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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jeff Tig, former champion with the Bunks.

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Speaker 2: He's the head coach of Pike High School in Indianapolis's

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Speaker 2: alma mater. A couple think an All Star in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: former first round pick of the Hanks. Great podcast, by

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Speaker 2: the Way, five point twenty in the morning. So Jeff

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Speaker 2: Tig joins us on the program. What happened last night?

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Speaker 2: Why did Indiana dominate Club five twenty? I should say.

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Speaker 3: Indiana played with a lot of energy. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: the bench was fantastic. They've been fantastic all series. But

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Speaker 3: they played with so much energy. You can tell that

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Speaker 3: they really wanted to get the win last night.

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Speaker 2: But when you go to the bench, if you're a

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Speaker 2: coach and you know your bench is your strength or

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Speaker 2: one of your strength, can you go to the bench

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Speaker 2: too soon in a situation like that?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah? But I think that's what makes Indiana a

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Speaker 3: great team, Like they can go to the e bench

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Speaker 3: early and they know they're gonna get some effective play. TJ.

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Speaker 3: Nash if we call him TJ McConnell and he plays

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Speaker 3: so well, I mean he comes off the bench with

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Speaker 3: so much energy, and he changed the dynamic of the

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Speaker 3: game every time he steps on the floor. So when

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Speaker 3: you know you had that bolt of energy coming off

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Speaker 3: the bench, it's never too late to put him in.

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Speaker 2: He gets paid to be annoying, doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: What's it like when you face that annoying guy, that

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Speaker 2: hustle guy never quits high motor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, you kinda he kind of pitts

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Speaker 3: you on your toes a little bit, Like you know,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna come in with that energy. You got to

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Speaker 3: protect the ball. So as soon as he checks in,

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Speaker 3: you like, here we go, he come to TASMANI and double,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be all over the floor. He's gonna be everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And playing against him was annoying. But watching him play

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Speaker 3: and probably like his teammates, probably loved him for sure.

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Speaker 2: Explain the defense with the Pacers. We talk about Okayc's defense,

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Speaker 2: but you're turning. You know, Shay had eight turnovers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they that's not typical. So what happened last

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Speaker 2: night that kind of turned them into a turnover machine?

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Speaker 3: Indiana was flying around, they were on a string and

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Speaker 3: They're not known for being really a physical team throughout

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Speaker 3: the regular season, but this playoffs matchups they've been so

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Speaker 3: physical and attacking the ball, and they're making the shasy bodies.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nim Hart did a wonderful job last night

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Speaker 3: staying in front of him trying to make them make

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Speaker 3: tough shots. But every time he was spin or go

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Speaker 3: behind his back, he will be a second defender there.

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Speaker 3: And they played a team defense last night. Miles Turner

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Speaker 3: was big in the paint. It was just an overall

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Speaker 3: great team effort.

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Speaker 2: And now the pressure on game in Game seven on okay,

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Speaker 2: shit right.

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Speaker 4: All on?

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Speaker 3: Ok see. I mean they played really well at home,

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Speaker 3: we know that, but a couple of those shots missed

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Speaker 3: early in that game. They could get a little spooky.

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Speaker 3: I think the Pacers are playing with a lot of confidence.

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Speaker 3: They really don't have anything to lose. Everybody expects them

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Speaker 3: to lose on a game seven on the road, so

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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna play free. I can imagine Tyrese Haliburn

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Speaker 3: having a big game. I'm actually taking the Pacers in

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Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you have the Pacers from the beginning, because

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Speaker 2: you know, oh you get okay, see okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had okay, see, but I told some of

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Speaker 3: the guys that on the podcast with me, if it

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Speaker 3: made it to a Game seven, I was gonna take

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Speaker 3: the Pacers just because I know the pressures that could

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Speaker 3: be on. In the game seven.

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Speaker 2: Playing through an injury. Halliburton played what twenty three minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because that kind of injury, you'd probably be missing games

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Speaker 2: during the regular season, but you can't sit down, go

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Speaker 2: back in, go sit down. Like it felt like Carlisle

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Speaker 2: is gonna go. I'll get as much as I can

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Speaker 2: for as long as I can. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if three days of rest how that impacts that kind

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Speaker 3: Probably not. I mean, he probably need a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks to get back healthy. But I just think that

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Speaker 3: that spirit, that toughness that he's playing through it, I

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Speaker 3: think and went throughout the whole team, and you can

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Speaker 3: see how they were playing. They were all connected. It

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Speaker 3: was like they were they had one goals to get

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Speaker 3: to that Game seven, and I think they kind of

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Speaker 3: carry that energy over to Game seven. I think the

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Speaker 3: Pacers can take it.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Cheeg, you won a championship with the Box in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, head coach of Pike High School in

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis, his alma mater, and his podcast Club five twenty.

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Speaker 2: You tell great stories. You're not afraid to tell great stories.

