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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Tuesday, April twenty nine, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're glad draft

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Speaker 1: season is over. It's me and your man, MG Marcus

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Speaker 1: graduated by Michael f Floyda and LaQuan Jones's hel Q

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Speaker 2: Back outside fellas.

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Speaker 1: We made it. We made it, we made it. We

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Speaker 1: got through the draft. Look, I get it. It's fun,

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Speaker 1: there's like excitement, there's things to talk about, but the

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Speaker 1: whole process is it's exhausting. So I'm glad that we

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Speaker 1: are through it for another year. Have either of you

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Speaker 1: clicked on a way too early mock draft for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six yet?

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I did one on Sunday with the serious XM guys

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Speaker 3: over there, but kudos to them. The draft fourteen rounds

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Speaker 3: was over in like forty minutes, like everyone was just

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Speaker 1: That's great, that's great. Yeah. No, I'm seeing people like

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Speaker 1: promote their mock drafts for like twenty twenty six for

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Speaker 1: next year, and I'm like I can't.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, actual no, no, yeah, I don't even matter.

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Speaker 1: Fantasy won oh real, no, no, no, no, no, I've seen. No,

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Speaker 1: I've seen I have seen mock drafts for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: like big boards for twenty twenty six, all this kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff already. I mean, I guess I get it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna I respect to work. I'll put

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Speaker 1: in I'm not clicking on that.

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Speaker 2: Does the door not work in their house? Like just

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Speaker 2: twist it go outside.

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Speaker 3: There was a USC quarterback a couple of years ago

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Speaker 3: and then he went like fourth round.

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Speaker 1: The year later. I was probably Keenden Slovas. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: was probably Keenden Slovas. He was there for a year.

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Speaker 1: He actually had that was forced to start because like

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Speaker 1: the guys ahead of him got hurt. The big talking

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Speaker 1: point about Keden Slovas was that his quarterback coach in

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Speaker 1: high school, the guy he worked with was Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 1: He ended up transferring after a year or so at USC,

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Speaker 1: and I looked him up. I just by chance, I

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Speaker 1: just happened to see his knicks. I had forgotten that

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Speaker 1: he had gotten drafted at all. And he is. That's

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Speaker 1: why he's with the Texans. He's with the Houston Texas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, but he's like their second or third QB.

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Speaker 1: He actually the third QB in Houston, so yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know you'll.

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Speaker 2: Never see him play. I mean, shroud.

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Speaker 3: Matt Barkley was the one I was thinking of.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Matt Barkley. Matt Barkley was a big thing at

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Speaker 1: USC but he I.

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Speaker 3: Remember seeing him be like he's gonna go top five

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Speaker 3: and then that never happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably stayed one year too long.

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Speaker 1: Some guys, you know, it's good to come back. Matt

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Speaker 1: Barkley probably should have struck while the iron was hot

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Speaker 1: really high. He came back. It all kind of fell apart,

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Speaker 1: Like you would see his name on a practice report

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Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, you're still good for you man. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we are obviously going to re capped the draft, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, thanks to those of you who jumped

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Speaker 1: Thursday night after Round one. You want to go back

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Speaker 1: and watch it. It's still on the YouTube, so you

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Speaker 1: can go check that out at the NFL Fantasy YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: But for those of you who caught it live, were

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Speaker 1: grateful you popped.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was morning when they tapped in what.

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Speaker 1: It was in Australia. Thought it was like Ireland or

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Speaker 1: something in Australia on our Ireland Australia.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: We got fans international, man, I love them.

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Speaker 1: We are world famous. So shout out to those of

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Speaker 1: you who were either stayed up late or woke up early,

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Speaker 2: Morning, good afternoon, and good night.

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Speaker 1: We are certainly grateful for you for it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through our favorite least favorite picks for Day two

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Speaker 1: and day three, talk about some of the players that

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Speaker 1: were helped or were hurt by what happened in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I was not about doing a new segment, but I'm

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Speaker 1: like all the news headlines are basically draft related, so

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Speaker 1: we might as well just dive on into it here.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with Day two. I'm simple question with you, Florio,

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Speaker 3: There's quite a few, but I'll stick with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I like both of their second and third round picks

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Speaker 3: and Traveon Henderson and Kyle Williams, partially because these were

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Speaker 3: Kyle Williams. Yeah, we know Stefan Diggs is their one,

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Speaker 3: but after that it is completely up for grabs, I believe.

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Speaker 3: And then Henderson. I know people are gonna be like, well,

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Speaker 3: going to fully go away. This looks like a committee

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Speaker 3: a change in this backfield. I think we'll see it.

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Speaker 3: Can't battle in all that, but I expect Henderson to

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Speaker 1: And I know for you, Mike. I'm guessing part of

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Speaker 1: this excitement is because I know how much you love

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Speaker 1: Drake May, right, and the Patriots are making an effort

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Speaker 1: to give Drake May weapons. Now you know whether or

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Speaker 1: not these guys pan out, well, we'll find out, but

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Speaker 1: at least the effort has been there. The effort has

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Speaker 1: for Drake May. But you gotta ask because you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys sparked an interesting conversation in our text chain

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Speaker 1: about Kyle Williams because Lakwan you were saying you were

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out where to rank him. You guys

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams going to New England, talented guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have not been great at drafting wide receivers

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Speaker 2: I mean, your feelings on Kyle Williams, Like I'm a

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Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, man, I gotta I gotta go back

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Speaker 2: that right through the middle he catches and put his

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Speaker 2: a field. But it's like I have little PTSD because

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Speaker 2: I was in on Javan Baker, Jalen Polk. These are

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Speaker 2: the past. But it's just like I'm a little hesitant

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Speaker 2: I am a fan of him all around though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's gonna be. I think

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Speaker 1: there's ample opportunity for him to carve out a role

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Speaker 3: Older gen guys, you know, the older.

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Speaker 1: Gene guys too. I mean that's the other part of it,

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Speaker 1: older Gen guys, you know, like that is true. Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: so they're really gonna have to earn their opportunity here.

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Speaker 1: So there's certainly a chance for Kyle Williams to jump

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Speaker 1: surprise that the Queen Shawn Jenkins went ahead of Trevon Henderson.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more so of a fit though, Like

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Speaker 2: it's like more so like what fits what the Browns

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Speaker 2: and they obviously said, hey, we need a Quinn Shawn Jenkins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I was just

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna sound like an op right now because

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at and Elijahl Royo, like I absolutely love

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Speaker 2: another one of my boys that we'll talk about later on.

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Speaker 2: But honestly what he brings to the table. He's versatile,

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Speaker 2: he has soft hands, the guy could play vertical. Fifty

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Speaker 2: one percent of his time was in the slot last season.

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Speaker 2: So this is everything that you get from a modern

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Speaker 2: of the brock Bowers, the trade mcbrides, he honestly has

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Speaker 2: the opportunity in front of him because no offense. Let's

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Speaker 2: be honest, he's dust, like that ship has sailed, Like

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Speaker 2: there's no longer a Noah fan community. If there is,

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Speaker 2: they're deep six feet deep, like it's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's somebody out there, there's somebody holding on

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Speaker 2: But more so looking at this spot for him in

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Speaker 2: like the offense, like there's still some type of confusion,

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Speaker 2: So like I'm not bullish on him to make a

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Speaker 2: tight end two for me to get later in those drafts.

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Speaker 2: be looking just to have as a stash in those

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Speaker 2: the reason why I'm really so hesitant is the confusion

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Speaker 2: of the offense right now, because honestly, it's a new regime.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clint's coming in here with a fresh start

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Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator. We don't know where JSN is

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Speaker 2: going to be utilized as you're going to be in

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Speaker 2: the slide on the perimeter, bouncing inside it out. You

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Speaker 2: understand and know what NBS's role is. He's going to

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Speaker 2: beat a deep threat. Though it's like you look at

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Speaker 2: all those things and that it is on the paper

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Speaker 2: and on the table for this offense, there's just no

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Speaker 2: real solid like understanding of what this offense is actually

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Speaker 2: gonna look With Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because the way you feel about Elijah and

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Speaker 1: Royo and this isn't my favorite day to pick, but

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Speaker 1: it's sort of how I feel about Harold Fannin going

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. And not that David n Joku's dust. He's

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Speaker 1: definitely not, but he's also getting up toward age thirty.

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Speaker 1: The Browns could sort of get out of his contract

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Speaker 2: I will say I am a fan now because there

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Speaker 2: was only three locations that I was like, listen, I

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Speaker 3: No, but I'll say that it was one mock after

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Speaker 3: Bears offense. I'll flag plan whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 3: and DJ Moore's going full price. All the rest of

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I feel like that's going to change.

