Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Fans of the popular
Speaker 1: morning radio show The Breakfast Club know that co host
Speaker 1: Leonard McKelvie, better known as Charlemaine the God Like sand
Speaker 1: dip his toes into various sectors, whether that's writing a
Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller or serving as ambassador for the
Speaker 1: Food Bank for New York City. Well, now he has
Speaker 1: expanded to artificial intelligence by investing in AI company meet Kai,
Speaker 1: where he will also be a strategic advisor to help
Speaker 1: the company drive growth and engagement for content creation. I'm
Speaker 1: pleased to say here in studio for more on this
Speaker 1: is TV and radio personality Charlaine the God and Peter
Speaker 1: John Alexander, chief business officer of meet Kai.
Speaker 2: Welcome, gentlemen, thank you for having us us.
Speaker 1: I got to start with you, Charlemaine, because me Kai
Speaker 1: bills itself as an immersive AI company. What have you
Speaker 1: seen from your perch in traditional media in radio that
Speaker 1: gets you excited about offering your content on meat Kai's
Speaker 1: virtual world.
Speaker 3: Well, for me, I felt like, you know, it was
Speaker 3: the next level of what the the interview experience will
Speaker 3: be like, you know, like right now somebody's watching this
Speaker 3: on television, But imagine if you could actually be in
Speaker 3: the room, you know, as a part of a VR
Speaker 3: experience as where you know, having this conversation or even
Speaker 3: you know, with Breakfast Club, we've been around for almost
Speaker 3: fifteen years. So when you think about the catalog of
Speaker 3: back interviews that people like, whether it's the Soldier Boy,
Speaker 3: a Birdman, or whatever it is, any of those conversations,
Speaker 3: you can put yourself in the room of those conversations
Speaker 3: and I just feel like, you know, that's that's where
Speaker 3: social media is going to have that virtual reality experience
Speaker 3: of actually being next to the person that you're watching
Speaker 3: instead of just watching them.
Speaker 1: Right, It's a whole new way of experiencing it. So,
Speaker 1: Peter John, if this is the metaverse, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of what charl Maynett was describing, how is it similar
Speaker 1: to or different than what Mark Zuckerberg has been building
Speaker 1: out and frankly not making a lot of money on.
Speaker 2: I think meta And you know what Mark has been
Speaker 2: focusing on the hardware aspect, which is extremely difficult, and
Speaker 2: what they've been able to accomplish since they've started is
Speaker 2: truly groundbreaking. With Oculus, Apple obviously stepped into the ring
Speaker 2: as well, and to Charlotte's point, we've been really focusing
Speaker 2: on software and how that changes. When we met about
Speaker 2: a year ago, we talked about what the future of
Speaker 2: social entertainment is and we believe this is one aspect
Speaker 2: and using our immersive platform as well as our intelligence platform,
Speaker 2: the convergence of AI and these immersive experiences is what
Speaker 2: that future will be.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like what Charlie Mooreen was talking about
Speaker 4: with regards to maybe being kind of like the fly
Speaker 4: on the wall as he's doing these interviews and stuff here,
Speaker 4: But explain to me as a user how I would access.
Speaker 4: Am I gonna need like a VR type of device
Speaker 4: or is this something that can maybe be done just
Speaker 4: on a regular phone or a regular computer screen.
Speaker 2: So great question. What's great about our platform and what
Speaker 2: we've really focused on is mass user adoption, So being
Speaker 2: able to be browser in the browser, being device agnostics,
Speaker 2: so being on your phone, being on your computer, being
Speaker 2: on your tablet, being in a VR headset, working anywhere
Speaker 2: is what matters. So if you can bring the best
Speaker 2: in class experience with unbelieve visual fidelity and anywhere, it's
Speaker 2: going to get the most people there to experience what
Speaker 2: we're trying to build.
Speaker 4: So charlet Manel is something like this though, I mean,
Speaker 4: let's just use your show as an example. Is this
Speaker 4: like the kind of thing where like I would even
Speaker 4: be able as a user maybe even ask a question
Speaker 4: or somehow interact with either you or your guests while
Speaker 4: you're doing the interview or is that not how it's
Speaker 4: going to work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because it's like you know, when you see the
Speaker 3: live streams that people have now, like BREAKFASCE, Club Goals
Speaker 3: Live now, like we'll go live on YouTube or Instagram
Speaker 3: live and you're able to ask those same type of
Speaker 3: questions there. So it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is your first foray into AI. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering what kind of audiences you think being accessible on
Speaker 1: meet Kai will allow you to spread your brand or
Speaker 1: allow your brand to reach out to that you don't
Speaker 1: already through your syndicated radio show.
Speaker 3: Well, I think nowadays, you know, remember back in the day,
Speaker 3: they would say if you build it, you know they
Speaker 3: will come. Nowadays, you have to meet people where they are,
Speaker 3: So everybody's going to be in these spaces anyway, so
Speaker 3: we might as well meet them where they are not and.
Speaker 1: Of course, part of the value proposition of someone like
Speaker 1: Charlottage involved in meek Kai is the kinds of creators
Speaker 1: and influencers that he can bring to your platform. Can
Speaker 1: you give me a better idea of what you're looking
Speaker 1: for from that end?
