1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast survived the swift E takeover 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: It's Around the NFL. I am Dan Hans's heroes here. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Yes, she did six shows and 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: seven nights here at Sofi Stadium, and now it is over. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: No more cars in the parking lot, no more maniacal fans, 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: no more screaming. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: It's well, I mean we were here typically in the 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: morning to early afternoon hours. I didn't even notice it. 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: I mean I drive in and out. Did you what did? 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 3: Was there something happening? 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Some extra grinding from daddy. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: Daddy was at the Hard Knocks stuff on Tuesday, which 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: took us right into another Swifty explosion. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 4: Right, you are the daddy in this case, Well. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Obviously are daddy. I could if you want. We got 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: that conversation. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: I don't know you are young. 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm already a daddy to two sons. I don't the 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: whole dynamic would make me. I'm not looking for you 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: to be my father, Greg request. 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: No, I'm not either. 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: It's just confusing because technically we are all father right, 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 4: two children? 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: Well, yes, you know, yes, true? You know one other 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: note that I didn't mention about that concert. The second 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: song is the song that's a huge fan favorite called 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: Cruel Summer. And now I know what it was like 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: to see the Beatles. Seventy five thousand people in that 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: building every and many women and girls, as I told 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: you yesterday, screaming at the top of their lungs, either 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: the lyrics of the song or just screaming out of 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: control screaming. 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: Couldn't hear Taylor Swift. 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: I could see her, you could hear the bass stumping, 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: but you actually couldn't hear her because the crowd was 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: going that ballistic. 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw lots of video of like girls crazy, 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: breaking down, crying like literally melty, it's nuts to tears. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: You should have tried to buy them down. You're like 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: trying to listen. 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: By Doddie's trying to enjoy the show. 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: That's weird too. 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: You know who I saw in the huddle yesterday. It's 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: kind of reminded me of old NFL times where you 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: just see random athletes in the huddle. Chris Johnson, the 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: Great Titans Russia, and I told him he was once 48 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: on the because he was walking around with their friend 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: David Singer, and we were talking and told me he 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: was once on the cover of a magazine I produced, 51 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: the old fantasy magazine. And it reminded me the roador World. 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 4: Now you told him that I did. 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: What was his react? Was it a Taylor Swift typer? 54 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: We were talking fantasy just how like how crazy people were. 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he was like a superstar in the NFL. Yeah, 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: that's a wild thing. Like, hey, do you know you 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: were on the cover of a magazine once? 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: I was just like, it reminded me, how you know 59 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: we're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio that Chris 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: Wesseling at least partly made his name on Roadorworld dot com. 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: I would say a solid brick in the foundation of 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: Roadorworld dot Com was on Chris Wesseling's Chris Johnson take 63 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: that he that. I think it was his rookie and 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: it reminded me with this training camp coming up, it 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: was his rookie training camp that Chris planted a flag 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: as hard as you could possibly plant a flag that 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: not only will Chris Johnson like be a factor, but 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: he will win you your fantasy league and as he's gonna 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: be like one of the fantasy stories and he couldn't 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 4: have been more aggressive about it. And it's like putting 71 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: him like aggressively atop the rankings and everyone's like, okay, wow, 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: Chris weistle, and then it came so true. I feel 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: like even for years he was living off the fumes 74 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: of his Great. 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: Christmas and his personal website had some incredible Chris Johnson 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: write ups, and I think in general, like around this 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: time when the game, these preseason games would get started 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: and you could argue to their relative meaninglessness compared to 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: what comes next, but he would always have one or 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: two running backs, especially at that position, that say, I'm 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: watching them, I see how fit they are, they look 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: different than ever before. They're going to explode. And then 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: you're in week three, week four, and he's completely right. 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Like you with Toby Gerhart a few years back. 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Well that was like, you know, to making the lead 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: articles on Toby Gearhart didn't push him over the finish line. 87 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine Chris Johnson two thousand and six yards, 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: fourteen touchdowns, rushing sixteen total, averaging one hundred and twenty 89 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: five yards per game. He won Offensive Player of the Year. 90 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: For twenty five hundred yards from scrimmage is that the 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: most Ever. 92 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: It's if it's not the most, it's it's it's close, 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: I you know, And it's cautionary tale of course, because 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: he had let's see fifty catch it. Yeah, yeah, four 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: hundred touches, had one Pro Bowl the next year, and 96 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: then was never a Pro bowler again or an All Pro. 97 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: It is by the way that I mean, that's kind 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: of an underrated record as record's going, gaining the most 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: amount of yards of anyone in the history of the 100 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: sports record. 101 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Marshall Fulk, Marshall Fox, Christian McCaffrey's number three. 102 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, and I early in our tenure, Mark he 103 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: was kind of like the first running back to fail 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: in his attempt to get paid. Remember that totally ponderous 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: holdout that became a major storyline throughout the twenty eleven 106 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: off season or twenty ten offseason. Going into twenty eleven. 107 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: He wanted quarterback money. Think about that and how much 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: the league has changed. He wanted quarterback superstar money coming 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: two years off his I mean, he was their quarterback 110 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: for half right, coming off his two thousand yard season, 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: and he had to settle for a nice deal, but 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: nowhere near quarterback money. 113 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: Now these guys are just trying to get like safety money. 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gone south. It's going in the wrong direction. 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: Six straight years of fourteen hundred yards from scrimmage. I mean, 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: I guess he's not even getting considered at all for 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame stuff. 118 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: But that's pretty good. That's better than he peaked early. 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be the only thing anyway. Good 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: Chris Johnson talk. What did he say when you said 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you were on a magazine? 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the way I put it, either way I put it. 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't even know how we 124 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: were talking for a few minutes, Like it was taken 125 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: a while for that sandwich to come to the point 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: where I was like, I think we all were ready 127 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: to move on in our lives. But he was very cool. 128 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: We were having good talk. 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't remember, do you think, Mark, do you think 130 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: he remembers the conversation ed with Greg. 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: I think it's probably you know, if he sort of 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: scans this entire trip to the West Coast, it's got 133 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: to be in the top two or three things that 134 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: occurred to him and. 135 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: A bunch of squares at that NFL network. That little 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: guy that was pretty cool in the lunch room that 137 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: one dude. 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's it. That's uh, the Chris Johnson tail. 139 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: We have some fun stuff to get to. We have 140 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Eric Edholm coming up to talk power rankings. 141 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: How about that. 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second. We also have 143 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: football games kind of starting this weekend, starting tonight in 144 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: fact Thursday, a couple of games tonight and then games 145 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: through Sunday, the first full week of preseason action, and 146 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: we're going to kind of spin through the schedule of 147 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: games and share some things that we're looking forward to. 148 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Some of us are looking forward to. 149 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we don't have We don't have the same 150 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: take on the preseason. And I'm surprised that I'm the 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: guy not even the most cynical preseason observe in this room. 152 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: Like if I could like the bit you did where 153 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: you just got up and left the room during our 154 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: quarterback conversation, it's. 155 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 4: Not a bit, then why are we doing this segment? 156 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Because I am not a monster, and I know how 157 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: much you guys. 158 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: I think you might have suggested it. 159 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: No, I was like, yeah, yesterday it was like you did, 160 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: should we do so? 161 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: Hit the preseason is like part of the show tomorrow 162 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: and everybody's like, yeah, good. And then we got on 163 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: the phone and I was like, Mark's like, I have 164 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: seven hundred takes to share it for the preseason. 165 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I would argue this because I think normally, I think 166 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: the preseason starts and you're like, oh, wait a minute, 167 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: this is terrible. 168 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: But and it is right. 169 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: But this time around, I think that you got a 170 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: lot of rookie heat at wide receiver, at quarterback, and 171 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: it's a little bit different. You got some teams. Save 172 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: it a little bit different. 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: Save it. 174 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: That's all. Save it. Not only do we have that 175 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: this is our product, pedal. I appreciate the product. I 176 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: actually have a gift. 177 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 178 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: It's a little out of character for you to fall 179 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: the line with the corporate machine, and I like it. 180 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: We need more of it. 181 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: This is not on I think if you go and 182 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: look at every the hours leading up to the first 183 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: week of preseason, I'm jazzed up. But I do admit 184 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: that about ten minutes into you know, Patriots Texans at 185 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: four ten pm on the West Coast and be like, 186 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: this is not a real product. 187 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: That's what kills me getry. I've done it before. I 188 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: try to get in excited about the preseason, right, and 189 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: trust me what we're going to talk about. And that's 190 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: why I wasn't a jerk about it yesterday. I was 191 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: even like, yeah, let's do it. I like the idea 192 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: of the stories and who's gonna win this job and 193 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: that job. But then the games start and I'm like, 194 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: oh boy, I shouldn't say too much. Actually, all right, 195 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: we'll be back monday. Yes that the games are still 196 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: better than nothing. 197 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: I mean, are our boss? Are they? 198 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Who was also in the huddle yesterday, Roger Goodell was 199 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: there to not get a chance to speak with him, 200 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: tell him that he's been on a magazine and he 201 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: was walking around talking to some interns. 202 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: So I had I had a near Goodell running. But 203 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: as Patrick Claibone was coming up the stairs from our yes, 204 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: the book the basement level makeup area, and he said 205 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: Goodell's down there, and so I had a like a 206 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: hobo's paper bag of clothing that you know now I. 207 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Noticed that bag, well yesterday it looked a little you. 208 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: Put it in the bag. And then it was said like, 209 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: so I'm walking down the corridor, there's a gaggle of 210 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: like high high looking officials, and I was not allowed 211 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: into the men's locker room because apparently Goodell was in 212 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: there changing. So I was told by someone that I'm 213 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: not going to say it was, was like, please come 214 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: back later, not for you right now, of course. So 215 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: my sad little paper bag, and I turned around. 216 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: Picturing you with like the the hobo stick, with the bandana, 217 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: with the stuff far from it walking down the highway. 