1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queens up girl Fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: But you'll tough, girl. You could sit with us. Girl Drama, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drawn, Queen's Drama, Queen's 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Season two. Welcome back everyone. We're so happy you're joining 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: us for season two Episode one. How cute is this episode? 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: That was delicious, which is why I meet in a 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: muffin right now. That episode and I was like, oh, 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: you see stuff, and like just heartwarming stuff and the comedy. 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: We had a lot of good things in this season premiere. 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: This was called The Desperate Kingdom of Love. Air date 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: September twenty one, two thousand and four. Um, I have 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: my sex radio voice on because I'm a little I 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: think we're all a little hungover from guys, we did it. 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that we're referencing this joy because I think 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: it shows the power of our show that we were 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: all very hungover. And then throughout the course of watching 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: the episode, I feel like I perked up. I feel 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: much better. Yeah, for sure, Um, Hillary, will you read 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: the synopsis? Okay baby. After Lucas and Keith learned that 23 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Dan had a heart attack, they decide it is best 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: for them to return to Tree Hill. When deb learns 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: about Haley and Nathan's marriage, she flips the out. Meanwhile, 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: angry that Lucas left Tree Hill without saying goodbye, Peyton 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: and Brooke try to mend their friendship. This was an 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: epic episode for Brooking, Peyton, I loved it well for 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: you too. But I remember filming this episode. Do you 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: guys remember this one? Yes? Yeah, it was such It 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: was such like I don't know, sweet victory, that we 32 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: got to come back because it was just not a 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: given thing. And so I think I think the fact 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: that we got to come back and then just like 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: jump into crazy Town it was fun. I was like, oh, 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: we get to do a whole other year this, you 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: know what's crazy? Though? I remember I mean so well, 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: like we're like we were there yesterday Hill. I remember 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: us doing our our boat day beach and all of 40 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: that boat day, um, and I think because it made 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: such an impact on all of us. Obviously, I remember 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: the Haley and Nathan wedding. I couldn't wait to get 43 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: to that scene. Joy. I was like, I just can't 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see your hair. I can't wait 45 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to see your hair with the flower in it. I 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: still remember it from when it aired. She looks like 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: a painting, just like a sweet cherub. But the craziest 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: part is I remember so well those things. And when 49 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: the episode opened with Deb's nightmare about Dan's funeral, I 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: was like, what is this we didn't do I mean, 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I see myself, but I was not in this scene. 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: When did we do this? I have no recollection. I 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: loved that mislead. It was a released I thought it 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: was a really smart way to start the episode because 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: then everybody's like, oh my god, damn well, I just remember, 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, my boyfriend and my brother are both in production, 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and so I remembered it because I remember how pissed 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: everyone was that we had to do this huge scene. 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Was so many extras and with like this whole set 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: and like probably like flowers and all that. It's like 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: a crazy For thirty seconds, it was, Yeah, there's a 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: big deal, close ups of everybody. I think it was 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: absolutely worth it because it's set a tone for the 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: whole rest of the season. It also kind of set 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a tone for our series where Mr Rex became a 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: very big part of our show, and you know, the 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: crazy town in jumping the shark and like doing crazy 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: stuff definitely became a part of our show in the 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: later seasons. So this was a good like what's what's happened? 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Let's start with Brooke and Peyton though, because I was 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: so I was so enamored of the two of you, 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the way that we really got to see your friendship 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: like it was when you were little kids, and the 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: fact that you really have grown up together and to 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: get all the boy stuff out of the way and 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: all the drama out of the way and just be 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: friends again. And yeah, you had a little tiff over 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: the letter and whatever, but there was a a I 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: loved that you guys on a teen soap opera didn't 80 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: wear bathing suits on the boat, which I want to hear. 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I want to hear about how that happen. You did, 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and then well they did ended up doing this skinny 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: dipping thing, which is that was kind of cute thought 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: and those gorgeous shots of the two of you, this 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: sort of this epic friendship. I loved these iconic shots 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: of down the docks, seeing you guys walk towards us, 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: walk toward camera, hugging each other, and just being the 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: pals that you guys were the friends that everybody wanted 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: to have a friend like that in high school, and 90 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: we really got to see that shine in this episode. Well, 91 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: I thanks Joy. I mean, I remember filming this. I 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: remember Sophia and I this is you know, we always 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: were kind of on the same page, but I feel 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: like this was a time where we got to unite 95 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: because in the original script we were definitely invading suits 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: and also it was just gratuitous and dumb and and 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I think that we still got the point across. But 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I remember as being like, we'll lift up our tank tups, 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: but that's all you get, so if you can shoot 100 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: it from behind, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a 101 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: fun day out on the boat. And I wonder if 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: that was one of the appeals of the certain interrupt 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: I just I wonder if that was one of the 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: peals of our show with the main characters, that there's 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: the innocence was maintained in a time when a lot 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: of the other shows were doing a lot of salt, 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot more selecious stuff with younger kids. And I 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: think as a teenager, if I had been a teenager 109 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: watching that, there would have been a safety that I 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: felt in knowing that I could watch two of my 111 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: favorite friends be together and not feel like there was 112 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, an example being an ironic element. Yeah, 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: you didn't have to witness people you looked up to 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: or wanted to be like being exploited and then think 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that it was okay if someone exploited you. Yeah, and 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: not that there's anything