Speaker 1: And this drinks Chests motherfucking podcast makes He's a legends
Speaker 1: every queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy in.
Speaker 2: O R He's a Miami hip hop Mayonnaier put up
Speaker 2: as DJ E f N.
Speaker 3: Together they drink it up with some.
Speaker 1: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one
Speaker 3: source for drunk fast drink chans most.
Speaker 1: Every day is New Year's e.
Speaker 3: Listen, it's time for drink Champs. Drink up, mother mother.
Speaker 3: I wrapped the gang gag?
Speaker 1: What a good beat? How many swinter ship? This is
Speaker 1: your boy in O R E? What up is DJ
Speaker 1: E f N? And this drink Champs japy. I will
Speaker 1: makes up all right now, right now. When we started
Speaker 1: this show, I wanted this brother on this show. I've
Speaker 1: got to see him from one of his first shows
Speaker 1: in New York to hear. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember the story. We'll get to that later. Hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get to that later. But I want to
Speaker 1: show but this brother here. If you put George Clinton,
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson, Snoop Dogg and put a little bit of
Speaker 1: the beast voice in there, we'll all feel good. Music
Speaker 1: This is what this brother would be. He has relentless
Speaker 1: and I can see him and I've never honestly say,
Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever seen him mad. I think
Speaker 1: I actually see he actually enjoys life. He's mad. He's
Speaker 1: been on a crazy mixtape. Run to all of his accolades,
Speaker 1: to all of his things and things and things and things,
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 2: Got all types of clothing lines, Khalifa cushions and all
Speaker 2: this liquors and liquors.
Speaker 1: He's an entrepreneur.
Speaker 3: He's the first Stoner to.
Speaker 1: Come here on time.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, he came early.
Speaker 1: I was still get my hair cuts, like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the first time. And when I gave him a fire,
Speaker 1: he said, because I'm a businessman. Nor In case you
Speaker 1: don't know who were talking about, we talking about the one,
Speaker 1: the only motherfucking.
Speaker 3: What's cracking.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, my brother. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: One of one of the first shows I believe that
Speaker 1: you had in New York. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was the first show, but I think it was like
Speaker 1: one of your top five.
Speaker 3: It was the first show.
Speaker 1: It was the first show.
Speaker 3: Do you remember what happened?
Speaker 4: I do remember you remember what I do?
Speaker 5: You remember what you called?
Speaker 3: You called me wiz kayaka. So I'm a kid. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like still in high school and ship. I was
Speaker 3: like seventeen years old and this was all hip hop.
Speaker 4: It was breeding ground.
Speaker 3: So this was like early blog air day Roseberg, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: So there was only like a couple cast doing blogs
Speaker 3: and they were covering a couple of dudes and it
Speaker 3: was me, uh, the cool kids. I think, uh, what
Speaker 3: was what was knowledge in his dudes group's name? They're
Speaker 3: from Chicago as well. I forget kids already. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: it was us and Norri was the was the host.
Speaker 3: So he was like, you know, everybody loves Nori's legendary.
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, we all look up
Speaker 3: to name it was. It was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: The best person to my name. And I feel like
Speaker 3: you're making up your own words anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kayak, it means something.
Speaker 1: That you know what I thought? That's how you pronounced
Speaker 1: the thing and what is it called?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The I was close.
Speaker 3: The birds was not even built back then, but this
Speaker 3: nigga did it silent. Let me ask you, man.
Speaker 1: As soon as I you know, I pulled you off
Speaker 1: One of the craziest things on the internet about you
Speaker 1: is your feet. Yea, yeah, yeah, on your feet.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, You're.
Speaker 1: Gonna get a foot deal. I swear to god, he
Speaker 1: said what a foot deal? Like you ever seen Seinfeld
Speaker 1: with he became a hand model. Like for some.
Speaker 3: Reason, I have been getting tons of offers from like
Speaker 3: people to do foot products and and uh.
Speaker 4: Sketch Snooper shout out to Snoop.
Speaker 3: He doing sketches, but like more like moisturizing creams and
Speaker 3: things that will lock the moisture in because I really
Speaker 3: don't have bad feet, they just dry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been working.
Speaker 3: On it like like a lot. Yeah, like a lot
Speaker 3: of people, they don't take that type of criticism and
Speaker 3: do anything about it. Like me, I've been lotioning my
Speaker 3: feet every day. I went and got a yeah, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I'm trying to get it right.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I feel like you're one of
Speaker 1: the people that you always feel good energy like and
Speaker 1: to me, you know, in this game of hip hop,
Speaker 1: you know, so many people they get bitter, you know,
Speaker 1: after a while, whether they're successful or not or and
Speaker 1: I just feel like you always as good energy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you develop that type of aura?
Speaker 4: You kind of just got to take everything and roll
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 3: And I just reached certain points in my life where
Speaker 3: like looking cool isn't the object, you know.
Speaker 4: I just love to make music.
Speaker 3: I love to take care of my family, I love
Speaker 3: to entertain my fans, and as long as I'm doing that,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty happy. The other stuff it doesn't really bother
Speaker 3: me because that's not my That's not what I wake
Speaker 3: up and do this for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: And then like the bitterness, I think that comes with
Speaker 3: like bad relationships or things when you take it personal.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot that goes on in this industry
Speaker 3: that could make you bitter, but you have a choice
Speaker 3: whether you want to react.
Speaker 1: To it or not.
Speaker 4: So I just don't let that type of stuff FaZe me.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I just base my relationships off of different things, and
Speaker 3: that's how I'm able to move.
Speaker 1: Yeah, collaboration with a porn star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me and Khalifa, man like one of the
Speaker 3: biggest she's an ex porn star actually, Yeah, so she
Speaker 3: came into the game. That's kind of like how people
Speaker 3: notice her. But she's been able to pivot and do
Speaker 3: a lot of other things. I think she still has
Speaker 3: the only fans though, Like, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's straight hard court shit. Nah, she's doing we're doing
Speaker 3: Khalifa Cush together. Yeah, so me having the Khalifa Cush brand,
Speaker 3: shout out to Berner.
Speaker 4: I built this, this whole brand with him. It took
Speaker 4: us ten years.
Speaker 3: And now we've been all over the United States, we're
Speaker 3: going overseas and we're we're we're branching out and we're
Speaker 3: doing celebrity endorsement deals as well. She's the first one.
Speaker 1: And that's under Khalifakush and Kalifa Cush is under Cookies.
Speaker 4: No, Khalifa Cush is his own.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we come from the same cloth though, like
Speaker 3: the same cuts that Berner gets his trees from. That's
Speaker 3: the same you know, tender and care that we're putting
Speaker 3: into the Khalifa push product. So anything that comes out
Speaker 3: under Khalifa Cush, whether it's me, Mia Khalifa or any
Speaker 3: other artists that we endorsed at the time, it's going
Speaker 3: to be a really really uh you know, up to
Speaker 3: brand product.
Speaker 1: So it's around a little bit. I remember I think
Speaker 1: the first time I heard Todds out of Science was
Speaker 1: was with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's signs still with Taylor Gang. Yeah, Ti is
Speaker 3: always gonna be Taylor Gang. We started out managing him.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know that Taylor Gang is
Speaker 3: a label and a management company. So a lot of
Speaker 3: those first moves that you were seeing in his career
Speaker 3: were from you know, me and Will managing his career
Speaker 3: and putting him on tour and you know, just getting
Speaker 3: him out there, like basically using the same stuff that
Speaker 3: we were able to to to accumulate. But he was
Speaker 3: already there as well. He already knew a lot of
Speaker 3: radio people, already knew a lot of writers and producers.
Speaker 3: It just took a little extra push and just having
Speaker 3: the platform that I had, we were able to use
Speaker 3: that through Taylor Gang.
Speaker 4: And you know, tis a legend.
Speaker 3: He was always meant to be who he is, and
Speaker 3: we were just able to, you know, push it a
Speaker 3: little bit faster.
Speaker 1: Right let me so let me ask you, right because
Speaker 1: you know, coming from Pennsylvania, right, yeah, and then everywhere
Speaker 1: the nomes city is Philly, it's Philly. Yeah, how was
Speaker 1: it harder for you for being from Pittsburgh? And how
Speaker 1: was it did you have to navigate because like I know,
Speaker 1: like uh, like like you know, people from you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes they have to go to New York. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: there something like like that you had to skip over
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and go to New.
Speaker 2: York or anybody any legends you looked up to that
Speaker 2: work that came up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's a long story about Pittsburgh because
Speaker 3: we were really influential in the early nineties West Coast
Speaker 3: Sound with like Sam Snead and like uh Mailman and
Speaker 3: those are people who work really close with Hug and
Speaker 3: Dre and Snoop and like really pioneered that sound, but
Speaker 3: they just weren't in front of everybody. So we always
Speaker 3: had like that yeah it is, that's the good stuff.
Speaker 3: So we always had like a direction that we wanted
Speaker 3: to go in. We just never had anybody to like
Speaker 3: wave that flag for us. And just being from pa
Speaker 3: in general, I think it's really difficult for a lot
Speaker 3: of artists, even from Philly, you know, to get noticed
Speaker 3: or to get looked at and be like these guys
Speaker 3: are original or have their own sound.
Speaker 4: And I think anywhere you have to really leave and.
Speaker 3: Become bigger somewhere else for your city to kind of
Speaker 3: look at you as somebody. I feel like, even if
Speaker 3: you're in New York, like, nobody's gonna call you your rap name,
Speaker 3: They're gonna call you who they know you from the block,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, exactly, So at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you have to make yourself
Speaker 3: somebody and then come back home.
Speaker 4: And it was the same thing with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: It was it was a lot of grinding and being
Speaker 3: a teenager, being somebody who is just trying to find
Speaker 3: myself as a young adult and you know, make music
Speaker 3: that was appropriate to who I was and that translated
Speaker 3: to other people that were doing different things. It took
Speaker 3: a minute, you know what I'm saying, but it was
Speaker 3: worth it. And I love Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of dope barties out there.
Speaker 3: Man, It's a crazy scenes from the beginning all the
Speaker 3: way till now. Like we have a lot of talent
Speaker 3: out there when it comes to uh, producers, musicians, artists, cameramen, designers.
Speaker 3: It's such an artistic city. Brons, Nah, I don't it's
Speaker 3: so cold. And so what was it from the moment?
Speaker 1: Like because to me, you're a rockstar, right like, like
Speaker 1: I mean you transitioned just being a hip hop artist,
Speaker 1: just being a stoner like you're you're if not, I
Speaker 1: think you already you're a superstar, right, but it started
Speaker 1: for being a rock star. At what point did you
Speaker 1: see yourself transitioning in hip hop? Like you know what
Speaker 1: I say, being I don't want to say you're bigger
Speaker 1: than hip hop, but you know, like feeling like my
Speaker 1: audience isn't just hi, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I feel like I have my own like subculture of
Speaker 3: hip hop. It's like alternative rap whereas rap, but it's
Speaker 3: not like hardcore shit, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 3: lot of people like to say crossover or mainstream.
Speaker 4: But that was always my goal to make big songs.
Speaker 3: You know. I never wanted to just be underground or
Speaker 3: just be a nigga who is just known around the way,
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to appeal to world wide crowds. And
Speaker 3: that's how I write my music, that's how I structure it,
Speaker 3: and just you know, my knowledge about music, it goes
Speaker 3: beyond just hip hop, and that's why it translates the
Speaker 3: way that it does. But I think for me, it's
Speaker 3: more just the attitude than anything. Because you have to
Speaker 3: have the knowledge, and you have to understand music and
Speaker 3: how to appeal to people and who you want to
Speaker 3: appeal to. But also you have to have a certain
Speaker 3: way about yourself that you present it.
Speaker 4: And pretty much I be sometimes I'm.
Speaker 3: The only one who cares about my opinion, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But like, I don't give a fucking.
Speaker 1: You in the studio and you're the only one who
Speaker 1: likes this vibe and you still go with.
Speaker 3: Just in general about how I want to dress, about
Speaker 3: how I want to talk about, yeah, just being different,
Speaker 3: just how I live my life. Like I'm the only
Speaker 3: one who agrees with me a lot of the times.
Speaker 3: But that's I feel like that's the rock star energy
Speaker 3: is just not giving a fuck and doing what you
Speaker 3: want to do and presenting that to people and making
Speaker 3: people love you for who you are. And I do
Speaker 3: it in a safe way. I'm not dangerous, I'm not
Speaker 3: hurting anybody. I'm not trying to hurt myself, So you know,
Speaker 3: I always just conducted myself with this confidence and this
Speaker 3: care for myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the first deal you had with Warner.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first till I was with Warner, I was.
Speaker 2: The rep and I was he actually was a young
Speaker 2: guy saying the street team and we worked. It felt
Speaker 2: in the beginning, if I remember corrected, I might you know,
Speaker 2: might not, but it felt like in the beginning, Warner
Speaker 2: didn't know how to how.
Speaker 3: To work your record of market. At that time, the
Speaker 3: music business was really like just they didn't know what
Speaker 3: to do. I think like Little Scrappy was the biggest
Speaker 3: artist at Warner at that time, and that's because Trelville
Speaker 3: was popping off and they had Jay Rock, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and Kendrick was under j Rock. So
Speaker 3: they didn't know what was going on with who or
Speaker 3: who was going to be where in ten years. You
Speaker 3: did what I'm saying, and it was up to us
Speaker 3: as the artist to like pave that way for them.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right, they didn't know what to do
Speaker 3: with me. But I had a song that like appealed
Speaker 3: to the radio. It was called say Yeah and it
Speaker 3: was over Alice DJ Semple, and they never heard nothing
Speaker 3: like that at that time. They were like, who is
Speaker 3: this kid you know, mixing like you know, wrap with techno,
Speaker 3: Like they never heard that. So they put of course,
Speaker 3: they put me in the studio and try to make
Speaker 3: get me to make thirty songs like that, but I'm
Speaker 3: talking about smoking weed and riding around with my homeboys
Speaker 3: and hanging with girls, and they're like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is this?
Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, where's the techno at?
Speaker 4: So it didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Because it felt like because going back to that blog era, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it felt like the traditional marketing style that was being
Speaker 2: done from the majors wasn't working. And it felt like
Speaker 2: you and that whole generation yeah, found your own lane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you made it work.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was just more going on than what the
Speaker 3: labels were like showing people. You know, they were just
Speaker 3: trying to polish it and kind of get the best
Speaker 3: of that, but they weren't trying to get everything that
Speaker 3: was put into that to get to that point.
Speaker 4: And that's what I was showing everybody.
Speaker 1: Man, I think artists even need labels at this point.
Speaker 3: Hell no, if you're artist. Hell yeah, if you're an artist,
Speaker 3: you are your own label, like you.
Speaker 1: Because you know, you know what's crazy about Like, obviously
Speaker 1: I'll come before you, but your generation still people will
Speaker 1: get discovered. Right this generation is already building their fan base.
Speaker 1: They already have a fan base. They have five thousand spins,
Speaker 1: it might be five thousand different people. They are already
Speaker 1: build on their fan base, So I always wonder. But
Speaker 1: then you'll see an artist, you know, get some popularity,
Speaker 1: and then they'll still go and they'll sign. Why do
Speaker 1: you think it is that there are good labels out there?
Speaker 1: There are that take care of the artists, that nurture
Speaker 1: their artists, that you know, promote them and you know,
Speaker 1: make them a priority. But that's just a certain game
Speaker 1: that you have to play, and if you don't want
Speaker 1: to play that game, you don't have to.
Speaker 4: And I think a.
Speaker 3: Lot of the artists sign because they don't know what
Speaker 3: they're signing up for. I think you should be fully
Speaker 3: aware of what you're getting yourself into and then sign
Speaker 3: the paperwork. Like, don't sign it thinking that you're gonna
Speaker 3: get a Rolls Royce and you're gonna fly private and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, that's not what you
Speaker 3: get into it for.
Speaker 4: It's a career. It's like signing to a basketball team.
Speaker 3: So you have to put in work and you have
Speaker 3: to do other things along with that to make it
Speaker 3: freaking lucrative, you know what I mean. So it's like
Speaker 3: it's all a part of what game you want to play.
Speaker 3: But to succeed, No, you don't need.
Speaker 1: That right No, Like like right now being EFN, it's
Speaker 1: opening a distribution for podcast and our contracts are like
Speaker 1: two pages. It's not no complicated ship. It's like, if
Speaker 1: you want to be here, you be with us. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be I feel like record labels, if
Speaker 1: you signed to a label, it should be that. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that complicated.
Speaker 3: Now it should be especially with all the niggas who's
Speaker 3: going to jail these days and the niggas on drugs,
Speaker 3: So you got to have life insurance.
Speaker 1: For a nigga.
Speaker 3: You're making an investment, so like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: you got a lot. It's like it's like a car,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, The car is a
Speaker 3: lifetime contract.
Speaker 1: But there's people who have life and like like I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to sound like the old day we signed, there
Speaker 1: was no digital in my contract. It never existed because
Speaker 1: of in the universe. They said, the universe, Yeah what
Speaker 1: is the core?
Speaker 3: Pppectn't know? Yeah, yeah, no, I mean at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like you just got to know what
Speaker 3: you sign them up for like you can own certain
Speaker 3: ship and then you can break bread on certain ship
Speaker 3: for a certain amount of time as well. You just
Speaker 3: work it out into your favor and then just like
Speaker 3: you said, these days it's more depending on the artists.
Speaker 3: So the more you walk in there with, if you
Speaker 3: have a fan base and things like that, the more
Speaker 3: leverage you had to say just what I want to
Speaker 3: do for how long? So that's my advice for anybody
Speaker 3: is to just build up your leverage. So when you
Speaker 3: do actually, you know, start taking those meetings or considering it,
Speaker 3: you know you're you're in a good place and so
Speaker 3: you can level up. Take a yeah, no, no doubt,
Speaker 3: thank you brother.
Speaker 1: Do you know you a legend?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2: That's you know, that's that's your button.
Speaker 3: There. I feel like I could do Bay. There's Rosie,
Speaker 3: there's like flowers.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, oh my god.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 3: Good week. Sure you hate it hated to a temperature
Speaker 3: that turns it from not not into smoke, but in
Speaker 3: a vapor.
Speaker 4: So it's not smoke, it's not harsh, it's not bothering you.
Speaker 3: It's just vapor.
Speaker 1: That's right. Type of commercials out doesn't want to killing it.
Speaker 4: This thing is dope. Look at your technology rare. The
Speaker 4: ain't no coal?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because just what does that do?
Speaker 3: Rady tidy lefty lucy mine ain't going. I gotta lotion
Speaker 3: on my hands. Here we go, here we go. Okay,
Speaker 3: so it's gotta be on them. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I see the different modes.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: So it's different, different mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on more.
Speaker 4: This one is this one off because of up.
Speaker 3: Here's the triple one.
Speaker 4: One is the one?
Speaker 6: Come on, come through?
Speaker 3: Yes, all.
Speaker 1: Like he's from the company right here.
Speaker 3: I got it, I found it. Three is the that's
Speaker 3: the one. All right. I almost turn that the drive. No,
Speaker 3: you want to finish?
Speaker 1: Three is the hardest three more smoke?
Speaker 3: All right, man, you got the cartridges. You can show
Speaker 3: me over.
Speaker 1: Showing the cartridges.
Speaker 4: That's official.
Speaker 1: But whiz. We want you to know to take this
Speaker 1: with me, okay. We want you to know about giving
Speaker 1: people they fly while they live.
Speaker 3: You want to literally give you your flowers?
Speaker 1: Thank you said, it's like a Grammy. It's beautiful. Yes, makes.
Speaker 4: Where this is going? Exactly where I'm now.
Speaker 1: Another thing about how hearing your music I've been I
Speaker 1: was running through it. We mentioned it watches a lot man.
Speaker 1: Yeah your watch guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was it was Yes, I slowed down since
Speaker 3: I had a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I had it.
Speaker 3: I had him bought the watch in a minute. Actually,
Speaker 3: Bernard brought me this watch. This was a gift man.
Speaker 3: He just popped up at my house one day. He
Speaker 3: was like, you know, thanks for being a good friend.
Speaker 3: You've been a real good friend. It's like you you
Speaker 3: you you walked into my life at a real important time.
Speaker 3: He was like, I just want to show you how
Speaker 3: much I appreciate you gave me a bust down.
Speaker 1: God damn make a shot. Shout out that man.
Speaker 3: Shout out that b.
Speaker 1: I got an upgrade my friends. Man, Yes, step it
Speaker 1: boy on the cover of the Forbes Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good friend. Shout out.
Speaker 2: He got that with the four twenty bucks and the
Speaker 2: first thing that pops up is drink Champs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you've he be showing going to the lake house.
Speaker 3: B I'll see you in a second.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 1: You ever thought I noticed a kind of a cliche.
Speaker 1: But you know, back then, people would be locked up
Speaker 1: for touching. Yeah, any type of bud, like totally. I
Speaker 1: remember one time in my hood I threw the joint away.
Speaker 1: The ship blew away, and the police still arrested me.
Speaker 1: I saw you smoking. I was like, there was no evidence.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it, this is fucked up. And now
Speaker 1: in New York City you can smoke right in front
Speaker 1: of the police. Ever thought this day would happen?
Speaker 3: No, I did it. I mean, actually I did, but
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was reality, like I thought.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking some crazy ship like you.
Speaker 1: Doing Amsterdam would just be Amsterdam and that's it.
Speaker 3: I mean even over there, you had to go and
Speaker 3: the smoke shots, like you couldn't just smoke on the street,
Speaker 3: like that ship is recreational, like you can just smoke.
Speaker 3: But and they're removing it from pissed tests. They're not
Speaker 3: drug testing people from marijuana. They they left it out
Speaker 3: of the NBA. They do it for like for all approbation,
Speaker 3: and people like what the hell? You know what I mean,
Speaker 3: people like smoke a little weed in it going back
Speaker 3: to jail man, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of motherfuckers I know, need to smokes
Speaker 1: the weed.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just smoke a little, just smoke a little.
Speaker 3: But you deserve to be.
Speaker 1: On the streets, you.
Speaker 4: Need you need to be in jail. I'm very happy
Speaker 4: about that, and uh yeah, I think a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Are gonna benefit from it.
Speaker 1: Right now, you said that you're overseas with the Khalifa cut. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we're in Amsterdam now or you've been in Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: We're in Amsterdam, We're going to Thailand. We're Germany.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, those are a few places the UK.
Speaker 1: You know what part of Germany?
Speaker 4: No, just the whole country.
Speaker 1: Dog, just Germany, Germany.