218 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: Like if I had not had the bag, they would 219 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: have let me in the room. 220 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: I brought him up and we didn't get a chance 221 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: to talk. Unfortunately. I've actually never really spoken with Roger 222 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: Goodell in my life. 223 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: So we have multiple comers, but good ones good one. Yeah. 224 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: Really, but he tried. He tried to squash another week 225 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: out of the preseason. 226 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: I remember. 227 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 4: I mean he was moving hard and he got so 228 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: much pushback, so I mean he kind of shared your view. 229 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: He was trying to get it down there. 230 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Do we have a preseason promo? Read later? 231 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: We do? 232 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I want the Shadowy League figures to know that 233 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: I'm going all the way in. I'm going hard on 234 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: that read. 235 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: Because I like it. 236 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Here, right before we get to Eric at Home, let's 237 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: hit one bit of news. Not a bunch going on, 238 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: considering we just did a show yesterday. But you know, 239 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: the defending world champion Chiefs are a team that need 240 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Chris Jones in the building, and he's not because Chris 241 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Jones is a holdout. He wants to be paid at 242 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: the highest levels in terms of defenders in the NFL. However, 243 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: Red Veach, who you mocked famously a few years back, 244 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: but then walk that back and apologize. 245 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: And the whole thing was I just liked I just 246 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: made a funny voice and pretended. 247 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: To be Yeah, it was a little. 248 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 4: Less about him personally, and just you know, he just 249 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: got caught in the comedy cross fire. 250 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes when it's pure comic genius, like I guess, sometimes 251 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 2: you just catch. 252 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: Astray and you know, it's all in the game, no surrender. 253 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: It's all the game. 254 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: GM Red Beach told The Athletic on Wednesday, do not 255 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: expect Chris Jones to be sent out of town. They 256 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: have no intention Here's the quote. We have no intentions 257 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: of trading Chris since the start of the offseason. Chris 258 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: has been right at the top of our priorities. Every year, 259 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: it's a different scenario and a different dynamic. One of 260 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: the dynamics this year was the fact that some of 261 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: the players in that position group didn't get done until 262 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: late so there was a natural holding pattern. He's entering 263 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: the final year, Chris Jones, of his four year, eighty 264 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: million dollar contract. He wants a big time extension. 265 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: The highest paid. 266 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: Player, by the way, at his position is Aaron Donald, 267 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: who got three for ninety five last summer. Quentin Williams 268 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: most recently got the bag four for ninety six. So 269 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: you could figure out again different angle than Greg. You've 270 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: been on the agents recently. I'm more like, why we 271 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: it's all just all the contracts now are built out. Yeah, 272 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: so you're if you're the if you're Chris Jones, be like, 273 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: excuse me, management, I'm good. And I go back to 274 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: the chiefs and I say, Quinn Williams four for ninety six, 275 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: I would like four. 276 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: For one oh four. 277 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: That's all you do. A total snooze fest of a situation, 278 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: because of course he's gonna get paid. 279 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: And he keep the commission right, it's a bonkers financial strategy. 280 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: He's gonna get paid. We're just just we'll just check 281 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: back in a fortnite here. I believe. I believe so. 282 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 4: I think I want to just give a round of 283 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: a pause to us the football coknas SENTI ah that 284 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: how little attention this has gotten. Nick Bosa is a holdout, 285 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: Chris Jones is a holdout. These are two of the 286 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: best players in the league that certainly would be the 287 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 4: best two free agents in the league next year if 288 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: they were free, if they got to free agency, and 289 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 4: yet there's almost been no attention. I mean, back in 290 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: the day we were writing daily stories about Javon Walker. 291 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: I don't know why the Javon Walker hold out is 292 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: the one that really scarred me. It's probably because they 293 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: don't play quarterback, and people ultimately just don't care about 294 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: non quarterbacks. But like Nick Bosa, Chris Jones, and then 295 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: I would throw Josh Jake in there, holding out has 296 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: gotten almost no attention. 297 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: I remember back in the day writing roughly like four 298 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: hundred and twelve like meaningless updates about Matt Fourte trying 299 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: to get paid with the Bears was just like gun 300 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: to head, toughy, and then it just happened. It's like 301 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: just now I think we are learning just stay silent, 302 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: put head to ground and it will happen at some point. 303 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: There's like an outside chance. I feel like, you know, 304 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: these could go into like the week before week one 305 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 4: and be a little surprising. If he would miss time, 306 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: maybe Josh Jacobs would be the one dead. 307 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: That one feels a little angry enough. 308 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: The only thing that. 309 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: As a chiefs and I wouldn't be concerned, the only 310 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: thing that would concern me slightly. Of course, he's an 311 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: elite athlete whose production tells you he busts asked to 312 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: be who he is. But if he's out of camp 313 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: and doing his own thing and then he comes back 314 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: in a week before the game start, is he gonna 315 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: be kind of ready to go? Is he susceptible to injury? 316 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: You want your guys in the bill and you want 317 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: to feel like, yeah, that. 318 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Part's and he's older. Yeah, this is his third contract. 319 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 4: This is not as he's already gotten one big contract. 320 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 4: And I think that probably is what's complicating it a 321 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: little bit, because he's the best at what he does, 322 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: basically at his particular I know he's a different player 323 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: than Donald. He might get paid like it, but he's 324 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: got to be thirty two to thirty three by the 325 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: end of this contract. 326 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a little news item. Anything else. It's the 327 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: last time we had one news item. Well, you had 328 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: one you wanted to add, No. 329 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: I was would mention that the Browns added Shelby Harris. 330 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: So you would mention that, wouldn't you. 331 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they've done a nice job this offseason. 332 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: That was a huge weakness all last year. You could 333 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: run right through them like an open barn door, and 334 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: they've shored that up. 335 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: You think they've done enough. How are you feeling about 336 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: the Browns offense? I was pretty stunned off side that defense. 337 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: Rather that the Football Outsiders have their ninth in defense. 338 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: I thought that was high too, because for me, it's 339 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: always like, let's see it first. But I think they've 340 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: got a pretty elite group of cornerbacks. They've got some 341 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: young safeties. You've you've put someone across from Miles Garrett, 342 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: and the interior defensive line has been patched up. So 343 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: they did about as much as you could do. And 344 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: you get these August signings and like Shelby Harris like 345 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: has been a really consistent player. 346 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: I think so right, all their draft picks haven't worked. 347 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: I guess they just drafted someone siaki Ika, so he 348 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: can play there. But you're right, it's kind of like 349 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: the old the old big guy group, Dalvin Thomas and 350 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Shelby Harris, da Darius Smith. Probably they all they all 351 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: won't work out. But defense to me is a little 352 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 4: less about talent a little more just about like coaching 353 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: and attitude. Are they playing hard? 354 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: You know? 355 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: So if Schwartz can get him to do that. 356 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, the coordinator was a big problem the last two years. 357 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: You're bad. Don't just do your job. Do your job 358 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: and more right, that's where football is. 359 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: That slogan on Tuesday after seeing that on Hard Knocks 360 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: from the. 361 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: I can't wait to, you know, see Belichick shake Jeff 362 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: Ulbrick's hand after the eleventh graate Patriots victory over the Jets. 363 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: And be like, little. 364 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: I knew more about football before you were even born. 365 00:15:54,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Good stuff, all right, Transition, I remember you was a. 366 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Player on the forty nine ers. 367 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: You were a jack transition, you know. 368 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: I one, it's not a criticism of Hard Knocks, and 369 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go dungee here, by the way, 370 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: but the Jets are the hard knocks team and my 371 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: son Jack is really starting to get into football. In fact, 372 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: it's his birthday this weekend, and he asked his grandmother 373 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: for an Aaron Rodgers jersey and that's arriving on Saturday. 374 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: And he previously out of Sam Darneld jersey and a 375 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: Zach Wilson jersey. So there are times to charm. How 376 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: do you watch that with the eight year old? When 377 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: jeth Oldbrick is going off with f bombs? How do 378 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: I do it? What's the what's the play? 379 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: So I brought that up because Walker wanted to watch 380 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: it and he's watched Quarterback, and I said, well, there's 381 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: there's a lot of bad words there, and he's very 382 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: Whenever I say a bad word something that's not even 383 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: a bad word, like dumb, he'll be like, that's a 384 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: bad word. 385 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not it. 386 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: That's not really a bad word, not in the array 387 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: of bad words anyways. So I said that, I said, 388 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: there's a lot of, you know, bad words on that show. 389 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 4: He's like, I already know all the bad words, So 390 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 4: what's the difference. 391 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's a big deal. I was like, 392 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: that's a. 393 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Strong bombs are pretty heavy though, No. 394 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: But my he's like, I know the worst ones I 395 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: was like, I know, I nobody. 396 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: My kids know them all. There doesn't seem to be 397 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: a compulsion to say them out loud in our house. 398 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: They're a little older, but yeah, they're a little older. 399 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: But I watched like the first half hour of Saving 400 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: Private Ryan with him yesterday, which I know is intense. 401 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: Wait wait, well no, because like they're really into World 402 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: War two and stuff, and I was like, well, I think. 403 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: You got a ring. That one of the most savage depictions. 404 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: It's insane, it's insane, but they handled the beautifully and 405 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: like we're going to continue to watch it. Like it's 406 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: like I think you ripped a band aid off at 407 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: some point and start showing real things. I tried. There 408 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: is a man that carries his own arm at one point, 409 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: but like there's a lot of other things that happen. 410 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: It's not that's nothing. 411 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: They not judging your parenting. I just think that movie 412 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 2: I think of the opening scene being as horrifying as 413 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: any depiction of it. 414 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: It is ever it is, But like they weren't, they were, 415 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: they were in app attention. 416 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Now I don't feel so guilty about Yeah, I. 417 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: Think he can handle It's like he's gonna you know 418 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: it's a guy in a chair saying a bad word. 419 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: Jack got into his first fight last week at a camp. 420 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: Differing differing items of reporting on this, but Jack said 421 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: the kid in front of him his hat fell off, 422 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: and Jack said he stepped on it, but accidentally m. 423 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 424 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: The boy then turned around, gave it to Jack and 425 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: said I thought you were my friend. 