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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are diving into the first episode

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Speaker 1: ever of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. That's right,

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Speaker 1: it's season one, episode one, Welcome to Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: We meet the Salt Lake City Housewives for the first

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Speaker 1: time ever, and yes, even Jen Shaw you know her

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Speaker 1: from the Masked Singer and now she has her own

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Speaker 1: formless beauty line. The one and only Jenny McCarthy joins

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Speaker 1: the hot seat. Her unfiltered take on everything makes this

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Speaker 1: one hilarious episode. This is the Real Housewives of Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City, Season one, Episode one, Welcome to Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. So I never saw Salt Lake and because

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Speaker 1: there are so many and I don't watch the Housewives regularly,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just don't. I never even watched when

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Speaker 1: I was on, except for episode each week to know

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Speaker 1: if I was getting in trouble, like I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: Wire now. I watched This Is Us with Britt you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't watch reality TV all that much.

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Speaker 1: So I am finding this fascinating going back and watching

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Speaker 1: from seasons long ago and then just knowing that there's

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Speaker 1: this whole other city that's being showcased, and like that

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Speaker 1: these people have come to life for me. So I

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Speaker 1: thought that the first thing that I thought, I always

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Speaker 1: think back to the beginning of Housewives, and that was

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Speaker 1: this is season one, episode one we're watching of Salt Lake,

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Speaker 1: and I think back to me being in like a

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Speaker 1: just living my true life. And so this is a

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Speaker 1: bunch of clowns in many ways, Like I don't like

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Speaker 1: it really is you go back and because they've been

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Speaker 1: watching for years, all these cities, so they're wearing co costumes.

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Speaker 1: So it's annoying because I like when before it changed,

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Speaker 1: and it changed during the care earl Kristen heather Era.

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Speaker 1: I came back and I was like, what the fun

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Speaker 1: we have glam and the Berkshire is like it annoyed me.

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Speaker 1: It will never go back to the original ever, right,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I saw a picture yesterday somebody texting

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Speaker 1: me a picture of Lisa Rinne in like a David

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Speaker 1: Byrne shoulder fashion outfit. I guess she was in London

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Speaker 1: or Briton, Milan or somewhere doing fashion stuff. And they

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Speaker 1: said to me, what's her five year plan? Exactly like

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Speaker 1: and I said, I don't know, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what she's wearing because I remember Lisa, and I like Lisa.

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Speaker 1: She was wearing like sheath dresses from the Today's Show

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Speaker 1: for the first couple of seasons of Housewives, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now she's in a David Byrne costume.

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Speaker 1: So everybody's gone crazy with the fashion. Well, this show

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Speaker 1: in particular, it's an interesting how they combine religion with

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Speaker 1: a character. Well, by the way, I'm not religious, and

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Speaker 1: I don't act like like it's literally like everything that

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't think that religious would mean. Is he so

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Speaker 1: jen Shaw? And I'm not saying this because we know

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Speaker 1: that she ends up going to jail. I texted Andy Kohen,

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Speaker 1: I said, this woman is insufferable, like was she always

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Speaker 1: is in something Episode one, she came in insufferable. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's good casting because you need someone. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they predict who's going to go to prison,

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Speaker 1: but they're seemed to be pretty good at it right. Well,

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Speaker 1: that that's fair. Also, I've been to Sundance many times.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone dressed like half these women. Never

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Speaker 1: one time in Utah have I seen any So this

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Speaker 1: is like the costume party for the show that we've

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Speaker 1: hair follicles to our toenail cuticles. Like it's it's really

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Speaker 1: it's really overboard in a way. You kind of you

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Speaker 1: want it to happen because you need to love to

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Speaker 1: hate it, you know what I mean? Love like Show Girls,

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Speaker 1: know you hate watch it, right, and they make it

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Speaker 1: so you want it with the ownership. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't it be called like the Real house Lives of

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Speaker 1: Park City because it feels like, aren't they mostly at

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Speaker 1: Park I'm like, oh, maybe, because the model is to

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Speaker 1: always say the big city, like it's New York City.

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Speaker 1: It's like, even though I mean it's Atlanta, because those

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Speaker 1: are all suburbs of Atlanta where they all that's true,

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Speaker 1: Like the Beverly Hills ladies they're in you know someone

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Speaker 1: the Housewives either. So let's not let the truth get

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Speaker 1: I saw her about to go skiing, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: that is an outfit that screams I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to ski, and then boom, we see her on the

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Speaker 1: bunny hill. You know, right, And didn't you immediately when

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Speaker 1: someone shows so much? Didn't you immediately then say like

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Speaker 1: is any is everything real? True? Of course? Now, mind you,

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Speaker 1: I let this episode one slip into episode two, so

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Speaker 1: which is you don't feel like they're real friendships. And

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Speaker 1: Everyone was rooting, you know, for you. And but there's

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Speaker 1: don't know why I talk like this's Meredith. Then is it? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Like I imagine you have some really nice things. I'm

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Speaker 1: And I don't because Bethany, I don't think it's necessarily

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Speaker 1: represents wealth, and so I better show it, push it,

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Speaker 1: so I show that I belong with the Joneses. That's

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Speaker 1: That apartment was where I lived on the real housewise,

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Speaker 1: But from the shows. I mean, you were on it,

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Speaker 1: but I look at Beverly Hills and Erica. When she

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Speaker 1: a character in the show. And if they don't possess

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Speaker 1: that quality, they're looked down upon. Right. And then also

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Speaker 1: people never realize that if you live in Atlanta, you know,

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Speaker 1: or doesn't have it is a witch hunt. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: housewives have gone to jail or husband's or you know,

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Speaker 1: desperate Yeah, exactly, it's a desperation. I think for fame.

