coaches

790
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: that year. Magic Johnson coached sixteen games that year.

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: Lea, Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember.

792
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: That five and eleven disaster coach Magic?

793
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he won his first like two or three.

794
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: I thought, didn't he I think? I thought, I thought,

795
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: like when Magic came back, you know, they had an

796
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: inspiration or maybe that was when he played.

797
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: It was when he maybe came back. But it doesn't matter.

798
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: He went five and eleven. He didn't last as long

799
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: as a coach, But so I guess Q had a

800
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: lot of turnover with his coaches here in LA. And

801
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: then he tears as acl after hanging on the rim.

802
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Mmm yeah, Tony Allen, yep. Dad comes and sees him

803
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: in the hospital. There's still obviously some conflict between the two.

804
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Monica shows up next with Flowers.

805
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: Hold on this, I was a little bit insane coming

806
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: from Q's dad, an NBA player. I get him trying

807
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 5: to talk him out of turning pro as a freshman

808
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty nine, which is something that did not happen.

809
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 5: There were like four underclassmen drafted in the entire nineteen

810
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: eighty nine draft. But then he's had what we assume

811
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 5: is at least a four year NBA career. At this point,

812
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: he blew out his ACL and his dad is still

813
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 5: trying to talk him out of playing basketball.

814
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

815
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: I was like, uh, I mean, probably they're set for life,

816
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: considering his dad was a professional athlete and he's been

817
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 5: playing in the league for four years. But I don't

818
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: think you need to be trying to impart your wisdom

819
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 5: to your son who is now a grown man who

820
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: is a successful professional athlete. He's one of the four

821
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty best in the league, and you're trying

822
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: to get him to quit when he rehabbing from an injury.

823
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 7: What kind of dad are you?

824
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 8: I guess dad was trying to impart. You know, obviously,

825
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 8: get get educated over and over and over again, because

826
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 8: his post playing career wasn't all that glamorous. He was

827
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 8: trying to trying to get a scouting job that wasn't

828
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 8: gonna pay him all that well, he wasn't set for life.

829
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 8: I get.

830
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: I guess that's a good point. That's a good point.

831
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: He was trying to work his way up to be

832
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: a VP of something for for an NBA team, a

833
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 5: decision maker.

834
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 7: Yeah. In fact, he was worried about it right all

835
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 7: the way back in the first quarter when he's saying,

836
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 7: I've only got a couple of years left and I gotta,

837
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 7: I gotta, I gotta find something to do right And

838
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know that he made a lot

839
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: of money, because it didn't seem like he was a

840
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: superstar on the team like he made He made money,

841
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 7: but he also lived in the same neighborhood as Monica's family,

842
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 7: and Monica's dad was a banker, also decent income, but

843
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 7: it seemed to me that they weren't super mega rich.

844
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 7: They're not the Lebron James of a twent you know

845
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 7: what I'm saying.

846
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Possibly you know what you know? Watching this, I did

847
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: like it, But yeah, it's about love. Yeah, it's a

848
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: little bit about basketball. This movie was a lot about

849
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: the relationship between kids and their parents.

850
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And then that's the thing that I like the

851
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: best about it.

852
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: Right between both Monica with her mother and of course

853
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: Q with his father and even his mom. Yeah, yeah,

854
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: it's that I'm with you. I thought that part. They

855
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: got that across in both of them, in both sort

856
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: of set pieces in this movie. So okay, so yeah,

857
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: after Dad there that like you said, I'm glad you

858
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: pointed that out.

859
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 8: Trait.

860
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: Monica shows up next with the flowers. She's in there,

861
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: so they haven't seen each other, they haven't stayed in

862
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: touch for all these years. And then Tyra bek shows up. Yeah,

863
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: fan strolls in. I guess she's a flight attendant, is

864
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: what they.

865
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 7: Say, right, Yeah, they say stewardess.

866
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 4: Stewardess, but she's a bit of a bit of a

867
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: fan gale too.

868
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: I think, just a bit of a groupie stewardess.

