WEBVTT - iHeartRadio Host Media Personality "Charlamagne Tha God" Talks AI Investment

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Fans of the popular

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<v Speaker 1>morning radio show The Breakfast Club know that co host

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard McKelvie, better known as Charlemaine the God Like sand

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<v Speaker 1>dip his toes into various sectors, whether that's writing a

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times bestseller or serving as ambassador for the

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<v Speaker 1>Food Bank for New York City. Well, now he has

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<v Speaker 1>expanded to artificial intelligence by investing in AI company meet Kai,

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<v Speaker 1>where he will also be a strategic advisor to help

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<v Speaker 1>the company drive growth and engagement for content creation. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pleased to say here in studio for more on this

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<v Speaker 1>is TV and radio personality Charlaine the God and Peter

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<v Speaker 1>John Alexander, chief business officer of meet Kai.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome, gentlemen, thank you for having us us.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to start with you, Charlemaine, because me Kai

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<v Speaker 1>bills itself as an immersive AI company. What have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen from your perch in traditional media in radio that

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<v Speaker 1>gets you excited about offering your content on meat Kai's

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<v Speaker 1>virtual world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for me, I felt like, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>the next level of what the the interview experience will

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<v Speaker 3>be like, you know, like right now somebody's watching this

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<v Speaker 3>on television, But imagine if you could actually be in

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<v Speaker 3>the room, you know, as a part of a VR

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<v Speaker 3>experience as where you know, having this conversation or even

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with Breakfast Club, we've been around for almost

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen years. So when you think about the catalog of

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<v Speaker 3>back interviews that people like, whether it's the Soldier Boy,

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<v Speaker 3>a Birdman, or whatever it is, any of those conversations,

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<v Speaker 3>you can put yourself in the room of those conversations

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<v Speaker 3>and I just feel like, you know, that's that's where

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<v Speaker 3>social media is going to have that virtual reality experience

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<v Speaker 3>of actually being next to the person that you're watching

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<v Speaker 3>instead of just watching them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's a whole new way of experiencing it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter John, if this is the metaverse, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what charl Maynett was describing, how is it similar

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<v Speaker 1>to or different than what Mark Zuckerberg has been building

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<v Speaker 1>out and frankly not making a lot of money on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think meta And you know what Mark has been

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on the hardware aspect, which is extremely difficult, and

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<v Speaker 2>what they've been able to accomplish since they've started is

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<v Speaker 2>truly groundbreaking. With Oculus, Apple obviously stepped into the ring

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and to Charlotte's point, we've been really focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on software and how that changes. When we met about

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, we talked about what the future of

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<v Speaker 2>social entertainment is and we believe this is one aspect

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<v Speaker 2>and using our immersive platform as well as our intelligence platform,

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<v Speaker 2>the convergence of AI and these immersive experiences is what

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<v Speaker 2>that future will be.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I like what Charlie Mooreen was talking about

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<v Speaker 4>with regards to maybe being kind of like the fly

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<v Speaker 4>on the wall as he's doing these interviews and stuff here,

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<v Speaker 4>But explain to me as a user how I would access.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I gonna need like a VR type of device

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<v Speaker 4>or is this something that can maybe be done just

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<v Speaker 4>on a regular phone or a regular computer screen.

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<v Speaker 2>So great question. What's great about our platform and what

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<v Speaker 2>we've really focused on is mass user adoption, So being

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<v Speaker 2>able to be browser in the browser, being device agnostics,

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<v Speaker 2>so being on your phone, being on your computer, being

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<v Speaker 2>on your tablet, being in a VR headset, working anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>is what matters. So if you can bring the best

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<v Speaker 2>in class experience with unbelieve visual fidelity and anywhere, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the most people there to experience what

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to build.

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<v Speaker 4>So charlet Manel is something like this though, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>let's just use your show as an example. Is this

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<v Speaker 4>like the kind of thing where like I would even

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<v Speaker 4>be able as a user maybe even ask a question

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<v Speaker 4>or somehow interact with either you or your guests while

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing the interview or is that not how it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, because it's like you know, when you see the

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<v Speaker 3>live streams that people have now, like BREAKFASCE, Club Goals

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<v Speaker 3>Live now, like we'll go live on YouTube or Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>live and you're able to ask those same type of

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<v Speaker 3>questions there. So it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is your first foray into AI. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what kind of audiences you think being accessible on

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<v Speaker 1>meet Kai will allow you to spread your brand or

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<v Speaker 1>allow your brand to reach out to that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>already through your syndicated radio show.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think nowadays, you know, remember back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>they would say if you build it, you know they

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<v Speaker 3>will come. Nowadays, you have to meet people where they are,

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's going to be in these spaces anyway, so

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<v Speaker 3>we might as well meet them where they are not and.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, part of the value proposition of someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Charlottage involved in meek Kai is the kinds of creators

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<v Speaker 1>and influencers that he can bring to your platform. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you give me a better idea of what you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for from that end?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not only that and relationships, and we've talked a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about that, but the wealth of knowledge that he

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<v Speaker 2>has for being in this industry for decades and his

