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Speaker 4: You guys. We are continuing with our best of the
Speaker 4: best family Reunion podcast episodes here getting to know all
Speaker 4: of our friends in a deeper way.
Speaker 3: So excited about this next guest. I love him. I'm
Speaker 3: always happy when I see him, so smart and sweet.
Speaker 2: One of our favorite humans, one of the most supportive friends,
Speaker 2: and I mean somebody who's just been showing us how
Speaker 2: it's done for literal decades and still looks like a teenager.
Speaker 2: Like still what a legend.
Speaker 3: Folks, Please welcome to the show and twin Tenna yo
Speaker 3: you you yeah, hi, Daddy, it's early. Thanks for waking
Speaker 3: up to hang out with us. I know it's early
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we was up last night with Mom and Pops.
Speaker 5: It was the forty eighth anniversary, so oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: we was up with them. What'd you guys do nothing?
Speaker 5: They got drunken with the sleep.
Speaker 4: You know, after forty eight years, that's you know, you've
Speaker 4: deserved that. You don't have to show up for anybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they went time. They had a good time though,
Speaker 5: So that was cool.
Speaker 4: I love that. Hey listen, so we're doing something different
Speaker 4: on the podcast during this strike, and we would love
Speaker 4: to hear from you, you know, how the change in
Speaker 4: the business has affected your career and how you're supporting
Speaker 4: sag Aftra. You've been doing this longer than I have.
Speaker 4: What have you seen that's different in the industry over
Speaker 4: the last couple decades.
Speaker 6: It's so easy to get in there, and it's not
Speaker 6: I think it's so easy, and I don't think like
Speaker 6: because like when we will first go to auditions, the
Speaker 6: best actor won the job.
Speaker 5: Period.
Speaker 6: It wasn't about how many followers you had, what your
Speaker 6: social media status was, because when you get to that audition,
Speaker 6: you had to be prepared to go in that room
Speaker 6: and read against so and so, and you got to
Speaker 6: deal with conversations in the audition area, and then you know,
Speaker 6: people trying to throw you off your game. You're not
Speaker 6: focused and you go in the room.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that used to be the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 4: remember people psyching you out and waiting, Oh.
Speaker 5: My gosh, I throw you off your game.
Speaker 6: Then you got to go in that room and you
Speaker 6: got to actually fill the energy of the room.
Speaker 5: Look the room. And now you could self tape and
Speaker 5: you could cut eighties six times and send the best
Speaker 5: place they say, oh, that person is ready, and then
Speaker 5: when they get on set, then now you're shooting eighty
Speaker 5: six takes because because you didn't know.
Speaker 6: So it's like a difference. So I feel like the
Speaker 6: competition level has really dwindled down, and you could tell
Speaker 6: about the performances when you watch. When you watch the shows,
Speaker 6: you'd be like, oh my god, he sounded like he
Speaker 6: read that off the paper.
Speaker 2: So true.
Speaker 6: So it's just like the I don't think the quality
Speaker 6: level is there, And I think a lot of stuff
Speaker 6: is based on social media, like likes, what is people
Speaker 6: actually looking at?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you get famous first before you actually
Speaker 3: have to have any talent. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: that's super frustrating.
Speaker 2: One of the things that's also weird to me about
Speaker 2: the world of self tapes is that we are now
Speaker 2: essentially responsible for being dps and camera operators and like
Speaker 2: people people are amazing and by the way, amazing ingenuity, right,
Speaker 2: people making really creative tapes. Like I've seen some things
Speaker 2: where I'm like wow, And then I'm also like, that's
Speaker 2: not my job, right, job as an actor is to
Speaker 2: show up and work with a DP and an entire
Speaker 2: camera department and like set decorators. And the pressure that's
Speaker 2: being put on people to submit an interesting tape rather
Speaker 2: than just a good performance feels wild to me.
Speaker 3: Well pay me, Like if I'm going to take six
Speaker 3: hours out of my day to set up lights, figure
Speaker 3: out how to get a camera operator to come into
Speaker 3: my house, find a reader that's really great, find us,
Speaker 3: you know, make sure I've got the sound right. Then
Speaker 3: I got to get after I'm done taping, I got
Speaker 3: to get on my computer and edit everything. Then I
Speaker 3: got to figure out how to upload it to the
Speaker 3: right thing. Like it is. It is a serious job
Speaker 3: they're asking us to do and a lot of and
Speaker 3: we're not gonna pay for that.
Speaker 2: And the turnarounds. Have you guys noticed how short the
Speaker 2: turnarounds have gotten? Like I got asked to read for
Speaker 2: a project I was very excited about, and they wanted
Speaker 2: a tape from me the next afternoon and it was
Speaker 2: fourteen pages.
Speaker 3: Stop it right now, heavy material. No, you need to
Speaker 3: be paid for that, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I was like, guys, I have like podcasts I have
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: Like I'm busy.
Speaker 2: My Google calendar is full. I could maybe do this
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. But they were like, yeah, but it's due
Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon. And I was like, I think I have
Speaker 2: to say no because for this director, who I really respect,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to submit a bad fourteen page day. But also
Speaker 4: fourteen pages.
Speaker 3: They know what they need within the first thirty seconds
Speaker 3: of watching that video.
Speaker 2: They know crazy. It's crazy ith It's.
Speaker 6: Easy, so easy, and it's watered down. That's why I'm like, damn.
Speaker 6: I'm like, but I know, I think I know what
Speaker 6: they're scared of because when you think about when you
Speaker 6: think about it, it actually benefits the studio to be
Speaker 6: on strike because we don't get streaming.
Speaker 5: That's what we're fighting for.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 5: At the beginning of the year, the.
Speaker 6: Studios are in complete debt because they have to shoot
Speaker 6: one hundred pilots and they have to give everybody a
Speaker 6: budget four one hundred pilots. Then they only pick up fifty.
Speaker 6: Then they have to give them budgets for ten episodes
Speaker 6: or thirteen episodes or whatever, so they don't make any
Speaker 6: money until around October. So if the writers and the
Speaker 6: actors shut down and people are still watching shows and
Speaker 6: they don't see any new episodes, what do they do?
Speaker 6: They start watching other stuff, So streaming goes up. And
Speaker 6: when the streaming goes up, the studio gets paid, so
Speaker 6: they get out of debt while we while we struggle,
Speaker 6: they get out of debt. And they just don't want
Speaker 6: to give us that point zero zero four percent. But
Speaker 6: see a lot of people don't understand what that means.
Speaker 6: That means if we're only asking for that, that means
Speaker 6: that these shares are being sold in the stock market,
Speaker 6: and if that stock ever makes it to one penny,
Speaker 6: that's four hundred million dollars. So even though to point
Speaker 6: zero zero four don't sound like a lot, that's much
Speaker 6: money that they don't want to share with us, and
Speaker 6: they making millions. They just don't want us to own
Speaker 6: a piece of it. So it's just like it actually
Speaker 6: benefits them to be on strike. But if the big
Speaker 6: boys is saying, hey, we the investors, even though you
Speaker 6: might make two billion. After you get at a debt,
Speaker 6: we may lose that over here.
Speaker 3: But if we don't strike, then there's no opportunity even
Speaker 3: at all for us to be able to try and
Speaker 3: have some leverage and get in well.
Speaker 2: I think what's also very hard is we're talking about
Speaker 2: an industry that's robbing Peter to pay Paul, like film
Speaker 2: has been taken over by tech investors, former heads of
Speaker 2: electrical companies, people who don't make films, they don't make art.
Speaker 2: They're looking at the bottom line of a balance sheet,
Speaker 2: and so they're looking at dollars and acting like all
Speaker 2: of these dollars are simply amounts in a bank account
Speaker 2: and not dollars that are made on the backs of people.
Speaker 2: And it's really hard when they're going, well, if we're
Speaker 2: making nineteen billion dollars a quarter, they're making record breaking profits.
Speaker 2: What we could do is we could compete with Netflix,
Speaker 2: so we could each launch a streaming service. Nobody asks
Speaker 2: for that, Nobody wants it.
Speaker 7: It's too many services, it's too many subscription fees. All
Speaker 7: the consumers are going, we don't actually want this. We
Speaker 7: just want to watch good TV and we want to
Speaker 7: see good movies.
Speaker 3: But these these.
Speaker 2: People much like you see all these ding dongs in
Speaker 2: the space race being like, oh, I'm so rich, I
Speaker 2: should build a rocket.
Speaker 4: I'm like, should you? Or should you?
Speaker 2: Maybe just give all your employees healthcare? Like what you know?
Speaker 2: These ding dongs are like, well, look at what Netflix?
Speaker 5: Did?