869
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: You know the way that she she comes in there,

870
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 4: and she's not at all jealous or even she doesn't

871
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: even see Monica at the start, and then she doesn't

872
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: then and then and then she sort of realizes who

873
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: she is and she goes, oh, she's He's told me

874
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: so much about you, but there's no jealousy or no like, oh,

875
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were coming. I'm really surprised to

876
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 4: just see you pop up in the hospital room here.

877
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 4: So it tells me that Tyra was just like she

878
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: just thought you know, an athlete, rich, rich guy. This

879
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: is my ticket, really, and I don't really care about

880
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: the rest of it. She would almost play the loyal like,

881
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: as long as I get access to his money, I

882
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: don't really care other relationships that he has.

883
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 7: Hm. I didn't take that at all. Actually, I thought

884
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 7: that she didn't notice her. Fine, she was, she was busy.

885
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 7: But the more important takeaway from me was that Quincy

886
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 7: never mentioned her other than to say I grew up

887
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 7: with her. She's the girl next door. This is if

888
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 7: he's talked about her, He's only tied to her in

889
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 7: the in the sense that this was the girl a

890
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 7: friend of mine who lived next door, not a lifelong

891
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 7: love love affair, you know what I mean.

892
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: But doesn't Tarra Banks say he's told me all about you?

893
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: Yes, but she also says, oh, you grew up together, right.

894
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 7: I feel like her. She would have been her nose

895
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 7: would have been out of a joint right away.

896
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 8: If she was like, oh.

897
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 7: Monica, you Monica from next door? Oh okay, yeah, it

898
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 7: would have got frosty very quickly. But she didn't know.

899
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 7: I'm I'm convinced she didn't know.

900
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 5: But on the other hand, they basically queue and Monica

901
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 5: get together spring of their senior year of high school,

902
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 5: and they're broken up by freshman year of college.

903
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be easy for.

904
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 5: Q to tell Tyra Banks, Yeah, we grew up next door,

905
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 5: We lived together our whole life. We dated a little

906
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 5: bit in college, but I haven't talked to her in

907
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 5: five years.

908
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, she's there too.

909
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Someone craps on Monica though, I'm sorry, someone craps on

910
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: Tyra Banks to Monica's Is it one of the moms

911
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: or someone like says something about yeah.

912
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 7: Monica, and Monica's mom says Monica basically says he could

913
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 7: do much better, and also basically calls her as stewardess

914
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 7: with you know, distand and I would say.

915
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's founded, even regardless of her occupation.

916
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 8: I think Lee was mentioning all those things. The other

917
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 8: thing that Tyra Banks did was flick that ring. Flicking

918
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 8: that ring.

919
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 7: Yes, we're engaged.

920
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: Do you see the rock on my finger?

921
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 6: You well?

922
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 8: Who she was? Sorry?

923
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 7: Who wet woman? Doesn't do that? I mean not to

924
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 7: be you know, if you get engaged, you're proud of

925
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 7: the ring, right, I mean I've seen that one hundred

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 7: thousand times well.

927
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 8: She's standing on the other side of her her injured

928
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 8: husband's body in the hospital Smanica says, oh, you're engaged,

929
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 8: and she throws out the ring. Yes, yes, yes, I am.

930
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 8: I don't know. I think it was a little bit much,

931
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 8: but the this was a powerful cast. I did not

932
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 8: see Tyra Banks.

933
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 7: Coming right then.

934
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 8: We didn't either. We didn't didn't even mention Regina Hall,

935
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 8: who's my sister. So now Lathan stacked, just stacked. Omar

936
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 8: Reps had a good.

