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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: episode five of J Daly's Like Guys to production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is the podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially,

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Speaker 1: off the top, fuck the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News,

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Speaker 1: fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck fuck Section, fuck Sean Hannity, fuck

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Speaker 1: j K. Rowling. And now that we've got that out

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Speaker 1: of the way, it's Friday, June twenty. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a k A Jack o' thigh in uh,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Crag Dennis surface Bap bapap. But

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that Pappa was another case ba ba

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Speaker 1: I need some reliefing. I can't believe Carri's on that

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Speaker 1: wild and her own and her only their only new mound.

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Speaker 1: So there was a lot of controversy with this a

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Speaker 1: k A. Chrispy Meme Doughnut a Christie Yamagucci man who

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Speaker 1: submits to many a k s put this and said

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Speaker 1: to the tune of I'm a believer by smashed mouth. Now,

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Speaker 1: many people hopped in the replies and called out this

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Speaker 1: monkeys erasure um and I understand. I I totally get that.

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Speaker 1: A shout out to everybody who came to the defense

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Speaker 1: of the monkeys. But yes, I had to honor the mouth,

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Speaker 1: the smack mouch smash mouth version there was mouch. Well,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by the hilarious and talented Kevin T. Porter. Hello, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: We're doing it. It's it's all good and the world

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Speaker 1: is getting better and better every day, isn't it every day?

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Speaker 1: It depends on how you look at it. There's you

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Speaker 1: can always find good. You can always find good, and

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Speaker 1: you can always you can you know, there's there's always

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Speaker 1: little you know, it's John chris Zensky has taught us recently,

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Speaker 1: there's always some good news. Like we always need a

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Speaker 1: little smile and we can find that every day if

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Speaker 1: we look hard enough. Do we know the origin story

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Speaker 1: of it yet? Like, aside from the press release boiler

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Speaker 1: plate version of like you know, he just felt like

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Speaker 1: it was the world really could use some good news

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Speaker 1: right now, and that's why we're calling it that. But

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Speaker 1: like do you. I feel like it was the most

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Speaker 1: cynical thing where it's like, Okay, you know what would

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Speaker 1: fucking kill right now is if we do some jankie

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Speaker 1: from my Kitchen show where it looks like a dad

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Speaker 1: telling you about the good of the world, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: eat that ship up and then we'll fucking sell off

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Speaker 1: the I P BA. You know how Krazinski do No.

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Speaker 1: I believe if if someone were to write an oral

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Speaker 1: history of s GN, it would be h thirty words

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Speaker 1: long and it would be John Krazinski's agent saying I

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Speaker 1: That would be the oral history. Also with John Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: and I hate to you know, Listen has has called

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Speaker 1: out on cancel culture gone too far. It's a question

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Speaker 1: we ask ourselves every day every But with John, he

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Speaker 1: is not he's he's not that. That's the whole image

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. I have friends at work post on

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Speaker 1: a quiet place. He yelled at editors, he threw stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's mean, he's not He's not a dad that wants

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Speaker 1: to throw a prom for teenagers. He's just like he's

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Speaker 1: just in the middle. Hollywood jerk. Yes, unfortunately, we may

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Speaker 1: be looking at an Ellen situation, folks, where things are

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Speaker 1: not as they appear. Oh that was my favorite. I

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Speaker 1: remember like looking fifteen years ago, no, maybe twelve years ago,

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Speaker 1: heard someone who had survived that show, and it was like, no, man,

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Speaker 1: he's like notes, it's it is. And you had a

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Speaker 1: very popular Twitter thread where you were just like, hey,

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Speaker 1: was horror stories that was like like two or three

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Speaker 1: happy with the validation of that. What was the wildest

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Speaker 1: story that you got in your in reply to that call? Well,

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Speaker 1: I can't do anything with it, Like, I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: how productive it'll be. We're transmitting from the air ducts

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Speaker 1: in the studio exactly. We were actually talking on yesterday's

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Speaker 1: episode about Tina Fey and I noticed that you were

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Speaker 1: kind of responding to her attempting to get thirty Rock

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Speaker 1: did any sort of sensitivity. Yeah, I mean especially and

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Speaker 1: black face from the last twenty or so years or

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Speaker 1: weird if they voice black people and animated shows. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think in all those cases it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely like corporate interests in play, and maybe there

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Speaker 1: is like legitimate change the heart whatever, you don't. You

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Speaker 1: specifically her her history on late race as it stands

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Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as the same woman that would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I really care about kids not seeing black face,

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Speaker 1: and it would just really hurt my heart. If if

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the apologeny business. I'm opting out of that.

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Speaker 1: So my thing with her is like, that's fine, continue

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Speaker 1: opting out of it. Like I don't need you to

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Speaker 1: be my my progressive savior. I don't want Seinfeld to

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Speaker 1: of my evolution, I guess is there. I don't is

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Speaker 1: sure there are people where it's like they make valuant

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Speaker 1: like just so you know, I got the DVDs at

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Speaker 1: Dirty Rock. Yeah, if you if you download the torrents,

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Speaker 1: when I see the actual work being done, rather than

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Speaker 1: it's not like Mike Sure is gonna be like this

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Speaker 1: like kind of it materially doesn't really have a consequence.

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Speaker 1: Probably where is that Cat Cohen that has a consequence?

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Speaker 1: was like, I can't do it, like you guys, this

425
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: is too much. Don't don't drag me into this territory now, like,

426
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: let little Stevie from the Eastreet Band just be little Stevie. Yeah,

427
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: I think that's right. That was like Netflix's first show

428
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: before right, people forget that. Yeah, we were like the

429
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Speaker 1: Company House of Cards, Bill, It's like no dog Lily

430
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: hammer off that back, Steve. Yeah, that was when their

431
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: model was invest in the fifth guy in Sopranos and

432
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: see if he can carry a whole show because that

433
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: show was popular. Uh. And then they went a little

434
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Speaker 1: further three seasons, three seasons, Kevin, what is the myth?

435
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: What's something people think is true you know to be false? Uh?

436
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: I thought about this a lot in in in thinking

437
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: about myths in particular. One myth maybe the existence of Hell.

438
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: And I'm here to say Hell isn't real. Thank you.

439
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: That's a load off my shoulders. Boy, Jack's pissed that

440
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: Hell isn't real. What's Catholic? Man? You're kind of you're

441
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of disrupting a lot of teachings right now. Yeah.

