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Speaker 5: guys want to learn a little secret of the industry,
Speaker 5: let's do it.
Speaker 6: Isaiah is going to.
Speaker 1: Laugh at this.
Speaker 6: So Sunday night, after the game was over, did you
Speaker 6: see this?
Speaker 8: That's all you cracked up, like at least three or
Speaker 8: four times. It's like going to break. Oh, it was
Speaker 8: like you could see them like I was breaking. It
Speaker 8: was unbelievable.
Speaker 9: I won.
Speaker 5: If anybody wants to Isaiah want so we I mean,
Speaker 5: the Cowboys had just gotten their teeth kicked in forty
Speaker 5: one to seven.
Speaker 6: It just wasn't a good game. There was not a
Speaker 6: whole lot to talk about exactly.
Speaker 5: So all this is happening and we're on the postgame show,
Speaker 5: A Cowboys at ot which is an hour long postgame
Speaker 5: show and it's a lot of yes it is, the
Speaker 5: first part of the show is great because you get
Speaker 5: to you get to highlights, you get to hear from Mike,
Speaker 5: you get to hear your analysis from Barry, Isaiah and Nate,
Speaker 5: and that's really kind of the instant reaction. Well, then
Speaker 5: after that, it's pitching to locker room sound, and we
Speaker 5: get the instant reaction from the locker room. Well, after
Speaker 5: you lose forty one to seven, nobody wants to talk
Speaker 5: in the locker room playing and simple. It's human nature.
Speaker 5: You just don't want to do it. And so we
Speaker 5: were just constantly pitching to frustrated individuals who were saying
Speaker 5: the same thing over and over.
Speaker 6: Again, any question, not answering anything of substance.
Speaker 5: And so Cavanda talk he did, and Cavante was great
Speaker 5: and we did break that down.
Speaker 6: But outside of that, it was just like man like,
Speaker 6: at this.
Speaker 5: Point in the season, it's tough to continue talking about
Speaker 5: the same thing over and over. And so there was
Speaker 5: zero energy on our set compared to normal, where we
Speaker 5: love working together and we love having some fun. So
Speaker 5: I came up with a great idea. Isaiah accidentally on
Speaker 5: one segment throw out a hip hop reference and I
Speaker 5: was like, all right, here's our game.
Speaker 6: This is gonna wake us up.
Speaker 5: I was like, we're gonna see how many times we
Speaker 5: can make a hip hop reference with a movie type
Speaker 5: or a song title in our analysis and try and
Speaker 5: sneak it in there. Well, we started going Barry hit one,
Speaker 5: Nate hit one, and then Isaiah hit like six, and
Speaker 5: it was just boom boom, boom boom, and it was
Speaker 5: funny at that point. Well, then we got to the
Speaker 5: break and we all kind of laughed about it and
Speaker 5: joked about it, and I came back in and I
Speaker 5: was like, I was like the Cowboys had ninety nine problems,
Speaker 5: and Barry lost it, like out of the corner of
Speaker 5: my eye. I mean he he's on a one shot yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: all by myself.
Speaker 6: So Barry wasn't on screen. He was off to my right.
Speaker 5: I could see Isaiah turn away from me and look
Speaker 5: at the complete opposite direction, so that his that way
Speaker 5: he couldn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but Barry just goes like straight into the back
Speaker 6: of the chair.
Speaker 5: We're cracking up, and we had a severe from that
Speaker 5: point forward, it was over, like we had a severe
Speaker 5: case of the giggles.
Speaker 6: Like it was just we could not keep a straight
Speaker 6: call it off.
Speaker 1: I did. I tried.
Speaker 6: I was like, guys, we can't do this anymore.
Speaker 5: Like, we're not able to keep a straight face, we're
Speaker 5: laughing too much. And then Isaiah just kept on rocket
Speaker 5: so every time.
Speaker 6: He ended up hitting like nine.
Speaker 1: By the end of it, bro I was going in.
Speaker 2: He pulled up the Spotify chart and gave me all
Speaker 2: the needed Turp gave me everything I needed. Get jig with,
Speaker 2: get jigged if you buck. I was pulling them all out.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was it was. It was keep
Speaker 1: your head up, brought a tubac out, huh. I like
Speaker 1: it like that.
Speaker 6: It was terrible professionalism, but it was a lot of
Speaker 6: It was a moment, you know, it was showing.
