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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John And this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. Let's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all which one?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? Hey? Hey, Hey? What is up? Cut to it? Fam?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? What up? What up? What up? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get straight into it. Backstage, Joe, what's up? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>It's going on? Fellas. Okay, we had an unbelievable weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't we. Yes, we did. We played golf this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to cut to an invitational. Yes, none of us made

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<v Speaker 1>the cut. We only made it the saturday. We got

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<v Speaker 1>that green ribbon, that participation award. All right. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>driving back, um from from a little golf off trip

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about a four hour drive. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say where we were. We don't want to lose them anymore. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>beach folks that we are. We lost the Myrtle Beach folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to keep. We don't want to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>streets the coast. So driving back and four hour drive,

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<v Speaker 1>so we about two hours in, it's like, hey, let's stop, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>grab something. What's anybody wants? So you know you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, and you know how these when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>a road trip, got a few options. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>few options, right, They all pretty much the same. So

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<v Speaker 1>go through a drive through, go through a drive through, going,

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<v Speaker 1>go through line, go through the line. So we order

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to such and such. Man help you. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving os there, geez there, and they all rattled off

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<v Speaker 1>one by one what they want. So I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like this combo? What else? What else? Joe says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take a sound interrupting. Then after Joe says that

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<v Speaker 1>gerald interrupting or is the exact same thing as a

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<v Speaker 1>comb made it easy. We should have known it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go a straight because the second you gotta sell.

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<v Speaker 1>But what else? Yeah? I would I would like what else?

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<v Speaker 1>And also what else? What kind of sort? That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it went. So, thank you. Here's my Here is my amount.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was struggle when you pulled around four total.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my total. Drive up. I had a girl

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<v Speaker 1>tend the five easy easy cash transaction easy cash. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write this out because I had to rethink

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<v Speaker 1>it when I did the transaction. Let's back in. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>back into that maths at ten and the five okay,

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<v Speaker 1>one on one canceled out? Four cannot go in to five?

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<v Speaker 1>Old school. I got to yeah, I have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we already are separating in which we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how math is introduced. It is continue with

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<v Speaker 1>the story, all right, because I'm doing this math or

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<v Speaker 1>the four zero came not make that that canceled out

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<v Speaker 1>to zero nine? Bang, make that zero attend ten minus

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<v Speaker 1>one is nine nine cents. Now I knew this. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew this, but I'm doing it the second day. This

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<v Speaker 1>happened yesterday, second day in case maybe I misjudged her

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<v Speaker 1>calculating skills, because let me tell you, she used a

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<v Speaker 1>calculator on her phone. So she comes back after I

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<v Speaker 1>handed the money, she comes back and says, you got

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one cents. But to be fair, first she turned

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<v Speaker 1>her back on us once you hand her the money,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we were just staring at it, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a showdown. Because I looked at him, said,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope she would give you my change? Why change

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<v Speaker 1>important to me? I'm a change guy. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>have to change, and then I take it home, put

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<v Speaker 1>in my change, and then every six months I cash

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<v Speaker 1>it and I put into dollars. Listen, I'm a change counter.

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<v Speaker 1>I pick up change off the But what what was

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<v Speaker 1>the change that she gave you? Was that she gave

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<v Speaker 1>She gave me three cents? Three? So we just after

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<v Speaker 1>I said, uh, can I get a change? She goes,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're back into this math already sidetrack Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. She goes, you're gonna give me a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one cent? I said it, excuse me, I gave you?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you actually owe me? How much change do

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<v Speaker 1>you owe me? Then she brings out the calculator. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she gives me three cents, And I said, because when

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<v Speaker 1>she gave it to me, I was like, are they

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<v Speaker 1>giving up? So? Are they giving our big coins? Does this?

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is a podcast, but not only did

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<v Speaker 1>she give us three cents wrong, she finger rolled it

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<v Speaker 1>right in just Steve's hands to like with the attitude

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<v Speaker 1>like here's your three cents. And so I called it

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, hold on, and so I told

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<v Speaker 1>her not aggressively. I said, in my mind, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>all right, don't be rude, don't be rude, don't be rude.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, uh, how much change were you supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>give me? She goes, huh. First of all, if you

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<v Speaker 1>hung you can hear. That's how my mama told me. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, how much change are you supposed to get me?

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you fifteen? How much was it? She could

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<v Speaker 1>not do it? So then she brings out so she

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<v Speaker 1>turns her back, but she didn't turn her back quick

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<v Speaker 1>enough as she was busting out her iPhone with a

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<v Speaker 1>pink case to do the calculation. And so she was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how dog. She used her calculator and still got her wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>She did not know how much change to give me,

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<v Speaker 1>No no clue. So then she gives me. She finger

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<v Speaker 1>rolls me to change. Luckily. Luck luckily, I'm such a

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<v Speaker 1>profound athlete. I called all of it. It's like slight flags.

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<v Speaker 1>So I catch it right, and then I'm like, can

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<v Speaker 1>I get two straws please? So she gives me the

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<v Speaker 1>straws as if like here child be gone gives me

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<v Speaker 1>she gives me the change, we get the food. I

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<v Speaker 1>drive you hot. He was fired up just right, So

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<v Speaker 1>then I drive off. I get on and I no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe didn't, I said, hold on, damn it. She got me.

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<v Speaker 1>She forgot joe sandwich. She didn't even give us the

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<v Speaker 1>right food, broke it. So here's what I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>took two French fries to take my supplement, and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>ate my lunch because he didn't have a meal. I

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<v Speaker 1>was no longer mad. He was mad. You know why

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<v Speaker 1>I was mad? Do you know why I was mad?