442
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: There's something that I read at some point about how

443
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Speaker 1: the existence of of Hell has has like some connotation

444
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: with like societies that I don't know, it's like more

445
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: impactful on the moral makeup of a society than you

446
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: would think, like belief in hell. Absolutely, Yeah, I mean

447
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: it kind of gets into I'm sure, I'm sure it's

448
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: conversant with the conversations about prison reformed stuff and like

449
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: the idea of justice, and I'm sure it's got to

450
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: influence so many things. I do you have like ultimate

451
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: justice in a way? Oh? Man? Hell huh. I mean

452
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: it's just say, you know, like when I was tripping

453
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Speaker 1: and like reading books like in cause like what if

454
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Speaker 1: like this is hell right now? How do we know that?

455
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: So like Buck bro hand me that bomb? Yeah no,

456
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: well okay, Miles kind of just stole my whole argument.

457
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: So I guess I can't dispel the myth fully. Did

458
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Speaker 1: you grow up fearing Hell? Yeah? I did not, really.

459
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: I Like when I was really young, I tried to,

460
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Speaker 1: like think of I could never get my mind around

461
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: the idea of eternity, like I just did. It didn't

462
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Speaker 1: seem possible to me. So then like I couldn't. I

463
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Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. I gave up when I was

464
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Speaker 1: five and gave up on hell. At five, I just

465
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Speaker 1: gave up on like understanding it. You hate to hear that, man,

466
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Speaker 1: I think I did. I think I did, though, because

467
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: like my nightmares were always me doing bad things and

468
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: like get in trouble like me, like like what I

469
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: used to have this recording nightmare where someone would like

470
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: force me to do drugs. UM, when when I was

471
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: like five or six or something. God, yeah, what happened?

472
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: I don't know many what kind of drugs did? They

473
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: fortunated they would so I didn't know about drugs, So

474
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Speaker 1: they would cut my thumb and then pour powder on

475
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Speaker 1: the cut. Uh, and that was how that was how

476
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Speaker 1: they got me. Um. And then what would happen? Like

477
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: you would your mom would be like, Jack, you're on drugs?

478
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Go to exactly, Oh my goodness, gracious? And what was

479
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: it like the drug free America? Like how did you

480
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: get that connotation with the drugs and everything? I think

481
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: it must have been the p s A S. I mean,

482
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm growing up in the Reagan era and

483
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Speaker 1: like grow a lot of TV, a lot of like

484
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Speaker 1: very special episodes of people, you know, doing drugs having

485
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: their life run by drugs. Um. Turns out drugs are

486
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: awesome and uh, they're too good. They're not nobody's going

487
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: to force you to pour them in your thumb cut though.

488
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: But yeah. Now we cut to two weeks from now

489
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Speaker 1: when Daily's eyeguys listeners. There's an epidemic of thumb, cutting powder,

490
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: putting into horrible infection. Children are going to the I

491
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Speaker 1: c U and record numbers from this podcast. The least

492
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: efficient way to do cocaine, cut your thumb and then

493
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: pour terrible, terrible infection. Yeah yeah, but I didn't even

494
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: get into your system that way. I don't think. I mean,

495
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: it was could absorbent, but then I feel like then

496
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: it was just like necrotize from a terrible infection, Like

497
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: it's gotten necrotic and I got a cool, like purple thumb. Now, yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: I don't think I had a fully realistic view of

499
00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: drug use when I was like seven years old. That's

500
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Speaker 1: why I gotta you gotta get your kids started early,

501
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, so they don't have the weird dreams. Show

502
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: them the wire, so him how to break open a

503
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: light bulb and get busy with it. What the heck

504
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: is that? Really? Don't get Kevin, I can't corrupt you.

505
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: I know. I do have a lack of knowledge with

506
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Speaker 1: drugs that is comforting to me like you do. And

507
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: there's a spill. Oh my god. All right, let's take

508
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

509
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about a couple just sort of

510
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: staggering out in the open. Examples of racism from police.

511
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: There is a cop who was caught on video just

512
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: basically fantasizing about murdering black men, using the N word constantly, uh,

513
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: saying I can't wait, God, I can't wait for like

514
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: basically a race war, talking about how he's arming himself

515
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: up for it. And another police officer who he's talking to,

516
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: who's on board for the most part, And these are

517
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: words of a person who's legally like allowed to murder people.

518
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: And they were It was not like a new a

519
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: young this was a long time officer. So the full

520
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: conversation is definitely worth reading because I think it makes

521
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: it clear just like what we're up against. And I

522
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: don't know how you read that and still feel comfortable

523
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: with their being armed police in the United States. The

524
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: examples keep adding up, or the proof is becoming more

525
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: available to people who really want to see, like what

526
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: the you know, what put the police force in this

527
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: country has evolved into, and like what are the elements

528
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: within it? In this bushel of apples, man, there's some

529
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: there's some bad ones, there's some white supremacist ones. There

530
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 1: are guys who are horny for a race war that

531
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: the intent in their voices of like fantasizing about it

532
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: is really just if someone's like I just need a reason,

533
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: because that's really what it is. I'm ready to kill

534
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: black people. Unfortunately I need a reason to do it.

535
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: So I will join and I will go to an

536
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: occupation where there is a monopoly on violence the police

537
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: force because we are we exclusively have the rights to violence.

538
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: If you are violent at all, the police will come,

539
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what context, because violence is for the state

540
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: and for the police to do on you. And you

541
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: have people who are just saying I just need a

542
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: fucking reason, um, and they're walking around the streets and

543
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: even to like what you know, a countless people not

544
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Speaker 1: aside from like Danielle who was talking about her own

545
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: family and other people I know who has had parents

546
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: in law enforcement and who have had to several relationships

547
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: in the last month because of they began to question

548
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: what their parents were doing over the last few years.