Speaker 2: We want a Netflix? And it's like, but maybe you
Speaker 2: don't need a Netflix. And also Netflix is this big
Speaker 2: profitable corporation theoretically, but they're taking a loss every year,
Speaker 2: so perhaps don't don't run your business model on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so we as these workers and these artists. You know,
Speaker 2: our crews are friends in this industry, the folks doing
Speaker 2: VFX and running sound production and all this stuff. We
Speaker 2: are making studios record breaking profits. They are taking the
Speaker 2: money we make and deciding to go launch a new
Speaker 2: company instead of sharing, to Antoine's point point one four
Speaker 2: percent of the money we make for them with us.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's the psychology though, of
Speaker 3: someone who is not creative, who's not on a set,
Speaker 3: who is not an artist, has no real concept of
Speaker 3: the work that we actually do. In fact, the last
Speaker 3: movie I was right, the last movie I shot, I
Speaker 3: was told in these words, you are a body that talks.
Speaker 3: That's what I was told on set.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: So this is the psychology that we're dealing with, just
Speaker 3: no concept of the work that we actually do, what
Speaker 3: we really bring to the table. It's like, oh, you're
Speaker 3: You're just a form that speaks stand there. Yeah, totally disposable.
Speaker 6: It's crazy because I know you might get twenty seven
Speaker 6: checks and they like three dollars, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I would even mail me this, and the stamp costs
Speaker 6: more than the actual check, Like you know, you wet paper,
Speaker 6: you know, you put all this on one check, like and
Speaker 6: it literally happens. I see so many people posting, and
Speaker 6: I thought I was the only one for so long.
Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, I got like twenty two checks over here.
Speaker 6: The wife would be like, how much is it. I'd
Speaker 6: be like, uh, we can't go to lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, well it's eight dollars and fourteen sons.
Speaker 6: So cool, terrible, But that strength is a difference. It's
Speaker 6: a difference for us. And I know it because maybe
Speaker 6: about fifteen years ago, I was meeting with a lot
Speaker 6: of people and trying to figure out how to how
Speaker 6: to like own a smaller studio because I noticed that
Speaker 6: when you have a smaller studio, they don't really compete
Speaker 6: with you. They just kind of join the If they
Speaker 6: see that you got some traction you and you could
Speaker 6: get projects done for a cheaper price, you could do this,
Speaker 6: and the studios don't hate. They don't go, oh no,
Speaker 6: he's competition. They'd be like, no, we'll put a little
Speaker 6: bit of money behind you, but we want a percentage
Speaker 6: of that. Keep doing your thing because they don't they
Speaker 6: don't have the relationships that you have. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 6: not able to shoot the projects at the budget that
Speaker 6: you are able to shoot the projects at because your
Speaker 6: friends are coming in and helping you out and everybody
Speaker 6: else is going to charge the studio top dollars. So
Speaker 6: it's kind of a way that I that I look
Speaker 6: at and be like, damn, these guys are just their
Speaker 6: number guys. They don't they don't really see everything behind
Speaker 6: the scenes. They just look at us and just say, oh,
Speaker 6: it's numbers. If the numbers don't make sense, then it
Speaker 6: probably is not good. And that's why they keep redoing shows,
Speaker 6: like they keep giving tons of money to these kids
Speaker 6: to do Jersey Shores and all of this because the
Speaker 6: influence and they don't paying them to them. Well, now
Speaker 6: they're paying them really good, really good damn money, but
Speaker 6: in the eyes of what they're making.
Speaker 4: Well, and now they're unionizing. I love that the love
Speaker 4: sifted kids are like way to tick. And as a
Speaker 4: result of this strike, these two strikes with WGA and
Speaker 4: sag Aftra, now the animators and the special effects guys
Speaker 4: are also unionizing, which is awesome. So our hope is
Speaker 4: that we can continue to support people to unionize and
Speaker 4: to stand up for their rights and their worth. And
Speaker 4: in the meantime, we're going to provide this platform so
Speaker 4: that our family members from the shows that we've worked
Speaker 4: on get to talk about things they've never gotten to
Speaker 4: talk about before, like you are not a disposable person, Antoine,
Speaker 4: and so we want to ask you these twenty three
Speaker 4: questions and learn as much about you as possible over
Speaker 4: the course of this episode. Yes, these are all things
Speaker 4: that you bring as you.
Speaker 3: You bring all this stuff with you when you go
Speaker 3: to create a character. This is exciting. I'm so excited
Speaker 3: to dive in with you and learn more about you.
Speaker 5: And here it says I'm really loving the gray hair,
Speaker 5: isn't it so good. It looks so good on you.
Speaker 5: I swear it looks so good.
Speaker 4: It's always been you and me twin. We should have
Speaker 4: had that love story on tree hobbed.
Speaker 6: Damn.
Speaker 4: Okay, who wants to ask the first question? I'll go
Speaker 4: go joy.
Speaker 3: Okay, Antoine, What is your idea of perfect happiness?
Speaker 6: Perfect happiness is uh financial freedom and be able to
Speaker 6: go do what you want to do and relax and
Speaker 6: not have to worry about your bills.
Speaker 5: That's perfect happiness for me.
Speaker 4: All right, Well then maybe along those same lines, Number
Speaker 4: two is what is your greatest fear?
Speaker 5: My greatest fear is to not have any family.
Speaker 6: That's my greatest fear because like it's so lonely, and
Speaker 6: everybody don't understand that. When you had those quiet moments
Speaker 6: and it's kind of like damn, like it's really.
Speaker 5: Just me, like yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So it was like I was it was weird because
Speaker 6: I had I was on my way to work one
Speaker 6: that I work at this little warehouse and I was
Speaker 6: on my way to work one night and I was like, damn,
Speaker 6: it's late. You know how sometimes you just driving and
Speaker 6: you want to talk to somebody on your way there,
Speaker 6: and I was like, damn, I ain't got nobody to call,
Speaker 6: so I called my wife, like, baby, I'm your friend.
Speaker 5: It's late, what's up?
Speaker 6: Because it is like and you don't really realize it
Speaker 6: because I know, growing up we have so many, so
Speaker 6: many associates until certain stuff happens in there you actually
Speaker 6: get to see who that circle is. So it's like
Speaker 6: and I never thought that I would like see it
Speaker 6: the way that I saw it, But then it was like, damn,
Speaker 6: they was right, you know, Like you know, I remember
Speaker 6: when you was back in the day, your mama always
Speaker 6: tell you all them that ain't your friend, they ain't
Speaker 6: gonna be around. You just could never see how they
Speaker 6: not be around. Yeah, and three years later you got
Speaker 6: a whole new group of whole new like people.
Speaker 5: And everything around you. And you never thought that you would.
Speaker 6: You just thought, no, I would grow up with this
Speaker 6: person and see they kids they gonna be with that
Speaker 6: person like you just and you doubted your parents so tough.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what do they know?
Speaker 5: You don't know nothing? Quick, that's my boy, and they
Speaker 5: be right on the money. It's just like so crazy,
Speaker 5: but it's like generational because now you see yourself doing
Speaker 5: it with your kids like that, ain't your friend?
Speaker 6: Don't do it? And then you catch yourself because you're like, damn,
Speaker 6: I sound like my dad, Like uh so, yeah, that
Speaker 6: that that's a that's a big that's a big fear
Speaker 6: of mine right there.
Speaker 4: How long have you and your wife been together at
Speaker 4: this point, Antoine?
Speaker 6: Twenty five years? N yeah, twenty five years. We've been
Speaker 6: married eighteen together.
Speaker 5: Twenty five.
Speaker 4: She's so fun.
Speaker 6: Yes, oh upstairs sleeping because you got drunk with her parents.
Speaker 4: Hence the fun. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it, okay. Third question is if you could
Speaker 2: be the best in the world at something, what would
Speaker 2: it be.
Speaker 5: Mmmm. I would say I would want to be the
Speaker 5: best at parenting.
Speaker 4: All android you're in our fields today.
Speaker 2: Hold emotions.
Speaker 6: I want to be the best at parenting because I
Speaker 6: feel like I feel like that it's the parents who
Speaker 6: raised the next generation and you know, take stuff from
Speaker 6: that that generation because now, you know, I remember back
Speaker 6: in the day, my mom and them used to always say,
Speaker 6: they used to call us crazy. Our generation was crazy,
Speaker 6: and now we're calling this generation crazy. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like this generation the kids is crazy, Like
Speaker 6: you know, like praise them, like, oh my god, how
Speaker 6: they just running in the stores, running out of the
Speaker 6: stores with all it is, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: I guess, but a lot of that stuff starts at
Speaker 6: the house. So I think the parents could inform the kids, like,
Speaker 6: you know, certain stuff that's going on without making them
Speaker 6: like latch key kids or you know, pigeon kids or
Speaker 6: we you know, like we spoil our kids. And that's like,
Speaker 6: you know, we always want better for our kids. We
Speaker 6: always want better, but at the same time, we still
Speaker 6: take a little bit away because we don't have the
Speaker 6: tough love to where they don't understand to appreciate certain
Speaker 6: stuff that you do, you know what I'm saying as
Speaker 6: a And so I think sometimes the tough love that
Speaker 6: we got, we take it for granted, like we don't
Speaker 6: really know.