wrong obviously, Like people wear bathing 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: suits on TV and on boats, and I mean there's 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. It was just this in this 119 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: particular scenario, I feel like, because we wanted to just 120 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: feel safe within the friendship, it would have felt really 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: out of place for for you guys to have been 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: objectified during that particular moment. Well, and our bodies. Our 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: bodies were compared all the time. We talked about this 124 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: while we were watching the episode. I don't have boobs, guys, 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Sophie's got great boobs, and they're you know, like thinking, man, Yeah, 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: we're all like mix and match. Each one of us 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: has like good parts, um, but when you're twenty one 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and you're laying next to someone else on camera in 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: a bathing suit, there's there's no way that you don't 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: compare her yourself to them. And I know that I 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to compare myself to you too. You know, 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: there were parts of me that I was very insecure about, 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: and so I like that we just kind of eliminated 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: that from the female dynamic and instead I had to 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: put on nudy suits to go swimming. We made that 136 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: so on sexy, literally did I. We were in like, 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, bandos and high waisted like nude granny panties 138 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: in the water, Like nothing is less cute because I 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: can't swim. And we established that in the scene where 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: I went in the pool with Nathan and they knew 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't swim, so they're like, let's put her in 142 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: the water again, and so we were in like knee 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: high water. You guys, it was not anything like we 144 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: weren't even really swimming. We had to crouch down. You 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: couldn't see the like dumb nude sports brawl thing. Oh yeah, 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I love that, and yeah it was. It was not 147 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a sexy day. Sorry, I hate to I loved and 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. Joy. There was just such 149 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: a sweetness to it, and it was fun for us 150 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: to play and I think, you know, perhaps part of 151 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: it feeling so organic and innocent, even in even in 152 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the the reference to us, you know, choosing to just 153 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: go out on a boat in our skirts and our 154 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: tank tops, there was something really um wholesome. It was 155 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: like getting back to a core of something. And after 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: we had gone through our first season of being compared 157 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: and having grown men talked to us about the way 158 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: we looked and and say things to each of us, 159 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: each of the three of us about why we were 160 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: You know that you're you're the one that nobody likes 161 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of nonsense. What I loved about it was that 162 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that we got to you and I as performers but 163 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: also represent on screen like two girls just being girls 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: and enjoy You said it. You see the friendship they 165 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: had when they were little, and it it felt like 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: such a homecoming for the characters to who they used 167 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: to be. But I kind of felt that way even 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: for you and me Hill, like I hadn't seen you 169 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: all summer. We were all very like, what does it 170 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: mean about being on our show, and and that's pointed 171 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: had blown up and we were the four people that 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: knew what it was like to live in that bubble. 173 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I was excited to get back to 174 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: you and just kind of be like, what are we doing? 175 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: You know we do I don't know? Yeah, And it 176 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: it felt like such a nice even returned to the 177 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: beginning of our friendship before our show was ever on 178 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: screen for other people. And I loved even when Brooke 179 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: and Peyton had the blow up about the letter, it 180 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: wasn't a cat fight. It was two people airing their 181 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: fears and vulnerabilities and being honest that they were afraid 182 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: of what it would do to them, what someone else 183 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: would do to their friendship. Again point they resolved it 184 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: in such a great way. I was so glad that 185 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: that it was an expression. And then it was over 186 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: and they were like, I kind of love that they 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: burned the letter. Girl, this is not bad because it's pretext. 188 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: It's really like an email was like sort of a thing, 189 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: but like you didn't really email people. A boy had 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: to write a physical letter on a piece of paper, 191 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: and once it was gone, it's gone forever. Like kids 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: take a note you just need to write it down 193 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: on paper and then um, yeah, it's a whole different game. 194 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: There's like mysticism to it when you write it down 195 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: on paper. I miss passing notes so much. Do you 196 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: have boxes of notes from growing up? A shoe boxes? I? Actually, yeah, 197 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: I have one that used to be a stationary box, 198 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I think, um, and it was full full of letters 199 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: that I particularly wrote back and forth with one person, 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: and like I have him from I would like wallpaper 201 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: from hotel room that the wallpaper was peeling, so I 202 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: just feel a little more enjoy No, it was like seven, 203 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. I'm traveling for work or whatever. I mean, 204 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. She's in the Rundown motel with the peeling, 205 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And for some reason, my sixteen year 206 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: old brain was like, it's okay, if I tear this more, 207 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: gonna be good. But you know, like not, you just 208 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: find whatever you could find, napkins, your test here, whatever, 209 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: and receipts, and you just pass a note. That's so fun. 210 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: What do we think the letter said? Good idea? I mean, 211 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: what could that letter have said? He has to have 212 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: been apologizing very girthy. That was why did they why 213 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: did whoever did did why did whoever was managing our 214 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: props put so many pieces of paper and that envelope. 