1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Show final our Thursday edition. Appreciate all of you hanging 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: out with us. Encourage you to go give us five stars. 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Let's get over ten thousand reviews. Dub is checking them out. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Hundreds of you have come in so far this week. 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: It runs a couple of days behind, so suddenly today 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: we had hundreds more reviews. Lots of you sharing your 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: five star reviews, making Dub laugh. He said, very impressive 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: response from you guys so far. You can go sign 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: up iTunes, search out my name Clay Travis, search out 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Boom. You can help us set another record 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: for the podcast. I think we were over sixteen million 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: in July, going to be well over that number in August, 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and that makes us one of the ten most downloaded 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: news shows. I know a lot of you are listening 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: on the regular radios, and we love all of our 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: affiliates all over the country and all of you who 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: are listening there too. But people listen to audio variety 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: of different ways. One of the cool things is we 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: found most people who listen on podcasts do not listen 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: on regular radio. So a rising tide is lifting all boats. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Our arguments are getting out there. I'm actually a little 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: bit stunned. We're scheduled to be joined here soon by 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy to break down this affidavit. He of course 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: is a fantastic legal analyst, joined us many times on 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: the show before, but obviously moving parts on these stories. 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: We'll see exactly when he joins us, and he doesn't 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: join us to day, we'll get him on tomorrow to 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: discuss this affidavit. My world's a little bit rocked by 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton failing the DC Bar exam and then also 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: losing to Kim Kardashian head to head in a test 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: of legal knowledge, which is which is very funny. But 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I've never studied law day in my life play and 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: I still think I could beat Kim Kardashian. I want 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: to know what the questions were and how detail they were, 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: because I don't think it was you know, what is 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the First Amendment protect? I know, if it's procedural stuff 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: and it gets into I know, that's a whole different 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: diitty gritty I know say that they forget a lot 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: of the bar stuff. Once they've been in practice for 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: a few years and they're doing a whole other thing, 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: So your specific knowledge of fades in a hurry. My 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: wife is finishing her law degree right now, and she'll 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: be taking the bar in July of next year, so 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: she's going to be by far the Travis expert on 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: legal related issues, even though I've had a law degree 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: for almost twenty years now. So you just have a 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: great deal of knowledge. If you're not particularly focused in 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: that area of the law, it can fade in a 51 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: real hurry. And that kind of brings us into this 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: affidavit talk in general. Buck, the more details that are 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: coming out, and the Department of Justice says, oh, there's 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: no way that you can be trusted, and by you, 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean the larger American public to see the affidavit 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: that we applied for to get the warrants so that 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: we could make sure that Trump is not a huge felon. 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Yet then they then go leak at all to the 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Washington Post, and they go leak it all to the 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: New York Times. And the more I read for what 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: these leaks are reporting, the more outrageous it appears to me, 62 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Buck that Merrick Garland made the decision to sign off 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: on this raid in the first place, because there is 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: no justification here for the significance of what rating a 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: former president represents in our larger sort of precedent and 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: procedure of justice. Never happened before to do that over 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: effectively National Archives being upset angry librarian. The angry librarian 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: of the Archives. We used to have a thing in 69 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: the CIA, when it was time to put somebody out 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: to pasture, we'd say, we're sending them to the archives. 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: That many were taken off important stuff and given not 72 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: important stuff. You know, send that person to the archives. 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I have a feeling the federal government national Archives is 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: not where you're let's just say, the most motivated and 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: most nationally most national security conscious folks necessarily go in 76 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the entire federal government. We can probably have archives listeners, 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: but if you told me, I know, I'm gonna get 78 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: angry emails. Now, where do you think guys work twenty 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: hours a day in the federal government, the National Archives 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: would not be at the top of my list. It answered, 81 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: by the way, is basically nowhere. I will say something 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: that I had to get used to when I left 83 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: government work and joined the private sector. Was at Langley 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: every day in Northern Virginia. Langley CIA Headquarters. It's actually 85 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: it's funny because people always refer to it as that, 86 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: and it's a it's an estate, the original Langley estate. 