WEBVTT - Listener Mail: SB-129 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.520 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.840 Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. Listener mail. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.840 My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, and 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:17.880 it's Monday, the day of each week that we read 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.040 back messages that you have sent in to the Stuff 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.759 to Blow Your Mind email address, which, by the way, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.800 you should give a try if you never have before. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.200 We always appreciate feedback to recent episodes, especially if you 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.080 have something interesting you would like to add to a 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.640 topic we've talked about. You can reach us at contact 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.840 at stuff to Blow your Mind dot com. Let's see 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.920 rob do you mind if I kick things off today? 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:48.159 With this message from Daniel in response to our series Well, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.680 this was in response to our series on stickiness, but 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.680 specifically the episode where we talked about sticky memories. Yeah, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.040 let's do it, okay, and for context. In the Sticky 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.920 Memories episode, we talked about the idea of flash bulb memories, 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:09.800 these memories that have a subjectively highly sticky quality to them. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.120 People many years later will report these types of experiences 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:19.319 with confidence that they have very detailed, accurate memories, and 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:23.319 specifically flash bold memories are about the moment that a 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.920 person learned about a public event, often like a tragedy 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.480 of some kind, like the moment somebody learned about the 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.040 Kennedy assassination or the moment somebody learned about nine to eleven. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:39.560 People very often report that they have detailed and very consistent, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.360 accurate memories about what was going on when they found 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.000 out where they were and all that, and studies have 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.280 shown Nope, they don't. They just think that they do. We, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.840 for some reason, are especially convinced that these memories are 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.400 authentic and unchanging. But you can show that they're not. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:02.120 So. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.400 Daniel says Hi in regard to your episode about sticky memories. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.079 The unreliability of some of the details of these memories 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:15.040 was of extreme interest for me, as I have recorded 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.560 proof of some of these in my personal life, that is, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.120 family events recorded on video and then years later compared 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.520 to my memory of this event, having never seen the 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:31.200 video until now, and noting the profound differences parentheses. I 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.440 apologize for my possible poor writing skills, as I have 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.160 autism and do not express myself well. It takes extreme 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.519 effort to generate even this well. We appreciate the effort Daniel, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.399 think you're doing great, Daniel says. One event I will 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.960 describe now. The memory I have is this. It's two 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.320 thousand and four. I'm playing with the first solid state 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.440 memory based video camera I ever had. I met my 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.760 grandmother's place. My Auntie and I pressure cleaning the back 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.080 pavement of her house. It's a crisp, cool, coldish, late 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.320 winter's breezy day. The splashing water from the pressure cleaner 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.760 feels lovely on my legs. I'm a person who hates 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.120 hot weather, and so this is a particularly nice memory 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.400 for this reason. All this time I am recording the 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.440 event on the camera. This memory persisted for years and 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.720 still does. However, how shocked I was two years later 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.680 come across the original camera footage actual event as recorded. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.480 I was pressure cleaning with my auntie at my grandmother's place, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.560 washing the back pavement. But it was a stinking hot 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.600 summer's day, and in the video I was wishing it 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.600 was a much cooler winter's day. I was imagining how 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.000 much nicer it would be to feel the cold splashes 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:57.480 along with the coldish late winter breeze. The original event, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.560 plus my wishful alteration to the event, was fused into 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:06.080 one memory event. How many of our memories actually appear 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.920 more favorable than they actually were because we included any 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:15.440 wishful changes in the memory. Eg. At a wedding a 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.719 lovely time, but wish Uncle John could be here. In 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.320 our memory Uncle John is there, but proven wrong by 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.359 the wedding video. This has happened a lot in my life, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.719 as I have recorded heaps of it since I was 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.800 in primary school. Maybe this is one of the reasons 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.160 the past can seem so much better than the present. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.400 The past has been edited by our minds in post 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.480 production to be better, and is only picked up if 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.640 we record it with technology as well and compare it. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.679 I would never have realized the inaccuracy of the pressure 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:50.560 cleaner event if I hadn't recorded it as well. Cheers Daniel. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.159 Oh well, yeah, thank you for the excellent message, Daniel. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.400 And yeah, I think it's amazing when people have experiences 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.440 like this. I know my family didn't do a lot 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.799 of home movies, but my wife's family did some home movies, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.240 and I think she's talked about experiences like this, like 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.440 remembering something one way but then seeing it on video 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.880 and oh, it happened a different way and being so 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.560 surprised by that. But I think there's something very perceptive 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.400 to what you're saying about the idea of you think 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.920 that the day you were out there with the pressure cleaner, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.640 feeling the water on your legs and wishing it was 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.960 a cool day may have contaminated your memory in such 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.839 a way that you remembered it as being a cool day. