1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Riley and this is Dakota, your favorite 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime hosts, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep the show alive. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: My biosister tracked me and now wanted to be a 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: part of my life. What is she? The CIA. Here's 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: the issue. I was adopted as a baby. I twenty 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: six female. Have no clue what happened to anyone in 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: that family, as I have never had a desire to 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: look into my past. Mom fifty nine female, and Dad 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: sixty three male, are wonderful and giving people. I have 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: a sister, Elizabeth, who is my twin quote unquote. We 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: aren't related by blood, but are the same age. We 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: were both adopted, so we had that to bond over. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Dramaly and if you 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: want to dismit your own stories, go to the r 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime severed it. I'm Sophia and I'm Savannah, 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: and we're here to give good advice Kooflee, But we 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do. In the comments, 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: and Opisa. I met the love of my life, Jake 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: thirty mail. We've been together for four years. We're getting 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: married in December. I have already planned out the guest list. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: No kids will be there, and I'm super excited. I 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: have never really had the urge to look for my 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: bio siblings. I guess at this point it wouldn't really 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: be their true sibling emotionally because we have lived different lives. 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: Since I have medical records and grew up without them, 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: I never felt the need to meet them. But my biosister, 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: Janis twenty seven female, tracked me down about a month ago. 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: She wrote me on Facebook in July, but I didn't 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: check my other folder until September. It was a really 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: long letter that talked about who she was, how she 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: tracked me down and said she was looking for the 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: rest of the siblings. She said she really wanted to 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: connect with the rest of us because she needed to 37 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: find her past. I don't know what to think, but 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: her story added up. She had some pictures and since 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: I was a pretty ugly baby, it's obviously us together 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: as doddlers. She also knew some details. She could be 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: a fake, but I didn't think it was. I showed 42 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: Mom and Dad and they said it checked out. I've 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: been talking for a few weeks now. She has called 44 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: me twice a week, texting me every day. She's nice, 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: but I have been losing interest. She's just some stranger 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: to me. Emotionally, I find it very hard to recognize 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: this is someone I should care about on some deep level, shouldn't. 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we're super close sisters. I don't get 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: the same excitement talking to her that I do with Elizabeth. 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: She has two kids who she talks about a lot. 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: She tells me she showed them my picture and they've 52 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: been showing people Auntie Emily. She also told me she 53 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: took off time in December for the wedding. She just 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: might need to stay with me because she's low on cash. 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Yay on cash. Feels like maybe that's the reason she 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: came to you. 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Hmmmm, not good. 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Not good. 59 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: And there's the first red flag. We got it. 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: I was waiting for it. I know this makes me 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: sound nasty and ungrateful. She's super into meeting me, said, 62 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: I am the most normal sibling, and she's so excited 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: to have someone to share her life with. She sounds 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: really lonely. I know she's built this up in her 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: head as being the best thing to happen to her 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: in forever, but she isn't someone I would have in 67 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: my life if she didn't have some connection to my past. 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: Every time we talk, she goes on and on, and 69 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm just counting down the minutes. I have tried to 70 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: work it away to be there for her, but I 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: can't bring myself to truly care. I don't wish her ill, 72 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 2: but she's just another stranger to me. She isn't family emotionally. 73 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: I know I could try to form the bond, but 74 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: at this point, I don't see the point. At twenty six, 75 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: I have pretty much established the sort of people I 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: want in my life. She just has views I find strange, 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: is rude in ways I find annoying, and despite having 78 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: biological nieces, I just don't feel like they're anything with 79 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: someone else's kid. Does this make me a bad person? 80 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: Am I horrid? I feel guilty as heck, because I 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: can tell she wants this so bad. Even then, even 82 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: if we did become friends, she would never be my 83 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: sister because being a sister means a lot more than 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: genetics to me, I'm not sure how to tell her, Hey, 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk anymore. I've talked with my 86 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: significant other and he says, if I want her out 87 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: of my life, then I just need to handle it. 88 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: He doesn't really like her that much. They've talked, but 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: he says she puts a lot of pressure on me 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: to be close to her when this stuff doesn't always 91 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: even work. Any advice would be so appreciated, and we've 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: got relevant comments, But what do you think? 93 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't think that you're like the a hole 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: in this opio because, like, if you don't want a relationship, 95 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: then you don't want a relationship. Like it's cool that 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: she reached down, and it's cool that she wants one, 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, and she's discovering her past and one not 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: like she can't force. 99 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: That on you. No, she can't. 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: She cannot force you to feel like have this connection 101 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: of blood sisters or something like, I don't know. You 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: can't force someone to feel a specific way towards someone, 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: especially if you know you don't care to know your past. 104 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: And that's that's okay. You don't have to, you know, 105 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: that's your boundary. 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: So she just kind of needs to get it. 107 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: I agree, and she's annoying apparently. Yeah, that's her worst crime. 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: I feel like, in terms of how do we go 109 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: about this, you just sit her down, go get coffee 110 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: and say, hey, I'm really appreciative that you reached out 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: to me. I don't think I'm ready for the type 112 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: of relationship you want. And then I don't know where 113 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: to go. 114 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: From there, and then you send her confetti in the 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: mail spring Heel Jill. 116 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Says, wait, did she invite herself to your wedding? What 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: that was a crazy thing that she did? Ohpi says, 118 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: she did invite herself and her two kids to my 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: wedding and to stay with me while I have everything 120 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: else going on. I'm not sure what she thought was 121 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: going to happen. I was going to be jolly about 122 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: someone being in my home with kids while I was 123 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: getting ready for my wedding and a honeymoon. And we've 124 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: got an update four days later. In the last few days, 125 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: I've done a lot of thinking. The short of the 126 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: long I have decided not to have her in my 127 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: life anymore. What happened? Janis called me last night. I 128 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: tried to be polite, but she went into a big, 129 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: long rave about all the plans she had for when 130 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: she visited me, she brought up the wedding. Would there 131 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: be time to see a long list of local places together? 