87 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: I think it's actually tied to the family of Robert E. Lee. 88 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: To give you a sense of um that the Langley estate, 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: the Lee family. There was some questions, Oh, I don't 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: know and that, and that's why people refer to it 91 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: as Langley. There's also Langley High School there in Northern Virginia. 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Point is at five pm every day, it was like 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: a fire drill. I heard this. I've never had a job. 94 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I had friends who went to the federal government and 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: they said, the minute the clock hit five, you would 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: get stampeded on the stairs, headed out of the bills 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: people because there's so much Langley is so big, a 98 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: CI headquarters is so big that there are multiple lots 99 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: of parking lots. It's a bit like going to an 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: SEC football game play, except way more boring and slightly 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: less alcohol. So did that surprise you that so many 102 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: people the minute that it got to what time did 103 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: you have to be there? Like? What time would you 104 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: typically like the average employee. Well, it's very There's a 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: lot of variability about this too, because so I worked 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: in the Iraq office during the war, so we were 107 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: expected to be in jacket and tie and there as 108 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: long as it takes. I mean I did get phone 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: calls at five o'clock in the morning like stuff like 110 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: that would where I had to come into the office 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: to deal with something that would happen. But for a 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: lot of folks, you know, it was it was out 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: it it was nine to five, and it was loose 114 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: on nine and it was loose on five. No, they're 115 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: very see that's the thing though, they're actually very because 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's a CI. They know exactly 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: where you are. This is true. I know of a 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: lot of federal government as you know, when you come 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: in and when you leave, they know exactly when you 120 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: badge in. They know exactly when you leave. In the NYPD, 121 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: when I was working in the Intelligence Division again, I 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: spent about eighteen months there because I was like where 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: you CI Intel Division. I was a CI officer who 124 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: was on leave so that I could work at the 125 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: NYPD Intelligence Division. There was sort of a bureaucratic way 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: of loaning me the to the NYPD so I could 127 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: be in New York and spend time with the fam. 128 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: And there was a book I call it the Harry 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Potter Ledger, this big book that you had to sign 130 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: into with a pen when you arrive to the minute, 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: and if you were late for your tour play, you 132 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: actually had to fill out paperwork, additional paperwork, and I 133 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: mean late, like two minutes. You had to fill out 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: this thing about why you were late. So it was 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: you gotta be there when you say, and you got 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: to stay till your time and it has to be 137 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: accurate to I think within fifteen minutes or you can 138 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: start getting doc pay. But yeah, five o'clock. It was 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: like a sprint. Well, Andy McCarthy is evidently going to 140 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: join us tomorrow now because he had a scheduling issue. 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: But what we were going to talk about him is 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: what certainly you and I can talk about, Buck, which 143 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: is this affidavit. The government has now submitted their request 144 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: for redaction to the judge. The judge has already let 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: it be known that he's going to release some of 146 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: the affidavit. Do you believe Buck, based on your experience 147 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: in national intelligence and the CIA and everything else that 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: I think. So I'll tell you what I think, and 149 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: then I want your expert again, Sir, I think the 150 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: government is basically going to redact the whole affidavit, and 151 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: I think there will be like a few words every 152 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: now and then. I've seen these documents before that really 153 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: give you nothing about what they've actually requested. That would 154 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: be what I think they're going to submit. Would you 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: expect that the government will redact a massive amount of 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: a request the redaction of a massive amount of this affidavit? 