426 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Why'd you do that? 427 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: And then kicked him and on the playground it was 428 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: like kicking him and calling him the B word, and 429 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: then Jack called him the B word back, and then 430 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: the counselor say the B word. 431 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: I don't think you need to worry about the jet Steve, Yeah, exactly, 432 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: he's already well, this is my point. 433 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: And I actually didn't even come down too hard on 434 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: him about getting busted by the counselor because he's now 435 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: at that age where you're gonna have dust ups with 436 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: kids sometimes. I had it when I was I remember 437 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 2: Saint Margaret's in the Layup line with Tommy O'Hara, him 438 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: going back and forth with him, that that was right 439 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: around that age, and the language starts to ramp up 440 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: around his age. I was just like, maybe, again, I 441 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: don't want to dongify this, but maybe. 442 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: There's a it's HBO Max. 443 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: You can do anything on that streaming platform. You could 444 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: put the belief version and the uncensored version. 445 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: You could also fast forward through that part too. Great 446 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: part you the parent Well, I know, but then's and 447 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: that's not just that. 448 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: Part obviously, you know. 449 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's get to a very important matter here, 450 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: vitally important. 451 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: For the past. 452 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: And I think I have to address this because I 453 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: was getting some stuff on social that seemed to there 454 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: are people that were curious if this was. 455 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Went down a different way. 456 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: We've had some let's face it, we've had some unnecessary 457 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: drama involving turnover connected to this podcast in this offseason 458 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: and the transfer of duties. I will no longer be 459 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: doing power rankings NFL dot com this year. This was 460 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: my idea, It was our idea collectively, because we are 461 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: really excited to do some more stuff connected to this show, 462 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: specifically with NFL Plus. We're gonna have to kind of 463 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: announce our plans to the audience soon on that, but 464 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: we're working on like multiple new shows connected to the 465 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: universe of A ten. So it was time to get 466 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 2: Power Rings up the plate and it's so important. 467 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: I think in any. 468 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: Kind of group or organization for a nation, what have 469 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: you a peaceful transfer of power, right because without that 470 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: you have chaos. 471 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: Like when one president's chanding it off to another president. 472 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: We need that peaceful transfer of power. 473 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: And with that set, I want to welcome on a 474 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: highly qualified individual who has taken the scepter of not 475 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: just the Power Rankings. This is what Eric and I 476 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: spoke last week, the Power Rankings. Eric at Holme Writer 477 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: NFL dot com. The Power Rankings got. 478 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 5: Your handwritten note in the top desk drawer, you know 479 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: in the presidential office. 480 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: Thank you for that. Was a nice touch. 481 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: But and I do sorry about all the F bombs 482 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: in it. You know that. You know I've been watching. 483 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: This is such a parenting show. I didn't know that 484 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: that was such a big topic. But I'm I'm going 485 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: to tune into every format you guys have going forward 486 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: to make sure I'm. 487 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 6: Knowing when to screen Shindler's List for my kids. You 488 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 6: know that sort of thing. 489 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: That's what happens when you have one news item. 490 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: So yes, right, right, right, yeah, that was Dad in June, right, Yes, Eric, 491 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: who is a lead draft writer for US here at 492 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: NFL dot Com does awesome work there, and and yeah, 493 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: after four years of Power Rankings, it was time for 494 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: me to graduate do something else. And and who's more 495 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: qualified than at home? Who's done it in the past, 496 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: different in different places, And the first one. 497 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Was a banger in fact. 498 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: And I point everyone over to his Power rankings because 499 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: one thing, for example, Eric's he's streets ahead of me 500 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: in terms of this time of year, especially because he 501 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: can tell you, all right, here's my rankings, and the 502 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: ranking especially this time of year, arbitrary of course, however, 503 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: the rookie classes and how they're going to look and 504 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: what we're going to be looking for in these upcoming 505 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: preseason games. Eric does a great job in the first 506 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Power Rankings diving into that side of these teams, which 507 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: is so vital. 508 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: So good job, Eric, And terrible job putting the Chiefs 509 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: number one. I just don't see it. 510 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: It's time to get after some people on Power rankings. 511 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, good stuff, Bud, a great start. 512 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you. 513 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 5: It's funny that one of the last Twitter replies I 514 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: just got was somebody imploring me to be different, to 515 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: be bold, to be creative, to think outside of the 516 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 5: box and not. 517 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: Just put two last year's two Super Bowls to top 518 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 6: the list. But I didn't want to break the news 519 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 6: to him. 520 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 5: If I if I did that, I would have you know, 521 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 5: I would have had Bengals Cowboys at the top. I 522 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: would have gotten more you know, garbage from that too. 523 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 5: So I have been indoctrinated into the the fan response thing. 524 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: The last two days have given me a kind of 525 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 5: a tiny snapshot of what you've gone through for four years. 526 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a ride. It's gonna be a ride. 527 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 5: I'll say that it'll be fun. 528 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: I'd ask you this because I know that Dan took 529 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 3: a lot of heat. No matter what you do, you 530 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: got big groups of people coming after you, and like, 531 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: what is your confrontational style? Are you someone that's just 532 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: gonna absorb it and like it, you know, go water 533 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: off a ducks back, or do you get on Twitter 534 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: and start telling people you sit down? I'm the writer. 535 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, the old at home would would have would have 536 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 5: fired back and thrown haymakers as best I could. 537 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: I think I've melted a little bit. 538 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 5: I don't know if if that's a having kids saying 539 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: or getting married there, I don't know. 540 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 6: Just being in the business for for a while thing. 541 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 5: But I do save up some little, quick, pithy responses 542 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 5: whenever I have them in my back pocket. But these days, 543 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 5: I mean, you can look. I think I've responded about 544 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: five or six people. The other two hundred and thirty 545 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: six are gonna have to wait. 546 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm trying to guess, and you can tell me if 547 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: I can guess right, because it's I'm trying to guess 548 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: who has already been going after you the most that 549 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: weren't happy with these rankings. 550 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: I'll throw the Seahawks out there. 551 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, they're like a nicer fan base in general. 552 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: They're smart, but they might not be happy with being fourteenth. 553 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 4: I mean, I was trying to think other than that, 554 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: I don't see anything popping too too much. 555 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, in fact, a lot of right above them, the 556 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: Browns mark. You can weigh in on this if you 557 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 5: have a strong feeling. I was gonna put the Browns 558 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: a little higher than thirteenth. I had Seattle fourteenth, Cleveland. 559 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: I know, I know, and I said to myself, I 560 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: don't think I can do it. In fact, I had 561 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 5: just read Greg your little tantalizing nugget about what Collinsworth 562 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: was saying about Deshaun Watson. 563 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: I hadn't seen it yet. 564 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: I hadn't I hadn't watched the TV broadcast. Was that 565 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 5: for the face all Greg could probably set it up 566 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: better than I can, but basically kind of questioning whether 567 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 5: Watson was a fit in this offense. 568 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Thursday night and we didn't really ever 569 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: hit it on the podcast, but it was interesting reading 570 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 4: between the lines. It sounded like Collinsworth had talked to 571 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: the coaching staff and to Watson and there was a 572 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: little bit of a disagreement of the direction of the offense. 573 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: That you know, Stefanski does one thing and Watson wants 574 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: to freestyle and do a little more spread and a 575 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: little more running, and that maybe the Browns weren't going 576 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: to change their offense as much as Deshaun Watson was hoping. 577 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 4: And the way he said it was couched, but it 578 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: knowing how these things work, I don't think it was 579 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. And that was just like a little 580 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 4: a little something to file away where if they're four 581 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: and you know, seven and they fire Stefanski, I'll remember 582 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 4: that was you know, Watson's gonna be there next I. 583 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: Was going to say, there's one guy that has a 584 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed contract and one 585 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: guy entering his fourth year who hasn't made the playoffs 586 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: in two and there're one playoff when he was on 587 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: the couch on his in his basement. 588 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 3: Isn't that why it's totally fair to have Cleveland at thirteen. 589 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: I love it because I. 590 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: Shared number thirteen real quick, just setting you up this 591 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: way mark that to me, and we didn't talk about this. 592 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Eric. Thirteen was always my twilight zone. 593 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: That spot thirteen was where I couldn't quite figure out, 594 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: and it was always natural fit. 595 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: So I think it works for the way you kind 596 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: of came up with it too. 597 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: When I couldn't quite buy in on a team, but 598 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: I also couldn't I couldn't think I can't bury them 599 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen, seventeen. Thirteen was like this is my I'm 600 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: gonna park him here because I don't know what to do. 601 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't be offended if you're a fan 602 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: of a team sitting at thirteen. I think Cleveland just 603 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: has this variance because we don't know what's going to 604 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: happen with the most important position. They're talented, you can 605 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: see it on paper. But that's been true for a 606 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: number of years and the wins haven't come. So I 607 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: have no issue with them being where they are. 608 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 5: I that twelve through probably let me look at my 609 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: list here. 610 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 6: Eighteen, seventeen eighteen. I would say I had the Giants 611 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 6: at eighteen. That got some people gathered up. 612 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: Steelers at nineteen got was really yeah. 613 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 6: That one set people off, and I understand it, right. 614 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 5: I just think the division's brutal, and the same could 615 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 5: be said for the NFC. 616 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: So that's where has the Steelers a pin for nineteen 617 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: wins this year? 618 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: I set up a double digit wins, But I don't think, well, yeah, well, 619 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 3: I would ask you a question because I so I 620 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: did QB index Greg Greg has done in a number 621 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: of times. I always felt like when I'm writing that 622 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: thing and you get from like twenty two to twenty 623 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: eight and like I'm staring at quarterbacks that I'm not 624 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: even sure she should be in the league based on injuries. 625 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: It's like, you, what sort of substances do you and 626 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: buy at that point just to get through that lurky 627 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: area that's just like undefinable. 628 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's usually cold coffee by that point because I'm 629 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 5: so dialed in. You know, this is a piece, and 630 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 5: I've sort of realized quickly that you know, you can 631 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 5: do in small chunks, or you can just try to 632 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 5: sit down for a three hour chunk and knock. 633 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 6: Out as much as you can. 634 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 5: That's what I did, and I didn't refill my cups, 635 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: So it was it was the cold coffee taste in 636 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 5: my mouth that I was like, We're getting to the 637 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 5: point where I'm going to make some people mad, and 638 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 5: I don't really know what I'm doing here, because like 639 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 5: you said, there's so many unknown, so many variables. 