132 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: Ohp is, I'm only planning a wedding. She doesn't have 133 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: time to be a tour guide. This is crazy. Did 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: she have a plus one? No, you don't even have 135 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: a one. Let them in a plus Yeah? What was 136 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: the dinner options? Nothing for you? She already bought the 137 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: girls dresses in blue with baskets so they could be 138 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: flower girls with the rest of the children. You wanted 139 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: to see her date? And who would watch the girls 140 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: while we were eating dinner? You at home? She was 141 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: looking forward to meeting our family members in December. She 142 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: needed to know what date she should arrive. She would 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: need to stay with me because she spent all her 144 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: extra cash on your wedding. I was pretty shocked because 145 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: she had done all this without even confirming she was invited. 146 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: Not sure what made me ask, but I asked her 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: if she really was in contact with the rest of 148 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: the siblings. She told me some very concerning things. She 149 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: had been in contact with two of them, a sister 150 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: and a brother. She said they tried to talk to her, 151 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: but then cut off contact. They were actually doing really well, 152 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: even though they were in foster care until they aged out. 153 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: They had their own kids, were married, had decent jobs. 154 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: They had refused to introduce her to their kids and 155 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: got mad. She wanted to know more details about their 156 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: lives with our parents. The rest of the siblings turned 157 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: down contact with her. The moment she wrote them, she said, 158 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: I was the longest communication she had with someone in 159 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 2: a long time. You just wanted to meet me so badly. 160 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: She had spent more money than she had to look nice. 161 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: She wanted me to help her and for her girls 162 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: to finally have a good family. I just told her 163 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: the truth. You have been coming on too quickly. I'm 164 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: a bit concerned because you're trying to invite yourself to 165 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: my wedding. You have never met. We're pretty much strangers. 166 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable having you come stand my home before, after, 167 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: or during the wedding. I have a sister and parents. 168 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: I was raised with them. I do not view any 169 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: of the siblings as actual family members. I'm not their 170 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: aunt in anything but genetics, and do not intend to 171 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: recognize them as my nieces. If I have nibblings. They 172 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: will be when Elizabeth has children. I would like to 173 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: cut contact. I'm sorry you've been hurt, but I do 174 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: not have the energy to help you come these issues. 175 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about people I don't know, mistreatment, 176 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't remember or be part of any reunion stories. 177 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: I would prefer to focus on my own family. But 178 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: there is a little bit left to the story, any 179 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: final thoughts. 180 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: I feel bad me too. It's just she's too much. 181 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: She came on too quickly, she expected a lot. 182 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just. 183 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Like, dude, I got a wedding to worry about. I 184 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: don't want to rekindle or whatever. 185 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it's such more timing for repe and I feel. 186 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: Like even the timing, like even if they weren't getting 187 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: married or whatever, like just to like invite yourself over 188 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: and do all this. 189 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: It's just went too much. I don't know you like, 190 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's weird. Yeah, and inviting your two 191 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: kids as well, it's too much. Go away, leave us alone. 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I like the message that you said it. 193 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: I think like it's it was very stern. 194 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that it's mean. 195 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: People could take it as mean, but I just think 196 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: it was very much like, Okay, yeah, this is this 197 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: is what has happened. This is how I feel, and 198 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: this is how I like. This is my solution, this 199 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: is how to proceed. You know, she can't take it 200 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: the wrong way. 201 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: I don't think Jane has told me she didn't have 202 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: anyone else. I was the last member of her family. 203 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: I reminded her that her children were her family and 204 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: she should focus on making friendships. I hung up on her. 205 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: She has tried calling back multiple times. I blocked her 206 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: on everything I could think of. I'm gonna have my 207 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: personal number changed in the next few days. I feel 208 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: relieved this is done. With final comments, Plastic Venus says, 209 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: you did the right thing for both of you. The 210 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: fact that her other siblings cut off contact shows that 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: this lack of boundaries is a broader problem and eventually 212 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: it would have dragged you down. Whilst it's sad that 213 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: she's in this position, she's not your responsibility and in 214 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: fact is leaning dangerously close to being a liability. Hopefully 215 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: she backs off and leaves you alone. Opie says, I 216 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: do as well. Jake, my asso doesn't think she will. 217 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: We have a security ready for her showing up, and 218 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: my family is aware of everything, and I've blocked her 219 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: as well, and there we go. All good news. Yeah, 220 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: I would be worried that she would show up at 221 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: the wedding and invited. If you have security, then we're 222 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: all good. I don't know. She just seems like a sad, 223 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: lonely girl. 224 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't have anyone and is just reaching out for 225 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: any just strand of family or strand of something like, 226 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: just to find something. But it's like, girl, good, you 227 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: can therapist. 228 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's reach out to a therapist first. Yeah, 229 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: I think that would be great. 230 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: Then trying to confide and basically strangers. 231 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story. And we've got 232 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: another one coming right up. I promoted my sister's ex 233 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: after they broke up, and it was not pretty. He's 234 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: just too good at his jobs. This I forty mail. 235 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: Am in a weird situation here. My sister, Sarah thirty 236 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: four female, had been with Josh for three years. I 237 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: own a business. Without getting too specific, I have eight 238 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: employees right now, so fairly small. I hired Josh despite 239 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: him having less experience than typical for a new hire. 240 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: Originally as a favorite to Sarah, but he was a 241 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: natural fit from day one. He's been a huge tributor. 242 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Representative Map seven sixty 243 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: seven and if you want to submit your own stories, 244 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay story Times subreddit. As 245 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: Opie says, all was fun and dandy until about three 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: months ago, it came out that Josh had been sleeping 247 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: with Sarah's best friend, Ashley. 