1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, thank you for coming. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: We do the show every day here from one until 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: four o'clock, and then after four o'clock it's John Cobelt's 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: show on demand, the podcast on the iHeartRadio app, and 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: you could hear whatever you missed. Tyler Robinson is the 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: suspected killer of Charlie Kirk, arrested last night. It was 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: officially announced this morning. Donald Trump broke the news again. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: He was on a Fox show early this morning. Trump 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: had broken the news when Kirk had died on Tuesday. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: So Trump is his own news network. We are going 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: to give you all the details through Alex Stone from 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: ABC News, who's been covering this. Alex, how are you 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: doing well? Yeah? This really came after the FBI went 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: wide with the photos and videos last night. That the 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: photos came out earlier in the day, and then last 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: night they held a news conference where they put out 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: the video of the shooter running across the rooftop of 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the building and then jumping down off of the building. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: And according to the FBI and the Utah Department of 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Public Safety, he was that video along with the photos 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: that they had put out earlier, where then Robinson's dad 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: saw them in Washington, Utah, near Saint George and recognized 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: that was his son and that his son had, according 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: to police, committed this crime. And you know, earlier in 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the day the FBI had said, you know what, we've 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: got photo and video. We don't want to put them 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: out until we try some of our own techniques on them, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: and then if we need to, if we're desperate for it, 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: we'll put it out. Well, when they put it out, 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: that means within about an hour and a half, two hours, 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: they they knew who the shooter was because his father 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: saw it on the news or saw it on social 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: media and then called into to let them know. Now 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: what he did was he actually called their youth pastor 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: who is a member of the US Marshall's Fugitive Task Force, 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: and that pastor said we'll keep him there and then 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: he was arrested after that. But today that the governor 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: of Utah saying. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: I want to think the family members of Tyler Robinson 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: who did the right thing in this case and were 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: able to bring him into law enforcement as well. 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: And again so I was going to the pastor, and 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: then the pastor being a part of the US Marshals 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: task force, and then they got the arrest together. But 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: they've talked to Robinson's roommate who showed the messages on 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: the platform discord that Robinson had apparently told his roommate 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: that he needed a rifle retrieved from a drop point 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: in a bush in the woods, that's where police had 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: already found it. And the messages talked about engraving the 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: bullets with messages on them and that the scope and 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the unique and the rifle were unique. One of the bullets, 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: according to police, Remember we told you yesterday that they 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: had different writings on them. One of them was hey, fascist, 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: catch was what it said on it. Another un said 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: if you this, you are gay. And the FBI director 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: today Cash Ptel, saying. 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: In less than thirty six hours, thirty three to be precise, 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: thanks to the full weight of the federal government and 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: leading out with the partners here in the state of 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: Utah and Governor Cox, the suspect was apprehended in historic 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: time period. 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Now, John the Governor's saying, they can see from surveillance 64 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: video that the Robinson arrived on campus much earlier than 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: they thought. He got there at six twenty nine in 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: the morning and wore a plain maroon shirt and then 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: changed into dark clothing, and then after the shooting went 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: back into his original clothing with the American flag on it, 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: And so he changed in the middle of it to 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: apparently blend in or not be seen getting into all 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: dark clothing and then jumped off the side of that 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: building and ran into the woods. And today his neighbors 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: in the Saint George area, they're saying that totally out 74 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: of they didn't think it would be him at all, 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: that they're shocked. This woman Christian is a neighbor and 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: she lives three doors down from the Robinson. She was 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: a custodian at his elementary school and says he's extremely smart, 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: always did really well in school. I'm just heartsick for it. 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: That's not who he was, that's not who he was 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: raised to be. I think social media and friends that 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: have gotten it wrong. Yeah, she thinks it's mental health, 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: and it goes back to social media. She says, as 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: a kid with off the charts act scores, that was 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: always quiet and polite and seemed like he had his 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: life together, but friends and family have said that he 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: had become more political in recent years, and at a 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: dinner a few days ago right before this, had mentioned 88 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: that Charlie Kirk was going to be at Utah Valley 89 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: University and he didn't like him and didn't like his viewpoints. 