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Speaker 2: Give me the story that probably got the most reaction

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Speaker 2: after you told it on your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Probably the Jimmy Butler story. Jimmy Butler he had an episode,

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Speaker 3: I would say, during practice where he kind of went

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Speaker 3: off on everybody and he ended up playing us with

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Speaker 3: like some of the guys from the G League and

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Speaker 3: beating us and telling us about it, and I kind

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Speaker 3: of told the backstory to it all. And then he

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Speaker 3: got traded. So it was just a whole funny scenario.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so he's just he's taking names like he's he's

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Speaker 2: going at you guys and bringing in guy to prove

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Speaker 2: that he can. It doesn't matter who he has, he's

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Speaker 2: going to beat you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just wanted to He wanted to get paid

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Speaker 3: and basically he was he was looking to get that

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Speaker 3: he came in and he was trying to wreck shot

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Speaker 3: and he pointed out guys from the front office to

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff to players on the team and he

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Speaker 3: just went at everybody and he had a moment in

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Speaker 3: practice and he was he was killing and he was

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Speaker 3: letting to be known.

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Speaker 2: Is he crazy or calculated?

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Speaker 3: Calculated? It's not crazy at all. But he's gonna get

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Speaker 3: what he wants and he's gonna go to whatever extreme

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Speaker 2: You ever play against the guy who made you a

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Speaker 2: little nervous that he was kind of crazy. Wasn't all there?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, Reggie Evans? He scared me a little bit. Why,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say he wasn't all there, but he

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Speaker 3: he was physical and it just seemed like he wanted

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Speaker 3: to smoke any time. So I had a college teammate

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Speaker 3: named James Johnson who plays for the Pacers and practice

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Speaker 3: sometimes you would think he was all there. But he's

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Speaker 3: very intelligent, very locked in, but he can get he

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Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NBA moment?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the NBA. Uh, I can't even say his name. No,

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Speaker 3: Strona Staviachy bowed me in the nose for trying to

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Speaker 3: dunk on them. That was my welcome to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And what did you do?

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: He held the town to my nose, so no words,

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Speaker 2: you're exchanged.

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Speaker 3: Nah, Like he just he kind of apologized to me,

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, you're not gonna be able to dunk

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Speaker 3: in this league. Man, just help my you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Nothing I can really do what should like to guard

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry.

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Speaker 3: I told a story about that on the podcast. In

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Speaker 3: a preseason game. We went to China for a preseason

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Speaker 3: game when I was in Minnesota, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a preseason game. We're all having a good fun and

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Speaker 3: he's like, before the game, let's play serious. It's like

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Speaker 3: get a good run in the night, y'all. So we're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: and he ended up scoring forty something points on me

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Speaker 3: in front of thirty forty thousand people. I was so mad.

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Speaker 3: If I could have fought Steph Curtin, I would have

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Speaker 3: fault him. But now he's incredible.

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Speaker 2: But when do you know, like, is there any indication

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Speaker 2: when somebody gets on one of those heaters and you

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Speaker 2: just know it doesn't matter what you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with him, when he when he starts dancing and

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Speaker 3: doing all the SIMI and stuff, you know pretty much

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Speaker 3: him in trouble.

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Speaker 2: And then the mouthpiece comes out right in front of you.

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Speaker 3: You get the running around and Dramond Green get to

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Speaker 3: set in the legal screen.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, But you want Draymond on your team, right for sure.

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Speaker 2: But he's but he's a dirty player.

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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't call him dirty. I think he just

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Speaker 3: plays hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you would, you'd call him dirty.

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Speaker 3: Everybody. Everybody got a little dirty. He's just been televised.

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Speaker 2: I would say, well, we do focus on him, but

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Speaker 2: it feels like whatever it takes, he's he's going to do.

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Speaker 2: But he he made himself into a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean he does all the little things.

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Speaker 3: He's a phenomenal defender, he can guard one through five,

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Speaker 3: great playmaker. But he's that guy you want on your team.

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Speaker 3: But you definitely hate playing against him.

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Speaker 2: But you're you're coaching high school now, and I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about this Steph Curry impact on high school basketball. How

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Speaker 2: how much do you coach or coach against that style

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Speaker 3: Uh, nobody can shoot like Steph Curry. So that's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they think they can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the that's the biggest problem. So everybody wants

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Speaker 3: to shoot threes. I'm not against taking threes if you're

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Speaker 3: open to shooting basketball. But uh, it's not even more

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Speaker 3: steph Curry. It's kind of like more James Harden that

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Speaker 3: That's probably the hardest thing to control a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But shooting threes, if you can shoot, I'll let you shoot.

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Speaker 2: What was like when Harden would have get on a heater?

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Speaker 3: Oh, he was the hardest player to ever guard in

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Speaker 3: the NBA besides Dereck Rose for me, because you couldn't

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Speaker 3: touch him. He can get to the foul line at will.

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Speaker 3: He shoot that step back through, like I said, and man,

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Speaker 3: he was incredible when he was averaging like thirty five

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Speaker 3: thirty four points a game. There's nothing you could really

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Speaker 2: If Derek Rose doesn't get hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's to me. If he doesn't get hurt, he's

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Speaker 3: a top five point guard of all time.

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Speaker 2: What made him special.

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Speaker 3: His speed, quickness, his strength, and then his ability to

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Speaker 3: make those floaters and tough shots. And then he was

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Speaker 3: fearless and he never got tired. Literally he I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know how tims for fifty minutes. It's only forty

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Speaker 3: eight in the game, but like he never got tired.

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Speaker 3: He was always ready. He never set out games, and

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Speaker 3: he was always in attack mode.