248 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: Ashley is now pregnant. 249 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: Obviously, Sarah left him is now living with our parents 250 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: in the house I pay for. He is now engaged 251 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: to Ashley and living with her. I don't see this lasting. 252 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: While this was happening, I tried to remain professional with Josh. 253 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: While I think he's a filthtastic guy, technically. 254 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: Personal stuff shouldn't be used against him. 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: At work, one of my longest employees, unfortunately, has had 256 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: some major health complications come up and he unofficially retired, 257 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: keeping him on the books for insurance, but he won't 258 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: be working for a while. I hate to say it, 259 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: but Josh really stepped up in his absence. He's been 260 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: incredibly essential in keeping us running and successful now more 261 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: than ever before. 262 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Now that it's. 263 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Become clear that my other employee won't be coming back 264 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: anytime soon. I needed to replace him. Josh is the 265 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: natural candidate, and all my other employees told me to 266 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: promote him, so I gave it to him with about 267 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: a fifty percent raise. 268 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: Actually, he said, I'm not only going to promote you, 269 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: but also he has a little more money. Fifty percent 270 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: more is crazy, pretty insane. Wow, did we find out 271 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: why they broke up again? 272 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: He was sleeping with their best friend and got her 273 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: pregnant and is now engaged to her best friend. 274 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: That was a bad move. I don't know. It's hard 275 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: because he's. 276 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: Helping your business. Yeah, and like business and social are 277 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: very different. But it is a weird situation you've been 278 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: put in if and I know you didn't put yourself there, but. 279 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I feel like if I were in 280 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: this situation, my brother would not be doing that. Yeah, 281 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: that is like biggest brother betrayal. You can do. Yeah, 282 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: raise no, no, no, promotion raise all because he's I don't know, 283 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: I guess I'll need it for that kid. He's gonna 284 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: have what the person before. 285 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: Him was making, and he's been flourishing in it. Awkward 286 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: part about that is Sarah just found out he was 287 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 3: promoted from a mutual friend and is livid with me 288 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: for she gave me an earful as did my parents. 289 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: And now I'm feeling pretty conflicted. I feel like personal 290 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: life and professionals should be treated separately, but my family 291 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: is saying this is different any advice and there is 292 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: an edit. 293 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, Yes, this might have been the 294 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: right move professionally, but your family's not gonna like you 295 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: for it. And sometimes you kind of have to like 296 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: make choices like that in life. Do you want your 297 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: professional life to you know, continue upwards or do you 298 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: want to make your family happy? And that's literally genuinely 299 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: the question you have to ask yourself. 300 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and plus like, I don't know because it's also 301 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: her business, so like and he's helped significantly his OPC guy, 302 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it helps with his business. You could hire someone, 303 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: but they're not going to be as you know, experienced 304 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: or maybe even successful as this person because they've been 305 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: there for a while and just know how to do it. Absolutely, 306 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: it's like the obvious choice, but they also made a 307 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: horrible move towards your family. 308 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I genuinely think you are not in the wrong from 309 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: a professional standpoint. Yeah, but it doesn't mean your family 310 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: has to like you for it. It is hard of you. 311 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: Uh well, there is an edit. They were never married 312 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: or engaged, just living together, no kids together. I am 313 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: not firing anyone. He hasn't broke any work roles and 314 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: that would screw over everyone else who works for me. 315 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: We do profit sharing, and that would require turning down 316 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: jobs due to not having bandwidth to take them on. 317 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: It would also require more hours from anyone. I'm not 318 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: going to do that as that wouldn't help anybody. People 319 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: keep saying just hire someone else, but we have a 320 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: national worker shortage and this is a specialized position. Even 321 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: if the perfect candidate came in, it would take at 322 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: least six months to get them to speed, and that's 323 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: with a candidate with ample experience. We have had open 324 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: jobs for our entry level roles that we train for 325 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: four months that aren't getting filled. Pay starts at fifty k. 326 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: We just haven't had qualified workers applying who are willing 327 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: to do the work. It is not so simple. Timeline 328 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: goes like two years ago, hires Josh day one old 329 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: employee takes short leave, Josh feels in temporarily at first. 330 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: A couple weeks later this all comes out. Josh is 331 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: still filling in and doing great. Three weeks later, old 332 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: employee shares he will not be coming back due to 333 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: health reasons. All my other employees tell me how great 334 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: Josh is doing and how much they like working for him. 335 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: Business is booming, and they tell me how much they 336 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: think Josh deserves the promotion. Officially, two weeks later, I 337 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: have to make a decision, so I give him the 338 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: promotion purely for performance reasons. A couple weeks after that, 339 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: Sarah finds out and that was in the last week. 340 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: So he had only been working for a couple weeks 341 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: with you before you gave him the promotion. 342 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: But he was filling in, so technically you could replace him, 343 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: but you're just not getting people to come in. Yeah, 344 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: so and that is hard, Like it's hard to find 345 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: a replacement, especially in like specific work. I don't know 346 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: exactly what you do, ope, but it seems like how 347 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: you're describing it, it's like very specifically specific work that 348 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: has to do with technical things. It seems so like 349 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: if you're not in it, it's hard to explain. But 350 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: also you said that the perfect candidate were to come in, 351 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: it would take them six months. But it didn't take 352 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: Josh that much and he had no experience. Yeah, because 353 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, he didn't have any experience, but it 354 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: was like whatever, he'll learn, and he did learn and 355 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: now he's doing great. 356 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: So I feel like I feel like someone else could 357 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: do it. 358 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Someone else could do it, it's just no one has 359 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: come forward to do it. It is hard because obviously 360 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: it's your business. You don't want it to just be 361 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: destroyed just because this guy screwed your sister over. 362 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. Oh, this is such a puzzle. The 363 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: thing is like, again, you gotta choose right here between 364 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: your business and your family. 