1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff continues ahead of the Panthers and Jaguars 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. A Dede kink Abwala from CBS force 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: with us, you'll have the sidelines today for this ball 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: game that the Jaguars got to have. It's nice to 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: talk with you. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's nice to be covering a game where there's 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: so much urgency. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they didn't have a lot of urgency last week. 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: That was the issue with the Jaguars, and that surprised 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people with considering the situation down in Tampa. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: They just kind of fell down and they didn't have 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: any life at all last. 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's been an interesting season to watch from 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: AFAR because I was here so much a year ago 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: and it felt like this was a team that was 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: surprising people. And then this season has been about learning 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: how to play with the burden of expectations. But it's 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: all part of the growth of a young team and. 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's been through it before. I mean, they did 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: it on the other side last year, you know, rallying 21 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: and December and figuring out ways to win and probably 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: games they shouldn't have won while the other team loss. 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: But like you said, now they've got to finish this 24 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: thing out. They've had the division lead, so you know 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: what's what now? How do they change the tune now 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: with two weeks to go and. 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: Ball North girl. No, I'm an AFC North girl. I 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: believe that in December you run the ball. Even if 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: you're in Florida, you run the ball. But I do 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: think that with a backup quarterback with a team that 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: although the Panthers did look significantly better a week ago offensively, 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: still you want to control the croc impose your will 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: run the ball. Let's go see the superstar that I 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: believe Travis etn is. 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: We've seen flashes of it even this season in London 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: against Buffalo, he was fantastic. The offensive line was really 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: good that day. That's been part of it. The old 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: line has changed so much, especially on the left side. 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: And having Cam Robinson back, that's got to give this 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: group of Booses. 41 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Well, you have to be excited, right. It's even in demeanor. 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: It's not just a big body, it's not just a 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: big name. It's his attitude out there. 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: And we talked a lot about you know this offseason, Hey, 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you know Cam Robinson's out the first four games pd suspension. Oh, 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: they'll slide him over, you know, or whatever. He'll figure 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: out something after the season. They can cut him anyway 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: and save a bunch of money. But then he gets 49 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: back in the lineup and you realize, oh, that's why 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: he's the left tackle, that's why he's getting paid like 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: he is. So people around here, at least a lot, 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: have felt, you know, they're quick to get rid of 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: good football players, and there's a reason he's good. You 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: don't get rid of those. 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Guys, certainly not. And I think that that's part of 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: the continuity that you look for, especially when you're building 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: a team and you're building your leadership, and you're building 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: your identity and you're showing who you are. And in 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, the Jags kind of overachieved a 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: year ago, but they certainly set a standard. So stick 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: to that standard as opposed to kind of going back 62 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: to the mean. 63 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Where are you on Calvin Ridley? What have you seen 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: from him this year? 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: Okay? So I love that you're asking me that because 66 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: I literally just said that out on the practice field 67 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: to a member of the Jaguar staff. So where are 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: we I'm Calvin Ridley I don't know can I answer 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: that question after the game on Sunday, especially since he's 70 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: someone that you hope will have a big game on Sunday. 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: He's going to need it. I mean, he's the only 72 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: real starting wide receiver left on the field. 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know if I was allowed to say that 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: just yet, but correct, Christian Kirk is, Oh, I'm so 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: sorry I don't get to see I will say that 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk are both young men that 77 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: I genuinely appreciate as human beings. So I am disappointed 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: I won't see them. But hey, Evan Ingram having a 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 2: monster year, yes, and really grown as a leader from 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: what I'm being told, And I spoke to him a 81 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: bunch last year, talked to him again this week. It 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: feels as if he's a little bit more at peace, 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: and I think security would do that for any of us. 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Right. 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: He was on a show me a deal a year 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: ago where every snap, every play is so meaningful. He 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: showed exactly who he is, found a place to call home, 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: got that deal that he absolutely deserves, and now he's 89 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: on the cusp of doing something that very very few 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: tight ends have ever done. Although I did ask Doug 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: Peterson if he's only two catches away from that one 92 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: hundred catches. He goes, no, No, don't put that in 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: my head, because then they'll be forced to try to 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: force him the ball. 95 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they have to try to force 96 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: the ball the ball. 