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Speaker 1: I think we've made we're in a society right now

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Speaker 1: then as you see, when you get there, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's all cracked up to be. It's difficult, and if

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Speaker 1: You're fucked because saying you're saying that the fame is

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Speaker 1: the meat, I mean you're saying that you need the meat.

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Speaker 1: The fame is a side dish. Like I always say,

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Speaker 1: you can make a lifestyle out of a life, you

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Speaker 1: can't make a life out of a lifestyle. So The

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Speaker 1: Housewives intrinsically is throwing lifestyle on camera and onto the screens,

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Speaker 1: and then a lot of people can't back it up. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the thing, Bethany. You wouldn't sign up for

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know what I was even signing up for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I had eight thousand dollars to my bank account. Correct,

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Speaker 1: that was a different show. I feel like it's totally

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Speaker 1: two different planets back then when you're on totally now

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's grab it, it's it's attracting certain personalities

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Speaker 1: people that need superficial rewards. So it's like I need

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Speaker 1: the fame, I need to look good in my Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's the only way I'm going to get there. It's

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Speaker 1: the only way I'm going to climb up the ladder.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's not looking. It's there's no spirituality and

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Speaker 1: there's no substance. Correct. Also, here's what I also think,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't even gotten into the show, which is

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Speaker 1: amazing because it's the first time I've ever really done this,

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Speaker 1: like you are desperate to be on television, Like you'll

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Speaker 1: because I've had them want to do many parties and

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Speaker 1: lesson is that housewives are very competitive about wanting to

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Speaker 1: Like you're Jenny. You're like, no, I want it to

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Speaker 1: I don't want this in my house. I don't want

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Speaker 1: important or everyone to make sure that they have a storyline. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like there's all these things that like you're not supposed

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing I thought, Because this isn't the

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Speaker 1: How my daughter would never tolerate me, Like you're like,

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Speaker 1: So but that's when I saw Jen say that, I

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Speaker 1: But now we know it's not just from her mouth,

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Speaker 1: So I've seen all vintage housewives as you already know,

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Speaker 1: This is definitely the most desperate of housewives I've seen group. Yes,

424
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: is this feels like blood in the water to me.

425
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: This group just like it feels like desperate. So that's

426
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: probably good. You know, Now we've got the girl is

427
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: Heather is the one who says so she what a

428
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: great way that they edit this, she said, and she

429
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: seems cool the blonde. She says, Mormon life is about

430
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: attaining perfection. Yes, what the hell does that? What does

431
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: that mean? You know? I thought about that for a

432
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: quick second and I was like, wow, but all the

433
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: botox in the world is not going to get you

434
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: into heaven faster. Like they're putting all their energy into

435
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: perfection the wrong way. I'm thinking she's thinking being a

436
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: good person, being nice when there anything. But I mean,

437
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: they're really the biggest contradictions. This is the Handmaid's Tale,

438
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: because perfection would mean that you're pious, you never curse,

439
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: you never swear, you never drink. Okay, fine, and that

440
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: also seems very high pressure. But then to take that

441
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: to a superficial the outside of you is perfect, like

442
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: that seems like hell in every direction. Well, I was

443
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: just surprised that all of them weren't kicked out of

444
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: the church. Now a few of them were excommunicated. That Whitney, Whitney,

445
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: the one who got married the renewing of the vows.

446
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: It's very obvious that Lisa, who I met years ago

447
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: with Sundance, It's very obvious that Lisa is on this

448
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: show thinking that she's up here and she's down there,

449
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: just like when you do a show. I remember this

450
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: because I remember Ramona being so shocked that Alex and

451
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: Simon were casting, that they were from Brooklyn. Brooklyn was

452
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: it was another country back then. Brooklyn now is cooler

453
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: and more expensive than New York, but back then and

454
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: back in my day, Brooklyn was another country. And Ramona

455
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: was horrified that Alex and Simon were cast. And that's

456
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: another brilliant, brilliant casting that because well, they didn't seem

457
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: to fit in. But that's the point. You don't want

458
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: everybody exactly the same. So it seems to be that

459
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Lisa really doesn't feel that she should be on this

460
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: show because it's probably very elite and there's a certain

461
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: aliber and a certain amount of fur and Gucci cheese,

462
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: and she's the Queen of Sundance and she's the queen

463
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: of Sundance, and that Heather is not at the level.

464
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: And you know they're not seeing they're each an ingredient

465
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: in a cake that they don't get to see until

466
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: we see it come out of the oven. Wait, didn't

467
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: they see a picture of your face? In the episode,

468
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: there was a flash in the corner of the screen.

469
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: You're lying, No, I swear he wait, I go, there's

470
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: Bethany there like celebrities. Oh Sundance. You think it was

471
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: because I met her at that event? Yes, Oh my god,

472
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: we have the hand corner of the screen. I was like, oh,

473
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: you're into See how I didn't even see myself. I'm

474
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: so excited. Okay, wait, look at you. You're very observant, Jenny.

475
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: See what's so crazy is that we're talking about this

476
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: weird show and I've met you before and I'm learning

477
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: more about you through this show. Like, you're very observant.

478
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: Two good points. Wow, I didn't even notice myself, so clue. Okay, So, yes,

479
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: I met her there, and that's funny. I feel so

480
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: famous that I was. I had I had a cameo

481
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: on the Salt Lake and I'm right. I thought you

482
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: had some dirt on her. I was like, oh my god,

483
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: I met her years ago. I think she The truth is,

484
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I always like to say there was Sammy

485
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Hagar before me and Diddy, But before me, there really

486
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: wasn't anybody like marketing and monetizing liquor. Celebrities put the

487
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: liquor down. You didn't market it, you didn't take pictures.