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: But he's booked at the Utah County Jail now being 91 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: held for murder, but the official charges will be filed 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the DASS probably on Tuesday, is what they're looking at 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: right now. And there might be federal charges too. Yeah, 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: we understand they're working on that. The federal charges are 95 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: probably coming. They could be a few days away from 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: as well, but it'll probably be both federal and state charges. 97 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Do they think there's an accomplice because he had put 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: online in that message to his roommate, you know that 99 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: he's got to pick up this this rifle. Was he 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: trying to ask the roommate to pick it up or 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: to get a third party? At this point, there's no 102 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: indication that we know of that anybody else is involved 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: in this. That it appears that he was asking somebody, 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: asking his roommate to come and get this rifle, and 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: the roommate didn't do it so you know, maybe that 106 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: they were buddies and yeah, the request came in and 107 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: you're like, what are you talking about? And you don't 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: do it. Now, that's not to say they're not gonna 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: find something with the roommate or somebody else. Think of 110 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: the San Bernardino terror attack, and they went after everybody 111 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: who supplied the weapons in that and the network that 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: had been support in some way for helping out. So 113 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be surprising if they figured out if anybody 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: was and they will if anybody was helping them where 115 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: the weapon came from. But they're not that far along yet. 116 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like for dad to be 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: watching television and see your son running away from and 118 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: to know that's him immediately pops up on the screen 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: and you say, that's Leddy Tyler. He just assassinated somebody. Yeah, 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: especially with this kid's background, I'm sure there's stories were 121 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: not aware of yet about his life, but wow, Yeah, 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: I mean we know from photos that he knew his 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: way around weapons, which is pretty apparent based on the 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: shot that he took in with one bullet, and that, yeah, 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: he liked to go hunting and had grown up in 126 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: the Saint George area, and you know, again was a 127 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: kind of a quiet kid and was not going to 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Utah Valley University, but I was going to a trade 129 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: school and you know, just kind of living his life. 130 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: Alex Stone, thank you for coming yet. Thanks John all right, 131 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Alex Stone. ABC News at the at the scene covering 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk assassination and to last night the apprehension 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: of Tyler Robinson, the suspected killer, and this morning the 134 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: news conference. You know what, I want to play some clips. 135 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard or saw the news 136 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: conference this morning, but one guy has jumped out at 137 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: me and I didn't know who he was, the Utah Governor, 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: Spencer Cox. That's an impressive guy, and I'm going to 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: play you some clips of him. I my reaction because 140 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: at first I heard him this morning. I did see 141 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: him yesterday one of the news conferences, but I heard 142 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: him that realized was the governor. And It's like, why 143 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: can't we have a governor like this? Why do we 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: have this wacky weirdo. This is like a grown man, 145 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: a mature man, a real governor, very very concise, very accurate, 146 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: no nonsense and progressive. Ideo say just hey, y ay, 147 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: and I want to play you the clips. You could 148 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: make your own, have your own impression of him. But 149 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: he's somebody texted me right away as he was speaking. 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: He goes, oh, I want this guy for president when 151 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: we come back. One of the things that Spencer Cox 152 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: says in his clips is he talks about social media 153 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: as a cancer, and last night I had said something 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: similar to my wife. I said, social media is brain cancer. 155 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: It destroys people's brains. And I guess maybe that's why 156 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: I immediately connected with this with this governor, because we 157 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: need every adult left I don't know, maybe there's about 158 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: six of them to realize that that that social media 159 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: is brain cancer. So no more posting. We can't post. 160 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: You don't want you can post? You can you can 161 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: post all your outfits and your travels and things. Okay, 162 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: that's what it started out to be, right, Yes, Facebook game, 163 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's my post photos of the kids 164 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: for the relatives, and pictures of your vacation. Uh. And 165 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: then it's just turned into this this monster and pictures 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: of our dogs, pictures of our dogs. Sure this limited 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: you and I well, I'll get into this because once 168 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I start you know what happens on and go mein uh, 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: and you'll tell me the news is late, and then 170 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: Eric gives me the look right right, we got we 171 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: had three hours. We can cover everything. 