Speaker 5: Like damn, I remember my mom used to be on
Speaker 5: me for.
Speaker 6: This base blah, and I was just I'm thought so hard,
Speaker 6: fought it so hard, and now out here I am
Speaker 6: with the same traits doing some of the same stuff.
Speaker 6: So a lot of the stuff that you fought you
Speaker 6: use now now and you do it subconsciously because you
Speaker 6: don't even know. And then you pay attention later, like,
Speaker 6: did I just put that cash in that envelope and
Speaker 6: write gas bill on it and lick it and close
Speaker 6: it and put it in the so that way I
Speaker 6: wouldn't touch it. You you was not putting it in
Speaker 6: the bank because one of these subscriptions might snatch it,
Speaker 6: because you'd be forgetting how many subscriptions you got. So
Speaker 6: that way they don't take it, and you make sure
Speaker 6: that you could pay that bill. And I'll be feeling
Speaker 6: so old when I go look in the cabinet and
Speaker 6: I got these three with forty seven dollars and sixteen
Speaker 6: cent in.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, speaking of cabinets, what is the weirdest
Speaker 3: item you keep by your bed?
Speaker 5: A bag of cookies?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind they kind of cookies.
Speaker 6: The soft baked, the soft baked milk, chocolate ones. The
Speaker 6: I think it's from Salcito or.
Speaker 4: The oh the little white bags.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the white bag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like pills Free.
Speaker 3: Farm or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Because I wake up at three in the morning, I
Speaker 6: just I don't want to walk downstairs, so I eat
Speaker 6: a cookie and drink some water and go back to sleep.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 4: That's what you want at three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: like I need a cookie. Listen, when you're a little kid,
Speaker 4: you think all the time, like when I'm a grown up,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be able to do anything I want.
Speaker 4: And that's one of those things that pays off. It's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I am going to.
Speaker 3: Get a midnight snacks. Nobody can stop me.
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 6: I got a freezer full of freeze pops right now.
Speaker 6: You knows that all connected different flavors. I got a
Speaker 6: freezer full of them, and I remember as a kid,
Speaker 6: I used to steal them out the freezer, take like
Speaker 6: five or six and put it under my pillow, and
Speaker 6: then I would eat them one by one, like in
Speaker 6: the bed, you know, and Mom be like, who hate
Speaker 6: all the freeze pops? I'd be like, I got a
Speaker 6: freezer full of them, and I don't. I barely touch it.
Speaker 4: No, it's just good to know that they're there yet.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So who is the living person that
Speaker 4: you most admire?
Speaker 6: I would say my my aunt because she like she's
Speaker 6: so strong, Like she's been sick for a while and
Speaker 6: she's so strong, but she always like take on everybody
Speaker 6: else problem. She one of those people just like takes
Speaker 6: on everybody else's problem, takes no matter what. She can't
Speaker 6: do nothing for you, but she takes on everybody's problem.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like you like, damn, superhero, we
Speaker 6: got your back. Like you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 6: just you know, life changes, it changes for you. But
Speaker 6: but but but I think it gets better though.
Speaker 4: So where is she right now?
Speaker 5: She in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna try to go.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to pull up on her next month, hopefully,
Speaker 6: hopefully get out there to go see her before it
Speaker 6: get cold, because I hate going to the city when
Speaker 6: it's cold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about Chicago's the worst in school?
Speaker 4: No, thank you.
Speaker 6: It's too cold at home? Oh yeah, you used to
Speaker 6: live there, so yeah, it's too cold at home. Would
Speaker 6: that be like three degrees? And then you get negative
Speaker 6: yeah and none.
Speaker 2: The lake effect hits you in the face and you're like,
Speaker 2: why did we settle here?
Speaker 4: Why did we choose this Antoinea California? Boy?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, baby, I'm good.
Speaker 5: I'm good. I wake up in this hot outside. I'm cool.
Speaker 2: It's so nice.
Speaker 4: What is your current state of mind?
Speaker 5: Mmm?
Speaker 6: I would say empty right now because we're saying, Limbo,
Speaker 6: we don't know what the hell is going on with
Speaker 6: this strike, you know what I'm saying. So a lot
Speaker 6: of people is scrammed. I'm watching everybody. Everybody's scrambling. But
Speaker 6: you got a they were like, we were part of
Speaker 6: the last strike, and we were fortunate because we went
Speaker 6: right back to work, so we didn't really we basically
Speaker 6: got a little vacation because we were already working, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, And then we got a little vacation.
Speaker 6: And I don't think we was out for that long.
Speaker 6: What was it like, maybe like four or five weeks
Speaker 6: or something like that, and.
Speaker 2: We went it was only four yah, Yeah.
Speaker 6: And we went right back to work, so we didn't
Speaker 6: really feel the raft of it. But I'm seeing a
Speaker 6: lot of people around me that was filling the raft
Speaker 6: with you know, with no job, and I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 6: and I think it's I honestly don't think we're going
Speaker 6: back to work until March. That's just that's my personal
Speaker 6: just what I'm just from what I'm looking at and
Speaker 6: what i'm seeing, and like all the development, so I
Speaker 6: feel like it's empty because we have no clue what's
Speaker 6: going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels vindictive this time around in a different way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you can feel and see the ego
Speaker 2: dripping off of this. This is not people disagreeing about
Speaker 2: how to get something done. This is an unbelievably wealthy
Speaker 2: ruling class trying to exact pain on people they view
Speaker 2: as minions, people they view as expendable. And I think
Speaker 2: what's waking a lot of people up in the world
Speaker 2: is they go, oh, we thought actors and writers were privileged.
Speaker 2: We thought all of you guys were wealthy. We thought.
Speaker 2: And people are realizing that eighty seven percent of the
Speaker 2: people in SAG don't make enough money to qualify for healthcare.
Speaker 2: They're realizing that, like some of the highest paid writers
Speaker 2: in the industry make, if they're lucky, seventy five K
Speaker 2: a year, and that's money that their whole team also
Speaker 2: takes a percentage of. Like for us, if you get
Speaker 2: a job that actually pays you like decent money, it
Speaker 2: might take you twenty years to get it, you might
Speaker 2: only have it for ten episodes, and you know, you
Speaker 2: give forty percent of what people here you earn a
Speaker 2: way to everybody on your team, and that's a privilege,
Speaker 2: you know, to be part of an industry where if
Speaker 2: we eat, everybody eats is pretty cool. But I think
Speaker 2: people for the first time in this moment are realizing
Speaker 2: that much like you know, executives at oil companies, the
Speaker 2: executives at these entertainment companies are making two hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars a year and most of their employees are living
Speaker 2: paycheck to paycheck if they're lucky, if they don't have
Speaker 2: to have second jobs. And I don't know anybody, you know,
Speaker 2: nobody in my close group of friends doesn't have a
Speaker 2: second job. I mean, this is our second job, you know.
Speaker 2: And I think it's I think it's been very sobering
Speaker 2: for people. And I do think that's important because the
Speaker 2: the reality everyone's seeing right now is why you see
Speaker 2: so many unions coming together right Like not just us,
Speaker 2: the writers, the animators, the visual effects guys, but like
Speaker 2: we've got the flight attendants union picketing with us in LA.
Speaker 2: We've got UPS striking with us across the the country.
Speaker 2: Like by the way, the UPS drivers just one hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy thousand dollars a year salaries with benefits.
Speaker 4: I am so happy, Yeah, thank god, go get it.
Speaker 2: And it's like I think it's really inspiring that people
Speaker 2: are being so vulnerable because finally people are realizing that
Speaker 2: it's really the majority of us that are in this
Speaker 2: together and we're just trying to figure it out. And
Speaker 2: I think it's important that we're honest about what that
Speaker 2: limbo looks like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, limbo's the perfect word to describe it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the word limbo, I see it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: limbo is what it is because we are definitely unsure
Speaker 6: about what's going to happen over the next six months.
Speaker 3: Well, you're probably spending a lot more time with your
Speaker 3: friends because you have more free time. Now, what do
Speaker 3: you value most in your friends?