488
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: You're in this business, you're my witness. But back then

489
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: I think she was promoting it tequila, but long before

490
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: it was cool. I'm going to give her some props.

491
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: At Chef Dance, this event that I hosted just trying

492
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: to be somebody, do something, have my name on something,

493
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: trying to make a dollar at a fifteen cents. This

494
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: event where different celebrity chefs quote unquote celebrity chefs chefs.

495
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Each night we'd host this dinner and I got to

496
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: like hobnob with celebrities, and she was there, and she

497
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: was I believe she had that tequila back then, so

498
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: she will correct me if I'm wrong. She was very nice,

499
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: she was hustling, and I remember her fondly. I don't

500
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: know much about her, but I remember liking her. And

501
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: it was like she had a little bar outside, I believe,

502
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: and in the main event, and like every night you'd

503
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: kind of I was the host, she had a little

504
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: bar outside. It was like this cast of characters in

505
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: this play for ten nights of Chef Dance. So I'd

506
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: see her and I had a very pleasant BTS experience

507
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: with her. Just from note from very surface, but like

508
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: she could have been a bitch too, she wasn't. She

509
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: was nice. It's all that I knew. Can I can

510
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: I ask you how much of um how much editing

511
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: is there where they can actually form someone to look

512
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: like a completely different personality from whom they are. Do

513
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: they have that much power to make someone look like

514
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: a bitch or a sweetie pie? Like? Can they can

515
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: they actually do that through editing and make it fair?

516
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's a big They could. They're only using

517
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: ingredients that they were given. But if someone wanted to

518
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: edit me all harsh, they fully could and maybe have.

519
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: But I've never blamed editing. I think of it this way.

520
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: You go on a blind date. You meet somebody on

521
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: tin Tinder, and you go on a blind date. It's

522
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: an hour and half law they unless they have a

523
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: vendetta against this specific person, It's an hour and a

524
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: half long that date, that date, and you come home

525
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: and you tell your girlfriend. You can crystallize it in

526
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: three minutes what it was. So that's what good editors

527
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: and producers are really doing. They're crystallizing it. So I

528
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: met her, she was she was nice. I was also

529
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: in control of the event, and I was working with

530
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: the people who own the event, you know, the only event.

531
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: So for argument's sake, maybe she was nice to me

532
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: because of that, But I had a very positive, nice experience. Yeah, exactly,

533
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: So I had a nice experience with her. Who knows,

534
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: it could have been Jen Shaw in that room and

535
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: I would have had a good experience with her. I

536
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: don't know, but I just remember back and I was

537
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: a nobody then, and I remember people who treated me

538
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: like shit when I was a nobody, as you do too,

539
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: And so she was. She seemed like a cool, nice person,

540
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: and I just remember her hustling something like I was

541
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: hustling something. So that was really my only experience. So

542
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: so Meredith now is the one with the husband that

543
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: commented on her boots. And this really hit me because

544
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: the boots were just normal, nothing, nice, fine boots and

545
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: he was wearing a do your Logo backpack in the

546
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: same scene. How are you commenting on her normal ski boots?

547
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: She's like, He's like, well, those aren't exactly park City

548
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: and he's wearing ad your backpack. Explain this to me.

549
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of a he's wanting

550
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: to poke the bear a little bit because we find

551
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: out later in the episode that he's not happy with

552
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: the marriage or what she's been talking about. So I

553
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of like er, you know,

554
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of bleeds out if you're not addressing something. So

555
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: I think it was a little poke. That was his

556
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: best attempt at a poke, right, And what's what sense

557
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: do you get of why they moved being Jewish from

558
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Chicago to Park City? Now he's got to be back

559
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: in Chicago, Like it just seems like an interesting move,

560
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: knowing where you're moving and what the general like, what

561
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: what did was that explained? I didn't understand why I

562
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: wasn't explained yet, So I don't know what's to come

563
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: because we both don't know what we're about to see.

564
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: That's why I was like his face humming a lot

565
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: from Chicago? Now, does he have a secret family there?

566
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? So Lisa Barlow and her husband, Okay,

567
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: they take their kid through the drive their Wendy's and

568
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: she's just saying, I don't like to cook, we don't

569
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: have meals together. That seemed like a I don't even

570
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: understand celebrating that we never sit down at the table.

571
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to cook, we go through the drive through.

572
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Explain that to me. I almost thought it was an exaggeration.

573
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: I was like, is she just trying to create a

574
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: character for herself right now or is it true? Like

575
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: we've all gone through drive throughs and we've all been

576
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: busy once in a while. But I was like, can

577
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: this actually we truly not sit together if they're not

578
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: a family, and you're letting know that, I don't, I

579
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I just thought just a something off the top.