215 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a direction thing. Maybe they wanted it 216 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: to look like it was. There was a lot to say, 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: because Lucas is certainly prolific, if nothing else, A wordy man. Yeah, 218 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna he's gonna wax poetic for sure. Yeah, 219 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: our resident author is going to have something to say. Yeah, 220 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: I bet he apologized, and I bet he was like 221 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: trying to be because it had to have been something 222 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: that could be said to both of you. Well, because 223 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: up until this point we'd given him for trying to 224 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: game the both of us by like going to Brooke 225 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: and apologizing, then going to pay and apologizing. So it 226 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: actually is kind of a great move to be like, oh, 227 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm acknowledging that I have been a wedge in between 228 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: you two. Let me address you as a unit, so 229 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: there's no hearsay. Let me just like acknowledge that you 230 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: two are a unit, um and and so yeah, I 231 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: appreciate that this boy is figuring out. Oh I tread 232 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: on something that was very precious and I shouldn't respect it. Also, 233 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Chad's haircut is spect so handsome. I love the shaved head. Yeah, 234 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: major our production always felt like they had to reference 235 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: are like hair changes, Like kids don't do that all 236 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: the time. We have to script in like a snarky 237 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: line about it. And I'm like, yeah, Craig calls him 238 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: felicity because he cut his hair off, but he looks 239 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: so good. It's like it was such a good move. 240 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: I wonder why he didn't keep that. I don't know. 241 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I was a fan. Yeah, I thought it was great 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: and it gave it gives him such a differentiation from James. 243 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: But maybe that's part of it too, because we did 244 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: talk about how in season one they basically have the 245 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: same haircut. Yeah, like they they needed them to look 246 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: more similar. So maybe that's part of the reason too 247 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: that it was it wasn't until season two that he 248 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: could look different. Big fan, huge fan. And I think 249 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: that the you know, the work he was doing talking 250 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: about I need to go back from my brother, like 251 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: my brother's on the go home list. I loved that. 252 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: I loved that too. I thought that was clever writing 253 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: it on a box on a moving box. That's a 254 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: fun little uh uh staging What did he say, Dan's 255 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: an ass, You're an ass? Your mom obliterated my heart. 256 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I like that they could just be frank with each 257 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: other about it. Sweet Keith. Hey, Keith, by the way, 258 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: showing up with that line of like finally laying down 259 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: and laying out exactly what we have been saying this 260 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: whole time, that here's this guy who's every life that 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: he's in, he just like it just falls apart. You know, 262 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: he's poison for everybody, and now the one time he's 263 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: in pain and he's hurting, now everybody's supposed to drop 264 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: everything to turn their life around and go help him. No. 265 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I loved that. I'm so happy to hear somebody finally 266 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, but nobody followed through. I know the 267 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: lame answer, Well, he's your brother, go away. Sorry. UM, 268 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: you can't pick your family, what's your point? Yeah, exactly, 269 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: but you can pick who you're in a toxic really 270 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: aationship with UM. Let's talk about the toxic and deb 271 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: finding down on the floor, dial it yourself. Yeah. But 272 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: then okay, So I loved the dial it yourself because 273 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, like she's earned this moment. But 274 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: then it's followed up by the you're the assest ass 275 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: on the planet. Why did they write lines like that 276 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: for us? Well, it would be one thing if we 277 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: said it because we were children, um, but to have 278 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: like a grown as woman who we've established as like 279 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: a businesswoman and savvy and like incredibly intuitive and like 280 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: together all of a sudden starts talking like a kid. 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: It was really trite in the middle of that scenario. 282 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: Or he's having a heart attack. I think they were 283 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: probably trying to make it like I'm so cool, You're 284 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: having a heart attack and I can just sit here 285 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: and be flippant, but it was it just didn't sit right. 286 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: It all so feels like those those terms were always 287 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: the placeholders for the swear words we weren't allowed to say. 288 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, if it was real life, deb would have 289 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: been like you are such a selfish motherfucker. She wasn't 290 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: allowed to say that. So then you this woman, this 291 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: like chic smart woman going you are the assiest ass 292 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: and no, no, middle of a well you know what, 293 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: she pulled it off. I mean she she committed to 294 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing I love about Barb. She commits to 295 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: every piece of it. And you can tell even when 296 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I noticed that in the chapel when she was saying 297 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to lose you. Um, those 298 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: are the words on the page most people would say, Gunna, 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to lose you. I thought 300 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: I was going to lose you. And even just committing 301 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: to the phrasing that was on the page is a 302 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: testament to her ability um to take whatever is given 303 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: to her and turn it into something that sounds natural 304 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: and that's really good. So I loved the way that 305 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: she handled that in the end um and then Dan 306 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: going to the hospital and everybody thinking that he's going 307 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: to die, and then him waking up to Keith dead. 308 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: You guys, we fell out. We fell out. It was 309 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: such a and we knew we all he's gonna wake up. 310 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna wake This is gonna be the first 311 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: thing he sees. And then it happened and we were like, Wow, Joy, 312 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: wasn't you? You're like, I love TV so much. I 313 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: love TV, man, it's so good because you know what's 314 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you know what they have to do to make you cringe, 315 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: and then they do it and it's so satisfying. I 316 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Nathan and Hilly of it all. 317 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Because we left season one with a major cliffhanger of 318 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: just like, wait, these kids got married, and it was 319 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: like very like kids getting married. But your performance in 320 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: this sells it in such a strong earnest what you're 321 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: so earnest you and I believe Haley, and I trust Haley, 322 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: and I find myself being like good kids get married. Yes, fine, 323 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, like you made it so easy to believe 324 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: something that is, you know, way out of bounds, way 325 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: way out of bounds, but it but it is. It's 326 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: so beautiful in your earnestness. And one of the things 327 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I will say that I love and I thought this 328 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: was great writing is that Nathan is so sure and 329 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: and the the all of the this is a little crazy. 330 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Is this crazy comes from Haley. And so often we 331 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: see young women being the ones who are swept up 332 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: by the romance and the fairy tale and and and 333 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: it did something so dynamic to allow the two of 334 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: you to each represent the shure nous of the love 335 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: but also the very natural fear and anxiety, and to 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: play off of each other and to find it and 337 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: and to see Haley find it when she tells her parents, 338 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not impulsive, I don't make rash decisions. 