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Speaker 1: I think Swift will stay about where he is, Like,

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Speaker 3: the offseason is Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: My stack in the last Best Ball draft I did

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Speaker 2: I got Caleb, so that's like one of those discounted,

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Speaker 2: don't think I could pay a price for Dj Moore

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at at Caleb's season, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jaden Daniels helped get his team

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Speaker 1: Bringing in Ben Johnson supposed to change that. It's supposed

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Speaker 1: to Will can get over the hump in terms of scoring, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think that means you can sort of project

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Speaker 1: more for Odoons. Hopefully that means Luther Burden's getting involved, right,

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore, we know who he's gonna be. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: And to that point, it's not just how good Ben

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Speaker 3: It's comparing it to what they had last year, where

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Speaker 3: they had Shane Waldron who doesn't use motion, doesn't move

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Speaker 3: arguably one of the best offensive lines in football. Like,

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Speaker 3: holding a down rookie year against him where he had

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Speaker 3: two target vacuums and an OC change and the quarterback

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Speaker 3: was a rookie going through Like I think Roma Dunsay

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: I got ten touchdowns on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I do think he's primed for a step forward this year.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, I think it's gonna happen, especially

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Speaker 1: no Keenan Allen there. Yeah, I think he's right now,

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Speaker 1: it's undervalued. I think people will start to look into

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Speaker 3: Before we move to least Favorite, I just want to

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Speaker 3: give a quick shout out R. J. Harvey deserves. He

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Speaker 3: like him on this show. But Caleb Johnson I believe

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, well then that that gets

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Speaker 1: us the least favor, which you mentioned. I'm gonna jump

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Speaker 1: in here first because R. J. Harvey was my least

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Speaker 1: favored landing spot. Really, it's not about the it's not

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Speaker 1: trust Sean Payton. I don't trust Sean Payton. I don't

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Speaker 1: trust his backfield usage. Right, I mean sure, but maybe RJ.

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Speaker 1: Harvey is the lead back there, Right, but he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tempted to sprinkle in some Julia McLoughlin. Right, He's

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Speaker 1: trust Sean Payton with his running back usage. This to

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Speaker 1: That's all it is. For me. I just can't Harvey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. I get it.

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Speaker 3: I know, the chef, like the patanism or whatever we're

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Speaker 3: gonna call it, was awful last year. I think that's

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Speaker 1: I thought he trusted Odric estimate, and I thought he

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Speaker 3: Loddrick estimate is like the slowest running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean, McLaughlin is just a guy. Like the fact

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Speaker 3: that they used a round two pick on a running back.

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Speaker 3: To me, I came away feeling pretty good about about Harvey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel really good about the landing spot. Only

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Speaker 2: now that I have a change of heart, because honestly,

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Speaker 2: we've seen a guy of his frame his build last

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Speaker 2: He kind of expressed his love for Bucky Irvin and said,

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Speaker 2: with fourteen hundred plus yards forty two touchdowns in two

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Speaker 2: seasons at UCF. That cannot be ignored with a Jalia

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Speaker 2: mcgloffin and the slowest player on the planet in Audier estimate,

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Speaker 2: like there's no way he has any psyche and calculating

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Speaker 1: Nokay, I mean we said that now.

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Speaker 2: I feel you with the trust issues, but if he

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Speaker 1: Week six. Week six, we're talking about Sean Anagans because

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Speaker 1: he's like messing around stuff. We needed a new one,

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Speaker 1: right because Bellatrix doesn't really count anymre because he's not

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Speaker 1: still have Shannon Hanigans going strong, though it is just

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Speaker 1: in a different arena. We're not talking about that though.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we got Shanahanigan still in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Anagans in uh in Denver with Sean Payton for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right beyond that though, l Q your your least

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Speaker 1: favorite landing spot in day two.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is a landing spot for me too.

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Speaker 2: And not that he's not going to produce. I'm just selfishly,

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Speaker 2: I wish he was a RAM. And that's Jack besh

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Speaker 2: Man going to the Las Vegas Raiders, Like it's such

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Speaker 2: a great situation for him because he's a starter right

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Speaker 2: now as a rookie on that roster among some of

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Speaker 2: the other guys like McMillan, Burden, etcetera, etcetera. But I

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Speaker 2: at a longevity time because he just seems like a

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Speaker 2: McVeigh guy, Like he's so physical and I know McVeigh

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Speaker 2: probably saw his table. It's like, I can use this

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Speaker 2: guy on every single level possible close to the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage, just how physical he is. He could break

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Speaker 2: the tackle intermediate. He's very savvy and sneaky with his

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Speaker 2: he could play it deep. Like he's really one of

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Speaker 2: those guys that you were just hoping he gets on

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Speaker 2: your team. But he's on the Raiders, so I guess

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll see what Gino Smith does with him

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Speaker 2: in you know, Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: So it's your least favorite spot just because you're being selfish, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: absolutely got it, all right, that's okay. I I liked

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Speaker 1: I liked the pick. I thought it was a good

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Speaker 2: But he's not going to hit a ceiling. Man, He's

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Speaker 2: not going to hit a ceiling that he could have

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Speaker 1: That's all. You can't have all of the wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's gonna be Fantasy relevant year one?

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Speaker 3: He could be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you worried about? Trey Tucker? And

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Speaker 2: then Jacobey Myers on the perimeter is not as good

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Speaker 2: as he is in the slot, and I think Besh

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Speaker 3: I think Besch plays, but I think Myers and Bowers

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Speaker 2: Oh heck yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's relevant in deeper leagues, but even then.

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Speaker 2: Better than guy to me, absolutely, he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: you just stashed like you have that watch list feature

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Speaker 2: on a lot of these, like you know, fantasy outlets

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Speaker 2: and just watch them, just just have them on the

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Speaker 2: tabs and like when he starts to generate some buy him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll add him on the way whire a week ahead

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Speaker 2: before everybody gets above the curve.

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Speaker 1: You know, all right. Side notes to this. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro signed with the Carolina Panthers over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So hey, dude, took one year to be like a

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Speaker 3: realtor or something like that.

433
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: Right, It's pretty sweet.

434
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 1: The guys a little bit closer to home. So there

435
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Speaker 1: it is, all right. Your least favorite landing spot Florida.

436
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: Uh, it's two guys, same team, one that I liked,

437
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 3: one that LQ loved, Jayden Higgins and Jalen Noel. It's

438
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I think this is a good real life landing spot

439
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: for them. I think you could argue for dynasty long term.

440
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: There's potential there. They're tied to a good quarterback stuff

441
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 3: like that. But just for redraft purposes, I think it's

442
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 3: gonna be hard for barring injury. Like I think Noel

443
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 3: slides in if Christian Kirk miss's time. I think Higgins

444
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: slides in and plays the Nico Collins role if he

445
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 3: missed his time. But while those two are still healthy,

446
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be though. I believe they are the top

447
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: two targets there. So then it's gonna have Higgins and

448
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: Noel competing for that third wide receiver spot and three

449
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver sets stuff like that. And then there's also

450
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz, who I don't think is great, but he's

451
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 3: gonna get some volume there. So for redraft purposes, I

452
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be tough for these guys to see

453
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: weekly consistent volume until one of Kirk or Nico eventually

454
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: missed his time.

455
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought it was weird they drafted two

456
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: guys from this same team, same offense.

457
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: That was insane. Ida.

458
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Speaker 1: It was just kind of kind of crazy, Like I

459
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: just did, like because I you know, I was in

460
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: the car for a good part of the third round

461
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: and you know, Lakwan, you texted like they just took

462
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: was it they just they just took Noel? I was

463
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: like in my head, I'm like, did they take did

464
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: they take Higgins? I was like really like I was

465
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: like driving so I couldn't like sit and scroll. I'm like, like,

466
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: they take they took Higgins too, right, so we just

467
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Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of it made my brain itch

468
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I had to gotta figure that way.

469
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: We fill a hole in need, I guess, you know.

470
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean they comped, you know, Higgins to Nico Collins,

471
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: and Nico hasn't had the best health track record, so

472
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: if he ends up missing time, nice little plug and

473
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Speaker 2: play there.

474
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Speaker 1: I guess. I also think it's a little bit of

475
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: a statement of their fear about Tank Dell too.

476
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, well, Jalen he can win downfield as well.

477
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: Like if you want to utilize him like a Tank Dell,

478
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: you could slingshot his tail right across that perimeter. He

479
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: could be a guy that can go get that ball.

480
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: And like even with the old line issues, like I

481
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: know they address somewhat of the old line grabbing a tackle,

482
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: but like you need somebody that's going to be quick

483
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: in those breaks, and Jalen he is very quick in

484
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: those breaks where he could just quick release and get

485
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: it right to him and get up field.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you.

487
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: Can learn from Kirk, right, Like, I think that is

488
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 3: a good long term.

489
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: Kirk is my boy. He's my boy, but I have

490
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: to admit there is some type of worry about him

491
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: taking a step back after being you know, injured and

492
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: banged up and kind of getting up there in age

493
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: as well, Like he's not even the same wide receiver

494
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: he was and Jackson, him and.

495
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: Nico were never the face of health either.

496
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Speaker 1: So no. Yeah, A couple more questions about day two

497
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Speaker 1: before we move on to to day three. Is Tyler

498
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Speaker 1: Shuck your starter in New Orleans?

499
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: I think so, Yeah, but I think it'll be a

500
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: camp battle him and Spencer Rattler. They seem to still

501
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: like Spencer Rattler.

502
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: Mmmm.

503
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 3: I just don't think you hand the job to a

504
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: third round rookie without him making Aye.

505
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: What twenty six, twenty seven year old third round.

506
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: Who backed up Justin Herbert for two years, who's now

507
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: on his second contract in the.

508
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: NFL nineties baby though he like he's born in ninety nine.

509
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: This blew my mind. I didn't fact check it, but

510
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: apparently he is the final player that will ever be

511
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: drafted into the NFL who was born in the nineteen hundreds.

512
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, that's a little piece of trivia. That's

513
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: a littleiece of so I saw on Twitter.