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Do you have an ingram? 98 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kin Kibwalla is with a CBS Sports. All right. Defensively, 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: this was a takeaway defense. They prided themselves on stopping 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: the run a lot of the season. Some of that's 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: gone away now, so all right, how do they figure 102 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: that back out in the last two weeks? And where 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: do you begin against Carolina? 104 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: What do they havef How about refocusing on tackling, which 105 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: allegedly has been done this week, which you would know 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: better since you were here every single day this week. 107 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: But fifteen miss is that what it was? Fifteen miss tackles? 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Last number? 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen mistackles. It can't be doing that. 110 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: We weren't doing that earlier in the. 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Year, right, So I think refocusing on that, working back 112 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: at the fundamentals of that, and I'll use the same 113 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: exact word, focusing on that. I driving at home, you know, 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: and I'll certainly that's something that I'll be watching for 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: from the sideline on Sunday. And if there is a mistackle, 116 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: what is the response to that? You know, it's something 117 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: that Josh Allen talks about a lot, right, how do 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: you respond? And he's another one who maybe had a 119 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: game that was a bit disappointing in his mind last week, 120 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: and so how do you respond. 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: This is a team that's built a lot of free 122 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: agent guys, guys that weren't homegrown, that weren't drafted here. 123 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: But there's a few of those guys we talked about 124 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson drafted here, sign another deal here, right, There 125 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: aren't many that have been around that long. Josh Allen's 126 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: in a contract year. You brought his name up No. 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Thirteen and a half, have sex at the right time. 128 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: If he finishes strong here, he's you know, set up 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: for a huge payday of the offseason. But this organization 130 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: needs homegrown guys that stick around for that second contract, 131 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: especially the first round guys. They have failed to do 132 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: that over the years. 133 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, and I think that you do have the right 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: guys here. I don't know now, I'm not in your 135 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: locker room every single week, but I'm scanning the field 136 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: this week and I don't see jerks. I don't see 137 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: any jerks. I don't know. You tell me, am I right? 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: He feels right. I mean this is an approachable right. 139 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: So it feels as if you've got the right people 140 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: who are growing and developing. You see the way Trevor 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: has grown from a year ago, how he's grown as 142 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: a leader. You talk about how Evan Ingram not homegrown, 143 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: but he's grown. You see Josh Allen, it wasn't that 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: long ago that he was learning at Kalais Campbell's knee, 145 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: and now Trayvon Walker is learning at Josh Allen's knee. 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: So I think, organizationally, these are the guys that you 147 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: do want to keep around, that you do want to 148 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: sign second contracts to, that you do want to have 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: mold and developed the next generation. And I don't see 150 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: any reason that that wouldn't happen, especially since the Jaguars 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: have had this taste of success right now. 152 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: DD Kinkibwalla, CBS Sports Final thought with you. I mean, 153 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: the Jags had a two game lead, it's now down 154 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: to a tie, and they have the tiebreaker going into 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Week seventeen. To have the lead. So what would it 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: mean for them They can really clinch this thing as 157 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: early as Sunday with the other two teams losing on 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: the Jags winning, or they can really be behind the 159 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: eight ball. This would be no, no, no, no, no no. 160 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: This is enough suspense, This is enough suspense. Why don't 161 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: they go ahead take care of business on Sunday do 162 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: what they need to do? And I don't I mean 163 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: that the fans should recognize what this moment is, right, 164 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: and the Jaguars should recognize what this moment is. And look, 165 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: we don't know until we get out there on Sunday 166 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: and get a sense of it. But I certainly feel 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: like there's been a good game talked today, a good 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: game talked leading up to this game, and so it 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: certainly seems as if minds are right. What does that mean? 170 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. But also, you're facing a Panthers team 171 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: that you can't overlook, and the Panthers are coming off 172 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: their absolute best outing, and that's a club that has 173 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: been very open in acknowledging that they're not just playing 174 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: out a string, that they are auditioning for a new 175 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: coaching staff, they are auditioning for potentially new employers around 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: the league, and so if you love what you do, 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: there are not that many opportunities to do this. The 178 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: Panthers aren't just going to lay down and roll over. 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: If anybody would know that it's the Jaguars organization, Okay, 180 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: we've been in those shoes. Great to see it, Thanks 181 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: for the. 182 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: Time, Thanks so much for having me. I'm looking forward 183 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: to Sunday and the sunshine.