1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Can't find AM sixty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: The John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John Colbelt. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: John back with us on Monday. So the latest now 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: on the effort to buy some in Sacramento by many 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: in Sacramento, in fact, to reimagine Pacific Palisades before we 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: start moving shovels, moving earth and putting sticks in the ground. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: And a lot of people are really concerned about the 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Senate bill Center Bill five forty nine. The author of 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the bill, Senator Allen said in a statement that it 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: would be best to pause it, given all the feedback, 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: and take the time to quote get it right. Jamie 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Page writes for the Westside Current Westside Current dot com. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: She's been following all of this. Jamie, thanks for spending 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: time with us. If he's pausing on legislation for a year, 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: that does not bode well for the people want to 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: be done or far along with being done and getting 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: their house back a year from now. 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: I'm not sure they need this committee to move forward. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: In fact, I think most people think this committee or 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: this bill which would form the committee, would get in 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: its own way. That's been a local pushback with this bill. 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: So Jessica Rodgers is president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: She's been on on record is saying, look, we don't 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: want new zoning. We don't want to reimagine Pacific Palisades. 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: This is our home, These are our homes, this is 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: our community. All we want to do is go back 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: to the way it was before the terrible fire in January. 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: What is wrong with just doing that? Just leave it 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: alone and let people rebuild what was there. 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the common sentiment. I don't think 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: I know among the most residents. And just to take 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: a few steps back. I talked to Senator Allen. When 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 3: folks got word of this bill, they got word of 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: it through Councilwoman Tracy Park. She's the local city council 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: woman who represents the area. She had sent out an 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: email blast to constituents saying, I don't know if you've 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: heard about this bill, but they didn't ask local representatives, 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: including myself, anything about it, and that's not how we 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: do things here. When I talked to the Senator Allen, 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: he had said, you know, we pushed this bill through quickly, 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: because we just wanted to get a framework in and 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: then work as we go. Well, as you know, in 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, it just doesn't work that way. Most of 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: the time. We get in our own way of doing things. 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't even gotten in a building permits 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: out to a majority of the folks, and we're talking 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: about zoning and putting different. 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: Rules in place before that. 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: And I think that's the common sentiment. We haven't even 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: got to step two yet, and they're on step ten. 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: You talked to real estate agents, realtors, people that sold 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: many of the people that lived there their homes, and 54 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: they are I mean almost in unison. Their opinion is 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: not optimistic. They're saying that this will never be the same. 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: And my clients have moved, They've purchased homes in Orange County, 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: they purchased homes in other parts of Los Angeles, and 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, really, no, they don't have the time. They're 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: at different parts of their career, different points in their career. 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: So I guess the idea of it ever going back 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: to the way it was in January, do you think 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: that's even imaginable. 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: I think the other side of the stories, people hope 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: and are hoping for that too, right. I've talked to 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: realtors and people who own land. There's so many more 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: issues in the palisade than in most places. I live 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: in the Woolsey rebuild area, where you still see a 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: few RVs and empty lots where they haven't had been 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: able to rebuild. But in the case over here, they 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: had a few they were able to sue to make 71 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: themselves whole of palisades. We some figured out how that 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: fire started in the first place. And then seventy percent 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: of the residents are under insured or not insured. And 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: then you have these lawmakers who are coming up with 75 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: SB five forty nine without even kind of having it 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: fully baked before it goes before the constituents. And I 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: think that's what's happening here is is there's just so 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: many things happening, and what the residents are saying is 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: can we please just all move forward in the way 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: that we're supposed to, And that's you know, going through 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: go ahead. 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: No No, you said that you had spoken with Center 83 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: do Allen a number of times on this. I'm wondering 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: if you got a sense because I know these people. 