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that and relationships, and we've talked a
Speaker 2: lot about that, but the wealth of knowledge that he
Speaker 2: has for being in this industry for decades and his
Speaker 2: approach to what we're building is going to be instrumental
Speaker 2: as it relates to our success. So we've talked a
Speaker 2: lot about, you know, the people that he's interested in
Speaker 2: bringing to the platform, and I can let him speak
Speaker 2: to that, but we've worked with some really big names
Speaker 2: right from the NBPA to BYD. There's new worlds coming
Speaker 2: online that are focused solely on the consumer end, from
Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons to the Pro Football Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: to Florida State, mixing AI and immersive for the future
Speaker 2: of education. And then we also have as I talked
Speaker 2: about that convergence is pure play AI that will power
Speaker 2: these in immersive opportunities that Charlie was saying, being able
Speaker 2: to talk to someone regardless of they're human or not.
Speaker 2: One of those platforms. That's really exciting. That's built off
Speaker 2: of our ai is Ascari which goes live today, so
Speaker 2: built on functionary and our family Donald's here at me.
Speaker 4: Kay, So what are you looking to bring Charlotte Man
Speaker 4: like when you talk about the types of additional guests
Speaker 4: and just really the type of people that are going
Speaker 4: to be platformed on.
Speaker 3: This everything you know from from from podcasts to you know,
Speaker 3: comedy shows. You know, the live podcast aspect is something
Speaker 3: that really intrigues me because you know, we all tune
Speaker 3: into our favorite podcast every week. And I have a
Speaker 3: podcast network called The Black Effect Podcast Network. But imagine
Speaker 3: if instead of just you know, watching it on YouTube,
Speaker 3: you can be a partner, like you said, a fly
Speaker 3: on the wall of the actual show every week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm all in on all this pot Did
Speaker 4: you see the call your daddy girl got like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, are you ready to read a ship your contract?
Speaker 3: Also to another good experiences is the audiobooks, right, because
Speaker 3: you know we all like to listen to audiobooks nowadays.
Speaker 3: But imagine if you could just sit there and like,
Speaker 3: you know, sit at the feet of your favorite author
Speaker 3: they're actually performing their audiobook in front of you. I
Speaker 3: just think that makes the whole experience, you know, of
Speaker 3: listening to the audiobooks better.
Speaker 4: I am curious how you and Peter John hooked up.
Speaker 4: Did you approach him because of the product or did
Speaker 4: he reach out to you because of your experience in
Speaker 4: media and all the business ventures that you had.
Speaker 3: Man some things that just god Like, I was in
Speaker 3: we was in cans Can last year and I was
Speaker 3: just sitting around at an.
Speaker 4: iHeart party and you know, as one does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and him and James approached me, and you know,
Speaker 3: they told me about the AI thing, and I was
Speaker 3: just having a conversation about these visions that I've been
Speaker 3: having about what I'm talking about now, and they were like,
Speaker 3: we're already doing that. So it was just kind of
Speaker 3: a natural collaboration.
Speaker 1: How much AI do you dobble in right now? Not much?
Speaker 3: Chad GPT is about as far as I've been going.
Speaker 3: And now meek Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in terms of timeline, here John, what are we
Speaker 1: looking at before we start to see Charmaine on meek
Speaker 1: Kai's various platforms?
Speaker 2: So I think very soon. What's special about our platform
Speaker 2: and what we've been able to build is how fast
Speaker 2: we come to market we're Traditionally, I think people approach
Speaker 2: building these experiences as video games, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that's the right way to do it. We focus on,
Speaker 2: you know, using AI at every turn to make these
Speaker 2: experiences fast and better in every way, and that allows
Speaker 2: us to kind of have development times that are days
Speaker 2: and weeks is supposed to months and years. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we've been talking about the vision of what's
Speaker 2: to come, and I think you'll see some exciting things
Speaker 2: very soon.
Speaker 4: This one final quick question, Charlottete, like when we talk
Speaker 4: about like sort of the future of these shows here,
Speaker 4: so do you see in a vision where maybe these
Speaker 4: shows won't be just on radio or even on radio
Speaker 4: at all or even on TV, that maybe they will
Speaker 4: end up on sort of a meet Kai type of
Speaker 4: platform just like that.
Speaker 3: They're that way now, Like none of these shows exist
Speaker 3: in one space anymore. Like I said, you know, you
Speaker 3: build it. People aren't just going to come to you.
Speaker 3: You have to meet people where they are, so you
Speaker 3: for example, Breakfast Club, we're on the radio, but we
Speaker 3: also come out in the daily podcast every day, and
Speaker 3: we also put out clips on social media and we're
Speaker 3: on YouTube. So that's why we have the audience we have.
Speaker 3: You're talking about, you know, eight million monthly listeners on
Speaker 3: terrestrial radio, but then fifteen to twenty million downloads a
Speaker 3: month on the podcast, then the YouTube, then the social media.
Speaker 3: So you have to exist in all of these spaces
Speaker 3: out there. You can't take one piece of content and
Speaker 3: serve it twenty different places.
Speaker 4: All right, and you got a lot of content. Have
Speaker 4: you talked to Birdman lately?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, all right, let meave it there.
Speaker 4: Charlemagne the God and Peter John Alexander. Charlemagne investing here
Speaker 4: in me Kai a new a virtual world platform, if
Speaker 4: you will. That maybe is the future of media, Scarlett.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should look into this.
Speaker 1: I think our kids will look into this.