172 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 173 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: six forty. 174 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: We got the moistline coming up twice in the three 175 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: o'clock hour three twenty and three fifty. And you could 176 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: always follow us at John Cobelt Radio, on social media 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: at John Coblt Radio. So this morning was the press 178 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: conference where they announced that they arrested Tyler Robinson. He's 179 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: he's twenty two years old, and he was considered, as 180 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: Alex Stone explained in the last segment, it was considered 181 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: a really smart kid who was had gone to trade 182 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: school after high school and didn't cause any trouble, you know, 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: high test scores, and most people didn't see this coming, 184 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: although family says he got very political in recent months. 185 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Now he's a Mormon kid, and I haven't yet heard 186 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: anything about his family life that would lead you to 187 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: believe he was capable of being an assassin. I suspect 188 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: his brain got corrupted by the Internet and social media, 189 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: and I think the Utah Governor spent youer Cox feels 190 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the same way. Listen to what he said this morning 191 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: during the press conference when they announced Robinson's arrest. Cut 192 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: number four. 193 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: Having won so gruesomely displayed on camera in all of 194 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: our hands and in all of our pockets. We are 195 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: not wired as human beings biologically, historically, we have not 196 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: evolved in a way that we are capable of processing 197 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: those types of violent imagery. And by the way, we've 198 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: seen another one with a gruesome stabbing very recently that 199 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: went viral. This is not good for us. It is 200 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: not good to consume. Social media is a cancer on 201 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: our society right now, and I would encourage again, I 202 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: would encourage people to log off, turnoff, touch grass, hug 203 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: a family member, go out and do good in your community. 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: It's a cancer because it gives you images that you 205 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: don't want to see. One of my sons said, he 206 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: just opened Instagram. He wasn't looking for this. I don't 207 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: think he even knew it had happened. And he opened 208 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: up his phone and he's looking at an image of 209 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk being blown away, and a few seconds later 210 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: there was another image of it, only closer and you 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: know what he did. He put his phone away and 212 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: he took a walk and left his phone behind. He goes, 213 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to carry this thing around anymore, because 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, you think you're open it up to look 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: at a baseball score or a football game or something, 216 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: and you see somebody's get stabbed to death on a train, 217 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: or you get to see Charlie Kirk blown away. And 218 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: the bigger cancer is all the nonsense that's fed into 219 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: the brains of young people. All this, all this, all 220 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: the radical politics, and people are immersed in this, young 221 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: men especially are immersed in this for hours and hours 222 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: and hours every day. You could raise your kid in 223 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: a good environment, a religious environment. You could do all 224 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: the right things. Teach him good manners, and teach him 225 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: work ethic, teach him be a good friend, a good brother, 226 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: a good a good effort. But if he spends all 227 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: his time in his room, like a lot of kids do, 228 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: six seven hours a day on social media, well you 229 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: know you're not going to be looking at cartoons. Especially 230 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: A male mind goes to dark places, It goes to poorn, 231 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: it goes to violence, it goes to incendiary ideas that 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: get you really excited, and if you don't understand why 233 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: the world works, it gets you into conspiracy theories. You're 234 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: looking for explanations, You're looking for somebody to say, Oh, 235 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: it's it's these people who did it. It's that person, 236 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it's I remember fifteen years ago 237 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: when social media first took hold, Twitter became a big deal, 238 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Facebook had really started to get popular, and I thought 239 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: it was horrific, and I used to talk about it on 240 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the air, and somebody here at the station goes, you 241 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about it that way. It makes you sound old. 242 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: This is the way of the world's going to be 243 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: in here. I didn't listen. I just stuck to my 244 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: instinct here, No, this is going to be bad. I 245 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: had nothing against the technology. You know, I'm not complaining 246 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: here about a car replacing the horse and buggy. I'm 247 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: saying the people who use the technology. There's just too 248 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: many bad people out there, and too many stupid people, 249 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: and too many young people whose minds can be manipulated 250 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: and melded to believe almost anything. And fifteen years later, 251 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: that's what's happened, and now we have a whole generation. 