85 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I know these Democrats and Sacramento like the back of 86 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: my hand when it comes to these opportunities. And I'm curious, 87 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: do you get a sense that SB five four nine 88 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: was designed for the Pacific Palisades issue or was always 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: kind of on the back burner somewhere and just looking 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: for an opportunity to have so have a problem to 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: put the solution to, because they're always looking in Sacramento 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: for opportunities to you know, to take I want to say, 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: take advantage of. But where there are opportunities to rezone 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: areas and put in low cost, low income housing, they 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: always want to do that. So did you get a 96 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: sense that this was always kind of an idea that 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: was floating out there. 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: I actually had heard I've heard from multiple sources that 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: this bill actually came from our county Supervisor, Lindsay Horvath. 100 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: And if you put that question with her name, absolutely, 101 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: That's why I think a lot of people are fearful 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: of this is because she would She has repeatedly have 103 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: history of doing maneuvers. 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: Quite like this. 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: So there's not a lot of public trust out there 106 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: when it comes to But yes, I mean, your Senator 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: Wiener has a bill out there that wants to remove, 108 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: you know, voices of local municipalities when it comes to 109 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: high transit areas. And so there's that fear that possibly 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: he's looking at the palisades in Brentwood as well. 111 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Senator Wiener is a leader in Sacramento on 112 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: this issue of effectively and it's I mean, obviously there's 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: two schools of thought. But for homeowners and the homeowners 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: in Pacific Palace Ades, they would characterize it as belligerent, 115 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: like these policies are belligerent to private home ownership and 116 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: having zones of family homes like in the Pacific Power Stades. 117 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: I appreciate the update. We got to go. It's always 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: good to get an update from you, and we appreciate 119 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: you spending time on this. Jamie page is with Westside 120 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Current dot Com. Westside Current dot Com covering this better 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: than anybody else in Los Angeles. Louke Penrose sitting here 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere 123 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Now to the KFI twenty four 124 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: hour newsroom. Depvermark has the latest. Here is the latest. 125 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 6: The La County Sheriff's Department has lost three deputies in 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 6: an explosion and the Riverside County Sheriff's Departments's deputies have 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 6: arrested a guy caught with dozens of illegal guns, AMMO, 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 6: and bomb making materials. We'll have more at the bottom 129 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 6: of the hour from the Southern California Toyota Dealer Traffic Center. 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 6: Save more at the pump with Toyota's full line of 131 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 6: a fuel efficient vehicles. Stall on the ninety one in 132 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 6: Anaheim Hills on. 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 7: The ninety one eastbound right at Imperial Highway, going to 134 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 7: be in the second lane from your left of the 135 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: main lines, and it's already a slow ride from the 136 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 7: fifty seven. Then on the ninety one to westbound at 137 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 7: Yorba Linda Boulevard, got another disabled vehicle in that center 138 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 7: divider area in Diamond Bar sixty eastbound right at the 139 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 7: Diamond Bar Boulevard off ramp. Gotta stall making its way 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 7: over to the right shoulder. In Norwalk on the five 141 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 7: north right at Rosecrant Avenue, we've got that crash clearing 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 7: from the center divider area. And on the one oh 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 7: five east at Lakewood Boulevard, got a stall going to 144 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 7: be blocking the carve pool lane. With Southern California's most 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 7: accurate traffic reports. I'm Jenny Harmon. 146 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: You'd probably think you're ROK is safe, that it's growing, 147 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: that it'll be enough for your retirement, But what if 148 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: it's not. Here's the truth. Your four oh one k 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: is never designed to make you wealthy. It was built 150 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: to shift risk from corporations to you, leaving your money 151 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: exposed to Marko. 152 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 153 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: six forty. 154 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose Info. John Cobelt on kf I AM six 155 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: forty talking about the shelving if you will, of Senate 156 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Bill five forty nine to bring you up the speed. 157 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: If you've not heard this, there is a piece of 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: legislation authored by Senator Ben Allen working its way through 159 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Sacramento to effectively bring low income housing to the Pacific Palisades. 160 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: A various array of programs and the government policy that 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: would either use government money your tax dollars to buy 162 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: up land that's not going to be built upon, or 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: to take control of land. You just heard from Jamie 164 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: Page at Westside Current dot com that only thirty percent 165 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: a third of the homeowners were fully insured. So you 166 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: have seventy percent that are either underinsured, which means they 167 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: would have to come up with the difference to put 168 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: their house back on the lot, or had no insurance. 