640 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 6: It's a lot of dark throwing. Some of these picks 641 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 6: are gonna look ridiculous in a couple. 642 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: I think that based on my time writing, especially last 643 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: season and the way Justin Fields broke out in some 644 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: ways last year, and then the very busy offseason for 645 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: the Bears, the Chicago fans coming after you, a little 646 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: bit of having them at twenty five. 647 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny because I think I had him. 648 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: I did some shuffling and I think I started him 649 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 5: at twenty three and then just kept kind of saying, well, 650 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put right commanders ahead of Yeah, I mean 651 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: the defense of the commanders, Mike Rabel for the Titans. 652 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 5: You know, Green Bay could surprise people whatever. I kept 653 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: sliding people ahead of them. So yeah, I got a 654 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 5: little heat from my hometown folks. And you know, I'm 655 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 5: just trying to be realistic about it where I think, Look, 656 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: they still have a ton of issues to figure out. 657 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: Am I optimistic? Is the arrow point in the right way? 658 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 6: I think so? 659 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 5: But there were still enough kind of reports about fields 660 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: and having some some up and down practices that it 661 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 5: made me think I can't really graduate these guys up 662 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 5: to contender status just because Aaron Rodgers in the AFC 663 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: East Right now. 664 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: I should say, bad host job. 665 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Here's the top ten Chiefs, Eagles, Niners, Bengals, Bills. You 666 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: could move maybe the back end of the top five 667 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: round you want, if you want, But I think that's fine. 668 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys six, Ravens seven, Jets eight. See I'm a little 669 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: bit relieved I don't have to get killed for being 670 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: a Homer. Sure, but I would have the Jets right 671 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: in that zone as well, Dolphins nine, Jags ten, and 672 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: then right on the outside looking in Lions and Chargers 673 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: eleven twelve. 674 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: I have no issue with that, except I think the 675 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: Ravens are coming in a little higher than I would 676 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: have thought. 677 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: Yes, I think that's another team that I had some 678 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: regret on and probably would have put a little bit higher. 679 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, look, it happens, Greg, it happens, 680 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: and you send it in or you know, you have regrets, 681 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: no weight. 682 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's strange though, that we've 683 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: gotten some some some real frustration out of Ravens camp 684 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: about the offense. 685 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 6: Not strange, I shouldn't say that. You know, these things happen, right, 686 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 6: I mean, but I. 687 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 5: Really was expecting there to be a little bit more 688 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: of a smoother runway, that they would kind of get 689 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 5: this thing rolling and then kind of branch it out offensively. 690 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's it's not as if he 691 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: hasn't been an offensive coordinator before, but it's a different thing. 692 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: So it seems like there's been a little bit of 693 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: frustration from Lamar and the receivers aren't quite fitting in yet. 694 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 6: But yeah, I might have gone a tiny bit higher 695 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 6: if I had a redo. 696 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: Right below kind of the six. I feel like there's 697 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 4: six teams this year Chiefs, Eagles, forty nine, Ers, Bengals, Bills, Cowboys, 698 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: where if like they don't make the playoffs, right, it's 699 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: a catastrophe, And I do think there's sort of a 700 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: cut after that. 701 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Now. 702 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure Ravens fans or Jets fans. 703 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: Will feel like it's a catastrophe if they don't make 704 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 4: the playoffs too, But it's like, not everyone can make 705 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 4: the playoffs. But those first six I suspect are kind 706 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: of a consensus for six though, But looking at the 707 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: power in general, like, I feel like the bottom of 708 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: the league isn't as bad as it's been in some years. 709 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: The Cardinals, yes, and and some other teams will pop 710 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: in there. Maybe it's the Colt so you have a 711 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: little higher than expected twenty six. But like, looking at 712 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: teams like the Raiders and the Bucks, I can't kill 713 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: you for making them twenty ninth and thirtieth. But it's 714 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: like those teams have a lot of players for the 715 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: twenty ninth and thirtieth team. And that's why the NFL 716 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: is the greatest sports league in the world. 717 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Here comes a one hundred dollars Just stuff. 718 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: Where's my MVP coin? Are we still giving you? 719 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 6: Get free usage of the locker room. 720 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: It is crazy. 721 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's like the Raiders, I get I get it. 722 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: They're at twenty nine. It's like, man, the Raiders have 723 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: a lot of players for twenty nine. 724 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: Same with the Buck It's an optimistic time of year 725 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: obviously for almost every team except for the Cardinals. And 726 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: that's when this is so hard, because it's like somebody's 727 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: got to be thirty twenty thirty one, twenty nine, twenty seven, 728 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: and you know, then the games start, and Eric, that's 729 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: when it gets really fun and really busy and really contentious. 730 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: But I think you're the right man for the job. 731 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate that the scepter has been passed for and 732 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: the one thing I would say, if you can continue 733 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: to carry on the legacy of just unearned confidence and 734 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: letting people know that there are many power rankings, but 735 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: there is only one that truly matters, and it's the 736 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: one that comes from the NFL itself, and now it 737 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: is you in control. 738 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Good luck, sir. 739 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous all of a sudden, the way 740 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: you painted it that way, but yeah, all right, I'm 741 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: in I hope you guys willow me back on to 742 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 5: talk power rankings sometime and yeah, I appreciate everything you've done. 743 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Remember what RG three said, the grind is the fine. 744 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: Dan every every Tuesday before he pressed published would actually 745 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: bow to this shrine of of Vic Carriucci, the first 746 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: person to George Washington of power ranking. 747 00:32:59,760 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: True. 748 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: That's sure, get his mug behind me as a tribute. 749 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: Going after it turned the rev. All right, Eric, thank 750 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: you very much, buddy, good luck, will be in touch. 751 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 6: Thanks Eric, all right, boys, thank you. 752 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: See Eric, of all the great things connected with power 753 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: rank is the most annoying thing that the only thing 754 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: that really got me pissed is if, like I don't 755 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: do as much, but if I posted on Instagram, like 756 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: a shot of me and my sons or something, and 757 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: then some bonehead would do that, Yeah, yo, Rams at 758 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: twenty four, you suck. You should be fired. It's like bruh. 759 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 760 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: I think the greatest insult I ever got was underneath 761 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: one of an article you're dumb and your kids are dumb. 762 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: And I only had one child at the time, like. 763 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: Well you have the daughter too, maybe reference maybe that 764 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: was stepfather and perhaps because you were compared to the 765 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: absentee until she was eighteen, I mean it stuck with 766 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: me a time. All right, let's take a break and 767 00:33:52,000 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: then we'll get into preseason Week one promo time. Welcome back, 768 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: and this is an important one. My employment hinges on 769 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: how much I put into this week free two one. 770 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: Football is back and NFL Network has every preseason game, 771 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: including twenty three live. That's my favorite number in this 772 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: social the year, big names putting new cities on their backs, 773 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: a new class putting their names on the map. Your team, 774 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: your team, mark who's your team? 775 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network? 776 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: Okay, is back in action. It's time for football. The 777 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: NFL preseason August tenth through the twenty sixth on NFL 778 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: Network and stream on NFL Plus. 779 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Ty is August tenth. Football is tonight. 780 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 3: Football is back. 781 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: Kind of Minnesota Vikings at Seattle Seahawks, Houston, Texans at 782 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: New England Patriots will see j Stroud. Vikings at Seahawks, 783 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah? Texans at New England at Patriots winch me. 784 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into why don't we do it 785 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: like this? 786 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: You killed that read by the way, genuine zeal was 787 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: kind of pouring out of you. 788 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 4: Okay, it's a big, big mom. I mean, Walker has 789 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 4: been counting down. He's he's into the preseason. I think 790 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: it's he's a boy. Yeah, he don't know anything. Well, 791 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: the adults are the adults are too thin. I mean, 792 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 4: I don't think what adults talking out of school. I 793 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 4: mean the Hall of Fame game got higher ratings than 794 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: like like NBA. 795 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: Playoff games, MLB playoff game. 796 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: It's our it's our biggest couple of weeks of the 797 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: year on NFL network because we're just preseason all the 798 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 4: time and tons of people watch it. 799 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: You're right, but Greg, you're suggesting that Dan and I 800 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: aren't totally we're bought in, we're involved. 801 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 2: Yes, the the popularity of say, the Hall of Fame game, 802 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: which is outrageous, that game from a competitive stamp point 803 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: competition standpoint, just shows you how the juggernaut the NFL 804 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: is that that we have and we're you know, very 805 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: lucky to cover this sport that could that could garner 806 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: numbers like that for a game in which virtually no 807 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: starters are even on the field. We're going to see 808 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: starters on the field, not not everybody. 809 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of big names. 810 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: Very rare that you see big names, especially a quarterback 811 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: position playing, but We're going to see a lot of 812 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: players that are going to matter. And let's start with 813 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 2: the let's just go and Ond Vikings at Seahawks, Mark, you. 814 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 1: Got a whole list of stuff. What are you looking 815 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: for in this game? 816 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say when game by game. This way, 817 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 3: I've got them sprinkled throughout. Vikings, I think they sort 818 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: of said no one's going to play, but Jordan Addison, 819 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: the rookie wide out, is someone i'd point to. And 820 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigbuff for the Seahawks. I mean, these 821 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: guys are going to be counted on right away from 822 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: from week one, and especially I just think that Seattle 823 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: like wide receiver group is insane, and I think that 824 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna get like Jackson's gonna I just had this 825 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: feeling the way he looked to me on tape that 826 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 3: he's just gonna step right in and fit with them. 827 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 3: And so if you get a little bit of them 828 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: literally hours from now, I would be excited to see 829 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 3: what they look like. 830 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: He's too good to play in the preseason, I'm a 831 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 4: little disappointed, and some teams do play their starters more. 832 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: And because Pete Carroll has historically done a lot of. 833 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: That right he has. 834 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 4: It's when Russell Wilson won his job. Yep, was really 835 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 4: in the preseason. I'm a little disappointed Devin Witherspoon's had 836 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: a second a hamstring injury. He's their top five pick 837 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: at cornerback, who they picked over Jalen Carter, and so 838 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: he's had one of those camps where he started a 839 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 4: little late because of the contract, then the hamstring, and 840 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: he actually wasn't taking starter snaps for the most part. 841 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 4: And that's maybe it's Pete Carroll making him earn it, 842 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 4: but he's playing inside. It just one of those things 843 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 4: that could already fast forward to next year and here 844 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 4: deb had some Devin Witherspoon puffy saying like I never 845 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: really fully caught. So I'd like, because I'm really excited 846 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: about him. I'm excited about that secondary, excited about that 847 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: that defense. But I don't know if we'll see much 848 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: of him in the preseason. 