339 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: This is what I want. And then to see your 340 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: parents have the conversation, even about their young love story. 341 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: It did. It grounded this thing that should be totally 342 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: insane and made it feel so real that that even 343 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: me who's like, oh I would can't imagine if I 344 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: had been that insane in high school. Thank God I wasn't. 345 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: Should I believe it for them? What do I remember? 346 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: What do you remember from shooting this episode? Because this 347 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: is a huge for you. It wasn't actually remember a 348 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: lot about this episode, Um I have. I had a 349 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: lot of sort of visceral muscle memories of the walking 350 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: into Haley's house, which we really see her kitchen and 351 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: everything for the first time. Also, what a strange mislead 352 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: the walking into Haley's house and seeing um African American 353 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: woman sitting at the table, and then but it was 354 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: like as though that's Haley's mom, and then it's not, 355 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: it's just a family friend, but like it's just such 356 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: a random Why Yah, tree Hill has a diversity problem. 357 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if we've noticed tree Hill is like 358 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: the whitest town on the planets. Certainly the whitest town 359 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: in the South, and they were like, oh, we need 360 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: to fix this in strange ways. Um it was just 361 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: so you know, behind the scenes, I think that was 362 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: a constant conversation that we were always having, just like 363 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: and so you we're gonna over the course of the 364 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: show see that introduced in like very strange ways. But 365 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: this was certainly up there with the oddness. So weird 366 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: but anyway, Um, so we got through that and then 367 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I remember, I do remember shooting that scene with Bess 368 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: and Hue because I was super excited. I was a 369 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: big fan of best from my so called life and 370 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: obviously Huey Lewis is such a legend, um, and I 371 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: was very excited to work with both of them, and 372 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: they were such pros and they made it so comfortable 373 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: and um, just we had a lot of fun and 374 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: I felt really seen as an actor in the moment 375 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: when I would know because it was so important that 376 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Haley her that her earnestness and her ability to make 377 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: these decisions for herself at a very young age came 378 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: through and was received by her parents, and the fact 379 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: that these guys were such pros and and so able 380 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: to kind of catch what was needed with him the 381 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: scene within within the character in order to to um 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: make the storyline cohesive. I hope I'm making sense, and 383 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: I was kind of long winded, but yeah, I just 384 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: feel like they knew exactly what to do, so I 385 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: wasn't struggling to really prove, like I can do this. 386 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm please trust me. You know, they were hippies, 387 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, they knew how to just play this sort 388 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: of hippie thing, so that was great. Um. And what 389 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: else do I remember? The wedding? Oh my god, you 390 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: look so pretty, pretty pretty, and dressing the hair, and 391 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: we got are always in forever, We got are always 392 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: and forever. It finally happened. But I also remember sitting 393 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: in front of those c ds and crying in that 394 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: white that line, I'm not a wife, I'm not even 395 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: a s funny. Such a good line, such a good line. Um. 396 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: I remembered being there, and that was my first My 397 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: first time crying on the show. Wasn't really really, I 398 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: don't know, oh no, no, no, sitting in the cafe was. 399 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: But I hadn't done any other crying since then, and 400 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: I was new to crying. I used to have a 401 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: really hard time crying on things. So I was glad 402 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: that it's join you cry the best, like you could 403 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: cry time I do now, but I I used for years. 404 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever go watch any of my 405 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: work on Guiding Light, I was the worst. I was like, 406 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm just crunched up my face but nothing would come out. Terrible. 407 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: I was really bad because I had no I wasn't 408 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: in touch with my emotions at all. I needed therapy 409 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: to cut to our commercial. Um. Yeah, so that was 410 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: fun crying over the c ds and I loved that 411 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: scene too. That is really how high schoolers think, isn't it? 412 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: You know or you know we we just one little 413 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: thing will send us spinning. Yeah. Well. Also, the difference 414 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: in the way you look at relationships as a teenager 415 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: and as an adult is very different. It's like I 416 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: remember being a teenager and thinking that love or attraction 417 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: was having mutual interests, like do we like the same band, 418 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: what's my favorite color? Do you like my friends because 419 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: I like my friends? What's your favorite movie? So if 420 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: you had trivia in common, it felt like like some 421 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: cosmic thing where it's like, oh, fantastic, I found my 422 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: mirror and I can see myself for flected in this person, 423 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: and we like all the same stuff. Well this Jack 424 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: asked behind me. When I'm at him, Jeff just walked 425 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: through the room. He was like, I don't care about 426 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: your favorite color, I don't care about your favorite band. 427 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Where do you want to do when you grow up? 428 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: You know? He was like, And so the relationship was 429 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: based on where are you going as opposed to what 430 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: do you like? And I think that's a much healthier 431 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: And Nathan wants to go where Haley is going, you know, 432 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: when he says you're my family now. He was so sure. 433 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: He was so sure, and James played it so beautifully. 