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: So this is an opportunity for government to step in 170 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and get some pretty cheap land and do what Democrats 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: always want to do, and that is turned everything into 172 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the projects. But of course Democrats don't understand that Pacific 173 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: palisades is elite real estate. There are good parts of town, 174 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: and there are medium parts of town, and there are 175 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: bad parts of town. Now, every bad part of town 176 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,119 Speaker 1: has the capacity to be a good part of town. 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: But in real estate, location is everything. So even a 178 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: good part of town that looks at a canyon is 179 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: not going to be a good part of town that 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: looks at the Pacific on a palisade. So that is 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: always going to be valuable land until you zone it 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: with communities and individuals who could never otherwise afford to 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: be there, which brings down the value of the real estate. 184 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's just a reality. And I don't know why 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: we have to whisper that reality. We all live in 186 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: the same reality. I don't know where you grew up, 187 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: but I didn't grow up in a great part of town. 188 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: And my mother always talked about the rich people that 189 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: live up there. Right, there's always somebody with more money 190 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: than you, And that's okay. It doesn't mean it's unsafe. 191 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: It's just that there are just some places that are 192 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: nicer than others, and Los Angeles is no different than 193 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: any other corner of America. And also, if that's what 194 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: you want, and a lot of people do have those desires, 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: those are motivating factors. I know a huge real estate 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: developer who's now retired and just does a podcast. But 197 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: he came to California out of college and had no direction, 198 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: no skills, didn't know what he wanted to do. And 199 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: the first thing that he did was effectively walk up 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: to and interview somebody with a great, big house and said, 201 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I want to end up like you. What do you do? 202 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: How do I get that like? That was his motivating factor, 203 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: and he is now a retired individual, him and his 204 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: wife one of the most successful lenders in southern California. 205 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: But what was motivating him the way he grew up 206 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: was to live in a great, big house on the hill. 207 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: So for many people, that's a motivating factor for hard 208 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: work and success. That's okay, nothing wrong with that. Don't forget. 209 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: We are the society that invented the television program Lifestyles 210 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: of the rich and famous. We are the culture that 211 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: watches the Kardashians. We are the I mean HGTV and 212 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: House Hunters and all these programs on television. This is 213 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: all part of the Southern California lifestyle. And it's wonderful, right. 214 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: It's it's okay to enjoy beautiful homes, beautiful properties, and 215 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Pacific Palisades is emblematic of that. So why would we 216 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: want to ruin that by incorporating There are no programs 217 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: on HGTV with any ratings called lifestyle of the low 218 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: income housing projects doesn't exist for a reason, all right. So, 219 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: but the good news is for now, Senate Bill five p. 220 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Forty nine has been shelved, I guess for a year. 221 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: Senator Allen sending out a statement, Sandy appreciates the feedback 222 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: and that it would be best for us to pause 223 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: the bill until next year to give us more time 224 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: to see if we can get it right. 225 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 7: Just give us our homes back and protect us from fire. 226 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: As Matthew A. Cedarford from Fox eleven followed, by Jessica Rodgers. 227 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: She's president of the Pacific Palisades Resident Association. We'll see 228 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: where it goes. I don't like the phrase get it right. 229 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: That suggests to me that the Senator still wants to 230 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: be in your business. If you are a homeowner or 231 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: had a home in the Pacific Palace Ades, or have 232 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: any interest or investment in this corner of Los Angeles, 233 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: then that the Senator wants to quote get it right 234 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: means he wants to continue to engage with you and 235 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: continue to be up in your business. And really, there 236 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: is no good that can come from that. I have 237 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: never seen a piece of Democrat legislation that is out 238 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: of Sacramento signed into law that has made the housing 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: business better, that has made housing more affordable. I mean, 240 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: you don't have to look much further than rent control. 241 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Rent control has been devastating to renters, causing rents to 242 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: go up, causing people to take rental housing out of 243 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: the cycle. The cost to build houses cause people to 244 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: keep houses that they don't need. There are people that 245 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: are empty nesters sitting in a five bedroom house because 246 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: they can't afford to pay the new property taxes and 247 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: sell the house and buy themselves a two bedroom condo 248 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: and live like empty nesters, which would open up a 249 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: five bedroom house from somebody that has a two bedroom 250 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: house that wants to expand their family. Like housing. The 251 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: marketplace drives housing, and it makes sense. And when Democrats 252 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: get involved, they've ruined the cycle. And they all say 253 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. We're trying to address the housing crisis. Loo, 254 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: We're trying to address the housing. The housing crisis is 255 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: pretty easy to solve. Get government out of the market. 