WEBVTT - Unionize the ETs 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:07.440 Yeah, I know it's midnight in Porter Ranch, California, and 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:27.880 you're listening to Night Call. Welcome to Night Call, a 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.520 podcast to keep you company during those strange days in 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.360 lily Nights. My name is Emily Ashida. I am in 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.479 New York and with me on the other end of 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.519 the line in California, as always, we have Molly Lambert 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.320 and joining me Tess Lynch. I don't know why I 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.000 say California sometimes instead of Los Angeles. I feel like 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:53.440 California is like a state of mind, California, Like, yeah, 0:00:53.920 --> 0:01:00.160 California's state of mine. Whoops. Uh. Yeah. We are here 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.959 today in the middle of December, to continue our sort 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.000 of loose I feel like we've been kind of leap 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.000 frogging every other episode and going dipping back into the 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.480 eighties and weird comfort fair that kind of goes hand 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.160 in hand, I think with the holiday season, so not 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.920 necessarily Christmas movies, but movies that make us feel warm 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:27.840 and weird, just like Christmas warm. And that's another log 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:34.120 line for our pots. Yeah, and the warm and weird stuff. Well, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.960 we like to take on the cozy cannon, sure saying 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.720 I realized, like, but we can reinvestigate it. We can, 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:42.080 we can, we can challenge the cozy canon kind of 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.119 like our criticism, like the former Amy Nicholson podcast The Cannon, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:53.200 where they would you know, decide when. Yeah, we're going 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.520 to talk about three totems of the eighties, maybe more, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.840 maybe less, depending on how what we feel, depending how 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:05.960 do we feel, Which are ET Goonies? And what was 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.480 the third one? Never ending story? My god, it's almost 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.560 like you didn't watch it, Molly he Emily watched ET 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.560 for the first time, but you have never seen it. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.160 So Yeah. This is the other unifying theme of this 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.640 of this series is that, like, we keep going hitting 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.399 things that one of us has never seen or experienced. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.080 I was saying the ultimate night call experience is something 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.160 where one of us loves something, one of us hates it, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:36.079 and the other person who's never seen it. Yeah, I'm 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.280 not hesitant to do this episode, but I think, like 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.720 I think that this kind of movie and this genre 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.480 of movie is one that one I think is like 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.919 wildly over discussed, especially among people of our generation, and 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:54.359 two like I actually have very limited or selective interest 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.320 in UM, which is why I've never seen ET and 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.440 I didn't see Goody until I was like wenty or 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.720 something like weight lightly by the time it was no 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.800 longer really applicable to me. Um, it's always I know, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.799 I like, I like goodies. I think it's pretty good. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.520 But E T I had genuinely. I mean I knew, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.880 like I've seen scenes of it and stuff, and I've 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:18.400 I thought I thought I had cd ET and finger quotes, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:27.120 but finger weird elongated finger, single finger singer. I mean, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.960 I understand like not watching something just because you're like 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.679 bros like this. Therefore, I'm not going to watch it 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.880 out of spike, because I do that with many things, right, 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.280 I mean, I my Yeah, my line on E T 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.200 is always in my internally has been like e T 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.000 is a movie for nice boys from big houses. Like 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.920 it's just like it's good birds. I just I like that. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.120 I saw Jaws for the first time a couple of 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.400 years ago. I still haven't seen Jaws. That's the one. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.320 That's the one that makes you understand why people gave 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.440 Spielbury a lot of money to make movies. Yeah, it's 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.320 like a fake Hitchcock movie about a shark attack. Look, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.520 you guys are so cynical. Eats a good movie. I'm 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.240 so cool about all the eighties movies that ruined the 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:19.400 possibility of ever having stories about real people again. I 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.520 don't know. I think ET is a really good movie, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.840 but I also think that I watched it as a child, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.719 and if you watch it as a kid, it's a 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.440 really especially back then before it looked like it was 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:35.680 done with like five dollar sock puppets. It still I 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.360 don't know, no, no, no, et himself come on, well, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.200 there's no c g I at the time, though it 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.000 was so expensive to make, you know. I mean, what 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.279 these movies have in common, I think is like these 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.320 are all like the Baroque era of practical effects, right 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.320 before c g I comes in to like sweep everything away. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.640 My favorite Baroque era of practical effects movie is Interviewed 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.640 with the Vampire, because they just like burn all this 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.560 stuff down, you know where You're like, man, a year later, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.560 that would be a c g I fire, but like 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.800 they're still like, let's build a huge set and burn 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:14.920 it a movie making. Yeah. I wanted to ask tests though, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.800 as the person here who likes ET, went, how old 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.239 were you when you first saw it? Super young, like five? 