514
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 3: I didn't fact check it, but I got really sad

515
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: and then made me not want to fact check it.

516
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and it definitely makes sense. Right. It's

517
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, right, so you're not going to find

518
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: too many of these guys at this point.

519
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: I felt old when Keenan allen birthday was just like

520
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: not too long ago, and dude, I'm older than him, Like, yeah,

521
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm older than waiting, Yeah, come over on my side, man, he.

522
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 3: Just turned thirty three. Oh wow, Yeah, dude, Lebron is

523
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: like the last one that there's very kd there's very

524
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: few that I'm like athletes like ap point too, that

525
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: are older than me.

526
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm I'm I'm I'm done. I've aged

527
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: out now. Like that's sort of why I was hoping

528
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady. I mean, I'm older than Tom Brady,

529
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: but only by three months, so I was kind of

530
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: hoping that, like, you know, you gotta hung on for

531
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: a little wait longer. I mean, It's why I was

532
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: big on Bartolo Cologne staying in Major League Baseball for

533
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: a while, just I needed the old dudes to hang around.

534
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 3: I'll give you six innings today, no doubt.

535
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: And hilarious at bat to boot. Yeah. So so there

536
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: is other question, will Jaln Milroe. I'm gonna asking this

537
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: if you Lakwan, because I know how you feel about

538
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: Jaylen Milroe. Yeah, and I'm gonna ask it in a

539
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: very specific way. Will Jaln Milroe earn a start this season?

540
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, will Jaylen Milroe start a game

541
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: this season? But just because of the way quarterback is

542
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: guys get hurt, what have you, that seemed very likely.

543
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: But will he play well enough in practice or get

544
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: off enough art where the Seahawks look and say, okay,

545
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: we are giving you a starting gig over Sam Donald?

546
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Will that happen this year? No?

547
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: Because Sam, you know, regardless of how he finished the

548
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: season and the Rams gave him complete PTSD, which we're

549
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna give it twice a year every year. You just

550
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: best believe that. But he played really good football for

551
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: most of the season, and if he had lesser weapons

552
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: around him, then I would say Milroe might get a

553
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: shot at earning a spot and actually starting playing better

554
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: than Darnald. But nah, I don't. I don't see it

555
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: really happen in this season. It's one of those things

556
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: that they brung him in to develop him. He could

557
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 2: be the future. He'll be the backup playing just in

558
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: case Sam Donald falls on his face. But I think

559
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: Sam's coming in, you know, as a guy that could

560
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: probably operate this offense at a.

561
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: Decent high level.

562
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: I would say like in that between of where like

563
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: most weeks he'll look like the quarterback of the most

564
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, first couple of weeks when he was a Viking,

565
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: but then he might fall apart in December like how

566
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: he did.

567
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I just you know, I know everybody's

568
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: like sort of excited about the potential of Jalen Milroe.

569
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: I just was struggling to see a place where he

570
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: would be fantasy great.

571
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: To see him in a preseason it would be the

572
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: oohs and ahs, you know, in preseason.

573
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: I can I can see it now. He's a good

574
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: preseason game. Everybody's like, is there is there a quarterback

575
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: controversy in Seattle?

576
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: And be like, no, I don't think this year, but

577
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: next season they have an out after that. So if

578
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: Darnold is struggling, then I think that's when we see

579
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: the carpet polled.

580
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I could see that. I can see that happening.

581
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: Bonus question before we had to break Florio, When will

582
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: la Quan break down and draft Terrence Ferguson.

583
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 3: I'm guessing he already has on like three basketball teams.

584
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, man, The rule is never draft a Rams

585
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: tight end.

586
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Why why are we? I just wonder whether or not

587
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: you're fandom just over you know at some point your

588
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: your body just like you just do it anyway.

589
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: There seems to me like a block list when you're drafting,

590
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: you know how you can start to put it in

591
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: a few of do I ever want to see this player?

592
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: D and D do not draft sort of thing. Yeah,

593
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: it's all right, all right, all right, that was a

594
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: beefy talk on day two. We will take a break,

595
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: come back and talk day three, where we will finally, finally,

596
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: finally get to Shoduur Sanders. So I'll stick around for that.

597
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, recapping

598
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft onto Day three and uh,

599
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: same thing. Let's start with your favorite landing spot, Florio

600
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: for a Day three.

601
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: Guy, there was two running backs I loved, but one

602
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: was my guy. I know, my guy and a lot

603
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: of other guys, but I loved Cam Skataboo as a prospect,

604
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: and all I wanted him to go to was a

605
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: team where he could get an opportunity, and that's where

606
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: he went the Giants. And kudos to the Giants, man,

607
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I know it's easy to dunk on them and stuff.

608
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: I thought they had a great draft and I thought

609
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 3: they really set their team up for success this season.

610
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: But Skataboo comes in. He could compete with Tyrone Tracy, who,

611
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: let's not forget, is a wide receiver playing the running

612
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: back position, learning it on the fly and stuff. So

613
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: I think that there's an opportunity for him to slide

614
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: in and split touches, probably split drives or something like that.

615
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: Could be a sixty to forty split. But I think

616
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: Skataboo is going to be on the heavy side of that.

617
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: He is built to handle volume. I think he is

618
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: a better pure runner. He's more elusive, and I know

619
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: you could say Tracy's a great receiving weapon. Skataboo is

620
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: elite as a backfield receiver. It could be used downfield.

621
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: All of that.

622
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: So he got the opportunity. He went in the ninth

623
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: round in this draft I did the other day, and

624
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: that seems like value that I will be in on

625
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: all year. If he's going in like the eighth, ninth

626
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: round something like that.

627
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely take a shot on him if

628
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: that's where he's going. I mean, you know that, guys,

629
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: we ray very cam Skataboo for the podcast. Not a

630
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: bad spot. I don't think it's a bad landing spot

631
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: for him at all. I know people loved the Giants

632
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: draft this year, and I think they they definitely addressed

633
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: some needs. Now it's just a matter of whether or not.

634
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Eight Riots Browns to probably one of one of the

635
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: many of my favorite drafts.

636
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: It is a matter it's a question of whether or not,

637
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, Brian Dabole can can coach those Browns.

638
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: I like the Browns draft.

639
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, brown Yeah, we're gonna talk to rounds two. Not

640
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: a fan, We're gonna talk some Browns because they did

641
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: some very interesting things in this draft, for sure. Uh

642
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: LaQuan your favorite Day three landing spot.

643
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Man. I was really really surprised to see Damian Martinez

644
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: go in the seventh round, like the value that the

645
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks guy. And again this is the second time I'm

646
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: coming up here talking about a Seahawks player and look,

647
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: they they kind of killed it in the draft with

648
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that I liked, you know, and like,

649
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: I feel like with these rookie drafts underway and coming up,

650
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: you better leave the draft with Dayman Martinez because the

651
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: clear path to RB one is there. I mean, Kenneth Walker,

652
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: can we get it? Can we get a healthy season?

653
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: Can we It's a contract year for him, and his

654
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: rushing efficiency has dropped every single season that we've seen

655
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: him out there. And look, Zach Charbonnay cool, He's great.

656
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's great in his opportunities as a starter,

657
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: but he only has two games to his career over

658
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: sixty rushing yards. You bring in a guy like Damian

659
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Martinez who's just hard nodes head down, I'm going to

660
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: run through you. I can make you miss as well

661
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: and add to the passing game. Boy, I cannot leave

662
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: rookie drafts without him. Like it's honestly one of the

663
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: hard nose runners that you don't want to leave the

664
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: draft without, Like one hundred Gorillas versus Damian Martinez. I'm

665
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: taking Damian and Martinez every single time. I don't care

666
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: what it is. Dami and Martinez will be champion. I'm

667
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: telling you now, yeah, I didn't. I didn't bank any

668
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: time on this show for us to get into this.

669
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: You know, one hundred people.

670
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: No, I had a question. You planned on it? Oh

671
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: did you we would win one gorilla or one hundred lq's.

672
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: Oh please the gorilla, the gorilla's lq's.

673
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: We're fully mine meeting. I knew he was gonna say

674
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: me and MG would be like, yeah, we're gonna lose.

675
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: But I knew I had.

676
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: To shave it that way.

677
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, because of course he thinks he can beat

678
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: a kangaroo.

679
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: The gorilla.

680
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: The gorilla would mop up one hundred lq's while still

681
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: eating a banana, Like just like, what what are we doing?

682
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: Donkey kong punching.

683
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: Man?

684
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's see, all right, so you like you

685
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: like Damian Martinez. I'm gonna say, and maybe there's not

686
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: an immediate path to your success for this guy, but

687
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: elk iomanor h going to Tennessee just because I mean,

688
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: look at look at the wide receivers ahead of him

689
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: on the roster right now, right, I mean, they bring

690
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: in Tyler Lockett, who you know has had some good

691
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: years but is definitely on the tail end of his

692
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: career Calvin Ridley, and you know, I think they're sort

693
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: of trying to fashion him as the alpha there, and

694
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: he probably will be at least for this year. Van Jefferson,

695
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: who look, I I once upon a time was a

696
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Van stand but you know, those days are kind of over.

697
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: So there is opportunity. There is a chance for him

698
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: to step up and start to earn targets in this offense.