849 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ Dallas, you would think is going to get 850 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 2: a good run here potentially with all the injury Seattle 851 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: has in. Yeah, Smith and Jigba hits the ground running, 852 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: and Lockett has been as underrated as any receiver the 853 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: last ten years. And of course metcalf Is I think 854 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: is a superstar. As long as Gino doesn't create here, 855 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna score points. 856 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: They're gonna do very well. Their turnaround to like less 857 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: than a year. 858 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 4: Stroud is the is the headliner for the Thursday night 859 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 4: games that we get to see Stroud because it according 860 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: to xens at pats right the reporters there, he started 861 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: camp a little slower like like most rookies do, and 862 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: has really come on and trading camp, I mean preseasons 863 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 4: for rookies, and so him in Tank Dell. Tank Dell 864 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 4: is the third round pick. Kind of that shifty slot 865 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 4: receiver Mold getting wide open like that. 866 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: That should be fun to watch. 867 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 2: On the Patriots side of things, what are we seeing 868 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: mac Jones today? 869 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 4: I don't think so he is. They never say ahead 870 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: of time all the you. 871 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: Know, we didn't dwell on it too much. 872 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: But any speculation through the spring and into early summer 873 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: about the Bailly Zapi Mac Jones QB battle, there is 874 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: no battle. 875 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is the guy. He's getting the first team reps. 876 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 2: I would say, if Jones isn't playing a lot, Zappi 877 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: is gonna get some playing time. It is an opportunity 878 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: to put a bug in Belichick's ear, you know, if 879 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: he lights up a bunch of practice squad guys and 880 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 2: future FedEx stra ZAPPI, Yeah, Zapi. 881 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 3: I think Belichick Gordy has a bit of a Zappi fascinating, right, 882 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: So yeah. 883 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for him to further dig into 884 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 2: that infatuation. 885 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean I would I would play Mac Jones. I 886 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: mean it's series or two because like they used to, 887 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 3: Tom Brady would roll out during the preseason more than 888 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: you'd think, right, I fould have said, I have no 889 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: idea if he's played right, we'll see if this is 890 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 3: a new offense. In theory, it's been corrected a lot. 891 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: But like the reports out of New England, especially at 892 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 3: like that very thin, unelegant UH wide RECEI position, have 893 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: been kind of disastrous. So it's like, what are we 894 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: holding Mac Jones back for? Like it's like that it 895 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: doesn't get hurt well, sure, but like at some point, 896 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I would just they gotta get this thing 897 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 3: going with Ben Deminton, who's healthy on the line, I 898 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 3: think I think they'd say play two quarters. I think 899 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: they've they've seen their offense kind of come to life 900 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: two over the last week. 901 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 4: That's the thing. You get so fixated. It's crazy to 902 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 4: take much away from those non padded practices. To Mario Douglas, 903 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 4: is that how you say his name, an undrafted rookie 904 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 4: smells like a patriotsy guy that he might be their 905 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 4: starting slot receiver. They might have an undrafted guy playing 906 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 4: a lot of snaps, so he is someone where the 907 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: preseason matters for him. They had a second rounder last year, 908 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: Taekwon Thornton they got all excited about, and he might 909 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: already be passed by this undrafted kid. 910 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: Douglas, You're right about Belichick and the Patriots being unpredictable. 911 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: I kind of remember vaguely, like year fifteen for Brady 912 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: or around there, him playing with the first team off 913 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: out until like the second half. Oh yeah, yeah, just 914 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: letting it rip. 915 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: And it's now with the three weeks, so it's also 916 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 4: unpredictable which weeks starters will play because there's less and 917 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of teams aren't using that 918 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 4: third week that actually some might use the first and 919 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 4: second week almost as what used to be the second 920 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 4: and third week, Like those are the kind of the 921 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 4: two main weeks. So every team approaches it a little differently, 922 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 4: depends if you had the joint practices, like, for instance, 923 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: the Jets Panthers second joint practice got rained out, and 924 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, you wonder if they might play a 925 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 4: little more starters. 926 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: I doubt Aaron Rodgers. 927 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 4: Is playing, but maybe Bryce Young plays a little more 928 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 4: because they didn't get that second joint. 929 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: They seem to like those practices so much more because 930 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: you can work with the other coach to set up 931 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: what you actually want to do. 932 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: We're in a game, like you a little more control. 933 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you may not get to the red zone in 934 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: a game with the people you want to have there. 935 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: Let's move to Friday Jummon at Detroit lines from Ford Field, 936 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: I would say from the Giant side of things, we 937 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 2: all know Darren Waller is going to be they hope 938 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: will be the focal point kind of their passing attack 939 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 2: and their red zone offense. They have a bunch we've 940 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 2: talked about on the show, just a bunch of guys, 941 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: A wide receiver and if I'm a Giants fan, you 942 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: know we're looking at Isaiah Hodgkins, Darius Slayton, Paris Campbell, 943 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt a rookie, Sterling Shepherd's there, Wandell Robinson even 944 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 2: though he's on the pup list right now. You want 945 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 2: some of these guys to kind of establish a role 946 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 2: or find themselves and be able to put together an offense. 947 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: We just saw Connie Fox outside. I waived her to 948 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 4: come in, so we'll see if that happens. So sometimes 949 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: it's like about who does and doesn't play in the preseason, 950 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 4: but the reports in camp. 951 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 3: I think Hodgens is a starter. 952 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 4: I think Jalen Hyatt, their third round rookies, had a 953 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 4: nice game, and I think Paris Campbell might have wormed 954 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 4: his way into playing time there. So basically, all the 955 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 4: guys who have been around, like Sterling Shepherd and Wanda 956 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 4: like they might be getting left. 957 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: But I want to see Jamison Crowders in that camp. 958 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: Is that true? 959 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 3: He is there as well. 960 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 4: Cole Beasley's there, Like they're not gonna need those guys 961 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 4: if the Paris Campbell's and the Jalen Hyatts end up performing. 962 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: Eric, can you give your head said to Connie, say hello, yeah. 963 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: I'm one that like waved her forward. Yes, Greg, yes, 964 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: the job. I'm just saying it. You did a great job. 965 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 3: It seems like, uh, she didn't want to come. 966 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 7: This is not great for the hair. Right now, it's. 967 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, how are you, Colleen? 968 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 7: I'm great? 969 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: Are you? 970 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 7: I just got back from Seattle last night. 971 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 1: You loved it there. 972 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,959 Speaker 3: You suggested you might not leave. 973 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 7: I love Seattle. 974 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: They put you on Puget Sound. 975 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 7: Over there Lake Washington that looks tranquil. 976 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: Is that a real lake? Because you say George Washington 977 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: might not be real? What about Lake Washington? 978 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean it depends what mental state and where Connie 979 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: was and what she was doing. 980 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 8: Well, I was working, so I was in a very 981 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 8: straight lace state. But it was still superla what reality 982 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 8: got it got it? 983 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 7: Miss you guys. Great to see you. 984 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: Great to see you. What do you got going on 985 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: right now? 986 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 7: I'm here to just do the double header today? 987 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh beautiful? 988 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 989 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: You got any any take? 990 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: We just hit on the two games and he takes. 991 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 7: I can't prepare. We went home at ten o'clock last night. 992 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 3: We were thorough for five weeks. 993 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 4: Did you did you have a I saw you gave 994 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 4: Pete Carroll like a pair of you know, air Carrols 995 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: or whatever air monarchs. 996 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 8: So Pete Carroll gave us Bucky and I Bucky got 997 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 8: some monarchs because Pee Carroll gave the whole team monarchs, 998 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 8: but they didn't have monarchs in my size, so they 999 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 8: gave me some air maxes. 1000 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: What is your shoes? 1001 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 7: I'm a six and a half in women, so I 1002 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 7: can fit in a five youth Like, what is. 1003 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 2: That in the range of women's shaking your head in 1004 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: smaller stun disbelief that a foo could be that small. 1005 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's great. 1006 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 8: I can I can buy boys shoes, so they're cheaper, 1007 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 8: so jays are and like more availability. 1008 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: To Yeah, that's good. That's good. 1009 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 7: It's great, so good times. 1010 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well, Connie, thank you for this one. 1011 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 7: I've said it all. 1012 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: You've said it all, and it's good. 1013 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 2: Your your my Hard Knocks co host and we're gonna 1014 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: be together in studio on Tuesday. We got to get 1015 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: and if we can get you in on ATM next week. 1016 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm available. There you go, Okay, bye? 1017 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 3: All right for well to check. 1018 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 4: Her out on the NFL network. I mean we did 1019 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 4: extra promo. 1020 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I definitely in the clear. 1021 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 3: We had a corporate meeting that started two minutes ago, 1022 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: and we're just sticking it to the corporals because we're 1023 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 3: still here at doing this bang. 1024 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 4: I had two corporate meetings at the exact same time scheduled. 1025 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 1026 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 2: So we talked about the Giants, anything, guys on the 1027 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: Detroit side that you're looking. 1028 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 3: For, Sam Laporta, who has been like the rave reviews 1029 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: all camp. I don't know how much we'll see of them, but. 1030 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay, this is the most uninspiring quarterback 1031 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: competition since. 1032 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: What's the Chief's hard knock season? You remember those guys Brody. 1033 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 4: Coyle and yeah that's Tyler? Think Ben was that? 1034 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: Iggy? 1035 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 3: Was that one? Or was Castle in there? There's Matt 1036 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 3: Castle and Brady Quinn one year but you both you 1037 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 3: knew it was over for both. 1038 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 4: It's a tough one when you sign Baker to a 1039 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: one year, three million dollar contract, which is like less 1040 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 4: than good backups make. But then he's your favorite to 1041 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 4: start Week one. Problematic, I feel like he has a chance. 1042 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 4: I also I actually feel like if John Walford had 1043 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 4: a huge preseason, like it will increase the chances that 1044 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 4: we see John Walford playing NFL football. 1045 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: This inch me, uh, let's move on to Green Bay. 1046 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: At Cincinnati, well, I don't know what we'll how much 1047 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 2: we'll see of Jordan Love, but I mean that's these playing. 1048 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 3: There's that. I mean, there's the Bengals are just probably 1049 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 3: they've been practicing against each other the past couple of 1050 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 3: days and they've been intense practices where a couple guys 1051 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: got kicked out of practice for fighting. And you know, 1052 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love reports in general that he's been sort of 1053 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 3: up and down, that he's like in those scrimmages there 1054 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: was a lot of sort of conservative play and checkdowns 1055 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: and stuff. So I want to see how they use him. 1056 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 4: He's playing, I mean, and I think he'll play at 1057 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 4: least the first two weeks of preseason, maybe all three. 1058 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 4: They have so many rookies that matter on a team 1059 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: that I think actually will matter this year, that they 1060 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 4: are one of the teams to watch I think in 1061 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 4: the preseason. Like Jaden Reid it sounds like is going 1062 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 4: to be their slot receiver. 