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<v Speaker 1>In likeness? Because all of that nonsense that she did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on her. It wasn't my fault. She couldn't count.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't my fault. It was it wasn't my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>She you need her iPhone to count up what I

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<v Speaker 1>did on a piece of paper, and then she gets

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<v Speaker 1>mad at me and stess me my sandwich. But guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, I cleaned up my car when I got home,

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what I found my receipt with the store number.

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<v Speaker 1>Because guess who's gonna get a free meal? Guess who's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get it free? I am? I am. Come make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you had an extra chicken sandwich on that for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting the whole damn meal. I'm emailing look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna email such and such dot com because one,

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<v Speaker 1>I need employees that can count or at least read

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<v Speaker 1>the cash register. I mean he's right there, for it

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<v Speaker 1>does all. I've worked in fast food. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is not Steve's trying to be all high in

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<v Speaker 1>my this. I'm I want to t integral part of

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<v Speaker 1>your story. Yes, I worked to Taco Bell. You have

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<v Speaker 1>you have papers, you have calculators, and you got that

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<v Speaker 1>big old register that has all the menus. It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And then maybe she was color blind. Possibly that could be,

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<v Speaker 1>but no shade to the color blind listeners. Correct whatever. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna get me a free I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole meal free. Do you fire the place up? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want my free mel I just want my

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich that I paid for that she didn't get me.

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<v Speaker 1>Who we got our guest today, Quincy a none Wa

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<v Speaker 1>drafted out of Nebraska. He spent his five years with

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Jets and really an all around stand

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<v Speaker 1>up guy advocate for mental health. Quincy Anne One Quincy

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. You're gonna take part and get iced up smarty.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead with the first one. All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go with an easy one. Uh. Favorite cartoon

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<v Speaker 1>growing up? Oh? Man, favorite cartoon. There's so many Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I never I never saw that show. It's so many

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<v Speaker 1>five man. I mean, look, I probably aided myself, man, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but the last one I just saw that

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered because it was on I think my messages

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<v Speaker 1>like Powder Family, and that brought me back. But then

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<v Speaker 1>if I go way back, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it was like a Black Family Nickelodeon

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<v Speaker 1>was on Nickelodeon. It was something like that. Man, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's here's a good one too. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>sent a text message to the wrong person? Uh? Multiple times? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I got anxiety just thinking about man multiple times. And

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part is now. And whenever you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you send a text, youre always like real cautious,

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<v Speaker 1>like you gotta make sure, okay, that's the right sender,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure you're not sending to the wrong person again.

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<v Speaker 1>I've sent a text to my wife who Aim is

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<v Speaker 1>Ace in my phone? Angie Ace two? You know him? Adam? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is right underneath. Yeah, and there was a husband

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<v Speaker 1>and wife. I was gonna say, I've done it in reverse.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a husband and wife like, hey, I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the way home. Yeah, I got the food. And Adam

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<v Speaker 1>goes in the text Man, that school Steve, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to know what you and an you

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<v Speaker 1>got played stomach sense to your feet done? Bro? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like no, oh, but at first I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hot. Yeah that wife didn't reply. I'm like that

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<v Speaker 1>you were married. Boom. You know, I mean they need like,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to recall, they need a recall, right, dinner

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<v Speaker 1>back back, you know, I set it up. You know you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course you don't know this, like, but

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<v Speaker 1>light skin, you know how we do it. Bro. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Adam so embarrassing. And then a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks it happened to be about a month later, me

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<v Speaker 1>and Adam got together. We had a business thing and

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<v Speaker 1>he brought it up. Uh so no lunch. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, last one and then we're gonna jump

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<v Speaker 1>right into your story. Who you are. If you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a rule for a day and everyone had to follow,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be? Oh? Man, if I could make

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<v Speaker 1>a rule for a day and everyone had to follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>Be real on social media, man, he real on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep that same energy later on. Let's cut right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's hear your story. But I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>this out of the way just immediately, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in journalism now and i'm journalists, I'm a media guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have always struggled with I'm gonna call you Quincy,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want to know. We want you to pronunciate

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<v Speaker 1>M and also explain your full name, your govern name,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody knows you as Quincy. Some people butcher it,

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<v Speaker 1>but really, just what's the what is the meaning behind

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<v Speaker 1>the name and all that stuff? All right? I got you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So my actual government name is on the chest,

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<v Speaker 1>Quincy and new right. So I just had my first

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<v Speaker 1>name on the chest, okay, and it's O n O

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<v Speaker 1>C h I E. And it's an evil named Nigerian.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents are from Nigeria. Um and uh it means

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<v Speaker 1>the replacement. It's like Junior, the real so the real

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<v Speaker 1>meaning of his replacement. But it's just Blake me like Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad named me after my grandpa, so he died

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<v Speaker 1>a year before I was born. And so they named

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<v Speaker 1>me that. My parents were both from Nigeria. My dad came, um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like eight to ten years before I was born,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom actually came like a month a month

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<v Speaker 1>before I was born. So that's probably not even safe

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<v Speaker 1>at all, right, Um, and they're both from Nigeria. UM

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<v Speaker 1>brought me up in the culture all of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was wearing it. Got c keis. I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>all of that when I was going up. They came

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<v Speaker 1>over here, and I'm I'm trying to dump it down

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. I won't that journey, Yeah, the transportation, the

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<v Speaker 1>journey of how they got here if if you even know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how they got here, whether they come from

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<v Speaker 1>they both of My dad flew and he came here

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<v Speaker 1>first and went to school. And when my mom flew