434 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: He I mean, the way he looks at you in 435 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: those scenes, it's so earnest. And again, I'm just so 436 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: impressed with him, you know, as as the baby brother 437 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: of our bunch, like James being eighteen at I guess, 438 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: I guess he would have just turned nineteen because this 439 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: was the beginning of season two out because we always 440 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: started in the beginning of Joe and James's birthdays, not 441 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: till the end, so he's still eighteen when you guys 442 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: shot this. And the fact that he brought that kind 443 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: of a genuine earnestness. Two this boy, you know, he 444 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: he he showed up with vulnerability and a kind of 445 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: steadfast energy that you usually don't see in young boys. 446 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: You you see that in healthy older men who have 447 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: also been to ding ding ring the bell therapy. We 448 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: love therapy on this show, and it's it's beautiful. Do 449 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: you think that came from him having such bad relationships 450 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: modeled for him? That there was something like usually when 451 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: people grow up having bad relationships modeled for them, I 452 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: would say, usually they tend to model the same thing 453 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: that they saw, and it's just a repeated cycle unless 454 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: somebody intentionally changes that. But it seems like he's been 455 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: doing a lot of internal work. Nathan seems to have 456 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: become much more introspective over the last season. Um, and 457 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it seems like maybe he's ready 458 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: for this in a way that he's so sure because 459 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: he knows, he's seen so much of what he doesn't want, 460 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: and who knows what I don't know. I'm the best 461 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: example because this is an entire series about kids breaking 462 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: generational curses. You know, Yeah, every single character in our 463 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: show is like I don't want that, you know, I'm 464 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: not going to be you know, Hayley's parents are like 465 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: kind of transient. So what does she do? She like 466 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: doubles down and it's like, I'm Queen of Tree Hill, 467 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm going to have these strong us. 468 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: Brooke has absent parents and decides to become, you know, 469 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: a super intense parent and commit to the town and 470 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: stay put and focus on community as opposed to like 471 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: fame and fortune in the city every single care And 472 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: obviously the boys breaking the Dan curse. It's yeah to 473 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: what the basis of the show is. So to see 474 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: our male characters doing it is exciting. Mm hmm. Yeah. Thanks. 475 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: This person George just walked in. She's like generational curse. 476 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: Did someone say my name over here? You're so quick, Hilary. 477 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: I I what I appreciate most about the Haley Nathan 478 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: storyline is that your parents were introduced and we got 479 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: full Haley context that we didn't receive at any point 480 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 1: in season one. We'd heard like widows about what your 481 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: family was, and without any exposition, like no one says that, 482 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: No one says like Haley, your twenty seven sisters, you 483 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: know your mom yelling Haley's pregnant out the window. We 484 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: know that you've got older sisters and they've been down 485 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: this road before. You know, like they just flesh out 486 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: the family in a seamless way with and I hate expositions. 487 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: So the way that was so master it was really smart. 488 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: So we have a I mean, I don't want to 489 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: go to listener questions too quick unless we can sort 490 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: of incorporate it in if it doesn't bother you guys, 491 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: because we have a listener question that's particularly it's about 492 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: this topic, which is do you think Haley and Nathan's 493 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: young marriage had a positive or negative effect on younger viewers? 494 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: And that question was from Dominique. Hi. Dominique, Um, that's 495 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: a it's a really good question. I actually did wonder 496 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: about that when we were filming it. I was like, 497 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: is this our teenager is now going to want to 498 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: go out and get married because they do you guys. Obviously, 499 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm still very connected to everyone I went to high 500 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: school with to my hometown and so you know, I've 501 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: really turned my nose up at like being with the 502 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: person I was with in high school because I was like, 503 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here, I'm going to New York 504 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: but what I can say over twenty years later is 505 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: that the relationships of my friends who are still with 506 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: the people they were with in high school are some 507 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of the healthiest marriages I have examples of, really, because 508 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: we've known each other our whole lives. Their weddings were 509 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: like class reunions, um. And there's a shorthand there where 510 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: now that we're starting to go through really traumatic life 511 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: things like you know, child loss and our parents getting 512 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: sick and dying and really like big issues to be 513 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: with a person who's known you your whole life. It's 514 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: not for everyone. It certainly for me, but it is 515 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: for some people, and it can really be beautiful. And 516 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: being able to recognize that now all these years later, 517 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: it's fun to watch Nathan and Haley because I have 518 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: examples of Nathan and Haley's in my real life, and 519 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for them still. I love that. I love 520 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: that too, and I think that's a really great point. 521 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not for everyone, but I guess 522 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of representative of the larger reality in general, right, 523 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: Like Jeff was like thirty seven when we were in 524 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: high school guys, but you know, it was for these 525 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: two characters. Um certainly wasn't, you know, for Broker, for Peyton, 526 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: we as as characters, we were in really unhealthy relationships 527 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: in in the representation of our humans in high school. 528 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: And so I guess that's really it. You know, I 529 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: can't fathom being married to, you know, a person I 530 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: dated in high school, but I can't say, you know, 531 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: my sweet baby cousin Shelby, who is the light of 532 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: my life, who you both know, she was like all 533 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: in on our show and when she fell in love 534 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: with her high school sweetheart, Nick was like, we're going 535 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: to be Nathan and Haley and and me being you know, 536 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: her older family member who gives her advice, was like, 537 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, we've modeled, we've done Oh my gosh. 538 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: And they're married and they're the greatest young married couple 539 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: on earth and they're, you know, now in their late 540 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: twenties and they're perfect. And I'm like, you guys did it, 541 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: and I love it for them, And so I think 542 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: you're right. It's like it's a case by case basis, 543 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: and if it's not supposed to work, it surely will not. 544 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: But when it does, it's beautiful. Anything in life we 545 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: make the choices that we make based on who we 546 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: are and what we're capable of knowing at the time. 547 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: So if somebody feels like they're really ready to get 548 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: married in high school and they're well, not in high school, 549 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: but like I guess they're almost out of high school. God, 550 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. You're right, it's not for everyone, but 551 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: if some somebody has I know. Wait, okay, so what 552 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: else happened in this episode? What do we need to 553 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: talk about? Um? We need to talk about Dev flipping 554 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: out on Oh, dev needing to place her deep guilt 555 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: anywhere but on herself and taking it out on Nathan 556 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: and Haley. When she said you shut your selfish little mouth. 