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Speaker 2: You got a good Lebron story.

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Speaker 3: Lebron's my favorite player all time. So I've never beat

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Speaker 3: him in a playoff series, like, never won a game.

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Speaker 3: So I got like PTSD playing against a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But he's still my favorite player all the time. But

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of slack and a lot of

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Speaker 3: pushback from some guys because I pushed him into the

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Speaker 3: crowd one time because we were losing. I was a

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Speaker 3: sore loser.

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Speaker 4: Wow, And.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a couple of death threats. But we're

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Speaker 4: Great to see you, Dan, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Eight years. Eight years we've been talking about this and

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Speaker 4: Well? Morgan Freeman is the voice of God and a

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Speaker 4: I believe the Madden Cruiser is the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame in Campton, Ohio, and that they use it

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Speaker 4: as a special exhibit and toured around from time to time.

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Speaker 4: And Pro Football Hall of Fame has been great to us.

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Speaker 4: We have a deal with them where they've given us

443
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Speaker 4: some artifacts. They've been great. The Nate Smith Memorial Basketball

444
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, the USGA and the Golf Hall of

445
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Speaker 4: Fame and Graceland. We have something for everybody. We have

446
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Speaker 4: the very first Dan. If you walk the strip right now,

447
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 4: it's one hundred and ten degrees out there. If you

448
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 4: walk the strip, you're going to see twenty people dressed

449
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Speaker 4: as Elvis Presley walking around. Yeah, take their picture. We

450
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: have Elvis Presley's first suit that he wore for his

451
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Speaker 4: first residency from Graceland and the people at ABG and

452
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Speaker 4: they were just great. So we had that when he

453
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Speaker 4: appeared across the street at the International Hotel. We also

454
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Speaker 4: have the Beatles first poster and program signed by them.

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Speaker 4: It was three dollars to go back on that night

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Give me the Holy Grail. What's the one item that

458
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Speaker 2: you're still in pursuit of.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. It's a great question. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that there is something that that that is.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that we would you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously we will continue and grow U and and always

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Speaker 4: curate the museum. You know, there are a lot of

464
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Speaker 4: great athletes. I'm sure you know something from Jesse Owens.

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Speaker 4: We have a changed the world right behind this wall

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Speaker 4: exhibit where we have Jackie Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Bill Russell

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Speaker 4: his MVP Award that his wife Jeanine has granted us

468
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Speaker 4: a loan down display, Billy Jean King her dress for

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Speaker 4: her iconic dress from the Philadelphia Freedom, Jim Brown's helmet

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Speaker 4: when he broke the record as a Cleveland Brown, and

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Speaker 4: Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So you know, we're always looking for

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Speaker 4: people who change the world. So perhaps Jesse owens for

473
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Speaker 4: his great feat. So what he did at the Berlin Olympics.

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Speaker 4: And you know, right in front of me is Simone

475
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Speaker 4: Bias and shoey Otani and Tom shoes from when he

476
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Speaker 4: came back from twenty eight to three. So we've got

477
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Speaker 4: so many great items here. But there's always room to improve.

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Speaker 4: Commitment to excellence never ends, Dan.

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Speaker 2: But if Tom wants one of his Super Bowl rings,

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Speaker 2: how does he get it?

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Speaker 4: He calls us up and he says, I want to

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Speaker 4: wear this tonight. And guess what. Everybody who's loaned this,

483
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Speaker 4: every single person who's loaned this, the day they want

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Speaker 4: it back is the day we give it back. And

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Speaker 4: so Tom will come and take his ring, and you

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Speaker 4: know we'll say temporarily unavailable, come back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go. The Pete Rose situation, I

488
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Speaker 2: did think about you when the commissioner said that he

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Speaker 2: would consider putting him up, you know, for Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame or putting him on the ballot. And at the

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Speaker 2: time I thought the timing was weird. I know that

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Speaker 2: that you know, we're looking at a lifetime ban, but

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Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was a permanent ban. It wasn't his lifetime,

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Speaker 2: and then they changed it to a lifetime ban, and

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Speaker 2: then there was some wiggle room. President Trump's role in

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Speaker 2: this with the commissioner, and I did think of you,

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Speaker 2: of what you think? How does baseball honor Pete Rose.

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Speaker 4: Dan. I've always said, we do not live in the

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Speaker 4: Soviet Union. Pete rose accomplishments are his accomplishments, and we

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Speaker 4: should not be trying to erase them. What he did

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Speaker 4: on the field was the greatest hitter of all time

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Speaker 4: by the numbers, and that should be acknowledged, and he

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Speaker 4: should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame by the

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Speaker 4: same token. While it was coupled, there's consequence for action.