699
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: They're trying to build something new. You know, they spend

700
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: the number one pick on cam Ward. You know, I'd

701
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: like to see them maybe upgrade the offensive line a

702
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: little bit, but I think it's it's passable at this point.

703
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's a chance for ioman Or to

704
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: step in there. I think he's maybe more of a

705
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: keeper league dynasty league option in twenty twenty five than

706
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: say a redraft option, But I see the vision. I

707
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: see there's a path for him to kind of become

708
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: a productive option in an offense that just is desperately

709
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: in need of playmakers. Right. I mean, look, we spent

710
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: a whole long time last year trying to make Nick

711
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: Westbrook a kine a thing or right, because that's just

712
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: a legend, right, I mean, but because like that showed

713
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: you kind of where they were in terms of their

714
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: wide receivers there and left that he was bad or anything,

715
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: but like you, at the start of the year, nobody

716
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: was really like on on in WI kind of like that,

717
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: so I you know, I'm in kind of on ioman

718
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: or at this point, can I get one bonus please?

719
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: Jaden Blue. I thought he was a huge winner going

720
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys. His competition is Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. Like, yeah,

721
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: he's explosive. I think he starts maybe the years the

722
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: RB two, but clear path for him to overtake us

723
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: the RB one.

724
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now he's another one that I did like where

725
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: he landed for sure. Yeah, that's his biggest issue, fumble

726
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: the ball, all right, Florida. Then who's your least favorite

727
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: landing spot? Day three?

728
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Well, shod door Sanders for one, But uh no, I

729
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: actually liked the landing spot for him, it just was

730
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: too late. The one that made me said was DJ Giddens.

731
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: I really liked Giddins as a prospect. I was hoping

732
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: he went somewhere like Dallas or or somewhere where I

733
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: knew he wouldn't be probably a day two pick, maybe

734
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: like late round three something like that. But I just

735
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: wanted him to go somewhere where he would get an opportunity,

736
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: and he went to the Colts. So congratulations, Hi Giddins,

737
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: get ready to learn handcuff, because that's all you are

738
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: right now is you're Jonathan Taylor's handcuff in fantasy and.

739
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: Regular special teams. Buddy. Yeah, just HEARDing about that. I

740
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: mean we talked, I know, we talked about the Colts before,

741
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: and like, you know, how all of our hopes and

742
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: dreams are sort of wrapped up in whether or not

743
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: they can figure out the quarterback position, and it's just

744
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: not optimistic at this point, and so that's that's sort

745
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: of frustrating. I'm o Q your least favorite from day three?

746
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh man Oli Gordon Man, I mean going to Miami,

747
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: it's like he's part of a stable now of the

748
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: running backs that are just going to be the running

749
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: back stable, and like low morale over there right now.

750
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, but more so he's

751
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: behind Jalen right right now, and like this is not

752
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: somewhere he could revam. Like I feel like he's going

753
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: to get cold in his talent. And what I mean

754
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: by that is that twenty twenty three, he was like

755
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 2: projected to be the top running back prospect. Twenty twenty

756
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: four happens, he takes a step back with little off

757
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: field issue, et cetera, et cetera, little less production what

758
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: he had in twenty twenty four, and now he's going

759
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: to a running back stable where he may not even

760
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: see the field ever. So it's one of those situations

761
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: where like, dang man, I kind of want him to

762
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: tap back into that twenty twenty three production, but it

763
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like he's going to be able to do

764
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: that right now, being the third, four fifth, maybeing running

765
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: back you know, on that stable.

766
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just a tough spot to be in, and

767
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I just also just wonder about

768
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with that team, uh long term

769
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, coaching, front office, Like is

770
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: this it for Mike Mike McDaniel, Like, like, how how

771
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: many more opportunities does he get? Right? This team is

772
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: sort of let Yeah, has under helped forever last years.

773
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. I'm sure things are great, great,

774
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: He's great.

775
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: For fantasy and he can't beat the.

776
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Bills, you know, and he's a good quote, he's funny.

777
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we like all that stuff about him. I

778
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: just do wonder how much longer he's going to get

779
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity down there in Miami, considering the way that

780
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: team has underperformed over the last few years. I put

781
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: in love with Jalen Lane going to Washington. You know,

782
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I think I think it's the thing that works for

783
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: the commanders. I think it's a thing that works for

784
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. I don't think it's a thing that

785
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: works for Jalen Lane, you know, knowing Terry McLaurin is there,

786
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: knowing they just brought in Deebo Samuel. You know, we've

787
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: seen guys like Noah Brown step up. I still think

788
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: they want to figure out what they have in Luke

789
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: McCaffrey to some extent as well. It just seems like

790
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: it's a really crowded situation. So it's one of those

791
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: things that you know, again, if you're Jade Daniels, it's

792
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: great because you've got one more weapon potentially to work with.

793
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: If you're Cliff Kingsbury, it's another sort of moveable chess

794
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: piece that you can kind of plug in there and

795
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: see what you got. But I think in terms of

796
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: the player himself, it's just going to be a tough

797
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: spot for him to see if he can and perform

798
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: and be productive in Washington as a rookie for sure.

799
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: All Right, So I guess this is the question because

800
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I actually really wanted to get to the questions. Like

801
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: in day two. You know, we sort of talked about

802
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: them mostly so it wasn't really as big, but one,

803
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: let's just let's get to it, right. You guys alluded

804
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: to the third around picking Cleveland. It was Dylan Gabriel,

805
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: which I think that was the moment that we all

806
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: were like, wow, shoulder really is falling right, Like it

807
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: was like, all right, yeah, Cam wore he was supposed

808
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: to go number one, not a surprise. Hey wow, Jackson

809
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: darts the second quarterback off the board. That's kind of

810
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: curious when you started seeing Tyler shuck and then when

811
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: you saw the Browns take Dylan Gabriel, it was like, Okay.

812
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 3: It was hilarious to me because when it was Shuck,

813
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: people were like, I don't understand it, but he's pretty good.

814
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: Mill Rowe people were like, all right, at least there's

815
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: long term upside. And then it was Gabriel and everyone

816
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: was like, something fishy's going on here?

817
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: I got people, We were like, I got nothing. I

818
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: got nothing like Ryan like, you can't, you can't make

819
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: up a reson for it. Right. We are not here

820
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: to litigate the reasons why shaduur fell. There are plenty

821
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: of other shows and personalities that will dissect that until

822
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: the cows come home. Our job here is to explain

823
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: to you where he landed and give you our thoughts

824
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: on whether or not that makes him fantasy viable. So

825
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: I just want to put this in a bigger context though, right,

826
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: because they did spend the third round pick on Dylan Gabriel,

827
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: they did bring back Joe Flacco in the offseason, they

828
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: did go out and acquire Kinney Pickett. They've got just

829
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: a bananas looking quarterback room, at least on paper, Floya,

830
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: How does this shake out? Who ends up being the

831
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: starter in Week one in Cleveland? That's, by the way,

832
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: I mentioned the fact that Deshaun Watson is still on

833
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: the roster. Right, He's probably not gonna play this year,

834
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: but he is still you know it from the Browns.

835
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: It's still coming every couple of weeks, right, like, how

836
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: does this work out?

837
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: I think it's an absolute nightmare. I think it is

838
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: a fantasy mess and I want no part of any

839
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: of the Browns. And I felt that way before they

840
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: brought in Deontay Johnson yesterday. Who I know the internet

841
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: is like, this guy's bad, but like no, as a

842
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 3: football player, he is good. He is just everything else

843
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: you have to deal with. I think Joe Flacco starts

844
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: week one. I think he is the veteran presence. I

845
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: think it'll be a situation where he starts like the

846
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: first month of the season, something like that, and when

847
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: the Browns are not moving the ball consistently, then we

848
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: see a switch and I do believe Sanders takes over

849
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: then because I think he is like I'm gonna stand

850
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: on my takes here and not what the NFL told me.

851
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: And I know for all of draft season, I was

852
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: like draft capital and what the NFL vi these players

853
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: as matter more than what I view him as. But

854
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: Sanders didn't fall to the fifth round and behind Gabriel

855
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: because of football pure football reasons. There's everything else tied

856
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: to him. But I think if you put these two

857
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: in camp next to each other. I think Sanders is

858
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: going to be the better QB and going to win

859
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: this job. And it's funny. On Friday night, I tweeted

860
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 3: out there's not a world where Dylan Gabriel is currently

861
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: better or has more long term upside than Shador Sanders,

862
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: and so many people were like attacking me for it.

863
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that we get to watch it play

864
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 3: out now side by side, because I think I truly

865
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: believe Sanders is the better QB here, and I think

866
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 3: he's the best QB in that Browns room.

867
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I think he's the best

868
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: quarterback long term, at least in the Browns quarterback room

869
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: right now, right, I mean, you know, obviously, Joe Flacco's

870
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: had a long career. He was a Super Bowl MVP.

871
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's got that on the resume, and so

872
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: that's what everybody else is trying to match up to.

873
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: But as of this moment on April twenty ninth, twenty

874
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty five, I think Shodra Sanders is the best quarterback

875
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: in that quarterback room. But LaQuan, I mean I think

876
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: that comes with a caveat though, right, because for whatever

877
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: criticisms people had of him. The one thing or the

878
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: things that were consistent in the evaluation of him. You know,

879
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: holds onto the ball too long, takes sacks, does not

880
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: have you know, elite level arm strength, does not have

881
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: elite level athleticism. You know, these are things that are

882
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: just pure evaluations of his talent. I would also throw in, yes,

883
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: they did at Deontay Johnson. That's not a very compelling

884
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver room there, dude, I mean not at all.