549
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Like I've heard you say some really wild shit over

550
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: the years. How do how could I ever know you've

551
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: never done something fucked up out there, even if you

552
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: didn't realize it. Even if you didn't realize it. But

553
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: how do I know that if you don't trust me,

554
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stuff and to know that this

555
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: is out there is frightening. But again, this is a

556
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: terror that has been known forever for certain people in

557
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: this country. But yes, I hope every time we're hearing

558
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: about this, whether it's even police and Milwaukee who are

559
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: abdicating their responsibility to follow up on people saying children

560
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: were abducted and the neighborhood is going on their own

561
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to find justice, that we can see that there are

562
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: these issues that we have to correct. There's nothing is

563
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: getting better where only I think now people just are

564
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: willing to see how bad it is and now you're

565
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: there's a taste of it. It tastes like shit. Yeah,

566
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: I know people use the apple metaphor a lot and

567
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: bad apple or like oh, I mean, although the rest

568
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: of that phrases one bad apple ruins the bunch, which

569
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I think people realize. Also, I don't know if we've

570
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: talked about the possibility that maybe just apples are bad

571
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: for you, maybe you shouldn't eat apples at all, and

572
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: maybe apple is a food group is not something you

573
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: need in your life. But if but Adam and Eve

574
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and and Johnny apple seed, right, no, an apple I'm

575
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: in even so Eve took the apple and then created

576
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: original sin in our falle world that we live in.

577
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: So that iPhones iPhones, but the iPhones, you know, that's

578
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: part of the common grace that God has given us.

579
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: But then in in a way, an apple has ruined

580
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: our lives forever, So abolish apples. But you know, like

581
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: what happens after, right, Like because Jackie you wrote this

582
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: in there of you know, these people have been operating

583
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: above the law for a long time, and in the

584
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: last month, the world is changing very quickly. For these

585
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: people who were able to murder and kill and maim undisturbed,

586
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: are suddenly finding themselves in a world where people are

587
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: paying a lot more attention, realizing not only are they overpaying,

588
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: are overpaid and bleeding budgets, uh when they can go

589
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: to people who actually need money. But they're also these

590
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: reforms coming and these structural changes that essentially could put

591
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: them out of the job. You know, like when you

592
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: have these uh you know, like in certain places that

593
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: have completely revamped their police departments, it's like they fire everybody.

594
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Everybody is to reapply. So I have a feeling there

595
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: are cops out there who would even if they reapply,

596
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: they'd be like, look, we gotta be real, man, your

597
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: record is a fucked up. There's no fucking way you're

598
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna like that was back then. But this is the

599
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: reason why we dismantled this department, is to make sure

600
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: we know everybody who's in there. And unfortunately you don't

601
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: pass the test. What happens to these other officers afterwards,

602
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: who are just angry white people who are just used

603
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: to killing black people undisturbed? What? And yeah, I guess

604
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: that is their secondary fantasy is to be like, well,

605
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: then it's civil war, and then it's there is no laws,

606
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: and then that's how I can just act this out

607
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I mean it's still I'd say

608
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: it's still preferable to you know, fire them all, abolish

609
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: the police. But when we do, a lot of them

610
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: are going to turn into a very dangerous, like you know,

611
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: white supremacist terror organization. And we just need to as

612
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: a society grapple with the fact that we don't take

613
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: white supremacists uh domestic terrorism seriously, and it's going to

614
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: it's going to be a problem for a long long time. Um,

615
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: it's still preferable because they won't legally be allowed to

616
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: murder people. Um, but I do think we need to

617
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: be prepared that these are neo Nazis and openly violent

618
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: white supremacists. Um. And I mean so on behind the police.

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Speaker 1: Robert Evans is mini series that he's doing with Propagate,

620
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: and do they talk about an active white supremacist gang

621
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Speaker 1: that was operating out of an l. A. Sheriff's uh precinct,

622
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: Like it was the l A. Sheriff's precinct called the

623
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Lynwood Vikings, And when you go to the Wikipedia page,

624
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: it's all like wanton racist hate crimes and it just ends.

625
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: It's never like dealt with. It's never like and then

626
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: they were like rooted out. There's a suit that requires

627
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: the L. A. Sheriff's Department to pay nine million dollars

628
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: in damages. And one of the guys they framed for

629
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: murder gets out of prison after decades of being spent there.

630
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: But there they're still out there and this is like

631
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: not that far from where Robert Fuller was hanged. Um,

632
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: so it's it's just I don't know, man. There there's

633
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: a woman in Wisconsin who was attacked with lighter fluid

634
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: by for frat boys stay in second and third degree burns,

635
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: and the media is just kind of not really covering

636
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Speaker 1: it again because since the beginning of all of these

637
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: uprisings and protests, I've been saying, these systems respond every

638
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: time to something, right if there it's just like a

639
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: living organism, if it feels that it is in threat,

640
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: it will have to defend itself. So the police are

641
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: on the back foot the first couple of months. Now

642
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: they're they're really out here with their full blown like

643
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: we're victims. We're gonna brutalize people on camera, Like another

644
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: cop is gonna remind me I'm doing illegal chokes on

645
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: black people on camera. There's a lot where you're seeing this,

646
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, like just in the moment where a lot

647
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: of people I think felt good of like, Okay, we're

648
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: on the verge of reform. You also see where the

649
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: media comes into your point and sort of isn't allowing

650
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: this to be part of the main discussion anymore of

651
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, let's keep this, let's keep stoking this

652
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: flame of being like we need to actually reform the police,

653
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: and we are just seeing the uh, the backlash. I

654
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: just feel like in every single thing, like whether it's

655
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: policing or it's even uh performers not doing the voices

656
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: of black characters, there's gonna be the response where the

657
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: racists have to come out and show themselves because that's

658
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: just what it is. So if it's the you know,

659
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: Jenny Slate thing, then people are like, well what about

660
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: James Earl Jones, Like that's just the nature like it.

661
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: There's always going to be a response from people of

662
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: this other side of this ideology. And I think that's

663
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: what we have to keep looking at, is every time

664
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: ground is made or improvements are made, there will always

665
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 1: be a push back from these systems, whether that's white

666
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: supremacy or what have you. But this is this is

667
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: going to be constant. I think being reminded of that

668
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: uh fact will help people stay focused on this because again,

669
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, the media really they yeah, they really don't

670
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: give a funk as much now unless it's like unless

671
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: things are burning down. There isn't much room for that

672
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: because we're completely on like Bill Barr huh, Like he's

673
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: a he's a career, he's a crime on he's a creep. Yeah.