Speaker 3: German weed. Bro. It's like saying we do mushrooms over there,
Speaker 3: too much of it. You got the psychedelic mushrooms over here?
Speaker 3: You got some chocolates, all right, let's get it well
Speaker 3: off camera, because you know, I feel those are crazy.
Speaker 3: Where the fun did you get them from? That's that, Eric, Bro,
Speaker 3: there's a home and that. I had some of them
Speaker 3: at Coachella one time. I was just laying down on
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 1: Bro, I'm gonna do champage.
Speaker 2: Yeah Realax, Borys, I don't want you to lay down
Speaker 2: on the ground right now.
Speaker 3: We all just that's what you lay down and do
Speaker 3: the podcast, bro, just like Marvin get.
Speaker 1: Do you take a big piece like that? Oh no?
Speaker 1: Talking about yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, THEMN ship. So have you fucked up right there? Yes,
Speaker 3: there's a whole eighth in there. That's that's a that's
Speaker 3: an eighth.
Speaker 6: Whoa, it's not people seven?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: The one I had had yeah, the one I had
Speaker 3: was was the whole eighth and just that little ass chocolate.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was on a roller coaster. All right,
Speaker 3: he's your real friend or your brother, like whatever it is.
Speaker 3: He likes you.
Speaker 1: But I felt I felt prepare. Pressure with Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: was to ship.
Speaker 3: He gave you arooms chocolate, but I love Mike Tysons.
Speaker 2: Raw like that, give it the chocolate ones. But it
Speaker 2: was a life podcast in front of an audience.
Speaker 1: But by the way, he wasn't aggressive at all, but
Speaker 1: in my mind he was like yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: I feel aggress this ship.
Speaker 1: Mikes, Like, you never know, was this your first time
Speaker 1: meeting Mike Tyson? You just did a show I met
Speaker 1: him before, so and you you met you met STONA
Speaker 1: Tyson because it's a different version where he didn't get stone.
Speaker 4: Him and I did.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: I met him when he wasn't getting thrown. He was
Speaker 4: always nice to me.
Speaker 3: He's a cool dude.
Speaker 1: It's a cool dude. But this is he just this
Speaker 1: version of Mi.
Speaker 3: He just seemed like one of them dudes like, don't
Speaker 3: funk with the type dudes, you know, don't play with
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: All that playing around and ship like some niggas don't
Speaker 4: like that ship.
Speaker 1: I remember, it's funny as hell. You fan gave him
Speaker 1: a smoke Chaps joint. He took the Smoke Champs joint
Speaker 1: out just getting back to you held it.
Speaker 4: I was like, he loves weeds. He's all about that weed.
Speaker 1: And you did you also just play George playing Where
Speaker 1: did you play it back? Uh.
Speaker 3: It's this movie called Spinning Gold that just came out.
Speaker 3: It's in theaters. It's about the story of Cosablanca Records,
Speaker 3: Neil and all the homies who started up this record
Speaker 3: label that hosted a bunch of legendary acts kiss the
Speaker 3: Isley Brothers, Uh Funkadelic Parliament, Uh Freaking Donna, Summer Village,
Speaker 3: people like they just had the disco air on lock
Speaker 3: and yeah, it just kind of describes their whole story
Speaker 3: and their rise and you know, uh in the music
Speaker 3: industry and what effect they had and the stories that
Speaker 3: go along with that. And I played George Clinton. That's
Speaker 3: it's coolest. Hell his grandkids was on the on the set, yeah,
Speaker 3: with us. They were actually in the band. So it
Speaker 3: was really cool man. It was it was like you
Speaker 3: guys meet Georgia. Yeah, yeah, Hell Yeah, we smoked helloween.
Speaker 3: He was here right before I met him in person.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, I was just down there, blah
Speaker 3: bah blah, smokes hello.
Speaker 1: We I thought it was a joke because there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to make the older guys
Speaker 1: drink and ship, so we're like, okay, alright, cool. Oh
Speaker 1: he kept going.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I performed with him too at the premiere. That ship
Speaker 4: was cool as hell. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was dope to rock with his band. Like I'm
Speaker 3: like a real music nerd, so just to see him
Speaker 3: conducting his band and here excuse me and hearing everybody
Speaker 3: like doing what they was doing, it was really tight.
Speaker 4: It was really inspirational.
Speaker 1: What's what's what's the artist that you did and have
Speaker 1: to work with that you would love to work with?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I haven't worked with Hell yet. Any smokes
Speaker 3: weed now too, So that's pretty cool. I want to
Speaker 3: work with hull Man. That'll be fun. I want to
Speaker 3: speak no noise for that, and they get ahold stone man, you.
Speaker 1: Are ready for quick time?
Speaker 3: Ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to explain the russ. Yeah, we give
Speaker 1: you two names places and things.
Speaker 2: You pick one or if you pick neither or both
Speaker 2: were drinking or smoking, you could take a shot.
Speaker 3: I guess the Ukah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, before we start that, did you invent
Speaker 1: cush ups?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't, Okay, so I did it?
Speaker 1: So like like the game of ping beer pong, what
Speaker 1: is the legendary story or cush ups?
Speaker 3: Cush ups is you take ten puffs and you hold
Speaker 3: it in until you can't until you you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: can you do cush up? If you if you can,
Speaker 3: if you can achieve ten, if you can achieve ten,
Speaker 3: and that's like the you know, the respect active number
Speaker 3: of cush ups. So if you don't make it attendant
Speaker 3: and then you tap out and you still need to
Speaker 3: work on your lungs. You need to get your cush
Speaker 3: ups together.
Speaker 2: You need to get it.
Speaker 3: You need to get it together. Yeah. Hey, bro, I've
Speaker 3: seen some of the best folds, so it's all good man,
Speaker 3: don't even worry about it. Tony and Tripp takes practice
Speaker 3: a dab dab.
Speaker 1: I smoke.
Speaker 3: You know, it's whatever, bro bongs, papers, bowls. I just
Speaker 3: don't hit blunts. That's the only But.
Speaker 1: Here's the famous, the famous famous footage. You're kicking the
Speaker 1: dude out out of the studio. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: what's this racist?
Speaker 4: You got to stand on something. It was terrible.
Speaker 3: We were in a studio like it was like a
Speaker 3: this area. He's like blowing a grape swisher. Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually offered him a joint.
Speaker 3: He didn't want it, so I was get out.
Speaker 1: Allowed you to day. It was it was almost like
Speaker 1: God's said, because I woke up this morning I had
Speaker 1: no swishes and all I had was was was papers
Speaker 1: and I was like, look at where is this God
Speaker 1: working on me? And then it was crazy. Before I
Speaker 1: asked for the blunts, I just started rolling joints. The
Speaker 1: problem is with me, I suck at rolling joints. I can't.
Speaker 1: I sucked even more at that ship. Show you a picture,
Speaker 1: a picture what I did this morning. I had a
Speaker 1: whole ship pregnant like it was. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I can't do I guess I
Speaker 1: got a great grinder. But how did you learn how
Speaker 1: to roll a blunt being in the hood? Yeah, drinking
Speaker 1: milk and cookies. Well yeah, now, but he rolled my
Speaker 1: blunts though, yeah, yeah, he wrote my blood. Yeah. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be ready for a quick time and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do actually going to do.
Speaker 2: Sonny's not here, right, Oh, so is that you want
Speaker 2: to drink from to do Japanese?
Speaker 3: The ringer is ready, got living.
Speaker 2: Colassney Sonny. He'll smoke, but you'll drink a shot.
Speaker 1: Smoke a little wiz joint. Now, wait before we start this,
Speaker 1: didn't you guys oh ships.
Speaker 2: All that about the TC Mamahuna they have one?
Speaker 3: Oh damn damn.
Speaker 1: Didn't you guys have a collab with raw all?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuck wrong, Okay, yeah, man Ra's been the premiere
Speaker 3: joint and just are joining choice probably since we started
Speaker 3: smoking them, like me and Spitter, we crossed over the
Speaker 3: joints around the yeah currency around the same time, him
Speaker 3: before me. But you know I made it in time
Speaker 3: to you know, create the law with him and h
Speaker 3: We went through a couple of different types of joints.
Speaker 3: There was zig zags, there was easy wires. There was Randy's.
Speaker 3: They had like these little wire in them and you
Speaker 3: could like smoke it like that. Uh yeah, Juicy Jays,
Speaker 3: and then elements. We liked elements, and then we found
Speaker 3: out that element in raw was of the same company,
Speaker 3: but we just liked raw a little bit better. And
Speaker 3: then that's what we started running with. The unbleached you know, uh,
Speaker 3: the raw paper dips unbleached.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: It's paper, but it's not bleached a lot of chemicals,
Speaker 3: there's no chemicals. A lot of papers are like bleached
Speaker 3: and have different chemicals and stuff like that that you're
Speaker 3: smoking on.
Speaker 1: Your joints model, but come out. We caught the beady smokers.
Speaker 1: Hold up, yeah, the beady vegan vegan.
Speaker 4: No I'm not a vegan.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, raw papers, but we got Khalifa
Speaker 3: papers coming out.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So everything I enjoy are just
Speaker 3: spinning into my own lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You know. So you want to talk about your look
Speaker 1: at company, because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, McQueen. McQueen is as a gin.
Speaker 3: You know, anybody who followed me early in my career,
Speaker 3: I used to drink a ship ton of gin and
Speaker 3: we drank bombay, but that really wasn't that good. So
Speaker 3: we designed something that was based off of a better taste.
Speaker 3: Still the same great gin feel, but it's really smooth.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people who drink gin on like
Speaker 3: the flavor of it, but this one's smooth. It mixes well.
Speaker 3: And we have an infused one that just came out too.
Speaker 3: It's called Ultra Violet. This is.
Speaker 4: It's purple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the full name of it is
Speaker 3: McQueen Violet Fog and the purple one is Ultra Violet.
Speaker 3: But we're in the same family as do say bel Air,
Speaker 3: bomboo Von.
Speaker 4: Those are a couple of our other companies.
Speaker 3: We just keep making other little brands and blowing them
Speaker 3: things up, you know. Yeah, hell yeah, it's a good
Speaker 3: gin we're taking over. You're not taking shots though, No, absolutely, nah,
Speaker 3: I'll let you all have that, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: All right, Look, is it true before we go into
Speaker 1: that currency put you on the rocking Jordan's.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have never even owned a pair of Jordan's before
Speaker 3: I met currency. I never had one pair of J's
Speaker 3: before I wanted some, but I just never met before
Speaker 3: Chucks that I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, like it's Air Forces Tims niggas wore J's.
Speaker 3: But like I had to choose, like if I was
Speaker 3: gonna spend that much money on sneakers or other things.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, just growing up, that was
Speaker 3: just I never even thought about that, like spending one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty or fifty bucks on a pair of shoes.
Speaker 3: I would go to Army Navy and get some Dicky's
Speaker 3: and get some white Tea's and shark car hard like motherfucker,
Speaker 3: that's my whole style. So like yeah, so I mean
Speaker 3: but Tim's cost a lot, but you get like one.
Speaker 4: Pair of them a year, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like for real, for real.
Speaker 1: Not in New York. Yeah, in New York week, like
Speaker 1: six pair year.
Speaker 3: Why was a kid?
Speaker 4: Yeah he was okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all right, two pairs yeah yeah, Like
Speaker 1: it's religion in New York, I feel, you like, and
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you got to get the right ones.
Speaker 3: Don't get the ones, No, you got to get the leathers,
Speaker 3: the double like the souls got to be right on
Speaker 3: there and everything, like we call them butters in Pictsburgh.
Speaker 1: It's a science to this ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we mainly were like forces and ship like that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, currency put me onto to sneakers and cars
Speaker 3: and just like streetwear fashion in general. Like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Just I always had good taste, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, but just like knowing what
Speaker 3: to get, like he put me in the right direction.
Speaker 3: Did you.
Speaker 1: Read all right? Cool? I want to make sure I
Speaker 1: want to killer kill me.
Speaker 3: You take your shots, right, I'm gonna take something you
Speaker 3: enjoyed me.
Speaker 1: But if we going, that's good, it's good. It's a great,
Speaker 1: great great guess that's right. Damn that he got a
Speaker 1: point of smoke. Anyway, one us go ready, first one
Speaker 1: tupocket d m x X. Oh you got it. You
Speaker 1: got a reason why.
Speaker 4: I have a reason why I.
Speaker 3: Have told you. Don't have to explain. Oh, both great actors,
Speaker 3: both great, like a lot of passion, both poets. But
Speaker 3: I think for me, I went and bought X's first single,
Speaker 3: like I gotta get at me dog with stop being greedy.
Speaker 3: On the other side, I bought the tape so like
Speaker 3: it just means more video exact tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gotta makes a noise for you, sir. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it means a little bit more. Say he bought DMX tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's hard, Okay, go the next one.
Speaker 2: Snoop or currency. Damn, you could say both.
Speaker 1: You can say that.
Speaker 3: You say both are neither drinking both you got.
Speaker 1: You got to take five.
Speaker 2: You gotta take five shots, sonny three?
Speaker 1: What do you gotta do?
Speaker 3: Cush off? It's different, Oh spakes of North Wales? Got damn?
Speaker 3: That is working?
Speaker 4: Ship all right, Okay, don't don't do that again. Okay,
Speaker 4: I got it on to ship.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I gotta go back to one. God damn. Wow,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, get three loose, that's it, all right,
Speaker 3: let's go y be real or burner fuck shots?
Speaker 4: Yeah both yeah, one, two, three, four?
Speaker 1: Oh, let's make some noise for heavy all.
Speaker 4: I'm in the game now, got.
Speaker 1: That ugas lit? Baby on, baby, I'm.
Speaker 4: About to write a song in this bitch.
Speaker 3: You got it?
Speaker 1: Oh no, damn, I got you. I got you kiss
Speaker 1: or styles fuck.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna disrespect both. So look one.
Speaker 3: You should go for six, make it even to three, or.
Speaker 2: I should get me high and I ain't even smoking it.
Speaker 3: Oh ye me six oh you're just gonna keep going,
Speaker 3: damn seven.
Speaker 2: It's a long game.
Speaker 3: It's a long game. Yeah, no, I'm saying the standard.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes said all right, yes, yes. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, set the twitter get big, let's big up
Speaker 1: to kah. Yeah, this is the four twenty edition. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The bars said yes, yes. The boss being said, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie to y'all. Well, yeah, well, don't call
Speaker 1: it the gun. We called it the machine. Call it
Speaker 1: the machine. Get the machine out like the like the
Speaker 1: like the area guns on premise. Yeah, no guns, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no anybody, Yeah, the machine. All right, all right, wait
Speaker 1: till the next one. Okay, okay, joints.
Speaker 4: What you're playing in there? You're playing KK in there.
Speaker 1: See if he peeped his face when he said you
Speaker 1: got there, he looked up like you got so you
Speaker 1: ain't see his face off so excited, like look.
Speaker 3: Ahead, Red Man and metho man, all right, this is
Speaker 3: no disrespect like breaking groups of meth for me.
Speaker 4: Because of his voice.
Speaker 3: Red got bars, meth got bars. Both funny as hell,
Speaker 3: both got great time in the mess voice is crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh there's stage presence too, crazy like best ever, but
Speaker 3: mess voices a little bit iller, I ain't gonna lie, Okay.
Speaker 1: All his answers is pure hip hop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know music, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying I'm more and even more what
Speaker 1: I expect that I'm even more, Like, how was that
Speaker 1: blow in my mind?
Speaker 4: Thank you many, appreciate love.
Speaker 3: I love, I love you.
Speaker 4: Gotta do the knowledge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love all right the.
Speaker 3: Drama, Drama. I love Drama. Bro I love Calid too.
Speaker 3: Cala is a great person. I did twenty eight grams,
Speaker 3: broke the Internet, all that drama. He's he's just like
Speaker 3: a pioneer just for the mixtapes and he got like
Speaker 3: I feel like he got. I think Calla is like
Speaker 3: an official ass DJ. But Drama got more mixtapes. Oh
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what he's doing right now with those Juice
Speaker 2: Skits album.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I love yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think to me personally, Drama gets that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, DJ wise, but I feel like overall producer,
Speaker 1: I feel like Colin might have.
Speaker 3: That's just I think as a producer, Kalid is better
Speaker 3: than a lot of fools. He's got a great and
Speaker 3: he knows how to put that ship together and he
Speaker 3: doesn't mind going after a record.
Speaker 4: Bro, that nigga get on a everywhere. Yeah, he'll go.
Speaker 3: And that's what That's what it takes, because some niggas
Speaker 3: will give up or they'll be like, oh, I'm away
Speaker 3: like you know, three four days. He's like, nah, let
Speaker 3: me get that verse and I respect the hell.
Speaker 2: And he's always been like Miami Cats and he's been
Speaker 2: like that the beginning.
Speaker 3: That's dope. That's what it takes, bro, for sure. All right,
Speaker 3: cheat your chunks. I gotta do both. That's a good one.
Speaker 3: Have you met them? Yeah, yep, cheered you drink it up, sonny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, take a shot. You should have been taking
Speaker 1: the rum. Okay, then take the uka.
Speaker 3: How many is that with? I'm doing five now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, it's okay, it's it's acceptable. Payment.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we already know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe not.
Speaker 4: Let's see, let's get it.
Speaker 1: Cookies are gumbo's.
Speaker 4: Weed or like weed weed? Okay? I never had gumbo before?
Speaker 4: Who makes gumbo?
Speaker 3: Gumbo?
Speaker 1: My friend gumbo?
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, who's gumbo? So homie, so homie.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a burner too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was about to say I'm a weed snob, so
Speaker 3: I'm real boogie was he was on.
Speaker 1: Ramadanna had to bring something. He was Ramadan. I don't
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 4: Mumbo's on the list of things to try.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right.
Speaker 7: That makes you like, okay, tie dollar, juicy damn it,
Speaker 7: all right, juicy.
Speaker 3: J I'm not drinking because y'all wouldn't had me a
Speaker 3: leg out of its back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock, Yeah, Dave Chappelle, he way funnier. Okay,
Speaker 3: what does that mean? I mean, that's coming. You made it.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Hookah or hookah ukah.
Speaker 1: By the way, but I don't know if you realize
Speaker 1: he's a sexy like you know the hookah. Just you gotta.
Speaker 3: Wars.
Speaker 1: You can bury yourself.
Speaker 4: This is cool.
Speaker 3: It just needs like a little white around it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And like that's the next neon,
Speaker 3: like a little light up little led death. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Sure, crazy over that?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Ayeah?
Speaker 3: Yep A biggie or punk biggie or punk Yeah, damn well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Have to go big. Yeah yeah, but I funk with
Speaker 4: pun though pun is hard.
Speaker 2: Any reason why you this is something big.
Speaker 3: He was just smoother, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like he talked about clothes and ship like that, about ship,
Speaker 3: like if I go shopping now, I'll just be seeing
Speaker 3: some ship that Biggie said in the nineties, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Yeah, like Punk had bars, but he
Speaker 3: ain't have bars like that though, Like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. He was more talking about like breaking niggas
Speaker 3: back some like several places and ship like that. That
Speaker 3: was cool too.
Speaker 1: Radio or podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about like as far as radio, like
Speaker 3: listening to jams or like podcasts is just like.
Speaker 2: However you want, Like what platform to you is the better.
Speaker 1: Quarteria you want, I'm gonna go podcasts, okay?
Speaker 2: Asap Rocky or Big Sean, damn them was both my partners.
Speaker 3: There was both my brothers. I love Big Sean, but
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna have to go Rocky. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go Rocky because I don't look up to a
Speaker 3: lot of niggas when it comes to dressing. And Rocky
Speaker 3: can dress his ass off and Sean can dress too.
Speaker 3: But it's just like a different type, like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like they don't really go against each other.
Speaker 4: And Rocky.
Speaker 3: I'll be looking at his face and Rocky can really dress.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say Rocky, But Sean's Shawn is the
Speaker 3: better rapper in my opinion, Like Shawn's a better rapper
Speaker 3: than me. Shawn's a better rapper than a lot of
Speaker 3: niggas that I know. So like when we're talking lyrics,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Sean. But as far as like the nigga, Rocky,
Speaker 3: Rocky is the niggas.
Speaker 1: Was like a shot to me something he said, because.
Speaker 3: We need to have a good conversation about that, like
Speaker 3: people need to know, like why you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: drink Chance alumni, both of them niggas.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see if it's the same with these
Speaker 2: Rick Ross and French Montana.
Speaker 4: Both big homies of mine.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go Rose though, uh, just because Rose
Speaker 3: invited me to his crib in Atlanta and had a
Speaker 3: mountain of freaking weed that me and currency could roll
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 4: He drove us around and bought us sneakers.
Speaker 3: It was like coolest hell, bro, It's like the Rick
Speaker 3: Ross dreamy. He just took us through the stories like
Speaker 3: get whatever you want, little niggas. We was like hell yeah.
Speaker 3: Early we were like, yes, it's like a hip hop
Speaker 3: like this was last week and Rose actually got me
Speaker 3: my deal with Bread.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: On the show, Yeah, Brett was asking him about like
Speaker 3: some people who would be good for branding and help
Speaker 3: build the company, and he was like whiz. He was like,
Speaker 3: I know that little nigga's about his business. He does
Speaker 3: his thing. He's actually out here in the field and
Speaker 3: he's going to promote. Like he spoke really highly of
Speaker 3: me and still still does so. And you know, French
Speaker 3: is my man. We went on tour together, we made
Speaker 3: money together, We got hits together.
Speaker 2: Rose okay, okay, Rose Sour or Cush Cush a safe
Speaker 2: on that one.
Speaker 3: Y'all want to safe?
Speaker 1: Y'allo home, Like the way you just looked over Sour
Speaker 1: like that, Oh yeah you did, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wait a minute, why did you cyrus cool.
Speaker 1: Down on the smoke, sir?
Speaker 3: But when you mixed Sara with Cush and got head bad, Yes,
Speaker 3: just made soire like even like better.
Speaker 1: President, but that was mixed with headband and Cush President.
Speaker 3: You know that one? Yeah that sounds like two thirds
Speaker 3: two yeah, probably like yeah, whatever the fractions are.
Speaker 1: But what's our and cush though, wasn't it?
Speaker 3: Yes, it was half and half. That ship was fine,
Speaker 3: That was fine, had been straight sired? Hell no, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Realize we come from where they invented the word loud.
Speaker 1: So where they invented the word loud.
Speaker 3: Loud was invented.
Speaker 1: Your Chicago. But what year.
Speaker 3: It was? Chicago?
Speaker 1: Bro, I should have go think it.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm a weed historian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was. I'm a word of
Speaker 1: story all right for more than all. Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: we don't know East coast terminology.