885
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: It's just not. And so even if shred Door Sanders

886
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: ends up starting a number of games for the Browns

887
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: this year, which certainly is very possible, I'm is he

888
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: fantasy relevant in twenty twenty five?

889
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: What team does he play for?

890
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns?

891
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: Oh? So, the Cleveland Browns. You're expecting me to get

892
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: a Cleveland Browns quarterback and sit them into my QB

893
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: one slot and have him be fantasy Absolutely not. I mean, listen,

894
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: I am not trying to poop in Cleveland. But there

895
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: is no good track record of a quarterback coming in

896
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: there elevating that program, and the best one to do it,

897
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: honestly with his track record, would be Shrador. But I'm

898
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: not banking that on fantasy I'm here to get points

899
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: right now. I'm here to hold the championship up at

900
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: the end of the year because I made the right decisions.

901
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: Getting Shrador Sanders in Dynasty, You're you're in for a

902
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: roller coaster. You're in for a roller coaster that you

903
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: do not want to be part of. It's not one

904
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: of the fun roller coasters where you can put your

905
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: hands up and scream like yeah, like no, this is

906
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: a roller coaster of nightmares, because at the end of

907
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: the day, you have to look at what's around him.

908
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: There's not great pieces around Deontay Johnson's not moving the needle.

909
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy can only play with apparently Jamison Winston, which

910
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: he's not there anymore. So I'm not really confident in

911
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: anything that's going on in Cleveland for me to invest

912
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: anything remotely close to my fantasy League's Bestball, Redraft, Dynasty,

913
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: super Flex, Premium and whatever league that we have not

914
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: even dived into yet, to even have Shador Sanders or

915
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: any Browns quarterback on my rosters.

916
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: To quote ancient philosopher Billy Madison, a simple no, yeah.

917
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think for all of the

918
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: talk and look, whatever happens throughout training camp and the preseason,

919
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: and even early in the regular season, there's going to

920
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of talk about Shaduur and his place

921
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: on the roster and whether he should or should I'd

922
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: be playing. I think the bottom line for fantasy is

923
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: that I just don't think he's really touchable in redraft leagues.

924
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you take that shot on him in

925
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: a rookie draft in dynasty and you you wait and

926
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: see what develops there. But I just don't I don't

927
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: see an avenue where I want any part of it

928
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: in a twenty twenty five redraft league.

929
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 3: I think if you look at their roster and how

930
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: they attack this draft, the Browns don't want to be

931
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: trusting their quarterbacks in twenty twenty five like they want to.

932
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: They want to be running the ball and relying on

933
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett and that defense.

934
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is a case of they we're

935
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: just gonna stockpile quarterbacks, and lob of Averages says one

936
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: of them's got to work out.

937
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's I think that's kind of

938
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: I think they're like, none of them are going to

939
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: work out, and we have two first round picks next year.

940
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: That's when we'll get our guy or or there's that.

941
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: So you're saying they're in the Arch Manning sweepstakes, they're yeah.

942
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: And so are the Rams.

943
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Sanders versus Manning would be the QB battle of a lifetime.

944
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's no, we don't want that.

945
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: The all coverage of every z practice.

946
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Not even just every Brown's practice though, But then it's

947
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: also going to be like then we got to hear

948
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: from the Sanders family and the Manning family, and we

949
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: got you know, we got It's like, because we don't

950
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: have enough Dion and Peyton and Eli on our televisions already,

951
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna put there. We're gonna put their family members

952
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: against one another match. Oh my god, No, so I am.

953
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know if I don't know if I've

954
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: come up with this first. I'm saying I have because

955
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it anywhere. Because you know how we

956
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: had like you know, the suck for Luck and all

957
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: these things this year. It's got to be hashtag planning

958
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: for Manning, right, That's what it is. Ah.

959
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: What was it when Eli was there saying that.

960
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: There wasn't one because like Andrew, Luck was kind of

961
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: the first one, right, it was like we're gonna We're

962
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna suck for luck and then like every year we

963
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: keep trying to make up a new one and they

964
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: are increasing.

965
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, like all.

966
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: These things have been becau I'm increasingly terrible. But planning

967
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: for Manning is right there, like like we can do

968
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: this as a society, We can absolutely do this Manning. Yeah.

969
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: So obviously the Browns quarterback room is a huge story

970
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna be talked about a lot. But I didn't

971
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about the Browns running back room a

972
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: little bit, right, And you know, yes, they spin a

973
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: second round pick on quin Shawn Judkins. You know they've

974
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: moved on from Nick Chubb. Jerome Ford was yeh last

975
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: year they draft Dylan Samson in the fourth round. I mean, Lakwan,

976
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: is this just the Judkins backfield and everybody else is

977
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: playing to be his backup? Or is there a chance

978
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: they could run multiple guys in this group?

979
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: No, this is an underrated running back duel. By the way,

980
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: Like Samson was up there and talks of being one

981
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: of the top running back prospects. So them having both

982
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: on the on the stable, there is something interesting about

983
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: this brand. Browns offense. So them running that one two punch,

984
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: you get Junkins, who's a violent runner, and then you

985
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: have Samson who can also be violent at times, but

986
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: he adds to the passing game as well, even though

987
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: he was limited in his time at Tennessee catching the ball.

988
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: So I love this combination number one two punch. Sampson's

989
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: probably like more so of like a stash or a

990
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: guy that you put on the watch list. But I

991
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: would not be surprised if he's involved early over Jerome Ford.

992
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jerome Ford's unnoticed.

993
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's the thing. I think

994
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: he's probably the odd man out there. Uh you know,

995
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: so I'm curious toe where Sampson goes. I mean, are

996
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: you where I know you did a draft recently Florida.

997
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember where Judkins went in that?

998
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: I have it right here. Yet he went first pick

999
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: of the fifth round.

1000
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that's a good that's that's that's reasonable.

1001
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 3: And then Sampson went late thirteenth round.

1002
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: All right, That that all seems reasonable.

1003
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so people are expecting a one two

1004
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: punch because most of the league right now is doing

1005
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: one two punches. So I think that will probably be

1006
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: like one of the underrated ones that really.

1007
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: I do think Judkins though, is going to be the

1008
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: heavy side of that split. He's just to handle, yeah,

1009
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 3: like two hundred and fifty plus touches. Yeah, well, depending

1010
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: on if the Browns can give him the ball that much,

1011
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: because they're probably.

1012
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: The amount of place.

1013
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the only running back out of

1014
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: this class that you can reasonably project a true workhorse

1015
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: load for is Ashton Genty. Like I think everybody else

1016
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: is going to be in some sort of tandem or

1017
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: rotational situation. I mean, you know Henderson with Ramandre Stevenson

1018
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: in New England, Marion Hampton and Najie Harris with Chargers.

1019
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, we just talked about Samson and Judkins, Like

1020
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: all these other guys are gonna have somebody to share with.

1021
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I think gent is the only one you can look

1022
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: at and be like, yeah, he is the guy for sure.

1023
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 3: Have you guys, I know it's really early. The draft

1024
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: was three days ago, have you?

1025
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: Like?

1026
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: I keep thinking about where I would want to take Genty,

1027
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: and I'm settling at RB four, Like, I don't think

1028
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: I could push him ahead of Sake on Gibbs or Bijon.

1029
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: But after that, it's really hard to make a case

1030
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: against him.

1031
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, because yes, I think you're right, because you're

1032
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: drafting for the potential ceiling, right, and that's that's where

1033
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: that's how people are going to view him, is you're

1034
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: drafting it what the ceiling can be for him, and

1035
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: so by that measure, Yeah, although you know, I don't know, maybe.

1036
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: He's thirty one, I think he would, right, That's the thing.

1037
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: Derek Henry's the pivot point, and it's like, okay, one,

1038
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: he's Dereck Henry, Like yeah, two, he's thirty one years old,

1039
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: and even as big and strong as he is, that's

1040
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: a lot of wear and tear.

1041
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: I got him last night at the two of four

1042
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: spot Ashton Gent, So I was really surprised that. Yeah.

1043
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is kind of weird and

1044
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: maybe it's just one draft, but this is literally one

1045
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: draft that I did yesterday. We're going to keep drafting.

1046
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: Was it a wide receiver heavy first round or was

1047
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: there just a lot of running backs.

1048
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: It was a lot of wide receivers that went off.

1049
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: Brock Bowers was like the only non you know that, Okay,

1050
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: I got it right here.

1051
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: Actually, It's not like like Henry and a Chan and Taylor,

1052
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: we're ahead of him, because that seems to be the

1053
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: next group kind of.

1054
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: B Sean was at one o two and then you

1055
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: got Saque at the one o three, Gibbs went at

1056
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: one oh six, and then all wide receivers and then

1057
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: brock Bowers at the one eleven.

1058
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, r before makes Yeah, I think that's where

1059
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: you're going to have to take them.

1060
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, early second round is not bad.

1061
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Not staying in the AFC North. Who I do, I

1062
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: absolutely do. Who's going to be the Steelers starting quarterback

1063
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: in Week one? Mason Rudolph, Will Howard or the the

1064
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: other guy I'm not saying his name. You know who

1065
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

1066
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: Voldemort.