580
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll have to fast forward some shows to

581
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: see if it's actually true or not. Also, once you've

582
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: painted yourself and this is the thing about let's talk

583
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: about like our own friends in Hollywood and all that stuff,

584
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: once you've painted yourself into the perfect corner, and I

585
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: think of that with Luanne Darling. You should never put

586
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: lipstick on the table because the minute you act like

587
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: you're this, you're a countess. So and we saw this

588
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: with Erica Jane. It's expensive to be me and it's

589
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: fifty thousand. You're up here. You've made you pinch yourself

590
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: into the rich corner. Now the Tom thing happens, tom

591
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: thing could have happened to many people, and the Luanne

592
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: things could have happened to many people. But when you

593
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: paint yourself into the etiquette or I'm so rich it's

594
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: so expensive to be me, that's when you have problems

595
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: like That's where Karna comes in really good with the show, though, Bethany,

596
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: because when people are so identified with themselves, with their

597
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: own identity, it's all that they literally created this thing

598
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: and they presented on this giant. You know, it's their

599
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: soap box. It's it's gonna come crashing back on them always, yes,

600
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: and well you think it's karma. I think it's karma

601
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: and also life like No, yes, I don't know anybody

602
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: who's been incarcerated for all these different things. I don't

603
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: know anybody like Luan who got arrested for like cursing

604
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: out a like I don't know, well, I know Luan,

605
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: but I think it's karma and it's also life. So

606
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: life gets in the meaning. But it's the corner you

607
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: paint yourself into, like you notice, it's so much more meaning.

608
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Ellen, who I know, well, I don't

609
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: think that her problems would have been as great if

610
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: be kind to each other wasn't the last thing she said,

611
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: and it's a great message to say, be kind to

612
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: each other, regardless of what she's doing not to but

613
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like something for people to hang onto.

614
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: So I'm hanging on to Lisa Barlow part of the

615
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Mormon church, and it's to attain perfection. And you're now

616
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: saying you don't sit down at dinner with your kids

617
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: and you eat fast food and go through the drive through.

618
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: It's it's the previous comment is what defines the rest

619
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: of it. So you say you like junk food and

620
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: you're not great at sitting down with your kids. Okay,

621
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: but you've said you're a Mormon, So it's about attaining perfection, right,

622
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: So now I don't understand this juxtaposition. It's real Housewives

623
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: of contradictions. It truly is. Yes, And in the greatest

624
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: place you can find them is any first season of

625
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: the Housewives, because it's almost like going on a first date.

626
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Do you ever notice people who they really are? Sometimes?

627
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: And yes, then you wind up seeing the true colors.

628
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: It's like I remember back like I am someone that

629
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: doesn't cheat on anybody, and like, oh, that means you

630
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: cheat on people like you know, it's like people do

631
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: wind up. It's like this life. That's why I call

632
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: it karma. It's like you can't escape um evolution, spiritual evolution,

633
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: no matter yes, something will come bite you in the ass.

634
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: And now do you think that people? Here's the thing

635
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I used to think and I still sometimes think that

636
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: you could grab any five women in a mall and

637
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: put them together and you'd come up with something like this.

638
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Do you really think, like, do you think everybody has

639
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: these dark circles and is do you think they know

640
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: that they're lying or they're trying to secret it to

641
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: be true? Like what is actually going on? I mean,

642
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: how do they what do you think? I love that

643
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: question so much because I'm one of those people that

644
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: love to peel onions and go deep down rabbits hole

645
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: and thinkings like that. You know, I don't think everybody

646
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: has those deep dark secrets and could unravel like that.

647
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: But everybody has a story. Everybody has pain. But it's

648
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: a matter of how you present it, how you deal

649
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: with it, who you take it out on, do you

650
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: work on it? And there's just some people that only

651
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: know how to project it. There's no self inquiry, so

652
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of you know, the projectors and

653
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: the self inquiry people that know how to do the work.

654
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: So I think they're are two different groups of people

655
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: that they would make horrible housewives. People that do that

656
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: have done therapy and working on themselves started in today's

657
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: day and age. You know, like, would we really cast

658
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: someone on this Salt Lake City who was a peaceful,

659
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: kind person that did tons of work on themselves and

660
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: doesn't project No, no, but more than well yes, but no. Correct.

661
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: But I think it's being self aware. I think it's

662
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: so important for people to be self aware. And you know,

663
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Caroline Manzo a couple of

664
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: months ago about something and she talked about she said,

665
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know her very well, and

666
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell she's done on the show,

667
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: but I she said, we had a rough pandemic and

668
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: this happened, and it took a hit. We took a hit.

669
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: And it was like three sentences, but it was so

670
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: shocking because it was nothing that anybody would ever say,

671
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: just like to say we took a hit during the pandemic.

672
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: To be honest about what's actually going on. I mean,

673
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: and I was I think I was successful in the

674
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: house because I was like not buying diamonds and trying

675
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: to pretend I was rich because I wasn't rich. I

676
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: was in a cheap old kitchen trying to be something,

677
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: and I was just explaining in real time where I

678
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: was and what I was dealing with. Well, you were

679
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: one of us. You were the audience, you were one

680
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: of us. You know. I was being someone saying to me.

681
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you want to move in together? He's like,

682
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later, like in front of you guys.

683
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Like I was exposed. So yeah, I wasn't like, let

684
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: me go shop for shit and pretend on something I

685
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: didn't even know to be that. And I don't know,

686
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: why can you name another housewife right now that is

687
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: self aware? Because I can't. I would say if I

688
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: had to, and I don't know all the shows, but

689
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: on this one, there certainly was. If I had to

690
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: put the most self aware of one, on this one,

691
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: it was the blonde who got mayor who had the

692
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: renewal of the vows. Do you think she's self aware?