674
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I think the last month is the first time that

675
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: I have aligned in my in conservative families disdain for

676
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: like mainstream media stuff. So before mainstream media was like, oh,

677
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: they're fearmongering about COVID nineteen, it's actually just the flu

678
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: it's not bad, blah blah blah, or like the mainstream

679
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: media won't tell you about this hashtag plandemic. And then

680
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: the idea of like the way that the mainstream media

681
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: did cover BLM protests in the movement, especially the first

682
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: couple of weeks in all the like couch fainting and

683
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: pearl clutching about the looters and all this, and and

684
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: like how they frame things and what they put their

685
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: their focus and attention on. That was the first time

686
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: that social media did feel like a net positive for

687
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: the world in the sense of like distribution invisibility, which

688
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: is like in truly like it may have been one

689
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: of the only and I'm sure there's like been plenty

690
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: of social uprisings where social media has been like a

691
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: like an important component of it, But with the BLMS,

692
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: it just felt like unimpeachable, like putting together like these

693
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: montages of lap D brutalizing the police over a video

694
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: of Eric Garcetti being like I love you, son to

695
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: chief more and things like that. It just felt unimpeachabul

696
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's sad that that civilians

697
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: have to be held to a higher standard with this

698
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: stuff in terms of vigilance than elected in officials and

699
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: civil servants. But the people who run these you know,

700
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: news organizations are white liberals typically, And it's exactly what

701
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: like Martin Luther King was talking about, like well intentioned

702
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: white liberals, um like be aware because that's not how

703
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: we get to real justice because it's you can tell

704
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: just how the news operates, like even the people who

705
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: run the newsrooms have a certain threshold for how much

706
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: discomfort they're willing to even have go through their air

707
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: waves of Like I don't know, it's should we really

708
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: keep talking about out like this colonizers stuff like that's

709
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: kind of getting heavy. I don't know, Like should we

710
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: just talk Like you go to MSNBC right now, there

711
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: isn't a single headline having to do with anything that

712
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: was related to the uprisings and protests that have been

713
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: going on. It's about you know, Biden having a lead.

714
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: You know what's going on with COVID nineteen. Trump has

715
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: bad polls, there's nothing about Brianna Taylor's you know, murderers

716
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: still being out there only getting fired. What's happening in

717
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: other cities? Uh, you know barely. I just barely saw

718
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: something about Elijah McClain. How the governor is asking that

719
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: that case be actually investigated now. But this is how

720
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: the me like because a lot of people they really

721
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: think the media is the fucking world, and unfortunately, when

722
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: they fall into that, they will look at this and go, Okay,

723
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: I think I think racism has been solved, but we're

724
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: still out here saying like, oh my god, but this

725
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: is how it works. They can't they can't really shine

726
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: the light on themselves right now. They're just incapable. Um.

727
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I like the the lack of diversity, inclusion,

728
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: and especially when you look at the media, like this

729
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: is the kind of thing you get, Yeah, I mean that.

730
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: There There's a guy John Rice who has written in

731
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: the Atlantic and talked on New York Magazine's podcast about

732
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: what he calls third degree racism, and he kind of

733
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: describes it as it's like the most omnipresent type of discrimination.

734
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: It kind of undergirds every part of American companies basically, uh,

735
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: like white owned and run companies. Um, And it's third

736
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: degree and that it's like not intentional, it's passive and

737
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: maybe less acutely damaging than the stuff we were just

738
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: talking about, but it's omnipresence makes it as damaging on

739
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: the on the whole. I'll just read like what he

740
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: wrote in his article in the Atlantic. He said, employers

741
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: whose efforts to increase diversity lack the same analytical and

742
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: executional rigor there just taken for granted and every other

743
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: part of their business engaging practices that disadvantaged black people

744
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: in the competition for economic opportunity. Like, it needs to

745
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: be a goal that you're tracking with metrics. It needs

746
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: to be like you would any other part of your

747
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: business that you want to succeed in. It can't just

748
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: be a thing that you make a gesture at every

749
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: once in a while when people are looking. Yeah, but

750
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: that's but that's all people. A lot of people just

751
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: know how to do and there aren't they aren't around

752
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: enough people to tell them that's bullshit. That's not change

753
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: at all. That's you. That's like you just being like

754
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: oh sorry, sorry, sorry. That's the equivalent of like just

755
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: being like, oh sorry, that's it. That's all you did

756
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: was apologized. Because if you're really you know, if you're

757
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: really looking at this as an issue, then take like

758
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: then think about it to your point, Jack, Like, if

759
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna use analytics and figure out how you're gonna

760
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: boost your profit margins or whatever business goal you have,

761
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that more than being like, yeah, we

762
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: need more of that, So just do that and uh,

763
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you at the end of the quarter.

764
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Like You've got to have a stre ategy. It's the

765
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: same thing with dismantling systemic racism. You have to have

766
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: a strategy. You have to have a way of looking

767
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: at it and quantifying it, because I think the thing

768
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: that people do is be very disingenuous and act like

769
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: it isn't a measurable thing. Like even though there's so

770
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: much data to say, uh, these cities are segregated like this,

771
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: there is your data right there. There's so much that

772
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: you can look at to help inform your decision making.

773
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Say oh wow, like it's not just that I have

774
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: to hire people, it's like that I have to make

775
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: my company a place that allows black people and a

776
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: diverse group of people a pathway into stable income to

777
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, generate wealth, because that's the Unfortunately, the name

778
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: of the game here is like you have to be

779
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: in here and then you have to buy real estate

780
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: because that's just the American cycle um and a lot

781
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: of places too. But that if you're not thinking like that,

782
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: then yeah, you're gonna get all this bullshit, these empty

783
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: gestures that ring hollow, Like after you get the bone

784
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: or off from the press release and then you're like, oh, yeah, yeah,

785
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: it probably had schedule program. It feels like most of

786
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: the time that stuff has the social efficacy of like

787
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: the leading old tweets rather than Okay, well, what's the

788
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: thing moving forward, what's the commitment, what's the change, where's

789
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: the money going, what's the practice now? I don't even

790
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: know if you guys at all followed the Ringer stuff

791
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: for the Bill Simmons stuff this past week. I have

792
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: it in here actually, Oh is that true? Oh gracious yeah,

793
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: because well he specifically addresses one of the things that

794
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons raises, the whole pipeline thing. He's like, well,

795
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: you know that we didn't have the ability to hire

796
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: a more diverse staff because we were like didn't have

797
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: the money and there wasn't you know, we were just

798
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: still starting out. And it's like he, uh, you have

799
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: the money to what underpay people of color like you

800
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: normally do. Like what then is that? He said? He said,

801
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: when executives used that excuse that there's like a small

802
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: pipeline of talent, uh, he asks them, Oh, yeah, how

803
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: many black people did you have at your wedding? Because

804
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: we're not the band right exactly, and that is yeah.