Speaker 1: Out professional we are. It was hilarious. It was needed,
Speaker 1: is what it was.
Speaker 7: You have to have moments like that one the game
Speaker 7: is that terrible.
Speaker 6: You have to go clip that we have to Mine
Speaker 6: was really bad.
Speaker 1: It was tough.
Speaker 10: It was.
Speaker 5: I was pitching to Osa, who didn't give really any
Speaker 5: answer whatsoever. It was like yes and no answers, and
Speaker 5: it's like I'm laughing pitching to Osa, and then it
Speaker 5: comes up with Osa and he's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 6: We didn't play well, didn't play well at all. And
Speaker 6: then it comes back to me and I'm like, still
Speaker 6: trying to keep it straight out.
Speaker 1: We can watch this. It's bad for those that are
Speaker 1: wonder Obviously, I couldn't watch it in a real time
Speaker 1: because I was in the locker room. Unbeknownst to me,
Speaker 1: on the other side of the locker room, the high
Speaker 1: jinks were occurring remotely from back home with these two.
Speaker 1: It's fine, young men.
Speaker 7: It seemed like, oh, we're having fun.
Speaker 1: And it was tough.
Speaker 7: It's because during the away games. I don't know if
Speaker 7: people know this, like I'm usually at home, like I'm
Speaker 7: just alone in my sorrow, kept my parents, just.
Speaker 1: In my sorrow. It's tough, man.
Speaker 6: But yeah, that that was rough.
Speaker 7: And then I was thinking, like, all right, it's bad
Speaker 7: here when I'm just like, oh God, just sitting in it.
Speaker 1: It's just the way you said it, really Hamlet.
Speaker 11: But I was like.
Speaker 7: Patrick had to like travel to Pennsylvania to watch that happen,
Speaker 7: Like that's yeah, he had to be in Philadelphia, phil Philadelphia,
Speaker 7: excuse me, yes, to watch that happen and hear the
Speaker 7: fans and everything like that.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy thing you heard while you were
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 7: So glad I don't have to travel.
Speaker 1: Amazing, how is it any different from any other thing
Speaker 1: that I hear whenever I'm out there. It just is
Speaker 1: what it is. It's never directed towards me. Yeah.
Speaker 6: They were getting after everybody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't. I can honestly say not a
Speaker 1: single time as a fan said anything disrespectful to me.
Speaker 1: But now, to be honest, I don't they Well.
Speaker 6: On the internet, Ye, can we start saying disrespectful things.
Speaker 1: Somebody who said something disrespectful to you, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: handle that. His name is Tommy. We're gonna handle it. Tommy.
Speaker 6: There was no disrespect.
Speaker 1: Oh, he disrespected. He felt disrespect.
Speaker 6: I am count down to the day, is still trying
Speaker 6: to We had to calm Tommy down.
Speaker 12: He was.
Speaker 1: Tommy said he did it on a one shot. You
Speaker 1: made it. No, no, no, no, you made it. I
Speaker 1: can't make a man.
Speaker 6: You made it worse for you, said, can we get
Speaker 6: a one listen?
Speaker 1: And Tommy said, okay, get me. You made it worse
Speaker 1: for him because I heard the exact I heard the audio.
Speaker 1: I was listening to the audio. What I didn't know
Speaker 1: until Douglas clipped it shot out. Doug was, how if
Speaker 1: you got into the camp. So when I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I told Tommy in the press box,
Speaker 1: It's funny we talking about this in the press box
Speaker 1: because Ambo just out of nowhere, this is how the game,
Speaker 1: how poorly the game was going. We talked about other things.
Speaker 1: So like in the late in the third quarter, I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm just kind of watching the game,
Speaker 1: like whatever, man, and Tommy is sitting there and he's
Speaker 1: kind of charting the game. Am bar out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: She leans over and she's like Pat and I'm like
Speaker 1: what She's like, pet, My money's on Tommy. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I looked at Tommy and I was like, they were
Speaker 1: not ambers.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, they're gonna get you killed.
Speaker 6: Bro, Motivation, motivation, all what I'm saying, it's all locker room.
Speaker 13: How did you find out about it originally? About what
Speaker 13: you were listening to the show live? Well, no, that's
Speaker 13: not the first time he said that. He said that upstairs.