1067
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I was like, I was like,

1068
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: is he he who shall not be named? Is that that's?

1069
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Is he going to be the quarterback of Steelers? An

1070
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: big one?

1071
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be him? Right? Like the Steelers didn't literally

1072
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: did nothing at QB, which to me, I've been operating

1073
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: for like a month now that Aaron Rodgers is there QB.

1074
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 3: But you don't sign one and free agency, you don't.

1075
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: You don't uh trade for one, you don't take one

1076
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: at all in the draft when Sanders was there for

1077
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: you in the third, fourth rounds, Like yeah, they're they're

1078
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: they're they're going that route.

1079
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is horrible, this is so I here's the thing.

1080
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I am not a Steelers fan, so when I say this,

1081
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: it will not have an emotional impact on me as

1082
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: opposed to somebody who waives a terrible towel and whatever.

1083
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: But at some point, if you're the Steelers, you just

1084
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of have to bottom out, right, Like, you just

1085
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: gotta bottom out. Like I almost think it's more productive

1086
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: in the long run to start Mason Rudolph or to

1087
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: see what you have with Will have Maybe start, you know,

1088
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: midway through the season, see what you have with Will Howard,

1089
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: and just bottom out as opposed to, you know, we're

1090
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: gonna have a winning record, we're gonna get a low

1091
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: seed in the playoffs and then probably get bounced in

1092
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: the first round and then get like a mid to

1093
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: late first round pick. That doesn't really help us build

1094
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: the ball club. You know, they're just they're just hanging

1095
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: out in football purgatory. It's not good if.

1096
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: The quarterback play is going to be as poor the

1097
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: running backs are gonna eat. So Caleb Johnson to the

1098
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: freaking moon, because we've seen Arthur Smith pull this with that.

1099
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Did it hurts your heart to say that?

1100
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: It kind of did. But he landed. He landed in

1101
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: the spot that I said I would be okay with.

1102
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: He was another one, him and Luther Burden. I was like,

1103
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: landing spot will matter, and he landed at the one

1104
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: spot that I cared about. So it's one of those

1105
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: things that you got to look at those running backs horn.

1106
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember who I saw post this, maybe it

1107
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: was maybe our pal Andy Barons, but because it was

1108
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: like you loved him when he was called Najie Harris.

1109
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it feels like with Caleb Faster,

1110
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: or that's what it feels like.

1111
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: That's how I kind of feel about Marion Hampton as well.

1112
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Interesting. I don't know. I like him, Mariy Hampton,

1113
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I think as well, But you know, like I think,

1114
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: I think, I think the Naji Harris situation in LA

1115
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: could be fairly short lived. And so then that just

1116
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: opens the door.

1117
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: Drafting Hampton as a friend.

1118
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: Marion Hampton, don't leave the draft without him.

1119
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 3: Another around on my draft.

1120
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: The other day, what.

1121
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: People. Wow, I think the thing is he's going to

1122
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: quickly steal that job. I don't think Nausey ever fully

1123
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 3: goes away.

1124
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he ever goes away. No, absolutely not.

1125
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, that's that's a hell of an investment.

1126
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: It's a hell of an investment.

1127
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: Glad. I'm not the only one who thought that was early.

1128
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: That's what's rich Ano. The bonus question for you, Florio,

1129
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: how early does the quand draft Jordan James noted Seahawks fan, obviously,

1130
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's also transitioning to being a forty nine

1131
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: Ers fan at the same time, knowing how much he

1132
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: loved Jordan Mason and was like banging the table for

1133
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason. Now that Jordan James is sort of in

1134
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: that spot, how early does Lakwan draft him?

1135
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: Uh? I don't think not high at all. I think

1136
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 3: he's gonna be like, I don't like this guy. He's

1137
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: not Jordan Mason. I don't want him on my team.

1138
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: But I do think he's joining IDP leagues right now

1139
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: to get Chris Paul Junior on his rosters. To my mind,

1140
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: that he is not related to the point guard that

1141
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: is kind of wild.

1142
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: Actually, no, I love first of all, I love both

1143
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: those players. Okay, I love Chris Ball. He's coming in

1144
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: as a smaller linebacker, but he is side to side

1145
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: and does not miss tackles. Jordan James, my friend, I'm

1146
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: getting maximum exposure as many as I am right now

1147
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: because he has far more production than Jordan Mason did

1148
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: in college. So there's that. And he is far better

1149
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: than Isaac Grendo and many attributing trades of where Grendo

1150
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: camp pass block. Okay, and I just told you that

1151
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: he has far more production than Jordan Mason did in college.

1152
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: And you're looking at a guy that shared the backfield

1153
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: with Bucky Irvin that had eleven touchdowns in twenty twenty three.

1154
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: And I might be an Oregon Duck fan honestly because

1155
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: we got Terrence Ferguson. I love Bucky Hervin, I love

1156
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Jordan James. Let's go Ducks.

1157
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: Quack Quack black crack, get you a gets you a

1158
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: Puddles the Duck T shirt so you can rock that.

1159
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: I might have to, man, I might have to.

1160
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fine. I'm trying to find the list

1161
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: of Rams opponents for twenty twenty five, simply because you know,

1162
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals have an offensive lineman named Michael Jordan and

1163
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, will Michael Jordans have to block Chris

1164
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: Paul Junior.

1165
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 3: That would be awesome at.

1166
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: Some point this season.

1167
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: That's all MG question for you, as the forty nine

1168
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 3: Ers guy on this show. Yes, James or Girndo. Who

1169
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: do you think is the RB two there?

1170
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's Grindo, but the recent

1171
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: history of forty nine Ers running back suggests that Jordan

1172
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: James is going to play at some point.

1173
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: So I got James RB two by the end of camp.

1174
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a Girndo guy. I'm hoping he wins it out.

1175
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I think Garrindo's gonna be

1176
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: the guy. But I mean it's I mean, the way

1177
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: the Niners backfield operates is it's just kind of a title,

1178
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: you know.

1179
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Like a guy if he couldn't beat

1180
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: out Jordan Mason when the opportunity was served up for

1181
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: both of them equally, Like if I just told you

1182
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: Jordan James is better than Jordan Mason, there's no way

1183
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Isaac Grendro's gonna overleap this guy. No, I'm finite.

1184
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: I think we saw I think what you saw out

1185
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: of Grindo, especially when he got the chance last season,

1186
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: suggested that he gets first DIBs over you know, the

1187
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: guy they just brought in. I mean, look, I could

1188
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: be wrong, but I'm saying that right now. I think,

1189
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: isaa grinde'z your RB two in San Francisco?

1190
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: The value on Jordan James, ladies and gentlemen.

1191
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: So where so then where are you drafted? You're taking

1192
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: him in what round?

1193
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Fourteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen? He's on my roster, maximum exposure

1194
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: Jordan James for the next couple of years, and even

1195
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: in rookie drafts. Right now, he's going in the fourth round.

1196
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm not leaving any of these rookie drafts are

1197
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: coming up in the next week without him. That's just

1198
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: how hard I'm bounding the table.

1199
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm here for it. I'm ready to

1200
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: see it. Take one more break, come back. We'll talk

1201
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: some more risers and followers. I was gonna call it

1202
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: winners and losers, but that seemed kind of harsh, So

1203
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: will risers and followers coming up after the break here

1204
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All Right, so he's

1205
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of gone through our likes and dislikes for days

1206
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: two and three of the draft. So now we can

1207
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: sort of take the big picture view looking at this

1208
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: as a whole, figuring out the guys that sort of

1209
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: gained in terms of, you know, our opinion of them

1210
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: and what they mean for fantasy the guys who fell

1211
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: both on the rookie and veterans side. So let's start

1212
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: with the rookies. Florio, who was your big rookie riser

1213
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: from this draft base j'all twoton.

1214
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 3: I think he got to go to the Jags and look,

1215
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 3: it's a new regime there, and so I know people

1216
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: are gonna look at like Tank big B and Travis

1217
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 3: etn and be like, oh, but they have good guys there,

1218
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: do they? You watched your eyes. The Jaguars play football

1219
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: and try to run the ball last year, and two

1220
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: In is fast, real like, arguably the fastest running back

1221
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: in this class. So I think there's an opportunity for

1222
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 3: him to come in there and potentially steal the lead

1223
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 3: roll away or at least have a large share of

1224
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: the touches in that backfield and two in was a

1225
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: prospect that I like he he was going to gain

1226
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: or lose a lot based on landing spot, Like he

1227
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: wasn't a surefire guy. And then as mock I did

1228
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: the other day, he went in the middle of the

1229
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: eighth round, ahead of like Cam Skataboo and Luther Burden

1230
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 3: and some other guys. So I think he was a

1231
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: huge riser because of the opportunity he's gonna get.

1232
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: All right, you're your rookie riser. Uhok one.

1233
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: So the riser for me was Trey Harris and the

1234
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: landing spot in LA was such a huge spot for

1235
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: him because how quickly is he going to make us

1236
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: forget that Mike Williams and Quinton Johnston is on the

1237
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: team just based on what he brings to the table.

1238
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: So I think that was a home run pick for them.

1239
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: They needed an X Y receiver. He's your prototype guy.