805
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: He His point is that like a lot of the time,

806
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: people are hiring from like their pool of social connections,

807
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: and they're not doing it because they're thinking out loud,

808
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: I want a gate keep. They're doing it because it's

809
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: the easy thing to do. It's the it's easier to

810
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: let people who you know know somebody who is at

811
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: your wedding, and it's just it's self perpetuating. It's it's

812
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 1: but yeah, the Simmons thing was interesting, Kevin. I I'd

813
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts on that. Uh. And as

814
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: someone who has like really I I love a lot

815
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: of the Ringer content stuff. I listened to some of

816
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: those shows regularly and and probably read the website regularly,

817
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: but very disappointing stuff. I mean it. Bill Simmons has

818
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: been kind of showing his ass the last month as

819
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: far as like the conversation goes, even in his first

820
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: podcast back with Ron Russilo from from the protests, where

821
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: they were just like very flippant and and really insensitive

822
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: about just like lutera blellshit and stuff like that. But um,

823
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: the thing from the New York Times piece that was

824
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: really offensive that people rightfully kind of zeroed in on,

825
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: as as the language that said so much I was

826
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: talking about like even so even in in in the

827
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: sense of their podcast where like on some of those

828
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: shows they would have on more guests of color or

829
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: more different kinds of people, and then over time it's

830
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: just been like for their Rewatchables podcasts, it just became

831
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: the same three guys who are you know, senior staff

832
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: at the at the website, in their white males. And

833
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: the thing Bill Simmons said was this is an open

834
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: mic night as far as like proven talent and stuff,

835
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: which just like, yeah, I feel like even that, like

836
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: that is the stuff that we have to be so

837
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: vigilant and identifying and understanding the kind of like thought

838
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: processes that that lead to that moment. By the way,

839
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: it is an open mic night. Bill Simmons did give

840
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: his fourteen year old daughter a podcast on the Okay, yeah,

841
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: I guess it's not open mic night because comedians do

842
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: those generally, but not just like guys, you know, yeah,

843
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: especially like in a lot of industries. I mean, I

844
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: can only speak from entertainment comedy myself, but I've only

845
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: been able to move up because of my proximity to whiteness.

846
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: I've never had a black person give me a job

847
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: ever in entertainment. Ever, I've only had the job because

848
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: I knew white people who were who were vacating that position,

849
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: who used to work there, who I worked with previously

850
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: and are now in a position to higher But that's

851
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: the game a lot for a lot of uh, non

852
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: white people to get into industries that are so so

853
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: homogeneous like this. It's very like there's no way to

854
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: do it because it's not like you're gonna go on

855
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: on Craig's List and see an add to be a

856
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: writer's assistant for the next NBC show. That's just not

857
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: how it works. Like you have to know somebody who

858
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: knows somebody who knows somebody, and if you're if you're

859
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: already like trying to enter a very white scene and

860
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: you are not white, there's like extra work you gotta do,

861
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 1: Like you gotta have to You're gonna have to figure

862
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: out who these people are that are worth knowing and

863
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: that can offer you opportunity, because at the end of

864
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: the day, it comes like it comes very differently than

865
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people who I just see like, oh Ship,

866
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: Like wow, how did you get that job? Like I

867
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: didn't even know they were hiring, And they're like, oh yeah,

868
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: like my friends X like used to run that thing

869
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: and now he's at U t A. But he like

870
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: he knew me, like he knows my cousin and then

871
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: so he just had me come through and like yeah,

872
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: like I was doing some ship like my last game,

873
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what the funk? Like that's how you'll

874
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: get jobs. It almost feels like that's like a more

875
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: sinister microcosm of what you see happening with like film

876
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: industry stuff, where it's so prevalent right now to make

877
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: based on pre existing i P because it's like it's

878
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: a known quantity and it's a safe bet so okay,

879
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a live action remake of Little Mermaid

880
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: or whatever they're doing. And so so that being like

881
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: a broader, less harmful example of the more micro stuff

882
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: that is fear based decision making the worst kind, yeah,

883
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: which is like trusted, Like, Okay, well I know Steven

884
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: and I grew up across the street from it. He

885
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: can hold it down, I guess, but it's like he

886
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: doesn't have an original thought in his body and he

887
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: can only speak in quotes from the movie Old School,

888
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Oh my God, and you're like, you're running this whole

889
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: day but old School. Yeah right, I mean, like, but

890
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, very specific time, but you know, it's that's

891
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: kind of that's the game. Uh. And I think that's

892
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: why people need to look, you know, like these jobs

893
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: and stuff are like I think white people don't realize,

894
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: like a ball like this employment is like a ball

895
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: y'all got, and you pass it around to people that

896
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: you already have been making eye contact with. So the

897
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: ball only gets passed around to people you already know,

898
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: and then there are people trying to get in the game,

899
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: and how the fund do I catch this ball? And

900
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, So I'm gonna need to get near

901
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: this person who's in the game. Uh, they will know

902
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: who I am, and then now I at least they

903
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: know who I am, and that that's there's a chance

904
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: the ball could come my way. And the problem is,

905
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: like you're saying, Kevin, it's all fear based because if

906
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: they just took what's odd is like to someone who's

907
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: getting hiring someone, it's like it's a risk to you know,

908
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: maybe go out there and someone you don't know, but

909
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what you're the chances of you finding someone

910
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: really good are much higher than just settling on someone

911
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about. And it's the same

912
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: thing with the ideas the movies suck because it's ideas

913
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: like from the business standpoint of the film industry, don't

914
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: have to worry about it's not like a risk. But

915
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: all this ship is like not entertaining anymore. And now

916
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: we're like, fuck you, bro, just watch Korean movies. Then

917
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: like at least they're doing some shit like and not

918
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: just like racing and repeating stuff. It's like and that,

919
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: and they're not even seeing the benefit of being like, dude,

920
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: do something different, like it's gonna it will naturally energize things.