Speaker 13: So this is why I said, I have respectful Tommy,
Speaker 13: because double down. He's not one that will say it
Speaker 13: behind your back.
Speaker 1: He's a double down. Line. Yeah, he's a double down.
Speaker 1: So we were having the conversation a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: It was Kyle myself, Tommy. I think Nick got into
Speaker 1: it and it was this the fun conversation of Oklahoma drill.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was all started by another conversation and it
Speaker 5: was ed away by Isaiah.
Speaker 1: STANDI what do you And then he was like Tommy,
Speaker 1: you know what? He was like, oh, I'll smoking in
Speaker 1: these and so typically that on, like some claw, there's
Speaker 1: two reasons to be confident.
Speaker 13: Either you're just so confident in yourself that it doesn't
Speaker 13: matter who your opponent is that you just know you're
Speaker 13: gonna win, or you saw something in your opponent they
Speaker 13: gave you the boat of com I'm.
Speaker 1: Wondering which one is it? Do I look? So, I
Speaker 1: think he's taking the fact that he's twenty years younger
Speaker 1: than me as like leverage, which is fine.
Speaker 6: That it's a significant advantage.
Speaker 7: So he's probably this guy broken elbow throwing a baseball,
Speaker 7: Like I think I'm finding.
Speaker 1: One, I didn't break it. Two, I don't work it
Speaker 1: with my arms, I don't run my back, my back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gonna get tell.
Speaker 6: Me I love you over here like this cat's in
Speaker 6: physical therapy.
Speaker 1: And I saw that as an opportunity, I guess, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know where a bar is, like in the
Speaker 1: middle of the game blowout of course, and it's like
Speaker 1: I'm starting. I was like, wow, can that work?
Speaker 7: But Amber is is the polar opposite of Isaiah or
Speaker 7: she's gonna instigate it, but really calm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like stabbing you with a two things. It
Speaker 1: was so random out of nowhere, like there was no
Speaker 1: segue to it. It's just my money, Tommy, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? She's a subtle hater. I talked.
Speaker 13: I talked to Derek about it too. He's like, listen
Speaker 13: what I here he said? He said, he said, he's
Speaker 13: providing all the resources for this. Here's what I told Tommy.
Speaker 13: I was like, let me tell you about my competitive nature.
Speaker 13: For all of the my followers and whatnot, they're like,
Speaker 13: oh no, she's going to smoke you. I appreciate the love,
Speaker 13: but that doesn't do anything for me as far as
Speaker 13: competitive drive. I like that, but when I start hearing
Speaker 13: everyone say I'm going to lose. Oh okay, now now it's.
Speaker 1: The I mean, when you sit up with the controller,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, now, so.
Speaker 6: We need to keep doing that then, so that way
Speaker 6: you're riving.
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's that's not me. Yeah, fatful, So that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Everyone that believes in me, thank you
Speaker 1: for the love. But that's not what gets me sitting up.
Speaker 1: It's that and the random ambar guard you hear.
Speaker 6: From Patrick himself.
Speaker 5: If you think he's going to lose, please tweet at
Speaker 5: him a voice of the star.
Speaker 6: Let's get it.
Speaker 1: Hate hate turns me. He's smooth. Find all his old
Speaker 1: high school athletic photos. Post them. Here's the yeah sich
Speaker 1: I say it was okay, it's cool. Everybody say what
Speaker 1: they got. I'm trying for Why is he so he
Speaker 1: was confident? Because because because you've guessed him, I know that.
Speaker 9: I was.
Speaker 13: He already told you face the face prior to this conversation,
Speaker 13: so he was already you to put forty Now.
Speaker 1: I can already, I can already see it.
Speaker 7: It's gonna happen on the practice field, no no doubt.
Speaker 7: And then I could see Tommy doing the crack like
Speaker 7: one of these guys before he starts.
Speaker 6: He's just like one little.
Speaker 1: Let me find wings, let me baber, who you got
Speaker 1: your money on? Beamer?
Speaker 5: I think you already asked this question, bro, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: not liberty to bet on anybody on this show.
Speaker 1: I have to be equal.
Speaker 6: Respect because my friends Patrick respect.
Speaker 1: These are not your Fortnite partners. But no one wants
Speaker 1: to play Fortnite with me in this room. Oh demon's
Speaker 1: that guy squad up.