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: So yes, But I would add a twist to this 158 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: because the government, and remember they're very aware of the 159 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: incredibly heightened politics of this moment. What they did is unprecedented, 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: and they promise that there'd be a big bam, you know, 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: we'd find out something. Oh my gosh, remember that they 162 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: leaked a lot of leaks. By the way, is we 163 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: can't be trusted. But the New Washington Post, the New 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: York Times, sir, sure seem to know a lot about this. 165 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: What they're going to do is I think leave in 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: descriptor if you will, leave in assertions and delete data 167 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: so it will say we have we have we have 168 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy. I guess was so brilliant team I was. No, 169 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Andy. We're so glad you could join us. 170 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna to keep you through for another segment, mister 171 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy from National Review. We're talking document redaction affid 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: David's take it away, sir, you know a couple of things. 173 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: One is, it occurred to me even though I thought 174 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: this was just gonna be a big blackout thing since 175 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: they've been having this argument about special Master, like Trump 176 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: wants a special Master to supervise the DJ sifting through 177 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: the privilege stuff, and DJ doesn't want that because they 178 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: proposed procedures that they said, you know, protected those interests. 179 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: I imagine they could That's the kind of stuff that 180 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: they could reveal without it wouldn't tell us just what 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: we want to know, which is the probable cause and 182 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: why did they think they needed a laurant, But you know, 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I could imagine they could reveal stuff like that without 184 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: blowing anything in the investigation, like without identifying witnesses and 185 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: the like. And the other thing I would just say 186 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: quickly is that I think we already know what the 187 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: probable causes here. I mean, you know from the time 188 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: this happened a couple of weeks ago till now, there's 189 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: been not only a lot of reporting. We got that 190 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: letter from the National Archives dated May tenth earlier this week, 191 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: which lays out a lot of what was going on 192 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: up till that point, and we already know from a 193 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of reporting a lot of what happened afterwards. So 194 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: I just you know, I had to do a timeline 195 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: for my own purposes this morning, and it was amazing 196 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: to me how much we know that went on from 197 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: the times Trump left office until they did until they 198 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: did the search, and I'd be surprised. Well, looking at that, 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: you could see why they thought they had probable cause. 200 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't see anything about obstruction in there, but looking 201 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: at that, you could see why they must that thought 202 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: they had probable cause on you know, classified information and 203 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: document retention. Yeah, Andy, you can understand why they might 204 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: have thought they had cause. But this is still the 205 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: president of the United States, former president of the United States, 206 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and when you are signing off on this, as Merrick Garland, 207 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: you are crossing the rubicon. This has never happened before. 208 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: It is truly unprecedented. Based on what the New York 209 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Times and The Washington Post have reported, and there have 210 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: been fairly detailed aspects of this. I gotta be honest 211 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: with you, Andy, I am stunned beyond belief that Merritt 212 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: Garland would have signed off on this warrant and undertaken 213 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: this sort of legal battle based on what's out there 214 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: so far. Are you also stunned or does it make 215 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: sense to you? I'm a lot less stunned than I 216 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: was in the earliest days of this. And let me 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: explain why. They find out in early twenty twenty two 218 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: that there's you know, the top top secret stuff is 219 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: they're including special Access program stuff and you know, sensitive, 220 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: compartmentalized it the very top secret stuff, right, and they 221 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: have this back and forth about getting it back. The 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Justice Department refers it to the I'm sorry, the Archives 223 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: referred to the FBI. This will eventually results in a 224 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: meeting at Mara Lago in June, where the meeting takes 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: place because they've done a grand jury the Pino. So 226 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: now this isn't just like a friendly conversation anymore. Right, 227 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: They're now starting to use criminal law government evidence collection methods. 228 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: And on June third, they have this meeting, they give 229 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: them a subpoena, and they not only give them more 230 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: classified documents, which means they hadn't obviously turned over Rober 231 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: classified documents at this point, so to the extent the 232 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: FBI suspected that they had. That was kind of confirmation 233 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: that they hadn't. But they also make them give them 234 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: a signed document from the lawyers that says we have 235 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: searched the place and there is no more classified information. 