Speaker 3: He knows that he knows everything. I'm giving that one
Speaker 3: up to forty win. Argue about it, back to the side.
Speaker 8: Okay, so what about it? So that's how we're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so he said, what about it to me?
Speaker 1: Because sour to me, soth comes from Canada. So it's
Speaker 1: no way went to Chicago before it came to New York.
Speaker 1: Because you come from Canada, write to New York boom.
Speaker 3: Not the actual side of the word. I was so
Speaker 3: about the word loud. Oh, I'm talking about the actual plan.
Speaker 3: The actual plant comes from Canada.
Speaker 1: Canada. I believe Canada, Montreal, Vancouver area, Toronto that you
Speaker 1: know comes from to New York. That's why New Yorker is,
Speaker 1: I believe had it in abundance, so it was easier
Speaker 1: and it was loud because you couldn't like that was
Speaker 1: the first weed you had to put in jar. Remember
Speaker 1: like remember we didn't come in Jaws before. It's just
Speaker 1: so loud.
Speaker 4: The first in the draw with some haze.
Speaker 1: That's the haze man, right, you know about weed. And
Speaker 1: then out here with some people our here when it
Speaker 1: was crippy.
Speaker 3: It wasn't it was Cripps one.
Speaker 1: It was Haz's cousin crippy. It was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was like fluffy like that.
Speaker 1: He stink like it to the state once haze again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let it go.
Speaker 4: That pit that pts that real PI slip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, gave me some real.
Speaker 4: Oh my good in this bro.
Speaker 1: Breat just hold out something.
Speaker 3: What up? I'm smoking this broca. They don't even got
Speaker 3: no label on it. That's how you know. Listen, this
Speaker 3: is real. This is Drug Dealer Week right here week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm putting this. Nobody holding this one. I got this one.
Speaker 3: I'm hold on to this one. Yeah, Ice Cuban scarface, Damn,
Speaker 3: I love scarface as a lyricist. But I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: cute because the what you did with movies, like you know, Friday,
Speaker 3: just like you know, pivoting in and just you know,
Speaker 3: being a legend. But uh yeah, yeah, Cube, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna draw that one out too far. Half Baked Friday,
Speaker 3: damn half Baked for show. Yeah, I'm gonna go have
Speaker 3: Baked Friday is a classic.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Everybody knows Friday.
Speaker 3: But I think the story I have baked is just
Speaker 3: funny as hell. And Dave Chappelle, like it is one
Speaker 3: of my favorite comedians. So it's like Cuban b Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm Cuban, So I use that all the time.
Speaker 1: That whole ship and from Jamaica, what part of Jamaica
Speaker 1: by the beach?
Speaker 3: Little Wayne or Drake Weezy. Yeah yeah, Drake is hard.
Speaker 3: You know, he got fucking more hits than anybody. But
Speaker 3: I think Wayne just sparked the whole culture for everybody,
Speaker 3: like and then like when he started as a hot
Speaker 3: boy Wayne, and then when he came back out like lyricism,
Speaker 3: He's put on Drake. Yeah yeah, Wayne's Wayne's up there
Speaker 3: for show. Let's see Nipsey are easy.
Speaker 4: Nip, Yeah, some piece of both.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say nip because that was my friend,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that was my homeboy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: eminem Bus the rhymes Bust the rhymes for show lyricism
Speaker 3: is up there. But well, Buster wouldn't want to hear that.
Speaker 3: He'll be like, I'll.
Speaker 1: Kill that nigga, but with anybody exactly, Yeah, he don't
Speaker 1: want to hear none of that. Ship.
Speaker 3: But Buster inspired me a lot, man, Like you might
Speaker 3: not see it in my style a little bit exactly,
Speaker 3: like just being animated, being like more goofy and more
Speaker 3: silly and just like not catering to one or two crowds,
Speaker 3: just being myself.
Speaker 4: But he still gets the respect that he deserves.
Speaker 3: Nobody looks at him like a like somebody who you
Speaker 3: could just run up on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: just because he smiles. He doesn't say off stage right,
Speaker 3: and he's great on stage. I always love fast rappers
Speaker 3: like that's always been one of my favorite things, like
Speaker 3: growing up as a kid. His videos always been amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Bust Rhymes is one of my favorite dudes man for Show.
Speaker 3: He's a great dude man like, yeah, legend, he gives
Speaker 3: good hugs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When he talks about squeeze your hand worth of encouragement,
Speaker 2: just amazing.
Speaker 4: Love that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're Pharrell Kanye or Pharrell Pharrell for sure? Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: is you know classic out there? But p I think
Speaker 3: he speaks more to like my crowd, which is like
Speaker 3: the skateboard alternative hip hop, but like you know, still
Speaker 3: you know, fucking into rock bands type ship. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: is like the leader of that. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: Pee Bob Marley, Jimmy hen Bob Marley or Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go both on that one. Okay, I need
Speaker 4: to take a shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like you said that Jamaican, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go both on that one.
Speaker 3: I feel like the game you want to go back
Speaker 3: on the.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. I after yeat George Clinton and Willie Nelson.
Speaker 4: George Clinton, Yes, yeah, George Clinn.
Speaker 3: Have you ever met Willy Nelson? I have not met
Speaker 3: Willy Nelson. I was gonna say I have, but he
Speaker 3: rolled me a joint and I didn't get to smoke it.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonn chop it.
Speaker 3: Up with Willy. Willie.
Speaker 1: He rolled you a joint.
Speaker 3: You didn't get to smoke. It's a long story.
Speaker 1: We got, we got.
Speaker 3: I was at my album premiere, my album release party
Speaker 3: in New York. It was my first album, Black and
Speaker 3: Yellow had just went number one. I was performing in
Speaker 3: New York. I sold out the venue. Snoop Dogg was
Speaker 3: doing a late night television set across the street with
Speaker 3: Willy Nelson. He left across the street with Willy Nelson
Speaker 3: to come over across the street with me. He said.
Speaker 3: Willy said that he wanted to be here, but he
Speaker 3: couldn't because he owed.
Speaker 4: But he rolled you this joint and he wanted you
Speaker 4: smoke it. I went on.
Speaker 3: Stage, I got off stage, I said, where's my Willie
Speaker 3: Nelson joint and one of my home He smoked it? O,
Speaker 3: that would have been Boris. Boris would have done that
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Not if you know it's from Willy Nelson, you supposed
Speaker 2: to do that, damn.
Speaker 1: But he probably didn't.
Speaker 3: Know it's one of my he's one of my close friendsyeah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, we're still really good.
Speaker 1: But he didn't know it's from Really.
Speaker 4: His name rhymes with heavy goods.
Speaker 3: Day.
Speaker 1: Do you know it from Really Nelson? He just thought
Speaker 1: us a regular joint. You asked him the.
Speaker 3: Whole who knows, man, he said it was good. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't think he was trying to do all that.
Speaker 3: At least it was fire because it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't do that. Hey, I know, y'all got some more questions.
Speaker 3: I gotta figure y'all got a cup I could pee in.
Speaker 1: Plus bathroom for you?
Speaker 3: All right, Today's Sports twenty and is today. Ukah is
Speaker 3: available right now at get.
Speaker 1: Uka dot com, g E t O O kag dot com.
Speaker 3: Let's go get that. You don't want to be no saying,
Speaker 3: let's go get all right? All right, this is if
Speaker 3: I can't answer this one, right, I.
Speaker 4: Get cannon gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is just because I mean, just right now,
Speaker 2: we just wait for that. But it's gonna happen whatever.
Speaker 2: Eventually it's happening. How high are Pineapple Express? How high?
Speaker 2: I had an answer for that one.
Speaker 1: You ever hung out with South Broken?
Speaker 3: I have? We got a picture me him and Snoop smoked. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we did the cross joint. He want to cross.
Speaker 1: So Crusz join is for real. It's not just in real.
Speaker 3: And he actually smokes weed too. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: niggas who do weed movies. You don't smoke. Now you
Speaker 3: can tell. Yeah, he smokes weed. So we're good.
Speaker 2: N w a or wu tang wu tang. And this
Speaker 2: is the last one, say the last one.
Speaker 1: Okay, the last one. Everyone thinks that this is a
Speaker 1: trick game, but this is the only time where we
Speaker 1: feel like it isn't a trick. Love or respect, loyalty
Speaker 1: or respectxcuse me?
Speaker 3: Loyalty or respect hmm. I would take loyalty, yeah, because
Speaker 3: you can respect somebody and not be loyal to them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I'll take loyalty. Like, if you don't necessarily respect me,
Speaker 3: I don't really give a fuck. But if you're loyal
Speaker 3: to me, if I could like depend on you for
Speaker 3: something that means a lot, I wouldn't have that in
Speaker 3: reverse order, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the only time folk is necessary.
Speaker 1: I feel like loyalty and respect those hand in hand.
Speaker 3: So like that's me.
Speaker 4: But everybody don't respect everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, And like a lot of niggas lose.
Speaker 3: They might start off respected you and they fucking lose
Speaker 3: respect for you, or you might end up losing respect
Speaker 3: for somebody else based off of something they did.
Speaker 4: But you ain't never going to cross that man, I
Speaker 4: respect that.
Speaker 3: So what you're.
Speaker 1: Saying is both go ahead with what did we do this?
Speaker 1: The DJ Collin he did not like that.
Speaker 3: He did not like it.
Speaker 1: You know, he was like, I see this show all
Speaker 1: the time for me to don't never do this.
Speaker 6: That's this is the happen, bro, But pick it out,
Speaker 6: Florida bird, Damn, let's just chang's happen.
Speaker 3: Let's do that again, said, nothing happened.
Speaker 1: By pure drink Chance fashion. How come I look like
Speaker 1: I got drinking there.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that, don't get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, pure drink chance fat.
Speaker 2: And Yo, he's been holding that gun for your episode.
Speaker 1: You're holding that for your episode.
Speaker 3: You should have tested the sturdiness of the handle.
Speaker 4: You should have swung.
Speaker 3: We got, we got weed for it, right as momus.
Speaker 3: We got, we we got, we were good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought we had it playing right.
Speaker 3: Come on, guys, up my weed gods came through again. Bro,
Speaker 3: that was the Khalifa cushier there. Thank you that you
Speaker 3: just didn't want me to get smoked out?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah yo, yeah, fixure together. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's classic. We got it all on film. It's still classic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna tell all my friends
Speaker 5: not to get on your line, like be nice to go,
Speaker 5: I'll go back to that.
Speaker 3: That's morning we called now for real please, So.
Speaker 1: You got the two records like if I if they
Speaker 1: was to tell me this is a last some of
Speaker 1: the last records I want to hear in my life,
Speaker 1: there would be two of them. From what I'm about
Speaker 1: to play you right now?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: And we thought we had our ships together, little Popito,
Speaker 1: do not have it together?
Speaker 3: Oh that was like a timing.
Speaker 1: Turn it off.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, here we go seven. We don't
Speaker 3: care who's hey, So here we go, hey man a
Speaker 3: more time.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why I love this because it
Speaker 1: was like it was like it like I'm dripping in paint.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say you brung the youth out
Speaker 1: of Snoop, but you could tell you you were rhyming
Speaker 1: and Snoop did not want to be out rhyme by youth.
Speaker 4: That's what it felt like.
Speaker 3: In a great way and the most greatest exactly what
Speaker 3: was happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what was happening.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: When we made that song, I had moved out to
Speaker 4: l A.
Speaker 3: That was that was like my first like time staying
Speaker 3: there for an amount of time, and uh, I was
Speaker 3: living at the W and I just told myself in Hollywood,
Speaker 3: I just told myself. I was like, I never wanted
Speaker 3: to move out to La till I had my money, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I know how much money it cost it to live
Speaker 3: out there. So I wasn't like trying to be cracked.
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm gonna make sure my bread
Speaker 3: is right and then I'm gonna move out here. So
Speaker 3: I got my money up, I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm moving. So I lived in a hotel for like
Speaker 3: a week, and I was like, if I don't find
Speaker 3: a crib in a week, I'm just gonna be fucking
Speaker 3: homeless because I'm not going back home.
Speaker 4: And in that week, I met up with Snoop.
Speaker 3: We shot a couple videos, We did a video for
Speaker 3: that Good. We just talked about a bunch of shit
Speaker 3: and we just came up with like a whole game plan.
Speaker 3: And he was like, Yeah, you're gonna move right up
Speaker 3: the street from me. This is my little apartment in
Speaker 3: my little wool right right here. You're gonna stay up
Speaker 3: the street from me. We're gonna shoot a movie. We're
Speaker 3: gonna do this, We're gonna go on tour, We're gonna
Speaker 3: lock it up. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm your
Speaker 3: little homie. I'm posted right up the street. So that's
Speaker 3: when this song was created in that little amount of time.
Speaker 3: And he had an apartment right off of Sunset, and
Speaker 3: I would go down to the apartment and just pick
Speaker 3: out beats and shit like that. I'll pick like five
Speaker 3: or six beats. And he literally had the booth in
Speaker 3: the closet. So I'm walking in the apartment, going in
Speaker 3: the room, the engineers there, I'm walking through the bathroom.
Speaker 3: There's like kitty litter. There's like two cats in there.
Speaker 3: I think it was like prints in or it was
Speaker 3: two names. I forget what the name. It was like
Speaker 3: Icontina or some shit. He had two cats. And then
Speaker 3: you walk through the bathroom and then you're in his
Speaker 3: closet and it Snooped AG's closet. So it's like all
Speaker 3: types of like custom Snoop jerseys and stealer shit and
Speaker 3: Laker shit, just like legendary shit. I think fucking one
Speaker 3: of Don Juan suits was in there, and I'm like
Speaker 3: just laying versus in this closet and he would be
Speaker 3: in another room like just chilling smoke and playing a game,
Speaker 3: doing his thing. But he would come in and hear
Speaker 3: my verses, and I would leave and he would do
Speaker 3: his verses and I would come back and I would
Speaker 3: hear his shit. So it was like we was going
Speaker 3: back and forth. I would hear his verse. I'd be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, go back and forth, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like real shit.
Speaker 3: And this particular record we came together because I had
Speaker 3: just signed to Atlantic and he was like, man, these
Speaker 3: motherfuckers keep sending me this weak ass song. He was like,
Speaker 3: it ain't for me, and he was like, but I
Speaker 3: think together it'll work, like for both of us.
Speaker 1: He was, so that hook was on there already.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's Bruno Mars singing the hook. Oh ship, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's Bruno Mars. But he had caught a little case
Speaker 3: around that time, so they didn't want him being involved
Speaker 3: with it. Remember to get high record because you know
Speaker 3: it's a little case or whatever. But Snoop didn't like
Speaker 3: the song for him individually. I didn't like the song
Speaker 3: for me, and it just sounded like too like you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, It sounded like too. It was
Speaker 3: like it is, it didn't sound right for both of us,
Speaker 3: like individually, you could be featured on it, but when
Speaker 3: we came together, it just made perfect sense. Like we
Speaker 3: recorded that ship in fifteen minutes and just put that
Speaker 3: ship straight out and it went crazy. Man, that's like
Speaker 3: one of the biggest songs. They sing that ship all
Speaker 3: over the world. They singing in Korea, record, they singing
Speaker 3: in Africa, they singing in India.
Speaker 1: Party is down. Yeah, go to that. You can sing that.
Speaker 4: At the airport and then people would just start singing
Speaker 4: it with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah real, you know, we can't look over what you
Speaker 1: just said.
Speaker 2: That type of mentorship that Snooper willing to give you,
Speaker 2: so dope, we need more of that in the culture.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Snoop's really the big homie man.
Speaker 3: He's he's really the greatest of all time because I
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people that their legacy is
Speaker 3: living past them. He's the living legend. He's the one
Speaker 3: who's still here doing it, doing it, and nobody else
Speaker 3: in the rap game has a second coming of them,
Speaker 3: like another one of them, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And he was able to bring me into the game
Speaker 3: and people be like Yo Whiz is the Snoop Dog
Speaker 3: of our generation.
Speaker 4: Nobody else has that.
Speaker 1: I believe Kim has that. With Nas, it's similar. No
Speaker 1: Nas is Nas, Yeah, but somewhat. NAS was the second
Speaker 1: coming off.
Speaker 3: But did rock him share the stage with Nas? Have
Speaker 3: they been on tour together? Do they have a movie together?
Speaker 3: Snoop dogg?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm gonna take a shot of that.
Speaker 3: M hmm, you got it ready? Last one?
Speaker 1: Damn this you're doing. I'm good at it.
Speaker 3: She went to the shop. That's what.
Speaker 2: That's why we got to stick to Uka because what
Speaker 2: it was the anticipation of it. But it was about
Speaker 2: to go down, and.
Speaker 4: But it was going.
Speaker 3: It's crazy for it was coming.
Speaker 1: Right now because it was so funny how we had
Speaker 1: got college all right, but that it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Have you got college? We're trying to get you. We
Speaker 1: gotta put it.
Speaker 3: We looking for you to be I want to see Gallant.
Speaker 3: Oh they made.
Speaker 1: Meme out of that. Jefferson only get off of it.
Speaker 1: He said, I see the show all the time. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, you don't smoke all right. So
Speaker 1: one of my top I don't know when I say
Speaker 1: top twenty or top fifty or whatever songs that I
Speaker 1: would like to hear. I got two of them in
Speaker 1: my list. Oh I think I know what this one is.
Speaker 3: Hit the second one, Oh, it wasn't what I to
Speaker 3: the anthem though twice much mother over there.
Speaker 1: Man, you got you got plenty of anthems. I'm just
Speaker 1: you know, picking those two for now. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, I know you said it earlier. You always
Speaker 1: want to make global music, but it's a difference from
Speaker 1: global music and anthem music.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's global music where it's just pretty much
Speaker 1: like I would say the record about Paul Walker, that's
Speaker 1: like a to me, a global But then you're making
Speaker 1: these anthems. If you make a global anthem, I would
Speaker 1: say global global anthems GLO. But I know you said
Speaker 1: it earlier, but I just want to reiterate that when
Speaker 1: you make these anthems, are you going in and saying
Speaker 1: I'm making the anthem tonight?
Speaker 3: That's crazy? Because no, for sure, no, man, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't really know that I was making anthems. For
Speaker 3: a minute, I thought that I was just kind of
Speaker 3: getting lucky with that ship.
Speaker 4: And then I.
Speaker 3: Just started realizing, like Okay, these are those types of
Speaker 3: records that people fuk with. When I did Black and Yellow,
Speaker 3: that was just me representing my city. I love Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: so much. Everybody in Pittsburgh loves the city so much.
Speaker 3: So it was just, you know, my way of letting
Speaker 3: everybody know where I'm from. And still is just happened
Speaker 3: to go to the freaking super Bowl that year.
Speaker 1: The same year, Yeah, it was the.
Speaker 3: Same year that Black and Yellow was on the radio.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't go.
Speaker 3: Super That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah, you know, so
Speaker 3: that happened with with Black and Yellow and then with
Speaker 3: Weedham Boys. I have really good taste in music, and
Speaker 3: I just know a hit when I when I when
Speaker 3: I hear one. And at this particular time in my career,
Speaker 3: I was working on my third album, and that could
Speaker 3: be like a tough spot for artists because you're trying
Speaker 3: to find your thing and you're trying to still do
Speaker 3: what's new, and you're just you're just trying to figure
Speaker 3: out a bunch of things. It's a lot with the
Speaker 3: label because they might be expecting they have other people
Speaker 3: coming in, so it's a lot of competition, and for me,
Speaker 3: it's just always about like making the best music and
Speaker 3: being in that pocket right then and there. And I
Speaker 3: knew I needed a hit, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: And I was just willing to work with with anybody
Speaker 3: that was, you know, making good music at that time.
Speaker 3: When I did Black and Yellow, Stargate, they were making
Speaker 3: hit records at the time, so it was like, let's
Speaker 3: work with Stargate. And when I did Weedham Boys, Detail
Speaker 3: was on his way up. He already had like a
Speaker 3: bunch of hits and a lot of people that he
Speaker 3: was working with, but he was still you know seasoning
Speaker 3: and you know, shifting and pivoting and doing a lot
Speaker 3: of different things. He was all over the place. So
Speaker 3: he was open again in the studio with me. And
Speaker 3: as soon as I heard you know, the rough for
Speaker 3: Weedom Boys, I was like, that's a hit.
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is a banger. And it was just
Speaker 4: one of them songs.
Speaker 3: That I was really ready to, you know, go to
Speaker 3: war about and just be you know, stand up, like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is the record right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Make sure the label like understands the messages.
Speaker 1: And like it's still dark sounding record when you.
Speaker 3: Hear but it's a it's a it's something that gets
Speaker 3: you rowdy. When we were in the studio making it,
Speaker 3: like we were standing up on.
Speaker 2: It, like yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: When we when we went on the promo run for
Speaker 3: the club, we would just snatch the mic and just
Speaker 3: be like hold up, hold up. So it just made
Speaker 3: us feel a certain type of way, and we knew
Speaker 3: that the world would feel that way as well. And
Speaker 3: I came up with the idea for the video, and
Speaker 3: you know, that came off really well.
Speaker 4: So it was just a really really good moment for
Speaker 4: my career.
Speaker 1: Goddamn man.
Speaker 3: Hell oh yeah. And then Dallas Cowboys picked it up
Speaker 3: and made it like official and shit like that too.
Speaker 3: Because the Cowboys that they apparently they them boys, so yeah,
Speaker 3: they like got shipped in their yards that says weeding boys.
Speaker 3: They got Dallas Cowboys shirts and all that. When they
Speaker 3: score touchdowns, they fucking screaming weeding boys. So it's like
Speaker 3: I got a Pittsburgh anthem and I got a Dallas
Speaker 3: anthem as well. Jerry Jones to cutting them checks, I mean,
Speaker 3: not necessarily a check, but it's good promotion though. And
Speaker 3: they let me go to the stadium and like some
Speaker 3: nachos and shit.
Speaker 4: It was cool.
Speaker 3: Now they're really really cool about it. Then you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's good promotion. You guys fixed that over that.
Speaker 1: We have literally a mechanic, a mechanic working bro. I
Speaker 1: also heard heard you say somewhere that if you if
Speaker 1: you had a chance to do rolling papers over or
Speaker 1: you would have did something else.
Speaker 3: Nah. That was like early in my career. I was
Speaker 3: like letting the criticism get to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had felt that people were expecting one thing
Speaker 3: from my mixtape shit, and then they got something from
Speaker 3: my uh, from my from my album that they didn't
Speaker 3: that they weren't ready for, and just me caring about
Speaker 3: people's reactions, that's what made me say that.