937
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: So after that scene, after we're in the hospital, Yeah,

938
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: Tyra is put in here as the fiance, as an

939
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: obstacle for sure. And Monica gets a job at her

940
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: dad's bank while Q is you know, he's rehabbing. Que

941
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: and Monica eventually meet outside their house. I mean, yeah,

942
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: they're definitely not friends anymore. He didn't even send her

943
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: a wedding invitation. He's just like, oh, yeah, you can

944
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 2: come if you want. I mean, what that is, that's

945
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: the lowest of Low's. You can't do that. You got

946
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: to actually send the invitation. But we flash forward a

947
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: little bit more and the two of them are back

948
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: to talk and buy the windows. We get the iconic

949
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: line from Monica, I've loved you since I was eleven,

950
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: and that ship won't go away. Q is pissed. You know.

951
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: It's sort of like the how dare you I got

952
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: Tyra Banksman, like, come on, you can't do this Tommy,

953
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: and Monica challenges Que to a game of one on

954
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: one for his heart. Leave you ever played for such

955
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: high stakes?

956
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 6: Never? Never?

957
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: That was a little, a little over the top, that

958
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: scene where she basically just says, you know, yeah, all right,

959
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: if I win, you're not getting married. And he's got

960
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: a knee brace on as well at the time.

961
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take it through this one on one seat.

962
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: Q falls behind three to one very quickly, very very quickly.

963
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: Monica's got it going, but then Q gets the block

964
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: he scores, so you don't have to clear it. They're

965
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: playing by those rules, which.

966
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: Didn't like that. Didn't like that, you know, takea so

967
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: you kidding me? I don't got to get back out

968
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: to that. At least throw line.

969
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't mind it. You credit some defense. But yeah,

970
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: he gets the block, he scores. Then he decides to

971
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: take off the knee brace. He he swishes. You know,

972
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: a couple of quick quick jumpers. This thing's tied it three.

973
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: Then Monica takes her shirt off and she starts playing

974
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: some handsy defense. Q spins step back jumper. He's up

975
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: four to three. Oh I should have pointed out they're

976
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: playing to five even Monica, I think started she wanted

977
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: to play the ten, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh

978
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: now C's like, no, I got a knee brace on.

979
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: We're playing a five. Yeah, yeah, it's late. We're gonna

980
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: make you know, the cops are gonna come because we're

981
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: making noise. Someone some neighbors are gonna say, what's going

982
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: on out there? So it's four to three. Q. He

983
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: drives to win it, but again defense defense wins championships

984
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: and hearts. Maybe she swipes out it, pops it loose,

985
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have to take it out, so she scores four

986
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: to four, and then it's slow mo time. Monica appears

987
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 2: to blow by Quincy on the right, but she breaks

988
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: what appears to be an easy layup. Am I wrong?

989
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: Like she had that?

990
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was an easy layup undefended basically, did

991
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: she miss it?

992
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: But the pressure of the moment, yeah, no, the pressure

993
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: of the moment, you know, you know, she's playing for

994
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: ques life. She couldn't finish it off for three ye yeah,

995
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe she missed it.

996
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: So que gets it back. He just straight bodies her up,

997
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: puts her in the net and dunks it and he wins.

998
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: But but but but as she's walking away and you

999
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: think it's over, he drops the Hey double or nothing,

1000
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: and then we cut basically right to the end of

1001
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: this movie where she's playing in the w NBA for

1002
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: the sparks with right mcal on the back of her jersey.

1003
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: So they're married and there's Q with their little little

1004
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: babysitting courtside. You get the go mommy and fade to black.

1005
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: So so, I mean, is there an extra scene? Did

1006
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: they play again?

1007
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: There is overtime?

1008
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: You guys didn't stick around for the post credits scene

1009
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: their daughter throwing down a dunk in the driveway.

1010
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I didn't know this.

1011
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it. Literally, it's just like a kid's thing.

1012
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: She runs up and does a dunk. I guess they

1013
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: just happen to have that footage on him. They're like,

1014
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: we might as well throw it at the end of

1015
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 5: the credits.

1016
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: Stage for a sequel for a movie that was you know,

1017
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: two hours long, so on the longer side, even though

1018
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: it did sort of fly for me, it ended abrupt

1019
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: JD too abrupt or you were fine with how they

1020
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: ended this.