693
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Don't I think so? I don't. I don't know from

694
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: what she was comparing her and Heather, because Heather was

695
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Heather was like saying her flaws and things, but it

696
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: seemed like a little put on, like doing it to say,

697
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: like I like black man, I like gay men, Like

698
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: we know where a camera there. The other girl was

699
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: like I cheated and I want to like get back

700
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: at those people that didn't like it, and like there

701
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: was something about her that just was like, this is

702
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: what went on and this is how I feel, and

703
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: I haven't seen. She could be off the show for

704
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: all I know. I'd like, I don't know either. I

705
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: have no idea. But that's that's actually a really good

706
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: one to point out, because you're right, she was honest

707
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: about it, but we, like I had no idea. She

708
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: could turn out to be the most evil and we

709
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: don't have to like her, but I at least think

710
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: she was honest. So I think that the I think

711
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: that maybe Candy is fairly self aware. Oh yeah, I

712
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: would say if I had to pick the most self aware,

713
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: because right, you may like someone more, but self aware

714
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: is different, you know, like like Caroline is honest, was

715
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: honest with me about taking a hit during the pandemic.

716
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: But I watched back some of her episodes and when

717
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: she's like taking over during the table flip and like

718
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm the Dawn and you're gonna come kiss the ring

719
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: and go through like she was being a buff. I

720
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: didn't love that. That's not that self aware. She didn't really,

721
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: she was being like that. Candy is fairly self aware

722
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: and manages to deliver content and still somehow be in

723
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: control of herself and not in a self produced way

724
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: like she rides her time. But so that's why I

725
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, and I haven't seen that one in

726
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: years either. But that's what I gather from that. Were

727
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: actually some really good names. But I will say about

728
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City ones, they haven't in that this

729
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: first episode. They haven't experience in Spain. Once you go

730
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: through the fame mill and you come back yourself, you

731
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: know that self aware could be gone because now you're

732
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: reading tweets. You're there, drank the shit, you drank the

733
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: kool aid. You drank kool aid, and now you're getting

734
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: bombarded with all these people. I don't like this that

735
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: you did this. I don't like this. They're like, oh,

736
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: now I need to hide my flaws or my demons

737
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: or my skeletons because or become who they want me

738
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: to be, and I'll become less authentic like and that's

739
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: the big rub two here, because you know, on this show,

740
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: these women they're trying to give the customer what the

741
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: customer wants. They've seen us watch Beverly Hills. They've seen

742
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: us see all the Ramez and the Gucci head to do.

743
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: They're trying to give the customer what the customer wants,

744
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: and then the customer will go back and be mad.

745
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody complained about Mindy Kaling's weight. Now she

746
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: lost weight and they're on her about the ozempic and

747
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: did you do did you lose weight exactly how we

748
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: wanted you to or Hyle, we don't believe you that

749
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: it's working out it so it's a witch hunt because

750
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: we want you to do it the way we want

751
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you to do. We want you to be rich, but

752
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: we don't want you to flaunt it like it's it's

753
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: it's so you go. That's the thing, Betty, I gotta

754
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: know this because that meeting that happens at the end

755
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: of each season, the dreaded meeting where people find out

756
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: if they're coming back as a friend or not at all?

757
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: A la la la la. Do people only have one

758
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: year contracts? Is that to keep people on their toes?

759
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Is that to keep them hungry or despot I love? Okay,

760
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: So what happens is at the beginning of the season,

761
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: producers want to sit down with you and like talk

762
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: to you. What's going on, what's going with your kid,

763
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: what's going with your life, blah blah blah. And like

764
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: I said, in the very beginning of the process, you're

765
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: like throwing and I just Duranda jumps off the page.

766
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: Drenda always wanted it to be like her friend's restaurant.

767
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Can we go here in my trip? And I know this?

768
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: And you get tired as you get older in it,

769
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: and like you don't care anymore. But so you sit

770
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: down and you're like, I think we should do this,

771
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: and I think we should do pottery, and I think

772
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: I want to go get my real estate license. So

773
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, let's follow that. And what happens is they

774
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: say everything and the producers are yesing you. Then you

775
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: get into it and they've got five housewives, they've got

776
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: a certain number of days a week and one thread.

777
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: It's like a tree. It's like a tree, and it

778
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: could have branches to it, so I could say something

779
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: and we could do this one stupid thing that wasn't

780
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: supposed to be something. But if there's some lunatic that's

781
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: at that class, that's its own little tree branch that

782
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: will grow. And then someone over here is saying, but

783
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: wait a minute, why aren't you showing my charity. Then

784
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: you'll get into another fight because they shot it, but

785
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: then they did naar it. So next season you're mad

786
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: at them because they shot it just to fucking shut

787
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: you up, but then they didn't narrow it or you

788
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: aired two seconds of it, so that was people getting

789
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a mad and then people think their producers being like

790
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: that was a great scene. I don't know why you

791
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: didn't focus more on that, you know. So it's like

792
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wheeling and dealing, but once you

793
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: get onto the field and the game has started, it's

794
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: hard to stop them down. But we need you to

795
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: go over to do this thing. And they're like rolling

796
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: their eyes because they got fucking fish over here in

797
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: the boat. The fish over here. There's fish with this

798
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow fight with you know, Lisa Barlow thing with

799
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: Heather like that's where the fish went. So it's like

800
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face.

801
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: So at the end of the season, you shoot it.

802
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: It's on. Nothing is known until after the reunion is aired,

803
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: and then all the ratings are in, and then they'll

804
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: send everybody, in the most tortuous manner a pickup letter.

805
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: So someone didn't get the letter, they might get a

806
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: phone call that they didn't get the pickup letter. Then

807
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: they start with terminology, the stupid pause terminology. So then

808
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: you need to say that you left and all that,

809
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: and ninety eight percent were fired. Two percent have left.