1240
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you look at last year what he

1241
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: did with Jackson dark down deep intermediate, Like he's a

1242
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: guy that he's definitely going to be heavily targeted in

1243
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: the red zone. So he's one of those guys that

1244
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: you got to look at the end of those rounds

1245
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: when you want for upside at the wide receiver position

1246
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: with a rookie, because we've been seeing rookie wide receivers

1247
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: just produce and become Fantasy relevant in their first year.

1248
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: So he's definitely one of them you gotta have on

1249
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: that list.

1250
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, and not that I think he's gonna

1251
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: be great, but I think Tyler Schuck just ended up

1252
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: really land I mean, he ended the perfect spot. I mean,

1253
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: this is a guy that we weren't sure where he

1254
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: was gonna go, but I think the the open thought

1255
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: was he was gonna be a backup somewhere, right, I mean,

1256
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: cam Ward was always slated to go to Tennessee. There

1257
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: were questions about where Shader Sanders was going to land,

1258
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: but it seemed like he was going to be in

1259
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: a really good spot to compete and maybe even in

1260
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: an open spot. Even the thought was when we heard

1261
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: about the Derek Carr situation, that it was Jackson Dart

1262
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: going to New Orleans, Right, it was supposed to be

1263
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: a Jackson Dart opportunity, maybe competing with Derek Carr. Instead

1264
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: it's Tyler Shuck who lands there and he's shucked up.

1265
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: That could go both ways, right, like if he plays badly, like, no, man,

1266
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: you're shucking up down there, Yeah, the whole thing. But

1267
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: he did. He's walked into a legitimate opportunity to be

1268
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: a starter in his first year. You know, we'll see

1269
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: what this camp battle with Spencer Rattler turns out to be.

1270
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: But it's definitely a better situation for him than I

1271
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: think anybody would have anticipated before we went through this

1272
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: whole draft process. Rookie Faller, for you, Florio a veteran,

1273
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: No rookie, do you have a rookie? Do you have

1274
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: somebody on the phone.

1275
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: Oh wait to Faller. Sorry, I was already thinking about

1276
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: veterans already.

1277
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1278
00:59:54,680 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: I think for year one for redraft back a mecca

1279
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: at BUKA. I think he his landing spot wasn't ideal

1280
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: because like, if he went to a spot where he

1281
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: was going to get opportunity, he was he could have

1282
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: been like a wide receiver three for fantasy purposes. But

1283
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: now I think he is purely just like a late

1284
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: round dart throw. And I get it long term with

1285
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: the Bucks that they're trying to get their replacement options

1286
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: in the building before they're needed. Injuries. Mike Evans is

1287
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: getting up there, Chris Godwin has a lengthy injury history,

1288
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But like week one, when those guys

1289
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: are healthy, it's gonna be Evans, a Godwin, and two

1290
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: wide receiver sets, and it's gonna be him and McMillan

1291
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: competing to be that third wide receiver there. I don't

1292
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: think any one of them besides those top two guys

1293
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: are gonna get enough consistent volume where you could start them.

1294
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: But if he went to a right the right landing spot,

1295
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: I think he could have been a very a viable

1296
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: fantasy starter.

1297
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was why I know we were all confused

1298
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: about on Thursday when it happened. Is kind of what

1299
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: the plan was for Abuka for sure, que who is

1300
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: your rookie faller for this thing?

1301
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: That has to be Matthew Golden. I think we were

1302
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: all excited about the combine with him and like potential

1303
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: landing spots and like we were all trying to fit

1304
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: and pick where he was going to go. But then

1305
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: he ended up in Green Bay and it's like, come on, man,

1306
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: you guys have enough wide receivers you're trying to figure

1307
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: out how to utilize and you guys obviously need a one,

1308
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: And then you go with Matthew Golden, like, I like,

1309
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 2: who will win a thousand Green Bay pack or wide

1310
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: receivers or a hundred gorillas, Like this is where we're at.

1311
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: There's just too many. There's just too many pack or

1312
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: why receivers. Bro Like, I just don't see him being

1313
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: fantasy relevant in year one. Like He'll have his moments,

1314
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: but the most frustrating thing about fantasy is like I'm

1315
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: not getting majority of my points in winning championships off

1316
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: of moments, Like I need a consistent guy, and like,

1317
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: I can't see myself taking him off the draft boarder

1318
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: even in rookie drafts, being like really bullish on him.

1319
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew Golden was mine too, just for all the

1320
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: things you said.

1321
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: Well, Tyler Warren, I mean we can go that route

1322
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, another faller. It's oh man, sorry.

1323
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: Because the quarterback situation, if they can figure that out,

1324
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: I think it's fine.

1325
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I think I'm gonna be the Tyler Warren

1326
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: guy in fantasy because let's go back one year, we

1327
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: were saying bad quarterback play, too many target comps, all

1328
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: of that for brock Bowers yeah, it was Gardner Minshew.

1329
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: Right like Oconnell and yeah, yeah, maybe.

1330
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: That was Vegas arguably worse. I'd rather have Shane Stikeen.

1331
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you are You're trying to get me back

1332
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: in on him, because I was feel like he's gonna

1333
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: get me out.

1334
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: He's gonna end up in the satchel of discontent. Man,

1335
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: he's already picking out a room in there. Man, the

1336
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: bag is growling like. I think he's already gonna make

1337
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: some housing over there with Kyle Pitts.

1338
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be my most tight end.

1339
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: Two.

1340
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, head into you all right, up on

1341
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: that train. That's a short trip.

1342
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: To that's tight end too, for sure.

1343
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: Discontent.

1344
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: That's about it. All right, Let's get onto the veterans

1345
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: side of things. Uh, Florida. Your your veteran riser who

1346
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: got helped this weekend.

1347
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift I think was the biggest winner. Because the

1348
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: Bears went out this offseason. Obviously they're bringing Ben Johnson,

1349
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: they dramatically increased the interior part of their offensive line.

1350
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: They added Luther Burden, they added Loveland, so you have

1351
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: a lot of pass catchers there. They did literally nothing

1352
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: to add to the running back room. And there was

1353
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 3: like four different times in this draft where we saw

1354
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: a running back or two go off the board and

1355
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: the Bears traded out, So like, I think they had

1356
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: in mind some specific running backs, but it didn't work out.

1357
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 3: And this narrative that Ben Johnson hates DeAndre Swift, I

1358
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: think is silly because like, yeah, he replaced him in

1359
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: Detroit with Jamiir Gibbs, Like, yeah, that's the right call.

1360
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: He was a good scout. He did what was best

1361
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: for his offense. But whether it be DeAndre Swift or

1362
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 3: like Roshawn Johnson who's going in the double digit rounds,

1363
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: I just want to take both of those two guys

1364
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: in my drafts and know that I have Ben Johnson's

1365
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: lead running back on my roster.

1366
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: All right, I don't. I don't hate that at all,

1367
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, I just yeah, I don't know. I don't

1368
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: know if his long term future is, but I think

1369
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: the short term I think he's I think he's fine

1370
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: there in Chicago.

1371
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I target with Ben Johnson that year. I'll tell

1372
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: you that PPR is just.

1373
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: A one year thing.

1374
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: He'll be replaced after this year.

1375
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: He probably will be Yeah, for sure, who's your veteran

1376
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: that won this weekend?

1377
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 2: QUI I mean, is he a veteran Chase Brown? I

1378
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: mean he came out as a winner, you know, like

1379
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: they didn't really go out there and get like one

1380
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: of these high profile prospects. But there could be a

1381
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: trade pending, who knows. I don't know. I mean the

1382
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: Bengals traded for a running back last season, so I

1383
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't think that, you know, Chase Brown is

1384
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: going to be looking too bad going in those early

1385
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: rounds with a maximum workload, like they took Tie Brooks,

1386
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: Like he's not going to be competing for touches, you know,

1387
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: or Chase Brown. So the upside is there for him

1388
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: to be one of the top ten running backs at

1389
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 2: the end of the season. So shout out Chase Brown.

1390
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: All right, I have a trio. They all kind of

1391
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: fit in the same box, right, young quarterbacks that got

1392
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: helped Drake May, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud. Their teams went

1393
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: out and made it a point to bring in help,

1394
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: whether it was wide receiver, running back, even a little

1395
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: bit of offensive line help. But I think these teams

1396
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: understand the value, or at least the perceived value of

1397
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: being able to win with a quarterback on their first contract,

1398
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: especially for the Texans who had the big rookie year

1399
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: from CJ. Stroud wasn't quite as great in year two,

1400
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: but feel like the window is still open. They're trying

1401
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: to make sure that they can get him back to

1402
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: where he was in year one. With Bryce Young, I

1403
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: think the Panthers saw the evolution of him at the

1404
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: end of last season, and now they're like, let's add

1405
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: some more pieces. I mean them getting adding it at

1406
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: Tech McMillan early on, I think goes a long way

1407
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: toward helping him out. But they went out and added, yeah,

1408
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: some other pieces there in that wide receiver room. I

1409
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: think I'll get Jimmy Horn Junior in the sixth round.

1410
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: They draft Trevor Eatz in the running back spot in

1411
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: the fourth round. They really are trying to make things

1412
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: better for Bryce Young there in Carolina. And then Drake May.

1413
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about everything the Patriots did going

1414
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: out of getting wide receiver help, getting running back help.

1415
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, they obviously see the vision with Drake May there,

1416
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: and you know they bring in Josh McDaniels to be

1417
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: the play caller run the offense there. So I think

1418
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: all three of those young quarterbacks had a very good

1419
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: weekend as because of what their teams did around them.