1021
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 7: I was fine with the ending. I was ready for

1022
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 7: it to be over. I mean I had some issues

1023
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 7: with the movie, particularly since we were just talking about it.

1024
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 7: This play for your heart kind of thing. I mean,

1025
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 7: that's the climax of the movie, right, I mean as

1026
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 7: a set piece, it doesn't really it doesn't work at all,

1027
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 7: at least the setup of it. Once they were actually

1028
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 7: playing for his heart, I was into it, but getting

1029
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 7: there was excruciating for me. And also when she was saying,

1030
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 7: I don't love basketball unless you're in my life kind

1031
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 7: of did not ring true to me really, because she

1032
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: met him, she was already a basketball all fiend, and

1033
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 7: then you know, she played her entire life and then

1034
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 7: she played for five years without him around. You know,

1035
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 7: I think she was just homesick in Barcelona. It just

1036
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 7: didn't seem authentic to me. But then once we were playing,

1037
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 7: you know, I will admit I got a little the

1038
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 7: clemped when he said uh, when he said double or nothing,

1039
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 7: and I was one hundred percent rooting for her to

1040
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 7: win that little one on one, and you know, it

1041
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 7: was a satisfying ending for me. But was it abrupt?

1042
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 7: I didn't. I didn't find it abrupt. The movie is

1043
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 7: about their love. It's a it's a it's a it's

1044
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 7: a lifelong romance movie, not really a basketball movie.

1045
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1046
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 5: They almost treat basketball like it's just any job, like

1047
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: this game could have been love and coding. And they're

1048
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: going head to head with the sickest app of the

1049
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 5: two thousands, you know, and we see little montages of like, ooh,

1050
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 5: check out these cool pop ups I can do, check

1051
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: out the cool pop ups I can do. It never

1052
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: really mattered who won the basketball games, except for obviously

1053
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 5: the one on for your heart scene. But we don't

1054
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 5: even see who wins the one on one for your

1055
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: heart scene. Show don't tell baby.

1056
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Do you think Q was still playing for the Lakers.

1057
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

1058
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: I thought I thought the injuries caught up with him

1059
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: and he was just now happy to support her.

1060
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 7: And he did say that he wanted to go back

1061
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 7: to school.

1062
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, that's true, true, true, true.

1063
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 8: I mean he did catch it, catch that little Lisa

1064
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 8: Leslie and Michael Cooper.

1065
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1066
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was interesting because Q wore number twenty

1067
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: one when he played for the Lakers, which of course

1068
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: was Michael Cooper's number. So I wonder if that was

1069
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: a little you know, hey, Mike, thanks for being in

1070
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 4: the movie.

1071
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 6: We'll wear your number.

1072
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: About how about Terry Cummings as the bartender.

1073
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was not expecting that.

1074
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Q and his dad r at the bar C's

1075
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: having an orange juice. Yeah, that's a Terry Cummings.

1076
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, right, it's sort of funny. He was familiar.

1077
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: I just once, I wish, just once that we heard

1078
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: Q's dad say, are you in good hand? Yeah? That actor,

1079
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: it's got the greatest voice.

1080
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 3: Oh he's awesome man.

1081
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little weird to see him in

1082
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: like sort of the you know, well as the athlete

1083
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: and like the playboy I guess, like getting the groupies.

1084
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: It was funny to see him as that sway.

1085
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always like an authority figure to me.

1086
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 5: He was the president on twenty four, so to me,

1087
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: he's kind of always the president. I would maybe vote

1088
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 5: for Dennis Haysbert just because he gives such a powerful speech,

1089
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: but also weird Omar Apps and Dennis Haysbert were in

1090
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Speaker 5: Major League two together as baseball players. Yeah, he was

1091
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: Pedro Serano and Omar Apps replaced the Wesley Snipes as

1092
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 5: Willie Mays Hayes. So I mean the chemistry undeniable between

1093
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 5: those two. You gotta put it in the same room.

1094
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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. All right, Well, we're gonna get to, you know,

1095
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Speaker 2: maybe some more random observations and will grade this movie.