252 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: I know two people who teach in college. One word 253 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: to describe a lot of the students zombies. They stare 254 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: at screens throughout the entire lecture. They don't pay attention 255 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: to the professor, they don't pay attention to each other, 256 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to themselves. They're just scrolling mindlessly, endlessly, 257 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: like zombies. Post after post after post, text after text 258 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: after text. It not everybody. I think most of the 259 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: students who attended Charlie Kirk's event don't fall into that 260 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: category necessarily. But there's a big percentage whose brains are 261 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: non functional, and it may be it may be that 262 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: way for life, because though your brains are still growing 263 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: and forming and changing during your teenage years, and we've 264 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: had iPhone came about twenty thirteen, and anybody who's researched 265 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: this can tell you that all the mental illness pathologies 266 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: started to skyrocket starting in twenty thirteen with teenagers. And 267 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: those people are now some of them are thirty years old, 268 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: and much of that generation has spent six or seven 269 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: hours a day of their entire adolescence. They don't date. 270 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: They even the bad stuff people used to do. They 271 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: don't drink. They're not doing drugs, they're not having sex. 272 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, this would this would be a paradise 273 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: for a puritan. But what they are doing as they're 274 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: feeding their mind with garbage, and that's why it's producing 275 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: more and more of these bizarro killers, these bizarre political creatures. 276 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: That's now it is a cancer. 277 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from KFI. 278 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: A six forty roun every day between one and four 279 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: o'clock after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on 280 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. This morning, it was officially announced to 281 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, the twenty two year old is the man 282 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: that police say killed Charlie Kirk. Not a student at 283 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: that school, although he's twenty two. He went to a 284 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: trade school. And he had been talking about Kirk at dinner. 285 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: He wasn't living with his family anymore. He had a roommate, 286 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: but he was over the house for dinner frequently, I guess, 287 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: and was talking about how Kirk was coming to town, 288 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: going to appear at the university, and how much how 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: much he disliked Kirk because Kirk hated too much. Here 290 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: is the Utah Governor, Spencer Cox, and I want you 291 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: to listen closer to him and imagine if we had 292 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: a guy like this as governor here in California, What 293 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: a different world. This would be quite cut one. 294 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: This is certainly about the tragic death assassination political assassination 295 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than 296 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: an attack on an individual. It is an attack on 297 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment. 298 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: It is an. 299 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: Attack on our ideals. This cuts to the very foundation 300 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: of who we are, of who we have been, and 301 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: who we could be in better times. 302 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: And he had that other clip. I just wanted to 303 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: contrast it because we played this yesterday. Governor dus was 304 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: on a podcast a couple of weeks ago, and you know, 305 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: he's come out this week since Kirk was killed, and 306 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: said all the right things. It was violent, it's disgusting, 307 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: and this shouldn't be going on. But a couple of 308 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago he went on a podcast and he had 309 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: a different message. Okay, that's all right, let's go on 310 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: with Spencer Cox. And and this is an important distinction 311 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: that he makes here. 312 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: I think we need more moral clarity right now. I 313 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: hear all the time that words are violence. Words are 314 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: not violence. Violence is violence. And there is one person 315 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: responsible for what happened here, and that person is now 316 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: in custody, and we'll be charged soon and we'll be 317 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: held accountable. 318 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: That is great. Words are not violence. Violence is violence. 319 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: You know what the progressives tried to up this to 320 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: in the last few years. Silence is violence. If you 321 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: didn't come out and denounce someone or something that the 322 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: ruling crowd deemed appropriate, then you were part of the problem. 323 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: You had to come out and say you will be 324 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: forcing to. You have to say something you're forced to. 325 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: You can't say I don't want to talk about that, 326 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't And that was pervasive. I've 327 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: seen quotes by college students where they were bullied into 328 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: having to express themselves about some controversial issue. And if 329 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: you didn't concede to the bullying group, then you were 330 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: part of the problem. I saw that silence and violence 331 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: idea all over social media five years ago, bullying everybody. 332 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: And of course if you actually gave an opinion that 333 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: was counter to what the mob believed in, then they 334 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: would come and try to destroy you, cancel you, get 335 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: you fired, get your reputation speared, but silence is not violence. 