Speaker 4: But looking back, I don't give a fuck. That shit
Speaker 4: is legendary.
Speaker 3: Like I got plaques in my crib from more than
Speaker 3: half of that album, which means people physically were buying
Speaker 3: that shit. And it was a really good, you know
Speaker 3: exercise for me to get to where I'm at in
Speaker 3: my career now. And if I wouldn't have done that,
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have made the you know, paved the way
Speaker 3: for hits like you know, Weed and Boys, Young Wild
Speaker 3: and Free See You Again and you know, all the
Speaker 3: other platinum hits that you know, people love me for.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad I did it.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I wrote the letter, and but I don't.
Speaker 4: Feel like that today though at all.
Speaker 2: You also one of the first artists working with the
Speaker 2: guys that's Rolling Loud. They remember, I remember out here
Speaker 2: the for a lot of deal the Revolution Revolution Live,
Speaker 2: and they were doing their early Rolling louds.
Speaker 1: We were just doing straight concerts.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, And you were one of the first artists
Speaker 3: working with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did that translated you that relationship still in tact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: We pioneered a lot of things, man, just by being available.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Me being like one of the first rap acts doing
Speaker 3: festivals and just bigger you know, headlining stages and things
Speaker 3: like that, it opened up a lot of opportunities for
Speaker 3: people to bring that, you know, same attention to other
Speaker 3: artists as well, or take their artists on tour or
Speaker 3: sell merch and do.
Speaker 4: Things like that.
Speaker 3: So it's really good to see like the whole show
Speaker 3: scene and the festival scene like budding and you know,
Speaker 3: everybody you know eating off of that and it's still
Speaker 3: the original homies from before and this cast, like you know,
Speaker 3: things that we did at south By Southwest that are
Speaker 3: still going or you know, reached their peak and we
Speaker 3: were able to see that through.
Speaker 4: So it's really dope.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Do you prefer doing festivals or a show that's just you?
Speaker 3: I like all of it. I love doing the festivals.
Speaker 3: I like doing the festivals because you get different types
Speaker 3: of me. Like that's the only time I'll be able
Speaker 3: to perform with like Elton John or some ship like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's really cool to do the festivals.
Speaker 3: And then when I'm on my tour, I'm able to
Speaker 3: you know, go in with the production and just be
Speaker 3: more creative and things like that, with with my own vision.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that. So I get I get a
Speaker 4: lot out of both.
Speaker 1: He any place that you can't go to because of
Speaker 1: your smoking habits.
Speaker 3: Du Bay don't allow smoking, But it's not that I
Speaker 3: can't go there.
Speaker 4: I just can't smoke while I'm there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm hearing that they decriminalize it, but I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means.
Speaker 4: But it's religious why they don't do it over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Like more lenient, but it's like still you know, like
Speaker 3: having weed is one thing, but then like trafficking, being
Speaker 3: with traffick hers, it's like it's a lot, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, Like I know, I remember Smack Dad
Speaker 1: in the middle of you know, people getting the did
Speaker 1: for weed. It was like Snoop had like the illness pass.
Speaker 1: Like he would come to this one hotel in New
Speaker 1: York and for seven floors they would just let him
Speaker 1: smoke whatever the fuck he wanted.
Speaker 3: And it's like different, man, what you do in your
Speaker 3: boss is different.
Speaker 2: Mhm, we should have the gun popping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, come on, man, you let us down.
Speaker 3: Shoot men.
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. It's not more. You guys are way
Speaker 2: too optimistic. Let's smoke this spooka.
Speaker 1: Then are we smoking that? Goddamn need know they It's
Speaker 1: crazy because me listening to repacked it your music, I
Speaker 1: was I said to myself, Man, I always wanted a
Speaker 1: record what wiz in phar real And we actually do
Speaker 1: have a remix with me, you and Pharrell, But it's
Speaker 1: not the real thing. Before it's not the real thing,
Speaker 1: I mean because I just felt like it was. It
Speaker 1: was just a remix. But like me listening to riz music,
Speaker 1: I need that fit, I need I need that hook.
Speaker 1: I need the hell.
Speaker 4: Are you going to do with that?
Speaker 1: Verse? Then we got you want?
Speaker 3: I need?
Speaker 1: I want to go with me and you, Pharrell, get him.
Speaker 1: We need to go in the studio and make it
Speaker 1: feel good record.
Speaker 4: You gotta spark it though, I'm smarked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am smarked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta spark it like I want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like I want to do well, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not my last album, or maybe it's a
Speaker 1: drink Champs full album, and I want to do guests
Speaker 1: that we had.
Speaker 4: It's easy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we had we had a studio up there.
Speaker 3: Oh well we was, So we're going to be in
Speaker 3: the studio together, are you sending this? I like being
Speaker 3: in the studio with Pharrell and I like being in
Speaker 3: the studio with you. Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, And there's nothing like being in.
Speaker 2: With Forrell because I was able to be in the
Speaker 2: studio with them a couple of times and.
Speaker 1: Working against it's funny too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had me cracking up.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what you need to do, Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 2: What you need to work on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 1: How many times you've been in the studio for maybe.
Speaker 3: I think we locked in for like three days when
Speaker 3: I was working on my second album.
Speaker 4: And then maybe like another time after that. Okay, it
Speaker 4: was really good though. He made a beat right there
Speaker 4: on the spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah uh he did a verse on there. Oh wow,
Speaker 3: because I like saying my part and then I wrapped
Speaker 3: my verse and I was like, yo, p let me
Speaker 3: get a verse.
Speaker 4: On here real quick. And he went in there and
Speaker 4: wrapped me a verse.
Speaker 1: I was like hell, just like most people did write
Speaker 1: his verses, he.
Speaker 4: Did his verse. He showed up for the video as well, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So what producer would you want to work with now
Speaker 2: that you haven't Dre?
Speaker 4: Dre is on the list.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna work with Dre, but I want to
Speaker 3: work some more with Timberland. Yeah yeah, yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to fuck with Tim a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Swiss beats, Swiss beats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 3: Easy me and Swiss.
Speaker 1: I can see that, ye Swiss. I can see that.
Speaker 3: Would you do it versus not right now?
Speaker 1: Right now? You got more years, or.
Speaker 2: You feel that's for someone that's more your elder, or
Speaker 2: you you feel like it's catalog wise, you want to
Speaker 2: do more.
Speaker 3: I think I feel like catalog wise, I would want
Speaker 3: to do more, like just as a consumer when I
Speaker 3: watch versus I get happy when I hear like older
Speaker 3: songs that I didn't even know that they had anything
Speaker 3: to do with, or just like hits that you know
Speaker 3: they might have been behind the scenes on the side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it'd be cool to like bring that out.
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of my ship is still relevant,
Speaker 3: so it's like not a not a real surprise, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it'll be cool to
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, this nigga does have a lot
Speaker 3: of bangers, but I want to be involved with a
Speaker 3: lot more different things that aren't just whis Khalifa. And
Speaker 3: then if I was to do it versus be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I wrote this play something in.
Speaker 4: Spanish like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know
Speaker 4: that's more reflex to me.
Speaker 1: Have you done anything like throwing in the artists?
Speaker 3: I do a ton of stuff, man, Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 3: called them a body, Like what do you say?
Speaker 1: I don't know, and say the English just saying so just.
Speaker 7: Get to tell yours, LL tell them in Spanish and
Speaker 7: I understood them just fine.
Speaker 4: Exactly what he said?
Speaker 1: What did he say? Damn relax, I smoke exactly. So
Speaker 1: we spoke about the foot earlier. You think you be
Speaker 1: kicking the ship out the box, them them them heavy bags.
Speaker 1: You be kicking the ship out.
Speaker 4: You said, that's why my feet are dry.
Speaker 1: Asking no dry, use the word. I said, you think
Speaker 1: that's the reason why the fetus virble was because you
Speaker 1: be kicking the ship out.
Speaker 3: Because I'll be looking at you want to be playing.
Speaker 1: What are you training in? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do multi I do mutai jiu jitsu, taekwondo, and
Speaker 3: oh it's mixed martial arts.
Speaker 1: Its m m A.
Speaker 4: So it's everything. A nigga might throw you on the ground.
Speaker 3: The nigga might elbow you, a nigga might grab your
Speaker 3: ankle all that ship. Basically, you don't up with your
Speaker 3: big I mean you know, I just train. It's a sport.
Speaker 3: I'm in shape. You use your feet. Yes, you say
Speaker 3: you chalk up your foot to kick. I like to jump.
Speaker 3: I mean you know, no, I think it's just from
Speaker 3: like lack of moisture.
Speaker 1: That's all, okay. Yeah, would you be kicking the shit
Speaker 1: out the bad Yeah?
Speaker 3: I trained five days a week at a gym called Unbreakable.
Speaker 3: I've been I've been training for about six years consistently.
Speaker 3: Now I do weight training and uh and you know
Speaker 3: the martial arts end of it as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, only UFC niggas go there only the.
Speaker 3: Well UFC is A is a brand, so m M
Speaker 3: A is Martial arts is the is the art.
Speaker 1: All those practices.
Speaker 3: Karate is a part of any martial art. Mix them
Speaker 3: up exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Barus is the time. Don't lose no more because you
Speaker 1: don't hold that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: That ship to your head. He said, I'm not. It's
Speaker 3: gonna kick you. He said, I'm gonna.
Speaker 9: Kick him standing because.
Speaker 1: He's about the man that.
Speaker 10: I got.
Speaker 2: I'm getting smoking, definitely smoking broh.
Speaker 3: Ship man happy given kick you? Hell yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: Why am I the only one comming here?
Speaker 3: Right? I don't even smoke. You're high. I can see
Speaker 3: it in your eyes. You just got high like he's
Speaker 3: read got high like, yes, he's fucking high.
Speaker 2: Bout one of these Mike Tyson bites.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's big up to my.
Speaker 3: Flare Broat eat the ear Man.
Speaker 1: Ship So cut your orange juice, right yeah? Or a
Speaker 1: piz a unique sound? How did you? How did you
Speaker 1: capture that sound man.
Speaker 3: It was like really just living on the road and
Speaker 3: being a young man and just rapping about my my
Speaker 3: excursions as a young player.
Speaker 4: And it was real fun, man, it was. It was
Speaker 4: a good time.
Speaker 3: I met Currency during that time, and we kind of
Speaker 3: came up with well not kind of, but we really
Speaker 3: strategically came up with our own style and our own sound,
Speaker 3: and we actually called it karate. And we were watching
Speaker 3: a lot of we were watching a lot of anime
Speaker 3: and samuraise and just you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 3: crazy ass ship and we just called out there you go.
Speaker 3: We just called our flow karate, like just how we
Speaker 3: would kick it, how we would do ship. And the
Speaker 3: Cushion Orange Juice came from my homie Jake and Toronto.
Speaker 3: So I went up to Toronto for a couple of
Speaker 3: days and I was recording the last couple pieces of
Speaker 3: how Fly, which is the mixtape that I did with Currency,
Speaker 3: but I was also working on Cushion Orange Juice. And
Speaker 3: everything that I would say was like wake and bacon,
Speaker 3: Like we would wake, we would baking, we would do this,
Speaker 3: and then just randomly he was like, man, your laptop
Speaker 3: smells like cushion orange juice, and I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: I was like, damn, bro, you don't understand. That's my
Speaker 4: whole life right there.
Speaker 3: Like it just felt to me like a different way
Speaker 3: to say wake and bake, like cushion orange juice. And
Speaker 3: I was able to wrap the music around that and
Speaker 3: you know, just texture everything to really just describe what
Speaker 3: we were going through at that time. And shout out
Speaker 3: to Cardos, shout out to Sledgern, shout out to germ E. Dan,
Speaker 3: everybody who produced on that album, Nesby Phipps, a big
Speaker 3: crit you know, everybody. Yeah, everybody who had beats or
Speaker 3: verses on that album, man, Like, uh.
Speaker 4: It was. It was legendary for us.
Speaker 1: And not only that, it was like, like, you know,
Speaker 1: most hip hop albums have skits. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: I noticed about it is skits? Idea? Was it?
Speaker 4: That was my idea?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I came up from that era where you know that
Speaker 3: every classic album has skits on it, like the Chronic
Speaker 3: or you know, something Women I or fucking you know,
Speaker 3: every dope album has skits on it. So I just
Speaker 3: wanted to do it in my own little way, and
Speaker 3: of course I came.
Speaker 4: Up listening to Snoop, so they had you know.
Speaker 3: Uh, doggy style radio and uh.
Speaker 4: And all of that shit.
Speaker 3: So I just made up my own little radio station
Speaker 3: w ED it, made my own little you know, host
Speaker 3: of it, and we just went with it. I did
Speaker 3: a bunch of mixtapes before Cushion Orgies. I had like
Speaker 3: seven mixtapes. Yeah, I had like seven projects before that
Speaker 3: where I had also you know, done the same concept.
Speaker 3: But like everybody knows, it takes a minute for it
Speaker 3: to catch on, and especially at that time, I had
Speaker 3: the Internet to help me out, Like you know, Twitter
Speaker 3: was brand new, so I was just fucking abusing that
Speaker 3: and YouTube. I was just you know, uploading everything and
Speaker 3: making it a movie or making it a post or
Speaker 3: a vlog, and people were just following my whole.
Speaker 4: Thing on Twitter.
Speaker 3: So when that album came out, it was really interactive
Speaker 3: for the fans as well. And it was one of
Speaker 3: the first things to really use the Internet like that too,
Speaker 3: So it was it was big.
Speaker 1: You feel like he was one of the first viral artists,
Speaker 1: like Internet viral, Internet right, right.
Speaker 3: Which is what I mean.
Speaker 4: I would say Soldier Boy is the first viral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1: Soldiable so boy. Yeah, yeah, I would say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's it's true though, Like he really was
Speaker 3: like the first viral. I think he literally got his
Speaker 3: record deal. No, absolutely, because he was hustling. He was
Speaker 3: like in his house and people heard his music from
Speaker 3: him promoting it and before it was like out of
Speaker 3: the trunk and the Internet became the new trunk.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I would say Soldier Boy first.
Speaker 2: Which went hand in hand with the Rington at the
Speaker 2: beginning of that ring Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ringtng Era was was one thing too, because yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure that was a big thing over at Warner
Speaker 3: was like does it got a ring tones that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: He was saying something we interrupted you no, yeah, go
Speaker 1: for it bro yah.
Speaker 3: Gun guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got mad questions this it does? This is
Speaker 1: do roll up?
Speaker 3: That song? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where was you act?
Speaker 3: Was? Did you roll up?
Speaker 4: Did I roll up?
Speaker 1: That's your part of the question. How you just came
Speaker 1: up with that?
Speaker 4: So that was that was an interesting part of my
Speaker 4: career because I.
Speaker 3: Have written Black and Yellow maybe like eight months before,
Speaker 3: but nobody really believed in Black Yellow.
Speaker 1: So so black and Yello was out eight months and
Speaker 1: it wasn't reacting.
Speaker 3: No, they didn't believe in it before I put it out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: before we dropped it. It was about four months before
Speaker 3: it dropped. So that was the period where nobody like
Speaker 3: believed in it, And that was the period of them,
Speaker 3: like the label asking me to record another single. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I got a single black and heels black and yellows
Speaker 3: black yow. So we put Black and Yellow out in
Speaker 3: the fall. Yeah, it was atlantic. I don't want to
Speaker 3: throw anybody on the bus make I remember working these records.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I don't want to make a scene. I
Speaker 3: don't want to make it seem like anybody's bad at
Speaker 3: their job. But like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: they know the story. They'll tell the story too. The
Speaker 3: label didn't believe in Black and Yellow. We put Black
Speaker 3: and Yellow out and win number one, so they're like, fuck,
Speaker 3: we need another song immediately, like right now, Like get
Speaker 3: on the plane, get back in the studio with the
Speaker 3: same producers and do what you did the first time.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool, fuck it. So they
Speaker 3: played me a couple of beats. I didn't really you know,
Speaker 3: fuck with any of them. I was like, this was
Speaker 3: I was cool, and I'm gonna do it about this instead.
Speaker 3: You know, I did a fucking you know, a sports anthem.
Speaker 3: I was like, let me soften it up a little bit,
Speaker 3: but I'm on my weed shit, so let me like
Speaker 3: troll the world and like have it sound like friendly
Speaker 3: but be talking about fucking weed at the same time.
Speaker 4: And I wrote roll Up.
Speaker 3: And you know, they went with it and we we
Speaker 3: shot the video. Cassie was in the video Shout out
Speaker 3: the Cassie, and that was another you know, platinum, platinum
Speaker 3: record for me right out the gate because.
Speaker 1: That was like right on the verge of weed like
Speaker 1: kind of like being UnTaboo at the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, it was still a thing, like it's
Speaker 4: still a taboid. Yeah yeah, it was still.
Speaker 3: A thing, especially like me coming from like the blog
Speaker 3: or mixtape era, like people weren't used to me making
Speaker 3: those types of songs. But I always knew like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make bigger records that are gonna appeal to everybody,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna just do it in my own way.
Speaker 3: So that was my way of you know, making a
Speaker 3: crossover record but still making it weed friendly, like you know,
Speaker 3: it's genius.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just make some noise for that, and just to
Speaker 2: go back on not throwing the labels under the bus,
Speaker 2: just to be fair of these marketing departments. This was
Speaker 2: the era where the Internet was so new in terms
Speaker 2: of how people were promoting music that the labels were
Speaker 2: strolling the old guard of just radio promotion and the
Speaker 2: old way. That that's why they had like they didn't
Speaker 2: catch up quick enough. You're saying, they were all like
Speaker 2: kind of behind on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't understand that we were in control of
Speaker 3: our fan base, right. They thought that they knew better
Speaker 3: than we did. I'm like, look, I could say fuck
Speaker 3: this shit blah blah blah, and they're gonna buy it,
Speaker 3: like they love me. They don't care what the fuck
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like, labels hadn't seen that before. They were
Speaker 3: used to building the artists and the machine is still
Speaker 3: the machine. Back then, there was no digital sales. It
Speaker 3: was all like physical. So if I'm selling a million records,
Speaker 3: these are a million motherfuckers who's going to buy this shit?
Speaker 3: So it was a different time back then, so it
Speaker 3: was a lot more on the line.
Speaker 4: Back then, they.
Speaker 3: Controlled the publicity.
Speaker 2: You could go straight to the blogger, straight to the Internet,
Speaker 2: and I think they were still catching up.
Speaker 3: It was just a discontent they had it.
Speaker 4: They didn't they had it come together.
Speaker 1: But once your artists started to take control like that,
Speaker 1: your generation is is probably that generation that started to
Speaker 1: take control.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: That generation is where they introduced the three sixty deal.
Speaker 4: Sixety started before that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean what I mean is they they.
Speaker 2: Re because three sixty was was trying to grab your
Speaker 2: your show money everything.
Speaker 1: It was everybody. I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It wasn't having to do with Internet. It was just
Speaker 2: grabbing your show money. They already started, like you said, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I believe it has already started. But believed
Speaker 1: after these artists, like you know, start to be self contained. Yeah,
Speaker 1: self contained. I believe that's where it reintroduced itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like the three safety started to just
Speaker 3: become more of what makes sense because they wanted everything together.
Speaker 1: And they were losing money. They were losing a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, because CDs weren't.
Speaker 3: Seeing the the the control that an artist would have.
Speaker 3: And it's a way to leverage it more to be
Speaker 3: like yo, just work with us, because you'll end up
Speaker 3: making more money. You'll give us this percentage, but you're
Speaker 3: gonna make a ship ton more than you would just
Speaker 3: by yourself. And that's just them, you know, up in
Speaker 3: their game, like we're forgetting the.
Speaker 2: Napster era, like the era free downloads and bootlegging on
Speaker 2: the on the digital level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I prefer I mean when I came in
Speaker 1: to tell my shit, I preferred that.
Speaker 3: Different stuff started becoming valuable for an artist, Like merch
Speaker 3: wasn't that valuable for an artist before I came in
Speaker 3: the game. But you know, you start seeing Taylor Gang,
Speaker 3: this Tailor gang. Now they're like, fuck, we need a
Speaker 3: piece of that, like you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: that starts to get wrapped into three sixty deals and
Speaker 3: then you start talking about like monetizing niggas, social media
Speaker 3: and all that other ship and it just gets real
Speaker 3: crazy that that didn't even exist when I was there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a lot of different reasons why they
Speaker 3: do it in different ways that they upgrade it due
Speaker 3: to you know what I mean, where we're at in
Speaker 3: the game. Like, for sure, one, would.
Speaker 1: You ever sign an artist to a three sixty deal?
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't, Okay, No, hell No, I'm just not
Speaker 3: that big of a machine.
Speaker 4: Like I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't follow through of what a three sixty deal
Speaker 3: intel help get the shows?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean why can help you get.
Speaker 3: Shows and shit like that, Like that's cool, but it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, I can't go to radio and be like
Speaker 3: yo play play this song like all of those other
Speaker 3: artists play this song because that's what they do, like
Speaker 3: other I mean like labels. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: if you're a priority artist, you're gonna get that type
Speaker 3: of treatment.
Speaker 2: That's the problem with the three sixty deal. And only
Speaker 2: a certain small percentage become those priority artists.
Speaker 1: Show and everybody else is stuck.
Speaker 3: Their show a priority for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3: It don't last forever.
Speaker 4: They got other priorities.
Speaker 1: There's no shit hold, but it ain't no fun.
Speaker 3: The song yeah, girl Talk Ye Smoke Dizzy Yep, okay
Speaker 3: cool Smoke Disess Yeah yah yeah, that's there is on it.
Speaker 3: I just didn't get the name.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yep, tell us about that.
Speaker 3: I was fucking loaded. Girl Talk called me to the studio.
Speaker 3: It's like we're making the album. Bro, it's got three
Speaker 3: of your best friends or two of your best friends
Speaker 3: on there, just getting the studio, just start making jams, yo,
Speaker 3: like like old times, Me and Dizzey we came up,
Speaker 3: you know, mixtape days blog are yeah, smoked Smoked. There's
Speaker 3: a crit took him on our first tours together.
Speaker 4: You know, we really really just came up out the
Speaker 4: mud together.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to getting in the studio with
Speaker 3: them dudes, it's automatic, like we're just coming up with ideas.
Speaker 3: Sometimes smoke or started. Sometimes critles do the hook. Sometimes
Speaker 3: I'll come in with the hook. Sometimes I'll have a
Speaker 3: verse like it's just nobody stepping on nobody's toes Hella laughs.