365 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were to fire Josh, you would have 366 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: to fill that position. 367 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: If you couldn't fill that position. 368 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: You're you know, your employees are all going to be overworked. 369 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: They're probably to be mad because not only did you 370 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: lose one employee, you're now losing two employees out of 371 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: the eight that you have, So now you only have 372 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: six employees trying to do an eight person job. Everyone's 373 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: gonna be like overworked, tired, exhausted, frustrated, angry, whatever, and 374 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: it's not like he's doing a bad job either. He 375 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: just did bad things outside. It's just a bad person. Yeah, 376 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: there's a difference. So it's this is hard. This is hard, 377 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: curd underscore one. Let me ask you a hypothetical question. 378 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: If Josh cheated with your wife or girlfriend being an 379 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: exemplary employee at the same time. 380 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: What would you do? 381 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: Edit my take, You have every right to put your 382 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: business above your sister, but she has every right to 383 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: feel portrayed by you. But spare us that bs about 384 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: supporting her. 385 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: Completely agree with that comment. Completely agree with that comment 386 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: because because this is not supporting her, this is you 387 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: supporting your business. Yeah, which you are allowed to do. 388 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: But just admit that, Yeah, admit that it's at the 389 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: expense of your sister. 390 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, sorry, sis, but business is booming and I cannot 391 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: just fire another person. 392 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, And I'm also planning on hiring your ex boyfriend's 393 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: a fair child. We gonna raise him up. 394 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: To opie response. 395 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: Hmm, that really makes me think. He sounds like that's 396 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: such a business like businessman. Response. That really makes me think. 397 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna think about that while I keep doing what 398 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing. 399 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 3: Give me two to five business days. I will think 400 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: about this and send it in an email titled. 401 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: My decision that really made me think? That really made 402 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: me my final decision SIS or work. 403 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: I feel like I wouldn't be able to be objective 404 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: in that situation, so I would make the emotional decision 405 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: to fire him. I don't know if that would actually 406 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: be an ethical business decision, though being a little more 407 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: removed from the situation, it's easier to be objective. Light 408 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: Observer says Josh has demonstrated poor ethics as a person, 409 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: it should make you at least question his ethics when 410 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: it comes to your business as well. Opie response. Thing is, 411 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: despite how bad of a boyfriend he was, he's never 412 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: messed up at work. I worry about the message it 413 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: sends to the rest of the team that personal life 414 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: problems endanger your job. I've had a lot of employees 415 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: over the years have relationships and marriages fail at times. Realistically, 416 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: some have probably cheated, But I've never disciplined someone for 417 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: how they handle their personal relationships. 418 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's not about that. It's about 419 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: the fact that this guy cheated on your sister weeks 420 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: after you promote him, after he already does, so he starts, 421 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: then a couple of weeks later cheats on your sister. 422 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: Then a couple of weeks later, you promote him. That's 423 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: the issue here, that's the issue, and it has nothing 424 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: to do with Oh I fire everyone who cheats on someone. See. 425 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: The thing is, if the promotion wasn't up for grabs, 426 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: like say, this guy didn't get sick or whatever, and 427 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have he wouldn't have promoted him. So he 428 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: have gotten the promotion or would he have just gotten fired? 429 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? What would you have done if that guy hadn't left? Yeah, 430 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: it just looks bad. 431 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: The promotion looks really bad after all of that happened. Yep, 432 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: that just seems wrong to me. If I had just 433 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 3: hired him, it'd be one thing. But he's worked for 434 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: me for two years without. 435 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: Okay two years? 436 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: That did we not read the timeline right? 437 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't understand the timeline? 438 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Then? 439 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the timeline. 440 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: Go back in time. Oh, okay, two years ago, hires 441 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: Josh oh old employee takes short leave. 442 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: It is a couple of weeks into his We just 443 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: didn't realize how long it had been. But a couple 444 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: of weeks into working there, he cheats on Opie's sister, so. 445 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: He hires him day one. He already is like taking 446 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: this position, yes, and then a couple weeks later finds 447 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: out he's cheating, and then three weeks after that the 448 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: old employees like can't come back, and so then he's like, 449 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: two weeks later, I'm going to promote him. 450 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing to me, looking back at the timeline. 451 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: We went back in time, we checked the facts. He 452 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: didn't know that the guy was leaving until after Josh 453 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: had already cheated, right, Yes, so it wasn't even an issue. 454 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: You kept him on after the fact. That's kind of 455 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: a crazy thing to me. That's true. Yeah, I problem, 456 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe you couldn't have legally done that, but 457 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: like you haven't said that, you haven't told us. I 458 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: don't know you would have to like fire him with 459 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: cause or whatever. So that feels like to me, that's 460 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: not an issue. 461 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 3: I also didn't think of it like legally how it 462 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 3: could go because you can't just fire someone with no cause. Yeah, so, 463 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: or you can literally get sued and blah blah blah 464 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: all that. 465 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: But op hasn't said that's an issue. So I wonder 466 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: if he can do that, and he just didn't want to. 467 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: Turbulent being fifty two twelve says, come on, dude, if 468 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: your sister employed someone. 469 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: Who your wife cheated with, you would feel betrayed. You're 470 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: willing to be unethical for yourself, but not for your sister. 471 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: Your argument is personal versus professional life doesn't stand up. 472 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: You're using it as a crutch. And why exactly are 473 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: you not emotional here? Your little sister got extremely hurt 474 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: by someone. It's crazy you're so objective. My take is 475 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: that you're her big brother. You're supposed to protect her 476 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: and be in her corner. If someone had cheated on me, 477 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: I think it would be difficult to keep my brothers 478 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: from not beating him to a pulp, let alone giving 479 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: the dude promotions and being all buddy buddy with him. 480 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, how are you treating him while he's in office? 481 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? 