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<v Speaker 1>with me, watching was pregnant. She actually so she was

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<v Speaker 1>so pregnant, her stomach was so big for bully is

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<v Speaker 1>so big that he had a doctor, a doctor write

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<v Speaker 1>a note, Um, I said that he was holding twins

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<v Speaker 1>when actually she was just like eight months pregnant. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know whatever it takes, right, yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>that uh so she came and had me. UM and

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<v Speaker 1>then she went and got her nurse and degree, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad he got it bigest degree and he started

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<v Speaker 1>working at Walmart. Um and he was like a store

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<v Speaker 1>manager for a really long time. From Walmart. He dropped

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<v Speaker 1>Walmart and became an entrepreneur. Now he owns like two

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<v Speaker 1>stories to like mailing stories in uh Southern can American

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<v Speaker 1>dream right there. Honestly, they did whatever they could to

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<v Speaker 1>get me over here, and they they've been working hard

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. How many other siblings are you the oldest youngest? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's me and then my two younger sisters. Um

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<v Speaker 1>one is twenty six. The other one now I think

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<v Speaker 1>she is. That's when you know, you know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>think about people got that, got that brother? You know

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes that's the slips of mind a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that really. And so you're growing up, you saying

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing Dashiki's you're from from? I can take it

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing who you are, your culture mm hmm exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up you know in in southern Californi, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of there's a ton of cultures there. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't a lot of brothers walking around. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming pretty interesting at first because outside of your

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<v Speaker 1>home it was normal. Yeah, but then you're inside of

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<v Speaker 1>your home is normal. Outside of your home, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>got some looks and and and I'm assuming yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you know, we weren't wins every day, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they was still still part of us. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we reward um done Evans and stuff like that. But overall,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say, you know, Especi back then, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had the jokes and everything, African booty Scratcher, all those

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<v Speaker 1>different duffs that people would tell, Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. So you know you've got those jokes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really um for me, you know. And then on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that, you know, people didn't really take the time

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<v Speaker 1>to really pronounce my name correctly. That was actually part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason why I went up my middle name,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it felt as though people try to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of wash away in my culture and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I just kind of fell into that, right like

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<v Speaker 1>by going by Quincy and then just accepting that that's

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<v Speaker 1>my name. Um, but uh, yeah, it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was definitely like it was an interesting, um, interesting childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting growth pattern you know, to be uh Nigerian amongst

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people from different cultures, but mainly just

0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you know black culture making culture like that's really good

0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.159
<v Speaker 1>dominie um and where I was growing up, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think in order to kind of assimilate, right, Um, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, well, let me go by my Englishman

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>name inside your house and I've got some friends who

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<v Speaker 1>are who are Nigerian inside your house. What's the what's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the pressure of what's the experience of having Nigerian

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<v Speaker 1>parents while you're in the US, what's take us on

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<v Speaker 1>that journey? Yeah, well the biggest one is education. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a big pushon on education, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know, they brought us here essentially, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so they want us to take advantage of every every

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<v Speaker 1>benefit that we can get being in this country. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, growing up, we we you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to get the good grades. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that if we were doing sports, that

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<v Speaker 1>we were also still excelling in school. You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, any every parent is like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if I'm just speaking on my experience

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<v Speaker 1>on that, you know, they really pushed that we have

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<v Speaker 1>questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast dot com. So growing up in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>how did those two worlds Nigerian in Los Angeles in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, How did that shape and impact your view

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<v Speaker 1>on the world because you had two different views and

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<v Speaker 1>as adult you will probably you can say it was

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<v Speaker 1>an advantage, but as a child probably saw it as

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<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>actually we were maybe like forty five two or an

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<v Speaker 1>hour Marino Valleys is where I grew up, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>about uh maybe an hour east uh down a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three way. But it's it's it's essentially, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people came from lady to go living me

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<v Speaker 1>about so it was, it was. It was definitely an interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know upbringing. You know, just at least you see

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things. Um, but I think party. What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's funny is that, you know, my parents kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shielded me from a lot of things. They took me

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<v Speaker 1>in in the private school. You know, so for a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of my pilor, I was in a private school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so there was a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see until I tried to go in the

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<v Speaker 1>Polst school and man, my life got flipped up. So

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<v Speaker 1>in what way do you do? Tail do? You can't

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<v Speaker 1>just leave us there? I know, I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, private school is a different lightstyle. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's um, there's no really way to explain it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So when you go to public school, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get you get a real taste, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what helped me a lot was just the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I was playing um kitty ball, you know, football,

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<v Speaker 1>so I gotta I got you know, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>see you know, different ways people, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>acting it stuff. But you know, when I got to

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<v Speaker 1>high school, that's when I really started to see you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh up close to like game culture and all types

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<v Speaker 1>of other things that I you know, you see on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't until I was acting the school and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing stuff. I was like, bro, where am I at?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you would shield it in a way

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<v Speaker 1>in private school? Oh? Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you people talked about it, but nobody was really about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that shield? Do you believe was that shield enough

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<v Speaker 1>for you at that moment? So when you got to

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<v Speaker 1>public school you had to you had enough wherewithal to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to separate yourself or at least be hesitant

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<v Speaker 1>and not jump all in immediately. Yeah. I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think when I see other people's stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a difference. So I can't say that

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the blueprint. But I think for myself

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<v Speaker 1>it was helpful. You know, I kind of I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of already had a lot of discipline and part of

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<v Speaker 1>the money came mainly for my parents, but also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from being at school. I think that that helped me

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't know if I do anything to

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<v Speaker 1>my keys. But you know, I'm just speaking on my