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Speaker 2: So the critics score on Rotten Tomatoes for Love and

1138
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Beat score eighty three percent pretty good. The audience score,

1139
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: based off of about one hundred and eighty five thousand

1140
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: user readings, ninety five percent. Wow, people are high on

1141
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: this movie. Lee, it sound like you were not as

1142
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: high as maybe the critics or the audience. What's your

1143
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: sort of final thoughts on the movie and ultimately your

1144
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: your greed.

1145
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just didn't really think it was

1146
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: all that special or memorable. I mean, there was the

1147
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 4: love story throughout, but it was kind of a you know,

1148
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 4: weak love story.

1149
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: Really.

1150
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: It was like they sort of kept getting back together,

1151
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: like Forrest Gump. Like I said earlier, with Forrest and Jenny,

1152
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: it was kind of annoying that they still stayed together

1153
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: through all that. You'd think they would have moved on

1154
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: at some point she could do better, and Q was

1155
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 4: a bit of a dick, and in the end, I

1156
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 4: guess he was humbled. But I just sort of didn't

1157
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: really like it at all this movie. So I'm giving it.

1158
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: I'm giving it a one out of five, but I'm

1159
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: gonna bump that up. Oh, I'm going to bump that

1160
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: up to two out of five because I did like

1161
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 4: the fact that a charge was called for a game

1162
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 4: winning play. So I give two out of five just

1163
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: that's all. I'm not even gonna give it some sort

1164
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 4: of funky little rating system. It's just two points out

1165
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: of five.

1166
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 6: That's it.

1167
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, Lee, not a fan of this

1168
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: task one of you going next? Were you more of

1169
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: a family?

1170
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good call by you. Skeet's the juxtaposition

1171
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 8: a guy who hated it to a guy who was

1172
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 8: cool with it. I popped a genuine draft with my

1173
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 8: man Dennis, who ordered a genuine draft at the bar.

1174
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 8: Genuine draft for me and orange juice for my son.

1175
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 8: Because I enjoyed this movie. I think, you know, the relationship.

1176
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 8: It kept me involved, kept me compelled without the basketball

1177
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 8: being all that noteworthy. The basketball was totally secondary. And

1178
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 8: the fact I think that there were no friends, there

1179
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 8: weren't a lot of peripheral characters, was a good, good

1180
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 8: decision by the directors and the writers just to focus

1181
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 8: on two good actors and sonew Ethan and Omar Epps.

1182
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 8: You didn't need anybody else. I think, like Coach Carter,

1183
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 8: we had all these sort of these bit part actors

1184
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 8: coming in and coming out, and it was overplayed and

1185
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 8: it didn't really work out. But in this one, when

1186
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 8: those perperal characters came in, like Monica's mom and there's

1187
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 8: that powerful scene where she slaps Monica and and cues

1188
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 8: Dad to some extent, you know, those were done well

1189
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 8: to me, So you know it was it was moving

1190
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 8: enough for me that I I thought the two hours

1191
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 8: flew by pretty quickly and it kept me involved. So

1192
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 8: give me four out of five.

1193
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 6: Nks, four x.

1194
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: Fortifiable honks to the all right, I really thought you

1195
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: were going to grade it out of like orange juice

1196
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: or orange.

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I could have, but I didn't have one ready.

1198
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 8: Give me a four genuine drafts because I thought, I

1199
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Speaker 8: thought the unless anybody else has taken a genuine draft,

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 8: I had to free who who drank a genuine Draft

1201
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 8: is or is that is that the Miller product? Is

1202
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 8: that the Miller Genuine Draft their original product and it

1203
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 8: still lives on is MGD and they've.

1204
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: Just rebring it, I must think, though, but I don't.

1205
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 7: Know for sure.

1206
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, give me four out of five genuine drafts.

1207
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, Tas likes it.

1208
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 6: JD.

1209
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to you. I'm curious.

1210
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 7: Well, I did like this movie. I liked things about it,

1211
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 7: and there are things I didn't like about it. What

1212
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 7: I liked we mentioned. I loved the stuff with the parents.