482 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: You know, because if you're giving a promotion that feels 483 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: like you're working fairly close with him, are you? Are 484 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: you been all buddy buddy? Are you like, hey, Josh 485 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: my guy? Ah? Not a great day from the joshure. 486 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Excellent work in all areas of your life, Josh, especially 487 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: with my sister. Screw don't like my sister. And also 488 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: his whole spiel about being objective feels untrue. I think 489 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: he just cares more. I think like the emotional thing 490 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: for him is that he cares more about his business. 491 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: Which is okay, you're allowed to care about your business 492 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: like that. That's where your money's coming from, that's where 493 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: you know, that's where you're banking a living. 494 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: Just be honest about it. It's just at the expense 495 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: of your sister. 496 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: You're telling me there's not one person out there that 497 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: could do his job. There's not one person you could 498 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: bring in and train. Maybe inconvenient in the short term, 499 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: but more inconvenient in the long term to have a 500 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: crappy relationship with your sister because of some dude. As 501 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: for the legal aspect, do what big businesses do. Treat 502 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 3: him crappy enough that he leaves. 503 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: On his own. 504 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 3: Oh, certainly, don't promote him, increase his quality of life 505 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: on your dime, and then expect your sister to swallow 506 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: it down and not feel betrayed. Op responds, he was 507 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: already filling in doing that job before all this came out, 508 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 3: and he was doing it better than the person before. 509 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: The hiring market is tough right now to find someone 510 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: with this experience. I definitely felt conflicted, but the rest 511 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: of my team was bouging for how well he's doing 512 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: and how much they like working for him. I do 513 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: feel bad for my sister, but my business supports seven 514 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: and other employees. Livelihoods supports my wife and three kids, 515 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: and my parents, who's housing expenses I pay for so 516 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: indirectly pain to house my sister currently since my dad 517 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: is on disability. It's not black and white. I understand 518 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: my sister is hurt. At this point, I'm more asking 519 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: how I can help do damage control. 520 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: Because I actually don't care about anything that you guys 521 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: are saying about me betraying my sister. But what can 522 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: I do where I still get what I want and 523 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: also no one's mad at me for it? It's exactly it. 524 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: Yes, though, I think giving her space is the right 525 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: move now so she can cool off. A deleted response. Look, 526 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: you can't fire him for personal reasons. Your sister and 527 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: your family will be pissed at you for that, and 528 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 3: with good reason. You can't possibly deny that. Try talking 529 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: with your sister and family on what you can compromise 530 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: with them. I'm sure you've already explained that you made 531 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: your decision purely on business reasons, and firing slash demoting 532 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: him is off the table given that you can be 533 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 3: sued for that info. Have you talked to Josh about 534 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: the issue with your sister? In hindsight, never mixed family 535 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: in business again, Opie responds, I talked to him once 536 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: when it all came out. He apologized and told me 537 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: he fell in love with the other woman. I told 538 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: him I don't want to hear about that or ever 539 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: discuss this matter at work, and then all conversations from 540 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: here on out would be strictly professional. He has abided 541 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: by that since as a rule, I don't discuss the 542 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 3: two of them with each other, no matter what. The 543 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: consensus is not the a hole and there is an update. 544 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like you, though, I don't know. 545 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: I'm kind of on ops side. I don't think that 546 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 2: Opie's necessarily doing the wrong thing. I just don't like him. 547 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: I just feel bad that he's the one making all 548 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: the money that he has a wife and kids to 549 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: provide for. He also has all these other employees to 550 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: provide for feels like an excuse to. 551 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: Me, that's what do you mean that? That's not excuse, 552 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: Like it feels like he's just saying, Oh, I get 553 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: a new person. I don't want to do the work 554 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: to get a new person. Well, yeah, because it's hard 555 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: because he said that. The Yeah, I feel that this 556 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 2: doesn't want to do. 557 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: The work the business or the like hiring market is 558 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 3: really bad right now. 559 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I don't believe him. I don't buy it. I mean, 560 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: he didn't even apply for the job. 561 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: Sister vowed for him. Was like, Hey, he's looking for 562 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: a job, can you do it? And it's like maybe, 563 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: I guess, And then all that happens and it's like, yeah, Yi. 564 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want. Opie, You're doing the 565 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: right thing business wise. I'll tell you that. That's all 566 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: I say. Update. 567 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: Saturday night, we had a family dinner where my parents 568 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: and Sarah are living. We didn't talk about the subject 569 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: of the last post during dinner, but Sarah was being 570 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: noticeably short with me, to the point that my son's noticed. 571 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: After dinner, I asked to speak in private, to which 572 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: she obliged. I reiterated to her that my actions with 573 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: Josh were purely about business and had nothing to do 574 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: with her. She told me she knows that, and she 575 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: was embarrassed at her reaction. It's just been a few 576 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: really crappy months for her. 577 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh dang wow. Yeah, I like her and I still 578 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: don't like you. 579 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Basically, she told me she hates her job, is now 580 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: single and missing her former best friend, and now she's 581 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: having some anxiety about never finding someone before she's too 582 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: old to have kids. And meanwhile everything just keeps seeming 583 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 3: to get better for her. 584 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: Ex. 585 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: I have to say that really was sad to hear 586 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 3: from her. I told her I'm always here for her 587 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: and asked her what ideally she'd like to do work wise. Well, 588 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: it turns out, without getting too specific, what she would 589 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: ideally like to do is something that one of my 590 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 3: best friends has a business and needs someone to do 591 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: that function. That friend owes me some favors for a 592 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 3: jam I got them out of in the past, so 593 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: I told her I'd see what I can do. Well, 594 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: they connected Monday and really hit it off. They offered 595 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: her a full time position that she will now be 596 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: starting in two weeks. She'll be making more money with 597 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: better benefits doing something she's always wanted to do. Also, 598 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: on Sunday, we actually went to the amusement park with 599 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: my kids and her and I had a bit of 600 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: a family day. 601 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Okay, somehow you got it so that everything worked out 602 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: for you, and you know what, I'm impressed somehow you 603 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: did it, and I'm glad that you finally helped your sister. 