236 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: So after that they start to interview people at Mara 237 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: Lago and on Trump's staff, and one of the things 238 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: they do on June twenty second is issue them a 239 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: second grand jury subpoena asking for the surveillance video, the 240 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: the security cameras, which apparently go back sixty days at 241 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: some parts of Mara Lago. And now we have to 242 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: refer to reporting rather than you know what the government 243 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: is saying. So Andy, let me cut you. Let me 244 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: cut you off here, ye, can you come back for 245 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: answer a couple more questions for us. Okay, here's the 246 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: question I want that we're going to lead with when 247 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: we come back. Does Andy McCarthy think they're going to 248 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: be criminal charges brought against Donald Trump based on what 249 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: he has seen so far in this case. 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We got Andy McCarthy 276 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: from National Review, and Andy, I just want to get 277 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: right to it. It's essentially the where is this all going? Question? 278 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: With the Mara Lago raid. Clay just asked you before 279 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: the break. Are we heading toward criminal charges of some 280 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: kind against former President Trump? And where is this going? 281 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to charge Trump with document 282 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: retention offenses. One of the reasons I say that is 283 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: ordinarily in a criminal investigation, when you're ready to do 284 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: search warrants, you do that at the end, and usually 285 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: the searches and the arrests have done the same day, 286 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: because if you have probable quotes for a search, you 287 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: have probable quotes for an arrest. My sense is that 288 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: they want the documents back. I'm not so sure that 289 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: they want to get into the whole morass, like the 290 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: first prosecution in history against a former president over document 291 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: retention offenses. Now the classified information stuff is serious. It's 292 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: more serious than I would have thought it was at 293 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the beginning, and we don't know what the obstruction evidence is, 294 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: which depending on what their evidence of that is. They 295 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: say in the warrant that they have obstruction evidence, we 296 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, so I'd like to know what that is. 297 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: But I've always thought that they're trying to make a 298 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: January sixth case on them, because if they're going to 299 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: do something as drastic as actually indict a former president, 300 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: they want to make sure that it's over something that's very, 301 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: very serious. And I think Garland knows that. So my 302 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: sense is that part of the reason that they're fighting 303 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: about disclosing the affidavit is they were hoping to get 304 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: the documents back and then this whole thing kind of 305 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: goes away unless they can make a January sixth case. 306 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: But I could be wrong. So how much politics do 307 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: you think goes into making a decision like this? And 308 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: the reason why Andy I'm asking is to me, this 309 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: has made Donald Trump politically stronger and part of being 310 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: a prosecutor is understanding what the likelihood is of getting 311 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: convictions not getting convictions. As you well know, discretion sometimes 312 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: can be the better part of valor. Wouldn't you have 313 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: to consider the politics almost more than you would the 314 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: law here? Yeah, I don't see how you could avoid 315 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: a clay for a variety of reasons. Like it's always 316 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: seemed to be stupid for Biden to act like, oh, 317 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with this, when you know, 318 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: in point of fact, like in order for the FBI 319 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: to get access to Trump's records, Biden had to approve 320 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: that under the Presidential Records Act. If Trump tried to 321 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: prevent them from seeing it by asserting executive privilege, Biden 322 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: had to weigh in on that. So it wasn't like, 323 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: you know, he's reaching out. He's required by law to 324 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: be involved in this. And what they're saying is the 325 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: critical thing here is the national security information. National security 326 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: is the president's most important job. So yes, it's all 327 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: tinged with politics, but you know, sometimes that's that's the job, 328 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, And if they don't prosecute them, though, Andy, 329 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: we only got about a minute, I'm just wondering, doesn't 330 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: it look like it was really heavy handed to send 331 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: in the FBI that to get back the docks, or 332 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: because they really want you know better than I do. 333 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: It really depends on how serious those that classified information is. 334 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they could have had really bad stuff down 335 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: there that they shouldn't have had and they needed that back. 336 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: It's a good point, Andy. I also feel like, why 337 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: would Trump or anyone who works for Trump want that stuff? 