1063 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 3: He's a rookie. 1064 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 4: Why am I spacing on the guy that I'm not 1065 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 4: totally must crave Their tight end, rookie tight end has 1066 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 4: had a big training camp, so they those guys will 1067 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 4: be out there, and like the Bengals, I do wonder 1068 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 4: if their backup quarterbacks continue to play like you would 1069 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 4: expect Jake Browning and Trevor Simons play. It's like, what 1070 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 4: are we doing here? You're trying to win a super Bowl? 1071 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 4: You're really gonna be one heartbeat away from Jake Brownie 1072 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 4: and Trevor Simeon. Like I think if they struggle in 1073 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 4: the preseason, they might start kicking the cans on who's 1074 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 4: out the same. It's like a famous or a Carson. 1075 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: Hey, you on a second. 1076 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, but if Joe, if something 1077 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: happened to Joe, Bro's over any But I'm saying, like, 1078 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who you get off the it does. 1079 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 4: Because if you misses two or three weeks and the 1080 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 4: difference between Jameis Winston and Carson Wentz and freaking Jake Browning, 1081 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 4: it's like you got no chance with Jake brown You 1082 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 4: throw Wentz or Winston or someone like that. 1083 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 2: On a I thought you meant more like a long 1084 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: term affair. You call it, Matt Ryan, But you're right, 1085 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 2: you should have something. We'll get to Winston because that 1086 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: jumped out to me. And doing some reading this morning. 1087 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 1088 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 2: The Packers thing, by the way, just the theory, because 1089 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of positive buzz around love and 1090 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is Packers fans trying 1091 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: to kind of will this into a happy outcome for 1092 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 2: the team at a time when Aaron Rodgers is on 1093 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: this wild honeymoon romp with the Jets that features no 1094 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 2: absolutely zero carnal boundaries. 1095 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 4: It is a crazy Arnold boundary. Yeah, I see what 1096 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 4: he's saying. It's it's like the best honeymoon period ever. 1097 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: Like they're not leaving the room, the Jets and Aaron 1098 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: Rodgers right now, and it's like, well the Packers, like 1099 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: I love you so much, Jordan love We're not going 1100 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: anywhere either. 1101 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1102 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 3: But there was a there was to get a report 1103 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 3: that like finally Aaron Rodgers got agitated at his at 1104 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 3: his teammates and some of them, wow, well you know 1105 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: he's been really kind and patient with but it's you know, 1106 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: can turn a little bit. So maybe they one of 1107 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 3: them did leave the room. 1108 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: It gives me a Rogers on TV is a lot 1109 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: there you go, So they could cross that off the list. 1110 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 3: Oh okay, it gives me t O and Philly vibes. 1111 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 4: When to arrived in Philly, it was like the greatest 1112 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 4: honeymoon period ever and it and it remained that way 1113 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 4: for an entire year. That's kind of It's kind of 1114 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 4: what I expected. 1115 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 2: Uh, Atlanta at Miami. How much were we going to 1116 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: see a be John Robinson Miami? That's what everyone's excited about. 1117 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 2: I think this is this is like the Falcons. There's 1118 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 2: something about them right now that's exciting. 1119 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 4: I think Ritter might might play some I'm curious Dave 1120 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 4: Devon a chain the running back, rookie running back for 1121 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 4: the Dolphins, because as we mentioned kind of with Wes 1122 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 4: at the top of the show, I feel like rookie 1123 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 4: running backs you can't see it. Practice reports on running 1124 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 4: backs just don't matter. But this is where like those 1125 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 4: mid round guys, and there's a there's a few in 1126 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 4: this class, uh that I want to see this weekend. 1127 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 2: You know, I like the Falcons better this year than 1128 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 2: the last two years, right, but I did. I was 1129 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 2: at the barbershop on Saturday and I looked up and 1130 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: the TV had Desmond Ridder practice reel and then underneath 1131 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 2: it his his numbers in the final four four starts 1132 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: of the season, he threw for seven hundred and fifty 1133 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns and four starts. I thought he 1134 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: got better during those four I know that's such a 1135 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,479 Speaker 2: small sample sizing two random stats, but I mean, wasn't 1136 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 2: exactly a light in the world on fire. 1137 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: And now he's the unquestioned Q. 1138 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 4: I went back and watched those you know how many 1139 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 4: interceptions he had zero. 1140 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 3: Zero, and they talked about very accurate during this campus. 1141 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't know seem to love him. I mean, I know, 1142 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 3: I just wonder if there's some convincing going on in 1143 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 3: that building as well. That's all they also could runs 1144 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 3: think it's like we're not going to learn too much quarterbacks. 1145 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 4: It's fun to watch, but that's where I think the 1146 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 4: preseason can get a little fake. Sometimes like Bordos pops. 1147 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 4: Sometimes some pretty great rookie quarterbacks have struggled in preseason. 1148 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: Washington, do you have anything else from Miami side of things? 1149 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 2: Washington at Cleveland, we're gonna see you'd like to see 1150 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: if you're the commander, especially after that story slash non 1151 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,919 Speaker 2: story around you know, Eric the enemy is too mean. 1152 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: You'd like to see Sam Howe go out there and 1153 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 2: lead a scoring driver too, just to get some good 1154 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: vibes in that building about what their quarterback situation is 1155 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: right now. And you know, I don't I would imagine 1156 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: that in general, very few established qbs are gonna play 1157 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: snap in these silly games. But like Deshaun Watson, it 1158 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 2: would make sense for him to get as many reps 1159 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: as possible. 1160 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 3: There was some reporting that he'd play a little bit. 1161 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: He's one guy that I would think it makes a 1162 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: lot of sense based on his underwhelming clothes last season he. 1163 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 3: Played last preseason. I mean, I think you got to 1164 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 3: like this again. This is another one of these teams 1165 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 3: where if it's if you're like, you know, Russell Wilson, 1166 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 3: like get out there and play, like take some of this. 1167 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: A kind of fun. 1168 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 2: He had just signed that huge contract. Why did he 1169 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 2: even play in the preseason last year? If he was 1170 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: going to disappear for twelve weeks? Like, what was the 1171 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 2: point of that other than risking a blown ACL It's 1172 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 2: their centerpiece. 1173 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 1174 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, are they making good decisions the. 1175 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: Well? Was it? Yeah? 1176 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 2: Denver at Arizona, go ahead, I got I got a 1177 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: take on the Broncos in this one. 1178 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: This one matters to me. 1179 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,959 Speaker 4: Well, this game matters to me because it's it's time 1180 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 4: for the Clayton Tune Express to start cranking it up. 1181 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 4: I mean, we got a chance to have a fifth 1182 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 4: round rookie possibly start Week one. That's outrageous. I gotta 1183 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 4: think it's Colt McCoy, but maybe it's Clayton Tune. And 1184 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 4: this reminds me. I actually brought in a gift today 1185 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 4: was that the Last Bookstore Downtown. Los Angeles are a 1186 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 4: city home to one. 1187 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: Of the world's great bookstores. 1188 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: Last bookstore. 1189 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 4: Really good classic and I saw in the sports section 1190 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 4: the nineteen Actually I don't know when this was released, 1191 00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 4: the twenty eleven classic Growing Up Cult by Colt McCoy 1192 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: and Brad McCoy with Mike Yorkley, a father, a son, 1193 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 4: a life in football. Just think of the wisdom you 1194 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 4: can get from well, twelve years ago. 1195 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 3: I assume you're not gonnit. This is from Mark so 1196 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 3: number one. That's really nice. Appreciate that about like in 1197 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: twenty or twelve or so. 1198 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 2: Look at his open Look at his I'm a good 1199 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 2: old boy with my damn shirt. 1200 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: No book wrote it with his dad. 1201 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 3: I've actually read this book. 1202 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: Is that a John already read it. 1203 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: I read it when it came out, and so I wait, 1204 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 3: this is this is an incredible get to white like 1205 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 3: the Five. It's one of the It's one of the 1206 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 3: reasons that I named my son Colt, because it's really 1207 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 3: actually a good book if you're a dad. But secondly, 1208 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 3: I was at a Browns bar once, had the book 1209 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 3: with me and gave it to a Browns fan who 1210 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 3: I thought i'd see the next week, and he never 1211 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: showed up again. So I've not had the book for 1212 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 3: a decade, and now you that's really nice. 1213 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 4: I got to take it back that you had already 1214 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 4: read it. 1215 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, I'm gonna put on my bookshelf. 1216 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 2: I got a feeling and I'm passing no judgment, but 1217 00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 2: just just the vibe. 1218 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Jesus stuff in that one. 1219 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 3: It's they are a religious family. There's no doubt. 1220 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 1: I love football, I love family. 1221 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: I love my John Deere truck that I put on 1222 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 2: the cover of my book on Jesus Christ. 1223 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 3: But they kind of raised him to be kind of 1224 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 3: a you know, a tough kid out of the gate and. 1225 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: Stuff I want growing up. Colt Sessler. I want that one. 1226 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 3: That's gonna be a while. That's that novel comes out 1227 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 3: about fourteen years from now, and there could be some 1228 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 3: there could be. 1229 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 4: I mean, he's about the same age as Colt McCoy 1230 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 4: was when this book came out. There is always something 1231 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 4: funny to me about, like biography as of a twenty 1232 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 4: one year old. 1233 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, calm down about that. Uh. 1234 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 2: The the Jared Stidham of it all matters me, just 1235 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 2: because Sean Payton obviously likes him, and maybe Stidham can 1236 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: light up these FedEx drivers and turn a curiosity into 1237 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 2: an obsession for a head coach who's you know, egomaniacal 1238 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 2: and wants to put his stamp on his new team, 1239 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 2: and that would start with the quarterback that I brought 1240 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 2: in when I got here. My take is, I don't 1241 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 2: think we're gonna see Russell Wilson much but or at 1242 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 2: all today or this weekend. But like, I don't know 1243 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: if Russ even realized how much danger he's in. I 1244 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 2: think Russ has to be closer to great than good 1245 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: to stay in this lineup because I think Peyton might 1246 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 2: be in a rush to kind of really start his. 1247 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 3: He's got to be the old Russell Wilson this season. 1248 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 3: I think the experiment my Week six or seven. 1249 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,919 Speaker 2: And my thoughts on the Cardinals. Clayton Tune, I don't care. 1250 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: Jeff driscoll, I don't care. David Blouse, I don't care well. 1251 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 4: The second two David Blau I understand, although we do 1252 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 4: have a co host, uh writing a newsletter about him, 1253 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 4: so that's kind of rude. I don't think there'll be 1254 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 4: factors in the battle. But uh, Clayton Tune, they drafted him, 1255 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 4: he's their guy. 1256 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Chicago. 1257 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 4: You know Chicago, they have a rookie running back Roshan 1258 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 4: Johnson justin Fields is going to play in this game. 1259 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 4: I think he's going to play potentially in all three 1260 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 4: preseason games. 1261 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: So good. 1262 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 1263 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 4: Ros Johnson is one of those guys that, like the 1264 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 4: draftnicks get super excited about and the fantasy heads are like, 1265 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 4: no one else is really there. It's Khalil err but 1266 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 4: they just like pencil him in as a potential starter 1267 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 4: and then you hear like, actually he's not past protecting 1268 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 4: that well in camp and like so that he's one 1269 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 4: of those guys that's like needs to get playing time 1270 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 4: in the preseas. 