557 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my god, between as on the 558 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: planet and you shut yourself as a little bit Like 559 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: Dev is a totally different person in season tips. She 560 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: is all over the place in this episode Wolf. But 561 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: then it got it. It broke my heart as soon 562 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: as she breaks Haley and Nathan and then walks out 563 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and just loses it because you realize, you know, she 564 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it. She's just lashing out in pain, which 565 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: is no less damaging, especially to children. My god, but oh, 566 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: what was it like to shoot that scene with Barbara 567 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: when you put your hand on your ring, I was like, 568 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my godah, I godah, I got it. 569 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Gave me so much anxiety. It was so good. I 570 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: forgot that was coming. I totally forgot that was coming. 571 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: And as soon as she started feeling my ring, I 572 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: was like, Oh my god, Oh she's gonna She's gonna 573 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: remus right now. Um, she's just such a pro. I 574 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: don't That's one of the only scenes I don't remember 575 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: being in. Uh. I don't have the muscle memory of 576 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: that in this episode that it was one of the 577 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: only scenes in the episode that I didn't remember. So 578 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: you were as shocked as we were, totally shocked. Totally shocked. Also, 579 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: by the way, just a side note, because I heard 580 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the last episode that you guys did 581 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: after I left, and you were saying, um that Hillary, 582 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: you were saying, did anybody by that that Brooke was 583 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: teamed up with Peyton to Nikki into leaving town. I 584 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: bought that a percent. I really did, because you know, again, 585 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: I hadn't really seen the show, so I thought, Okay, 586 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: this this goes. I could see this storyline with Brook 587 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: carrying out longer that she still has a lot of 588 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: anger to work out, and now she's being evil with 589 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: Nicky Moore, and I bought it. So when when Nicki 590 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 1: left and you know, Peyton comes in, I knew by 591 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: the time Peyton showed up, I was like, wait back in. 592 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: But there were some good misleads. There was some good misleads. 593 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: And this thing with the ring was a good um 594 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: surprise moment too for me. I did not see that 595 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: coming well. And then when Karen finds deb in the 596 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: hallway and then they continue their conversation at the cafe, 597 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'd forgotten about the Keith in front of 598 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: the fireplace of it all. And so when there when 599 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Karen's like, Keith really needs to come back. He's so 600 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: good in a crisis and just has to take it. 601 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: She's literally having the worst day of her life. He's 602 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: good in as so good in a crisis. One of 603 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: the things I really loved speaking of Karen in the 604 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: cafe was her scene with you Joy. I don't know 605 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: if you remember that one, but when Aaron sits down 606 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: with Haley and oh yeah, it's just so beautiful when 607 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: she's saying, you know, I was I was in love 608 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: in high school once and it faded, and my wish 609 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: is that it doesn't fade for you. It was this gorgeous, 610 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: like tender moment of advice and it was really honest 611 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: but tempered with so much generosity. You know, I loved 612 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: that scene. Do you remember? I don't remember a lot 613 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: of it, but what I do remember is that it 614 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: was I think it was the first scene I had 615 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: with Moira where it was vulnerable and emotional. I don't 616 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: know that she and I had had. She had a 617 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: lot of those with Lucas and a lot of I've 618 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: been around for a lot of banter and stuff, but 619 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: not a one on one I'm going to give you 620 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: my motherly advice right now kind of a scene. Um. 621 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: I actually would have loved have seen something between Bess 622 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: and Moira. I wish we had gotten to see some 623 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Karen and and Lydia um, because I have to assume 624 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: they were friends, right, Like if you grow up with Lucas, yeah, totally. 625 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: You know what it is. You're the last of all 626 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: the kids, and as someone with children, you don't make 627 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: friends with the little one's parents. You've already done it 628 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: with the older kids. I'm friended out guys done totally. 629 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: That makes so much sense, yea. And isn't Haley the 630 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: youngest of like five or six or something, so that 631 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: that would mean that Lydia is older than dev and Karen. 632 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: They didn't go to high school together anything, so they 633 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: may not really. But I loved sitting with Moira and 634 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: just having I joy. Loved being able to have a 635 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: vulnerable moment with Moira, even though it was through acting. Um. 636 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: It felt comforting to me because I think I had 637 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: had craved it as an actress, and I craved it 638 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: as um as a person who really admired her. That 639 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: I was kind of like taking what I could get. 640 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: I was so happy to have an excuse to just 641 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: be all dough eyed and hold Moira's hand and share 642 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: vulnerability with her was really cool. I loved that We'll 643 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: see I interpreted that a little like the scene a 644 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: little darker because when Karen says I was in love 645 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: with high school too, what she's not saying is and 646 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: it was with Dan, and we know what a bad 647 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: guy he is now and Nathan is very much his song, 648 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: and so it filled to me a little like I'm 649 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: supporting you, but I'm also warning you, like, yeah, that 650 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: was there. That was it for sure for me at 651 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: the time. Like as Haley, I don't think Haley was 652 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: really I don't know if she was catching all that. 653 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: I feel like she was. Well, when we're kids, we 654 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: hear what we want to hear. Yeah, as an adult, 655 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: definitely here it was definitely a warning of like a 656 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: be careful, but also I'm here for you if everything 657 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: blows up. When it all blows up, will be here. 658 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: I'll make coffee ut. Yeah, you know, I like messy. 659 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: The grown ups are on our show. I've said this before. 