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Speaker 4: And he walked in front of that sign. That sign

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Speaker 4: didn't say no steroids, it didn't say no domestic abuse,

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Speaker 4: it said no gambling. And he saw that sign thirty

508
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Speaker 4: thousand times. But it was a lifetime ban. His lifetime

509
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Speaker 4: is over the Hall of Fame committee now when it

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Speaker 4: reconvenes for that committee should consider him. And I believe

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Speaker 4: because of what he achieved, I've always said he should

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Speaker 4: be in the Hall of Fame, but it should be

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Speaker 4: noted on his flag that he was banned for baseball

514
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Speaker 4: due to gambling. That was a part of his life

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Speaker 4: and that should be a part of the plaque. But yes,

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Speaker 4: his records are his records. And if you have his

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Speaker 4: bat in there for breaking the record, and you have

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Speaker 4: his uniform or one of the balls or whatever it

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Speaker 4: is that Cooperstown displays, you know he's in the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame. And when his plaque and when his time

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Speaker 4: is done, you know, the shame of it is is

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Speaker 4: that Pete didn't get to see it while he was alive,

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Speaker 4: that the reform that that Commissioner Giamani asked him to

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Speaker 4: reconfigure his life. You know that he that that didn't happen,

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Speaker 4: and that's and that's that, and that's sad for him

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Speaker 4: he's gone now, and sad for his family. And it's

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Speaker 4: just it's just all kind of too bad because what

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Speaker 4: he did on the field and what he achieved on

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Speaker 4: the field, you know, was was so super so great.

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Speaker 2: How do you differentiate Pete from Barry Bonds, who uh

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Speaker 2: did it on the field but under you know, certainly

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Speaker 2: a cloud of suspicion that what Pete did on the

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Speaker 2: field wasn't under suspicion, but certainly Bonds what he did.

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Speaker 2: Can you play him in the Hall of Fame. Well,

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Speaker 2: they haven't voted him man, so he is at least

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Speaker 2: on the balot, but having a plaque that says this

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Speaker 2: is what he was accused of or involved in. Or

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Speaker 2: how do you know? How do you edit this?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 4: I can I ask you a question? Yeah, I sometimes

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Speaker 4: do that in my career. That's the capacity question. How

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Speaker 4: is Bud Felick, who profiteered in the Baseball Hall of Fame,

543
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Speaker 4: who stood over this, watched over, presided over all of this.

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Speaker 4: You all of the guys who he presided over are

545
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Speaker 4: banished or not allowed. Come on, this is ridiculous. He

546
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Speaker 4: got called to the carpet by Congress. That's why he

547
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Speaker 4: altered his position because he didn't want to lose anti trust.

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Speaker 4: And so now we put Bud Celik, who I love,

549
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Speaker 4: I'm personally very fond of, but I love sus Celick.

550
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Speaker 4: She's one of my favorite people. But come on, this,

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Speaker 4: this this stuff's ridiculous. You can be in the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame. You let all of this go on, All

553
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Speaker 4: of the club's profiteered. The attendance was up. This is

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Speaker 4: what I don't want to say. It was the standard

555
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Speaker 4: because I don't want to besmirch the people who didn't.

556
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Speaker 4: But I'm saying this was prevalent, and there are a

557
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Speaker 4: lot of guys who are under this cloud, and so

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Speaker 4: I would hope that at some point Baseball would find

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Speaker 4: a way to have the grace to say this was

560
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Speaker 4: a part of our life. Let's denote it, let's show it,

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Speaker 4: let's explain it, and let's move on. Barry Bonds was

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Speaker 4: great long before anything that he was accused of. Okay,

563
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Speaker 4: so I believe he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: That's my personal opinion. I don't like anybody who cheats.

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Speaker 4: I don't like anybody who stirts the rules. I don't

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Speaker 4: like when it's under a cloud of suspicion or that

567
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Speaker 4: somebody has an advantage. But I think when it's prevalent

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Speaker 4: and the commissioner is allowed to be in the Hall

569
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Speaker 4: of Fame than the people who were doing it to

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Speaker 4: have that same consideration, Yeah, that's what I would think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be holier than now, but

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Speaker 2: I did think when Bud Seely was going to go

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame that you say no, because

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Speaker 2: you have to acknowledge what happened under your leadership.

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Speaker 4: Exactly or exactly.

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Speaker 2: Or put it on his plaque, And you're right, Bud Seiling.

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Speaker 2: I love Bud. His wife is very nice and a

578
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Speaker 2: frequent listener of the show. But I thought maybe you'd say, hey,

579
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Speaker 2: I was the guy in charge of this. Now. He

580
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: wasn't as strong as Donald fear in the Players Association.

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Speaker 2: He told me that numerous times. He said, there's only

582
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Speaker 2: so much I can do, and that's why I started

583
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Speaker 2: really going after testing in the minor leagues. But still

584
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Speaker 2: it's under your watch that this happened, one of the

585
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Speaker 2: darkest eras in Major League Baseball history.

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Speaker 4: Can I say something before we go? Sure, you're a

587
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: great voice, which you did for John Facinda, Brett Musberger. Dan,

588
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Speaker 4: you you are a Hall of Famer. You belong in

589
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Speaker 4: the Hall of Excellence. You've been long over the test

590
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Speaker 4: of time. You've have to sustained. So I appreciate what

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Speaker 4: you do for our fellow brethren. I appreciate what you

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Speaker 4: do for the public. Your interviews are great, You're great,

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Speaker 4: You're personally a friend of mine. I'm biased, but you're

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Speaker 4: just spectacular and you belong in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: In all these halls of fame, and I thank you

596
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Speaker 4: for what you do for all of us. And you

597
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Speaker 4: know it's a lifetime of achievement and you've just been

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Speaker 4: You've been spectacular. And I want to say that because

599
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: you go to bat for everybody, and all of us

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Speaker 4: should be batting for you.