338 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Like there's there's no value to such stuff for them 339 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: to have, so for people to think about, why would 340 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: it be important for the Archives to have it? Thank 341 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: you for the time, Andy McCarthy. We come back important 342 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: correction on Kim Kardashi and we'd have to say this, Buck, Oh, 343 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: welcome back. In appreciate everybody hanging out with us. We'll 344 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: give you the Kim Kardashi correction at the end of 345 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: the show. I can't believe we have to issue a 346 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian correction. We're joined now by Eli Crane, former 347 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: Navy seal, small business owner, husband dad and native Arizona Eli. 348 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: The week after nine eleven, you left school to join 349 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: the Navy. Five wartime deployments three two Iraq as a 350 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: sniper with Seal Team three. Tell me how this all 351 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: came to be a post nine eleven and I mean, 352 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: I think another guy in Arizona did basically the same thing, 353 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: Pat Tillman, who a lot of people know that story. 354 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: How did you make the decision to leave the University 355 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: of Arizona, What has your life been like since? And 356 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: what district are you running for so everybody listening to 357 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: us in Arizona can make sure they vote for you. Hey, 358 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on, Buck, I appreciate it. So 359 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm running in Congressional District two against the country's most 360 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: vulnerable Democrat, Tom o'hallerin. You know, like thousands of Americans, 361 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: the week after eleven, I actually decided to drop out 362 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: of school. And I was just I just really believed 363 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: that it was my time to step up for this country. 364 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: I know many men and women in generations before me 365 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: did the same thing for this country to protect some 366 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: of the freedoms and prosperities that we have here. And 367 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: I knew that that was a pivotal moment in our history, 368 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: and I knew the next generation needed to step up. 369 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: And I realized, Buck, that I could go back to 370 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: school at any time, So I wanted to do that. 371 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: I did that. Unfortunately for me, I didn't make it 372 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: through seal training my first time. I had to go 373 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: back and do it a second time. But I'm grateful 374 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: just that I got a chance to serve my country 375 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: and serve with some of the finest men on the planet. 376 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: Hey like the district you're running in. I mean, obviously 377 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: you're spending a lot of time talking to the people 378 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: your constituents and figuring out what is top of mind 379 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: for them. And Clay and I've been discussing this. It 380 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: looks like right now the polls aren't quite as strong 381 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: nation wide for Republicans and some of these races as 382 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: we'd like to see them. The red wave is feeling 383 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: more like it could be, at least some people think 384 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: a red ripple. I'm actually still pretty confident. What are 385 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: people telling you, I mean, what are the top of 386 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: mind the issues for the voters that you're speaking to 387 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: an Arizona's second Congressional Well, I think the economy and 388 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: immigration are two of the big the big ones here. 389 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: People also in this district and in Arizona generally, are 390 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: really upset and fired up about our elections as well. 391 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: They don't feel like our elections are tight or as 392 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: transparent as the mainstream media would have us believe, you know. 393 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: So those are those are a couple of really big 394 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: things right there that you know, Arizonans, especially in this district, 395 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: want to see turned around. And the worst part about 396 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: it is because I think we can all agree that, 397 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to the border and also 398 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: the economy, you know, it's it's our own it's our 399 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: own fault, it's our own doing. And so that's I 400 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: think what robs people full, you know, the wrong way 401 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: so hard is that they're trying to struggle, you know, 402 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: just to make ends meet, make sure their kids can 403 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: go to school, make sure that they have gas in 404 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: the tank, and they can afford groceries. Meanwhile, this administration 405 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: continues to promote, promote bills and legislation and uncontrolled spending 406 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: that continues to put us into a deeper and deeper hole. 407 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: We're talking to a guy who I hope all of 408 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: the voters out there are going to support Eli Crane. Eli. Again, 409 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to support you. But you mentioned something 410 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: that I wanted to unpack. You said you had to 411 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: try twice as a Navy Seal This is grueling, This 412 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: is