1213
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 7: I was so much more interested in in Monica's relationship

1214
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 7: with her mother and uh Quincy's relationship with his father.

1215
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 7: Two parents who uh mean, well like there I would

1216
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 7: go so far as to say they are good caring

1217
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 7: parents on one hand. But Quincy's father is he made

1218
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 7: all sorts of mistakes and he lied to his son,

1219
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 7: which you know, is that Is that a reason not

1220
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 7: to talk to your father for five years as you're

1221
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 7: basically an adult? I don't think so. So I didn't

1222
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 7: find that particularly believable, right, But more importantly, Monica's relationship

1223
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: with her mother, who that scene is the best scene

1224
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 7: in the movie. When they're in the kitchen and they're

1225
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 7: having their confrontation to me, the mother is basically saying, hey,

1226
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 7: I sacrificed everything for you, and I want to you know,

1227
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 7: I made sure that I was there for to provide

1228
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 7: meals and to provide whatever else that a mother needs

1229
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 7: to provide. But she was more interested in Monica being

1230
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 7: pretty and being That's when she really really took an

1231
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 7: interest in her. And she was not interested in the

1232
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 7: basketball at all, but Monica needed her to be interested

1233
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 7: in the basketball, you know what I mean. So it

1234
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 7: was just a heartbreaking part of the story for me,

1235
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 7: just that they just could not connect and they would

1236
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 7: never connect that way. The earlier on in the second quarter,

1237
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 7: when she's returning from the dance and her mother finally

1238
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 7: got to see her, her little girl dressed up in

1239
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 7: in a dress and makeup and all that. Rather than

1240
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 7: go through the front door, she goes and climbs in

1241
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 7: through her bedroom windows, just so she doesn't have to

1242
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 7: deal with her mom, you know, futsing all over her

1243
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 7: and asking her how was the dance blah blah blah.

1244
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 7: I mean, that was her mother's Super Bowl, right, But

1245
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 7: she denied her of that and maybe perhaps rightly so,

1246
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 7: because hey, mom, go to some basketball games. Take an

1247
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 7: interest in what your daughter is actually interested in. So

1248
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 7: that part of the story I really loved. And ultimately

1249
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 7: it's her that says, hey, go fight for your man,

1250
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 7: which you know is which was a sweet moment as well.

1251
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 7: What I didn't like about the movie was I think

1252
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 7: I'm in the minority here, but I did not think

1253
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 7: that the two leads had I didn't find that they

1254
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 7: had chemistry.

1255
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: Really, I kind of agree.

1256
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: I never felt so much that Q really really liked Monica.

1257
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was the big hang up for me.

1258
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 5: It was like, I thought, clearly she was into him,

1259
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: but maybe not so much the other way around until

1260
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 5: you know, they're playing basketball there at the very end.

1261
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 5: But he also did rattle off her offensive board stats.

1262
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: He's paying attention.

1263
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean exactly, but that's what a true friend

1264
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 7: would do. But you know, a lifelong lover. I wasn't

1265
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 7: buying it. In fact, I think that they should have

1266
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 7: in this. You know, this is twenty years ago, and

1267
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 7: this is Gina price Bythewood's first feature film. So I'm

1268
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 7: just gonna sit here and tell her what she should

1269
01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 7: have done. She should have cast Gabriela Union as Monica

1270
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 7: simply because I thought that they there's one little dance

1271
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 7: that they have and they're actually supposed to be looking

1272
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 7: across each other, you know, I want to be your

1273
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 7: man whatever that the song was playing. But I felt

1274
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 7: that Quincy and Shawnie had more chemistry in that one

1275
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 7: shot than the other two had in the entire movie.