Speaker 5: You know, just being there? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I think at our age, you know, when they just
Speaker 6: dare for you, it's like damn because sometimes you don't
Speaker 6: really have that no answer and you don't really have
Speaker 6: you know, some of the elders that you have may
Speaker 6: have been around you, they're not around no more. So
Speaker 6: it's just like damn. So you don't have that support system.
Speaker 6: That's what I said, Like, we took certain stuff for
Speaker 6: granted to where you know, you could call your grandma
Speaker 6: and be like ah, and even though she might cuss
Speaker 6: you out and not what you want to say, But
Speaker 6: now you actually need that little pep talk to get up,
Speaker 6: shut up, stop crying, get up. Come on, we got
Speaker 6: to get out here and do this. So that's what
Speaker 6: you value, that from your friends, the ones that just
Speaker 6: keep pushing you to to not give up, especially right
Speaker 6: now because we just had so it's been so traumatic
Speaker 6: for us for the last three years as a country,
Speaker 6: as a people, just period with everything that this country
Speaker 6: just went through, from COVID to you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying to the Black Lives Matter More to do you
Speaker 6: know I said, to everything that we have, the LGBT
Speaker 6: community movement.
Speaker 5: It's just so much going on for us right now.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 3: So having a safe space with your friends, you.
Speaker 6: Need that you have to push we gottad from that circle.
Speaker 2: On what occasion do you lie.
Speaker 5: M when I go to work? Yo, it's crazy. I
Speaker 5: told I told my people.
Speaker 6: I said, Man, one thing about me, I'm a great actor,
Speaker 6: but I'm a terrible liar because I can't remember all
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 5: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I loved when you would walk on to set and
Speaker 4: pretend like you'd read everything and be like, of course,
Speaker 4: I know what's going on. And then we found out
Speaker 4: years later that you did not read the whole scripts,
Speaker 4: and you'd be like, oh, this is crazy. Wow, who knew?
Speaker 6: I just remember that one episode that was so vivid,
Speaker 6: and I was talking to Lee and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: because tomorrow we gotta film the funeral scene.
Speaker 5: And I was like, the funeral. Oh damn. We at
Speaker 5: the sim I was like, who died? He was I
Speaker 5: didn't read it.
Speaker 6: I was like, nah, I just read my little card.
Speaker 6: I ain't know nobody died. I can't wait to see
Speaker 6: this episode. Oh my gosh, I know he was filming
Speaker 6: the funeral.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 4: Next question, what is one thing you will never do again?
Speaker 4: Tory Devido said jumping out of an airplane. She was like,
Speaker 4: I am not ever going to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 5: Oh damn. That's a tough one because I think I
Speaker 5: do everything I did again.
Speaker 4: That's a sign of a good life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I do everything because I don't really
Speaker 6: do stuff I don't want to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I've never been a followers, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 6: if they want to go down now, man, I'm not
Speaker 6: doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Maybe I would take that gang banging.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's a bad move.
Speaker 5: I mean, take that gang banger.
Speaker 4: You say that now because you're an adult, because you're
Speaker 4: a parent, and now you sound like the adults in
Speaker 4: your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, gang banging was bad, but at the time it
Speaker 6: was really really fun and that's what everybody was doing,
Speaker 6: So you know what I'm saying. We didn't look at
Speaker 6: the outcome that it would have on the community. We
Speaker 6: just was like, this is our street. We run this
Speaker 6: and we ain't letting you come over here and do nothing.
Speaker 6: And then you get grown to be like I'd never
Speaker 6: owned nothing on that street, so I was out fighting
Speaker 6: so hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: Because kids look for a place to belong, you know,
Speaker 4: you need the group, And that's.
Speaker 2: Exactly what you're talking about, right, Like so many of
Speaker 2: the things we're discussing are what sort of exposure do
Speaker 2: you have to like other people, to other communities, and
Speaker 2: when you are in a moment of your life or
Speaker 2: maybe a geographical place or you know, an era like
Speaker 2: the one you're talking about where you don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of options. It's not like you're picking off a
Speaker 2: whole menu. Somebody's been like, well you could do a
Speaker 2: B or C and like you have to do one
Speaker 2: of them. And you know, maybe maybe you grow up
Speaker 2: in a very diverse community where you know so many
Speaker 2: kinds of people. Maybe you don't. Maybe you grow up
Speaker 2: somewhere where everybody does the same thing and looks the
Speaker 2: same and believes the same thing. Like, I think the
Speaker 2: most inspiring thing is when you evolve in your life
Speaker 2: and you start to have like more and more people, places,
Speaker 2: experiences to choose from and understand, Like you can look
Speaker 2: back at your life and go, what was I doing
Speaker 2: as a young man behaving that way? Because now you
Speaker 2: don't have an ABC, You've got a whole alphabet of
Speaker 2: experience in humans and communities and groups you pick from
Speaker 2: and love and defend. And the way you show up
Speaker 2: for people and defend people and like you know, metaphorically
Speaker 2: show up when the block needs you is so different
Speaker 2: than it was when you were a teenager, and like
Speaker 2: how beautiful?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so different, so different.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean we did some bad stuff, but
Speaker 6: you know, we was kids, so we learned from it now.
Speaker 6: But we don't even hang out and those when I
Speaker 6: go home now and I go to Chicago, I am
Speaker 6: in the house.
Speaker 5: I literally go to my cousin's house, my aunt's house,
Speaker 5: my mother cousin's house.
Speaker 6: We go over here, we go over here, we do
Speaker 6: like they barbecue, they eat, they cook. We you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. They somebody else comes over, they talk.
Speaker 6: They that's it. Back then, we didn't know do that.
Speaker 6: We thought that was so boring, Like I'm going outside.
Speaker 4: Everybody thinks the grown ups are corny, right, and then
Speaker 4: you become a grown up and you're like, I love corny.
Speaker 4: Well like that meme.
Speaker 2: That's like all the things you hated as a child
Speaker 2: become your greatest pleasures as adults. Napping, drinking more water, generally,
Speaker 2: not going to the party.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I know, you know, you know, our party,
Speaker 6: our party, our party every night when we filmed every
Speaker 6: Now like now I haven't been to a club, And.
Speaker 5: Well I went. When I was in Vegas, I went
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 4: Twenty year old.
Speaker 6: I would go watch the performancess, like I know I
Speaker 6: could get in. So it was like, what time does
Speaker 6: he perform? Oh about two thirty cool, I see you
Speaker 6: around two fifteen. I slide in, watched the show Slide Out.
Speaker 6: I was literally in the bed like like my days
Speaker 6: in Vegas when I was working out there, I literally
Speaker 6: would be at the hotel all day, go to work
Speaker 6: for two hours, and go right back to the hotel.
Speaker 6: But back then, there's no way I would have ever
Speaker 6: been in that hotel room. I would have been at
Speaker 6: the spot, at the party, on the table.
Speaker 4: Getting out all that energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did dance on a lot of tables. Were
Speaker 2: good at it.
Speaker 5: I'm chilling.
Speaker 2: I feel the same now. I'm like, I will come
Speaker 2: to see the music. But that's the only reason.
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's pivot, Antoine. What's the strangest purchase
Speaker 3: you've ever made or almost made? If you don't have
Speaker 3: a something specific that you did purchase.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna even lie. Me and my wife was
Speaker 6: talking one day and she was like, you always on
Speaker 6: the road and stop me. So I bought one of
Speaker 6: these little We ordered this little fake, this little fake right.
Speaker 2: Like a flashlight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, this, ain't it. I never that.
Speaker 6: We ordered and it thought it was gonna be so wonderful,
Speaker 6: And then we got home.
Speaker 5: I gotta put grease in it. Not but I gotta
Speaker 5: curt this up. I'm straight now, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Make us so you could put them in the swasher,
Speaker 4: and I've had this conversation with friends.
Speaker 2: I can't I am the color of my hat.
Speaker 6: I can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. I'm so glad you just admitted it.
Speaker 4: Please tell me though, that you just like put it
Speaker 4: out on the coffee table when people come over sometimes
Speaker 4: just as like a conversation starter, because that's the kind
Speaker 4: of shit that I find so fun, you know what.
Speaker 5: I wish I could find it because it might be because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 4: God, just like put it out with like you know
Speaker 4: at Christmas when you decorate with like little trees and
Speaker 4: the fake village and stuff. Just put it out there.
Speaker 4: It's like a water tower.
Speaker 3: Some eminem's and you got to reach inside to grab
Speaker 3: the mms and.