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Speaker 2: Would you like a SportsCenter suit that I wore to

602
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Speaker 2: put in the Hall of Excellence, Jim, I mean.

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Speaker 4: We will hang back proudly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know.

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Speaker 4: We have a we have a football here. We do

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Speaker 4: have a football here that was given to me by

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Speaker 4: Mark Davis, Bobby Romansky, and Dick Romansky. The Ramanskis are

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Speaker 4: the only people who've ever been in the equipment room

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Speaker 4: for the Raiders. It's signed by every Super Bowl announcer

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Speaker 4: all the way through forty five. That the case here,

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Speaker 4: every Super Bowl announcer going back to Ray Scott and

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Speaker 4: Kirk Gowdy who did Super Bowl number one, Howard Cosel's

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Speaker 4: on their Madden s Thumball, all the great names.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Dan, send your suit please, I'll see you make

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Speaker 2: the Yeah. I have my ESPN patch around here somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Berman gave it to me, my magnetic ESPN patch. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: I'll see you there maybe in the fall out in Vegas, Jym,

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Speaker 2: and thank you again. You did a wonderful job.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 2: He is the the new nightly news anchor. He took

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Speaker 2: over for Lester Holt. Tom Yamas is here and uh,

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Speaker 2: June second, you took over as the big cheese there

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Speaker 2: as the nightly news and do you have makeup on

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 3: Tom?

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Speaker 5: I got a little bit of powder. I didn't know

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Speaker 5: what I was getting into here, man I got I

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Speaker 5: was like, guys, it's a sports show, and so I

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Speaker 5: just kind of just do what they tell me. I'm

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Speaker 5: a little bit on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just you know, I felt like, you, you know,

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Speaker 2: went a little overboard here.

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Speaker 5: I even told them, was I just give you powder.

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Speaker 5: That's hys therapy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, your Lifestyleah, how does it change now that you're

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Speaker 2: on call? It feels like twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 5: I have some NBC News engineers coming to my house

640
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Speaker 5: next week to take over one of my rooms in

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Speaker 5: my house to make it a mobile studio that can

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Speaker 5: go live under any circumstance, and when I mean under

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Speaker 5: any circumstance. If there is no Wi Fi, if there

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Speaker 5: is no power, we're getting a star Link set up

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Speaker 5: and just to make sure we can go live. And

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Speaker 5: right now we are on sort of a standby to

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Speaker 5: see what the US does with Iran, and so they're

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Speaker 5: sort of working over time to make sure we can

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Speaker 5: get the studio up and going. You know, like I

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Speaker 5: have a passport on me at all times I can

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Speaker 5: I got to run to the airport and just knowing

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Speaker 5: at any point the phone's going to ring and it's

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Speaker 5: like jump on a plane or we need you to

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Speaker 5: come in. And you know, but you know that when

655
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Speaker 5: you sign up, you know that's going to happen.

656
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Speaker 2: But you have three kids, Yeah, your wife and kids,

657
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: they can kind of understand that. Yeah, you know what

658
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: if you're at a soccer game, or you're at a

659
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: baptism or at a graduation.

660
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough. So I'll give you an example. I mean,

661
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: my kids have always known me to do this job,

662
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: and so they know that sort of comes with the

663
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: territory and that's part of dad's job. And it's tough

664
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: on them sometimes, right because they wake up and I'm

665
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: not there. I'm on a plane to Ukraine or Israel

666
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 5: or somewhere else. And that's tough, and it's you know,

667
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: conversations we have as a family when we get home.

668
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 5: But I'll give you an example. Last Friday, my little

669
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: guy was having his championship Little League game seven years

670
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: old against a team where we have a huge rivalry

671
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: with the other coach. So this was the biggest game

672
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: of the season, and I had to be on the

673
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: desk because the game was at five thirty. So I'm

674
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 5: already taping segments, I'm getting ready for nightly news, and

675
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 5: my wife's live streaming the game, and so I'm at

676
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 5: the corner of my eye, I'm watching the live stream

677
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 5: of this Little League seven you game while I'm reading

678
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: something like the serious news. But it was during commercial

679
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: breaks and I was able to watch them hits. So

680
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 5: it's good stuff like that. But when I'm home, I'm

681
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: dad and I'm a good husband. It's like, I'm just

682
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: focused on the family. And I think when you're at home,

683
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: that's the way it's got to be. And when you're

684
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: at work, you're at work.

685
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: And what point does it click and you go that's

686
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 2: what I want to do.

687
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting. So I was in the ninth grade.

688
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: I was taking a writing class on my high school

689
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: and an alumnus came in. His name was Louisa Gire.

690
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: He was very you know, he's a known local reporter

691
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: and anchor. He still he's a great broadcaster. And he said,

692
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 5: if you like writing, check out TV news. And I

693
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 5: went home and I was talking to my parents and

694
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: we always watched a lot of news. My parents are

695
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: Cuban refugees. They came here in the late fifties and

696
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 5: the early sixties, and we were constantly watching news in

697
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 5: English and Spanish. So it was always a part of

698
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 5: our life and talking politics and talking about elections, even

699
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: as a child. But when I told him that, you know, parents,

700
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 5: it's interesting like immigrant parents. Usually it's like doctor, lawyer, businessman.