1420
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: Because I can never, you know, help but end this

1421
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: show on a bad note. One day, I'll learn Today's

1422
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: not that day, Hope, Floya, who's your veteran that fell

1423
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: this weekend?

1424
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: There was a lot of running backs that I think

1425
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: could have rose or fallen this weekend, and sadly, Jalen

1426
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: Warren fell, Like.

1427
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I want him.

1428
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: I just want one year of what Jalen Warren could

1429
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: be as a lead back. But Mike Tomlin and the

1430
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: Steelers have shown us that they think he is just

1431
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 3: a really good RB two change of pace guy. They

1432
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 3: don't think he can be that workhorse guy because they

1433
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: went out they used a premium pick on Caleb Johnson

1434
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: and we were joking about it. But the new nause

1435
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: Harris right, Like, I think the split and the usage

1436
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 3: is gonna be pretty similar to what we've seen in

1437
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, which means that Warren is

1438
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: an RB three for fantasy purposes. He'll have a couple

1439
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 3: of big games, but you we're not going to get

1440
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: the ceiling that we were hoping to get out of him.

1441
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah.

1442
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know, I love my rams. I

1443
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: mean this is an obvious faller right here with Kyra

1444
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Williams because he was already falling before the draft before

1445
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: we went out and got a running back again that

1446
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: we do every year. But you have to feel for

1447
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: the guy, like honestly, like I love everything he did

1448
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: for us for these last couple of seasons. But Jarquez

1449
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: Hunter is on the way and he's gonna be hunting

1450
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: for that job. And honestly, look at it, like you

1451
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: got a guy that has no gloves when he's toting

1452
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: that rock. This is kambu grip on that ball, like

1453
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: he's filling the area that we need and that's ball security.

1454
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 2: Kyron cannot keep dropping these balls. Two crucial balls in

1455
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: both Eagles games that he dropped the ball. And look,

1456
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: dark Quez only had one fumble last season. So therefore,

1457
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: you got a guy that's a workhorse, that is an

1458
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: Auburn guy. You know, Lesnian and his connection mean that

1459
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: he's an Auburn guy. I see the favoritism of going

1460
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: into this next season where he's gonna have to split

1461
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: that load. He's already taking a step back in that

1462
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 2: red zone area because We're going to be throwing the

1463
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: ball as heavy as we were when Matthew Stafford first

1464
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: got there in LA in twenty twenty one because of

1465
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: Devonte Adams and Pokin Nakula. So you're throwing all those

1466
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: factors in. There's no way I could see Kyron even

1467
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: being a top ten running back this season.

1468
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: He just went Blake corm out on the sidewalk with

1469
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: a sign that says.

1470
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh he's there. He'll be mixed in all right.

1471
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: As didn't know if you were done with him either.

1472
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: I love him.

1473
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: He hasn't gotten on the bat list yet.

1474
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: For those of y'all who don't know. By the way,

1475
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: like Lakwan has this love hate relationship with Kyrien Williams,

1476
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 1: Like it just really depends on the day how he

1477
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: feels about Kyen Williams.

1478
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: Wasn't it Thursday night? You were like, I'm back in,

1479
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 3: Like yeah.

1480
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: Like, well, basically because he saw somebody else, he saw

1481
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: somebody else sort of hating on kyn Williams, and it

1482
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, like you know, you can't hate

1483
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,560
Speaker 1: like I can hate on Kyrin because he's like on

1484
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: my team. But you can't get it. You get big brother,

1485
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: big brother, little brother. Thing like I can talk trash

1486
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: about Kyra but you can't.

1487
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: So he was man the love of the game, the

1488
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 2: love for the Brams, that you cannot drop that ball

1489
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: and he's not really that explosive. So that's one of

1490
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: those things that you know, come on, we got to

1491
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: pick it up, you know, I mean.

1492
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: Usurped or do you think that he's the lead guy.

1493
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: But Hunter just plays a big enough role where it prevents.

1494
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: Look, Kyra will be the lead back, he will eat first.

1495
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: It's just that he's gonna have to share his plate.

1496
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: And that's honestly what we started to see after that

1497
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: Saints game last season, getting Blake Orn sprinkled in right

1498
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: before the playoffs, Korm gets injured and we don't ever

1499
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: get to see that at a full dynamic of that

1500
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: one two punch. You bring in hunter ball security and explosiveness.

1501
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: I mean ninety four yard touchdown run he had last season,

1502
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: which was the longest in program history for Alburt. These

1503
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: are areas that we needed in him and he's not

1504
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: providing that. So we need to get the ball less

1505
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: in his hand so he doesn't fumble it. That's just

1506
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: literally what it is.

1507
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: Man, thirteen hundred plus yards and double digit touchdowns fifteen.

1508
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 2: Plus touchdown in the next seasons, fumble at the fumble

1509
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: and fumble.

1510
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 3: I think Kurrent's underrated, but that's just me.

1511
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: I do too, So yeah, okay, that's fine, It's all right,

1512
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: uh for me. And maybe he wasn't the biggest faller,

1513
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: but I think Sam Darnold, you know, they the Seahawks

1514
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: sent him a reminder that you're you know, you might

1515
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: be here for a good time, but you're not here

1516
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: for a long time. Buddy. You'll be comfortable, right, I mean,

1517
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: it's not This is not on par with the Falcons

1518
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: going out and drafting Michael Pinnox in the top ten

1519
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. But this is just like, hey, man,

1520
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: like you're not the future here, like we were glad

1521
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: you're here. We respected what you did last year in Minnesota,

1522
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: but we are planning for the future. In that future

1523
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: right now looks like Jaln Milrose. So don't get comfortable.

1524
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look at buying long term real estate in

1525
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: Seattle unless you just happened like the area, so you

1526
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: did something to keep in mind. And now obviously they're

1527
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: putting weapons there around him. You know, they go out

1528
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: and get Yeah, they bringing Cooper Cup, who I know

1529
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: is not what he was a few years ago, but

1530
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: still a guy who can make plays for you. You know,

1531
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: they are bringing in wide receiver weapons, are bringing wide

1532
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: receiver help. You mentioned Elijah Royo. They bring in at

1533
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: the tight end spot. So they're trying to do things

1534
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: to help the offense a little bit. But I think

1535
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: for for Sam Donald, this is a thing where he's

1536
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: kind of looking over his shoulder a little bit at the.

1537
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 2: Least seen the movie before kind.

1538
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Sam Donald, JJ McCarthy kind of thing that thing.

1539
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: And also would Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts. I mean

1540
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: they brought me weapons from Wentz and then here you go,

1541
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: here's the new hot toy that can run.

1542
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're too invested in year one too.

1543
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: No, year one. I think it's Donald's. It's Donald's gig.

1544
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: But it hurts.

1545
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 2: It took a little while, but we saw it, so

1546
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 2: who knows what happens?

1547
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: Don't get I mean you even go back to what

1548
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: was it Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson. I mean, you know,

1549
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: you could go back to the same Seattle Seahawks, right,

1550
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't mad. Never forget that Mike Glennon

1551
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: was the reason that Russell Wilson had to transfer and

1552
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: then Mike Glennon, Mike Glennon got picked over Russell Wilson

1553
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: in a quarterback competition. Ed. Yeah, man, uh so Wilson

1554
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: left in c State, went to Wisconsin, but NFL.

1555
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: He went to the Bears.

1556
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: He was the starter Whenbisky was there.

1557
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, he also was in I think

1558
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: it was in Tampa for him.

1559
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a journeyman for sure.

1560
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: Yes, drafted by Tampa, went to the Bears for a year. Cardinals, Raiders, Jaguars, Giants.

1561
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: When did the Cardinals happen? It must have been Rosen er, right,

1562
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 2: he must have been.

1563
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: It was the ros In year.

1564
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, makes sense.

1565
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 3: Dude, Josh Rosen. I know we got to end. But

1566
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 3: he caught such a stray yesterday because people were calling

1567
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: out the Bills GM for not drafting a GM and

1568
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: he just went up on the radio and was like,

1569
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, you guys wanted Josh Rosen And I

1570
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, dude.

1571
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: Ross in business school, just mine in his own business, right,

1572
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: now and I will I will take this off today.

1573
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: I thought Josh Rosen would. I didn't think he had

1574
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling, but I thought he was the most

1575
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: ready to go out of the guys in that draft.

1576
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: I thought he was the most pro ready. You got

1577
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: Steve Wilks fired. Yeah, open the door, Open the door

1578
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray and Arizona. Here you go. There, it

1579
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: is all right, BF show. That was to be expected

1580
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: after everything that went down over the weekend. Back on Thursday,

1581
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: tried to a mock draft. Huh, maybe we can get

1582
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 1: a mock draft going tomorrow. Maybe get to going tomorrow.

1583
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: We could talk about it potentially on Thursday, because you

1584
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: know now that that guys have homes, that's going to

1585
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: change a whole lot of things. So either way, we'll

1586
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: come up with games, we'll come home something to talk

1587
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: about on Thursday, and then we'll talk about, you know,

1588
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: where LaQuan drafted, Terrence Ferguson and all that kind of stuff.

1589
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: So that spoiler I did not. That'll do it for

1590
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy

1591
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: saying healthy, do good and live well. Enjoying the week everybody.

1592
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: We will talk to you again on Thursday, wo