Speaker 3: And girl Talkers from Pittsburgh. He's a big DJ just
Speaker 3: in the scene. He's been in the scene for a minute,
Speaker 3: and he's a producer as well. So that was just
Speaker 3: our opportunity to just mix everything up and you know,
Speaker 3: have something great for the fans.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, me and you got like something similar. But
Speaker 1: I feel like Yankee yours is as bigger. Whenever someone
Speaker 1: passes away here for my crew, I made a record
Speaker 1: call sometimes which is about my father. Well see you again.
Speaker 1: It's like the bigger version of that. Yeah, right, Thanks
Speaker 1: it's up there with you know, What's What's What's What's
Speaker 1: the puff Daddy Ship? Uh, I'm missing you with Bone
Speaker 1: Dogs Crosswords.
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite songs ever.
Speaker 3: That's a big record.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to be as careful as I
Speaker 1: can because we all know it's about Paul Walker, correct, right,
Speaker 1: so we know that you know how he passed away
Speaker 1: or whatever. But what made you want to like create
Speaker 1: that type of type of record.
Speaker 4: I was brought into that.
Speaker 3: For Fast and Furious sound Yeah, for the Fast and
Speaker 3: Furious soundtrack. Kevin weaver right shot to Kevin Weaver Man
Speaker 3: did me a huge solid. They were coming up with
Speaker 3: the soundtrack. I'd done one of the Fast and Furious
Speaker 3: soundtracks before Paul Walk up. No I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: meet Paul Walker. God, no excuse me. I had done
Speaker 3: one of the Fast and Furious soundtracks the movie before
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 4: I think it was on This one was on nine.
Speaker 4: See You Again was on nine.
Speaker 3: So I think I did a song on Fast eight
Speaker 3: and it performed really well, so they had to See
Speaker 3: You Again song. The situation had happened, right, it had happened.
Speaker 3: They filmed the movie and he was in a lot
Speaker 3: of the movie. But then the situation happened mid filming
Speaker 3: the movie, so like the last scene of the movie.
Speaker 4: They had planned it.
Speaker 3: They were like, this is the song that's going to
Speaker 3: play in the last scene of this movie.
Speaker 4: Here you go, Buddy. I was like, damn. The beat
Speaker 4: they had the hook was already there.
Speaker 3: Charlie was singing the hook, and the idea behind the
Speaker 3: song was to have a lot of different artists on it,
Speaker 3: so there was a little there was a little Wayne verse.
Speaker 3: I think they had Chris Brown cut the hook as well.
Speaker 3: They had a lot of different artists on the song,
Speaker 3: and it just went through like a trimming and a
Speaker 3: shaving phase and it just ended up being my verse
Speaker 3: on there with Charlie's hook, and they were like, we
Speaker 3: like this, it pasts a perfect picture, like you really
Speaker 3: tapped in. Could you write another verse for it? Like totally,
Speaker 3: So we all got in the studio. I sat there
Speaker 3: and wrote my verse and we the song out and
Speaker 3: the first week it performed well, the video comes out
Speaker 3: and then it just goes to number one and it
Speaker 3: stayed at number one for I think thirteen or fourteen weeks,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that was like my biggest record and hell yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just a huge, huge fucking moment.
Speaker 1: Yea, because that's crazy that you have like some of
Speaker 1: the most beautifulest record Yeah, and you got one record
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, it makes everyone cry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean it's a blessing. Like
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know. I lost my brother
Speaker 3: as well, and at that time, I knew he was
Speaker 3: going to pass because he passed from cancer and he
Speaker 3: decided not to get treatment, and so yeah, I was
Speaker 3: dealing with that as well. So I was able to,
Speaker 3: you know, write real feelings. It wasn't just like I
Speaker 3: was just talking about you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: there's real feelings in that song. And that's why people
Speaker 3: are able to connect with it, because you know that's
Speaker 3: gonna last forever. Like you know, sadly, death is a
Speaker 3: part of life. It's fucking guaranteed. And you know, people
Speaker 3: die every day, Garant, you know what I'm saying. People
Speaker 3: lose something or there's just hard ship to hold onto.
Speaker 3: In the song, it can help you get through it,
Speaker 3: it can help you deal with it.
Speaker 4: It can help you, you know what I'm saying, remember
Speaker 4: that ship.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a blessing more than anything to
Speaker 3: be able to be a part of those moments in
Speaker 3: people's lives. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about Mac Miller? You know, I know you
Speaker 1: guys have yeah yeah, rest of peace? Yeah, rest peace
Speaker 1: for a walker. But you want to speak about anything like, well,
Speaker 1: Mac Miller, you guys relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mac was a really good friend of mine. Super talented, Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: hella talented, represented pittsburghh Yeah, represented the Burgh tremendously and
Speaker 3: just carved his own way. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: he can't. He came up at a time where everything
Speaker 3: was still finding directions, so it was like you could
Speaker 3: be this, so you could be that.
Speaker 4: But he made his own way.
Speaker 3: And uh, the way that his fans respect him and
Speaker 3: love him and people cherish his music is Uh, it's beautiful, man,
Speaker 3: the way that they keep him and keep him going.
Speaker 3: And it's it's super sad that what happened to him
Speaker 3: and what it represented, because I was talking to one
Speaker 3: of my homies the other day and he was just saying.
Speaker 1: How.
Speaker 3: For a whole era of people Max spoke to you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So like losing him, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like a lesson to them. But it's also like
Speaker 3: really sad that that's the way that they had to
Speaker 3: learn that.
Speaker 1: Where did you Matt Miller Meat.
Speaker 3: He's younger than me. He went to my high school,
Speaker 3: but I didn't actually meet him. Yeah, I didn't actually
Speaker 3: meet him in high school. I met him at the studio,
Speaker 3: just like pulling up. I would be there with my homies,
Speaker 3: or I would go away for tour and I would
Speaker 3: come back and they would be in the front room
Speaker 3: making their little joints or shooting videos or just running
Speaker 3: around the city like you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 3: kind of made a name for themselves, and that's how
Speaker 3: I got on to them.
Speaker 2: Was there ever any kind of competition being from the city.
Speaker 2: Nah No, No.
Speaker 3: I think it's always about embracing, like especially the people
Speaker 3: who coming up after you, like you have to embrace
Speaker 3: them and kind of just show them the right thing
Speaker 3: to do or how to do it or what what
Speaker 3: what a good example of that looks like, and then
Speaker 3: they're able to take it on their own and define
Speaker 3: it for what they wanted to be. But to compete
Speaker 3: with them, like, that's not the way of like hell no,
Speaker 3: never that, hell no.
Speaker 1: Now, recently me and you spoke awful line because we
Speaker 1: were both bringing our kids. It's goddamn WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: That was dope.
Speaker 1: I did not go. Yeah, I went, the kids, got
Speaker 1: them there, everything went yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. But did I seen you there? I
Speaker 1: seen you there? Are you a wrestling fan? Yeah? Put
Speaker 1: us on? What is Snoop was in it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Snoop was actually a lot yeah, Snooping crazy? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Snoop was in there?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, ship. I used to watch well, I
Speaker 3: watched wrestling before it was w W.
Speaker 2: I watched yeah, when I was a kid, I was
Speaker 2: into Yes, So I was like.
Speaker 11: The whole cold uh, roddy Roddy Piper, that's my that's
Speaker 11: my undertaker, Sean Michael, that's.
Speaker 3: Heart heart uh uh.
Speaker 4: Nation of Domination.
Speaker 3: Him in the.
Speaker 1: Eighties and love sting sting r fla fla WLD.
Speaker 3: But he came back. He can't.
Speaker 1: He's a super leg play out here smoking blunt somebody's
Speaker 1: super legs.
Speaker 4: There was hell in it.
Speaker 3: He was before w W. He was. He was the
Speaker 3: Square Regeneration.
Speaker 1: Drinking private rejects like.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: That's that's some rapper ship right there. He was like,
Speaker 1: no wearing limo haven't bright but jet flying. I was like,
Speaker 1: why up?
Speaker 2: That's bars, you know, I see Ric Flair at a
Speaker 2: at insane posse, at the gathering, at the gathering of
Speaker 2: the Juggalos.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't, this is wile saying.
Speaker 1: And he went on stage.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think he was hold he said, yeah.
Speaker 2: But then you know out there the Juggalos they throw
Speaker 2: up I don't know what that that that that bottle
Speaker 2: of It's like soda, these big ass soda bottles.
Speaker 1: What is called out where they from?
Speaker 2: They from Detroit, from Detroit, So they throw these big
Speaker 2: ass bottles at you. But that's out of love. But
Speaker 2: ever came back, He's like, what the fuck was pitching
Speaker 2: the motherfuckero?
Speaker 3: Where's my.
Speaker 1: Where's Let me ask you, do you think the wrestlers
Speaker 1: on cocaine?
Speaker 3: Do I think the wrestlers were on cocaine? I don't think.
Speaker 3: I've pretty much heard I know something I was smoking.
Speaker 3: I heard some dark cawana, A part of you have
Speaker 3: to do cocaine. That's they didn't know like the long
Speaker 3: term effects of it.
Speaker 4: Back, you know, they were still like in the middle
Speaker 4: of the experiment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's some fun. I'm gonna drink. I'm taking
Speaker 1: the past, you take away, No, you're good, I got
Speaker 1: I got a couple of more.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, oh, go for it.
Speaker 1: With the sample, the trail. What's the sample. What's the
Speaker 1: name of the sample. It's it's it's come on, come on,
Speaker 1: pull it up. Son, Yes, the Empire, the Son, No, No,
Speaker 1: I got it as it's the Thrill, walking off the Dream,
Speaker 1: walking on the Dream, walking on the Dream. Empire.
Speaker 3: The Son is the group.
Speaker 1: Oh see you see you telling me?
Speaker 4: He showing me from Australia.
Speaker 1: They hard, So you sampled this this record. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: for those that don't know, this is interpretation is different, right.
Speaker 1: Interpretation is where you can do someone's record over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, and that paid him.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 3: Interpolation is where you like replay it. It's like certain
Speaker 3: notes that are different. But this was like a whole flip.
Speaker 3: So what happened with this was with the Thrill in particular.
Speaker 3: This was just like the mixtape era. And I went
Speaker 3: to a party and there was I was in Indie, Indiana,
Speaker 3: i think, and I had chilled with the with the
Speaker 3: guy who brought me out there. He was I was
Speaker 3: at a college campus and I hung out with him
Speaker 3: the whole day. He was so cool. He took me shopping,
Speaker 3: we did the show. He was so professional, and as
Speaker 3: soon as the show was over, he started doing tons
Speaker 3: of coke and everybody in the room was doing cocaine.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck happened? Y'all were fucking professionalist.
Speaker 3: Hell earlier, I'm just smoking weed. Everybody in the room
Speaker 3: is doing cocaine. And the Empire of the Sun's song
Speaker 3: came on, and this dude was coked out of his mind.
Speaker 3: Not the promoter, but he was too. But look, he
Speaker 3: had a regular collared shirt on, like yours, damn, And
Speaker 3: when he started doing the coke, he flipped his collar up,
Speaker 3: so he yeah, that's what he turned into when he
Speaker 3: did yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So he looked at me.
Speaker 3: He was like, bro, he was like, if you rap
Speaker 3: over this song, you'll be the fucking man. And he
Speaker 3: was right, dog, he was fucking right.
Speaker 4: I went home and wrapped.
Speaker 3: Over that shit. I just took the beat and looked
Speaker 3: it like right at the beginning, I just looted the
Speaker 3: part that I wanted because they didn't have the instrumental
Speaker 3: and I just put that shit out like that.
Speaker 4: Was back in the day before you would get like Sue,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They wasn't really looking at this internet kid, you know,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But fast forward, I started doing Hell's
Speaker 3: shows off of that shit, and they were like, damn,
Speaker 3: you're making money off of our record. So they like
Speaker 3: made up this whole little rule where it was like,
Speaker 3: if you sample certain records, you can't perform them unless
Speaker 3: you get clearance from the artists. Blah blah blah. It's
Speaker 3: that other thing because you're technically making money without clearing
Speaker 3: the record. I was making millions of fucking dollars traveling
Speaker 3: the world performing this song, and they're sitting at home
Speaker 3: like that's our song, Like it's damn, it's damn. They're
Speaker 3: bigger than our record, Like what the fuck. We haven't
Speaker 3: even performed our song at that level. So eventually they
Speaker 3: just had to break bread. They was like, look, we'll
Speaker 3: just fucking make your version. Whatever your name and your
Speaker 3: song is, that'll be your version, and then we'll have
Speaker 3: our version. It's basically the same song, but I got
Speaker 3: my version and they got their version. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm keep the collar flipped up.
Speaker 1: Yeah that is crazy. So yeah, because he was saying,
Speaker 1: like how he sampled this record, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember, but La La and New York, New York,
Speaker 1: Like we had to give one hundred percent rights to
Speaker 1: the sugar Hill Uh, Like we couldn't. Like as soon
Speaker 1: as they suit us, we just say, yes, we did
Speaker 1: sample you like what caught. Yes, you sample it with them,
Speaker 1: they worked with you. You know you could do that.
Speaker 3: Well, you can negotiate those situations.
Speaker 2: What happens is most of the time the artists don't
Speaker 2: ever even ask, and then after the fact that the
Speaker 2: publishers are coming.
Speaker 3: And grabbing their stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, So if you were to like anticipate that situation,
Speaker 2: you could go and negotiate with the estate or with
Speaker 2: the artists and whatever, and they might be usually they're
Speaker 2: going to be probably cool about it.
Speaker 3: And it works in everybody's favorite when they are cool
Speaker 3: about it, because they start saying how much money they
Speaker 3: could make. They'd be like, oh, right, never mind, let
Speaker 3: me just chill.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go to court and do all that
Speaker 2: crazy shit after the fact.
Speaker 3: And then and then especially with digital sales, they back
Speaker 3: day everything. So that song was streaming for like ten years,
Speaker 3: so all of the streams from ten years get brought
Speaker 3: up now, so they're about to get a fat ass
Speaker 3: check from all of the ship that it already did,
Speaker 3: just for just for signing the paperwork, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, hell yeah, just.
Speaker 3: For signing the paperwork, just for being like, all right,
Speaker 3: we're cool with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, this is he's the week's proper cheese. So
Speaker 1: oh fuck up. Yeah, because I was just gonna go
Speaker 1: on there.
Speaker 2: We talked about producers you would work with, but what
Speaker 2: about straight mcs you want to collaborate with or.
Speaker 3: Would you do ever do it?
Speaker 2: Actually, never mind the collab would you ever do a
Speaker 2: joint album with someone?
Speaker 4: And who would it be a joint currency?
Speaker 3: I'm down to do a joint album with anybody, man,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like bless you. I feel like anybody
Speaker 3: who I get in the room with and vibe with
Speaker 3: for like four days. We end up making like a
Speaker 3: little mini album. Anyway, Uh Me.
Speaker 4: And Cutty been working back and forth on some stuff.
Speaker 3: I could see us, like, you know, continueing our flow
Speaker 3: because it's very very natural and the the the ship
Speaker 3: that we got is fucking heat, so yeah we don't Yeah,
Speaker 3: why stop that and be crazy yeah, yeah, I'll be fun.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's one of the illest things
Speaker 1: about you is your melodic Yeah, thank you. You know
Speaker 1: when you like you could rap rap yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you can also get into this melodics.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Show, and I think that's what cutting is too.
Speaker 2: Would you guys give that the beginnings of that melodic
Speaker 2: in in rappers.
Speaker 3: To He's from He's from He's from Ohio, I'm from Pittsburgh. Definitely,
Speaker 3: Bone does harmony.
Speaker 1: I heard that much to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's that's my influence for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was a time, right. I was
Speaker 1: just like in rap purgatory you know what that means. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just chilling. And I went to l Aye.
Speaker 1: When I went to Alchemist's.
Speaker 2: House, shout out Alchemists such a legend.
Speaker 1: Was like, man, come outside, you know I was. I
Speaker 1: was like, if people don't know what purgatory is, a
Speaker 1: state where you're not really between heaven and Hell, but
Speaker 1: you're not really like it's just existing. Yeah, just existing.
Speaker 3: It's not a place.
Speaker 1: Malachim said to me and Kick Cutty at the show.
Speaker 1: Alchemist said to me, come out this has when Kirk
Speaker 1: Cutty is you know. So I said, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to the shows. Those those type of people don't like me.
Speaker 1: You said that, Yeah, that's what That's what I thought.
Speaker 3: Kayak doesn't like this is by the way I brought
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: Shot at I want to get it back at me. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you gotta do all your drops. So anyway, so I
Speaker 1: told Alchemists, I was like, no, he's like, yo, like
Speaker 1: you had something to do with putting on for real,
Speaker 1: for real is like the godfather of this like hipster scene.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what. I don't want to call
Speaker 1: the hipsters.
Speaker 4: I said, well, it's fine, it's not it's not it's
Speaker 4: not racist.
Speaker 1: So going to this Kirk Cuddy concert not a concert,
Speaker 1: it was a show in La somewhere, and I walked
Speaker 1: in and I'm trying to be incog negro. I got
Speaker 1: a ski hat on in La a ski hat ski hat, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a giant ski hat. Like they like they didn't
Speaker 1: know all from New York, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I said, there and Kirk Cuddy see me on stage.
Speaker 1: It was like Laurie come up here. And it was
Speaker 1: crazy because I didn't realize Alchemists had already told told him,
Speaker 1: he's bringing me there, but had my records and when
Speaker 1: I performed for these kids, and I was just like
Speaker 1: I had didn't know that my records resonated with them
Speaker 1: because and it was like, you haven't got a TikTok
Speaker 1: song now, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty good still.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't the same time we did the merg Show,
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Actually the mer Show. That's the reason why I came
Speaker 1: back to Alchemists, because Alchemists that's two weeks before. So
Speaker 1: it was like something like.
Speaker 2: That, Look, this shows you how dope Alchemist is, how
Speaker 2: humbly is He's such a legend, and he's he still
Speaker 2: loves you so much. He's gonna come spin for you
Speaker 2: just off just I did.
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: What is that ship called confident? You know, like I
Speaker 1: said in Purgatory, Coming Time, where I don't give a
Speaker 1: how much music you may. I don't care how much
Speaker 1: platinum you went, how much the records.
Speaker 3: You went for made.
Speaker 1: They're just going to get tired of you. That's just
Speaker 1: that's just how this music business is. And then you
Speaker 1: have to find something to transition to something else. But
Speaker 1: in that in that moment, I just wasn't confident and
Speaker 1: and Alchemist was the one. And because the cut. I
Speaker 1: bring it up because sweet man, yes, it's god damn.
Speaker 4: To cutting.
Speaker 1: So what you like you.
Speaker 3: Forgetting your swagger back?
Speaker 1: What do you like more making the record or performing
Speaker 1: the record?
Speaker 4: I don't like either one least.
Speaker 1: Your career.
Speaker 3: Nah. I love creating it because it's so fun to
Speaker 3: just have this idea that doesn't exist and to make
Speaker 3: it real right. And I love performing it because you're
Speaker 3: doing the same thing. You're making people believe in some
Speaker 3: shit that you create that only youth, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And then it starts to like it starts to like
Speaker 3: develop into this like experiment where it's like I'm playing
Speaker 3: with people where it's like I'm in the studio, like
Speaker 3: I know they're going to go crazy for this, and
Speaker 3: then they actually do. I'm like, what the fuck? Like
Speaker 3: it works like you know what I mean, I just
Speaker 3: make this shit. It's like magic. You know, it's fun,
Speaker 3: as Helle, it's so fun. I get a kick out
Speaker 3: of that shit. And you know, I feel like the
Speaker 3: people they get a sense of that too. They're like,
Speaker 3: this dude is having a good time with us, Like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I enjoy both. I
Speaker 3: enjoyed experience of both. I love performing brand new records.
Speaker 3: I love performing hits, songs that are out for freaking ten,
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen. I love doing all that shit.
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm gonna take a shot. But then I got
Speaker 1: to ask you about that brand new record shop Yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, get that. Brand new records are the toughest
Speaker 1: thing to perform. So where you saying you like to
Speaker 1: perform this sat in like intimate situations?
Speaker 2: Nah, if you're like the rest of a brand new
Speaker 2: record at a festival, nigga, get the fuck three verses.
Speaker 3: Let's go, y'all gonna listen to this whole song. That's
Speaker 3: what music is, man, It's making people believe.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for something specific when you do that
Speaker 2: new record to that audience?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 3: If I if I make this song in a room
Speaker 3: and it's just me, and if I can make it
Speaker 3: go crazy, I know a million people or however many
Speaker 3: people I'm imagining a million, it's probably fifty thousand and
Speaker 3: sixty or whatever.
Speaker 4: I know I can make y'all go crazy.
Speaker 3: If I could make a room full of nobody go crazy,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. I can feel that.
Speaker 2: You say the udio that's your homies though then my
Speaker 2: homies ain't there.
Speaker 3: It's just me. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not talking to
Speaker 3: no nigga, Like you know what I'm saying. I'm mapping
Speaker 3: this shit out in my head, like what feels good
Speaker 3: and what doesn't? What would embarrass me If I was
Speaker 3: in front of one hundred thousand people, that shit is
Speaker 3: still embarrassing. If I'm sitting there by myself. You did
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I don't got to go out there
Speaker 3: gauge of it while I.
Speaker 4: Know I do.
Speaker 3: I got a great taste, I got great timing. I'm
Speaker 3: confident in all of that shit. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 3: just experimenting on people. But I know I'm coming up
Speaker 3: with the fucking game plan right then and there. So
Speaker 3: if I say it in a song, or if I
Speaker 3: map it out for the song to lead up into this,
Speaker 3: you're gonna do a certain thing when it comes on.
Speaker 4: I'm just walking you into it.
Speaker 3: So when I do it on stage, I'm just doing
Speaker 3: what I already knew was gonna happen. I'm just trying
Speaker 3: it out on y'all and it works, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell yeah. But that's what music is. That's why
Speaker 3: I enjoy different genres of music. A lot of people
Speaker 3: get so caught up on like listening to their favorite
Speaker 3: rap song or their most nostalgic song. They don't put
Speaker 3: on shit that they never heard before, and they don't
Speaker 3: understand how to, you know, go through the music and
Speaker 3: learn the sequencing and why you actually like a song,
Speaker 3: or why you know the lyrics to a song. And
Speaker 3: that's why country music and pop music is so you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, easy to catch on to because
Speaker 3: they write the lyrics to where you can learn the
Speaker 3: hook and the pre hook as you're listening to it,
Speaker 3: so before the song is even over, you know the
Speaker 3: whole motherfucking song. You might want to hear that bitch again.