604 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: I feel like maybe you could have talked to her 605 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: a while ago and then you wouldn't have had all 606 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: these problems, but you didn't, and you finally talked to her. 607 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: All right, we're right at the end. 608 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Oh boy. 609 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: She said that was great therapy for her, and what 610 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: she needed was to get out of the house my 611 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: parents are living in, as she was just feeling sorry 612 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: for herself there. She's looking at apartments this week and 613 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: is hoping to find one near me as she loves 614 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: hanging out. I'm not talking for you babysitting with her nephews. Sorry, 615 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 3: this isn't the juicy updates some people who were saying 616 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: she's going to go absolutely no contact with me. We're expecting, 617 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: but it was a happy update. Nonetheless, I'm really excited 618 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: for her to start a new job, as I think 619 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: she'll be much happier there, and she has a lot 620 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: to offer, so I'm sure she'll find someone as soon 621 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 3: as she's ready to start dating again. There are some 622 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: more comments. Mad for It says the only scenario where 623 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: I would be more on your side on this one 624 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: is if your country slash state laws do not permit 625 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: firing without just cause. I agree, example, as retribution for 626 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: his actions in his personal life. Committing a violation against 627 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: an employee protection Act and putting your business as risk 628 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: of actual damage, not just the inconvenience of losing a 629 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: good employee who you have no replacement for at the moment, 630 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: is a different situation entirely, Opie responds. When I manage 631 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: my business, I like to look at situations objectively. Firing 632 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Josh would have been purely revenge and would hurt him, myself, 633 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: his future child, who has done nothing wrong, and the 634 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: rest of my employees. It also wouldn't have helped anyone. 635 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: Sarah and I talked about it, and she conceded that 636 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: it wouldn't have actually helped anyone or anything either. We're 637 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: all good now. I'd rather focus my energies towards helping 638 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: people and accomplishing goals than hurting people out of retribution, 639 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: and Sarah agrees. 640 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I guess you won this time, OPI, OPI. I 641 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: don't know. I was on your side kind of the 642 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: whole time. I wasn't, but it worked out for you. 643 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was on Sarah's side, and Sarah's cool. 644 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: Now, I'm glad that there was like a lot of 645 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: communication throughout this and figuring out and being like, you know, 646 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: I feel remorseful, but like if I fire him, like 647 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: that's putting so many. 648 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Other people in a horrible position as well. You know, 649 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: that's fair. 650 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you kind of you know, you had 651 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: this talk, this heart to heart and every think's good 652 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 3: and she's getting out and she's doing it and you. 653 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Also helped her. 654 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you helped her and you did her. 655 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: I debate that it worked out happily ever apped her. Really, 656 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: I would still kind of give Josh a glare in 657 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: the office every once in a while. Oh yeah, Josh, 658 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: screw him. He's horrible. But anyway, that's the end of 659 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: that story. We got another one camera at it. 660 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Keon, your favorite Filipino here. We're going to 661 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of 662 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors. 663 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: I asked my daughter to share her gifts with her stepsister. 664 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: It didn't go well. Maybe she doesn't want to share. 665 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: I forty female, was a single mother to my daughter 666 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: Amy fifteen female. I came out three years ago and 667 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: married my wife, Jenna forty two female. Last year she 668 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: had a daughter, Nora, thirteen female. We all lived together 669 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: as I have full custody of my daughter. It was 670 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: kind of hard for her to adjust having a second mom, 671 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: but they got along well. By the way, this comes 672 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: from Emotional Duty fifty to fifty one and if you 673 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 674 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: slash Okay storytime. Supared at ENDOPI said, the girls have 675 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: their birthdays very close, only two days apart, so we 676 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: decided to have a joint birthday party for both of them. 677 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: Since Nora had a hard time making new friends, they 678 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: moved in with us, and she's very shy. Most of 679 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: my family lives out of the country, so the gifts 680 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: were sent a week early. It was a huge bag 681 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: with at least twenty gifts. The party was nice and 682 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: we opened the bag at night. Once everyone left, Jenna 683 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: handed out the presence as she took them out. After 684 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: twelve gifts in a row just for Amy, I jacked 685 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: the bag and froze to see that there were only 686 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: one gift for Nora from my parents. If you pretended 687 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: it wasn't a big deal. But as she opened the present, 688 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: I saw her face fall. It was a fifteen dollars 689 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: tumbler from Walmart. Not to sound ungrateful, but Amy's gifts 690 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: were much more expensive. Lots of gift cards over one 691 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, a new phone. Who got her a new phone? 692 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: She gets a phone. This girl gets a tumbler, limited 693 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: fun funkos design her clothes, and lots of cards wishing 694 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: her a happy birthday. Needless to say, I blew up 695 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: in the family chat, calling out my pairs and siblings 696 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: and extended family who sent gifts for not considering Nora 697 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: and my parents for the cheap gift. No one took 698 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: me seriously, since it's not her duty to give gifts 699 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: to someone else's kids, and Amy deserved them since I 700 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: didn't even throw her own birthday party, emphasizing that Jenna 701 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: and Nora are my problem, not theirs. Noura was clearly 702 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: hurt since it's not the first time my family has 703 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: left her out at night. I asked Amy to share 704 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: some of the gifts with her stepsister, not all of them, 705 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: just a couple of gift cards and some of the 706 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: new clothes. Amy refused. This surprised me, since she never 707 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: had a problem with sharing, and even though she and 708 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: Nora are not BFFs, they usually get along. After asking why, 709 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Amy started crying, saying that she never wanted a joint 710 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: birthday party and that I forced her to share everything 711 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: with Nora. That is really fair of her to say, 712 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: because they are two different people. 713 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: And that's why I feel bad. Like when I, you know, 714 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: was with the twins and everything, they will never have 715 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: like they'll always have a joint yeah, And I'm like, 716 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: and they always get just the same things from everyone. 717 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I got a shirt, you got a shirt. 718 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: I got, you know, football gloves, you got football gloves. 