Speaker 2: Like, look a candy I cannot. I can't look at
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on top of the candy bowl. These are the
Speaker 4: conversations we used to have.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, total chains of subject. Who are your
Speaker 2: favorite writers? Could be? You know, screenplay writers, novels, whatever you.
Speaker 4: Like, musicians, poets, whatever.
Speaker 5: Who are who is my favorite writers that that I like?
Speaker 5: I've worked with so many people, it's like certain stuff
Speaker 5: is it's good.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've done some projects that you'd be like,
Speaker 6: what the hell is this project? That some of them
Speaker 6: too B movies is horrible but funny at the same
Speaker 6: time because they're so bad that they're hilarious that they're
Speaker 6: so bad, Like I can't remember this writer's name, but
Speaker 6: everything that they wrote. One of my favorite writers that
Speaker 6: like comedy is Dave Chappelle. Yeah, he's one of my
Speaker 6: favorite writers. Is because I think he thinks smart. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he thinks Devil's advocate outside the box from like a
Speaker 6: strange point of view to where you almost feel like.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 6: I never thought about it like that, but I did
Speaker 6: think about it like that, but I would never say that,
Speaker 6: but he just said it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Far as as far as comedy, I think he has
Speaker 6: a really clever a clever comedy that's like it's like
Speaker 6: a controversial clever comedy, the kind of like well, I
Speaker 6: mean by like it's like back in the day, we
Speaker 6: used to watch like All in the Family, which was
Speaker 6: one of my favorite shows and I still watch that
Speaker 6: show now and I did not realize how racist the
Speaker 6: show was. Really started watching the show, was like, damn,
Speaker 6: this show is so racist and it was my favorite show.
Speaker 6: But the writing that Norman Lear and them did it
Speaker 6: was such a clever and I kind of like, look
Speaker 6: at that comedy like Sam from His Son was so
Speaker 6: racist All in the Family, like all of those shows
Speaker 6: with the Jeffersons, they was also such racist show Who's It?
Speaker 6: But it was so funny because they basically made you
Speaker 6: laugh at the ignorance that people had. So I like
Speaker 6: that because it kind of like slaps the ignorant in
Speaker 6: the face and make them look at a difference.
Speaker 4: Then well, and you've been really vocal about your support
Speaker 4: of the LGBTQ plus community because you know you have
Speaker 4: family members that identify as a part of that community,
Speaker 4: and so some of this more provocative stuff that you're
Speaker 4: drawn to do you feel like it's just a tension release,
Speaker 4: where because it's such sensitive subject matter, you need a
Speaker 4: voice just to make it laughable so that it's palatable.
Speaker 4: Is that kind of what you're looking for.
Speaker 6: In a sense, because I think for so long that's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. As a generation, our generation was taught
Speaker 6: different things about their community.
Speaker 5: Their community not correct.
Speaker 6: In the Bible it says this, but we were drilled
Speaker 6: with that kids, that's not right, that's not right. They
Speaker 6: can't feel that way. They can't do this, they can't
Speaker 6: do that. Meanwhile, I was around people that actually felt
Speaker 6: that way, you know what I'm saying, but that for
Speaker 6: them to feel that way, it was wrong, but that's
Speaker 6: just how they felt. So it was like, hey, if
Speaker 6: you like it, I love it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 6: I'll support you. You my people. If that's what you
Speaker 6: want to do, go ahead and do it. It may
Speaker 6: not be what I'm into. You know that don't turn
Speaker 6: me on, but if that turns you on, by all means,
Speaker 6: do your thing, you know what I'm saying. But we
Speaker 6: would just talk that So I think it's more we
Speaker 6: don't have the education on it, you know, we don't
Speaker 6: sit down with that side and talk it out to
Speaker 6: understand bam bam bam, bam bam, and then we're still
Speaker 6: coming with those old judgments. And I think we need
Speaker 6: to change that that portion because it's different. I mean,
Speaker 6: we don't have to accept everything either, that's detrimental to us,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think we need.
Speaker 6: To It needs to be more of an open discussion
Speaker 6: so you could hear both sides. My daughter came out
Speaker 6: to me she was scared to come out to me,
Speaker 6: and she came out to me and I knew it.
Speaker 6: I knew it early. I was just just like, hmm,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I never forget watching some
Speaker 6: I think it was some It was some girl that
Speaker 6: was on some video. We was watching the TV and
Speaker 6: my daughter was like, oh, Dad, she is fine, ain't she?
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, she is. But the way
Speaker 5: she said it was.
Speaker 6: Like like one of my homeboys.
Speaker 5: I was like, you got good taste of baby. The
Speaker 5: girl was good.
Speaker 6: So I kind of knew you know what I'm saying
Speaker 6: at that point, and it was just just like okay, So,
Speaker 6: but that dialogue has to be open, like for sure,
Speaker 6: it has to be open because we don't understand it.
Speaker 6: You don't understand you feel uncomfortable, and when you feel
Speaker 6: like you usually run away and you don't want to
Speaker 6: hear about it, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 6: like everybody putting the wall up. Everybody puts the wall up.
Speaker 6: Everybody puts a wall up.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things comedians are great at is
Speaker 3: keeping the dialogues open, just like point pointing out all
Speaker 3: the things ripping open the ripping open the seams so
Speaker 3: everybody doesn't feel so stiff, you know, to be able
Speaker 3: to just open it up so conversations can happen.
Speaker 5: Right, they can laugh, and it's a break the ice
Speaker 5: moment for every for everything.
Speaker 4: Well, even if it's like awful and controversial, at least
Speaker 4: it's an opportunity for families to push pause and talk.
Speaker 4: You know, like sometimes it's nice to have a bad
Speaker 4: guy that's outside of the house that's bringing up something
Speaker 4: controversial so that you inside the house can discuss it
Speaker 4: and it be fodder for for like you said, an
Speaker 4: open dialogue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also know one of your favorite writers is
Speaker 3: Phil Collins.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I love you. I need to listen to Field that
Speaker 5: the I'm gonna wash my car and listen to Field.
Speaker 4: What is your favorite Genesis song?
Speaker 5: And Too Deep? I love that song? Yeah, in too Deepest,
Speaker 5: in Too Deep at the one that picked that. That
Speaker 5: might be the top for Genesis, you know, but Phil
Speaker 5: got so many so it's like Phil got too many
Speaker 5: a time all time. Yeah, he's he's hard. But and
Speaker 5: I went to his last concert at the Staples. I
Speaker 5: went by myself because wife and them didn't want to
Speaker 5: go so she was just like, you canna go. I
Speaker 5: was like, man, I'm going by myself. I don't care
Speaker 5: if nobody.
Speaker 2: Girl, Oh my god, I wish i'd been home. I'd
Speaker 2: have gone with you in a heartbeat.
Speaker 6: At I had a my friends from college. I call
Speaker 6: her low Flow. Her name is Laura. She used to
Speaker 6: always give me a ride home when we was in college,
Speaker 6: and she was like, I drop you off because you know,
Speaker 6: I had a bus pass back then and she had
Speaker 6: a car, so she would drop me off and drop
Speaker 6: me off at home. And she loved Phil Collins too,
Speaker 6: so me and her used to go to all the
Speaker 6: Phil Collins concerts together because I didn't have a ride.
Speaker 6: So she was the like, I get the ticket, I
Speaker 6: got my financial age check, let's roll. So I had
Speaker 6: a buddy to go with me, but this last time
Speaker 6: myself because.
Speaker 5: She couldn't go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you had a ball all right. Other
Speaker 4: end of the spectrum, what is your greatest regret? And
Speaker 4: this doesn't have to be serious. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 4: there was a Phil Collins concert you missed somewhere up inside.
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 6: My greatest regret is not doing not staying as a
Speaker 6: series regular on TV instead of choosing movies because at
Speaker 6: the time, you know, in our careers, everybody wanted to
Speaker 6: do film.
Speaker 5: It was film, film, film, film. Your agents and.
Speaker 6: Manager used to like get you away from TV because
Speaker 6: they didn't want you to be like locked down on
Speaker 6: the show and you can't do other stuff.
Speaker 5: So it was like, I.
Speaker 6: Think, and I was getting offered show after show after show.
Speaker 6: I think I should have stuck with TV instead of films.
Speaker 4: Remember when they convinced us that like TV was tacky.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, you're a TV actor.
Speaker 3: Yep, now it's all mm tacky. The UK was always
Speaker 3: like that, they mixed up stage, TV, film, soaps, SITC
Speaker 3: like it was all mixed up. Nobody cared. Judy Dench
Speaker 3: would go do a soap opera and then go do
Speaker 3: a commercial, and then go do a TV show and
Speaker 3: then go win an oscar. Like it's just so silly
Speaker 3: that we were. We had such a strange little hierarchy.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad it seems to have dissipated now completely. Actually, okay,
Speaker 3: where are we?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, Antoine, what's something that you really dislike?