Speaker 3: Or by the time you hear it again, you know
Speaker 3: how to sing it, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 3: that's what a great performance is to me. If I
Speaker 3: could show up and I don't even know the band
Speaker 3: or know the lyrics to the song, and I end
Speaker 3: up liking it, end up singing it, that's a great song.
Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying, and that's what I bring
Speaker 4: with my music.
Speaker 3: That's what I bring with my performance, and that's why
Speaker 3: I'm so confident to perform a song that nobody ever
Speaker 3: heard for the first time front of fifty thousand goddamn
Speaker 3: make some noose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what country did you performed that? Were you most
Speaker 2: surprised at?
Speaker 1: At?
Speaker 3: China? China? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What part of China?
Speaker 3: Nigga China China? That part They ain't speaking no English
Speaker 3: over there, and they're singing that ship dog.
Speaker 1: That must have been a piece I can't sing in Chinese.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I'm like, damn, like, maybe I
Speaker 3: should learn one of you all songs the way y'all
Speaker 3: singing my ship.
Speaker 2: Which would be the ill thing for a lot of
Speaker 2: artists to do. Yeah, because it made me think, we
Speaker 2: don't ever do.
Speaker 3: That for them. Bro, we're so American the country English. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but we don't speak none of the language. You know,
Speaker 3: we don't even try, don't. We're mad?
Speaker 1: Like we don't listen? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hell no, no sleep?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 1: Did you get no sleep? Making that record?
Speaker 4: That was a crazy time too.
Speaker 3: Pretty much the whole time I did Rolling Papers, I
Speaker 3: was just partying my ass off, and yeah, so I
Speaker 3: got in the studio with Bennie Blanco.
Speaker 4: He's cool as hell.
Speaker 3: Uh at the time, he wasn't. I don't even think
Speaker 3: he was wearing shoes. I wanted to say not not sneakers,
Speaker 3: but like, I don't think he was wearing shoes at all,
Speaker 3: socks either.
Speaker 4: Just toes out, I fucked with it heavy.
Speaker 1: It was cool he taught you.
Speaker 3: No, I would have learned from him. I had moisturized
Speaker 3: before I put him out. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, no, he was.
Speaker 3: He's super cool. We vibed like as soon as we
Speaker 3: soon as we met each other. And that was another
Speaker 3: song that was more crossover because the beat kind of
Speaker 3: sounded like alternative, like rock and roll to me.
Speaker 4: But I like that type of ship.
Speaker 3: That's what I came up on, Like, so I wanted
Speaker 3: to write like a you know, my own kind of
Speaker 3: college red cup anthem, and uh that's yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what No Sleep was And it did really well. The
Speaker 3: video did well. The song ended up going platinum. It
Speaker 3: was another song off of Rolling Papers that you know,
Speaker 3: if I perform it now, people just it's like helling
Speaker 3: nostalgic for them like they remember the moment that ship dropped,
Speaker 3: which is really cool to have them type of records.
Speaker 1: Man, Oh yeah, you have a fuck with the beach Boys.
Speaker 4: That was funny when you said that. To get it,
Speaker 4: I got a.
Speaker 1: Beach boy sampled something and involved them and I.
Speaker 3: Don't know about said, but I would put them in
Speaker 3: the studio, just straight up work with them, niggas, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like something completely big. Are they all alive.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm fucking I assume that live.
Speaker 4: They they seem pretty hell.
Speaker 3: One of the dudes passed away.
Speaker 4: They seem pretty healthy.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: You ever saw that movie, the movie about the one
Speaker 2: dude from the Beach Boys that no, it's just wild,
Speaker 2: It's just I'm not talking about it.
Speaker 3: I don't up.
Speaker 1: Was that the one like his dad was like, it's
Speaker 1: all fucked up?
Speaker 3: Is that the same funked up I'm.
Speaker 1: A beach boy guy. You don't know the Beach Boys? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I just know this music.
Speaker 2: The dude the main like the dude who like music,
Speaker 2: he was what I can't I I don't remember, So
Speaker 2: I don't funk it up.
Speaker 3: I think we're fucking thinking about the same fucked up.
Speaker 1: Ass ship up it's not crazy. It's up a beach boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I get some dark ship. Yeah, it's ship
Speaker 3: when I go. They had to make that happy ass music.
Speaker 2: Bro, you.
Speaker 3: Have never seen the movie this all You got to
Speaker 3: see that movie. Oh my God knows what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah that not long God, not Love and Mercy.
Speaker 2: That movie crazy. You gotta watch that ship. It's called
Speaker 2: love and it's dark. It's about the beach boy about Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's one of the main dudes that wrote a lot
Speaker 2: of the music.
Speaker 4: So I'm actually not a beach.
Speaker 3: Boy with the inspiration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you lived somewhere else, like internationally, like your parents,
Speaker 2: the military parents.
Speaker 4: Definitely in the middle.
Speaker 3: I was born in North Dakota.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I lived in Japan.
Speaker 1: Really exists north of South Dakota.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, this nigga said exists.
Speaker 1: They just made that up.
Speaker 3: I've been in North Dakota.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm just with, Yes, it exists, sir.
Speaker 1: You don't remember that.
Speaker 3: They shouldn't have to. They should just make it one Dakota.
Speaker 3: They got Mexico and New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that's country and and yeah, no, that's
Speaker 2: a country south and that's that's a state.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Born in North Dakota.
Speaker 3: I lived in Japan, I lived in Oklahoma, I lived
Speaker 3: in Germany.
Speaker 4: I think I lived in fucking South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Like years you remember, like memorable years, and you remember
Speaker 2: these places.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would live like maybe a year
Speaker 3: or two at a time.
Speaker 2: But what branch of military was your that were in
Speaker 2: the air force? Oh so you're definitely moving around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was all the way up too. I
Speaker 4: was like thirteen years.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you got something from all these places.
Speaker 2: Do you think that informs your music today at all?
Speaker 3: Not really the music, No, I wouldn't even say that.
Speaker 3: My dad really like influenced my music just by listening
Speaker 3: to a bunch of records in the house when I
Speaker 3: was young. I have like a really good musical palette.
Speaker 3: Like he was listening to disco, he was listening to
Speaker 3: Bob Marley. He would listen to hip hop. He would
Speaker 3: listen to Patty LaBelle, he listened to Shot you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. He listened to Trup, he would listen
Speaker 3: to fucking and my mom. My dad listened to everything,
Speaker 3: and my mom she listened to more like hardcore rap shit.
Speaker 3: So that's why I started listening to like Doggy style
Speaker 3: hardcore rapp. Yeah. Yeah, she was more like DJ Quick
Speaker 3: Doggie style.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: She listened to outcasts real heavy too. To Mama West,
Speaker 3: my mom's the one who smoked weed, so she was
Speaker 3: like air Kabai du and like all of that ship.
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, that's where I got my musical background from.
Speaker 3: I think moving around just helped me deal with people,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like I was always the
Speaker 3: new kid at school, so I always had to kind
Speaker 3: of like assert myself or just be myself, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And it just helped me, like deal
Speaker 3: with different crowds of people. I could.
Speaker 4: I could get down with anybody.
Speaker 3: It don't matter what race, what your background is, what
Speaker 3: your age is. Like, yeah, I funck with everybody. I've
Speaker 3: been around everybody. I know everybody's family, so it's like
Speaker 3: I'm cool with everybody.
Speaker 1: That's some global ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, literally real ship. Your father didn't smoke just moms.
Speaker 4: Nah, my dad don't smoke weed.
Speaker 3: He'll hit a little bit of weed here and there,
Speaker 3: but coming up for sure, my mom is the weed
Speaker 3: head listening to the Yeah shove.
Speaker 1: Im to take another shot. I want to take another shot, man.
Speaker 1: Whereas like I said, man, I show what's about giving
Speaker 1: people their flowers? You definitely deserve your flowers. You're a legend.
Speaker 3: Thanks dude, you're.
Speaker 1: Out here doing this ship. Continue to be an inspiration
Speaker 1: to me, Like I love watching you. I love continue
Speaker 1: to see you have success and continue to be happy.
Speaker 1: That's a that's an actual, uh something we should all
Speaker 1: salute now for really, because this game is a roller coaster.
Speaker 1: Like you know, being a rapper, we can't have a
Speaker 1: bad day. If you want to have a bad day
Speaker 1: and you come outside, it's always somebody that want to
Speaker 1: take a picture. So it's somebody that want to you know,
Speaker 1: have a hug or whatever. So you know, I know
Speaker 1: how hard it is to be famous and to maintain
Speaker 1: this and to maintain you know, being level headed. So
Speaker 1: I just want to commend you, salute you, thank you,
Speaker 1: and tell you we love you and respect you over here.
Speaker 1: So I love curious. I'm drinking all this goddamn Japanese whiskey.
Speaker 1: Japanese excuse me, I was drinking the Japanese de Leon.
Speaker 1: But de leone. You know, you know black people own sequila, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you own goddamnin.
Speaker 3: So why you ain't drinking your own ship?
Speaker 1: You gotta ask.
Speaker 4: I don't drink alcohol.
Speaker 1: He being this part out this part. We want you
Speaker 1: to sell your ship.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Yeah, I don't have to drinking.
Speaker 1: There's a gin drinker out there waiting to drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna take a sip right now. He was like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, come on, we can't have people on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're mixing the funk out of your Drinksfuse what
Speaker 2: is not infused?
Speaker 1: There's no ship right here? Okay, there we got.
Speaker 2: We can't act for all kinds of ship right now.
Speaker 2: You aren't shaking me.
Speaker 1: You are shaking some mixing his ship. Where's once you
Speaker 1: taking his ship?
Speaker 3: The palatee. My hands a cold, so they're not working
Speaker 3: right now. My head is like kill deal right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let you know what's don't drop it like boards.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my hand just don't work.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Then I'm gonna make a drink and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep drinking. I feel like boris. You have
Speaker 1: a have a shot to.
Speaker 2: You have to because of dropping the joint.
Speaker 3: When I hit, that's gonna tell I was at the
Speaker 3: party right back. Three use the bad influence.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 3: Exactly, so and relaxed Snoop called me peer pressure.
Speaker 4: That's your nickname.
Speaker 3: That's perfect, that's perfect.
Speaker 4: So that's a great way.
Speaker 1: Looking poor poor brother looking at here. That's big.
Speaker 3: Cheers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that shot is crazy.
Speaker 3: This show is crazy too. Killed me Like, I like
Speaker 3: what you just did, Like, let's get it.
Speaker 2: Let's get an honest, good critique.
Speaker 3: Thank you, because I'm waiting for the face and the
Speaker 3: face never didn't even make a face. He didn't make
Speaker 3: a face. I used to drink bombab every day.
Speaker 1: I like Wednesday you were like this, but were toasting.
Speaker 2: That's a new ship. If you don't want to drink,
Speaker 2: you like this with your blunt and national. I don't drink,
Speaker 2: but I smoked.
Speaker 3: So sundy.
Speaker 2: You didn't finish, so so give us the Chris feeling.
Speaker 3: What's the flavor flavor palette? Yes, yeh, bomb bomb The
Speaker 3: drink champs have spoken, but is this is this happy
Speaker 3: end drink? Thank you?
Speaker 1: You deterred you declined to go on a tour with Drake.
Speaker 4: That was a long time ago too.
Speaker 1: Do you regret it was that?
Speaker 4: No, I don't regret it.
Speaker 3: My thing, I'm such like a I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think the word that people use is stubborn. But when
Speaker 3: I have a vision and I see things going a
Speaker 3: certain way, I see it all the way through. And
Speaker 3: at that point in my career, I was right there.
Speaker 4: And then all of.
Speaker 3: These certain things just started coming out of the woodwork
Speaker 3: that could have deterred me from what I was naturally
Speaker 3: and evenly doing, and I just had to respectfully decline.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that a lot of people don't see.
Speaker 3: Happen, is somebody stand up for themselves and respectfully decline.
Speaker 4: I respectfully said no to that.
Speaker 3: I respectfully said no when Rick Ross tried to sign
Speaker 3: me to Mayback Music as well. There were a lot
Speaker 3: of other situations where I was like, I'm doing my thing.
Speaker 4: I'm Taylor Gang, I'm Whiskalifa.
Speaker 3: I don't want to fucking step on your toes because
Speaker 3: you're going to be pissed at me when you see
Speaker 3: how hard I'm going about myself. So I might as
Speaker 3: well just stick it out and give you this real
Speaker 3: ass answer.
Speaker 1: That's all I did, and realize it.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we'll be cool afterwards, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying hopefully, Like yeah, for sure, But like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be one hundred though, and that's all that was.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you don't see your vision through and
Speaker 2: you you give up your abandon your yeah, you're you're
Speaker 2: never gonna forgive yourself.
Speaker 3: You're never going to forgive yourself. You gotta like you
Speaker 3: gotta stand on it. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's a hard decision to make because you get all.
Speaker 4: Of these things that are there.
Speaker 3: They're so shiny and they look so cool, but you
Speaker 3: gotta like stay stay focused. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: September eighth, Yeah, September eight, Mber sixth, Oh yeah, so
Speaker 3: we act the same.
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't know what I was getting myself
Speaker 2: into boxes.
Speaker 1: September six leave Beyonce four the fourth.
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson is in there.
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson verb Yeah, yeah, he's like exactly, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing like him.
Speaker 3: Michael Kobe's there? Who else? Get it? Ho?
Speaker 4: Kobe?
Speaker 3: Kobe k Yeah.
Speaker 1: I should have knew Kobe was a virgo. I did
Speaker 1: a record with Kobe and I went to the studio
Speaker 1: and I wrote the rhyme for him, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you ain't writing around rhyme? Yeah, and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: he really went into the bus. Yeah, Burgo boys boys
Speaker 1: got damn it. I'm not asking that.
Speaker 3: Question, not answering or asking him about asking that question.
Speaker 3: I sent you that question.
Speaker 4: I want to know what it is.
Speaker 1: Hey, why don't you ask so yuh someone you know
Speaker 1: really good about I love this first break person and I.
Speaker 3: Just that's why.
Speaker 1: It's so ah my sister, I look at her.
Speaker 4: It's not a bad question.
Speaker 1: No, I've read it wrong. Okay did you read that?
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just didn't sound good when I read it. Always,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: I love that, you know.
Speaker 1: I brag about y'all sometimes, Yeah, I brag about y'all sometimes,
Speaker 1: Like hell yeah, Like I brag about y'all. Sometimes when
Speaker 1: I when I see people like you know, going through
Speaker 1: certain things and I'm like, look look how they took
Speaker 1: the Amica route, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and look how they both say so I brag about y'all.
Speaker 3: So sometimes yeah, we're like the ideal couple, even though
Speaker 3: we're not together.
Speaker 1: Yeh yeh know what you mean.
Speaker 3: It's like we we we share the most beautiful thing
Speaker 3: in life. We have a kid, we got great memories. Uh,
Speaker 3: we were married, so everything we did was out of life,
Speaker 3: pure love. You know what I'm saying. We land on
Speaker 3: being with each other forever, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But you know that shit gets difficult, and I think
Speaker 3: with marriage, like legal marriage, it kind of sucks because
Speaker 3: that has to be the end of something when that's over.
Speaker 3: But I think we're proven that it's not the end
Speaker 3: of everything, like even when that legal shit is over,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I got her back,
Speaker 3: she knows it, She got my back, I know it.
Speaker 3: And we do a great job, you know, being there
Speaker 3: for our kids. We do so many things for Sebastian
Speaker 3: and not even just for him, but we just were
Speaker 3: such a good unit for him that I didn't see
Speaker 3: growing up, you know what I'm saying, Like my parents,
Speaker 3: they weren't able to function as well as you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, her parents either, I think just that
Speaker 3: generation of dysfunction. Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 3: There was no come together, There was no holidays, there
Speaker 3: was no birthdays together, There was no it was that
Speaker 3: bitch is by my son? Why that nigga over there?
Speaker 3: It was just real dysfunctional, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like that's what we grew up seeing.
Speaker 1: I love seeing bast birthday all y'all.
Speaker 3: We do things together. He gets to enjoy both of
Speaker 3: us together. He doesn't see us separately.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, hell yeah, that's really important. My parents were
Speaker 3: divorced since I was two, and I had both of
Speaker 3: them in my life, very important, both of them in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 4: Love my mother, love my dad.
Speaker 3: But they are dysfunctional as fuck, can't be in the
Speaker 3: same room together, and that's not good for a kid,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean. And it's not their
Speaker 3: fault because they probably didn't grow up seeing the best
Speaker 3: functioning anything. But we gotta break that and we gotta
Speaker 3: be better for our fucking kids. So there's a lot,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's a lot that we
Speaker 3: do just to be, like not just to be. But
Speaker 3: it's it's natural where it's like, yo, this man needs
Speaker 3: to see, uh, you know, his father treat his mother good.
Speaker 3: He is to hear his mother say great thing about
Speaker 3: things about his father, Like that's important, you know, like
Speaker 3: for real.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, both, And that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: What you think it's dope and like, like I said,
Speaker 1: like on the sideline, because you know, I know how
Speaker 1: I know you and I see how y'all get along.
Speaker 1: I always tell like my homies when I see somebody
Speaker 1: doing something like look in a public side, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: could you not get along? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean you, it takes a lot, though, Like you
Speaker 3: got to really not be a fucking asshole, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like a lot of people are like
Speaker 3: putting up a front for cameras and they'll, you know,
Speaker 3: they'll be fucking Superman when the camera comes on and
Speaker 3: be a piece of shit.
Speaker 4: Behind closed doors, we ride for each other.
Speaker 3: Behind closed doors, there's nobody who can come in between us,
Speaker 3: not even our parents, nobody. We started our world together
Speaker 3: and that's what we live in, and that's how we
Speaker 3: rock and that's how we stay on this.
Speaker 1: You guys speak on that though. When breaking up.
Speaker 3: Now we got to that point, you know, the relationship.
Speaker 3: It put a strain on us, and I think it
Speaker 3: just brought out the best in us. It kind of
Speaker 3: forced us to look at ourselves and what we bring
Speaker 3: to the table and moving forward. I feel like we
Speaker 3: both really want love and companionships. So the people that
Speaker 3: we're gonna be with they have to deserve us. So
Speaker 3: we're making ourselves better for the people who are around us,
Speaker 3: and in turn, we're gonna treat each other the best
Speaker 3: ever because we're just doing all of this work and
Speaker 3: other people might not get us on the outside, but
Speaker 3: we've been through enough together. And that's the thing too.
Speaker 3: It's like time helps and heals everything. So you can
Speaker 3: go through a situation one year and then you know
Speaker 3: six or seven years later that shit don't even matter.
Speaker 3: But you have to be the bigger person and you
Speaker 3: have to grow and you have to you know, really
Speaker 3: communicate and want to be on the same page as somebody,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people they have, you know, certain
Speaker 3: shit that they need to go through. I'm lucky to
Speaker 3: have a person who's as thoughtful as she is. She's
Speaker 3: lucky to be with me as caring and as compassionate
Speaker 3: as I am, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So we're really fortunate to have each other.
Speaker 2: I'd imagine your son made you guys better people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one man, Hell yeah. I feel like she was
Speaker 3: already dope as fuck. Honestly, I had to grow up.
Speaker 3: She was, she was always coole at hell, I need
Speaker 3: I needed to grow my ass up.
Speaker 1: As honest man, not for real hell honesty man, whiz man.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I show it was about giving flowers. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm so proud to give you your flower. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you man, really thank you for You're really a
Speaker 1: full fleshed legend out here. Still the test of time,
Speaker 1: you out here being the happiest. I love that, man,
Speaker 1: I love I love watching you and just you know,
Speaker 1: probably for the last question, there's no beef with you.
Speaker 1: Gilli and Wallow. Y'all, y'all good, Okay.
Speaker 3: No, I wish nothing but the best from the for
Speaker 3: those dudes, For Gilly and Wallow. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say those dudes because that it seems like you, he said,
Speaker 3: not Gilli and Wallow.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: Even with that situation, I never really really spoke on
Speaker 3: it in detail because I wasn't at that space. But
Speaker 3: it just didn't go the way that I wanted it
Speaker 3: to go, even with it being a misunderstanding with the message,
Speaker 3: because with him making a joke, that wasn't the thing
Speaker 3: that really caught me off guard. It was more about
Speaker 3: him using his platform to downplay me, and I didn't
Speaker 3: like that. If we're in a room together and you
Speaker 3: make a joke about my shorts, I'm fine with that
Speaker 3: because I can defend myself. But if you go on
Speaker 3: your platform and you say I'm unfollowing Whiz because of
Speaker 3: this reason, you're a low key telling your followers to
Speaker 3: do the same thing, and that's not what we're out
Speaker 3: here doing. Like, you know what I'm saying, go tell
Speaker 3: him to buy my shit or say something dope that
Speaker 3: I'm doing. You know what I'm saying, Promote me or
Speaker 3: help me out, because that's what I'm gonna do for you.
Speaker 3: I understand it because we all from the hood and
Speaker 3: that's what niggas do and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: But you're supposed to be better than that.
Speaker 3: So I responded in my own way of you know,
Speaker 3: defending myself, and it went to a certain extent where
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure a lot of my fans like reported
Speaker 3: him and got his shit taken down. I didn't do
Speaker 3: it personally. I would never do that to anybody because
Speaker 3: that's not my style. It's easy to go on the
Speaker 3: internet and paint that picture and that's more or less
Speaker 3: what he did, and that's what I didn't appreciate as well,
Speaker 3: and I tried to call him, and I reached out
Speaker 3: to him personally, and the conversation didn't go how I
Speaker 3: wanted it to go. He called me all types of names,
Speaker 3: like out of my name, which I didn't expect. He
Speaker 3: said a bunch of stuff like real fighting words, which
Speaker 3: I didn't expect because that's not how he acts when
Speaker 3: he's on the internet. So when I'm trying to have
Speaker 3: a man and man conversation with you, why are you
Speaker 3: acting like this with me?
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not coming at you trying to be tough. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to let you know that I did it get
Speaker 3: your page deactivated, and that we need to settle this
Speaker 3: in a better way than you doing it the way
Speaker 3: that you're doing.
Speaker 4: I got on the phone with Wallow.
Speaker 3: I was able to talk to him in a sensible manner,
Speaker 3: because that's the only way that I want to have
Speaker 3: a conversation.
Speaker 4: I don't want to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: With the names that was going around like what was
Speaker 3: being said.
Speaker 4: Me and Wallow's conversation was cool.