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<v Speaker 1>own experience. So you're saying you wouldn't do it for

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<v Speaker 1>your kids, meaning you wouldn't I wouldn't put it in

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<v Speaker 1>private school. Uh, other than the money I heard that

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<v Speaker 1>heard that money, you know, retired retired flare to mine

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<v Speaker 1>go to private school, you got look at that. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is my thing. My my private school wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a big private school, or I could have gone there

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<v Speaker 1>and they went to college and play ball there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no chance of me being looked at. So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's private school experience is different. The woman I was

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<v Speaker 1>at was not going to help me get to where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at now. So that's actually why I went to

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<v Speaker 1>public schools because you know, everybody knew I had the talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't in the ginningywhere being in a school.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say, if it's a private school that can

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<v Speaker 1>you know you can go to and still make it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>then I might put them in me. But the route

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<v Speaker 1>that I took, I wouldn't see that my kids. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking just from a sports related understanding. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>journey of trying to give your child if they pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a professional or collegiate career. This helps them based on

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<v Speaker 1>your your own experience exactly. Man, So you're in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're at public school. Now you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the real life. M h. When did you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>in playing in high school that you felt I can

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<v Speaker 1>possibly go to college and and participate in football at

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<v Speaker 1>that level Division one. Yeah. Uh, when I first got there,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a struggle. You know, Like I said before

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<v Speaker 1>that the school that I was at, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew the thing that I was talented. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to a level where everybody was talented, really talented.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first couple of years, you know, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the flashes, so you know, they put me out there,

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<v Speaker 1>they saw me scored some touchdowns and knew I could play,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was it was inconsistent. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was until my senior year where I put it

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<v Speaker 1>off together and that's when I started to get the

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<v Speaker 1>offers and uh, you know, people started to really see that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can make it to cause and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I really started to believe it. You're probably being

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>looked at it you play football, not soccer. Mm hmm. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is funny. So I played soccer, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>then really I probably wouldn't continue to play soccer. And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, when I was coming up, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>good friends he uh introduced me to Madden. So I

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<v Speaker 1>went over to a child and started playing Madden. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what I was doing right until I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I scored a touchdown luckily, and uh, I

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do next, so I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. He had me punt the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>say kick a field goal. I was exactly so you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look you didn't even know the rules of football

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing mad. No, I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. Well, you know he didn't know because he

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>slipped that in. This is what he was in, and

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I let slide. I know football. I went over to

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<v Speaker 1>my friend's house to play, because let's play the there. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not jarring. J'all play no games in the house. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Do those games are for those American kids who are lazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Go get a book, read a book, Am I correct? Yeah? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we we took it to the library like every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I got not Lewis I know more people say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh show it was It was funny I mean, you know,

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they try to they try to put us to uh

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But in terms of the video game, Yeah,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>so I went over there and that honestly, that's been

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>my motivation from at the beginning. Man. Every time, every

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>time I think back about how I started from football,

0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I just supposed remember that story and I got any

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<v Speaker 1>pop Winner. I was playing pop Winner and from there,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's where I just kind of took off.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>But I was playing soccer for a pretty long time. First,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>what position did you play? Oh? I can't even tell you, man,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>because I started playing football and fourth or fifth grade,

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>so um, maybe forward. I played goalie for a little bit.

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I played goalie for a real for a minute. I

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was really all over the field. Honestly. They just kind

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:28.199
<v Speaker 1>of threw me out there and I was like, all right,

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>go line. So they treat you like athletes exactly. Just

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they just go out there, out run little Johnny because

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're Marino Valley, so you know you're going you know

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>what you're going up against. Yeah, Alex, right, that's that's

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:48.239
<v Speaker 1>the Marino Valley kind of It's pretty diverse. At the

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>time that you were growing up playing soccer, playing soccer

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>in Marino Valley. Now maybe diverse, but that soccer because

0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I I've experienced it here in Charlotte, Charlotte's Crazy Soccer

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>youth soccer Academy, but it ain't a lot of brothers

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines. And then the games being honest, you know,

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and we'd about we had we had the everybody moved

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 1>from l A because you know, in the nineties that's

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>when you know, black A Mexicans were fighting. We had

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>what was it l A, right, so everybody's going to

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>get out of l A. So when I was coming up,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody was moving out of l A, was moving towards

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>an Empire, Reno Valley, riverside, all those places. So really

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it was actually a lot of black people

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>about coming up playing soccer, though Mexicans. It was mexic

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>playing soccer. Na, it was soccer. That was probably the

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>first time when they said hey, bro, we're gonna call

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you Q or quincy started. It actually started. It started

0:28:55.120 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>around there. Yeah, what was the recruiting process for you specifically,

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>because we've had a few guys on here who's talked

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>about their collegiate recruiting process, it's been different for everyone else.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:14.719
<v Speaker 1>We've had Malcolm Jenkins on He's talked about he got

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 1>to Ohio State because his folks were visiting some family

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>members at Ohio and signed him and his brother up

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Um for a football camp just to give them something

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to do in the summer. M hm. So I'm I'm wondering.

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And and from there that's how you got a scholarship

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to the Ohio State. Now you gotta offer to Nebraska.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I was that process from from Marino Marino Valley, l A,

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>right forty five minutes out of l A to the

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Midwest Nebraska. I had to be interesting. Culture shock, right, Yeah.