Speaker 6: Here's here's the thing, though, I think we need to
Speaker 6: instead of it just being on.
Speaker 5: The practice field and like where there's nobody out there,
Speaker 5: dere that like opening ceremonies.
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of people there. The cheerleaders
Speaker 6: are there.
Speaker 5: I think after the cheerleaders do their presentation, after they
Speaker 5: give Jerry the little trophy, I think they need now
Speaker 5: for our next event, and then just put Tommy and
Speaker 5: Patrick out there, have the crowd get after it.
Speaker 6: The cheerleaders line the foot yard dash.
Speaker 5: Line service days, and whoever whoever wins the race gets
Speaker 5: that trophy that the mayor just gave.
Speaker 1: Listen, Isaiah ran track. So you know what that kind
Speaker 1: of environment that's even worse for the appoach because it's
Speaker 1: it's a different energy scause. If you slip, are you
Speaker 1: gonna finish the race? I'm not. I almost sit that
Speaker 1: that showed a part of my hand. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Just just just come ready, Michael Johnson gold spikes. He's
Speaker 1: gonna show up an Olympics. But this is bro.
Speaker 5: This is the type of reward you get for listening
Speaker 5: to talking cowboys when this team is seven and nine
Speaker 5: and just got blown out forty one to seven. If
Speaker 5: you get this type of content that in training camp,
Speaker 5: you'll be able to come back and say I was
Speaker 5: there for the origin of the real Ones.
Speaker 13: No, yes, I want to be able to say that
Speaker 13: at the that the internet is undefeated. I want you
Speaker 13: guys to go find all the pictures of no, all
Speaker 13: of it. No, I need all I need all that.
Speaker 13: Y'all got eight months to figure this out.
Speaker 1: You gotta do. I'm bringing a random YouTuber that's going
Speaker 1: to we need a pre game pre rates line.
Speaker 5: I think it would just pre r put all three
Speaker 5: of us in a suit at that table up front
Speaker 5: and like fully, yeah, tell the.
Speaker 1: Real time commentary. Oh yeah, you think we can get
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon the sponsored so that they can put like little.
Speaker 6: Siprtoon get the finished line like they have of the
Speaker 6: Boston Marathon.
Speaker 1: The Simpsons, because that yeah time simple, whoa wow, shots fire,
Speaker 1: That is a lot of shots. All right, We've we
Speaker 1: house the houses, good people. It's just the glasser houses.
Speaker 1: Good people. It's different you that glass house. You're right, okay,
Speaker 1: he says people. I know he's taking a shot at you. Guys.
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Speaker 1: It off of yesterday. Part of yesterday's conversation Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: Cayl Yeoman's had an excellent point that I agree with.
Speaker 1: I think that the Cowboys need to make a decision
Speaker 1: at head coach sooner than later, aceptually, if at all possible,
Speaker 1: and whatever that decision might be. If they're deciding to
Speaker 1: move on from Mike McCarthy once this next game is
Speaker 1: over and done with, make that decision. If you're deciding
Speaker 1: to retain McCarthy, make that decision, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was asked about it today on one oh
Speaker 1: five three the Fan by Bobby and Sean, and he
Speaker 1: was noncommittal right same as Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 1: basically saying it's about finishing the race. He wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, set the same tone that he's given to
Speaker 1: the players, focus on right now, not what's going to
Speaker 1: happen later. All those conversations will happen as early as
Speaker 1: next Monday. Okay, probably as early as next Sunday night,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe, But Jerry Jones continues to display confidence
Speaker 1: and appreciation for what Mike McCarthy has done in his
Speaker 1: time with the Dallas Cowboys three twelve and five seasons. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this season went completely off the rails, but even after
Speaker 1: it went off the rails, they did have that four
Speaker 1: and one stretch where it's just like, how the hell
Speaker 1: did you even pull that off? And that included some
Speaker 1: upsets as well. So there are reasons that Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is going to want to keep McCarthy around, and there
Speaker 1: are probably some reasons that he might be interested in
Speaker 1: seeing what else is out there. As it stands, Cowboys
Speaker 1: and non committal, Mike McCarthy is not pressed about it
Speaker 1: right now. Mike Zimber and he was emotional. Mike zimmer
Speaker 1: was that was very very intense and emotional press conference
Speaker 1: from Mike Zimmer, which could worth to watch. Yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: spress some regrets about early on in the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how he wished that he had handled thinking that he
Speaker 1: was he wont He wished he was a little more
Speaker 1: heavy handed. He wished he was a little more pure
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer in the beginning as opposed to trying to
Speaker 1: come in and meld with what dan Quinn had already established.