Speaker 3: But then Gilly went on the internet and was saying
Speaker 3: stuff that was completely one eighty of what happened, and
Speaker 3: I don't respect that me and them never had got
Speaker 3: a chance to have a conversation after that. I'm willing
Speaker 3: to just squash it and let it go. But that's
Speaker 3: the real situation, that's what happened. It was a bunch
Speaker 3: of lies. It was a bunch of me trying to
Speaker 3: be cool getting called out of my name. And I'm
Speaker 3: still at the position where it's like, all right, I
Speaker 3: could just let it go or you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: because I don't want to, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: shit on nobody's platform or nothing like that. They're doing
Speaker 3: their thing. I don't have any hard feelings towards them.
Speaker 3: I don't have any hard feelings towards anybody who I
Speaker 3: love and comes in contacts with them. It's cool. You
Speaker 3: don't got to pick sizes with me, like I want
Speaker 3: everybody to get along. I just want the same respect.
Speaker 3: And I really wasn't dealt that hand. But it's cool.
Speaker 3: I'm wanting to let it go, like I ain't tripping
Speaker 3: off that ship.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's warranted. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's and I think they'll see this and
Speaker 1: reach out.
Speaker 2: They're good dude, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm always down to just shake hands.
Speaker 3: Let it go, beautiful thing, we got way more important
Speaker 3: stuff to be worried about, you know what, hostfully like
Speaker 3: just moving forward, like you'll be able to deal with
Speaker 3: situations better than that, Like because I'm a cool dude.
Speaker 3: Like you don't got to get like that or the
Speaker 3: same image that you portray really be about that in
Speaker 3: real life, you know what I'm saying, Like you're trying
Speaker 3: to influence people to take a better route, but you're
Speaker 3: not necessarily taking that route, and you know it is
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we could.
Speaker 3: All be better.
Speaker 1: And we're going all right, right should inspire everybody? Is
Speaker 1: the funk out right now?
Speaker 3: There it out.
Speaker 1: I'm uger, do out my hands and my toes right now.
Speaker 1: Ungle umbopa, I'm doing it. You take the bath from breaking.
Speaker 2: We got like five mon I'm a bathroom breaker, mouer
Speaker 2: and like that, gun up.
Speaker 3: What happened is done?
Speaker 4: What cereal milk is good weed?
Speaker 3: What you're not gonna lee it with? I'm gonna when
Speaker 3: I smoke this haze, I'm smoking on I g I
Speaker 3: might smoke the whole thing. Just put it on my story.
Speaker 3: So the White Live on Instagram and I'm gonna listen
Speaker 3: to Purple Haze. I'm gonna put Cameron's album at I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put Purple Haze on. I'm gonna roll up a
Speaker 3: fat ass join us and haze. I'm been like with
Speaker 3: the good When was our spa staying tune with ma?
Speaker 3: She's like, damn this a really since come by y'all.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 10: M hm, m h m hm m h.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is this your first time spoking to Ukah?
Speaker 3: Yes? Like I said, I'm used to the volcano, like
Speaker 3: where you gotta fucking heat it up with the bag. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the same vibe, but it's like the hookah version
Speaker 3: and it's got clean.
Speaker 2: You're gonna see this a whole whole different technology right here, Like.
Speaker 3: It looks like a like an air freshener, like like
Speaker 3: it's or fire like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I had the volcano too, Yeah
Speaker 1: I had the original woman.
Speaker 3: The bag just blow up like that. That's all like
Speaker 3: the gpin and ship like that. That's where the vapes
Speaker 3: come from. But those aren't like real vapes because they
Speaker 3: use coils and ship and be like heating it up.
Speaker 4: Hella, like this is way better.
Speaker 1: For you, Like you know what I mean, how you
Speaker 1: killed that you broke that day love, How you break
Speaker 1: it down like a science.
Speaker 3: It's true, it's a science because you're putting smoke in
Speaker 3: your body. So you gotta be careful like how you
Speaker 3: do it. Like niggas be taking dabs and they be
Speaker 3: heating them ships up too much. Like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You gotta do low temp. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Let it bubb get the high taste. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So you ain't fucking yourself up.
Speaker 1: You don't remember what when Dad first came out, they
Speaker 1: had the blow torch. Torch you still use That's not right.
Speaker 1: You still using to still control the time?
Speaker 3: Why well, I mean that's the only way that pause
Speaker 3: get it out enough. I mean, I'm in from a
Speaker 3: different generation. You play pause a little bit different than.
Speaker 4: It's fun though.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: One of.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I go through your discography
Speaker 1: and I go through, well give it from him. Look,
Speaker 1: he is the one dude that shouldn't have the joint.
Speaker 1: Let him smoke.
Speaker 3: He gotta you gotta pull.
Speaker 1: You're gonna wake up differ and he's gonna blame, gonna
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 3: No, they don't piss us for we no more k
Speaker 3: k k okay, get there, what's up.
Speaker 1: Thinking?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah that one of the one of the things that
Speaker 1: comes up about you is your love for Max b Yeah,
Speaker 1: bigger L, bigger L.
Speaker 4: Shout out the bigger L.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: This is oh ship that is smoky.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, baby, God damn.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm inside.
Speaker 4: A joint right now.
Speaker 3: I can't even see you, bro. I am a joy.
Speaker 3: It's like Batman just came. That's got to be like
Speaker 3: history right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 3: I didn't even do this to Snoop because Snoop don't
Speaker 3: play that show.
Speaker 4: No Snoop don't play.
Speaker 1: But we did it to college he ran Snoop did
Speaker 1: not he will will be down here, I think we
Speaker 1: do have it would be okay, be real, be down
Speaker 1: He's with all the smoking and.
Speaker 4: Smoking this new.
Speaker 1: Generation, not Snoop, not not anybody. Is there any young dude?
Speaker 3: Go ahead, keep questions, go ahead, go ahead, ask the
Speaker 3: question of governor, ask the question any young dude out
Speaker 3: here coming up that that can that can smoke with you?
Speaker 3: They can do, okay, absolutely not only the only person
Speaker 3: the only person I think I can hang with me
Speaker 3: and I probably haven't even smoked with this fool yet,
Speaker 3: but I already smoked. Hello, dope, it's chief keef. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I put so. I put Sosa up there because I
Speaker 3: heard it. And when you in these streets, you hear
Speaker 3: some shit everybody else. No, don't even let them. Don't
Speaker 3: let them try to fool you. And they know they
Speaker 3: wouldn't even try. They wouldn't even I don't even think
Speaker 3: they would say anything like oh yeah I can hang
Speaker 3: with no hell no, absolutely not. I don't even think
Speaker 3: they're trying to, like honestly, like they're doing other drugs,
Speaker 3: they're not trying to, like smoke weed. We need more
Speaker 3: people to like smoke a ton of pot and just
Speaker 3: buy ounces of weed and just listen to music and
Speaker 3: be cool right around with their friends and get girls.
Speaker 3: I like little Tyler. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if y'all heard
Speaker 3: a little Tyler, like a little Tyler. Tyler created hard though, Yeah,
Speaker 3: a little Tyler hard though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They said you spend over thirty thousand on weed a month.
Speaker 3: No that was one particular year, okay, yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: down went back up. No, it's probably more, but I
Speaker 3: grow it, Yeah, I grow it. So it's like you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like it evens out Humble County.
Speaker 3: There's just multiple places. Now, It's all over the place, bro,
Speaker 3: It's like wherever I like laying, Bro, It's all over
Speaker 3: the fucking place, exactly, it is.
Speaker 4: It's right outside. It's just growing.
Speaker 1: Goddamn.
Speaker 3: Do you like this is?
Speaker 1: Back back then people just coming to Florida and complain
Speaker 1: about Florida.
Speaker 3: We Hey, relaxed, Buddy, I said, Florida. I ain't say Miami.
Speaker 3: I ain't say Miami. It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we established that earlier while he was at weeding.
Speaker 4: Weeding Florida everywhere has decent weed. It just depends on
Speaker 4: who you know.
Speaker 2: You're looking.
Speaker 1: You knew me at the time. Cali is the.
Speaker 4: Best weed in the world, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sir, Northern caliy exactly in the Bay Area, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Bay Area.
Speaker 4: That's the green door.
Speaker 1: Have you been in the green door?
Speaker 4: The green door in incident?
Speaker 1: No, And I thought they were bab green doors in Amsterdam.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christmas, brother, I'm talking about the other green to
Speaker 2: tell you.
Speaker 1: The man in San Diego, No, San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Let it go.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let it.
Speaker 3: The day's got the best weed the Bay's got like
Speaker 3: the purest, stickiest, most.
Speaker 2: Paid attention because it's clos the source.
Speaker 3: I mean the people who grow it, the hippies out
Speaker 3: there are just fucking they're just traditional, just weed.
Speaker 4: They don't even care about the money, bro, They just care.
Speaker 3: About the super They're like down to the soil, like
Speaker 3: every little micro fiber, like they play music for the plants,
Speaker 3: music there and there. Yeah, Colorado weed is cool. It's
Speaker 3: kind of dry. It's a little dusty, you know, it's
Speaker 3: not as it's not as sticky as West Coast weed.
Speaker 4: West Coast weed is. That's sticky ichy.
Speaker 1: Bro. Isn't Colorado considered the rest coast?
Speaker 4: No, it's not. I mean you could consider it that
Speaker 4: if you want.
Speaker 2: To look at the words you're using west hot football.
Speaker 3: There's no coast on Colorado. I think maybe like with
Speaker 3: like radio, it's like considered west.
Speaker 2: That's the Midwest, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's west, it's not west past Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're on Pacific time over there.
Speaker 3: I think they're Yeah, there're time Mon time, then they
Speaker 3: would not be VALENTI yeah, the Mountain time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one essentral, Yeah, that's central, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which they got yet smoke, but you smoked and drink
Speaker 1: what you drag and then come with all.
Speaker 3: His knowledge right now. It makes you smarter man, kk
Speaker 3: and McQueen makes you fucking smarter. Smarter he said, some
Speaker 3: geography facts over there.
Speaker 1: He got some he said, geography say fact, he said, KKK.
Speaker 2: That's some good. That's history. Now the picture of your ship?
Speaker 2: Who painted that on your shirt? Whose artist? Who's the artist?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know what?
Speaker 3: Oh, let me say something.
Speaker 1: Let me say something that you said, t I, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, Sonny, hold on, let me say something.
Speaker 1: Let me say something, Ti I Ti I and little Boosie.
Speaker 1: I know that y'all. You know, y'all could have went
Speaker 1: to war. You could have did a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: tremendous crazy ship. But the fact that y'all showed that
Speaker 1: two black men could get together and could talk it out.
Speaker 1: I really commend that. I really respect that. I really
Speaker 1: salute that, because we need to keep pushing that that
Speaker 1: it's not always drama everything. A disagreement doesn't lead to
Speaker 1: y'all fighting and shooting. I love the fact that y'all
Speaker 1: got together. So T I and boos wherever y'all at
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I want a salute and
Speaker 1: say I won't. Yeah, I'm so tired of violence.
Speaker 4: I don't like gun violence.
Speaker 3: I don't mind fighting, though, yeah, but like it's healthy
Speaker 3: to like if you fight, like in a controlled environment,
Speaker 3: because niggas gonna get into it, you're gonna have a disagreement.
Speaker 3: But if you're gonna shoot somebody over it, that's kind
Speaker 3: of whack. But if we can throw the hands evenly,
Speaker 3: you'll really see if somebody really got a problem or not.
Speaker 3: And that would solve a lot. You know, if niggas
Speaker 3: is just square up, that would solve a lot. But
Speaker 3: a lot of niggas are scared. I used to a
Speaker 3: lot of niggas don't want to fight. Or if you
Speaker 3: could train to fight then do it would give you
Speaker 3: more confidence to if somebody be like, yo, let's get it,
Speaker 3: they'd be like, all right, cool, I don't have to
Speaker 3: have a gun to, you know what I mean, handle this.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of programming that goes with that too.
Speaker 3: But I don't mind fighting, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think it's healthy. I think you should learn how
Speaker 3: to control violence. Do it in a do it in
Speaker 3: the control environment and get it out the way and
Speaker 3: continue on with your life. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing about trained fighting, it also teaches you how
Speaker 2: to lose with grace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, because somebody's gonna win and somebody's gonna lose,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But like the majority of
Speaker 3: times when we spar it's not like I hate this dude,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to take his head off. Somebody gets a
Speaker 3: good shot in you're like, good shot. And if you
Speaker 3: go to war with somebody and if it gets nasty,
Speaker 3: but at the end of it, you both come out
Speaker 3: you're both like, yeah, that was a good when you
Speaker 3: respect them a little bit more than anything. And I
Speaker 3: think people can learn from that because it's discipline. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's good for you. It's definitely good. Oh yeah, But.
Speaker 1: You're not trying to spar on a rap or nothing
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it came down to it, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's for sport. It's not like a competition. So
Speaker 3: it's like it's fun. It would be fun to see
Speaker 3: what somebody else knows, or to learn from them or
Speaker 3: to show them what I've learned throughout my time. So like, yeah,
Speaker 3: fun I got a couple of partners in the league. Man,
Speaker 3: the high Rollers. That's the that's the Brazilian jiu jitsu
Speaker 3: where you can smoke weed and roll at the same
Speaker 3: time and you compete for a pound of weed or
Speaker 3: multiple pounds a week. League. Did we just jump league?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, from smoking yeah, saying it's the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you fight and smoke at the same time. There's a
Speaker 3: whole it's a whole league. It's called league. You smoke
Speaker 3: and you fight. Yeah, it's called high Rolls. Well, they
Speaker 3: do fights everywhere. My partners have teams. There's a Khalifa
Speaker 3: Cush team. There's a headquarters in Vegas. They get it
Speaker 3: on there and the fights are regular and it's and
Speaker 3: it's on regular TV.
Speaker 4: So it's films. It's growing, like you know what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, literally, it's growing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You smoke weed and you and you and you fight. Yo, son,
Speaker 3: you joined that league? Yeah yeah, And then I'm I'm
Speaker 3: one of the creative directors and the co owners of
Speaker 3: the p f L. It's like in direct competition with
Speaker 3: Bellatur and UFC. We're on ESPN, esp Into and this
Speaker 3: Fighting League. It's a point point based system where the
Speaker 3: fighters at the end of the season, they have opportunity
Speaker 3: to fight for a million dollars, which not a lot
Speaker 3: of fighters get.
Speaker 4: To to do with their whole career exactly.
Speaker 3: So this takes like, you know, the top fighters, and
Speaker 3: they're able to earn points throughout the season depending on
Speaker 3: who they win against and how they win, and that's how.
Speaker 4: The championships are determined.
Speaker 3: So it's really based on the fights, and it gives
Speaker 3: them opportunity to own ship. They own their their own
Speaker 3: licensing and all of that stuff. So they get they
Speaker 3: get hell of money just off of who they are
Speaker 3: and fighters who their contracts end at other companies.
Speaker 4: They come right over to the PFL and just make
Speaker 4: hell of money.
Speaker 3: Yeah yep.
Speaker 4: Jake Paul just signed on with us. He's going to
Speaker 4: do a fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah yep.
Speaker 1: He's going to do martial arts.
Speaker 3: He's gonna do his first m m A fight with
Speaker 3: the f Yeah yep. He's going to do his first
Speaker 3: m m A fight with PFL.
Speaker 1: Kicking and all that kicking, came up and smoking elbow.
Speaker 2: They gotta take him to the ground. He got I'm
Speaker 2: sure you don't.
Speaker 3: Know that everything, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go
Speaker 3: to the corner and you can take a bong ring.
Speaker 3: This is crazy.
Speaker 2: You should just have both of there with a gun
Speaker 2: and everybody the machine.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean, that's how we win to fight.
Speaker 3: That you smoke the whole ring out and I come
Speaker 3: in there. You appear exactly.
Speaker 1: So one thing, one thing you said is when I
Speaker 1: when I Actually you came early. But she's like you said,
Speaker 1: I'm a businessman, and I love that obviously. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about these businesses that you have, not just the liquor,
Speaker 1: but the fighting ship is dope fighting.
Speaker 3: Ship, there's E f L. There's Liquid Death, this is
Speaker 3: a this is you're part of liquid and part of
Speaker 3: Liquid Death water.
Speaker 4: You know, we've been growing this brand.
Speaker 2: That was genius. Yeah yeah, genius. How far along were
Speaker 2: they before you got involved?
Speaker 3: They were brand new Yeah yeah, yep. They were just
Speaker 3: looking for people to get down and they were really generous.
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, I'm not gonna talk about the details
Speaker 3: of the deal, but it was really really nice.
Speaker 2: That was genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. There's Liquid Death, there's McQueen. But
Speaker 3: I have the whole company is uh you know, it's
Speaker 3: all under everything. So bel Air do say uh bomboo
Speaker 3: but do you get yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3: I gave up a little bit, you know, because this
Speaker 3: was mine, Like Brett went fully in with me on McQueen,
Speaker 3: so this was just me. So I gave a piece
Speaker 3: of this up for a piece of the rest of
Speaker 3: the company as well.
Speaker 4: So it only makes sense, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: because we're all family anyway.
Speaker 3: And when one does one does well, every every one
Speaker 3: of them does well. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 3: seen the company shop GLD, the jewelry company. I'm on
Speaker 3: a piece of that because the creators of that came
Speaker 3: out of my camp. So when they first started the business,
Speaker 3: they gave me a little piece of that. I have
Speaker 3: Hot Box by Wiz. Uh well no, it's Packed Bowls
Speaker 3: by Wiz. Now actually they changed it. It's a during
Speaker 3: the pandemic, when all the restaurants closed closed down, I
Speaker 3: opened up a delivery only restaurant. And we're in like
Speaker 3: hell of cities all over the place. So it's basically
Speaker 3: like a delivery only menu that you can get. It's
Speaker 3: not like a full restaurant, but it's it serves food.
Speaker 3: It's Packed bowls by Wiz. Fuck what else do we got?
Speaker 3: What else do we got will Yeah, the g l
Speaker 3: D ship, we got tons of merged What else do
Speaker 3: we got other businesses?
Speaker 4: H yeah, we got the mushroom company, mister caps.
Speaker 1: I thought Sonny was telling you what business you have?
Speaker 2: Much Sonny, You're too high right now, bro telling him
Speaker 2: what businesses he got?
Speaker 1: Yeah, g l D.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll get you right yo. Take ahead of that
Speaker 3: Oka man.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Wei Farms.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: We got a gaming team to the Pittsburgh the Pittsburgh Knights. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we got a gaming team as well.
Speaker 1: Like like video game that sh makes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't sleep on that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh Knights.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, those are like the ones that are like
Speaker 3: right in front of us. It's a lot of ship's
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'm gonna take one more shot.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take two more shots. This Taylor game. We
Speaker 3: keep it Taylor game. We keep it Taylor shot.
Speaker 1: Where we want to give your flowers to really deserve them.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you're really a legend out here. You
Speaker 1: really stood the test of time. And I love listening
Speaker 1: to your music because I can understand.
Speaker 3: The person.
Speaker 1: Not only the person, but I can understand that youth
Speaker 1: standing in the test of time, meaning this was the
Speaker 1: music for here. I can make music that sound like that,
Speaker 1: but it's my lane, and you continue to do that
Speaker 1: and should be noticed. I appreciate it should be Come on,
Speaker 1: all right, now, take all the shots I took.
Speaker 3: I mean I took. I took it in one glass
Speaker 3: so hammered, I'll be calling up all but it used
Speaker 3: to be drinking heavy.
Speaker 1: Yes, So what happened with.
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: Goodbye?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Totally totally, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: What made you stop? Your kicks wasn't coming out good?
Speaker 3: No, the kicks weren't. The kicks were perfectly fine, makes
Speaker 3: you I mean, yeah, that's part of it. It wasn't
Speaker 3: really too bad mistakes, I think. I just I don't
Speaker 3: feel like I can afford too many more drunk nights.
Speaker 1: I respect that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it just it just it just ran
Speaker 3: its course like it hit it hit a wall. Like
Speaker 3: I feel like everything else in my life that I'm
Speaker 3: doing is like lifelong.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, what's the training that you do?
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be doing that for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be making music for the rest of my life, like.
Speaker 3: Brands for the rest of I'm telling you, like drinking
Speaker 3: like it was just it hit a ceiling, like it
Speaker 3: just it wasn't getting any better, like it was just like.
Speaker 2: That's the crazy. It gets better for us and it's terrible.
Speaker 2: Have fun, bro, That's that's why. That's why I love.
Speaker 3: I love people to just get fucked up, like because
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 4: It's fun as hell, bro, Like that's all it is.
Speaker 3: It is fun. Like, it's hell of fun until it's not,
Speaker 3: you know, skirt, but it's cool. I like, I love
Speaker 3: people to enjoy some drinks. I love people to fucking
Speaker 3: rage and party. I'm not one of those people who
Speaker 3: you can't get drunk around me. I just ain't feeling
Speaker 3: like in those I love smoking weed. I love mushrooms.
Speaker 2: You don't want one of the chocolates from a homie.
Speaker 3: I do the mushroom pills, bro, I do capsules. I
Speaker 3: gotta do something right now, give me those capsules.
Speaker 1: Now, I got capsules.
Speaker 3: Drugs on your fucking shove, But I still give you
Speaker 3: from my homies. Here.
Speaker 1: Look I do.
Speaker 3: I do shrooms, and Tripp from the chocolates he took
Speaker 3: Mike Rode doubts those are micro dosing though. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna.
Speaker 4: Super four hundred milligrams. That's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's why I stopped taking us.
Speaker 4: Oh but the Lions, man, is that is this? That's
Speaker 4: the one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, no, these are strong, bro.
Speaker 3: Those.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's about to happen right now.
Speaker 4: I'm about to do some mushrooms.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, this one.
Speaker 1: Take a mushroom, buddy, Look at Suddy.
Speaker 3: Yes, you already took one. Take one, Sunny, let's go.
Speaker 1: You don't need another one.
Speaker 2: Oh, because Jamie wants one.
Speaker 3: Let's go, Jamie. He's chilling.
Speaker 1: Are you taking two?
Speaker 3: Yes? It doesn't have that much.
Speaker 1: You see him take two. I've never seen a nigga
Speaker 1: take too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're fine, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: You'll be playing record again.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I gotta go piss one more.
Speaker 1: Time, yea piss three more times. I'm gonna pis too
Speaker 1: good about the raps? Right two minutes? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good looking and follow Sonny Bronny's with the.
Speaker 4: Sunnies with the vibes.
Speaker 3: Is a good character, A great guy, man, I said,
Speaker 3: A good dude, man, I love that.
Speaker 4: Gotta be down.
Speaker 1: This it is my ship work. One does my ship
Speaker 1: flying the new ok.