256 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't help. It tries to help, it doesn't. It 257 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: make matters worse. And here, look, I mean, he says 258 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: that he's gonna put it on the shelf. Senator Ben 259 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Allen says he's gonna put the issue of getting involved 260 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: of rezoning Pacific Palace aids, having the government buy up 261 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: land and throw in the projects next to one point 262 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: six million dollar houses. That's gonna be great. That's gonna 263 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: look great. Yeah, I guarantee you the open houses are 264 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna be wonderful. When you see this great, big apartment 265 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: building going up next to you know, your house with 266 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the backyard that overlooks the Pacific Ocean, that's really gonna 267 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: get him rolling up on a Saturday afternoon waving a 268 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: deposit check. Now, look, they're gonna ruin it, and that 269 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: he wants to shelve it for a year and then 270 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: revisit it. Number one should tell you that they have 271 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: there is no fire under their feet, there is no 272 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: wind at their back to get this rebuilt, and they 273 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: know it. Look if the reporters who are reporting from 274 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Westside current dot com know that only thirty percent of 275 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: the people that had homes there could afford, are insured, 276 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: have the capital and the means to rebuild whether they 277 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: want to or not as a separate story altogether, then 278 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: the lawmakers are well aware that there's land and opportunity 279 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and it is their goal. Democrats don't change when it 280 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: comes to these issues. It is their goal to get 281 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: more people out of single family homes and to get 282 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: more multifamily housing with low income housing components in these areas. 283 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: They just don't like the fact that you have your 284 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: own backyard and they never have. Lou Penrose sitting here 285 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere 286 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: on the IHAT Radio app. 287 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AI. 288 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt today. Good to have 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: you along with us. You could not pick up your 290 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: phone today and not see a Coldplay report a Coldplay 291 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: concert revisit somebody commenting in on it, the live footage 292 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: itself from the apparently hundreds of people that have video 293 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: of this, or all the jokes. The jokes have been 294 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: pretty good. Stub Hub is a reporting that they have 295 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: a Coldplay concert tickets for you and your coworker. Peloton 296 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: is doing a Coldplay ride. Let's see here. Coldplay has 297 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: not released a single in years, but last night I 298 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: created two singles. So it goes on. But you have 299 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: got to have heard the story by now that the 300 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: CEO of a billion dollar tech company called Astronomer was 301 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: at the Coldplay concert in Massachusetts at the Tillette Stadium 302 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: and he was caught on the kissing can. 303 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: Now. 304 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: You see this at Dodger Games, Angel Games, right at 305 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: some point the JumboTron is up there and they go 306 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: into the stands to catch people waving, and sometimes they 307 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: do it to catch people kissing. This wasn't officially a 308 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: kiss cam, but it was a cam decided to go 309 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: around and catch couples in the audience, and they found 310 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: one Andy Byron, who was the CEO, and he was 311 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: canoodling with the other girl. And that's Kristin Cabot, but 312 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: she's the HR chief of the same company. But they're 313 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: not married to each other. So this is now all 314 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: the controversy. Attorney lu Shapiro is with us. Oh my goodness. 315 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: This is like, this is as American as a get 316 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: right is. This is why we have magazines at the 317 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: checkout counter at grocery stores. This is US Weekly and 318 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: People magazines. Is all that combined into one. You got 319 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: the CEO of a company, you got the h R girl, 320 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: and they're both married and they get caught the kiss 321 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: cam at a Coldplay concert. 322 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everybody is enjoying us and getting that 323 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: chuckle that you're describing. With exception to Andy Byron himself, 324 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: I don't think he's having a good weekend. 325 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: No, not at all. But and it's it's still questionable 326 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: whether or not it was his his comment. There was 327 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: a statement put out. I think he has since distanced 328 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: himself from the statement. I don't know if that means 329 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: it was not, if it was not him, or it 330 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: was just inaccurate, But he did put out a statement 331 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: and you know, apology basically talked about how you know, 332 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: this was a private moment. He did suggest, however, that 333 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: somehow the concert and maybe the band is has a 334 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: little bit of fault for putting the camera on them. 335 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: That is he gonna get any play out of that. 336 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's definitely not the right pr move on that. 337 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: Shifting the blame to somebody else's pointing fingers, historically has 338 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: never proven to be very helpful to someone. If anything, 339 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: it's better to either say I apologize for what we've 340 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: seen and will be working on it internally, or to 341 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: say nothing at all. But shifting the blame only makes 342 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: things worse. 