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>It was huge. Culture side, coachure side, the weather, shock, everything. Man,

0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was a different light. I

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.239
<v Speaker 1>mean I that I was gonna do ferent plenty. She answered, you.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>When I first when I first heard in break, I

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>realdn't even know where it was at, you know, so

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>um when I got there, you know it was it

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was the first time I was there was for a game.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's what really drew me in. You know. It's

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like you don't see that type of stuff right, Like

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all in. Everybody loves football. They're like literally

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the whole state so I think, you know, it was

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>just it was just cool to see when I was

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>out there that you know, it was so much love

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>football team, so much love for the games. Sold out

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>every game they had like a three hundred games sellout.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just love ball there. What ultimately sold

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you on picking Nebraska wasn't that game? Yeah, no, the game.

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, you know, I didn't have a lot of offers.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I had like three or four, UM, and so Nebraska

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>was like one of the biggest ones. And I knew,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I went to the Braska, out of

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>all the other options I had, at least they were

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>like a winning team. Um. You know they that year,

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the year before that maybe it did a big twelve championship.

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And actually the first year I was there made the

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>big championship too, So I knew I would get more

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>exposure going there. Any well, were some of those other

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>schools if you don't mind Washington States the state was

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>another one. UM I got recruited by, like Idaho State, UM,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>like small, small, smaller schools um over on the west side,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>West Coast, UM. And then uh, for track, I gotta

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>looked at my Miami. I actually, what if I could

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I like to track a lot more? Honestly I did.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a high jumper and we did for about

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>one triple jump um, but I just didn't, you know,

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't have all the tools, so it

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out for me as well, what do you

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean to have all the tools? I

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>think if I could have had a little bit um

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>more like in depth coaching, maybe Salman House doing it,

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>like because I was sick tonight high jumpers, so I

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>felt like I could get seven, you know, but my

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>form just wasn't the best. About a month after I

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>got to Utah University of Utah, I was ready to

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>come home. I was homesick. The only thing that did

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>not the only thing that really the saving grace was

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>we were so danged poor. My mom couldn't afford uh.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>She was like, look, Steven, you can't. We don't have

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>any money because my aunt, my grandmother, the people that

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>scrounged up money to actually give me a one way

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>ticket to Utah. So I didn't, but I wanted to leave.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So with me throwing myself out there, I can't imagine.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you get homesick? Did you feel like it was

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a mistake going out there. Yeah, no, I definitely was homesick.

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Um in terms of the steak, you know, I just

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of tried to tell myself, you know, this is

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>this is what I gotta do, you know, I think,

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>um it was it was the the theme that was

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>pushed for us, you know, with the education, was that

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew that this is you know, this was the

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>step I need, whether it be for football or education

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>order for me too, you know, come back with I

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to come back with something in my head. You know,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to come back with with some type of accomplishment, right,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so you know, being there, um, I had my head

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>focused on you know, what I needed to do, um

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and what I felt I wanted to do, uh and

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>get out of it. So there was no like I

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>want to come home. It was like, man, I gotta

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>do this, you know, I need to get this done.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>In the recruiting process, what was the message your folks,

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>your parents, we're sending you off with basically what I

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, basically what I was kind of just already thinking,

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, just you know, work hard. Um. They had

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>of trouble m h, you know, and and do do

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>do what these people that are now basically your caretakers

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>basically tell you what to do, you know, because at

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you know, they're basically passing

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>me off to them, you know, and that fast actually

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>not to kind of be off too much, but that's

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>what's kind of crazy about this whole college uh, you know,

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>recruiting stuff. Man, they take you away from your home,

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, knowing that a lot of guys, you know

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>they're coming from upbringing is that are way completely different,

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and then they don't even really take care of you

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>as much as they should when you get out there.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, they sell you all these dreams and you

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>get out there and it's a completely different life. It's

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 1>got to be a transition. You you're especially for you

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you're a deep rooted family guy, but you have one

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>family and now you've got to transition almost to a

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>completely new family. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's it's it's it's

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an interesting transition. But luckily, you know, I

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.800
<v Speaker 1>actually had one of the guys that came there. Um,

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew him in high school, so you know, we

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of we hung out a lot. You know. That

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>was my guy. He's actually one of my grooms on

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>our weddings, you know. So it was helpful have some

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>men a piece from home, you know what. I was

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>out there and one of my best friends, uh named

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Lundy we met on our recruiting trip to Utah,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 1>friends to this day. So you know, uh as funny

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>as too is hearing you talk about and I heard

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in your voice and you were very you were dancing

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>around it. But basically, you have these people, and there's

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>all fasters of coaches now men and women in collegiate

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>sports that are coming in and basically auditioning and and

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>telling your folks. Right. Luckily, I had a great recruiter

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>who's kind of like a father figured to me named

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Fred Graves wide receivers coach San Diego Utah Buffalo Bill

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>San Diego Chargers, even for a little bit of time

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>in Carolina Panthers, and he recruited me. And he came

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in and told my grandmother that he was gonna take

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>care of me. He's gonna look out for me just

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>like his his own son. He did that. But I'm

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>imagining that there's a lot of other people that's not

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the case. That may not be the case, and they

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you man you know, we're gonna take care of

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you like he's one of our own. And sometimes that

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen. Who was the coach that recruit you? And

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>what what kind of did they say? Because I I

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of felt a little bit in there. You were like, man,

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>this this this game they're running. Man, you go to

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>college and you are handing off the most valuable thing

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you have and these coaches are like, let me check

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it off the box, got quincy. Bang, we got this

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. Let's go to the next guy and we'll

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>tell him what that We'll we'll tell him whatever we

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>need to tell him to get our guy so we

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>can keep our contracts. You know. Uh, I'm a football

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>story and so on ne brasket. At that time, y'all