921
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, it will be stagnant if you just continue

922
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: to stay in your comfort zone. I mean, and that

923
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: isn't that's beyond just your business practice, is just a

924
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: way of living too, you know, like you need to

925
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: go outside of what you know to truly begin to

926
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: like build your world of experience and try and see

927
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: things differently. Otherwise, Yeah, you're just playing yourself because you're

928
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: looking at the same fucking stuckle wall all day. That's

929
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: that's the world. Yeah, and it kind of makes everyone

930
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: a victim of that stuff too, because in a way,

931
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: like white people become like not as much of a victim,

932
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: but a victim of it by their own like always

933
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: just being like trapped in this morass of mediocrity by

934
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: not ever wanting to get out of that zone. And

935
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: I think, and I think, especially in creative environment, decision

936
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: makers rob themselves of a lot of excellence and potential

937
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: from the and and just even yeah, when you when

938
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: you miss out on people like that who aren't part

939
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: of the normal, you know, like comedy guys sort goal,

940
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: where like I feel like that's every like most writer's rooms.

941
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: And then just take the chance you're gonna something new,

942
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: will happen, would will already be energizing, and if you're

943
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: hiring then like, you don't that it's I don't know,

944
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: it just seems so easy. But again, we were running

945
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: these examples where companies are like, and we're gonna do

946
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: the right thing now. It's like that could have been

947
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: done so long ago, and it really wasn't that hard,

948
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: aside from the fact that you just agreed now that

949
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: it's bad, yeah exactly. I mean they're choosing third degree

950
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: racism over you know, actual like success. They have to

951
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: because the like it will make your company better. Studies

952
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: have found that people who are with people like themselves

953
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: in a group like problem solving setting have a higher

954
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: degree of confidence in you know, the answer they come

955
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: to or the solution they come to, and a lower

956
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: level of success. And I think that's like, just keep

957
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: that in mind. It's going to be comfortable and more

958
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: mediocre if you are just like working with and hiring

959
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: people who are like yourself. It's just gonna be you

960
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be like, yeah, yeah, totally, this is

961
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: we nailed it, and you're gonna be wrong. Right, All right,

962
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back,

963
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: and we're back real quick. I don't think we got

964
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: a chance to talk about They looked at the security tape,

965
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: they checked the receipts on that cop who uh said

966
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: there was a tampon place as uh frappuccino uh, and

967
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing that that didn't happen. Um, So it seems

968
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: like the police are really out of touch with the

969
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: wonders of video, like they're that was not real. I

970
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: thought the tampon bab fucking near with his flo paccino

971
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: was the real story and that's not. Oh god, then

972
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: who so are people being mean two cops? I don't

973
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: get it. It's all these stories are so incredible because

974
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: it is watching like watching law enforcement officials essentially right

975
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: fan fake of their own persecution in real time is

976
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: an incredible exercise to see, Okay, what would be the

977
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: most egregious Why guess a tampon? What would a guy

978
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: like me get it? I guess I would get a

979
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: frappuccino place and like just kind of the A two

980
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: B two see and and you know, historically, um, Starbucks

981
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: has uh less we forget has perpetuated a lot of

982
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: fake anti police violence when the when the young lady

983
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: wrote pig on the guy's cup exactly self harm? You know,

984
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: is this self harm? They're truly just a vile group,

985
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, and then when you

986
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: look broadly at the conservative movement against Starbucks killing Christmas

987
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: with their like not putting crosses on their Christmas cups,

988
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: it's it's like a lesser version of that, but it's

989
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: still the same sort of idea that like you can

990
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: get everybody outraged by claiming Starbucks is attacking you. Yeah, well,

991
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: I have like the morals to actually follow through on

992
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: any of like their supposed boycotts or anything, because at

993
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, their their brains are fully

994
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: fucked off consumer culture. Like there's no way that they're like, Yeah,

995
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I've really thought about my place in

996
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: this consumer cycle, and actually giving my money to Starbucks

997
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: isn't what I want. Aside from them destroying Christmas, I

998
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: just think as an enterprise, it's probably not a good

999
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: idea for me to participate. It's not that's not what

1000
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: it is. It's just pump faking. That's all these people do,

1001
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: just a pump fake. I'm I won't go Okay, then

1002
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: don't fuck you. We're doing the same thing. And watch

1003
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: they still go and they shut the funk up, and

1004
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: now they're just well, not alright, pig on my own cup. Okay, idiot,

1005
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: you're still here and you gave them your money. Fucking dummy.

1006
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Now we're getting this news in just now, but from

1007
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: the at Starbucks official account, they've announced that the new

1008
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: holiday cups will be cops on their cups. They're gonna

1009
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: put cops in stand outfits on their holiday cups, making

1010
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: everybody happy. Oh man, just saying, pop pop po down

1011
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: the Let's talk about Kristen Bell and Jenny Slate. Uh.

1012
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: They have subbed themselves out as performers because they were

1013
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: voicing persons of color on Big Mouth and Central Park respectively.

1014
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah so I mean great, great, Hey make space. That's

1015
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: that's great. They took a second. Their statements were like, yeah,

1016
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: when I just, you know, the last month, just trying

1017
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: to think of how I may have participated any kind

1018
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: of racism or kept people out of a job or something,

1019
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: I realize it's I'm playing a half black actor, and yes,

1020
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: the character is half white, and I am white, and

1021
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: then that could be my half and then That's why

1022
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: it's okay, is what I told myself. But then I

1023
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: realized it was black erasure, and I was also taking

1024
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: up the spot for someone else who could be having

1025
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: a nice income as a voice over actor, because Jenny

1026
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Slate and Kristen Bell are not struggling at all. They

1027
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: are I know, Kristen Bell is a very kind landlord.

1028
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling they you know, they're they're

1029
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: doing the right thing, because that's precisely they they're looking

1030
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: at it and making that decision. But this is like

1031
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: the easy stuff too. It's almost like, yeah, you could

1032
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: these you know, people of color can also do voice acting.

1033
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: And there was a few articles showing how there are

1034
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: a few like white voice actors who are voicing characters

1035
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: who are not white, and just sort of like, yeah,

1036
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: this is like a thing that we can also talk about.