336 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Words are not violence. Silence is violence. The progressives also 337 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: designed a system where if you disagree with them, or 338 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: you even bring up the issue, you're committing hate speech, 339 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: which is what they were claiming with Charlie Kirk. Just 340 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: debating an issue was hate speech. They've been all about 341 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: shutting down your right to speed, shutting down your right 342 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: to think, shutting down your right to keep to yourself. 343 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: If that's what you want to do, Here is cut 344 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: number three. 345 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Spencer Cox, to my young friends out there, you are 346 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: inheriting a country where politics feels like rage. It feels 347 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: like rage is the only option. But through those words, 348 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: we have a reminder that we can choose a different path. 349 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Your generation has an opportunity to build a culture that 350 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: is very different than what we are suffering through right now, 351 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: not by pretending differences don't matter, but by embracing our 352 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: differences and having those hard conversations. 353 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, progressive culture has to be challenged. They need to 354 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: be on defense for a while, permanently. We have to 355 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: get the world back the way it was. This is intolerable. 356 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: People have been screamed at, intimidated, shamed, canceled, shut down, 357 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: for over ten years now, and of course it's cuming, 358 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: and you know what, they were starting to lose steam. 359 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Trump winning a second time really knocked the stuffing out 360 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: of him, and now some of these people are getting 361 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: angry and desperate. I assume Tyler Robinson was one of 362 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: those because he no longer wanted to talk. He was 363 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: just getting fed on the internet every day about how 364 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: horrible everybody is who don't agree with the mob. I 365 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: guess Charlie Kirk was on the top of the list, 366 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: and he happened to be in town. So Tyler Robinson 367 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: was going to do his part for the mob, his 368 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: part for the progressive cult, and he was going to 369 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: take out one of the leaders. And there's there's hundreds 370 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: of Tyler Robinson's out there, maybe more than hundreds. Uh. 371 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: This this, this could be a way of life for 372 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: a while, And wouldn't surprise me if there was a retaliation, 373 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: because there's plenty of people on the other side who 374 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: also have this mindset. And if there was a way 375 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: to shut off the Internet and shut off social media 376 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: and do a reset for a while, but that's impossible. 377 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: We've got to live with this. And I was thinking 378 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: about how how helpless it is, how helpless it is 379 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: because this this social media machine is never going to stop. 380 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: It has a generation of addicts. There's a generation that 381 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: that is absorbing. And again, they're not watching. They're not 382 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: looking at family photos anymore like at the beginning they're 383 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: they're not looking at vacation pictures. They're not looking at 384 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: messages saying, hey, I haven't seen you in a while. 385 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: What's going on? It's not what's that's a long long past. Now, 386 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: it's just a sore. It's a toxic sore. And it 387 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: has its own language and it has its own codes. 388 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the language and the codes next, 389 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: because the engravings on the bullets. Some of this stuff 390 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: is incomprehensible to a normal person, but it meant a 391 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: lot to Tyler Robinson and many others. More coming up. 392 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 393 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: six forty. 394 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: We've been playing clips of a real governor, Utah Governor 395 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Spencer Cox, who was one of the speakers at press 396 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: conference this morning announcing the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin, 397 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson, and one of the things I was struck 398 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: by is what an adult he was, how reasonable he was, 399 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: and how he was saying obvious things that have seemed 400 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: to allude not only most people in politics, but most adults. 401 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: And though he described how social media is a cancer, 402 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how young people are getting 403 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: politics only as as rage. Well, I want to read 404 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: you the two faces. We call this the two faces 405 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: of Gavin Newsom. Let you reads you what Newsom issued 406 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: in a statement after Kirk was murdered, Charlie Kirk's murder 407 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: is sick and reprehensible. Our thoughts are with his families, 408 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: children and loved ones. His senseless murder is a reminder 409 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: of how important it is for all of us across 410 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: the political spectrum to foster genuine discourse on issues that 411 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: deeply affect us without resorting to political violence. Best way 412 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: to honor Charlie's memory continue his work engage with each 413 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: other across ideology through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas 414 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: are tested through words and good faith debate, never through violence. 415 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Honest disagreement makes us stronger. Violence only drives us further 416 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: apart and corrodes the values at the heart of the station. 417 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom after Charlie Kirk was murdered. Now we'll give 418 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: you Cavin Newsom from about three weeks ago on a podcast. 419 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: This is about the redistricting fight. 