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.760 How How are you not like completely traumatized for life 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.479 because I loved it. What's weird is looking back. So 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.839 like my favorite movies from that from like the Kindergarten 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:40.520 through second grade era were et Never Ending Story, Labyrinth, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.120 and Flight of the Navigator. All of them, with the 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.839 exception of Flight of the Navigator, which is like a 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.560 good movie, was a good movie. And now watching it, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.320 I'm like, I can't even watch it because I don't 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.760 want it to be destroyed in my mind. But it's 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.000 interesting because like I was supposed to be scared, and 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.360 I was scared, which felt good to be scared by 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.560 a movie Like I was all in for that, So 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.520 it was an enjoyable thing to have nightmares about a 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.120 movie I love. I've never seen Labyrinth, but from what 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.839 my God, Molly, it's like a Phantom of the Opera 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.120 with David Bowie, Oh my God, is pretty much and 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.520 a bunch of creature puppets. It's a very very sexy movie. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.560 I think I have to say that I am just 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.240 a little afraid of scary puppets. No, you won't be, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.440 because these are most of the puppets and Labyrinth dark puppets. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.159 They're like, it's not like the Dark. Crystal's also a 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.160 movie I loved, but Labyrinth, it's mostly kind of like 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.920 merry trickster puppets, like they can be won over. They're 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.960 not all just like evil, right, but just the presence 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.400 of puppets among human beings is really unnerving. It's very 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.480 unnerving to you watch like Sesame Street. I feel like 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.960 Sesame that kind of interaction, and then it does get 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.520 like the harder stuff. Honestly, find me a kids movie 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.680 from the eighties, A puppet. I think they haven't confused 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.160 with the voyage of the Mimi. Yeah, you're right. There 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.520 were so many puppets, and there's a lot of like 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:07.760 high fantasy, very baroque, big budget. Yeah. And I think 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.160 Goonies it's great. 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You can go 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.439 through the Spaceship landing area, the only animatronics ride in Universal. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.760 Yeah it was, and it was a real dark ride, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.360 but like you got to ride a bike and like 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.840 even having not seen Et and not knowing, you know, 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.400 I was still like wow, Like ride in a bike 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.600 on a ride and you've got a little eat in 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.840 your basket and you go to once and it was 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:30.480 with tests. Our name was Baby Spice probably, yes, that 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.200 was what we said. It was like, hello, Baby Spice. Yes. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.560 The ride was like a superior version of Peter Pan 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.040 at Disneyland. I really, I think they're at the same level. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.920 I don't. I don't think one is bad. I think, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.079 but this is the same. Like go on podcast the 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:49.040 ride with these opinions, Yeah, yeah, yeah. They talked a 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.040 lot about how okay, so ET is like from a 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.360 planet like a green, like flowery planet. Maybe it's like 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.559 a planet of flowers. That's why he can make the 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.880 flowers bloom and die, which otherwise doesn't make any sense 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.800 without having seen the planet and the ride, and they're 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:07.760 right this backstory and there was like his mentor or 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.120 something is on the planet. In the ride and then 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.520 the podcast, right, guys were saying that, like they saw 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.520 the like husk of that animatronic like left out to 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:21.520 rust in a field. They're all super sad about it. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.000 That's exactly what happens to himself. They also they also 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.000 made a shirt commemorating it. I forget what the mentor's 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.920 name is, but it's all about how he's like the 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:38.440 dank guru. Um So, yeah, I learned a lot about 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.800 the Et mythology recently, none of which matters in the movie, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.079 I guess. I I feel like this movie is both 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.680 weirder and more boring than I had thought it was 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.800 going to be, because it does really get extremely dark, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.280 and there are parts of it where I'm like, this 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.960 is such a beloved movie and everybody I feel like 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.199 on on this planet has seen it except for me. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.840 How come I have never seen certain images of it 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.360 that I feel like should be memes at this point. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.040 This is what I tweeted about. I was crying laughing 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.240 when when Et is found when he gets sick and 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.800 he's found facedown in the cutter. Oh yeah, I have 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.880 actually being like touched. It wasn't a raccoon bothering him 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.320 on him. I was dying and I was like, I 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.200 think because it was so upsetting, And I was like, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.800 if I was a child and I had seen this, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.880 this would be a formative image in my mind, Like 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.200 I would not be able to sleep thinking about et 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.640 with the raccoon in the cutter. The thing that's the 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.920 most fucked up I think when you're a kid watching 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:44.439 this movie is when he's dissecting the frogs. Oh yeah, right, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.280 So I like the scarer like, oh no, what will happen, Like, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.040 no matter what happened, something terrible will happen. My gen 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.640 X husband, I was like, is this was this a 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.560 thing that happened? Did you have to kill the frog 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.520 by chloroforming it? And he said no, So I feel 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.400 like that was just made up thing. I mean they 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.120 just came toad become pre evolved. Yeah, they were traditionally. 