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.520 I think that could very well be a mechanism in play. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.480 And there is evidence I've read about before of the 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.560 ability of the imagination to contaminate memories of events. So, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.960 for example, if you intentionally imagine yourself doing something, there 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.200 is often a good chance you will later remember actually 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:59.200 doing that thing. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:01.880 Yeah, and of course you have to keep in mind 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.320 that you know it need not be a beneficial enhancer 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.560 of memory. I mean, you can certainly have cases where 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.680 a memory is made more traumatic through recollection. You know it, 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.840 you know it's ultimately Again, it comes back to the 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.520 fact that anytime we draw that memory out of the vault, 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.080 we augment it in small ways, and that can go 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.480 in either direction subjectively. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.039 Right, So maybe if instead of sitting there thinking about 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.560 how nice it would be if it were a cool day, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.920 you had been thinking about how much worse it would 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.880 be if it were like one hundred and fifteen degrees outside. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.960 Maybe you would actually remember it that way. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.160 Yeah, but again, this is another great insight into just 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:48.279 how curious memory is and how susceptible to change it is. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.600 Obviously, when I said one fifteen, I'm operating on the 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.760 inferior fahrenheit scale, I don't think it would be one 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.240 hundred and fifteen celsius out. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.520 All right, here's another listener male for us. This one 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.240 has to do with our series of episodes on strange 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:09.960 underwater photos and other images that are of questionable quality. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:18.000 This one comes to us from Wait, Hi, Rob, Joe, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.640 and JJ. Thanks for the episodes on mysterious underwater photographs 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.600 and the psychological explanations involving low resolution information, where the 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.440 lack of detail seems to encourage the human mind to 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.520 come up with more fanciful explanations, while a higher resolution 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.360 image would have the opposite effect no gaps to fill in. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.560 This made me think of HFR, or high frame rate 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.720 video content aka soap opera effect, which is higher than 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.680 the traditional twenty four frames per second. I've always wondered 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.640 why this feature is universally hated in movies and TV. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.640 I think the low resolution principle may be working here 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.360 in reverse. We want there to be some mystery and 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.720 gaps to fill in when we are engaging with fiction, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.120 so we can feel more like an active participant, even 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.080 though there may not be anything substantial we are actually 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.720 missing with normal film speed. Maybe our brains are translating 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.360 the lower bandwidth into a sense of mystery, which is 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.840 more enjoyable and engaging than the sterile, seeming high bandwidth 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.040 HFR version. Keep up the great work way. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.080 Wayne, That is a really interesting idea. I don't know 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.040 if I think that that's correct or not, but I 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:31.800 can certainly agree that the high frame rate experience is 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.920 not one that feels very magical to me. And even worse, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.680 I think, are the I don't even know technically what's 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.360 going on here, but the sort of you know, the 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.040 digital simulations of it with like the it's called different 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:48.480 things on different TVs, but the cursed motion smoothing effect 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.480 that comes as turned on by default, and a lot 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:56.640 of new televisions just looks abysmal. Awful movies look terrible 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.400 with this thing on. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.640 Yeah, it's it can be quite an experience I was. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.040 I was with my family and we were staying with 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.200 my wife's uncle and aunt, and you know, we were 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.200 staying at somebody's house. You don't want to go necessarily 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:14.720 messing around with other people's TV settings. Some folks don't 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.600 like that, and they don't mind showing you. Sorry it 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.319 laughs into a Texas chainsaw mESC A quote there, But 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.360 the point is still the same. It's it may be 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:27.600 impolite to mess around with someone's TV settings. So Uncle 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.480 and Ann had gone to bed. We decided to watch 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.720 Black Panther, of you know, spectacular special effects laden film 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.360 with some great performances in it as well some high drama. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.720 But we had to face the fact are we going 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.080 to keep watching it in this strange format or are 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.520 we going to just go to bed early? We decided 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.840 to watch the whole film and it was still It 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.240 was still great. You know, a film like that I 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.440 think can take the visual ding. But it was weird. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.720 It was like watching like an old school Doctor Who 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:01.480 episode instead of like the sleek Marvel Cinematic Universe film 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:01.960 that it is. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.160 I don't know if i've I may have told the 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.240 story on the podcast before. If so, apologies, but one 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:11.400 time my wife and I started watching a significant chunk 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.040 of the first Lord of the Rings film with the 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.640 motions moothing on and a TV in a different place, 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.400 and wooh boy, I mean, how to really suck the 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.760 mystery and magic out of that prologue site with the 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.200 seal door and the you know, the Wargan saur on 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.080 and all that. It takes like the swirling mist and 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.840 haze of mythology and turns it into just kind of 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.520 like a hokey smudge. Everything looks so cheap and fake. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.920 Wow. I mean, this is why you see some filmmakers 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:46.720 and actors railing against it. You know, it's it kind 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.440 of you know, it disrupts the way that the art 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.760 is supposed to be immuted and appreciated. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.200 Now, to be fair, I think we have somewhat strayed 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.320 from because Wayne was talking about high frame rate video 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.000 content or high frame rate film. I don't know what 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.800 the exact technical relationship of that to the motion smoothing 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.840 effect on the TVs is, but I will say it 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.120 feels similar whatever is going on in these cases. I 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.679 don't know if there is significant overlap technically. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.920 But the basic point about enhanced detail, taking away from immersion. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.040 You do see that at times. You see it in 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.480 cases we've talked about in Weird House cinema before, where 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.000 there may be a wire visible, or a velcro a 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.439 velcros strap, or a zipper visible on a monster that 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.559 would not have been visible, and say the VHS age. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.839 But now and with restore, you know, some of these 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.160 glorious restored editions we have, sometimes you get to see 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.120 the seams a little more than was intended. And I 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.560 understand it makes some of those old effects folks kind 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.720 of WinCE at times because they're like, I was never 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.800 meant to be seen like this, and yet now it is. Well. 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.640 But when I see a wire or a zipper today, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.599 I find that charming. I mean, that's just lovely. I 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.280 do not feel that about the act of taking a 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:06.160 Grand tolkienesque battle scene and turning it into a soap opera. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.640 Yeah. Yeah. Another example that comes to mind is sometimes 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.040 you'll be watching a period piece, you know, maybe it's 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.920 a medieval saga, and one of the heroes or villains 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.640 you know, gets a nice close up and they yell 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.000 something and when their mouth is open, you get to 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.760 see all of their dental work. All of their modern 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.199 don't work, and you know that might there might be 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.640 a case to be made there. It's like we were 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.760 never meant to see everything inside this actor's mouth with 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.080 perfect clarity. And you know, I'm not saying it ruins 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.480 a film or anything, but you know, for a split 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.360 second you're like, oh, oh, I see those feelings there, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:42.240 medieval Warrior. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.840 But so, to come back to Wayne's idea, I guess 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.480 the question would be, is that because part of the 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.040 magic of cinema relies on like the el tanna and 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:58.280 antenna effect, that like you're seeing some kind of something 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.440 is lower resolution, or some kind of information is missing 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.760 and part of the fun of watching cinema is letting 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.640 your mind fill in those gaps, or it is the 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.840 cause something else. Is there a different reason that we 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.440 prefer the look of the you know, traditional lower frame rate. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:26.720 Yeah, these are great questions. All right, Well, you know 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.320 I think up next, Joe, it's time for our favorite 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.120 section of listener mail. It's time for a little more 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:32.600 tea talk. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:34.920 All right, Well, I can read this one if you want, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:36.600 but you're gonna have to comment on it because you're 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.080 the tea guy. Okay, you're the t man between us. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:40.640 So. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.440 This is from Susan on the Facebook discussion module. Susan says, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.360 how did I not comment on Lapsong souchong before? I 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.120 feel like I did. It's just lost to time. AnyWho 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.920 Lapsong souchong is delicious. I'm not a fan of barbecue, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.480 so I wouldn't call it that, but it definitely is 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.480 smoky all get out, or at least it should be. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.959 I had to give it up, though, because my father 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.440 refuses to not make fun of the smell and I 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.120 got tired of it. I finally found a pooerr that 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.120 I've liked, which is exciting because all the others I've 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:19.520 tried have one percent tasted like boiled leather shoes. I 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.240 remember forcing myself to drink my way through a box 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.640 of it because I don't like to waste things, but 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.640 for some reason, I try again every few years. I 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.160 think the one I tried recently was a chocolate one, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.680 and I guess my brain went chocolate shoe leather yum. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.080 And then as a footnote, I guess to the idea 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.840 of not liking to throw things out or waste them. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.120 Susan says this is also why I drank a box 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.720 of tea that tasted like hot kool aid discovered I 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.320 do not like the taste of hibiscus. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.280 Hmm. You know, I haven't had a lot of high 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.760 biscus tea, but I do like some cocktail mixes that 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.400 involve high biscuits, like some things of that nature, some 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.480 sweeteners that have hibiscus head to them. But as for 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:07.600 her larger points here, I totally can relate to needing 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.400 to consume all of the tea that you buy. I 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.320 like trying out new teas and occasionally I get one 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.960 that I'm not crazy about. But I do feel like 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.960 I owe it to the tea to go ahead and 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.960 just go through the entire amount that I ordered, like 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:21.840 it would be. I'm not just going to leave it 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.640 in there and eventually throw it out. I'm not going 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.000 to compost it. I'm going to consume it, even if 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.600 I'm not crazy about it, you know, sort of in 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.680 a way, sort of give it to the end of 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.760 the package to try and win me over. Now, as 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:41.160 for the lopsong Sushan, I'm still getting used to it. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.760 It's not going to be my everyday tea, but I 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.200 do enjoy it. And other members of my household are 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:52.000 tolerating it's aroma, so that's all well and good. But 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.640 I do love the poo airs. In fact, I'm drinking 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.440 at this very moment an evil snake king poo air 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.160 that I really like. And a number of these do 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.360 have a very kind of earthy, perhaps leathery, even kind 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:09.080 of barnyard sort of flavor profile. That. Yeah, it can 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:10.040 take some good news to. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.960 All right, Rob, I want to take your pick between 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.720 these two weird house messages here. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.840 Sure, sure, sure, Let's say we have one. This one 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.640 relates to Danger Diabolic. This one comes to us from 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:31.240 Paul Robin Joe. My wife and I watch Danger Diabolic 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.000 on Saturday night and thoroughly enjoyed it. After watching it, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.240 though I have one observation and one question. First, you 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.680 noted in your review that Diabolic is more anti than 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.080 we may be used to in our anti heroes, in 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.920 that he murders people who don't seemingly deserve it based 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.080 on their actions. He definitely appears to quote unquote shoot first. However, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.640 in the first heist we see in the film, he's 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.960 entirely nonviolent. The gas he uses to confuse the agents 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.800 guarding the cash as non toxic, and even when he's 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.040 being shot at from the helicopters, he's evasive but non 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.919 violent in response. It's only after the government reinstates the 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.400 death penalty specifically because of him, that we see him 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.240 use violent tactics. Maybe it's the government that shot first. Second, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.800 where do supervillains hire their contractors? That underground Layer is fantastic, I, 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.600 on the other hand, have a hard time just finding 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.800 a competent plumber. Is there a secret version of Craigslist 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.920 only available to supervillains? Looking forward to the next weird 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:28.520 house cinema? 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.000 Paul, I do imagine if you are hiring people to 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.600 make modifications to your underground Layer and your Diabolic, you 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.440 will have the problem that you will have to find 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:44.320 contractors who accept as payment like sweaty, smelly money. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.439 Yeah. I also had some of the same thoughts watching it, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.760 like who built I mean? And then this is the 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.919 type of film where you can easily jump out of 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.639 that kind of of thinking, But yeah, who would build this? 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.399 Where did this come from? What is the origin story 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.639 of this vast facility underground? And I do love that 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.399 a film like Danger Diabolic does not feel like it 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:11.080 needs to explain that, whereas plenty of modern films would that. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:12.920 Being said, you know, I do have to single out 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.240 the television series Better Call Saul for doing one of 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.000 the better jobs I've ever seen of explaining the origin 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.159 story of a complex underground villain's layer in a in 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.159 a believable sense, like how would this possibly come together? 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.760 And how would you possibly attempt to keep it secret? 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.440 On the subject of danger Diabolic, we also heard from 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:40.439 listener Matt in discord. He commented, quote Diabolic share some 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.000 DNA with chronicles of Riddick. I guess in that quote 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.760 evil should be fought with a different type of evil. 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.840 Unquote it's a pretty good point. Pretty good point. Yeah. However, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.720 I will say there are no good guys encouraging Diabolic 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.879 to fight evil in the film. He just gets drawn 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:02.200 into a prolonged feud with criminals and government. Nobody's saying like, yes, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.159 finally we can use Diabolic to uh to deliver us 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.280 from the tyranny of the government and or the crime lords. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.440 Can you imagine in a movie that's Riddick versus Terry Thomas. 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:22.640 Oh well, it raises a tough quest like who would 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.479 be the modern Terry Thomas, who could do that? Who 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:30.360 would be the actor for that role? Wait, I think 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.719 I have an idea. I think Hugh Grant could do it. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:39.400 Michael Sheen, I think would especially contemporary Michael Sheen could 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.560 do a nice one. Which is interesting because Michael Sheen 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.000 definitely had his sort of action period, his sort of 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.359 like Underworld three era where he would be more of 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.080 like a fitting like physical adversary of Riddick. But but 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.200 current Michael Sheen, he's at a different stage in his 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:58.520 life and career where he could and of course he's 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.639 a brilliant performer that can p a serious character as 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.520 well as a highly comedic and campy character. And I 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.439 think you would be particularly delicious as that kind of 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.959 adversary for maybe not maybe not for Riddic, but somebody 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:11.560 like critic. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.679 Well you know what I was, I was half joking 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:19.959 about Hugh Grant, but actually he plays a bullseye Terry 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.439 Thomas role in the recent Dungeons and Dragons movie. I mean, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.000 that's a Terry Thomas character. 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.240 It is, it is, and that is a great, great role, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.840 great role in that film. I'm enjoying late career Hugh 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.920 Grant here he's playing an oople lumpenex, which I'm excited 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:36.320 to see. 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:37.199 Oh I didn't know that. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.080 Oh yeah, yeah, it's in the trailer. Looks it looks 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.720 looks fabulous. 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