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>was wearing them Boo boo Adida a white receiver? Is

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it wharing those Adidas? Now is five? But when you

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>was playing, they was not. Just for them to get

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver is a victory and of itself. As

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>much as they run the ball receiver split in well,

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just they switched it up. Man. So we're gonna

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>go into a part that I love. Let's talk ball.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna talk about ball, and so I

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>just gotta start off, man is because kind of telling

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>tell the fans your fans fans are podcast your six

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.920
<v Speaker 1>round pick um two thousand fourteen right out of Nebraska

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, without saying the date and all

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, you were released from the New York Jets

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and you sustained some injuries. Um, take us through right

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>now that. Mhm. What it has the process been for

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you in football? That sounds like most guys I assumed,

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'll say it's outside of your wife, uh and

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>your your family. Football really for NFL guy knows that's

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that's your first love. Mm hmm. Now you're losing that

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>first love. What has that grieving process been like for you?

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And and walk us through that if if you don't mind,

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>or if you if you can, because I just went

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>through it about three or four years ago. And then

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we moved and I literally had to pack up stuff

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>that I kind of stored away in my basement. So

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we moved and downside and I say downside me, and

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.479
<v Speaker 1>we went from my family and six to now we're

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>on a family four and I got a sophomore, so

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>we're in three years basically be me my wife and

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>our and our our youngest Steve Smith Jr. And I

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was packing up and deciding what do I want to keep,

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>what I want to get rid of. And there's a

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>moment I started tearing up in my basement as I'm

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>packing because I'm packing up I had my old shoulder pads,

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>only I wore the same shoulder pass my whole career.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Uh my Carolina Pathers shoulder pads. Where the shoulder pass

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I wanderneath my jersey in Baltimore. So when I was released,

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I told him is, uh, send me

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>send my shoulder pass. And that was it. And I

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was packing up my stuff and I got teary eyed

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, man, I'll never be able to

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>play ball again. And as I was putting it in there,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, these are my first pair of clicks

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that I wore, you know my classes I got out

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>from the Pro Bowl, or these are the this is

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a jersey I had, or a photo of of Peyton,

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my oldest son, who's twenty two now gonna be twenty

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>three and November. But there's a picture of him when

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>he was eight or nine years old. He's standing with donovatement.

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just trying to figure out, how does that

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>process been for you so far? And it hasn't been

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a long time, but how's that uh coming along for you?

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>And take a through that journey if you don't mind.

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>The most difficult part is just been injured for you know,

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>now going on two years. You know, I've been one

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of the hardest things, especially you know it being a

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>neck injury, so you know, I have to take that

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>much that much more serious, um, you know, And so

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the hardest thing for me last year I could say

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was you know, it being my second time being injured. Um,

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what was coming into the facility neck injury? So the

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>first year I had next surgery. The first injury you

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>know I had that was major. I had next surgery,

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So I missed the whole year. What was that entail

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that next surgery? M Uh yeah, So I had her

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 1>neated disc. So what they had to do is they

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>had to go in, take the disc out, put a

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>bone in the metal plate, some screws, um and I

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>had to wait nine months for it to heal up.

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was the prognosis. As they started

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to lay out the game plan of how to approach

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 1>this injury. They said that, you know, I had a good,

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, a good chance to come back out play.

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I might have small uh changing my range emotions,

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but overall I should be able to go play. So

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, that was encouraging that first year, you know,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and know that you know, once

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I got this, I could still go out and play.

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And so then I did too. But then two outs

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a nineteen um, you know, I go back out and

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I hit somebody and find out that I got another

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>hunde of this and this one is the one below.

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's where, you know, things started to become like

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 1>dangn uh oh upper cervical. So in my next the

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>process of being injured, you know, in the NFL, know

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you you you work your whole life to get here,

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and so for injury to be the

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>reason why, you know, you're not able to see the field,

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it can be kind of you know, dis hurt me

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>depressing in those type of ways, especially when you you know,

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we once a captain, a leader. You know, you almost

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>feel as though you're letting the team down. You know,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>these guys look up to you, guys look to you,

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and perform, to make these big plays,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to score touchdowns, all those things, you know, and so

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it can be hard to face your teammates knowing

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that injured the game, even though at the end of

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the day, it's really not even your fault. You know,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you're you're not the one that went out there and

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>purposely hurt yourself. You're just playing as hard as you can.

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, the chips fell fell where they fell, you know,

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it was it was a hard time for me. Um,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of going through abs, like you said,

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the grieving process of knowing that you know, um, this

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>this second injury, you know, could could make things a

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>lot a lot more difficult for me. I think it's

0:42:55.920 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>about that time. Just take a little breather. Good, let's

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>getting down to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did you

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>get that T shirt? Mean this thing? Oh? Yes, I

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:15.880
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0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. Sitting in your locker. After you get

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 1>this diagnosis and the symbolism of sitting in your locker

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>being alone. What was that inner inner dialogue with you

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and your heart of this game that you potentially no

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>longer can play. No, I think in the beginning it

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>was probably a little bit of the nile, you know, like, nah,

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you know I can still do this, but you know,

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we actually sold this past year. We UM. What they

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>told me after I got hurt for the first game

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>was that, you know, we would um sit back, um

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and see how hills to top playing any football and

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>we assessed. UM, so I wanted a whole year, you know,

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>knowing UM that there's probably nothing I can physically do

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to help it get better. And the only way it

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 1>will literally get better with UM basically by you know,

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the grace of God, right, like some miracle happening where

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the this shrinks and um it's no longer hearnated and

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I can go back on the football field. UM. So