Speaker 5: I really dislike greedy studios?
Speaker 2: Yes, get them?
Speaker 6: Yes, I really dislike greedy Green Studios. Yeah, just fair,
Speaker 6: That's what I dislike right now. That's the pet peeve
Speaker 6: in the country right now for us.
Speaker 4: I think everybody's feeling that across the in every business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, greedy studios, greedy CEOs. Bye bye, yep, okay, happy question?
Speaker 2: What or who is the greatest love of your life?
Speaker 5: The greatest love? Well, my wife. I've been with her
Speaker 5: for twenty five years. We've been through it like through
Speaker 5: the ringer. So I mean she wins. M hmm, she wins,
Speaker 5: that's it. She wins, So you know, I know she wins.
Speaker 4: So yeah, how'd you guys meet Antoine? Tell everybody at
Speaker 4: home what your your origin love story is.
Speaker 6: I was going to a I have went to a
Speaker 6: celebrity game that they do in California, snoop them used
Speaker 6: to do it back in the day, a big one,
Speaker 6: and they had a supposedly was supposed to be the
Speaker 6: office show after party and we we got duped. I
Speaker 6: got duped, and she got duped. Her group of friends
Speaker 6: got duped to going to this party. And we going
Speaker 6: to this party. When we got there was so ghetto.
Speaker 6: Were just like nobody here, like they took this shower, like,
Speaker 6: nobody here looks like they took a.
Speaker 5: Shower at all.
Speaker 6: So, and it was so humid and hot in there,
Speaker 6: and it was just sweaty, and everybody was dancing like
Speaker 6: they had a good old time. But I felt like
Speaker 6: I was in a juke joint in Mississippi in the backwoods,
Speaker 6: Like it was really sweaty and inhumid, and I was like, man,
Speaker 6: I'm about to get out of here. So I was
Speaker 6: standing at the stairs and they was walking like leaving,
Speaker 6: like we had just got there.
Speaker 5: And we all was like, I'm about to leave.
Speaker 6: So we was walking down the steps and I was
Speaker 6: I started talking to her walking down the steps, like, man,
Speaker 6: what the hell y'all doing here? Y'all looked like y'all
Speaker 6: took a bath, so I know y'all leaving. And they
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, we leaving. We going to Orange County.
Speaker 6: And we just got to talking and I got her
Speaker 6: number and then I told her. I said, man, did
Speaker 6: you give me the wrong number? And she was like no,
Speaker 6: why would I get youat her wrong number? So I
Speaker 6: had a cell phone at the time, so I called
Speaker 6: her to make sure the number first, and then she
Speaker 6: was like, see, I told you it ain't the wrong number.
Speaker 6: She's like, well he called me right now.
Speaker 5: The game. You know, back then, y'all used to give
Speaker 5: away the wrong number.
Speaker 4: We did. We did that a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all the time again.
Speaker 6: So me, I was like, I'm a straight shooter. If
Speaker 6: you don't want to see me, just tell me now.
Speaker 4: Well, I also liked that you weren't playing it cool.
Speaker 4: You were like, I'm going to wait three days. You
Speaker 4: were like, I'm going to make sure I don't leave
Speaker 4: this environment unless I have the right.
Speaker 5: In for me. I'm calling right now.
Speaker 2: That's such a swaggy move.
Speaker 6: No check right then. And uh then after I went over.
Speaker 6: She used to live by shar She used to live
Speaker 6: in in Orange County, and I was like, damn, you
Speaker 6: live far because I was in our Hamburg.
Speaker 5: I was like, you live far. I was like, right
Speaker 5: back Pasadena.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you were close to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like right here, but I'm like, I come
Speaker 6: out there. So I drove all that way there to
Speaker 6: see her.
Speaker 4: That's love in Los Angeles if you get in the
Speaker 4: mar and brave all that traffic. You loved her crossing the.
Speaker 2: Four oh five is love driving an Orange County Like, no,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That's that's destiny.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Like so if you in Pasadena, could you
Speaker 3: ever imagine dating somebody lived in Santa Monica?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I do, you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a long distance relationship.
Speaker 2: It's so hard. You have to plan your whole life
Speaker 2: around traffic times. Like it's so oh man, it's a no.
Speaker 2: It's a no.
Speaker 4: It's just like a point of reference for anybody that
Speaker 4: doesn't live in California. It'd be like if my kid
Speaker 4: in Hudson Valley was dating someone in Massachusetts or Connecticut,
Speaker 4: Like it is a whole ass other state away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so far.
Speaker 5: She wins for me.
Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah, right, what do we have next?
Speaker 2: Willing to go to the ends of the earth in
Speaker 2: La County for that woman? You cutie?
Speaker 4: All right, listen, when and where were you happiest? You've
Speaker 4: always been ahead of the curve with us, Antoine, Like
Speaker 4: you were working before us, you were a parent before us.
Speaker 4: Now you're an empty nester, you know, Like, in what
Speaker 4: phase were you happiest?
Speaker 5: Hmmm? I think season I think around season four.
Speaker 6: I think around season because that's when I first like
Speaker 6: became like a series regular.
Speaker 5: It was like season four. I think it was when
Speaker 5: we did the state championship.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, God, did it take that long? I thought it.
Speaker 5: Was before it was the whole season.
Speaker 3: You were a regular to us Antoine, you were in
Speaker 3: our hearts before that even happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 6: It was happy then because of like everything was like cool.
Speaker 6: You know, we had money coming in on a regular basis,
Speaker 6: We had just got a new crib. All the kids
Speaker 6: are doing good in school, and you know, and I
Speaker 6: mean you guys know now as a parent, you see
Speaker 6: like your happiness comes by making them smile.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I knew.
Speaker 6: Nobody really understood back then. When we were filming and
Speaker 6: I used to always come back and forth home and
Speaker 6: they'd be like, how you going home at six in
Speaker 6: the morning. I'd be like, cause you got a violin recitle,
Speaker 6: and I, you know what I'm saying. I got to
Speaker 6: be there for that, Like I can't, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I went to the club, stayed up
Speaker 6: all night, and get on the plane in the morning.
Speaker 6: So I make my home because if I would have
Speaker 6: went to sleep, I would have missed that flight, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So it was like but those
Speaker 6: little moments like when and then you know, he's playing
Speaker 6: my other son they both playing basketball, and then my
Speaker 6: daughter got this, and then my other daughter got dance,
Speaker 6: and then you know what I'm saying, So like those
Speaker 6: are like the happy moments because you you have to
Speaker 6: enjoy that now because once they get older, they gotta work,
Speaker 6: They got to do they gotta do this, so you
Speaker 6: don't really get to see him. You see him in passing.
Speaker 6: You know, like once they once they become like adults.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, You see them in passes
Speaker 6: because you're gonna get only again when when when them
Speaker 6: baby girls and that boy gets sixteen and be like
Speaker 6: you don't want to hang with his damn mama.
Speaker 5: At sixteen, it's.
Speaker 4: Already killing me. I'm like, do you want to watch
Speaker 4: a movie? And he's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't want to do that, So you're gonna
Speaker 5: lose that for a minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, what talent would you most like to have?
Speaker 5: Hm? Hmmm, well I know how to cook.
Speaker 4: You keep telling us that, but you have yet to
Speaker 4: prove it to us. Prove it, prove it.
Speaker 6: I used to bring chad food all the time that
Speaker 6: say you should be like, bring me some of them
Speaker 6: neck bones?
Speaker 5: What of them?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 6: I would bring all kinds of food that I would
Speaker 6: cook at because you know, I cooked every day. I
Speaker 6: didn't really eat out too much, you know what I
Speaker 6: said that, Like the brass Re ended up being one
Speaker 6: of my favorite restaurants but myself all the time. But
Speaker 6: that was you know, but other than that, in the
Speaker 6: other little restaurant that shut down downtown was pretty good.
Speaker 6: But if I didn't eat at those two spots, I
Speaker 6: just I would always get off or I would put
Speaker 6: me some food on early in the morning, slow cook
Speaker 6: it in the crack file or something like that.
Speaker 5: So about time. Yeah, a by the time we got
Speaker 5: off set, the food was ready.
Speaker 3: You know, it's grown up.
Speaker 6: It took slow for like, you know, four hours, five hours,
Speaker 6: but at home it was good.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: You get the automatic shut off a certain times so
Speaker 6: you don't burn the river view up.
Speaker 3: Like my husband rock bots can love crocs so easy.
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, so you're good at that. What do you
Speaker 4: want to be good at? What's your secret? Your secret?