unbelievably difficult. You made it as a second time. 413 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: What happened the first time that you tapped out? And 414 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: how tough was this? I know our audience loves the 415 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: dedication Navy Seals bring to bear. What was that training 416 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: like for you? And why did you make it a 417 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: second time after not making it the first? You know, well, 418 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: it was It was brutal, and it's designed to be 419 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that way and for good reason. And I think that's 420 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: why the seal teams produced some of the best warriors 421 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: on the planet. But for me, honestly, the first time 422 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: I showed up Buck, I you know, I wasn't I 423 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: wasn't as prepared as I could have been. You know, 424 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't as mature as I could have been. You know, 425 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: I was more focused on myself and you know, staying 426 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: inside my comfort zone. And I wasn't as quick to 427 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: get out of my comfort zone to help one of 428 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: my brothers, you know, when they were in you know, 429 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: when they were carrying more weight or when they needed help. 430 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: And that's something that you know, the seal instructors, they'll 431 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: smell on you really quickly. Are you more are you 432 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: more focused on your own comfort or will you get 433 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: outside your comfort zone to you know, help one of 434 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: your brothers and a time and need and they have 435 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways to expose that. And I 436 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: just wasn't ready. I wasn't mature enough. And I actually 437 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: made it through Hell Week my first my first attempt 438 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: and seal training. But he told me, young man, you're 439 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: not ready, and we suggest that you come back and 440 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: in a year. It took me two and a half 441 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: years to come back. But I'm grateful Buck, that they 442 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: held the standards where they were. I'm grateful that I 443 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: learned a tough lesson in life, and I'm grateful that, 444 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, I actually came back and made it through. 445 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: We're talking to Eli Crane. He's running for Congress in Arizona. 446 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: It's Buck, Eli, and I'm just wondering what you think 447 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: about the three billion. I think it was yesterday that 448 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: they just decided was going to additional three billion going 449 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: to go to Ukraine. I mean, you know the face 450 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: of warfare, you know what it's like to be outside 451 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: the wire and in a conflict zone. What do you 452 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: think is going on over there? Well, you know, guys, 453 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: when I look at, you know, this issue, like I 454 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: look at every issue. I'm an America First candidate, So 455 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I try and put that America First lens between everything 456 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: I looked at. And when I look at the war 457 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: in Ukraine and I look at all the money that 458 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: we continue to send over, I look and I see 459 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: the fact that we still don't have a southern border. 460 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: We have people pouring over that border every single day. 461 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: We've got over thirty trillion dollars in debt. People are 462 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: really struggling just to make ends meet. And as an 463 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: America First candidate, it's not that I don't have any 464 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: sympathy or empathy for Ukrainians or anybody else for that matter, 465 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: or want to see unchecked Russian aggression. It's just that 466 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I have to ask myself, are we putting Americans first? 467 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: And I don't believe that we are. And so that's 468 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: something when I continue to see us send more money 469 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: that we really we don't even have. We have to 470 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: print this money because we already or thirty I think 471 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: thirty three trillion dollars in debt. You know, it really 472 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: bothers me because we continue to spend money that we 473 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: don't have on you know, protecting somebody else's sovereignty and border. Meanwhile, 474 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: we have no sovereignty, no border down south, and that's 475 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: paying heavy dividends to communities and people all over this country. 476 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: When you see Fenton all pouring through that southern border, 477 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: when you see sex trafficking pouring through that southern border, 478 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 1: when you see MS thirteen gang members coming through that border, 479 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's why we need America 480 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: First candidates now more than we ever have, just because 481 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: of this country being on fire like it is. ELI working, 482 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: folks go to learn more about your campaign and help out. 483 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, I appreciate it. People can go to 484 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: ELI for Arizona dot com if they want to they 485 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: want to help us out. Like I said, we're running 486 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: against the most vulnerable democrat in the country and so 487 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: this is definitely a very winnable race. Well, Eli, thank 488 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: you for your service, sir, and we will have you 489 