343 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: In general, we see that the HR person Kristen Cabot, 344 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: her name has been removed from the website, and Astronomer 345 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: is a publicly traded company so they have a board 346 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: of directors, so it remains to be seen what happens 347 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: here with respect to you know, these careers. But her 348 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: name has been taken off the website. The what Andy 349 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Byron's wife on her social media presence has changed her 350 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: last name and removed her Instagram account. So that's all 351 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: we know so far. Get from a corporate sense, like 352 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: what what does this mean? What we can what can 353 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: we expect to play out? 354 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: Well? 355 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: Will does he have to resign? 356 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: That's a very good question. So here's the quantity of 357 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: the company is in right now. The HR person is able, 358 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 4: So she's off the website. They'll find somebody else, and 359 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: they have to because the HR person is supposed to 360 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 4: be the one that is basically the babysitter of the 361 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: company right making sure that people aren't having inappropriate relationships 362 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: with coworkers, the subordinates and so forth. And here she 363 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 4: is basically leading the charge in what you're not supposed 364 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: to do under the HR umbrella. So she's done. The 365 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 4: question is when does that lead the CEO? And if 366 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: you look at his bio and what he has brought 367 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: to the company, the board is going to be very 368 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: conflicted here because this is a person who's leading a 369 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: company worth one point three billion dollars and this guy 370 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: is those stranger to the field. He's led several leadership 371 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: roles before coming to this company, and he's got a 372 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: networth himself of about twenty to seventy million dollars. So 373 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: this is no small potato. They are not many of 374 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: people like this around that have his experience, intelligence, and ingenuity. 375 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: So I don't think it's going to be a clear 376 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: cut you're gone. I think what they're going to try 377 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: to do is to work out some sort of like 378 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: a rehabilitative approach or response where he's going to be 379 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: checking into a program of some sort or agreeing to 380 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: go to certain counseling or therapy and maybe maybe take 381 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: a sabbatical or some sort of a short term suspension 382 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 4: in order to do that introspection. But that's where I 383 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: see this going. I don't think he's just gone. In 384 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: the totality of this, what. 385 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: About his wife? There has been chatter, a more than chatter. 386 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: There's been nothing but social media conversation about all of 387 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: this from people that claim to know personally and people 388 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: that I'm sure fake it. But there is the talk of, well, look, 389 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: if she wishes to get full custody and all the 390 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: money that goes along with that and care, she probably will. 391 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: But also there is this idea of being taken by 392 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: surprise and being embarrassed publicly, and that does bring about 393 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: a claim for emotional distress? Does this fit that definition? 394 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 4: The embarrassment that she's suffered and shock is probably immeasurable. 395 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: Everyone has to feel for her. So the issue is 396 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: what is she going to do next. There's two ways 397 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: of approaching this. One is they can try to repair 398 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: this marriage and go to counseling, which many people do. 399 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: This is not the first time that someone has had 400 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: an extra marital affair, so it may be one of 401 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: the first times the CEOs caught on the kiss cam 402 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: doing it. Yeah, but this ended up itself happens so, 403 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: and the alternative is if she wants to seek a 404 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: divorce and gore separate ways. The third option, I don't 405 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: see any super intentional affliction emotional disturce that we don't 406 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: see the family law context. That kind of funds or 407 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: separation or punishment so to speak, will be certainly sought 408 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 4: out within the context of the family law proceedings. 409 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Do you think there will be any I don't know, 410 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: paring down of the kiss cam thing. Do you think 411 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: this will cause, you know, stadiums and auditoriums to maybe 412 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: second get I mean, there's been a lot of fun 413 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: with this, but and I agree with you the idea 414 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: of shifting the blame onto coldplay is absurd, But he 415 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: attempted to do it, So I'm wondering if maybe we 416 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: will see that go away for fear of this becoming 417 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, there has not been any negative blowback onto 418 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Coldplay yet. There's been a bit though, and people say like, oh, 419 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: the worst part is that he was at a Coldplay concert. 