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Speaker 1: Welcome into the best podcast available Training Camp Audition. This

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Speaker 1: is episode number two of our training camp coverage. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs alongside Nathan Sagirl, our senior media broadcaster. That's right,

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Speaker 1: you did it? Did I do it? Right? All right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you actually did get it. I think you're trying to

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Speaker 1: say correspondent because I keep your tongue, but then you

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Speaker 1: came with broadcast. You actually nailed it. So here we

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Speaker 1: are listen, it's training camp. We're gonna get ready for

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Speaker 1: the season. And and now you have correctly titled me,

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Speaker 1: which again I don't know what the title means per se,

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Speaker 1: but it's been the title for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: so big luminaries. Walking by the b p A right now,

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Speaker 1: we're just walking by one of the owners of the

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Speaker 1: Cleve Browns. He has I'm walking by and this is

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Speaker 1: what we're trying. This is it's big time stuff. Here.

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Speaker 1: We're getting ready. We are getting ready and getting closer

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Speaker 1: to welcoming fans to training camp for the season. That

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Speaker 1: happens on Friday. The pads come on Tuesday. We're here

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Speaker 1: to recap the first two days though that fans were

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Speaker 1: not able to see, but we weren't able to take

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Speaker 1: it in more of an acclamation period and really getting

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Speaker 1: up to speed with how things are going to go.

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Speaker 1: But z uh, it's one of those to recap the

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Speaker 1: last two days, it was very business like like. There

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of joking around, a little fun,

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Speaker 1: but there was definitely a serious tone to just getting

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Speaker 1: in and as coach Defanski said, getting the work done. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's look I think when you have a locker

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Speaker 1: room full of the names and the players that the

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Speaker 1: Browns do, they look around, they know this team has

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Speaker 1: the talent to do something special. And then you know

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Speaker 1: you've got the reigning coach of the year, so you

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Speaker 1: know you have a coaching staff that's gonna put you

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Speaker 1: in a position to succeed. And so it's all about

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Speaker 1: handling the business that doing the work that needs to

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Speaker 1: be put in to make sure that come, you know,

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Speaker 1: games that matter come September the twelve against Cance City,

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Speaker 1: and even this team is thinking, yes, of course we

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Speaker 1: as this season goes on, and it is about getting

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Speaker 1: this team ready to play meaningful football November, December, January

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Speaker 1: and hopefully into February, and so yeah, it has been

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Speaker 1: And I think that this is a team that's very

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Speaker 1: for itself. And I think we're seeing these kind of

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Speaker 1: that's something fans are gonna enjoy seeing how Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is an acclamation here the highlights of

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Speaker 1: where we're at right now. In the eleven on elevens,

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Speaker 1: it's very much a jog through. In fact, on the

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Speaker 1: The speed of Anthony Schwartz is on display. I'd say

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Speaker 1: the maturation, the development of Donovan People's jones has been

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Speaker 1: can't be overstated. You talk to anybody who played in

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Speaker 1: and I think you're seeing it in the way that

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Speaker 1: seeing some of these new guys come in and buildings

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Speaker 1: and Malik Jackson and all making a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an impact. It's so hard to tell. And even in

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Speaker 1: who's he Greg Newsome looks good. I mean his ability

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Speaker 1: not winning games here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus,

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Speaker 1: like that? And how do you approach it? Uh? Like

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Speaker 1: just fielding the punt, feeling the kick. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: know that's that's something that that appreciate emphasis, big emphasis. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Coach prev Black, I told you he he always gonna

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Speaker 1: have high expectations for us as a group, and you

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Speaker 1: know he he pushes us hard to meet those expectations.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely the expectations for this year is very

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Speaker 1: high and we look forward to accomplishing it. But those

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Speaker 1: that we have set out for each other as a group,

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Speaker 1: and you've got that continuity, and then on the defensive

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Speaker 1: as big as big. Just keeping keeping the family and

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Speaker 1: the group together, that's that's really big. You know, we

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Speaker 1: all has build relationships with each other and for us

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Speaker 1: to you know, you've been going with another year being

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Speaker 1: together bundant, that's really big. And I know we've talked

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Speaker 1: that something you were able to be a part of

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Me and Chris Hubbert kind of was. Me

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Speaker 1: was the only two rehabbing that facility. So me and

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Speaker 1: like it was kind of different with those guys because

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Speaker 1: pretty good least ship. Especially we both had knee injury.

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Speaker 1: So when you tell people about what you went through,

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Speaker 1: what something people don't know about the recovery from a

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Speaker 1: athletes go through it, but we just assumed. We assume

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Speaker 1: it's a ground I could tell you that because you

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Speaker 1: know someday you're gonna have you know how days when

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Speaker 1: you're up, you know how days when you're down. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's all about you know, trusting the process. And you

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Speaker 1: know I didn't, I didn't. I didn't think of it

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Speaker 1: like that, you know, the first couple of months out

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Speaker 1: you know, the back end of the recovery. I just

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Speaker 1: started to trust the process. And you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's a grind, but you know, we we made it

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Speaker 1: this far. I mean this it's nothing to Giant. And

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Speaker 1: we saw you doing a lot of those jet sweeps

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Speaker 1: and things like that in training camp last year. Is

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Speaker 1: that's something that's still uh an area where you can

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Speaker 1: help out this team? Yeah, I hope so oh so.

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Speaker 1: And just looking at the expectations we've heard about it

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Speaker 1: high expectations. How is he preached that to you guys,

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Speaker 1: and how how's it being received? It has been received

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Speaker 1: really well and all the guys definitely binding the coach

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Speaker 1: Stabatsky since day one, he's been our coach. We all

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Speaker 1: know what he's about. You know, we're all about you know,

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Speaker 1: have lone but respect for coach. Like I say, his expectations.

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Speaker 1: H we uh. You know, we all working hard towards

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Speaker 1: towards that. You know, we all got you know, a goal.

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Speaker 1: I ask you this. I know in the off season

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Speaker 1: you've got two of your former teammates on this roster

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Speaker 1: as well, and in Troy and John Johnson too. Men,

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Speaker 1: what what kind of players are those guys that can

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Speaker 1: help out this team? M man? When I when I

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Speaker 1: heard we signed those guys out, decided both of those

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Speaker 1: guys and they some they some ballss. They some ballss.

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Speaker 1: So I definitely look forward to seeing him come over

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Speaker 1: there and made some plays. They're definitely some ballless. And

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Speaker 1: then looking ahead to the preseason, you said winning a

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Speaker 1: competition is huge with what you do in these preseason games.

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Speaker 1: How how exciting is it that you get a normal

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Speaker 1: preseason this year for for a guy like you, that's

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Speaker 1: that's in me, got a lot of me most definitely

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Speaker 1: looking preseason, you know, coming off the edge, y'all, I

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Speaker 1: feel like I got a lot of pool. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think these preseason games will be would be real

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Speaker 1: good for me to go out there and prove that.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely big compared to last season though a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys didn't really get opportunity so so they

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Speaker 1: can do. But this year is going to be good

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Speaker 1: now that we've got some preseason games. Well, Joe, Joe,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Uh. I know it's early in

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Speaker 1: training camps to the drive the grind really hasn't fully started,

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Speaker 1: but you seem pretty locked in so so good luck

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Speaker 1: the rest of August and and when we'll see out

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Speaker 1: there all right. Thanks again to Joe Joe Natson. Browns fans,

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