Speaker 6: I want to be able to build stuff like I've
Speaker 6: always wanted to like be it, like like I see
Speaker 6: all this beautiful stuff that you could do for the
Speaker 6: house and stuff like that. I can't push together. It's
Speaker 6: always missing. It's the tables leaning. It don't not the
Speaker 6: directions didn't explain it right, like, so I can't put
Speaker 6: it together.
Speaker 3: So you and Hillary really need to get together's she's
Speaker 3: the building queen.
Speaker 6: If you ever buy me anything that I have to assemble,
Speaker 6: there's probably going to be in the box.
Speaker 4: I always help class.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have so many problems putting stuff together. So
Speaker 6: I would really like to be able to build stuff
Speaker 6: or put stuff together.
Speaker 4: Let's do it right on. We could work over Antoine.
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of drills, come over.
Speaker 5: I do got a couple of drills too. They are
Speaker 5: do you use them? The drill bits are still silver.
Speaker 4: They are also still in the box.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 2: You know what I really want to learn how to do.
Speaker 2: I want to learn to drywall, and I really want
Speaker 2: to learn how to tile, like the full I want
Speaker 2: to be able to demo a bathroom and redo the
Speaker 2: shower myself.
Speaker 4: Drywall is not that hard.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about tile, but I thought drywall
Speaker 3: was really intimidating. I had somebody show me once and
Speaker 3: I was blown away. It's actually really easy.
Speaker 2: I can tell it's not tough, but like people who
Speaker 2: can really do a nice smooth surface on a wall,
Speaker 2: because like you know when I don't know, when you've
Speaker 2: had something repaired and you're like it looks a little wonky,
Speaker 2: and then there's like some people who come in and you're.
Speaker 3: Like, wow, this looks so nice.
Speaker 2: I want to know the like real particulars of those skills.
Speaker 6: Yes, I want to take a carpenter class, but then
Speaker 6: I always feel like if I start taking it, it's
Speaker 6: gonna take too long and then I might book a
Speaker 6: job and then I.
Speaker 2: Well, we're on strike.
Speaker 4: Baby, let's go.
Speaker 5: Right now.
Speaker 2: This could be a very useful usage of our time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 6: I'm about to do I'm either do that or I'm
Speaker 6: gonna learn how to dry these trips l classes.
Speaker 4: Listen, Once I learned to drive that r V, now
Speaker 4: every time I see a big vehicle, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: could do that. It's such a such a cocky move.
Speaker 5: It's just like to be able to drive that.
Speaker 6: All that that's power to be able to drive that.
Speaker 5: I got in I did.
Speaker 6: I did a little fake movie where I was supposed
Speaker 6: to be a truck driver and I would be in
Speaker 6: the car. I would be in the truck with the
Speaker 6: guy who was actually like the devil who was driving
Speaker 6: that eighteen.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, that was power for him driving.
Speaker 5: That's power. You.
Speaker 6: You don't realize that until you on the road and
Speaker 6: you'd be like, man, this truck needs to get out
Speaker 6: the way.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You realize how much power
Speaker 5: that is.
Speaker 6: You like, your car will never win the battle against that,
Speaker 6: that big piece of machine.
Speaker 5: So you gotta leave that one alone.
Speaker 4: Always get over so trucks can get in always.
Speaker 6: I would let them. I let them win that battle.
Speaker 6: But I do want to learn how to drive one.
Speaker 4: I like, that's that's hot. I'm in that.
Speaker 5: Okay, you want to learn that.
Speaker 4: Let's see, if you could change one thing about yourself,
Speaker 4: would be.
Speaker 5: Oh, my big heart. I would change that. I wouldn't know, no,
Speaker 5: I would change it because it's a curse and a
Speaker 5: blessing because sometimes that heart could be too big and
Speaker 5: it's a lot of leeches out here, and yeah, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, And so more people pray on
Speaker 5: it because they know you are so giving, so giving,
Speaker 5: so giving, so giving, or not necessarily change it but
Speaker 5: be more thoughtful of it to who you have the
Speaker 5: big heart with.
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying, Because my mind is for everybody.
Speaker 6: It was just for everybody. But can't give it. You can't.
Speaker 5: You can't do for everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you really rather be more closed off? Though?
Speaker 3: Like the alternative is to care less or just.
Speaker 4: Be specific about who you care about. I think we're
Speaker 4: in a boundaries era.
Speaker 5: That's it. That's it right there.
Speaker 4: You could still have a massive heart, just put a
Speaker 4: fence side our boundaries.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 6: But mine was so open for so many years for
Speaker 6: so many people, and it shouldn't be helped for so
Speaker 6: many people because you know the saying some people want
Speaker 6: more for you, not and some people want more from you,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm so, it's just like to be
Speaker 6: able to differentiate who I have a big heart with.
Speaker 6: I would like to change that about myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. What would you consider to be
Speaker 3: your greatest achievement?
Speaker 6: I raised four, well five, I raised five children to adulthood.
Speaker 6: They get you know, A couple of them got college
Speaker 6: degrees and they're adults and they're doing their own thing.
Speaker 6: That's I feel like that's Na's time for me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: The kids, Yeah, young, this is twenty two, and I
Speaker 6: feel like that's now I could be an uncle, or
Speaker 6: I could be you know what I'm saying. You could
Speaker 6: drop the kids off and let me watch them for
Speaker 6: four five six hours, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's a little different now, but I feel
Speaker 6: like like, because I mean, when you think about it, me,
Speaker 6: I was a parent at a young age, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So to see them.
Speaker 6: Grown now, it's like that's all I worked for for
Speaker 6: the last twenty some years was to get them grown.
Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying, So I've accomplished that.
Speaker 6: I've done my job. Now it's time for me to
Speaker 6: do me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and also, like just parenting is white knuckle
Speaker 4: terror all the time. Yes, And being able to kind
Speaker 4: of like take your hands off the wheel is, Oh,
Speaker 4: that's a huge accomplishment.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I don't have to go to a PTA meeting.
Speaker 5: I don't have to.
Speaker 6: I don't have to deal with little Jimmy who picking
Speaker 6: on him and he took his ball, and man, I
Speaker 6: don't have to deal with none of that no more.
Speaker 6: I'm good for grand baby. Just bring me a grand baby.
Speaker 6: I can spoil and you can still go to the
Speaker 6: club if you want to.
Speaker 4: Grandpa Antoine is a phase I can't wait to experience.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we're ready for it.
Speaker 6: My niece is having a baby, so everybody shut about
Speaker 6: her having a baby.
Speaker 5: So I'm uncle daddy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm too sweet, Uncle daddy.
Speaker 5: My kids.
Speaker 6: I wrote, like, we'll give you a grandchild when we're
Speaker 6: like forty. And I'm like, but you want to hear
Speaker 6: something funny. I told about when my niece announced that
Speaker 6: she was pregnant. Everybody in the house was crying and
Speaker 6: they were so happy, and and I said, you know what,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna break some down for you. I said, Taylor,
Speaker 6: you should be so happy that everybody is so happy.
Speaker 5: I said, because if this was the eighties, when you
Speaker 5: came home and said you were pregnant, it was melancholy
Speaker 5: and it was like your life and it was like
Speaker 5: your sister done got pregnant. It was just like it
Speaker 5: was so sad.
Speaker 4: It is crazy how much has changed, you know. Like
Speaker 4: even when I had Gus and I wasn't married, I
Speaker 4: was the first one of my friends to have a
Speaker 4: baby and I was unmarried and it was scandal. What
Speaker 4: are you going to do? And it's like, really, oh
Speaker 4: my god, Yeah dude, there was time.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, different time.
Speaker 4: Love it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Antoine, if you this sounds morbid, but then I
Speaker 2: think it gets fun. You were to die and come back,
Speaker 2: could be as a person or a thing. What would
Speaker 2: you want to come back as?
Speaker 5: Damn next life. That's a good question right there, because
Speaker 5: I don't want to be nobody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be anything other than what you've
Speaker 3: been trying to be lately.
Speaker 5: Oh oh, that's a good question. I remember when I
Speaker 5: was younger. I used to be like, I want to
Speaker 5: come back as a dog, you know, because they get treated. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like, this depends on whose dog right now?
Speaker 5: They got a bunch of laws. I would want to
Speaker 5: be one of Sophia's dogs. Yeah, you dog. I'm spoiled,
Speaker 5: I'm chilling, sleep in the bed and.
Speaker 2: Everything life so good.
Speaker 5: I want to be one of Sophia's dogs. I'm straight. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's it. That's my answer.