1276
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 7: And also, Gabrielle Union played basketball. She I read the

1277
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 7: oral history of the making of this movie, and she

1278
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: was like, she didn't have very much acting experience, but

1279
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 7: she was awesome in the movie. And obviously, Hindsight is

1280
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 7: twenty twenty. She's obviously a great actor. But Sonal what's

1281
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 7: her name, sonaw Lathan, she had never played basketball in

1282
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 7: her life, So how much time did they spend teaching

1283
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 7: her how to play basketball when you had a perfectly

1284
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 7: good basketball player who was actually a point guard her

1285
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 7: entire life. It's much easier to teach Gabrielle Union how

1286
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 7: to act than it would be to teach Senna how

1287
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 7: to play basketball, in my opinion, And they spent a

1288
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: lot of energy on that, and I think it ended

1289
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 7: up on the screen that way.

1290
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 8: I think there was a body double it feels like

1291
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 8: first not Lathan, and those basketball scenes, like there's something

1292
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 8: different about her. I don't know if it was just

1293
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 8: lighting was different, but yeah, there's something funky in those

1294
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 8: basketball that's possible.

1295
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 7: I mean, there was a three month casting process and

1296
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 7: she it was basically between her and another basketball player

1297
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 7: who couldn't act, you know.

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Speaker 8: So that being said, I don't think the basketball. He

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 8: didn't really have to play that much basketball in this movie.

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Speaker 7: I know, but they spent a lot of time she

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 7: was auditioning people on a basketball court, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: So I think they spent way too much time teaching

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 7: a person who didn't know how to play basketball how

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 7: to play basketball. But when even she herself said that,

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 7: the director said, you know, am I making a basketball

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01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 7: movie or a love story? I'm making a love story.

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Speaker 7: So I'm going with the one who doesn't who doesn't

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 7: play basketball, fair enough. But you could have had both.

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01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 7: You could have had Gabrielle Union. But that's you know,

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 7: that's that's my two cents. I also found that the

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01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 7: character Monica was a little bit of a Mary Sue

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01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 7: in that Gina Price bythewood putting herself into that character

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: She's even said that it's semi autobout biographical. She ran

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01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 7: track in college while she was going to film school,

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 7: and nothing really, nothing really happens to her. She doesn't

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01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 7: really make any mistakes. Everything that's put in front of

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01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 7: her is because people are just being total assholes to her.

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Speaker 7: And fair enough. I mean there's lots of there's lots

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 7: of movies like that, but it just it just made

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01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 7: it less believable. Like Quincy blowing his life up like

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01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 7: that because his father lied to him, was just did

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01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 7: not ring true to me. It was just like, hey, go,

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01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 7: I have a curf. You know you should have stayed

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 7: with me, and that's that's why you end the relationship.

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 7: It's just there's so many moments like that that I

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01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 7: just didn't I didn't believe. So so what are you

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 7: grading it? I'm grading it. Hmm. I'm gonna give it

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Speaker 7: two and a half bobbleheads out of five. Okay, head,

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 7: I think it's a good movie. I mean I was

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 7: into it. All that criticism, I just said, I still

1331
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 7: enjoyed the movie and I was into it, and when

1332
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 7: they got together in the end, I was happy. So

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 7: what else do you want from a romance.

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so two and a half out of five, Trey,

1335
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: what about You?

1336
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: I really liked it.

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 5: Loving basketball was a blind spot in the basketball.

1338
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: Can in for me.

1339
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 5: But I probably wouldn't have ever turned it on since

1340
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 5: it's a twenty year old movie, and you know, I'm

1341
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 5: not usually picking out romances, but given the situation, was

1342
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 5: the perfect time to watch it, and I'm glad we

1343
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 5: did because it's nice to see a sports movie that

1344
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 5: is basically from a woman's point of view.

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01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 3: That's pretty unusual.

1346
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: I loved the scenes with their parents, and I mean,

1347
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 5: I do think some of the things with Q were

1348
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 5: a little unearned, but he was impulsive from the very beginning.

1349
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: I mean, he pushes a girl down twice in the

1350
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: first five minutes of the movie. You hear, you know,

1351
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 5: Dennis Haysbert laying pipe through the through uh.

1352
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: Through the wall.