1037
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: But then it kicks off the whole fucking Darth Vader

1038
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: discussion with people on the right. The recency of these

1039
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: of these voices, too, is what makes it funny. I

1040
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: feel like Chris and Bell with the you know, Everyone's

1041
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: purple or whatever that kid's books she she put out

1042
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: aple weeks ago. I think we're getting more of a

1043
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: clear sense of where her and Dax might fall on

1044
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: certain Yeah, but that central part came out like two

1045
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's not like it's surely not like you

1046
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: know the first thing. Yes, Like it's not like even

1047
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: even in Scribes or thirty Rock where it's like it

1048
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: was fifteen years ago on blah blah blah. But it's

1049
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: like Central Park came out on Apple TV plus two

1050
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago and they're like, oh, you know, upon further inspection.

1051
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: The thing with with both of those cases is I

1052
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: feel like the instant Hanks Area says, you know what,

1053
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a poo anymore that I feel like

1054
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: just should be. That's it, Like it's game over for

1055
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: is this writer like I don't know, and it's a

1056
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: complicated quitch like Hank is Area who got grandfathered in

1057
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: from a much more racist time and I'm probably much

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Speaker 1: more racist writing staff. He's saying no to it in

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Speaker 1: response to like legitimate criticism, So why would it ever

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Speaker 1: be Okaya as Arias said he's done. In February, he

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Speaker 1: said he was done doing a pooh. Yeah, that's why,

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, you're saying if okay, God, I'm confused

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00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: once he says he's done, like everybody else should like

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00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: that should have been a wave. It should have been

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Speaker 1: like there should have been a cascade of press releases

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Speaker 1: of like oh ship, yeah, is Aias not doing that?

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Speaker 1: That's like that example everyone has in the back of

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Speaker 1: their mind. They're like, well, you know, Hanker z Aria

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Speaker 1: does that pool, So it's not hard exactly. It's an

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Speaker 1: example that gives permission. And even on a woke as

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00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: health show like BoJack Horseman where Alson Bree is playing

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Speaker 1: an Asian character, like, it's just everyone's given. Everyone's given

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Speaker 1: each other permission in these teeny tiny little ways. Guys,

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Speaker 1: let's check in with the Netflix top ten real quick

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Speaker 1: Altered Carbon season two. Oh, I hope it's still up there.

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: So we skipped last week and the Netflix Top ten

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: went wild in the meantime. Uh, we've got some new entries,

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Speaker 1: so three sixty five days still still they're still in

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Speaker 1: the top four. Uh. For most of last week, I

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Speaker 1: noticed it was at number one, So America stays horny.

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: Uh to the point that number six is that uh

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Speaker 1: the full porno that Carl and I were talking about.

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01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: That's like, I don't know it's actual people having actual

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: sex on camera, but it's wrapped in like a moody

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: European film. It's from the guy who made Enter the Void. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, But so that that broke into the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Let's see the Flora's lava. What do we know about

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: the Floora's lava other than I know a friend of

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: mine is on episode nine and I did enjoy watching

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Speaker 1: her cross Oh it's a fucking obstacle course show. Okay,

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean I like obstacle core shows. You know, shout

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Speaker 1: out to Japanese culture. You know, we see you take

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01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: we stee you see we see you stealing the culture.

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I like the thing that Jamie tweeted

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Speaker 1: yesterday about nut Job. At the time of her tweet,

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Speaker 1: it was number four and she was like, America, let's

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Speaker 1: unpack this, um because yeah, I wonder I know nut

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Speaker 1: Job is going to be some kind of just absolutely bizarre,

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Speaker 1: tone deaf animated thing. Uh we've already seen this off

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Speaker 1: corn Yeah, two thousand fourteen three D computer animated heist

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01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: comedy where they're stealing it's I think squirrels stealing nuts.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Will Arnette Brendan Fraser and Gabrielle Iglesias. Fluffy himself.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. I we haven't done.

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Speaker 1: I mean Flora's Lava is like definitely departure from scripted

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01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: things we have been assessing. But when we have number one,

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01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: it's been number one, and then yeah, maybe that I think,

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01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: then maybe we just need to understand why because when

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Speaker 1: three six five Dennis was number one, we we had

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Speaker 1: to go boldly into that softcore. So yeah, oh this

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Speaker 1: bullet is basically French, fast and furious. You should definitely

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01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: watch three sixty five Days. It's a it's a cinematic biz.

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: It's so fucking off the rails with its like lack

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Speaker 1: of acknowledging consent and like what it means to be

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01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: in a relationship or what love is. Like so many

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: times you're like, oh my god, he grabbed this woman

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01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: by her neck and then made out with her and

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01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: she's like, all right, I'll stay. You're right, Why it

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Speaker 1: out with her with his wiener? Oh well not that well,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's not that's what we're talking about. Off

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Speaker 1: the rip, the uh ten thousand foot altitude of Fallacio scene,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of head in

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: that movie, a lot ahead. Well, a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: asked me to watch it in life text her while

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Speaker 1: I was doing it, So maybe I'll do that tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can really imagine it. I was constantly

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Speaker 1: like about to pass out because I could not believe

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Speaker 1: that this is a thing that many Americans were like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty cool that Jeff Dunham is one of the voices

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Speaker 1: in The nut Job. No, he's not Lena's brother. I

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Speaker 1: love We never talked about that nepotistic ride. She took

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Speaker 1: hon to the talk. I know she you know her

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01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: fortune is built on puppet culture. Yeah, racist puppet culture.

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: But her whole career was her showing up at parties

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Speaker 1: with like New York Times writers and being adorable when

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: she was like seven years old because her parents were

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01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: like society people. Well yeah, and then you're like, hi, David,

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: maman's daughter being my thing too, so that nobody will

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: be able to say no to this show. And then hello,

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: Brian Williams daughter come being my right. This is a

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01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: bunch of that. They should have not They should have

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01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: called it instead of girls, they should have called it daughters.

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01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: Someone's daughters. That's the thing we were talking about the

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01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: other day of just Again, how like the industry works.