Speaker 1: So but that's one of the best press conferences that
Speaker 1: we've seen this year from any of the coaches. So
Speaker 1: go besmatch that from Mike Zimmer. So as it stands,
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway is, yes, Jerry Jones has appreciation and
Speaker 1: some reverence for what McCarthy has done in his time
Speaker 1: in the organization. But those conversations have not don't have
Speaker 1: any traction right now, and they likely won't have any
Speaker 1: any traction until the Commander's game is concluded. So when
Speaker 1: do you believe that the decision will be made. It's
Speaker 1: it's impossible to know because if you look at the
Speaker 1: history of this type of situation, I mean, look at
Speaker 1: let's go more recently, the Jason Garrett thing. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was tied to a pickup and just dragged for weeks.
Speaker 1: And I mean it went to the point where even
Speaker 1: as we have this conversation, there never was any actual
Speaker 1: closure when it came to Jason Garrett. It was here
Speaker 1: comes McCarthy, Garrett isn't informed quite yet, and it was
Speaker 1: a messy situation.
Speaker 14: You didn't really know until interviews happened, right, That was
Speaker 14: kind of there was no It was like over two days,
Speaker 14: there's no real One night they interviewed two people and
Speaker 14: one of them was Mike McCarthy, and so there was
Speaker 14: no real sin tho.
Speaker 6: It was almost like they had to be talked out
Speaker 6: of having Jason Garrett at that point. And that's what
Speaker 6: it felt like at that point.
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, Isaiah, there's no clue. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be that they put up and I agree
Speaker 1: with Cayle and what he said yesterday doesn't how the commanders,
Speaker 1: It doesn't, It doesn't change anything, doesn't tell you anything
Speaker 1: more or less. You get blown up by the commanders,
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you anything more or less. But maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I'm speculating in the mind of Jerry Jones, maybe if
Speaker 1: they blow out the commander's Jerry gets pushed fifty one
Speaker 1: forty nine or fifty two forty eight to keep it
Speaker 1: McCarthy here slight change. Yeah, who knows, we'll find out
Speaker 1: as early as next week. But I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: don't think that we will find out next week. What
Speaker 1: do you think you think you'll find out next week?
Speaker 5: From the conversations with because Stephen was on yesterday, Mike
Speaker 5: was at his press conference, and Jerry was on the
Speaker 5: fan today, all three of those indications say, I don't
Speaker 5: think the Jones family's making a decision anytime soon. The
Speaker 5: one thing that I picked up on yesterday, and I
Speaker 5: know a lot of the internet's kind of starting to
Speaker 5: see the same thing because there were multiple, multiple reports
Speaker 5: around the league that other teams would be interested in
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy said if he is available, and we did
Speaker 5: say that reason he's had success, he's won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 5: there's a reason other teams would like to have his
Speaker 5: services outside of Dallas. So not only am I asking, Okay,
Speaker 5: what is the front office going to do in terms
Speaker 5: of your head coach?
Speaker 6: Now, my question is does this head coach really want
Speaker 6: to be here past this year?
Speaker 1: Tu Way Street, somebody asked somebody asked me that on
Speaker 1: X They said, why have you guys not posed a
Speaker 1: question asked to does Mike McCarthy, But we absolutely have.
Speaker 1: Are you watching talking this is a couple of days ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, no, that's to me. We've talked about that.
Speaker 5: All of it is assuming he's going to come back,
Speaker 5: because if he's given the opportunity, he wants to be here.
Speaker 5: If there's another opportunity out there with a better cap situation,
Speaker 5: a younger quarterback, a younger offense, whatever, it ends up being.
Speaker 1: Closer to hometown, and he's.
Speaker 6: Been in the NFC North before. Sorry, the more control,
Speaker 6: more more control. What's to say? He doesn't entertain that option,
Speaker 6: and maybe he's planning on doing that.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's the case, but either way, I don't think
Speaker 5: there's a decision coming anytime, So got.