1353
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 5: The guy's got an interesting view of what it means

1354
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 5: to be a man, There's no doubt about it, and

1355
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: he's dealing with that throughout the entirety of the movie.

1356
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 5: That being said, it's a I would say it's more

1357
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 5: of a romance than a sports movie. For a sports

1358
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 5: romance movie, but I was here for it. I also

1359
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 5: love when you get the title of the movie during

1360
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 5: the movie. And so since they say love and basketball twice,

1361
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 5: I'm giving this two. All's fair in love and Basketball's up? Okay, okay,

1362
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 5: And I will be challenging my wife to a game

1363
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 5: of strip one on one tonight.

1364
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: Oh your little nets on the patio so oh yeah.

1365
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: Well hope we get out there before cure few.

1366
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you guys touched on a lot of things already,

1367
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: like I said early, and you brought it up again, JD.

1368
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: I really did, Like I was shocked how much I

1369
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: enjoyed the dynamic and the struggle between the kids and

1370
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: the parents, and in both of them, in Q with

1371
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: his dad and then Monica with her mom, I thought

1372
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: that was great. I thought they were very believable. Now,

1373
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: whether or not there was yeah a body double for

1374
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: some of these basketball scenes, like you were saying, task

1375
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: for Monica, I couldn't tell. So if they did, it

1376
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: was well done. And if they didn't, then I thought

1377
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: she was a somewhat believable basketball player. And so you know,

1378
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: kudos to that. There wasn't a ton a ton of

1379
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: basketball scenes, especially games in this especially women games like

1380
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: I said it would go to the jump ball and

1381
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: then you'd be at the end of the game or

1382
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 2: after it. But I was shocked. I thought this movie

1383
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: was gonna suck. I really did. I. I had never

1384
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: watched it, obviously, it had heard about it, and I

1385
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: was just like, this is gonna be horrible. And I

1386
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: was shocked how much I liked it, pleasantly surprised at

1387
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: the very least, and for how long it was I

1388
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: thought it. I did think it moved. And I wasn't

1389
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: looking at the clock and going, oh my god, we're

1390
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 2: only in the second quarter. We're only in nineteen eighty

1391
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 2: eight and there's an hour twenty to go. I didn't

1392
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: really do that. I was in. I was invested in

1393
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: the characters, and you know that that idea of childhood

1394
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: love and really being friends, but that romantic chemistry and yeah,

1395
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: I get you, guys, I hear it, I think, And

1396
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: maybe it was done on purpose that it wasn't. It

1397
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: didn't appear to be coming back from Q as much

1398
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: to her, as much as Monica was really in love

1399
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: with him from early on. So I was in. I'm

1400
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: giving this four out of five window panes because there

1401
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: was so much talk through window panes. I only wish

1402
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: we got that song. I wish we got the Who's

1403
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: that Creeping in? They should have dropped that once in

1404
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: this movie, and the soundtrack helped it to that. Bumps

1405
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: it up a little bit. So four to five window

1406
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: panes for me. You know, we didn't hate it. It

1407
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: wasn't the worst movie. I don't think we've watched in

1408
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: film session.

1409
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 6: Oh definitely, it's the worst.

1410
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: Everybody was the most fun to talk about, though, I.

1411
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 6: Don't know, I don't know.

1412
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, we got to pick another movie here. We gotta

1413
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: pick another movie for film sessions. So if you have suggestions,

1414
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: tweet at us at no Dunks and cashtag no Dunks

1415
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: on Twitter, or email your suggestions in and why we

1416
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: should watch it. Get your questions and comments in all

1417
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: week long for our beach stepping Well we'll drop that

1418
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: some point this week No dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Yeah,

1419
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: Clipper bros. Take us home.

1420
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1421
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1422
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 8: Thanks for joining us, and remember all's fair in loving basketball.

1423
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: Embrace the day people.

1424
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: You could stay every day.

1425
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: Than be happy, every man.

1426
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 7: It's been so long but you're the fun of.

1427
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 6: Playing for.

1428
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 8: It's happened already.

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be grippy.