660 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: I feel like if I got this script as an 661 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: adult for one of like deb or Karen's roles, I'd 662 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, awesome, like great because the 663 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: stories are so fleshed out and fun. And I don't 664 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: know how many shows are doing that, you know, younger generation, 665 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: older generation thing. Even Dawson's was like pretty much just 666 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: about the kids. You only saw that grown ups every 667 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: once in a while. So I don't know, are there 668 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: shows that we need to be watching that the viewers 669 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: can tell us about that have both grown ups and kids. Yeah, 670 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: I would love to know what are the favorite teen 671 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: shows right now that are in this genre because I'm not. 672 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't have my finger on the pulse. Well I 673 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: don't have a teenager, you know. I'm like, yeah, we're 674 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: watching a lot of Craig of the Creek. Yeah, right 675 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: in and tell us I loved Um. Did you guys 676 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: see Generation on HBO? Girl if It's Hot on Nick Jr? 677 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Or like what I It was one of my pandemic shows. 678 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I love it so much. And I just found out 679 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: they're not coming back for a second season, which really 680 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: bummed me out. It's a really beautiful look at a 681 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: bunch of kids in high school. Um, but yeah, not 682 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: a not a lot of their parents either. I wonder 683 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: who's doing the kind of balanced kids at school parents. 684 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: You know, it feels like Stranger Things. It's like the 685 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: only show, the only thing we didn't have a tree hill. 686 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: It was like Aliens and the other side. Oh my gosh. 687 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: Season ten. Um. This is another listener question. Courtney says, 688 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: do you feel one character had a harder life than others? 689 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: And were you ever like, wow, your character was really 690 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: dealt a bad hands. Uh yeah, I'd like to confirm this. Yes, 691 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: to this day, I still like have kids coming up 692 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: to me like, how many dead moms do you have? 693 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: Like you got shot and assaulted wise in your own 694 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: home that you had to live in all by yourself afterwards, 695 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: it like, you know, Peyton's crazy train was relentless. Um. 696 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: I think it's made me a much more apathetic person 697 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: in real life because I'm like, well, at least it's 698 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: not Peyton Sawyer's drama. Like it's the worst that could 699 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: happen to me. Um, Yeah she was. She was a 700 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: rough one. Yeah, I It's funny. I get a lot 701 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: of that too, where people are like, man, Brooke Davis 702 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: just had it really rough. How many times did you 703 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: get punched in the face all the time? Yeah? I 704 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: got attacked and stalked and beaten and and like left 705 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: and dumped and betrayed. It was just like terrible. Um, 706 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: but you know then then better. But yeah, Oh the drowning, 707 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah I drowned after you left Hill. Yeah, I was 708 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: in like a gnarly I can't wait to get to 709 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: the stuff that I wasn't there for because I'm going 710 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: to be such a fan girl and be like, yeah 711 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: it was it was wild. Do you really drown? Yeah? 712 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: And Peyton didn't come home? What a pitch. No, I 713 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: know you missed my wedding. God, I know, travesty, But 714 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? What happened to Nathan? Didn't 715 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: I heard Nathan was kidnapped or something, so James wouldn't happen. 716 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: He was kidnapped by their Russian mafia Tree Hill Hill Dan, somehow, 717 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, And then I had to go undercover 718 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: and try and right now, your own husband, Yeah, I try. 719 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: I try, like dressed up like a hot street walker. 720 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,479 Speaker 1: You were a prostatute, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. 721 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: What happened? Oh my god, you guys. I'm going to 722 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,479 Speaker 1: drink so much bourbon and watch season's seven through nine 723 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: and have the best time. We'll get there. When we 724 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: get into full jumping the Shark, we are definitely going 725 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: to have to just start making cocktails. We need a 726 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: shark sound effect that Easton can put in when we're 727 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: like done speaking of speaking of sharks and notions and things. 728 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: Perhaps my favorite part of this episode is when Keith 729 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: and Lucas are like reasons to stay in Charleston and 730 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: they're like, we don't have a view like this in 731 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: Tree Hill, where we then established that Brook and Payton 732 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: are definitely at the beach and Tree Hill and Helly 733 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: gets married in front of the most beautiful body of 734 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: and Brooks dad has a boat. There's been a beach 735 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: house and dance like the whole show. I don't know 736 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: why they didn't just go take I mean, they had 737 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the money. I don't know why they didn't just take 738 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: Craig and Chad to Charleston and walk on Rainbow Row 739 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: or something like. There's just so there's so many interesting 740 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: things to see in Charleston. I don't know why they 741 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: do because they got their stuff for the viewers at home, 742 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: the stuff with Chad and Craig. When Keith and Lucas 743 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: go to Charleston, they just shot on Wrightsville Beach. That 744 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: was Helmington's still. It was just a different Carolina beach. 745 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but it was just so rightful, 746 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: you know, it was right Ville they were when they 747 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: were looking out Keith's apartment window, it was looking at 748 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: doc Side, the restaurant at the beach that we used 749 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: to go to. This is so funny that there, I mean, 750 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: Charleston is like it's a four hour drive. It's like 751 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: a totally different but it's a totally different world. That 752 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: would have been so easy, just not so funny. No 753 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: views like this and tree Hill even though this Tree Hill, 754 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: except every single one of them. Um, what did you guys? 755 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 1: Just speaking of cocktails, what did you guys have over Thanksgiving? 756 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: What did you guys drink on Thanksgiving? Well? I was 757 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: telling you guys, the reason I'm hurting so bad is 758 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: because Rose Berne introduced me to something called penicillin, good 759 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: old penicillin. But it's like a whiskey sit Yeah, what 760 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: is this? It's a it's like a bourbon and ginger 761 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: and what else is There's honey? I think there's honey 762 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: in it? Um took it up. Love a penicillin? We did. Um. 763 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: We we did a sort of like a pot lucky situation, 764 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: and because Grant and I had to travel, we did 765 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: all the wine. Shocking. Yeah, I mean we literally have 766 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: a wine suitcase. Now. It looks like a like a camera. Yeah, 767 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, like camera equipment travels in those Pelican cases. 