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<v Speaker 2>approach to what we're building is going to be instrumental

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<v Speaker 2>as it relates to our success. So we've talked a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about, you know, the people that he's interested in

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<v Speaker 2>bringing to the platform, and I can let him speak

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<v Speaker 2>to that, but we've worked with some really big names

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<v Speaker 2>right from the NBPA to BYD. There's new worlds coming

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<v Speaker 2>online that are focused solely on the consumer end, from

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit Pistons to the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida State, mixing AI and immersive for the future

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<v Speaker 2>of education. And then we also have as I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about that convergence is pure play AI that will power

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<v Speaker 2>these in immersive opportunities that Charlie was saying, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to someone regardless of they're human or not.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those platforms. That's really exciting. That's built off

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<v Speaker 2>of our ai is Ascari which goes live today, so

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<v Speaker 2>built on functionary and our family Donald's here at me.

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<v Speaker 4>Kay, So what are you looking to bring Charlotte Man

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<v Speaker 4>like when you talk about the types of additional guests

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<v Speaker 4>and just really the type of people that are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be platformed on.

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<v Speaker 3>This everything you know from from from podcasts to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>comedy shows. You know, the live podcast aspect is something

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<v Speaker 3>that really intrigues me because you know, we all tune

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<v Speaker 3>into our favorite podcast every week. And I have a

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<v Speaker 3>podcast network called The Black Effect Podcast Network. But imagine

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<v Speaker 3>if instead of just you know, watching it on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>you can be a partner, like you said, a fly

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<v Speaker 3>on the wall of the actual show every week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I'm all in on all this pot Did

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<v Speaker 4>you see the call your daddy girl got like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, are you ready to read a ship your contract?

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<v Speaker 3>Also to another good experiences is the audiobooks, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know we all like to listen to audiobooks nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>But imagine if you could just sit there and like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sit at the feet of your favorite author

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<v Speaker 3>they're actually performing their audiobook in front of you. I

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<v Speaker 3>just think that makes the whole experience, you know, of

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the audiobooks better.

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<v Speaker 4>I am curious how you and Peter John hooked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you approach him because of the product or did

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<v Speaker 4>he reach out to you because of your experience in

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<v Speaker 4>media and all the business ventures that you had.

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<v Speaker 3>Man some things that just god Like, I was in

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<v Speaker 3>we was in cans Can last year and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just sitting around at an.

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<v Speaker 4>iHeart party and you know, as one does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and him and James approached me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they told me about the AI thing, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just having a conversation about these visions that I've been

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<v Speaker 3>having about what I'm talking about now, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're already doing that. So it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a natural collaboration.

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<v Speaker 1>How much AI do you dobble in right now? Not much?

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<v Speaker 3>Chad GPT is about as far as I've been going.

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<v Speaker 3>And now meek Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of timeline, here John, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>looking at before we start to see Charmaine on meek

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<v Speaker 1>Kai's various platforms?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think very soon. What's special about our platform

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<v Speaker 2>and what we've been able to build is how fast

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<v Speaker 2>we come to market we're Traditionally, I think people approach

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<v Speaker 2>building these experiences as video games, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the right way to do it. We focus on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, using AI at every turn to make these

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<v Speaker 2>experiences fast and better in every way, and that allows

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<v Speaker 2>us to kind of have development times that are days

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<v Speaker 2>and weeks is supposed to months and years. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've been talking about the vision of what's

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<v Speaker 2>to come, and I think you'll see some exciting things

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<v Speaker 2>very soon.

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<v Speaker 4>This one final quick question, Charlottete, like when we talk

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<v Speaker 4>about like sort of the future of these shows here,

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<v Speaker 4>so do you see in a vision where maybe these

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<v Speaker 4>shows won't be just on radio or even on radio

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<v Speaker 4>at all or even on TV, that maybe they will

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<v Speaker 4>end up on sort of a meet Kai type of

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<v Speaker 4>platform just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They're that way now, Like none of these shows exist

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<v Speaker 3>in one space anymore. Like I said, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>build it. People aren't just going to come to you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to meet people where they are, so you

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<v Speaker 3>for example, Breakfast Club, we're on the radio, but we

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<v Speaker 3>also come out in the daily podcast every day, and

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<v Speaker 3>we also put out clips on social media and we're

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<v Speaker 3>on YouTube. So that's why we have the audience we have.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about, you know, eight million monthly listeners on

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<v Speaker 3>terrestrial radio, but then fifteen to twenty million downloads a

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<v Speaker 3>month on the podcast, then the YouTube, then the social media.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have to exist in all of these spaces

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<v Speaker 3>out there. You can't take one piece of content and

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<v Speaker 3>serve it twenty different places.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, and you got a lot of content. Have

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<v Speaker 4>you talked to Birdman lately?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, all right, let meave it there.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlemagne the God and Peter John Alexander. Charlemagne investing here

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<v Speaker 4>in me Kai a new a virtual world platform, if

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<v Speaker 4>you will. That maybe is the future of media, Scarlett.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we should look into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think our kids will look into this.