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01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: Like even in l A, all the celebrity kids, producer kids,

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01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: exact kids, they go to one of three high schools,

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: and then all the films end up coming out of

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01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: alumni of these schools, and you're like, I almost like, Okay,

1148
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: where'd you go to? Harvard west Lake A crossroads? Time

1149
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: to abolish high school? Thank you, You're welcome home. Yeah,

1150
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: just just PC learning just the Yeah, I was on

1151
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: school and I turned out great, fantastic The nut Job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I have to watch The nut Job

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: because as I was watching the preview, I was also, uh,

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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with my sons and they were

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: laughing uproariously. I just don't know, is it too do

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: I want to expose them to this. I feel like

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01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: it's probably not good. I've already polluted their brands with

1158
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: Trolls World Tour. You do the woke dad thing like

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01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: where you're watching the problematic movie and you pause and

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01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: you're like, let me explain what's happening here, son, What

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to tell you, what they're trying to indoctrinate you?

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01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: With okay, because this is already trying to put you

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: on the rat race where you're trying to attain in

1164
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: this case acorns. But we call them dollars out here

1165
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: because we are living in a system. And then they're like,

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: they just start crying because they want to watch the cards. See,

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Speaker 1: this is why I can never have children, because I

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: don't want to do John Oliver explainers every two year,

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Speaker 1: iome welcome, and if you think wackos accent is inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: it's because it is. Guys are really good, John, I

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Speaker 1: can only do welcome, welcome, welcome, Well, fuck you, Helen,

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Speaker 1: you knew I wasn't going to be in the break room.

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: Does anyone have a John Oliver like non sequiturs Twitter

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: account that are just like just out of context lines

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01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: that you would believe it would be like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going I'm not coming to the break room to sing.

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Speaker 1: No that that'd be cool though, Oh we love Sazo,

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Speaker 1: we stand yeah. Oh wait before we get there, do

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Speaker 1: we decide it's nut job or Flora's lava? Nut Job?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the nut job. You're gonna watch the

1181
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: Floora's lava because I actually every time you watch a

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: kids movie. For this you come back with like a

1183
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: fucking you look so deep into the matrix of the film.

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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: I get like stressed out where I'm like, I'm an

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 1: idiot because this guy is like, yeah, I mean I

1186
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: don't know what they're actually trying to say about this

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: genre of music controls. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is good. I have this guy on the kid movie.

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Speaker 1: I would recommend Flora's Lava. I I enjoyed what I watched.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going all right, so Floria's Lava and

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: nut Job. Do do you listen or whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to land on for Monday? Kevin, it's been a pleasure

1193
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you, follow you, enjoy you.

1194
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: You can follow me at Kevin t Porter everywhere. You

1195
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: can listen to my podcasts Inside Voices are good Christian

1196
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: fun wherever you get your pods. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: peep me on Letterbox. We're all on letter box now right,

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Speaker 1: moviewing our movies, showing our histories, making our lists. What

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Speaker 1: a fun time? Uh? And is there a tweet or

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: you know what in in in preparation for this. I

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Speaker 1: did find a tweet that loud from at auto O

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Speaker 1: t t O Fernandez. He tweeted, I'm not b I

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Speaker 1: p OC, I'm o J. I thought it was free

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Speaker 1: terrific tet miles where can people find you and follow you?

1206
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: And what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram Miles

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Speaker 1: of gray Also my other podcast for twenty day Fiance.

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Speaker 1: If you like pop in it's a ride, It is

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Speaker 1: a ride. Um, okay, let's see a tweet that I like.

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Speaker 1: This one is from at we Are More Amara. It says,

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Speaker 1: are there any black owned planets I can move to? Uh?

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: And what else is there? Another one is from at

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Speaker 1: Ben Meckler says, is it all millennials that can attach

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Speaker 1: every formative sexual experience in their life to a DVD

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01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: menu that was playing on repeat in the background? Or

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Speaker 1: are we a micro generation? Um? Some tweets I've been

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Speaker 1: enjoying at speech Leash tweeted writing about US food the

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Speaker 1: way The New York Times covers Asian fruit in a

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Speaker 1: nation torn by racial conflict, One unlikely food unites to

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Speaker 1: those accustomed to chopsticks, The greasy part soll known as

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: a burger a sort of split bow. Is crude and messy,

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: yet it encapsulates a nation's violent past, uh, which I

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01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: thought was perfect. And then Dan Johnson tweeted, Hi, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Chuck e Cheese. Everything is visibly dirty and our

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Speaker 1: mascot as a rat eat some pizza near a sneezing child.

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Speaker 1: Come on down for some rat pizza at our child casino.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Bryan.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1230
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where

1231
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnote we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on miles

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Speaker 1: What's that going to be? This is a track from

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01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: a group called Dumbo Gets Mad uh and they are

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: very interesting group. Uh and I this is the first

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: time I heard of this group. It's a like a

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Speaker 1: Itali in band, but they started playing around l A

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and they have a very

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01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: like psychedelic psych pop disco feel and like they kind

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 1: of record the tape so it feels almost like very

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Speaker 1: old school, but the rhythms are good, Like this one

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: has a very great samba beat to it and it's

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Speaker 1: called makes You Fly. So this is a great This

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Speaker 1: is just a great one to take into the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh one other thing I do want to say this weekend,

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Speaker 1: if you are interested in really fantastic visual art, I

1248
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: have to recommend that there is a forty eight hour

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: stream of this piece by this artist, Arthur Joppa. It's

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: called Love is the Message. The message is Death, and

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: he's a really amazing artist. It's like this, it's it's

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: a thing you could only watch in museums prior to

1253
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, the last month with everything going on, and

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01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: it's this. You know, it's a lot of found and

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01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: original footage that is described as you know, the it's

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: exploring the Black American experience and it's a very very

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: powerful piece and it's like stream anywhere. Um. A few,

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: like different museums are streaming this just for this weekend. UM.

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Speaker 1: And he's an incredible artist from Tupelo, Mississippi. But search

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Speaker 1: for Arthur jafas Uh. Love is the Message, the messages death.

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: It's a very very powerful piece that is absolutely recommended viewing.

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Speaker 1: If you are so inclined to engage with material like that,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you will, how long you do? It's

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Speaker 1: not that long. It's not like a full on yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a it's a shorter piece. I

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Speaker 1: want to I can't definitely, not like an hour or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. I thought you said it was forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours more. Oh no, no, they're all they're playing

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Speaker 1: it forty eight hours. It's being streamed for forty eight

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Speaker 1: hours this weekend from today Friday up. More manageable? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Party then I feel fiction. Cannot let things that can't

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Speaker 1: get me upset. I can't really do this thing. Pleased

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Speaker 1: to do h