810
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I left, Denise Richards left, Carolin Manzo left. That's pretty

811
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: much the rest were fired. I asked Andy. At one point,

812
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I feel like obviously each woman

813
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: has to, you know, make sure that they somewhat hit

814
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: it out of the park, at least have a storyline

815
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: or some substance. They can't just sit there like look

816
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: like a like an observer through the season. And if

817
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: you push, you know, to push buttons, you become kind

818
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: of a bad guy. You bring the drama, bring the drama.

819
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: But then you're damned if you do, and you're damned

820
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: if you don't, because you get killed in social media

821
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: for like bringing the drama. But then if you're boring,

822
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: you get killed for being born right. Like Lisa Wren

823
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: is a great example because she went in, she brought it,

824
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: she did it, she was the villain. It's really about

825
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: where the taste of the audience is. If they love

826
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: to hate you, like you're loving to hate Jnshaw right

827
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: now at this point in the series. If they love

828
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: to hate you, fine, If they love to love you, fine.

829
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: If they hate to hate you, bye bye. So the

830
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: audience ended up hating to hate Lisa Rinna is effectively

831
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: what seems like it happened, or hating to hate Ramot

832
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: like it makes you feel gross you hate something bad

833
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: when you're watching because you hate to hate, like loving

834
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: to hate it's like a guilty pleasure. It's dynasty. So

835
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a psychology to it all. But

836
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: to your point, and to the distilling down and fear based,

837
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, casting a group it doesn't know each other

838
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: because we have to check the box, Andy responded with,

839
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's it's a fine line to walk.

840
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: He's right, Yeah, he's right, because he's a fine line

841
00:43:45,520 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: to walk exactly so doing showcasing a wedding, and first

842
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: season seemed very very desperate. I like an excommunication. I

843
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: mean it's I mean, to be excommunicated from the church,

844
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: and everybody here has some some tie to bring him yet,

845
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: like to the to the founders of the more im

846
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: in religion. How crazy is that? That girl, that blonde

847
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: girl is very attractive, and I'm trying to picture fourteen

848
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: years ago not to be like what that combo was

849
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: like at day off. She's a babe. Now she's a babe,

850
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: and she's got a stripper pole, and she looks a

851
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: little bit like you to me, like she I was like,

852
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: this is funny. This is the one who looks the

853
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: most like genuine. She's really pretty and like blonde and

854
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: perky and like the blue eyes, and like I was

855
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: into her, and she's got the stripper pole. I liked her. Yeah,

856
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: who my friend? Who would you be friends with if

857
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: you had to be friends, if you were forced to

858
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: be friends in this group, they were the only women alive,

859
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: I would say her. But I don't think we have

860
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: a ton in colm with her personality. I don't think so.

861
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: So probably Lisa, and maybe that's because I met her

862
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: before and I haven't seen her. I think she becomes

863
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: a disaster in many ways. I don't know, but probably

864
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: Lisa because there's too much being hidden from the wife

865
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: with the husband who's out of town, and that's just

866
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: not going to work for me. I don't like any

867
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: I'd rather messy than like. Not true, that's true. So

868
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: the blonde who looks more like you, the pretty blonde

869
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: or Lisa, I thank you. Um. I would probably say

870
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: the pretty blonde because she doesn't seem explosive. I'm not.

871
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: I don't really being around. I'm an Irish Catholic family

872
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: of so many alcoholics in my family that gives me,

873
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, triggers. You're like, oh, it's like I can't

874
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: do that. So she seemed like she'd be a little peaceful,

875
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: but you know, she could turn into the Exorcist by

876
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: episode you know four. I don't know yet exactly. I

877
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know either. We're speaking. People are gonna be like

878
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: you doubt two dumb dumbs. We don't even know exactly.

879
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: Oh so now let's get to heart. This is where

880
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: it's full BTS fakeness. So Whitney sits down with this

881
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: other girl. So Mary Cosby's married to the grandpa. I

882
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't even understand it. You can explain

883
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: it to me and I won't be able to understand.

884
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand she wound up marrying her great to

885
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: keep the church in the family. I don't know, but

886
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I want. I think the producers in the casting deserve

887
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: and award. I think they're this is unbelievable that you've

888
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: found people like this, Like this is really award winning casting.

889
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: So this woman is somehow married to her step grandpa.

890
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Does that even count? I don't know. Does that count?

891
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand. I don't really understand it, but

892
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: it feels its incestuous to me on me too. But

893
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: is it? Is it legal? Or is this like different

894
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: like Mormon law? I don't I don't know. So she

895
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: seems fucking nuts. She seems nuts. Now do you think

896
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: that this money is real? With the Valentino and with

897
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: this stuff and the sharing in the closet with the

898
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: gen Shaw, do you think this is real? No? Because

899
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: I think when people are that obnoxious about it, it's

900
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: it's sus to me. I go, okay, okay, This is

901
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: where it's fake, where she's going to go to the

902
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: party and Jen Shaw is gonna invite her at a house.

903
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: It was a good lie that she's saying because the

904
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: girl whose birthday it was wanted her there. That feels

905
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: like a lie. But you see that the producers have

906
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: been texting the girl at the table to be like, no,

907
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: you have to invite her, you have to invite her,

908
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: and like, did you get a text? It's so embarrassing,

909
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Like Mary Cosby was sitting there and the producer should

910
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: have said, like, just look at your phone, and then

911
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: the girl comes back and it's there. It's just too

912
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: fake to look at your text. Did you get a text?

913
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: I know, I even I saw that. I was like, oh,

914
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: you could tell the producers are texting her right now.

915
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: But I will see. I will give Mary the goat

916
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: line of all lines, which is you smell like a hospital.