Speaker 4: Done. All right. So the next question is do you
Speaker 4: have just like a place or thing in your life
Speaker 4: that just comes so easy to you that you know
Speaker 4: it's where you belong. A place or just like a
Speaker 4: talent or a hobby or something that you do. Like,
Speaker 4: what is the thing in this life that makes you
Speaker 4: feel that it's where you belong because it comes naturally
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 6: Basketball for me, because it's like a It's an escape
Speaker 6: for me because like I could be going through stuff
Speaker 6: and then I hit the gym and I play for
Speaker 6: two hours and I'm not worried about no bills.
Speaker 5: I'm not worried about this. I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just it's a different space for me to
Speaker 6: be in that world and in that world. And like
Speaker 6: now it's even even gotten better because I never smoke
Speaker 6: weed until I was forty eight.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm forty eight now, but when I was forty seven,
Speaker 6: and that's when I had that the doctor talk, it
Speaker 6: was either weed or all these pills. And I was like, well,
Speaker 6: I never smoke weed in my life, so I guess
Speaker 6: I got to try it. You know, kids had to
Speaker 6: teach me how to smoke all day. But I promise
Speaker 6: you if I if I hit my little prescription real.
Speaker 5: Quick and go play ball. It's such an escape.
Speaker 6: It's like crazy and now, which I would have been
Speaker 6: smoking thirty years ago.
Speaker 4: Kids listening to the podcast, you're fine. But when you
Speaker 4: hit forty eight and you can do whatever the hell
Speaker 4: you want.
Speaker 5: Anti anxiety and yeah, it's a stress reliever. And those
Speaker 5: days where you go, I don't know what I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do and you smoke and you just be like, hmmm,
Speaker 5: naked and afraid is on.
Speaker 4: Obsessed?
Speaker 5: I love naked in different.
Speaker 4: Perfect Answerina, where would you most like to live?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm most like to live Well, I'm in each Ville.
Speaker 6: Now I want to move back to Rancho.
Speaker 3: In the whole world, that's your spot.
Speaker 5: I love Rancho. It's just it's it's the safest city
Speaker 5: in the country. They've been rated the safest city for
Speaker 5: so long. It's kind of like the Beverly Hills of
Speaker 5: the Inland Empire. It's really peaceful, and it's really beautiful,
Speaker 5: and it's so much to do and there's so much
Speaker 5: stuff going on to where it's like you can still
Speaker 5: be at home and be peaceful, but if you want
Speaker 5: to turn up a little bit, you could go right
Speaker 5: down the street, and then you can come right home
Speaker 5: and it's kind of like a balance like over there
Speaker 5: and where I'm at now it's like that too, but
Speaker 5: it's I don't know. I just like the two ten
Speaker 5: and the scenery in Rancho a little bit better than Eastvielle.
Speaker 4: You are a California boy, now, no turning back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I ain't moving back to Chicago. It's too cold.
Speaker 6: It's too cold. It's like excruciating cold, and it's cold
Speaker 6: ten months out of the year and it's too hot
Speaker 6: the other two months, so you don't really have no medium.
Speaker 6: And then other than that it's raining. So you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But I love the people, I just
Speaker 6: hate the weather.
Speaker 4: They can visit you in Rancho.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, Come on, Auntie, pull up. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, sir, this is our final question. What is your
Speaker 2: most treasured possession?
Speaker 5: My most treasured possession? Mm hmm. Well, I don't really
Speaker 5: have one. I don't really have one.
Speaker 6: I don't think we you know, because I think I
Speaker 6: think for us everything is so like temporary, Like you know,
Speaker 6: like if you have a card, it's temporary because a
Speaker 6: couple of years you're gonna want the new one or
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying that because right now I
Speaker 6: want to Testla. I love the Teslas, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But it's like I ain't got no testing.
Speaker 6: I rented a test So I think for us everything
Speaker 6: is is temporary. But I think the my treasure possession
Speaker 6: would be my talent, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 6: that's one thing they can't never take. They can't never
Speaker 6: take the talent away from you. You know, they could
Speaker 6: tell you don't have you don't have three million followers.
Speaker 6: I'm not as talented as the person who got three
Speaker 6: million followers.
Speaker 5: They're celebrity.
Speaker 6: I'm a star, yes, celebrity more a lot of people
Speaker 6: know you, but what is your talent?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean just just keep it real. Like a star
Speaker 6: is some somebody that has a talent. Say like I
Speaker 6: could say and no Shade. I could say Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows Kim Kardashian, but what's her talent?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. So yeah, but if I
Speaker 5: say Joe Rule, you know what his talent need is?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, baby girl, put it
Speaker 4: on me come on.
Speaker 5: I say that, and you know the talent, You're gonna.
Speaker 4: Have him stuck in my head all day now. I'm
Speaker 4: just in my head already.
Speaker 2: Girl, put it on.
Speaker 4: We would it be with lu We're back at TRL
Speaker 4: on one. Listen. You really are a star and we
Speaker 4: feel really lucky that we get to watch episodes of
Speaker 4: the show back as just like fans and see your
Speaker 4: talent because you can take something that's so clunky written
Speaker 4: on a piece of paper and make it real and
Speaker 4: make it believable and approachable and endear it. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that is a really big talent and it's amazing. We
Speaker 4: love you.
Speaker 6: So if you see something on some I think I
Speaker 6: liked it. Somebody had posted something. I think it was
Speaker 6: from the show. It was some episode you were watching
Speaker 6: the summing. You was like, I killed this episode. I
Speaker 6: think I put it up in the comments. I was like, oh, thanks,
Speaker 6: it's good looking.
Speaker 4: Out Yeah truly.
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: The annoying thing about this strike is that we can't
Speaker 2: shower you with specific compliments because we're not technically allowed
Speaker 2: to talk to you about episodes. But in this season
Speaker 2: and there that we're not discussing. There's a monologue and
Speaker 2: I won't say who you deliver it to. That is
Speaker 2: so freaking good. Like, we we had a full i
Speaker 2: mean minutes and minutes of our review where we were
Speaker 2: just talking about what you did in that in that
Speaker 2: unnamed scene on said unnamed.
Speaker 4: Don't even know what show you're talking about right now.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what.
Speaker 2: You're talking about. It was just like a job that
Speaker 2: you did that was really impressive. But like truly, we
Speaker 2: were we just lost our minds because it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you watch somebody do something so well that it
Speaker 2: it takes your your emotional brain in one direction and
Speaker 2: then your work brain in the other. And we were like,
Speaker 2: we know what that was on the page, and like
Speaker 2: it was just words. Look what he did with it.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful.
Speaker 5: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: And when we're allowed to talk about the episode after
Speaker 2: this strike is over, we'll make you do a little
Speaker 2: rewind with us and we'll go back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when this strike is over, what's your next dream job, Antoine?
Speaker 5: My next dream job is a reboot?
Speaker 3: Oh hope, you're making plans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 2: Take us all back to work, twin. We'll follow you.
Speaker 5: I'm manifesting right now, man, Okay, he.
Speaker 4: Said what he said. All right, Angel, we love you
Speaker 4: so so much. Thank you for going deep with us today.
Speaker 5: I love you Gray. It is I don't think I have.
Speaker 4: A choice, babe. Decision has been made.
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It gives you like, it gives your face so much,
Speaker 6: like different colors and like shades like and then when
Speaker 6: you early, when you had it curly.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is why we keep Antoine around
Speaker 4: because he just showers our egos. Yeah, you're you flirt.
Speaker 2: I know exactly what video you're talking about, because we
Speaker 2: got on the podcast and I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, that thing you just posted. Your
Speaker 2: hair looks amazing.
Speaker 4: Getting old, getting old together, Guys, we're doing.
Speaker 2: For you is what we're is what we're saying here.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks Gang. All right, Well go give Tiff big
Speaker 4: kisses from us. Tell the kids we.
Speaker 5: Said, Hi, I love you, I love you, love you.
Speaker 3: Love you too. Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 5: Okay, I love him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I don't think people really get to see beyond
Speaker 4: the curtain. You know. It's like Wizard of Oz. You
Speaker 4: see what's being presented, and not very many people get
Speaker 4: to see like Oz the Great and powerful and so
Speaker 4: Antoine's played like a lot of funny characters, and he's
Speaker 4: played a lot of tough guys. But to see him
Speaker 4: the way that we get to see him as like
Speaker 4: this dad and this you know husband who really loves
Speaker 4: his wife so much. You know that's it's important to
Speaker 4: know the people behind the performances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah man. All right, well we'll have more of these
Speaker 4: for you guys as we move through this dRIT game plan.
Speaker 3: Thanks for being Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody,
Speaker 3: See you next time.
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