701
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: There's like only three careers in this world. And when

702
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 5: I told him about this, they said, you know what,

703
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: try it out. And at fifteen I got my first internship,

704
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 5: and so I started working in newsrooms. At fifteen, I

705
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: saw my first dead body. That summer, I would interview

706
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 5: local officials. This is Telemundo, Telemundo, Yeah, And so it

707
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 5: was all in Spanish. Me I couldn't even drive. My

708
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: mom would drop me off and then you know, like

709
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: within an hour, I was in the news van with

710
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: a photographer carrying the tripod. And then if there was

711
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: no reporter, I would ask the questions and it was

712
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: in Spanish, and it was but it was an incredible

713
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: summer and it was so much fun and so exciting.

714
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 5: I did every job. I rolled prompter sort of coffee,

715
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: answer phones, go out on shoots, help the photographers. And

716
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 5: I did that pretty much every summer in my life.

717
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 5: And so I was constantly working in newsrooms.

718
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell whether it's parents who call in or

719
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: their students who call in of how to get in

720
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: the business. And I said, there's no direct route, right,

721
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: But I always say, if you don't do something, somebody

722
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: else will always think that there's going to be somebody.

723
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: And our job is to make this job look great easy.

724
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: Like I said to Bob Costas, you made it look

725
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: too easy, Bob. So there's more competition because everybody thinks

726
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: they can do sports. Yeah, this isn't difficult. You turn

727
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: on a microphone, comb your hair, you're good to go.

728
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: Maybe a little powder if you need it. But I don't,

729
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: and I think that, no, no, you look great. You don't.

730
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: I've done at all. I don't need it.

731
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 5: I actually lost what you were saying, like I was

732
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: looking in your eyes.

733
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: But no, you're right.

734
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: And a lot of people think it's very glamorous, and

735
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: at times it can be. But it's a lot of

736
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 5: work and you got to really love it, even covering

737
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 5: something like the Olympics, which is to me, I mean,

738
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 5: one of the best things that we get to cover

739
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: what people don't see is that to interview Katie Ledecci

740
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: when she wins that gold medal out of the race

741
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: and she's huffing and puffing, you have to stay planted

742
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: for two hours with your photographer standing up waiting in

743
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 5: place for that race to end, for her to come up,

744
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 5: and then you can get those ten seconds with her.

745
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 5: But it's incredible to get those ten seconds, you know.

746
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: I was in Cuba recently, went there kind of a

747
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: cultural exchange, and I'm glad I went. Yeah, but it

748
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: was so sad. It is because you look at what

749
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: it was and what it may never be. Yeah, and

750
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: just the people who were there who never get out

751
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: and know they will never get out. They could not

752
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: have been more hard working, loyal, caring. But you just

753
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: see these buildings and they they what that was like

754
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: in the fifties, when you know, Hollywood was going over there.

755
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: There were casinos over there, hemingways over you know, this

756
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: was this was a place. The weather is wonderful. But uh,

757
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm glad I went. I don't know, have you been back.

758
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: I've never been back. I've never I was born here.

759
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: My visa has been rejected twice. I tried to go

760
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: as a journalist, but I was rejected twice.

761
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: They usually, and we're always having ongoing conversations with the

762
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 5: Cubans to try to go over there, but the two

763
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 5: times I tried to go, I was rejected. Usually they

764
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 5: don't like Cuban American journalists, especially Cuban American journalists who

765
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 5: grew up in Miami. It's very sensitive and that those

766
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 5: those are their rules. My parents have never never gone back.

767
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: We still have family there. My entire life. We have

768
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 5: supported family on the island. Is incredibly sad. People have

769
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 5: no idea of how sad it is in Cuba and

770
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 5: what it once was until you study it. But it's

771
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 5: something that you know to understand. Dan, like my entire life.

772
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 5: My parents toasted every New Year's next year in Havana,

773
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 5: my entire life, and they'll never go back. They probably

774
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: will never go back. They're in their seventies now and

775
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: they probably will never go back. And it's incredibly sad,

776
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: and I pray for the people there, and I covered

777
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 5: as much as I can.

778
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Tom Yamas is the anchor, the managing editor the nightly news.

779
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: Most dangerous setting you've been in.

780
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: Uh, There's been a few, right, because there's there's dangerous

781
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 5: settings when you are in extreme weather. Hurricane Katrina physically

782
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: knocked me down, whereas you're standing up and the wind

783
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: was so strong where you were in Mississippi physically knocked

784
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 5: me down. I've been in Israel, in Ukraine in situations

785
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: where you know, the raids go off and you're looking

786
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: out of your window and you're seeing missiles fly into

787
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: Tel Aviv and you're seeing the Iron Dome intercepted and

788
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 5: it's the craziest thing that you're witnessing because you're safe,

789
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: but you're not really safe because if if the Iron

790
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 5: Dome doesn't work, that missile lands. And I'd say those

791
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: types of situations, I mean in local news, there was

792
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 5: there was a lot of extreme weather, but also crime

793
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: scenes that sometimes you get to this scene faster than

794
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 5: the cops do sometimes, and that's not not a great

795
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 5: place to be. I'll give you a good a good story.