917
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're going yeah, okay. And she just

918
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: basically hot her whole thing in her life. She did

919
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: not paint herself into the perfect corner. It's the only

920
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: thing I'll say, she said. I say whatever the fuck

921
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: is on my mind. Everyone else says it about me,

922
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: So you know, but it still leaves a mark. So

923
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: she says, so she and Jen are fake friends. Obviously

924
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: you could tell they're casting a show. They've become friends

925
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: or in each other's closets, and a fight already ensues

926
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: by the time this cake is baked. It feels like

927
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 1: there was a pile it shot and totally it feels

928
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: like there's a mixture of like old and new scenes

929
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: that don't track that are part of like when they're

930
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: deciding if this is going to be a sold show.

931
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: It feels like a mixed weird Hodgepodge potlock supper of

932
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: shooting our scenes. They stotch taped a scene from the

933
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: pilot into this, thank you. It feels like right, So

934
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: she became friends with Jen. They're already fighting, thank god.

935
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: And I just want to say that Jen's like, it's

936
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Jen Shaw, it's the shah. Shelle, just call it the shale.

937
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: Have the marketing be called the fucking Shala and say

938
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: it right, it's the gen shot, It's the Shaw shell shale.

939
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Lose it the syllable so stupid like sal. So, anyway,

940
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: we're at the shale, and um, she said, she smells

941
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: like hospital. I kind of I kind of understand that

942
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: being a sentence if someone might say it's a very distinct,

943
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: very distinct, it is. I I went, I understand what

944
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: she's saying. Now, is it right? Say no? Not necessarily?

945
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Is it hilarious? Fuck? Yeah? But um when she says

946
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: was like a hospital, like I know exactly what she's

947
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: talking about, Like it's oh my god, it's the perfect description.

948
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: But then she doubles down with what she says when

949
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: she finds out that Jen was like, I just had

950
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: an aunt that had her legs cut off. And then

951
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: she goes on to say, well, it's not my fault

952
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: that she doesn't eat healthy. Oh no, when she was

953
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: in the interview and she went on to no fucking

954
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: he Jen, Jen has a fucking turtle like her rthy.

955
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: She did trip. She didn't double down, she quad dripple down.

956
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: She was just like, I mean, like you said anything,

957
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: someone lost her legs And she's like, wow, she mustn't

958
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: have eaten healthy. Go eating fruit? Like what that has

959
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: Stop eating bad? She's like eating bad? That's an evil part,

960
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Like that you're evil? That just went evil? Like she

961
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: made Jen Shaw look right totally, this is crazy. She

962
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: just said, well, it's not my fault. She like she's

963
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: tripling down. She went deep on it. It's that's a

964
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: person though. I bet you she's not around anymore. That's

965
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: I hate to hate like she's going on the hate

966
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: to hate road. Even jen Shaw is on the love

967
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: to hate road. This girl right now is on the hate.

968
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's going that great to me.

969
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: That's right asking for a friend. Um, so, what the

970
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: fuck would make jen Shaw have a party and even

971
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: pretended it's for somebody else. It was so offensive to

972
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: under the guise of it being for somebody else. How embarrassing.

973
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: I think I think that was on purpose. I think

974
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, they're gonna love to gossip about this.

975
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I could think of. It had

976
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: to be a conscious decision to go, all right, people

977
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: are gonna like love to hate me that I threw

978
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: this party for my friend, but I have my name

979
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: on the entrance, you know. I think I think it

980
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: was a little on purpose. I don't think she was.

981
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: She could be that dumb. But or did the train

982
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: leave a station? The producers are talking about we want

983
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: to have a party for Meredith's birthdays coming up what

984
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: should we do. Maybe Meredith is nuts like me and

985
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want to bomb her own house. Maybe Jen Shaw

986
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: is living in a house of cards anyway, So she's like,

987
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: I lie to my husband like I lie to other people,

988
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna i want to be the center of attention,

989
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: so I'll throw this party. And then the train left

990
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: the station and she's got and who said it though, like, um,

991
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that she's a she's she's she's kind

992
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: of conservative. I don't think she's gonna want these like

993
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: Chippendale strippers at a party. And Jen was just like,

994
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't care. It was definitely right, Like she's being

995
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 1: marketed to be the classy one, Meredith, right, Like she's

996
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: marketed to be the you know what I'm saying. But

997
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: her husband's got a your backpack, she has a gay son,

998
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: and she's the conservative one, like I don't know where

999
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: these fake labels come from. I don't know. And she

1000
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: wears a giant pink feather like Maleficent outfit. Right, they

1001
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: all just look like lost, little twelve year old girls

1002
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: on the playground that would that would normally never talk

1003
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: to each other. Have you ever gone to the mecal,

1004
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I have not have you now? Okay, but does this

1005
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: she kept calling this, why, yes of salt? Like what

1006
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: with white sheets taped to the ceiling? I mean, I mean,

1007
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I go, wait a minute, she's moving the furniture out

1008
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: for white sheets on the wall. Like that's where I

1009
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: don't get some of these things. No, me too, right?

1010
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: What the white Yeah, that's a great pause. And now

1011
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: if you watch the party, it's white sheets and a

1012
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: dumb little couch. There's like they're not even like lit.

1013
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing except just white. We don't want to

1014
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: see the brown walls. We want white sheets, right. And

1015
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: so she had a traumatic eight odor gland removing surgeries,

1016
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: which made it very traumatic to go back and think

1017
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: about because it reminds her when she smells this other

1018
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: person's hospital like that. Wait didn't she Did she say

1019
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: she died too? Did she say she good? They had

1020
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: to bring me back? Yes? Right, yes, yes, Sometimes I

1021
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: just want to look at you my notebook because I

1022
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: have this notebook and the last thing that I wrote,

1023
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: whether the last thing that I wrote, and I can't wait.