1271 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 3: I think Tennessee, I want to see will Levis, I mean, 1272 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 3: any of these rookie quarterbacks. It's like, let's watch the 1273 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 3: entire play for what it's worth. 1274 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 4: They're still listing Malik Willis as the backup on those 1275 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 4: depth starts, but those depth stats don't mean much. 1276 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: Nice move by the way, Mike Frable naming DL the 1277 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 2: defensive line coach Trell Williams the acting head coach for 1278 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 2: this game. That does tell you a little bit about 1279 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,959 Speaker 2: how much this game means. 1280 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they should do that. 1281 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: But also a great job by a guy who's trying to, 1282 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: you know, pump up one of his dudes that he 1283 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 2: believes deserves. 1284 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 4: It's funny plot for him because I hear you in 1285 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 4: terms of what it means in the wins and losses, 1286 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 4: and that's right obviously. But whenever, whenever they on hard knocks, 1287 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: like are wired, and this is true all throughout the 1288 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 4: preass like they care so much they get like Aaron 1289 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 4: Roddy was going absolutely nuts just because they're competitors and 1290 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 4: they're playing football and people that they know are literally 1291 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 4: fighting for their livelihoods. Like that, they get super fired 1292 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 4: up for even though in the end. They also know 1293 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 4: that the result sorda doesn't matter. It's like it's a 1294 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 4: fascinating thing. 1295 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: True Indy at Buffalo Anthony Richardson not a surprise, barring injury. 1296 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there is any scenario in which Jim 1297 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: or excuse me, Shane steich In doesn't go with the 1298 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: first round rookie. 1299 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: In week one. 1300 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 3: We're starting this game too. I mean, I think they're. 1301 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 2: You're right, how do you keep What would he have 1302 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 2: to do, like, honestly, would Anthony Richardson it be through 1303 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 2: an interception in every one of these games and didn't 1304 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 2: move the ball. 1305 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: I still think he's starting week one. 1306 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,959 Speaker 3: He'd have to go like a wall for ten days 1307 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 3: and no one knows where he is, and it's like, 1308 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 3: we're not sure we can count this guy. But he's 1309 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 3: not gonna do that. 1310 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 4: Minshe's reportedly, you know, played really well practice. I actually 1311 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 4: think if he was really struggling in practice, if he 1312 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 4: was Zack Wilson as a rookie in practice, I actually 1313 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 4: do think they would be more hesitant. But there hasn't 1314 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 4: been that feel. It sounds like everything is on track 1315 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 4: enough and yeah, he's starting this game. 1316 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 3: That kind of stays and you talked about the Bengals 1317 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 3: backup QB scenario. But like these reports out of Buffalo 1318 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 3: that Kyle Allen and this is not a big surprise 1319 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 3: if you watched much Kyle Allen, like they have a 1320 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 3: serious issue at backup quarterback in Buffalo. That like if 1321 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 3: and you know Josh Allen, the same thing. If Josh 1322 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 3: Allen goes down, check you later. But they could be 1323 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 3: looking around. 1324 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 4: Didn't we see Kyle Allen uh win a football game overseas? 1325 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 4: Only so many quarterbacks have done that. Did they win 1326 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 4: that game? I can't even remember anymore. Jamis through like 1327 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 4: five interceptions in the Panthers. 1328 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, those bad performance, Mark Jonathan Taylor. A wall just 1329 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: clears the runway. Because it's Jake funk season. 1330 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 3: Baby exciting. 1331 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's. 1332 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 4: This is fun. 1333 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: That's good, that is fun. 1334 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 3: This is your time, baby, I mean to speak over 1335 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 3: this music is a tough, tough ad. But I know 1336 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 3: Jake Funky note flamed out with the Rams. Surprisingly, I 1337 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 3: think everyone was surprised that he didn't thrive there and 1338 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 3: everyone everyone, But now I think he's got a whole 1339 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 3: new opportunity. And look at like your star running back 1340 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 3: is obviously a little bit cowed by the idea of 1341 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 3: going up against Jake Vanished practice. 1342 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: Eleven funk seasons. Love those what running back? 1343 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 3: That is not what's happening here in a mondable. 1344 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 4: It's funny with all the budget cuts we could just 1345 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 4: afford such a quality session player back there. 1346 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 2: Just that's actually Eric Light got a keyboard and from 1347 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 2: He's like a guy that went viral on TikTok. He's 1348 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: a New York City guy and he's in his uh 1349 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 2: like his tidy whities in a bathroom rebel a love 1350 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 2: that guy. 1351 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 4: I will give credit to Randy though, He's the one 1352 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 4: he dug for that big. 1353 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Spot. 1354 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 2: For me, not surprising that Randy would be the guy 1355 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 2: that found the. 1356 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Funk that guy. That guy is funk. 1357 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Jets at Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young, Rice Young, and you 1358 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: know he'll be up against the Jets defensive line is 1359 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: pretty wild. They they're deep, they got a lot of 1360 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 2: rotational rushers. I'm excited to see some of these guys, 1361 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 2: including their first round a pick Will McDonald and you 1362 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 2: look good last week too. Tremaine Johnson flashed is the 1363 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 2: first round of last year. He was like the other 1364 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 2: first rounder that was kind of forgotten, but he made 1365 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 2: an impact for them, and he's gonna have a bigger 1366 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: role this year. So those guys, I'm excited to kind 1367 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 2: of see them on the field getting after Young whose 1368 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 2: mobility is part of his game. 1369 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 3: How long do you like play Bryce Young? I think 1370 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 3: that's interesting because like the it's not the old school preseason, 1371 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 3: it's like the holes season. Your whole franchise pivots around 1372 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 3: this guy. Do you not treat him more? 1373 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Like? 1374 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: I want to see him too, because the whole yeah 1375 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 2: thing about his size and everything. Now we're gonna see 1376 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: him in an NFL game kind of with giant offensive 1377 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 2: linemen and huge front seven coming at him, like is 1378 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 2: it is it going to be jarring? Is he gonna 1379 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: Is it gonna be one of those things like with 1380 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Kyler for instance, or it was like, whoa, this guy's 1381 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 2: small as hell. 1382 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: Except his head. Yeah, it'd be like except jes will 1383 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 3: be like that. 1384 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 4: Like Jonathan Mingo was listed as a starter, one of 1385 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 4: my favorite rookie receivers, so they're not wasting any time 1386 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 4: with him. 1387 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Jacksonville at Dallas, we didn't see a lot of Dallas 1388 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: receivers making plays with Ceedee Lamb out of practice on Monday. 1389 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: The guy really I want to see is Michael Gallop, 1390 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 2: but I just don't know what their plan is for him, but. 1391 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Would be interesting to see if he flashes. 1392 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 4: East Vaughn feels very much like a preseason since I 1393 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 4: can see that happening, Tank bi Bigsby. What a name? 1394 01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 4: Tank Bigsby h and could it be a sneaky fantasy 1395 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 4: factor this year? He's almost certainly their backup running back 1396 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 4: in possibly their red zone. Guys had a nice camp 1397 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 4: and I feel like you need someone with Etn. I 1398 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 4: don't want to give Etn three hundred touches, so he's 1399 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 4: someone you don't like that much. I like him fine, 1400 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:17,920 Speaker 4: but I don't think you want to give him three 1401 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 4: hundred touches. I feel like he'd be nice in a 1402 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,959 Speaker 4: in a chair. 1403 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby's real name Cartavius Bigsby. 1404 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 4: That's pretty good, though you should have just kept cartables. 1405 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 3: Tank is not a bad name too. You're so right 1406 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 3: a red zone hammer. 1407 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 2: Duce Vaughn is so the favorite to be preseason MVP 1408 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: because he plays for the Cowboys. They're trying to figure 1409 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 2: out things. His size leads to all that Deuce porn 1410 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 2: as we heard on Monday, he's gonna run for like 1411 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 2: seven hundred yards and that. 1412 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 3: You know, like you get to like to go to 1413 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 3: these practices in person, like you did mention the Bryce 1414 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 3: Young thing, like Douce Vaughan the human being compared to 1415 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 3: everyone else on the field, Like it's a reason to 1416 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 3: watch a Cowboys game alone. 1417 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: You don't see this very Just don't. 1418 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Ask him to pick up a blitz with Dak Prescott 1419 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 2: behind center. 1420 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all. That doesn't go so well with Eagles 1421 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 3: at Baltimore Ravens. How about the Ravens. Uh, you know 1422 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 3: the way they treat the preseason and they're incredible. Oh streak, 1423 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 3: great call, Yeah, the dynasty. 1424 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: What is the streak? What are we up to? 1425 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 2: Let's see Ravens winning three. This is kind of what 1426 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 2: they're known for at this point in their franchise. 1427 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Twenty three straight. Think about this. 1428 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: This is I think unbreakable records in pro sports, Like, 1429 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 2: you know, you throw them. 1430 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Out there, you know, I don't know. 1431 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Joe Diamagia fifty six game hitting streak, twenty three straight 1432 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 2: exhibition games, winning across what five or six years when 1433 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 2: you're not playing your starters, and and there's all sorts 1434 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 2: of things that can happen that that really don't matter 1435 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 2: and would end a game. 1436 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Imagine how many of these games have gone down. 1437 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: Greg to the last couple of plays, because that's just 1438 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 2: how a lot of these preseason games go because nobody ties, 1439 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: so you just start doing crazy stuff and they've won 1440 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: them all. 1441 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 4: The streak is so long I would I would have 1442 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 4: to fact check, but I'm pretty sure Robert Griffin the 1443 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 4: third is like a big part of this streak as 1444 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 4: the Ravens. 1445 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 3: I like how they bring up Dustin Tucker to win 1446 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 3: the close ones. That is wild. 1447 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 4: The Eagles quietly signed a couple veteran linebackers this week, 1448 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 4: Myles Jack and Zach Cunningham. They clearly weren't happy with 1449 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 4: what they were seeing at linebacker. And I've seen some 1450 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 4: reports that Nolan Smith has really had a nice camp 1451 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 4: the rookie and if they've actually played him at off 1452 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 4: ball linebacker a little bit, which is kind of shocking 1453 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 4: because he's such a fast pass rusher, kind of like 1454 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 4: a Hassan Reddick guy. So he's some he's someone to 1455 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 4: watch because he could play a little more than maybe 1456 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 4: he was expected on a on a deep Eagles defense, 1457 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 4: but they're they're searching a little bit at linebacker. 1458 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 3: I would maybe, I mean, with with these reports that 1459 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, Lamar is a little the fuddled in the offense, 1460 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 3: isn't looking that sharp, Like, I don't know, do you not? 1461 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 3: Do you just wait till week one to see how 1462 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,439 Speaker 3: things go with him? 1463 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: We just keep Odell and shrink wrap until September. 1464 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would do that, but I mean, there's something 1465 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 4: about this favorite group. I mean, Rashad Bateman just came 1466 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 4: off pop. I'm afraid Dave Flowers has supposedly been as advertised. 1467 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 2: Raven's just a little more context on this the streak 1468 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 2: the last loss September third, twenty fifteen. 1469 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 4: On that day, twenty fifteen. 1470 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 2: On that day, Ravens star quarterback. This is from Fox Sports. 1471 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson made his debut for the Louisville Cardinals two 1472 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 2: days after that twenty to nineteen defeat to the Falcons 1473 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 2: to finish the twenty fifteen preseason on A three. 