796
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 5: So when I was a young reporter in Miami, he

797
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: was my first local news gig. Katrina was the big hurricane,

798
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: and I had sort of you know, i'd worked, I'd

799
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: done a couple of hurricanes, I'd sort of proven myself,

800
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: but I was still very green. And we were getting

801
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 5: deployed to Mississippi and we were gonna work for NBC

802
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: News and the local station to be TVJ, And so

803
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: I said, oh, my uncle has got a house in

804
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 5: past Christian and I'm sure we could get great shots.

805
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: You know, we could. We could cover the hurricane as

806
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 5: it rolls in. And my photographer, who was really experienced

807
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 5: guy covered a lot of hurricanes, he goes, look, man,

808
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: this thing's a Cat four, cat five. He goes, your

809
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 5: uncle's house in the water. That's not a safe No,

810
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: trust me, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.

811
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 5: To this day, they have not found that house to

812
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: this day. And thank god I listened to him. We

813
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: were way inland covering the storm. We were still able

814
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 5: to get everything. But yeah, there's things like that all

815
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 5: the time. And then there's there's people on our team

816
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: like Richard Engel and Keir Simmons and Raf Sanchez and

817
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 5: Matt Bradley that are in war zones constantly, and they're

818
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 5: one of the reasons why I think NBC News still

819
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: separates itself. There's a lot of conversations about legacy media

820
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 5: versus new media and whatever you want to call it.

821
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 5: What I know is that our people, our teams are

822
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 5: in there on the front lines day and day out,

823
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: and they've been doing it for decades.

824
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Competition with other news anchors, oh yeah, yeah.

825
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, you know, in everything weightlifting and I'm joking,

826
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: could you take David Mira, I mean arm wrestling. He's

827
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: got some big guns, but he's a he's a good

828
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: friend and I worked there. I learned a lot from

829
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: him and at ABC.

830
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: But he really likes his hair.

831
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: He's got good hair.

832
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: He's got good hair. He does he's got good hair.

833
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 5: But he's a good guide too. And yeah, it's it's

834
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 5: incredibly competitive, and I don't think you get here unless

835
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 5: you want to compete. Journalism to me, it's obviously about

836
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 5: your viewers, and it's about your your readers and your listeners,

837
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 5: and you got to make sure you get the story right.

838
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 5: But but you don't want to do anything mediocre. You

839
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 5: want to be the best at what you do. And

840
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's still highly competitive, and it's not it's

841
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 5: it doesn't it doesn't drive us, but it's important to

842
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: me because I think you want to put on the

843
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: best show every night.

844
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: Sports fans can be pretty rough.

845
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: Sports. Oh my god. If you if you read a

846
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: sports story and there's a stat that's wrong, it could

847
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 5: be like four hundred and forty wins and you say

848
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 5: four forty one. I mean, you're gonna get emails, your

849
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 5: Twitter is gonna light up. But it's interesting because sports.

850
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 5: We're covering sports more and more in news, and I

851
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 5: think it's a good thing. You know, I actually think

852
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: it's a good thing because there's some incredible drama happening

853
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 5: in sports and people are tuning into live events, live

854
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: sports events like they never have before. And so to me,

855
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 5: that that is an news event.

856
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: In some cases, sometimes we'll look at the nightly news

857
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: and you'll see the crossover story. Yeah, like Caitlin Clark huge.

858
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 5: We've been all over it, and I'll tell you why,

859
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: because every time I mentioned Caitlyn Clark to someone, they

860
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 5: have an opinion. And a lot of women have opinions

861
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 5: about Caitlin Clark. And it's a story that's sort of

862
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: driving a lot of emotion and interest. And one of

863
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: the best things about the last incident that happened that

864
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 5: I noticed right off the bat was you look at

865
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: the sort of scuffle and the pushing down and the refs,

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Speaker 5: but you look at that arena and it was packed

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Speaker 5: and everyone was on their feet, and it's like the

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Speaker 5: WNBA is generating an excitement like it never has before.

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Speaker 5: It's not just Caitlin Clark, it's all the other great players,

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Speaker 5: Angel Rees and everybody else. I mean, it has a

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Speaker 5: moment now now. Whether the refs have to catch up,

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Speaker 5: we'll find out. But I love that we're like sort

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Speaker 5: of at the beginning of sort of this transition I

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Speaker 5: think for the league.

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Speaker 2: But how do you decide when that sports story crosses over?

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Speaker 5: I think when there's a visceral moment. I think when

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Speaker 5: there's a story that's gonna hit you here or here

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Speaker 5: that's gonna sort of resonate with our viewers. We've done

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Speaker 5: a few baseball stories. I'll give you a good example.

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Speaker 5: The Yankees out called up a catcher that had been

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Speaker 5: a Miami Uber driver, human American guy, and uh, that

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Speaker 5: story was incredible because he had a guy who just

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Speaker 5: last year was driving an Uber and now he's backing

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Speaker 5: up Austin Wells on the New York Yankees and he's

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Speaker 5: playing great. And I think stories like that touch people,

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Speaker 5: and so those are the kind of stories we want

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Speaker 5: to be in. And then the Olympics, there's just there's

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Speaker 5: so much drama on the Olympics because you have people

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Speaker 5: who compete their entire lives and they're either gonna meddle

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Speaker 5: or they're gonna lose and and that, and that's a

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Speaker 5: tough moment. And I saw it, uh just recently in Paris,

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Speaker 5: we were covering Greco Roman Wrestling and there was a

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Speaker 5: wrestler from maybe he was Kazakhstan and he had just

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Speaker 5: lost and he's just a big, tough guy and he

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Speaker 5: walks out to the press line he does like an interview,

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Speaker 5: and he just collapses and starts crying like a child.