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:13.200 I don't think you ever have to chloroform um. The 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.719 scene where he and you realize that he's linked to eat, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.480 which also doesn't make any sense at all. I don't 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.400 understand why, both on a psychological level and why on 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:27.319 a narrative level, Like how it happens that so So 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.760 this is the thing about Spielberg movies is that the 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.600 way that people talk about them is being in speaking 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.120 in this like broadly accessible language of pop culture that 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.440 like every every American innately understands. I just am not 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.760 on the wavelength. My brain just stops it, like wait, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.400 why are they linked? Like why? Like I didn't see 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.240 you're not a red blooded all American boomer. If if 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.200 ET was like a giant robot and he had to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.720 climb into I would understand by for the iron giant 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.760 is off putting to me about Et is not like 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:07.160 anything about the idea of like a boy making a friend. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.440 That's a weird thing. It's just specifically the weird thing 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.560 they made is so weird. It's like a bag of 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:18.880 ball look like a mashed up bag nuts. But it's 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.960 also like the color pellette. They chose the fact that 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.520 he's like tann like what your kids want to hang 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.480 out with, a giant raisin, Like it's it's too close 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.120 to like human flesh tones. If it were like green, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.800 it's uncanny valley to you. Yes, if it were green 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.040 or blue, if it were like a traditional alien color, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.400 it would be less creepy to me. But the fact 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.640 that it's just like it looks like job of the hut. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:47.200 It's just like an orb of like pulsating. His face 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:53.720 was inspired by Einstein and Hemingway. The actors too. The 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.959 head was like the neck and the head were above 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.880 the actors, and then the actors were two little people. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.400 And then also a twelve year old boy was born 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:07.320 without legs. Interestingly, and they saw through ets chest. Also 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.079 this I went down like a deep hole. But now 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.760 I know, I'm like there are people who have gone 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:17.200 even deeper. I'm sure, yeah, exactly. Um. The voice of 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.520 Et was this woman who smoked two packs a day, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.320 and she she did nine hours of work and she 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:29.760 was paid only three hundred and eighty dollars. So upsetting. No, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:35.280 it's in the Wikipedia union and and they also recorded 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:41.080 sixteen other people people in animals, including um raccoons, otters, horses, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:50.040 Deborah Winger. I I kept reading the Wikipedia being like 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:56.840 what what there's so many woods that makes it sound 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.120 like it's such a low budget production, though they had 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.240 so much money. It was supposed to be his like 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:03.920 low Budge. He was like, I want to make a 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.960 small movie, like an intimate movie based on like my 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.680 experience growing up as a kid not experienced this was 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.840 like it's a project he'd been wanting to work on 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.720 for a really long time, and then I guess like 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.120 he drew on like several different stalled projects to you 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.600 were telling me about that a little bit listeners. So 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.840 I also learned about this that there's a conspiracy out there. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.600 I don't know if this is what Test is referring 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.800 to that um the guy who directed the Pather Ben Charlie, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.680 the APU trilogy and I have announced his first name, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:39.320 but Ray, yeah, he there's this conspiracy that this was 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.600 his film and that and that Spielberg stole it from him. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.560 That's what he claimed. But then he didn't. He also 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.880 not sue because he was like Spielberg is a great 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.840 director and it's a good movie. It's just that he 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.040 stole it from me, which if so, like I would 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.600 watch his version like a hundred times. Where wanted to 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.720 make and he made a movie called Ali. I think 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.160 he wrote a treatment for maybe you didn't make it, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.000 but it's about and the description is like the same. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.040 But then like Spielberg fired back and he was like no, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.520 like he was like very impacted by his parents divorce 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.520 and this is like whatever. He had this project called 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.440 night Skies and it ended up being installed project, but 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.240 he took a lot of the material and used it 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.200 for e T and also for Poultergeist I guess, which 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.480 Molly brought up at the end of our last episode. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.960 And it's also a movie that I love that you've 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:34.920 never seen, Molly, have you? Right? Yeah? Um? It is 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.000 interesting though, right because like et kind of kicks it up. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.480 It's such a like weird beginning of the movie that 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.800 the mom has this like really intense reaction to the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.520 dad being with the Mexico woman but he hates Mexico, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.160 and then it's just like drys I think it works. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.240 I don't know. Well, so the one thing in this 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.880 movie that I don't think was wildly oversold to me 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:01.880 about it was Drew Barrymore, who is incredible sheardy or 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.439 gird or whatever. So she reminds me of most of 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.560 Tutti and Meet Me in St. Louis like that kind 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.160 of child star where you're just like, it's not even 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 like that creepy thing of like like a hyper talented 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.920 like semi adult child. Sorry, You're just like you're so 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.400 good at being a kid on camera. It's insane. Yeah, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.280 it's the guy too. What's his name, Henry Thomas. The 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.000 guy plays Elliot's amazing. I have to disagree here. I 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.679 am Elliott. I found Elliott to be such a lame protagonist. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.760 I could not get into Elliott. Yeah, I'm sorry. He 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.800 seemed like such a wet blanket. I thought it was 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.119 really creepy when he was drunk in the classroom. I 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.320 wait for my hot take on the guy who played 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.200 a tray you later when we talk about never ending story. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.400 Uh yeah, I mean, I I think that scene, but 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.640 that's like the frog scene. That's where he like gets 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.520 drunk because he's linked to Et who's getting drunk on 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.679 beer at home. Again, all this stuff would never exist 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.040 in a movie like this now, which is like one 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.800 of the things like kind of like about it, but 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.680 so none of it works for me actually at all. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.040 But I like the sense that it is kind of 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:06.680 and I think that this is like a uniting theme 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.800 with all these movies, Like they're like more funky than 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.800 any kind of family movie can be. Now. Yeah, they 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.440 have many weird edges, which makes them like not necessarily likable, 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.000 but definitely like interesting. It seems like a relic from 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.080 a place that we all were, because sometimes some of 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.159 the relic nous of it has to do with like 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:30.000 how racist eighties movies are, where you're just like, it's crazy, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.159 this was in a movie that that kind of stuff 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.520 is different, though, I'm talking about just like the way 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.720 that it looks and feels and like the things that 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:40.040 they allowed to escape past the field. Honestly, I'm talking 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.800 about like the kids breath kids, the keenis breath smoking, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.840 just like these like latch key kids who are just 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.560 allowed to like bike around and like do whatever and 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.080 they're super thing. Maybe we're just so tired of that 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.080 from all the iterations of it so that it's harder 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.320 to put it on e T. Yeah, it's really hard 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.760 to watch this now, having seen like at least just 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.040 the first season of The Stranger Things and a zillion 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.520 other things that riff on this sort of thing that 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.280 just made us all like collectively side because we were like, 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.680 what if there were like a bunch of Drew Barrymore's 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.480 riding bikes and like still like one little special white 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.760 kid who's got special dreams. Well, and it's like it's 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.000 I don't know, I mean, I I kind of knew 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.040 this already, but like Stranger Things, it's it's like a 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.119 large part of the plot is just ET, but like 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.760 with a girl instead of as Stephen King. I guess, yeah, 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.840 Weirdo comes to town. Some of these things are just 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.520 like but they like they have like quirky foods that 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.600 they have to feed her and stuff. It's just like 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.680 it's so rough. I I hate Stranger I've never seen 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.600 Close Encounters. Close Encounters is pretty good. I think, well, 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.879 what how about how about a final defensive et from Tests? Okay, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.200 So I just want to say, like, so I rewatched DT. 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.399 I also watched d T two two years ago. I 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.520 tried to watch about six months ago with my kids 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.760 because I was like, their older, right, the spoilers not 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.119 start screaming uncontrollably when Eat came on screen because it's 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.800 a nightmare. They just like it was even before that. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.199 It was like, you know, the ship starts glowing and 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.640 they're just like, no, really, but you said they got 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.639 through Peee's Big Adventure. They got through my mind so much, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.880 scary Molly. They got through Jurassic Park when they were like, 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.680 it's fun like a Marvel movie at that point, like 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.600 the film language is this close enough now wow that 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.840 I think there's almost like a joyous atmosphere and Jurassic 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.320 Park that you forget until you like rewatching, and then 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.320 you're like it's just like a party at a theme 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.320 park and it's you get swept away in it. You 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.359 almost don't notice when things go wrong. I guess if 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.840 you're like six years old. No, it's a great it's 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.439 a fun movie, Jurassic Park. I mean, I don't know 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.800 when E T. I think E T I am reminded. 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.000 I think that's one of the great things about having 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.040 kids is that I would be like cynical and more 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:02.240 inclined to kind of not in not let myself enjoy 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.399 a movie like ET. But when I watch it, there's 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.640 this thing of like, you know, when you see your 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.800 kids going through the same like stages of childhood that 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.640 you went through, and when you watch a movie like ET, 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.800 which is essentially a kind of like you know, visual 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.399 representation of developing empathy, it's it's like it's you know, 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:24.240 it's kind of a powerful thing. Sound like embarrassed, but 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.440 it is. I mean it's like that. Do you think 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.720 like the empathy aspect of it. We'll see when I 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.359 can make them sit through that death. No, it's too early. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.639 I mean my kids at the time it was. I 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.480 think it was when my oldest was five and my 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.320 youngest was like two. Did they join you to watch Tully? 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.160 I can't even talk about Tully. Tully is the Locust 0:21:49.280 --> 0:22:02.920 poduc my psyche? Yeah? Eight trill, trill. Today's episode of 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.000 Nightcall is brought to you by the Assassinations podcast on 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:10.200 the podcast Network. The assassination of President John F. 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