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>knowing that you know that that that's a little bit frustrating,

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>almost kind of don't want to UM do anything because

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>you know there's really nothing that can help UM. So

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>fast forward, UM to the end of the season. We

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>went to go get an m R. I and it

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:46.399
<v Speaker 1>showed no change. This is this is tough, you know life. Um,

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know it's not my second neck injury. Um, and

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>after a whole year, nothing has changed. I'm staying at

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>getting any better. Um. So you know it's thankfully you

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>know that that their doctors was still telling me there's

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a chance. But you know, I'm m um, I know,

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>deep down you know that I'm happy with what I've accomplished.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna. I'm gonna, you know, do what I

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.839
<v Speaker 1>can to get back out there if I can. How

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>did you approach playing the NFL? Was it a job

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>or was it a child's game? Mm hmm, so I

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>said this, it was. It was a child game up

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:36.439
<v Speaker 1>until I saw somebody get cut. Right. So the first

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>time I saw somebody get cut, I realized this is

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a job and I need to take it as a job.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>So every day I came to work and I told everybody,

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, anybody I met, I said I gotta go

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to work, they'd be like what, I'm like, yeah, this

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>is my job, man, this is no longer just this

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't just a game. This is a business. And if

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't, if I don't look at it this way,

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, I could be the next one out of here.

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So every day was a work, you know, every day

0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I came to Every day I came to work, it

0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>was I was coming to go play football. M you

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>treated like a career. What were the highs of playing ball?

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Sans right, going out there scoring touchdowns in front of

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the stands. I think that that's partly the eyes of it,

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, being able to kind of put it all

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>together and and so the world. What's the capable of doing,

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, making those big plays, you know, hearing the audience,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the crowd getting loud, you know, especially when

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>they hear the ball in their Remember one of my

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite plays was against New England. Um

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>U two thousands, seventeen sixteen. Uh scored a touchdown in

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the back corner um and the ball was in the

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>air as I was running. So all you hear is

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>just the crowd. I look up the balls in the air,

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I catch it, come down, the crowd gets even louder.

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's just it's just it's a feeling that

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't really, you know, put anywhere else. What was

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 1>your professional goals when you first started Once you gotta

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>finally got a taste of being a wide receiver in

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Professional goals, I mean I had I had

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot, man, you know, and I'd say, you know,

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the biggest one was just being known as a professional. Honestly,

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's a simple one. It's a small one.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>But I knew, you know, there were so many things

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>outside of my control, you know, going to the Pro Bowl, Uh,

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>going to the Super Bowl. You know, I think those

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>are my goals, but I knew that you know there

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>there that's it's a team game, right, So there's gonna

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>be so many different things that are a factive at

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>So I knew that the biggest one I wanted no

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>matter what was it. I came to work and people

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 1>knew that I was gonna be hard workers. I was

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna come in every day and you knew that Quincy

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was gonna have his hard add on and he was

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be the guy that you could look to

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.240
<v Speaker 1>to be working the hardest on the field. At times,

0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I felt very awkward kind of struggle with with being

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>comfortable on my own skin. How comfortable were you in

0:47:54.880 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>your own skin as an NFL football player. Uh, I

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>say I was comfortable, but I say that, you know,

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like, uh, there wasn't too complete

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 1>self awareness there, right. I think that we get, especially

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 1>now in the age of social media, when you get

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on social when you become a professional football player, you

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>almost feel like you have to live up to the facade.

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:22.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to be perfect better be like, uh,

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>all these guys on social media is showing and flyting

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and all that sorther things. And I said, a lot

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of guys kind of fall into the track, you know.

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And so the minute that I kind of like it

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>was brought back down, like this isn't what I need.

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, being on social media kind of helped me

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of see that, you know, all these things on

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>social media, it's so much streak, you know what I mean,

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you you just see the people trying to live

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 1>up to something, you know, or live up to the

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>character that they feel like they have to be um.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of why I took the break,

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>was because I didn't want to be set into that.

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really care to see it anymore, and you know,

0:48:58.160 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just live a life where I felt

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like I need to live up to anybody else's expectations,

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, because life is already hard enough, you know.

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>To what led to you taking a social media break? Um,

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>being hurt? You know, I think, Uh, I just was like,

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't I don't care to post about

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>football or see football. You know. Being heard kind of

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>just like made like take a step back, you know,

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>being hurt a second time. I mean, so, you know,

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was a healthy break, man, it

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>felt good. What would older Quincy tell younger Quincy entering

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>into his first NFL training camp? So the older Quincy

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 1>is like, look, let me tell you what's gonna happen.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>This is how always going down? Knowing everything you know

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, I would tell myself two stretch flexibility yoga

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in some way, do that as much as you can

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>do so much flexibility, have be them one of the

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>most flexible. And also really work on cardio. Those are

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the two things that throughout my career. Um, I wish

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have done more of just really working on

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>my car and really working on my flexibility. That's it. Yeah,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I felt like I'm disappointed, kind of

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>hell like like, you're going to your first training camp, Quincy,

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>what are you going stretch that? Listen that that would

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 1>have shook so much money advice. I didn't need to listen.

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to. I wasn't I wasn't spending crazy.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 1>There was certain things that I just already knew. That

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>was one thing I wish I wouldn't do that. Brother

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to stretch. Hey, I'm just you know, Hey,

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get married. You gotta in the advice pop. Hey, hey,

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>some people need that though, I know, but I was like, man,

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>manque he got some over here dropping knowledge. Stretch. He

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:01.800
<v Speaker 1>gave you that. He gave you the seeballs hit ball.