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: back when you are a congressman. Crane looking forward to it. 490 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. If your household bills are rising faster 491 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: than your household income, you're not alone. It's one of 492 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: the ugly side effects of inflation. If you're a homeowner, 493 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: the solution may be right in front of you. With 494 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: home values being up over fifteen percent over the last year, 495 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: that means there's more equity in your home, and you 496 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: may want to tap into that increased equity to settle 497 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: those out of control household expensive I just did a 498 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: rEFInd my friend, so it's a great time still even 499 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: with interest rates on the rise, to consolidate debt at 500 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: a competitive rate. Our friends in American Financing can help 501 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: you take care of it. 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This payroll tax refund is 532 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: only available for a limited amount of time, So don't 533 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: miss out. Go to get refunds dot com. That's get 534 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: refunds dot Com. No risk, high reward. Clay, we have 535 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: a correction to make. My friend, I was I you know, 536 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm not throwing the team here under the bus. I 537 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: believe somebody may have told me, because I am not 538 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: up on Kardashian lore. I don't know the latest in 539 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: Kardashian world, not naming Nay. Somebody may have said Kim 540 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: passed the bar, Kim Kardashian, and I I just went 541 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: with it, all right. I just no, one's under the 542 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: bus here, maybe somebody, maybe nobody, We don't know. I 543 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: just read with it. It turns out, Clay, you you 544 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: who have been through this process, there's a little bit 545 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: of an asterisk next to the she passed the bar. Yes. 546 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not the kind of person to cast blame 547 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: or throw anybody under the bus. But if I were 548 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: going to be that kind of person, I would definitely 549 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: throw producer Ali under the bus on this one. Again, 550 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: not the kind and not the kind of person to 551 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: do that. Not I would never draw attention to anybody 552 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: if it were. If I were going to do that, 553 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: it will be alley, but I'm not the kind of 554 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: person who's gonna do that. So the headline, for those 555 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: of you out there who missed it, Hillary Clinton versus 556 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian Legal discussion. And I did know that Kim 557 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Kardashian is trying to become a lawyer, and you were 558 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: told that she had passed the bar. The headline is 559 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: that she has passed the baby bar exam. So I 560 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: and I clicked on this because I'm honestly not familiar 561 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: with exactly the route that she is trying to take 562 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to become a lawyer. But evidently, in California, and this 563 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: is quoting from Kim Kardashian, you have to take two 564 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: bar exams. She is taking this and she has to 565 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: pass the baby bar and then the real bar. She 566 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: has passed the baby bar, so she is at best 567 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: halfway towards because the difficulty level clay between baby bar 568 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: and big boy bar. What I was told the baby 569 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: bar is like super easy and you take it while 570 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: you're in the laws, because Kim failed it three times. Okay, 571 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: but I think her route is different. Maybe I'm not 572 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: an expert in the Kim Kardashian route to being a lawyer. 573 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been married long enough that I gotta ask, 574 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: have you ever been forced to watch some of the 575 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Kardashian reality TV shows? You know, Laura, my wife is 576 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: obsessed with the Real Housewive shows. Well, I think I think, 577 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: like married women across the cut, it's very popular. I 578 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: have watched a lot of the Real Housewive shows over 579 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the last decade or so, but she's never been a 580 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: big Kardashian person. Back when the Kardashian show started, like 581 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, it feels like it's been twenty years. 582 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: I may have watched some of those back in the day, 583 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: but right now, if I walk through my house and 584 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: there is a show on, it's like a ninety percent 585 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: chance it's a Real housewife. Isn't she a billionaire? Isn't 586 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: that Kim Kardashian? But I don't even think it's just 587 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. I think that her younger sisters are billionaires. 