719 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: I got you know, a car, like a remote car. 720 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: You got a remote car. 721 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: It's the same gifts. They just both have to have them. 722 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: Why would you even need two of the gifts anyway? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, 723 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: probably just share. 724 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: No, they like they that was a thing they like. 725 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: They were very much like, no, they each need to 726 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: have like their own thing. Like they don't share, even 727 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: like food, Like if we had like like if I 728 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: would make fruit or something and just like cut it 729 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: up for them, they I would have to put it 730 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: on separate plates for them to eat, like they won't 731 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: just like pick out, you know whatever. Like yeah, they're 732 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: like no, no, no, they need their own I don't know, 733 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: but now they don't share. So yeah, I guess make 734 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: to make them feel individual or something, but they don't 735 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 3: even like if you know, say I gave them the 736 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: wrong things and like I switched it, they wouldn't eat it. 737 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: They're like, no, you gave it to him, you gave 738 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: it to him. 739 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm not touching that. I'd be like that's ridiculous. They 740 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: share a room for space, and I make sure they're 741 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: both invited to the same parties and sleepovers so that 742 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: Nora won't be left out. I'm just going back really quick. Yeah, 743 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: there is a two year age gap. Nora is thirteen, 744 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: Amy is fifteen. If I were fifteen, I don't know 745 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: if I would want a thirteen year old come in 746 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: to all of the same events as me. That's true, Like, yeah, 747 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: they're sisters, but Amy probably wants to hang out with 748 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: her own friends. 749 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, just because Nora is like, you know, like a 750 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: little shy and a little more introverted, doesn't mean that 751 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: you should also put Amy at that expenses exactly and 752 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: now have Amy share all of her friends with Nora. 753 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: You know, like, it's not fair in that way. They 754 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: both have individual identities. You can't just because it works 755 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: for you, guys, just do a joint birthday. Like, No, 756 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 3: they're two different people. 757 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: And they also don't even have the same birthday. I 758 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't have done the joint birthday. Yeah, if they don't 759 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: invite both of them, then neither of them goes. That's 760 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: so messed up. Yeah, what that genuinely is Really you're 761 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: the a hole for that. Op. Amy can't hang out 762 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: with her friends because her sister, who hasn't I mean 763 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: stepsister hasn't even been in her life that long. It 764 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: wasn't invited. Amy stated that she at least wanted her 765 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: own gifts to be hers alone. I scolded her for 766 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: being selfish with her stepsister, grounded her, and took a 767 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 2: couple of the presents to give to Nora. You're an ale, 768 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: she turned them now because she didn't want problems with Amy, 769 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: and it felt like pity. It was this was you 770 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: giving her pity gifts exactly. 771 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, no, I want her included, I'm 772 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: taking your stuff, when that was just that's her stuff, 773 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: like you know, and it's her birthday and Bertha two 774 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: years apart, and you know, that's her family. You can't 775 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: expect her family to give your extended family, you know, 776 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: gifts as what like I need my parents would but 777 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: that's just you know, they don't want anyone to go without. 778 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But like would your parents get like, let's say 779 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: your parents knew someone for maybe two years, would they 780 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: give them the same amount of gifts as they give you? 781 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean like I would have more exactly. Yeah. 782 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: So I totally understand why you're upset that Nora's feeling 783 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: left out, and to a certain extent, I think that 784 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: she was left out, which is not okay. But there 785 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: is going to be a difference because Nora hasn't been 786 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: in the family's life for very long in that and. 787 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't even know if they've met Nora because they 788 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 3: said that all most of her families out of the country. 789 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like so have they all even met Nora? So 790 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 2: it's like they don't. They aren't close with her. They 791 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 2: don't really know much about what she likes. 792 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: Probably yeah, oh I'm sure, yeah, And so it's like 793 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: there's not really a relationship there, so they don't owe 794 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: that to her. But like obviously it is like a 795 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: nice thing to do, yeah, to send something, but obviously 796 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 3: the ones that you have a special relationships, last connection with, 797 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: like those are the ones you're going to go above 798 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: and beyond exactly exactly. 799 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: They're not going to send Nora, a girl they don't 800 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 2: know a iPhone. It's like how I think. 801 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 3: Of it as like, okay, so like my parents like 802 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: will give all of us like presents for Christmas and 803 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 3: then but she also gives all of the cousins like 804 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: presents for Christmas, but each of them just gets like one. Yes, 805 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: but I obviously, like everyone in my family gets you know, 806 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 3: like ten or something. You know, it just really depends 807 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: like how expensive or whatever. But like like I feel 808 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 3: like that's that makes sense. That's reasonable, Like, yeah, you 809 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: don't have to give as much to them as you 810 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: do to me, since I am your child. 811 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: And if Noor feels left out, than you and her mom, 812 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: as the parents need to go above and beyond for her. Yeah, 813 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: not just steal Amy's gifts. 814 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't just like expect the family to 815 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: just do that for you. 816 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 2: You know. Since then, Amy has been cold to all 817 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: of us. I just want my two girls to be 818 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: closer with the joint party and I have the same 819 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: things am I the ale Yeah, and we discussed it. Clarification, 820 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: Jen and I bought gifts for the girls their own 821 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 2: tablets as well as their friends. Nora also receive gifts 822 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 2: from her extended family, but they sent for Amy as well. 823 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: How many did they send Amy? Though? Update? I didn't 824 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: answer many questions in the comments because seeing the number 825 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: of replies, I decided to make an update once things 826 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: calm down. I admit and accept that I haven't been 827 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: the best mom to Amy. I love my daughter, but 828 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: I always want wanted a bigger family and was desperate 829 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: to make it work. You were actively making it not work. 830 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: I also accept that I favored Nora as I want 831 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: her to recognize me as her mom's partner or stepmom. 