Speaker 3: I like this. Remember you're taking that one home? Okay,
Speaker 3: this is mine. I like this one.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: We want to give him a brand new one. We
Speaker 3: have them in the box. Yeah, okay, okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: I got haze, I got uka, I got oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be so high.
Speaker 1: You want to ask a question. Wise, like back in
Speaker 1: the days when you create or artists would like chase
Speaker 1: if you have an album you created and.
Speaker 3: Saying chasing mm hmmm.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 4: I never felt like that. I felt like what I'm.
Speaker 3: More, I have like more of an issue of as
Speaker 3: soon as people start liking some ship, I go on
Speaker 3: to the next thing and that might be like a
Speaker 3: gift in the curse. Like I've heard people yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I heard people tell me like, bro, like you got
Speaker 3: to stop doing that. But I just I don't like
Speaker 3: when people like ship too much, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, y'all like that, let me do something different.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, so I never get stuck in my
Speaker 3: ways and I always do ship that's totally different. And
Speaker 3: like so from Cushion Orange Juice, I did cabin Fever
Speaker 3: because I wanted to do something totally different that didn't
Speaker 3: sound you know, so laid back and chill, and people
Speaker 3: gravitated towards that they loved it. And then I did
Speaker 3: Rolling Papers, which was like more mainstream, and you know,
Speaker 3: I got shit talked on that, but the fucking records
Speaker 3: went platinum. And then I did On and IFC with
Speaker 3: the fucking I forget what color the pants were. I
Speaker 3: think they were like cheat Oh it was the cheatah
Speaker 3: jacket with the American flag pants. Yeah, And people was
Speaker 3: like that's not hip hop, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah like, but for me, I was like
Speaker 3: really al Green and you know, Marvin Gaspin, I wanted
Speaker 3: to make something that just looked like an old school
Speaker 3: album cover. So it doesn't always align with what people think.
Speaker 3: It's me or like on brand for yeah, like with
Speaker 3: their taste for whiskyly for is. But it's always me
Speaker 3: just like narrating my own story kind of you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Hell, yeah.
Speaker 2: Your evolution, you're involving on your own.
Speaker 3: I can't help it, you know, I don't get comfortable
Speaker 3: like just sitting in one place, like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like I'm always changing or always coming up
Speaker 3: with new ideas or just different ways to do things
Speaker 3: or inspiration or you know what I mean, just ways
Speaker 3: to reincorporate things and just tell a story without even
Speaker 3: like saying shit, and.
Speaker 4: If you get it, you get it.
Speaker 3: Because a lot of my fans and a lot of
Speaker 3: people that like fuck with my music or fuck with me,
Speaker 3: they gravitate towards the same things, so they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is that or that's why he did it, But
Speaker 3: just on a larger scale, a lot of people don't
Speaker 3: get that shit, so it just comes off as fucking
Speaker 3: weird sometimes. So like I just move forward and just
Speaker 3: hope that you know, one day people will understand it
Speaker 3: or grasp it. But it never holds me back or
Speaker 3: gets me stuck to where I want to redo something
Speaker 3: that I that I've done before. Like nah, never that you.
Speaker 1: Ever did something that was against the norm that you regret.
Speaker 3: It or an experiment that went wrong. No, I never
Speaker 3: had any experiens go wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: I try to calculate everything to where I'm pretty much gonna.
Speaker 3: Win, and a win for me, like it might not
Speaker 3: be a win for everybody else, but I feel like.
Speaker 2: You already had calculated what would be a.
Speaker 3: Win exactly, and I'm satisfied with it and it's a
Speaker 3: success based off of just getting to release it or
Speaker 3: you know, I might not have got everything that I
Speaker 3: wanted to get done, but I'm happy with what I
Speaker 3: got done, you know what I mean. Like I definitely
Speaker 3: just chalk it up and keep it moving, like I'm
Speaker 3: always moving forward. And I think that's just a blessing
Speaker 3: that I have as a creative to not really be
Speaker 3: focused on like money or popularity or any of that.
Speaker 3: It's just I just love to create and I love
Speaker 3: to be a part of the conversation, like you know,
Speaker 3: just add me in there.
Speaker 2: So it's like you always looking at the glass half full, Yeah,
Speaker 2: half empty.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like what could I do even if
Speaker 3: some shit don't necessarily work or doesn't do it exactly
Speaker 3: what I wanted to do, It's like, all right, that's
Speaker 3: a lesson. It's not a failure. It's like what can
Speaker 3: I do to do better? You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking at eighty people around me like you
Speaker 3: should have done this, and you should. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: what could I have done to make that ship a
Speaker 3: guarantee you know what I'm saying, and then just move
Speaker 3: it from there.
Speaker 2: You smoke a blunt, I don't think it's been a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not back home. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: That's gross.
Speaker 3: That's not home.
Speaker 1: Who ain't taking him there?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: Come back home from well we all started with blunt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was we wanted to get getting tricks all that.
Speaker 3: That's terrible.
Speaker 4: I like weed.
Speaker 3: I enjoy weed. There's weed in its just wrapped in
Speaker 3: there somewhere. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's a high grade cigarette.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about growing up in the hood, Like
Speaker 3: they try to like make it seem weird to like
Speaker 3: hit bongs or joints and things like that. If you don't,
Speaker 3: oh man, you we do. It's like, dog, I actually
Speaker 3: like care about weed, Like you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: when you start to learn about weed, you don't want
Speaker 3: to smoke a blunt, bro, because that ship ruins the
Speaker 3: fucking actual pot.
Speaker 4: Bro to each his own, it ruins.
Speaker 3: It's you're not even fully in experiencing it.
Speaker 1: I don't smoke cigarettes no more so.
Speaker 3: This is that's a cigarette tobacco. See, I'm a downer,
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, like, with the hell
Speaker 3: facts and all that, I'm through with them. And it
Speaker 3: was going to be mad.
Speaker 1: When I saw that footage online, I said, is.
Speaker 3: He's a tobacco He's a purist when it comes to
Speaker 3: it's just not good for you, man, it ruins the weed.
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying anything that's not right. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying it.
Speaker 1: I actually agree with you. Yeah, it's all, but it
Speaker 1: tastes good as a motherfucker right now. You're addicted to
Speaker 1: it exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hooked.
Speaker 1: He definitely won't want to smoke a trick.
Speaker 3: Then that's a.
Speaker 1: Totally different thing.
Speaker 3: I'm not smoking a blunt with Trick Daddy, but I
Speaker 3: chilled Trick Daddy all.
Speaker 2: Day smoking smoking Tricky is the best I ain't smoking
Speaker 2: with making a special blunt with.
Speaker 1: Don't smart about.
Speaker 4: That, blind, don't smoke.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that he's doing that, but I heard
Speaker 3: I know the Miami, but this is a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you call it the Miami blunt,
Speaker 1: but you could definitely call it the trick and dir
Speaker 1: no in Miami that that was the thing, that was
Speaker 1: a thing, was the thing.
Speaker 2: I like Miami ill grew that. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll be outside. I'm sorry, I don't be outside.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you. Jim Jones, a close, close
Speaker 1: friend of mine, said recently that rappers being a rapper
Speaker 1: is a dangerous job, and I agree with him in
Speaker 1: his totality. But there different versions of rappers, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I imagine J Cole could walk anywhere.
Speaker 4: Why you say that, like Coleon with.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying like col I can imagine.
Speaker 3: I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: I'm just I canna imagine J Cole could go do
Speaker 1: his laundry, laundry and like nobody might not try to
Speaker 1: get J Cole.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, actually that probably wouldn't be true.
Speaker 2: It probably be that's true.
Speaker 1: Listen, they probably won't even think it's Jay Cole.
Speaker 2: Well that part, Yeah, I see him child in the
Speaker 2: New City getting a frank.
Speaker 1: No one bothered him, right in that sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but in fame, there's always dangers in all in
Speaker 2: any kind of fame.
Speaker 1: Preaching to the choiet, right, I agree with you. Do
Speaker 1: you think being a rapper is a dangerous job, especially
Speaker 1: living in LA Right? Because they saying that l a
Speaker 1: is one of the most dangerous places in the world
Speaker 1: for a rapper. So I guess that's a two part question.
Speaker 3: Well I got a third part to that, J Cole
Speaker 3: being able to go to the laundry maat is a
Speaker 3: fucking blessing. It ain't as it ain't as bad as
Speaker 3: you think. It's a blessing for him to be able
Speaker 3: to walk through the park and go enjoy getting a
Speaker 3: freaking glizzy and not get bothered. Shout out, Shout out
Speaker 3: to J Cole. More more rappers need to do that.
Speaker 1: He's got to be funny, I get you back.
Speaker 3: So, like my whole thing about rappers being dangerous, it
Speaker 3: is it is very dangerous. Your target, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you're you're a target for somebody to
Speaker 3: get a name. A lot of people look at our
Speaker 3: profession and they're like, this nigga got it made. So
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, if you come through with a
Speaker 3: card or like he paid one hundred thousand or one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty for that car, you might not have
Speaker 3: paid one hundred and fifty for that car. That might
Speaker 3: have been you know what I mean, for really, you
Speaker 3: might have got a deal on that shit. You might
Speaker 3: be paying rent on that shit every month, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, or whatever your chain is, Like, your
Speaker 3: chain might be big as hell, but people just don't
Speaker 3: know qualities, the diamonds. They just see that shit shine
Speaker 3: and they don't know how much it really costs. So
Speaker 3: you just become a target for things that you have on.
Speaker 3: Somebody could get a name off of what they do
Speaker 3: to you. So I rob this person, they get a
Speaker 3: name off of that. So that's that's automatic, like when
Speaker 3: you become a rapper, but or not a rapper, but
Speaker 3: just a personality, like just somebody who's out there. So
Speaker 3: you just have more of a responsibility to calculate your moves,
Speaker 3: calculate who you're around, calculates the situations that you put
Speaker 3: yourself in, and the more you can avoid, the better
Speaker 3: off you are.
Speaker 4: Shit happens, you know what I'm saying. So you have
Speaker 4: to be prepared and.
Speaker 3: You have to be ready, and you got to be
Speaker 3: in the mind state to you know, protect yourself and
Speaker 3: to protect your brand more than anything and not be
Speaker 3: like you know, uh, risking it too much. Yeah, But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like you know, shit
Speaker 3: happens sometimes, Like you can you can never really people
Speaker 3: are human. Yeah, you can't plan, you can't plan everything.
Speaker 3: And like you said, j Cole, he might not be
Speaker 3: a threatening artist, but he might have some crazy super
Speaker 3: fair you know what I'm saying. But Joe, you being
Speaker 3: a fan as a reason to get to you too,
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, what's up? I love your music
Speaker 3: and then flip it on some some crazy ship and
Speaker 3: then you're just being nice to you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: a regular dude.
Speaker 4: That's a regular transaction. So it's very scary, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 2: And then with stand with the song standing talking about that,
Speaker 2: like anybody could have a stand right.
Speaker 1: Like even even with you, like to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I follow you, so I see you
Speaker 1: in the gym every day and then I see you
Speaker 1: leave the gym in a coup. But then I realized,
Speaker 1: oh someone's filming him, so he's not alone.
Speaker 4: No, I'm by myself real Yeah for sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah you think do you think avoiding some of
Speaker 1: the shit is like not how and jewelry on and
Speaker 1: something like that, because.
Speaker 3: It's not having jury on, but it's who you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: like you environment, it's who you know, like you have
Speaker 3: to be tapped in with the right types of people
Speaker 3: out there, and you have to be there for certain reasons.
Speaker 3: And for me, like people know who I know and
Speaker 3: they know why I'm tapped in the way that I am.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean there's there's there's a lot of
Speaker 3: different ways to go about it. But just being in
Speaker 3: LA and not being from LA got of respect. You
Speaker 3: gotta respect it. But people, people know what's real and
Speaker 3: what's fake. So if you're just paying your way, like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, as soon as that's up,
Speaker 3: your time is up. Like if you have real respect
Speaker 3: from real people for real reasons, you got to put
Speaker 3: in that work and do those things. And you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like that's where I stand and that's
Speaker 3: why I'm able to move the way that I move,
Speaker 3: and you got to take the time to do that.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people skip those steps, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They just look at the important parts
Speaker 3: or the people who are there for them when they
Speaker 3: need them, and they don't really return earn that or
Speaker 3: just be normal when it's time to be normal. So
Speaker 3: it gets really Hollywood because it is Hollywood, but it's
Speaker 3: like that everywhere.
Speaker 4: It's like that in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: It's like that out here out here, it's like that
Speaker 3: in New Orleans, like that in New York, it's like
Speaker 3: that in Chicago.
Speaker 4: You get pressed.
Speaker 3: Any and everywhere, everywhere, anywhere, man, exactly. So you just
Speaker 3: gotta you just gotta stay tapped in with real ones,
Speaker 3: and you got to put in that work, the real
Speaker 3: type of work with the real ones, and they you'll
Speaker 3: be good. Honestly.
Speaker 4: That's that's and really that's what I learned.
Speaker 2: Pay attention to your environment and respect the environment you're in.
Speaker 2: Oftentimes people come from out of town thinking because they
Speaker 2: from another place, they can come disrespecting another place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.
Speaker 2: Just got to respect every there's a hood. Everywhere there's
Speaker 2: there's hood.
Speaker 3: I mean, even if you respect, super respectful and you're soft,
Speaker 3: like niggas is going to try to pressure you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, that's understanding your surroundings.
Speaker 1: At that point.
Speaker 2: If you're soft, you understand where you're going as a
Speaker 2: soft person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being soft, right, You just
Speaker 3: got to be like yo, all right, well this nigga soft,
Speaker 3: play yourself exactly, Like, don't try to act hard because
Speaker 3: like just be sawt. You know what I'm saying, don't
Speaker 3: just be Yeah, no, you're going to get pressed, but like,
Speaker 3: don't try to be horrid.
Speaker 1: When don't put yourself in the situation exactly Like.
Speaker 3: Nah, I just do music, bro, Like you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's all I do.
Speaker 3: That's all the funk I do. I do music, Bro.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that, None wrong with it. There's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Nope. Man, it's been a pleasure, man, Thank you, it
Speaker 1: really has been, man, Because, like I said, I was
Speaker 1: happy to be a part of one of your first
Speaker 1: shows in New York. I didn't know that was your
Speaker 1: first show in New York. I thought it was one
Speaker 1: of them. But I was happy to be a part
Speaker 1: of that. I was happy to see your growth. It's
Speaker 1: certain people that I see that I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just so happy man, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And that's real.
Speaker 3: Fit.
Speaker 1: It's like, it takes nothing away from me to be
Speaker 1: happy for you. Yep. It takes nothing away from me
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers. It takes nothing away from
Speaker 1: me to show you how great you are and how
Speaker 1: great you mean to this generation, our generation, generation.
Speaker 3: Students away from me.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think it makes me more of a
Speaker 1: man for sure, to sit there and tell you how
Speaker 1: great you are, because you are sincerely great.
Speaker 3: And we love people.
Speaker 1: Love you. But before we get up out of it,
Speaker 1: what's what's next? What's next? For words?
Speaker 4: Got an album coming out, Whistlemania.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be Will you be wrestling soon?
Speaker 3: No I'm not.
Speaker 4: I will if they.
Speaker 3: I'm athletic enough and I could do flips and ship
Speaker 3: like that too.
Speaker 1: I feel like you got the meanest kick in hip
Speaker 1: hop for real. I've been saying that this whole interview.
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing you. I don't know if you noticed.
Speaker 1: I didn't laugh every time I moved. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I see you kicking my rib herd. I said, oh ship, they're.
Speaker 3: Getting better too.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: That's because that ship and yeah for real they Yeah,
Speaker 3: So Wizzlemania is dropping. It's a new album, full full length,
Speaker 3: all bangers. I'm really excited. I got really good features
Speaker 3: on there. Everything is pretty much locked in independent. Independent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you's gonna ask you that question, indid major, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you prefer?
Speaker 3: I prefer being independent, but doing deals like exclusively, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So if you're gonna do it, yeah,
Speaker 3: like you license your project, to license your project, because
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know, like music isn't really
Speaker 3: owned by the labels. Like there's a lot of private
Speaker 3: companies and a lot of investors who will invest way
Speaker 3: more in a project than a record label. I'm talking
Speaker 3: about way more like And if you can lock yourself
Speaker 3: into one of those deals, you're gonna get some cheese
Speaker 3: and you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Use school us a little bit on that because I've
Speaker 2: never heard much of that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go too deep into it.
Speaker 1: Just the surface of it generic.
Speaker 4: I just said it the way more.
Speaker 3: No, no, no no, because that album never got released like
Speaker 3: this what's up full?
Speaker 1: So bro u.
Speaker 3: Uh no, because that album was like one person owned it.
Speaker 3: This one is like they're buying staff like radio, they're
Speaker 3: pushing it, they're promoting it, and you get like millions
Speaker 3: of dollars up front.
Speaker 2: But is that is that exclusive to someone like you
Speaker 2: who already has a track?
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: It's worth If it's worth money, it's going to sell.
Speaker 3: You can lock in a deal and you can find
Speaker 3: a company that is not a major record label that
Speaker 3: will invest money.
Speaker 4: Then that's all they do is invest and you'll get right.
Speaker 3: We need to hell yeah. And it's crazy because it's
Speaker 3: they just invest like they're not and they don't know
Speaker 3: shit about music, so you run everything.
Speaker 1: Like hedge funds. See, I'm trying to dig for the
Speaker 1: I believe Bust did that. He was the first person
Speaker 1: that had an album on you.
Speaker 2: You know, all these people who get it, you're sayings around,
Speaker 2: You're saying, whis kalifa? I'm asking for the average artists
Speaker 2: that's trying to not age artists route get funding. Is
Speaker 2: that something that they can access or is it only
Speaker 2: a bus rhymes and anybody.
Speaker 3: Can access it? Because these these private companies are investing
Speaker 3: in what's making money. So if it's valuable, if you
Speaker 3: can go on tour, if you can sell merch if
Speaker 3: you can sell records, if you have streaming, if you're monetized,
Speaker 3: if you have a video that's doing certain millions of
Speaker 3: views and it's guaranteed to make a certain amount of money,
Speaker 3: They're going to invest a certain amount of money to
Speaker 3: grow the project. Whatever this project is, it could be
Speaker 3: for an amount of time where it could be for
Speaker 3: this single project. Me or bus Rhymes will probably just
Speaker 3: do like a one off because we've already been through
Speaker 3: so many major label deals or things like that. But
Speaker 3: somebody else can be in their basement. Somebody could be like, yo,
Speaker 3: I see the potential in your growing here's two hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and twenty million dollars side in the basement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we need see You don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about it, but I need to talk about.
Speaker 1: You are trying to bro.
Speaker 3: No, I'm ready to go for a cuban cuban goodbye.
Speaker 2: And there's no you can't point anybody in the direction
Speaker 2: right now because right now.
Speaker 1: I'll holler at you.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'll see y'all next direction.
Speaker 1: When I'm floating.
Speaker 3: In this motherfucker Everything on me is fucking gold ship.
Speaker 4: Remember that private investment? Yeah, yeah, I gotta wait.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll wait for continue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we give it a little game, okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: So we got the businesses, we got the investments, is,
Speaker 1: we got the career, we got the actor. What is
Speaker 1: it left for you to do?
Speaker 4: I'm having a great time raising my kid, bro.
Speaker 1: That's fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. Amazing.
Speaker 4: That's the best part of it all. That's what brings
Speaker 4: it all together.
Speaker 3: That's what really is, you know, my favorite thing.
Speaker 4: He's ten now, so I'm just looking forward to the
Speaker 4: next you know, and.
Speaker 3: It went by like that.
Speaker 4: Man, it went by so fast.
Speaker 3: And to think that in another ten years he's going
Speaker 3: to be twenty years old. So it's like, I gotta
Speaker 3: I'm in there. Like you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: already been in there. But it's like, yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: really really important, like you know, like twelve and fourteen,
Speaker 3: all of that just you know, yeah, yeah, that's my
Speaker 3: little man.
Speaker 4: So that's my that's my job, that's my that's my.
Speaker 3: Main focus is you know, family, just structure, just keeping
Speaker 3: him right. His little personality is so so wild, so
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, he needs, he needs that that
Speaker 3: gathering that I got for him. But yeah, it's funny, man.
Speaker 3: I love being a dad. I love showing up for him.
Speaker 3: I want to have more kids. Yeah yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I think right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: Like the career stuff, yeah yeah, the career stuff is
Speaker 3: not like Nick Cannon. It's like no, no, no, not like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you know, if that's the that's whatever
Speaker 3: the vibe is. But it's like the career thing is.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been doing that for a long ass time.
Speaker 3: It's like structure and family and making memories and fucking
Speaker 3: getting the lake house and going out on the boat
Speaker 3: and riding jet skis, Like that's the type of ship
Speaker 3: that I look forward to, Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I'm setting all that stuff up.
Speaker 1: What God damn it? Man, hell you man, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much man for we wanted to give you your flowers.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a real one. This is for legends,
Speaker 1: this platform, this is for people who been here and
Speaker 1: we think it's going to continue to be here, and
Speaker 1: you are definitely one of them. Since we started this show,
Speaker 1: I've been reaching out to you because you have reaching
Speaker 1: out to you because, uh, I probably never said this, see,
Speaker 1: but you're one of my favorites. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Because if I'm having a bad time, I could go
Speaker 1: to a whiz playlist and something's gonna come on. It's
Speaker 1: gonna make me either or it's gonna make me happy.
Speaker 1: And that's what's up. You know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: why I fucked with in the beginning, because that's really
Speaker 1: what street people or people from the streets is.
Speaker 3: We're really happy people on the low.
Speaker 1: We just was mad because of our condition, our situation,
Speaker 1: and I've had to give you a flowers. I was
Speaker 1: wanting to give you a flowers and thank you man.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna take two pictures and you do some
Speaker 1: drops and then that's it.
Speaker 2: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production in association
Speaker 2: with Interval Presents. Hosts and executive producers n O r
Speaker 2: E and dj e f N from Interval Presents executive
Speaker 2: producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg.
Speaker 3: Listen to Drink.
Speaker 2: Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another
Speaker 2: episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours Truly, dj e
Speaker 2: f N and n O r E. Please make sure
Speaker 2: to follow us on all our socials That's at drink
Speaker 2: Champs across all platforms, at the Real Noriagon ig at
Speaker 2: Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on ig at,
Speaker 2: dj e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay
Speaker 2: up to date with the latest releases, news and merch
Speaker 2: by going to drink Champs dot com,