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, So we were gonna we're gonna wrap

0:51:09.160 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>this up. But man, we're gonna do one of our

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>things called the Dep. Three. Uh. Dep Three is we're

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you. I'm reading this, Hey, that's pretty good.

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Like Dep. Three is gonna be three introspective things that

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we just want to dive deep in with you. Uh, Quincy,

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>once you knew you could make football into a career,

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.800
<v Speaker 1>who did you play for and what was your wife?

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I played for my family. I definitely play for my family,

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and so they were they were my wife too, you know,

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like being able to just help him out. You know,

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>they did so much to be to come to this country,

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to sacrifice so much, you know, um,

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to risk so much to leave their family, you know,

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to to create a family here. Um. You know, I

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be able to do what I can

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to kind of repay them. Well, how could you tell

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>your wife the impact she's had on your life as

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a football player, you know, just in case you want

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to let her listen when we drunk. Honestly, man, I

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 1>tell her all the time. Man's she's she's been a

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>used pieces of of my piece right like you know,

0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>she's she's helped me be at peace, you know when

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>things have been so stressful and you know, to come home,

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, to a wife has been so supportive. Um

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>has been you know the most amazing part of my

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>my my career. You know, to have somebody that you

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>can to just be at home to de stress, you know,

0:52:40.480 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about the things that go on. You guys can

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>just come together in a harmony. Um. You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a beautiful thing that you know, how most

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<v Speaker 1>guys get to experience. What do you still want out

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<v Speaker 1>of your professional career and how are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your mental game strong? I want a super Bowl, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a super Bowl out of is. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, when you when you make it past

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<v Speaker 1>the average, you know, three years, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, one of the big goals outside

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<v Speaker 1>of your own individual goals, is a big one super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I think in order for me to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, you know, mentally, you know, it's just about

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<v Speaker 1>staying focus on that goal, you know, creating systems in

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<v Speaker 1>order for me to reach that goal, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, I've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great mentors, you know, and and so you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>next time I hit that field, I know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely be prepared. What was your while while you

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<v Speaker 1>were playing? And then also what's your why? Now? Probably

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<v Speaker 1>the first eight or nine years uh my NFL career,

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<v Speaker 1>I played for myself, and then I started to realize,

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<v Speaker 1>um that this was gonna. I was running out esteem

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really something that was extremely hard to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up. And so I had some things personally happened

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<v Speaker 1>in my life and over time will reveal them more

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<v Speaker 1>and more um and start to realize that the selfishness

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<v Speaker 1>and just um that inner dialogue within myself was not positive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started to need to refocus and really see

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<v Speaker 1>and so I kind of took that time to really say, Okay, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I played enough for myself. I need to start playing

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And when I say playing for God meaning

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<v Speaker 1>allowing him to really direct my steps and direct my

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<v Speaker 1>steps and understanding why am I here was the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>and so realizing that even now being done playing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then my last couple of years I played understanding and

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<v Speaker 1>trained with a scientific and a holistic approach of myself

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<v Speaker 1>and how I can get the best out of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>how I can get the best out of manipulating my

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<v Speaker 1>mind into believing that no one like me and no

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<v Speaker 1>one believed in me. And then I started to realize

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<v Speaker 1>as I started kind of relying on God to direct

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<v Speaker 1>my steps is I found myself in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>working out, asking God to help me get through this

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<v Speaker 1>workout at thirty four years old, and started to realize

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<v Speaker 1>I needed people around me to help me. I needed

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<v Speaker 1>people in my life that would speak life into me um,

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<v Speaker 1>not just teach me how to save a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money, teach me how to acquire materialistic things, acquire

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<v Speaker 1>things that will bring value, to increase my status on

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<v Speaker 1>social media and all that stuff. But really, um, to

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<v Speaker 1>try to live a legacy, to try to have something

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<v Speaker 1>that my wife, my family, my my boys, and my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter would be proud of. Um. Also that when they

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<v Speaker 1>hear me speak, that they don't cringe of of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I say and how I articulate them, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I've in the past I've cussed

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<v Speaker 1>is really a shortcut my mind. My father in law

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<v Speaker 1>said that he believes that people that cuss only are

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<v Speaker 1>masking for the lack of words that they have, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always stood out. Now he's also a man who

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<v Speaker 1>taught me how to tie tie. Okay, so he is

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's father, but however I call him that as

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<v Speaker 1>well because he has shown me some things. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean by that is, by the age of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven or twelve, my oldest son, Payton knows how to

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<v Speaker 1>tie tie, my son Boston knows how to tie tie,

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<v Speaker 1>and Deuce, who's six years old, who wears dad's ties. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So giving them something more than money, giving them something,

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<v Speaker 1>teaching them how to truly fish and and because we

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<v Speaker 1>can learn how to cook, but do we know how

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<v Speaker 1>to fish and cook? And so one of the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>things My why is MODI son. We were texting a

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and he's starting that he's on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>he's starting to cook. And he said something to me

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<v Speaker 1>that warm my heart and I know it's from the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>which is he said, uh, I said, I see you,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, I said, you know you keep this up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna be cooking. And his text said

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to be like you dad. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you come over on the you know still good,

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<v Speaker 1>so the weather still good, So come on over and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll teach you how to, you know, work on the grill.

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<v Speaker 1>His reply was even deeper, which was I would love

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 1>him nothing more. And I didn't even reply. I just

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<v Speaker 1>stared at it. And I've still been staring at I've

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<v Speaker 1>been staring at the text for two days now. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my why. You are a unique person. You are well

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<v Speaker 1>worth it, you are competent, and most of all, your lovable.

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