768 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: It's like one of those, but just for wine. No, 769 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: it's not. This is a real thing, you guys. It's 770 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: a real thing. It's so incredible. His parents got it 771 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: for us and we were like we were like, oh, 772 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: sweet Dave and Paula, this is ridiculous. We will never 773 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: use this. We use it all the time. It's the 774 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: best gift. Yes, so you travel with it empty and 775 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: then you buy wine wherever you go and bring the wine. 776 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: Or in this case, because we were coming we were 777 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: traveling in for Thanksgiving, we brought wine. So all of 778 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: the stuff that we've been sourcing at home and like 779 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: from all the natural vineyards in California, we brought all 780 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: of this amazing wine to Oklahoma with us. And yeah, 781 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: we did like an eight bottle tasting for everyone, and 782 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: then some of us decided to finish the bottles that 783 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: weren't empty, and so us a few of us. I also, 784 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: like Hillary, have a terrible headache today, but honestly, it 785 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: was so worth it. Did you guys ever read Speaking 786 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: of hangovers, did you ever read the stein book? Steinbeck Book. 787 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: That's a hard thing to say three times fast when 788 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: you're hungover. Steinbeck Book travels with Charlie. He's so good. Steinbeck, 789 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: in like in his later years, decided he needed to 790 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: hit the road again and packed up a camper van 791 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: with his dog and was like, honey, I'll be back 792 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: and just like went and drove around America and wrote 793 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: this beautiful book about traveling with his dog, and he 794 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: talks about how um you have to, you know, wear 795 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: your your hangovers with pride because they're a consequence for 796 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: a well lived life and a good time. And I 797 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: just love it. So on days like today, I'm like, 798 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: you know what we earned? This last night was great. 799 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting an idea here where we need to 800 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 1: do a drama Queen's hangover tour of the United States 801 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: with your wine suitcase, Like how many cities and we 802 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: can take your maggie. Yeah. Great, We'll bring a dog 803 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: and bring a wine suitcase and we'll just go on 804 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: a tour and send us you're in kids, and we'll shoot. 805 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: It's like the mall tours we did but adult. Yeah, 806 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: inspired by Steinbeck and and red Wine. It'll be great, 807 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: the drama Queen's Hangover Tour. What were you drinking? Joy? 808 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: Would you make? Um? I had? I also had some whiskey. 809 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: I had a nice old fashioned um but with honey 810 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: syrup instead of simple syrup, which I really liked. And 811 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't like old fashions are too sweet, But I 812 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: do love a good you know, look, it's got to 813 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: have the look sardo cherry. It's got to have a 814 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: little little orange twist. Um. I thought that went nicely 815 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: with I make cranberry sauce every Thanksgiving. I have my 816 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: my same recipe that I've been making for years, and um, 817 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: it also has some vanilla and orange in it. So 818 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: mixed that up with my with my whiskey. It was 819 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: a very nice Japanese whiskey, nice and smooth, and my 820 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: friend had you know the ice cubes that are around 821 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: that are proper. Oh yeah, good stuff, Joey. I like 822 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: your voice when you talk about liquor because it gets 823 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: really like tender and soft, and I feel like you 824 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: need all you need, like a whole podcast of you 825 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: just being like and now you pour the whiskey over 826 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,959 Speaker 1: the ice. Yeah, it's like a Saturday at Live, skin 827 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: like sweaty balls. But the kids don't know what I'm 828 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: talking about. Hold on, before we end the show, I 829 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: just want to say my favorite part of the last 830 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: week was that Saturday Night Live last week did a 831 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: skit about a karaoke bar in Wilmington, North Carolina. They 832 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: didn't they thickly call out Wilmington's North Carolina and I 833 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: feel assaulted. Oh my god, please go and look up 834 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: this night from SNL. They're like, come and at you 835 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: from the karaoke bar here and Wilmen to North Carolina, 836 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: and I feel like someone's making fun of me, um, 837 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: of all of us. Yeah, I saw. I saw a 838 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: couple of friends from Wilmington's post about it. I'm like, 839 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: hold on a second, and sure enough, I want to 840 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: be at that party. There there to be at that 841 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: party so that behind the scenes. Oh boy, should we 842 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: spend a wheel. I'm so happy that we got to 843 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: start off the new season. I just was really fun 844 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: to see season to start up, and um, there's so 845 00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: many adventures to be had. Who is most likely to 846 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: cry watching a movie on a plane? I mean, who 847 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: isn't like, yeah, yeah, we're all suckers, all right, Okay, 848 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: let's pick. Let's pick somebody that's not us from the show. 849 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: Who's our cry baby? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, maybe honestly, Yeah, 850 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: he feels big feelings and doesn't like for people to know. 851 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: I've seen Antoine get tender. Yeah that's right. I think 852 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: you nailed it. Yeah, I love that. I mean when yeah, 853 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: when he starts talking about like Phil Collins and like 854 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: songs that like move him and you know, like, yeah, 855 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: Antin would definitely be the one to watch, you know something, 856 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: something truly touching the notebook? Yeah, okay, but what character 857 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: on the show, Well, you know who gets really emotional 858 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: in this episode? Why not Skills? Oh? Who Whitey? Yeah? 859 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking Whitey because he does get He's in 860 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: that hospital bed, like thinking about life and getting emotional. 861 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Whitey would watch a movie on a plane. Yeah, 862 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: but what if he watched like Turner classic movies on 863 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: a plane. It was just crying watching James Cagney every 864 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: time he can't turn the TV off. He doesn't know 865 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: how to like change thanks involuntarily is weaving? Uh? Yeah, 866 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: I hope you won't cry on airplanes. It's good to 867 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: feel things and then it is and then do therapy. 868 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: So that's our show, guys. I hope that you guys 869 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: had a great weekend and that you've got advil and 870 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: whatever else you need to get over your hangovers. Next 871 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: week is the episode two. It's truth doesn't make a noise. 872 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: I don't really know what that means. I can't wait 873 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: to find out. I have a great week ladies, Hey, 874 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. 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