420 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so, I'm wondering if maybe, you know, people 421 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: might think this might not be a good idea after all. 422 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: Now, I think the kiss cam is going to be 423 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: alive and well after this. Most people looking at this 424 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: are going to take the position that this was no 425 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: fault of kiss Cam. It's the assumption of risk that 426 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 4: people take when they're married and hugging and kissing somebody 427 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: in public. Right, It's like you should have known better. 428 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: So for kiss cam to be punished or extinct as 429 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: a result, I don't think that's likely on this one. 430 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Attorney lu Shapiro, thanks so much. I appreciate you. You're 431 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: busy today. A lot of people are talking about this. 432 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Everybody's talking out at this. As I said, I got 433 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: up this morning working with Ray to put together all 434 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: the news that's happening in Los Angeles. There was an 435 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: explosion at seven thirty at the Sheriff's training facility of 436 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: the terrible loss of life. There three deputies, and I'm 437 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: trying to get more information and I can't get past 438 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: somebody else posting this kiss cam video of this guy, 439 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: the CEO at the Coldplay concert. So it is definitely 440 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: being talked about, all right, So coming up after the 441 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: top of the hour, we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh. 442 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: You hear her every Sunday at seven here on KFI 443 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: AM six forty. Because there is other layers to this, right, 444 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there is the CEO and the HR director 445 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden now they find themselves in 446 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: a romantic relationship. So does this now give pause to 447 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: everybody in corporate relationships to say, hey, make sure there 448 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: is clear delineation and separation because you people work close together, 449 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: you work eight hour days. There's this term out there 450 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: called my work wife. Maybe that's not a good idea 451 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: to use that kind of language anymore. On given this story, 452 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk with doctor Wendy Walsh. Coming up following the 453 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: news at three o'clock. Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt 454 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 455 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 456 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: sixty The. 457 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: John Cobalt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for John this afternoon, 458 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. The two individuals in this 459 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: cold play kiss cam controversy have been placed on administrative 460 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: leave from the company. According to the website, the company 461 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: is Astronomer. He's not an astronomer. The company's name is 462 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: Astronomer and it's a software development company. Hi, it's a 463 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: high tech company, one point three billion dollar tech company. 464 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: And he's the CEO and she was the hr person. 465 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: And they were at the concert and they're going around 466 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: the stadium and the two of them are canodling. I 467 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: guess it is the Is that the best way to 468 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: put it. That's a canoodle. I mean they weren't making out, 469 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: but they were. She he was behind her, and she 470 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: was in front of him, and he had heard his 471 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: arms wrapped completely around her. And you'll see it for yourself. 472 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: It's impossible. I challenge you to open your phone and 473 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: not see a photograph of this. What's really fun is 474 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: once they're busted, like they're the technique, I mean, the 475 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: solution doesn't work at all. He literally and he's he's 476 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: a looks like a tall drink of water. I would 477 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: say he's probably six foot six to one. And they're 478 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: like out of the out of the seats, literally up 479 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: against the railing of whatever level they are at this 480 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: concert venue at the Gillette Staium I've never been, and 481 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: so like they're up against the railing and he just 482 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: basically sinks down to the ground, so he's out of 483 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: the camera shot, and she covers her face with both 484 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: hands and then turns around, but she doesn't really move. 485 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: So it probably would have passed and nobody would have 486 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: noticed if it were not for their reaction of being 487 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: on the camera. Like if they just waved, he just 488 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: dropped his hands and waved, nobody would have filmed it. 489 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: Nobody would have noticed. But that was the problem, is 490 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: that the reaction was so dramatic and jarring that Coldplay 491 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: singer Chris Martin couldn't help himself but say, like, oh god, 492 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: what's that all about. Either they're having an affair or 493 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: they're really shy, and the rest is history unbelievable. Coming up, 494 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Dr Wendy Walsh. You hear Dr Wendy 495 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Walsh every Sunday at seven here on KFIM six forty 496 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: will get her take on this. And there is another 497 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: angle to this that I think is worthy of exploration, 498 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: and that is I've seen this happen not in my life, 499 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: but I have seen this happen in the corporate culture. 500 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: I certainly have seen this happen in politics, where I 501 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: spent fifteen years of my life. I've seen this and 502 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for it. I'm not apologizing for 503 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: the behavior. He got busted. They got busted. It happens. 