588 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: Remember this, They had this controversy over one of the 589 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: younger Kardashians, Kindall Jenner or whatever her name is. I 590 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: think she has her own plane, brand new plane, and 591 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 1: she had posted which private jet should we take? Because 592 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: there were allegations that they were taking super short flights 593 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: in their private jets to try to avoid LA traffic, 594 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: which is, if true, next level rich is when you're like, oh, 595 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I can make a two minute flight, or I can 596 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: sit in traffic for forty minutes. Let me just hop 597 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: on my jet. Now, Kobe just turn would have turned 598 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: thirty forty four. Kobe had the helicopters initially because he 599 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: lived in Orange County and would take the helicopter to 600 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: the Staples Center. That's about forty five minute helicopter ride. 601 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I think, right, isn't something thirty minute helicopter ride ipposted 602 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: a two hour drive in traffic? Yeah, right, But they 603 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: would land him right on top of the of a 604 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: local building next to Staples Center, and he'd go in 605 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and out pre and post game for those And so 606 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: I would think, if you're taking a flight of that distance, 607 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: you would ordinarily take a helicopter. But that's next level 608 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: rich to be able to avoid traffic by taking either 609 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: a helicopter or an airplane. But yeah, I think multiple 610 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: of the Kardashians are now billionaires. Yeah. My only time 611 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: in a private plane play private plane involved the Defense 612 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: Department and lots of guys carrying him for so, I'm 613 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: just saying I've never I've never had the fancy life 614 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: of the private plane unless people were getting geared up 615 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: and throwing on their tactical vest to a deploy. So 616 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: that is the a Pentagon play. I don't think that 617 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: actually counts. I guess that's actually a public plane, just 618 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: a different kind of public plane. I think Rush had 619 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: his own plane at some point. I would like to 620 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: have my own plane, because that is the one crazy 621 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: luxury of just being able to go wherever you want 622 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: with virtually no weight. That is pretty fantastic. So I 623 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: would like to at some point add that to the repertoire. 624 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Do not have it right now? Good? Good deal, good anyway, Ki, 625 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian still not a lawyer. Not a lawyer. Failed 626 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: the Baby bar three times. Hillary failed the DC bar 627 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: and ran away from it. It's not better known until 628 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: you told me that today, I had no idea that 629 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: Hillary had failed a bar. Exam, Oh, and anti Clinton 630 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: minutia is a special skill set of mine. She passed 631 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: the Arkansas bar, so she is a lawyer. But but 632 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: the DC bar, and you looked it up during commercial 633 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: break she was young because I was trying to give 634 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: her a pass. I was like, well, maybe she took 635 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: it ten or fifteen years after she actually graduated from 636 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: law school. She was still relatively young when she failed it. 637 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: It's worth remember worth, Remember I'm sorry, I can't speak 638 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: and we're just bad when you're in radio. Worth remembering 639 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: that we may in fact be ruled by it. It's everybody, 640 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: this is actually a possibility. I'm just saying. Joe Biden 641 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: seventy three out of seventy six in his Syracuse law class. 642 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: I believe it was back in the seven number one 643 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: in Syracuse. Don't want to cast a spur to seventy 644 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: six is seventy three out of seventy six. And Syracuse 645 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: Law school is not Harvard. That's all I was gonna say. 646 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, you're not talking about or Yale or Vanderbilt, 647 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: where I went. We're not talking about some of the 648 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: top elite law schools in the country. Syracuse at the 649 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: very bottom of the list. I've been a lot of 650 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: people in Syracuse don't want to claim Joe Biden anyway. 651 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: I honestly only get impressed by degrees these days when 652 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: it's in something that I know that would be really 653 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: hard to do. So if you have a PhD in 654 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: theoretical physics from from a place like mt you're probably 655 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: better than me at math, you know what I mean? 656 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Like that, no one but all this other stuff. Man, 657 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: these other schools, Humanity's degrees, nonsense, MBA's They just sit 658 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: around drinking the whole time. Eli, there's a lot of 659 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: truth to that. Elo Krane. Becoming a Navy seal, big 660 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: impressive accomplishment. I will give a little bit of praise here. 661 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: We were just ripping Joe Biden's intelligence. Obama was the 662 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: editor of the Harvard Law Review. For anybody who goes, 663 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you if you think because he was such 664 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: a good writer, Clay, I think that Obama is super smart. 665 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: You can agree. We gotta fight on our hands, buddy, 666 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: I think he is super went to Occidental for undergrad initially. Yeah, 667 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: but you don't fake your way into the Law Review editorship. 668 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of things. That is a hard 669 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: thing to do. If you're a lawyer. I think you 670 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: have to give respect. It's like being a Supreme Court clerk. 671 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: It's a hard level of achieve I'm gonna deep dive