1474 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: This game is huge. 1475 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 2: They're laying wood six points to the Eagles, so they're 1476 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 2: they're a pretty heavy favorite. 1477 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 4: And it'd be funny if he continues because they I 1478 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 4: think they play Washington every year. It's just like, you 1479 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 4: know local, why not Belt? It'd be funny if Attle 1480 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 4: at the Belt with RIVERA just was like, I'm sick 1481 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 4: of this freaking streak. I'm sick of and just like 1482 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 4: played all of his starters. 1483 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 2: Sam Just like Sam Howe, you're giving me four quarters 1484 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 2: and forty pass to day, I'm gonna win this game. 1485 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: They lose, right, I guess the quarterback wouldn't be great either, 1486 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 4: But like you play your entire awesome defensive line for 1487 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 4: three quarters, you're calling trick plays. 1488 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Someone should do that. It's time for somebody. It cannot 1489 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: extend through this year. 1490 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,919 Speaker 2: In fact, I might go the other way and route 1491 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 2: against the streak, just for the drama of it. At 1492 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 2: this point, the second longest winning streak, by the way, 1493 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 2: is the Buffalo Bills, who. 1494 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Have won ninth straight. That's a lot too. 1495 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 3: Is that tells you how tough this this Shore would. 1496 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Be a battle. 1497 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,479 Speaker 2: That's so far Chargers at Rams think about in terms 1498 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 2: of energy and electricity. Six Taylor Swift shows in seven nights, 1499 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 2: and then you go straight to the battle for Los 1500 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers Rams preseason. 1501 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 3: It just gets more I'm going to this game, so 1502 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 3: I can't wait game getting paid for that. No, I'm 1503 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 3: gonna go. As for myself, it's rude. You're going with 1504 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 3: your kids, right, I'm. 1505 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Taking them to a different Rams game. 1506 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 3: This one. I am going in a different, different situation. 1507 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 3: But I just want to go see what it's like. 1508 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 4: I've been to I believe I've been to three Rams 1509 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 4: Chargers games since so far is open. Maybe it's only two. 1510 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 4: You know that these are two teams. I don't play 1511 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 4: a lot of starters. Unfortunately, Kyrin Williams is maybe someone 1512 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 4: who watch the back up running back. The Rams are 1513 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 4: gonna have to play more guys that are going to 1514 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 4: be starters because they don't know who their starters are. 1515 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 3: Well, they're kind of if you're a Rams fan, it's 1516 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 3: like it's not it's sort of depressing time a little bit, 1517 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 3: but like you're kind of relearning an entire roster. 1518 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember so many guys. 1519 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 4: Josh Palmer had a big game in this in this 1520 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 4: Battle of l A last year, and you know what 1521 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 4: he ended up having it. 1522 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I'll sell this one. 1523 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any team in the league that 1524 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 2: fashions itself competitive and potentially a playoff team where the 1525 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 2: preseason is more important than it is for Sean McVeigh 1526 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 2: and the Rams to find some bodies on that defense 1527 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 2: and establish some type of cohesively. 1528 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 3: I wonderful get to see people walking around in the 1529 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 3: sh it's with the and and the ambersons like the 1530 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 3: slogan trick if you're on the side. 1531 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's see if they've Let's see if they've 1532 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 4: upgraded the concession situation, because this is the nicest stadium 1533 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 4: in the league. It's beautiful. Can the food's terrible? 1534 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 3: What about the the lady with the axe? Is she 1535 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 3: going to be there? 1536 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Is it that's a RAMS thing or a Chargers thing? 1537 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 2: Well, it's Rams and it's a game, then you got 1538 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 2: you should have her unless she's on tour. 1539 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: She's very successful. 1540 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 3: I don't know if she does preseason though, but she 1541 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 3: would have to start to practice and. 1542 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Get and I would say, Mark, if you're if you're, 1543 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 2: if you're going to the game, which you are, bring 1544 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 2: your shoulder pads. You might like they might be like, 1545 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 2: I need I need a body to get out there, 1546 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 2: and I need a safety. 1547 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I need a free safety. 1548 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 3: Oh if they'd let me in with that kind of stuff. 1549 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 1: I'll bring them in uh chiefs at Saints. 1550 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 2: How about this the Derek Carr goes to New Orleans 1551 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 2: and there he is right right back to playing uh 1552 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 2: Andy Reid in Kansas City and showdown. 1553 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if we'll see him on Sunday. 1554 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 3: We'll see. 1555 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 4: We'll probably see some Jamis. 1556 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 3: They might. 1557 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,719 Speaker 4: I think they might be trying to advert ties Janey. 1558 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 4: If they like Jake Hayner enough their rookie quarterback, and 1559 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 4: if he plays well in the preseason, I feel like 1560 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 4: Winston could be had for a song if anyone is 1561 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 4: out there. 1562 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of that surprised me, but I read Eric 1563 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 2: at Holm, who we just had in the show, did 1564 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 2: a nice kind of ramp up to preseason week one 1565 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 2: on NFL dot Com Check it out, and he noted that, 1566 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's a real battle here for QB two 1567 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 2: and if Winston goes from starting quarterback to can't even 1568 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 2: be the backup. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense 1569 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 2: for a bunch of teams who are looking for a 1570 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 2: guy that has experience in some level of skill. 1571 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 3: It just seemed like this between him and Dennis Allen, 1572 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 3: like last year, things just seem a little weird behind 1573 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 3: the scenes. I'm almost surprised he's even I still there. 1574 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 4: I am very surprised he's still there. Chiefs actually have 1575 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 4: like a decent amount of interesting position battles. We mentioned 1576 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 4: generic Prince Rishie Rice, Rookies justin. 1577 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 2: Ross first, Jake at quarterback since Locker Plumber Locker was 1578 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 2: after Plumber Dell home, Jake alone, Brisket, Cha Kobe, but yeah, 1579 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,040 Speaker 2: he's Jake Brisket. 1580 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it's us anyway. 1581 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 2: Finally San Francisco at Las Vegas. Yeah, there you got Sam. 1582 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 2: This is it, Bud Trey Lance versus Sam Donald. Is 1583 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 2: how I see this? Who's gonna be the backup slash 1584 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 2: waiting in the wings if Rock Party struggles or isn't 1585 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 2: physically right and then hold on tight if you got 1586 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,919 Speaker 2: a chance to play in a game that matters. 1587 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 1588 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 2: And the Trey Lance of it all is remains to 1589 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 2: me intriguing because of his pedigree. 1590 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,759 Speaker 3: And I'm not like I've become almost convinced that Shanahan 1591 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 3: prefers Sam Donald at this point that like I you know, 1592 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 3: not unlike Jameis Winston, is the whole endgame here to 1593 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 3: maybe move Trey Lance because you know, other teams know 1594 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 3: nothing about him, but there's all this potential and like, 1595 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 3: if they're gonna one of them, it could be him. 1596 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 3: But uh, won't see brock Purty. But I'm actually really 1597 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 3: interested to see Sam Darnold after you know, his head 1598 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 3: coach called him a Steve Young look alike in the offense. 1599 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 3: Is that just hyperbole to try to stir up Trey 1600 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 3: Lance or what know? 1601 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 2: You guys would get mad at me when I ever 1602 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 2: even brought him up in recent years. But Kyle Shanahan 1603 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 2: starts talking him up, and now it's like, yeah, but 1604 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 2: we got to see this guy. 1605 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you pair him with Shanahan, you've. 1606 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 2: Gotten Gregg's out here saying that Sam Donald is the 1607 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,560 Speaker 2: biggest bust in the history of the quarterback position in 1608 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 2: the NFL. 1609 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 3: A couple of good movies that. 1610 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 4: I said he was on the list. 1611 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: I never was on the list, but you said he 1612 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 1: was on the list. 1613 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 3: He still is. 1614 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 4: The numbers say it. The numbers say he's been one 1615 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 4: of the very worst quarterbacks in the league since the 1616 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 4: minute he got drafted. And he was a top five pick. 1617 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 4: So what more do you need? 1618 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 2: Because it's not very at some point beyond the just 1619 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 2: the statistics, it's the where he was. 1620 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, you think, like Jimmy Clausen and all these other 1621 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 4: guys that are thought of his huge bus were like 1622 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 4: in great situations. 1623 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,879 Speaker 2: Now, well, I'm just saying in nuance that he actually 1624 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 2: can play. I think he can if he gets the opportunity. 1625 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't think Laston could play no matter where you play. 1626 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 2: I think consistent, but you can see it. 1627 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 4: I think he had a five He had a five 1628 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 4: game stretch last year that was easily better than any 1629 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 4: five game stretch of his career where he looked like 1630 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 4: a decent backup. 1631 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: Well, I hope he gets a job and I hope 1632 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: he sticks it. 1633 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 4: Well, his numbers will be great. Nick Mullins, you know, 1634 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 4: has has like a higher yards per attempt to start 1635 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 4: his career than any quarterback in NFL history. It's like 1636 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 4: you walk out of the get out of bed with 1637 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 4: the eight yards per attempt in this offense. 1638 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of I'd mentioned that last week. 1639 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't know whoever is the quarterback this offense is 1640 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 2: going to be good, but Steve Young that throws righty, 1641 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 2: so it's like, maybe go with him. 1642 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 4: Sam Donald, I always said was why couldn't he be 1643 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 4: another Steve Young, which is like, yeah, why couldn't have 1644 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 4: already four or five years into his career. It was 1645 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 4: a little like people didn't think of Steve. 1646 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 2: You know, given how easy it is quarterback to thrive 1647 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 2: in this offense, makes Sam Donald throw lefty, really make 1648 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 2: him Steve Ye? 1649 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: Sure? 1650 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,560 Speaker 3: Well, Steve Young was also kicking butt in the USFL. 1651 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't like he had right. 1652 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 4: In the and the forty nine ers actually gave up 1653 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 4: I believe a lot for Steve Young, whereas Sam Darnold 1654 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,599 Speaker 4: was freely available for low price. 1655 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: I'll give you something freely available, all right. That's it. 1656 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 2: So we'll be back on Monday with kind of a 1657 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 2: look back at all all of these games and uh. 1658 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see what we could take from them. 1659 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna step into the competition cauldron on Monday. I'm 1660 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,759 Speaker 4: excited for exactly. 1661 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 2: Also, big week, Big week coming up. Why Fantasy Extravaganza 1662 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,679 Speaker 2: coming up next week? 1663 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Right? 1664 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 1665 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 1: I thought we moved it up to Wednesday. Yeah, I 1666 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 1: missed that. 1667 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 3: A lot of guests, a lot of guests, bigger summar. 1668 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Reason. 1669 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,919 Speaker 4: I thought it was the following week. 1670 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Well originally was, and then we kind of said, maybe, 1671 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 2: will set it up to make sure we give as 1672 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 2: many people the chance to listen to it before the draft. 1673 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 2: So we we we have that show coming up with 1674 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 2: a bevy of high end, top tier guest. 1675 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 1: Greg. 1676 01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: You you helped build Rotal World, brick by brick. We're 1677 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to reach out to some heavy, heavy hitters. 1678 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 2: We got some big dogs in house with NFL media. 1679 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 2: That's coming up on Wednesday. 1680 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 4: Uh, Andy, I should call my buddy Chris, Chris Johnson 1681 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 4: see if he's available. 1682 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 1: He was on a magazine cover Best Friends, that Greg guy. 1683 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: He was different. 1684 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,680 Speaker 3: I like that trip balladated. 1685 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,560 Speaker 1: He the call