832 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: I talked to my wife and she agrees that I 833 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: forced too much on the girls to share in being 834 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: sisters to the point of being ridiculous with my both 835 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: of them aren't invited, neither of them goes rule. At first, 836 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: she was okay with Amy including Nora and her friend group, 837 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: as she was always very shy and we didn't want 838 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: her to be lone. But with the rule, I basically 839 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: made Amy Nora's babysitter. In fact, I didn't know this. 840 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: Amy went to her crying after I took away her 841 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: presence and doesn't feel that I love her anymore. It 842 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: made me cry. I thought we were a happy family. 843 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 2: Later I talked to Amy, begged her forgiveness and promised 844 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: that I would do things right from now on. She 845 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: forgave me very quickly. See it was that easy, Opie, 846 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: was that easy. She just wanted you to listen to her. 847 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: I also asked how she really feels about the blended family. 848 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: She said that she really likes Jenna, but doesn't feel 849 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: anything special towards Nora. I thought they loved each other 850 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: and out not they barely tolerate each other. I asked 851 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: her why, and Amy said, I've only known her for 852 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: a year and she's kind of weird. Later I talked 853 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 2: to Nora to apologize for the party and everything else 854 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: she was upset, but she also forgave me. Nora also 855 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 2: confirmed that they don't really care about each other. They're 856 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: just polite because they live together. Based on everything that happened, 857 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: we're starting to make some changes. We're going to move 858 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: Amy into the basement. Since the house is small and 859 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: there's only two rooms, she chose to have it as 860 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: her bedroom. We'll throw Amy her own party next month, 861 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: as she wanted. Nora didn't want to have one, and 862 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: needless to say that if both of them aren't invited, 863 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 2: neither of them goes. Rule no longer exists. There is 864 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: a little bit left to this story. Any final thoughts. 865 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 2: I think it was a real eye opener for opio. 866 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm glad that you took the advice of 867 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 3: others of just being like, dude, you can't just control. 868 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: You can't just be like, yeah, you're gonna be friends 869 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: and you're gonna like it, and your friends are gonna 870 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: come and I you don't have any but like you 871 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: can go in with them and if like you don't 872 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,479 Speaker 3: want you, then no one's having anything. Like that's way 873 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: too controlling. It's giving Helicopter Mom agree, and I just don't. 874 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 3: That's never a good thing. Control, Like you can have control, Yes, 875 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 3: control is like a good thing sometimes, but not over 876 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: control to being like you have to love your sister 877 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 3: after knowing her for a year. 878 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you push that, they're not gonna you know, 879 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna like each other even less. Oh exactly. 880 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: That's like those kids that, like, you know, very strict 881 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 3: parents are like you only do this, you can't go here, 882 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: you can't do that, blah bah blah, and then they 883 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: end up being so sneaky because it's like like I, 884 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: you don't let me do anything, and this is the 885 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 3: only time I can go out and. 886 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: Get experience and explore and whatever. 887 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 3: So it's like I'm gonna do it, and now I'm 888 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: doing it in an unsafe way. 889 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: But We've got a little bit left. I'm proud that 890 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 2: my girls found the place in their hearts to give 891 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: me a second chance. And according to some advice I 892 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: read in the comments, it was wrong of me to 893 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: force them to be a family immediately. You can't force love. 894 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: I should know that better than anyone, and I'm ashamed 895 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: of my actions. They've been spending more time together lately, 896 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: but I won't force anything. Their relationship is up to them. 897 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what you expected from 898 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 2: the comments. Most people expected Amy to go live with 899 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 2: my parents, go no contact with me in the future, 900 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: or that Jenna would divorce me and take them both. 901 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 2: I started going to therapy a few weeks ago to 902 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: work on my problems and hopefully be a better mother 903 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: and wife for my family. Even if the comments we're 904 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: a bit harsh, I appreciate the interest and help. I 905 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: honestly think you needed some marsh comments. Yeah, I think 906 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: you needed a wake up call. But that is the 907 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: end of that story. And we've got some comments of Hey, 908 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,479 Speaker 2: it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here, and we're 909 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: going to get back to the stories. But here's a 910 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: three minute ad break from our sponsors. And these comments 911 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 2: are from the story My mother's boyfriend made me realize 912 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: how insecure my stepmother is. And this was posted February thirteenth, 913 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six TLDR. For story one, Opie grew up 914 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: feeling unwanted in her dad's house because his stepmom treated 915 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: her like she did not belong. She was left out 916 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 2: of family trips, pushed out of Christmas photos and even 917 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 2: called a weekend daughter. Oh. Her dad kept pictures of 918 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: her hidden in his office, but never truly stood up 919 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: for When her mom's boyfriend showed her what real care 920 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: looks like, Opie realized the way she was treated was 921 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: not normal. After one more Christmas without her, she finally 922 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: confronted her dad. He chose his wife over her, so 923 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: Opie made a choice too. She walked away from the 924 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: house and said she'll not come back as long as 925 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 2: her stepmom is there. If you're curious to know the 926 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: full story, you can go watch the full video. We've 927 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: got a comment from Flagirl Medick, who says, as a 928 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: stepmom in a stepmom group, I don't know what group 929 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: she's talking about, but the one I'm in would absolutely 930 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 2: tear into the stepmom for treating Ope like that. My 931 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: step sons are my sons too. It breaks my heart 932 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: that people are out there justifying treating a child this way. 933 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: And joyata Ja says the seventeen year old gal should 934 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: be proud she's dealing with the father stuff. At seventeen, 935 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: I pushed it down until my forties and comment for 936 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: from smile fifty to ten, I would be livid if 937 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: my partner prioritize me over our daughter. Bom Mariana says, 938 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: I've always thought your spouse should come first, but that 939 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: only works if you actually choose a good one, someone 940 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: who isn't selfish, isn't greedy, and would never put your 941 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: kids in a bad spot. If you don't have that, 942 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 2: the whole thing doesn't work. When your priorities are clear, 943 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: you can look at situations more in the sense of 944 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: it as a want or a neat And just because 945 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: your spouse comes first doesn't mean your kids come last. 946 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 2: It just means you value both parties. You protect your kids, 947 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: you support your partner, and you make choices that are 948 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 2: good for the whole family. And that is the end 949 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: of that story and those comments and the end of 950 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe, 951 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: and we love you and see you tomorrow.