420 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 5: Nothing conservative about this, by definition, nothing conservative about that. 421 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: This is radical. 422 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 5: Rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying, 423 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 5: vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law. 424 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. 425 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: I know some people's sensibilities. I respect and appreciate that, 426 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 5: but right now, with all due respect, we're walking down 427 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 5: a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. We're 428 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: going to punch these sons in the mouth. 429 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna punch these sons of bleaps in the mouth. 430 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: He says. Best way to honor Charles Charlie's memory never 431 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: through violence. 432 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 5: I'm going to punch these sons in the mouth. 433 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Violence only drives us further apart. I want to punch. 434 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 5: These sons in the mouth. 435 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: Okay, now I've enough time right here, but I at 436 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: least get started on this. Uh. The the the the casings, 437 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: the from from the rifle. There there's four of them 438 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: they found, and each one of them had an engravement 439 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: on it. Each one was engraved. I should say, how. 440 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Do you. 441 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's that that's a whole process. Where do 442 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: you go to get bullets engraved with that kind of 443 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: tidy print? I just don't know that world. And you 444 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: may have heard that. One of them said, uh, hold 445 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: on a second here, because once again I'm in disorder? 446 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: Are you ever in order in there? I am? I 447 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: am usually out of order, and I might be fatally 448 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: out of order here. 449 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: What are you looking for? 450 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: Do you need my help? Uh? Okay, it's the the 451 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Ingread what was engraved on all the bullets, and one 452 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: of them said, hey, fascists, catch, and hey fascist catch 453 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: is pretty clear. Catch this bullet. And alongside of it 454 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: was an up arrow, a right arrow symbol, and another 455 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: three hours arrows pointing downwards. Now, the symbols could be 456 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: a reference to the Iron Front, which is paramilitary group 457 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: set up to oppose the Nazi Party during the Weimar 458 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Republic period in Germany when Hitler ruled. Social media users 459 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: have pointed to a video game called hell Divers two, 460 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: which was a shooter game, and a code to calling 461 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: an airstrike in the game requires players to hit up right, 462 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: followed by hitting down three times. Another bullet was engraved 463 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: with the words of a prominent Italian anti fascist song 464 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: from Mussolini's era called Bella Chow, which is dedicated to 465 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: the Italian resistance who fought against Nazism. The song had 466 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: been seen in a Netflix series recently, and then the 467 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: final unfired casting casing was inscribed with if you read this, 468 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: you are gay. Lmaoh mean's laughing my ass off. Now, 469 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the one I have not mentioned yet is one that 470 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: said ov oh. That was part of it, and ovo 471 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: intends to represent a wild eyed face of surprise. It 472 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: was followed by the by the phrase notices bulge, ov oh, 473 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: notices bulge. Now notice is bulge? Is about the mail appendage. 474 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: Daily Mail printed a graphic I guess a meme where 475 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: this it's owo actually, and it's printed over a chart 476 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: and there's four quadrants and one of them is called 477 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: One of the quadrants is economic, one is left, one 478 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: is right, one is economic, and in one square it 479 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: says trans people bad. I have no idea what this means, 480 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: but that's where this use of OWO is seen online. 481 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: In this particular meme. You remember there was a report 482 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal that there was some kind 483 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: of transgender messaging on it. And I assume this is 484 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: the connection. So this might be his weird online response 485 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: to whatever he perceived kirk views were on trans people. 486 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they speak in a language that's incomprehensible. They 487 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: speak in a language of weird internet slang and memes 488 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: and emojis. And you know, again, he shot, he shot 489 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk right at the moment Kirk had finished a 490 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: thought about transgender violence, violence by transgenders against others, and 491 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: that's when it was like a punctuation mark at the 492 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: end of the statement. And so this OWO apparently is 493 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: used at least here in this meme about trans people 494 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: being bad. I honestly, it's impossible to decode this stuff. 495 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: Like this one I'm talking about is the mental plaison 496 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: that has seeped into the brains of people where they 497 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: have their own language now and their own rituals, their 498 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: own cultures, their own everything incomprehensible to the normal outside world. 499 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: And if you spend seven hours a day on this 500 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: or longer every day of your life while your brain 501 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: is forming, well you can see what comes out of it. 502 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we got other stuff 503 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: to talk about too. 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