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Speaker 5: And when I tell you, this guy was tough. I

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Speaker 5: mean cauliflower, E're just you know, muscles. It was just

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Speaker 5: like wow, like you know, like you just can't believe it.

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Speaker 5: But that's the drama that happens with the Olympics, especially

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Speaker 5: for different countries where that is their ultimate sport.

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Speaker 2: Is it required mandatory that you have to have a

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Speaker 2: feel good story at the end of the news.

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Speaker 5: You know, we want to leave people with something good

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Speaker 5: because we're going to hit them with a lot because

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Speaker 5: the world is tough. And then I could go granular

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Speaker 5: on it. The research has shown that the viewers like it.

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Speaker 5: They love there's good News tonight, that segment we do

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Speaker 5: at the end. So if our viewers like it, we

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Speaker 5: like it because at the end of the day, and

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Speaker 5: I say this, I drill this into our staff, we

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Speaker 5: work for the viewer. If you go in there and

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Speaker 5: you think it's about us, or you think it's about

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Speaker 5: NBC News, you're going to lose people. At the end

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Speaker 5: of the day. You got to remember you're working for them,

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Speaker 5: and if you do that, usually get the journalism right.

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Speaker 2: But they're required to say tom and then they go

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Speaker 2: into their report when you throw it out to the

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Speaker 2: White House and then they throw it back and they go, Tom, No,

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Speaker 2: it's you know, there's there's just like it's required, there's

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Speaker 2: no requirement, but like it.

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Speaker 5: But what your what you what you want to do

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Speaker 5: is you want to make a conversational. I mean you

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Speaker 5: know this, I mean you want to make a conversational.

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Speaker 5: You don't want it. You don't want it. You don't

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Speaker 5: want people to think that they're watching something else to

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Speaker 5: take them out of it, that it feels fake or

928
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Speaker 5: it feels not real or authentic. And I think it's

929
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Speaker 5: what we try to create is just hey, look, I

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Speaker 5: know I know Peter Alexander, I know Gabe Gutias at

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Speaker 5: the White House and we're having a conversation.

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Speaker 2: But you can call for a camera crew right now

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to. Yeah, no, I have some questions

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Speaker 2: about you. And so we got it. We got a

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Speaker 2: couple of people outside, including Keith Morrison. Oh and so

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Speaker 2: oh yeah it's a new dateline. Yeah. We've had Keith

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Speaker 2: Morrison on a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: He's amazing, he's one of the he's the goat, but

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Speaker 5: he he didn't understand why he's so popular, Keith.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loves it, but he goes, I don't know why

941
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Speaker 2: you're having me on And I go, you don't. He goes, no,

942
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Speaker 2: My daughter said, you're talking about me. And I don't know,

943
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Speaker 2: but Bill Hater doing his impersonation.

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Speaker 5: But even and it's funny because this whole, like a

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Speaker 5: lot of the audience now knows Keith from Dateline, Keith

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Speaker 5: before Dayline, built an incredible career as a broadcaster and

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Speaker 5: a reporter. I covered a hurricane with him early in

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Speaker 5: my career when I was local and he was network

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Speaker 5: and I'll never forget he got into the satellite truck

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Speaker 5: and he whipped out a pencil and he just starts

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Speaker 5: writing like long hand his script, I mean, old school,

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Speaker 5: and I was just like in awe of this guy,

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Speaker 5: the way he was working. It was just amazing.

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Speaker 2: At pesky DNA. Yeah, DNA, congrats, thank you, good luck,

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Speaker 2: Thank you Dan, and uh we'll be watching.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And you've opened my eyes here with this studio

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Speaker 5: with your team here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is pretty good man.

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Speaker 5: I thought I had it good. This is really good.

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Speaker 2: I could I could see maybe you hosting this show.

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Speaker 2: One we could do.

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Speaker 5: Oh all right, Dan, you let me know how about

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Speaker 5: swap we want to do news? I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: always I always love when they do that though, when

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Speaker 5: they when they would do that, you know, when they

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Speaker 5: would swap sportscasters and but sometimes they bring something. It's

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Speaker 5: it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes. I would never want to do news ever. No no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no. I can interview anybody, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: want to do the heart I wouldn't want to do

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Speaker 2: that on a nightly basis because you know, those first

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Speaker 2: five stories, we may not have good news in there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, A lot of times you don't. It's

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Speaker 5: it's a tough part, guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the thunder better win Sunday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: talking about Iran, Iran. It's a little different time. I'm

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Speaker 2: doing okay, Yeah, you're doing okay. He is the big

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Speaker 2: cheese now NBC Nightly News, taking over for Lester Holt.

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Speaker 2: What a great man, great man, Great are the best?

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Speaker 2: Great Man. Tom Yamas is the anchor and managing editor

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Speaker 2: of the Nightly News