1024
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna go fucking crazy. The last thing I wrote

1025
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: was vile people That's what I wrote. She just said

1026
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: about an amputee that she had to go get her

1027
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: glands removed and and eat more of whatever, And I

1028
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: wrote vile people like I don't know how this show survived.

1029
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. All right, we're getting the

1030
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: producers on. What did we ask you in the beginning?

1031
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Jenny wanted in the beginning to know something. Do you

1032
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: want to know about the Mormon rules? Okay, let's go

1033
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: give us the Mormon rules? Okay? No alcohol, no alcohol,

1034
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: no tobacco, no tobacco, no coffee or tea? What the fuck? Okay? Like,

1035
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: what are these arbitraryials? No coffee or tea? What okay?

1036
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: But botox is okay? Coffee is bad, but botox is okay.

1037
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: This is such a sick, fucking crazy go ahead. No drugs,

1038
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: no drugs, okay, No sex before marriage, sex before marriage.

1039
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I would not make it on this series. Yeah, you've

1040
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: got fired two six rules ago. Okay? How how are

1041
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: any of them even a Mormon still on the show?

1042
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Are Are they any of them still? Right? Is anybody

1043
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: still a true, tried and true Mormon? That or no?

1044
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow who used to be Jewish but now is Mormon. Wait,

1045
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: but she has an alcohol line, so she doesn't drink it.

1046
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: She's saying she's peddling. She doesn't get high on her own,

1047
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: supplies that with the guys. Is she drinks it and

1048
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: claims she's just Mormon? Two point zero? Ah, that's a scam.

1049
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: Two point Oh okay. Who's still on the show today?

1050
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: Lisa Barlow? Okay, the they're gay? Okay? Meredith Marks Whitney,

1051
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: who you like? Yep? Jenshaw obviously not okay? And Mary

1052
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: left the show, but she's filming for the new season coming.

1053
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: Who won the episode? To you? And who lost? Oh? God?

1054
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: Who won? Yeah? Good? I think Whitney and Heather one

1055
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: from me. Whitney was honest about her situation. She's she's

1056
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: the one who is still together with the guy, which

1057
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: in most lifetimes would never happen. So she won and

1058
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: she should go reapply to Mormonism if she wants to.

1059
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: And I think I think Jen lost. Yeah. I don't

1060
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: think Jen was likable. And I met her. I told

1061
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: you I don't think she was likable. I don't want

1062
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I think she was. I think she was. She is obnoxious,

1063
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: but I think she was trying too hard, and it

1064
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: just didn't. She could have been funny with it and

1065
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: did fifty percent and I would have liked her, but

1066
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: she just did too much. All right, let's let's talk

1067
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: about the masks. Singer. Um, I think you're great. I

1068
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: think you're great. I think it's great. I think like

1069
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: it's larger than life, Isn't it like Fox's number one

1070
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: primetime show. It's like a major fucking show. It's it's

1071
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: done very well. I'm so freaking grateful obviously to have

1072
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: work in this business at any point, but still a

1073
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: major work. It took a major show and you're a

1074
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: major part of it. They asked me to do it,

1075
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: and I took a couple of the lessons, but being

1076
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: in a mask didn't seem like the best use for me.

1077
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: And going back and forth to La and years ago

1078
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I did Dancing with the Stars, and it's just like

1079
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: sometimes say yes to something and it's going to grind

1080
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: your body. Oh, I would have loved it. If you

1081
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: were on, I would have loved it. But but you

1082
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: love it? And how many seasons have you been doing it?

1083
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: We're on. We did season nine seasons already. Did you

1084
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: think it was going to be a joke. The first

1085
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: you won the first season, I was I was when

1086
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: my agent first called, He's like, I'm turning this down,

1087
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, this actually checks boxes being

1088
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: weird celebrity also like a who is it kind of

1089
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: a thing. I go, I think this might work, and

1090
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: then I didn't know he turned it down behind my back.

1091
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: But then they came back and he's like, ah, you

1092
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: made another offer. So then I was like, let me

1093
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: do what. I kind of dig it and it worked. Amazing.

1094
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: What you're doing great, and I'm you should be grateful

1095
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: with the crazy career that you've had from New Year's

1096
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: Eve with Ryan Seacrest to The View to The View

1097
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: to the View to being like known as a sex

1098
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: symbol only and now being married to someone who's also

1099
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: interesting and being funny, and like, You've had many lives

1100
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: and they've all been good and they've evolved, your successful

1101
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: radio show like you you Don't Stop You Hustle. I

1102
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: definitely do. You know it's the single mom worries inside

1103
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: of me when I was single and had to raise Evan,

1104
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, with all of his issues, it was just

1105
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of like I need to stay afloat and then

1106
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: I need to be here as long as possible for him. Jenny,

1107
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: we may have to do this again. I mean, I

1108
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: found this to me. I'm talking to you. I can't

1109
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: tell you so thank you. The best time ever. Will

1110
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: you please come back another time? Like there's let's do it.

1111
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: It's like liberating and it's just like dynamics. I don't know.

1112
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: I love just these people. This is insane, all right.

1113
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: I love you, I always have like you. I love

1114
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: you too. I love you. I respect the hell out

1115
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: of you. Bethany. Likewise, thank you so much for doing this.

1116
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. H