504 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Most people actually don't get busted. It goes on more 505 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: often than you think. And you know exactly what I'm 506 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: talking about. You've seen it at your office. Everyone has 507 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: had one of these experiences of observing it or suspecting 508 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: it and then years later finding out that they got married. 509 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I knew they were close. Like these 510 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: are the kinds of things that happen the CEO, even 511 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: if the CEO is a genius, an electrical engineering genius. 512 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: Right when you become CEO an organization, your job is 513 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: not to write code or to be creative. Your job 514 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: is to oversee the company and to manage the creative people. 515 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: That you oversee, which means the operations guy is not 516 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: really your second in command, your chief operating officer. You 517 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: wish you could spend more time with him, but you don't. 518 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: You spend most of your time with your HR person 519 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: because that's the huge time suck in any organization, including 520 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: the one that I current work for. Right. I mean, 521 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: you want to spend time with your CFO, but you 522 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: only do that out of need if there's problems before 523 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: board meetings. No, the CEO has got to spend a 524 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of time with human resources. That's where you have 525 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: legal exposure constantly, and often the human resources person is 526 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: a woman. Just seems to be the way it goes. 527 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: So if you're constantly in a meeting and constantly troubleshooting 528 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: and problem solving and coming up with creative problem solving, 529 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, ideas, with your right hand man who is 530 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: a woman and comma, you're spending eight hours a day, 531 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: nine hours a day, ten hours a day, and maybe 532 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: forty hours a week with this person who you rely 533 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: on to solve the real problems in any huge organization, 534 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: which are human resources right in the legal framework and 535 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: all the legal loopholes and everything that people are trying 536 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to claim. They're constantly trying to claim, Oh, he sexually 537 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: harassed me, she sexually harassed me. The sexual harassment. I 538 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: don't like the joke that they told. And you're CEO 539 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: of the company, You're trying to run a company, and 540 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: there's this all the childishness going on, and then you've 541 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: got to call the HR girl to come in again. 542 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Explain to me where we are, what does the law say, 543 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Get a hold of our attorney to find out what 544 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: the you know, the labor attorney, what she has to 545 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: say about it. I have seen this in organizations, and 546 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the human condition is what it is. And when people 547 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: start relying on each other and having each other solve, 548 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: having people solve each other's problems in the workplace, big problems, 549 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, problems that come attached to zero's. If that 550 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: person solves your problems and she's the HR person, you 551 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: are just going to start feeling very indebted to that person, 552 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: and that indebtedness becomes a fondness, and then that fondness 553 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: becomes romantic and the next thing you know, you're at 554 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: a Coldplay concert and everybody's looking at you. So, as 555 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: I said, I've seen this happen. We'll talk with doctor 556 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Wendy Walsh about it coming up following the news at three. 557 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: You know who's an expert at getting on the camera 558 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: regardless of the venue. My twelve year old son. My 559 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: twelve year old son always he has an unblemished record, 560 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent record when he is at a stadium. 561 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: He at the at Staples Center, he's there, he's got 562 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: some kind of a dance or something. He knows how 563 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: to do it. He has the right moves and he 564 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: knows where to go in the aisle to do his 565 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: dance to wind up on the big jumbo tron at 566 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Staples Center. Same thing just happened at the Angel Stadium 567 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: in Anaheim. Went to go I think it was I 568 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: got tickets for Father's Day from the boys, so I 569 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: have three sons and the four of us went and 570 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: it came time for you know, the camera to go 571 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: around the stadium and the kiss camera. They don't have 572 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a kiss camera there. It's just a camera to wave 573 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: your hat. And he knew it was the right time, 574 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: and he knew where to go. Got like eque distant 575 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: in the aisle, like in the middle of the aisle, 576 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: but halfway you know, up the stairs to the level 577 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: and did his little dance and wouldn't you know what, 578 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: he was up on the camera. So there are there 579 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: are ways to get on that jumbocam when you want 580 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: to be on it, when you don't want to be 581 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: on it, don't be canodling with the HR Lady Lou 582 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Penrose sitting here with John Cobel on KFI AM six 583 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: forty and live on the iHeartRadio app. 584 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: You've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast, you 585 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 586 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 587 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.