Speaker 7: To consider it from my all angles here. Yeah, simply put,
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 1: And I think what's being lost by a lot of
Speaker 1: fans is, like kyleis framan it. It's so much of
Speaker 1: oh well, if you put the offer in front of him,
Speaker 1: he will stay. We'll say who. Yeah, And that's the question.
Speaker 7: Maybe he wants to pick down a little bit.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't I get it recency bias, and you
Speaker 1: at how this year with the Cowboys is going off
Speaker 1: the rails and whatnot. I'm telling you right now to
Speaker 1: your face. I the Jets don't care about what happened
Speaker 1: this year in Dallas. The Bears don't care about what
Speaker 1: happened this year in Dallas. Jacksonville doesn't care about what
Speaker 1: happened this year in Dallas. There will be teams that
Speaker 1: are in need of a quality head coach, let alone
Speaker 1: one that won a Super Bowl? Who could care who
Speaker 1: could not care less?
Speaker 7: And they will see twelve could not care less, twelve
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, three twelve Wooden seasons in a row, and
Speaker 7: you're like, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 6: So we're one of the top fifteen winning as head
Speaker 6: coaches in NFL history.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of people that are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are crazy.
Speaker 13: But you know, for those who have done car shopping
Speaker 13: in the past, yep, maybe there's a particular car that
Speaker 13: you're interested in, right, Maybe you're waiting on the interest
Speaker 13: rates to get better, right, and then all of a
Speaker 13: sudden you're like, you know what, I've been waiting on this.
Speaker 13: I've been waiting on this Okay, I want them, but
Speaker 13: they don't necessarily want me at this point in time.
Speaker 13: The situation is just not right. And then when you're
Speaker 13: ready to pour that, when they're ready to pour a trigger,
Speaker 13: they drop their finances down to zero percent financing and
Speaker 13: you're like, you know what, let's do. There's three other
Speaker 13: cars that I've now had opp to survey a tax break, right,
Speaker 13: I've been able to. I've now had the time because
Speaker 13: because you guys have made me wait right now, I've
Speaker 13: had the time to do my research and look at
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Speaker 13: zerbrace and financing, and also they're throwing in some other incentives.
Speaker 13: So now instead of just me wanting that one, now,
Speaker 13: let me let me take a step back and look
Speaker 13: at my other options, see what works best for me,
Speaker 13: and that now might be the situation that the Dallas
Speaker 13: Cowboys are in.
Speaker 6: We're now talking carboys.
Speaker 1: That's right. Oh, I like it.
Speaker 7: I like it, But you also have to look at
Speaker 7: the you also have to look at the coordinator and
Speaker 7: play caller situation as well. Sure, I think you have
Speaker 7: to really really have a close eye on that. Do
Speaker 7: you think there's any way that the Cowboys retain Mike
Speaker 7: McCarthy and at basically say you're not calling the plays anymore.
Speaker 1: I doubt it. I don't see a scenario.
Speaker 6: It's one way or the other. You're either going to
Speaker 6: get them for all of it or you're gonna get
Speaker 6: them for none of it.
Speaker 7: And so any team that does that, they don't also
Speaker 7: don't have to say and like, oh, yeah, he's calling
Speaker 7: the plays, whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1: I think the only way that McCarthy is in the
Speaker 1: building in twenty and not calling plays is because the
Speaker 1: latter was his decision. Well both are his decisions, but
Speaker 1: it's him stepping back and saying, you know what, Okay,
Speaker 1: if Shoddy is around, let's let's give Shoddy a shot,
Speaker 1: or let's try something different. But I don't see a
Speaker 1: scenario wherein they pull that rug from under him and
Speaker 1: he stays, So it would have to be his decision
Speaker 1: as far as to play call in this concern.
Speaker 5: It is an interesting conversation, and there's still a lot
Speaker 5: to be decided, still a lot to wait on, and
Speaker 5: I'd like we pleaded yesterday. I want them to make
Speaker 5: a decision sooner rather than later. I thought yesterday would
Speaker 5: have been the perfect opportunity to make that decision one
Speaker 5: way or the other, because then you have confidence, win
Speaker 5: or loss going into it, you're gonna get something out
Speaker 5: of this week. I'm not convinced right now if if
Speaker 5: we're going into this week you're going to get something
Speaker 5: out of it, because you've either got a coach coaching
Speaker 5: for his job or you're gonna get or you're trying
Speaker 5: to get to eight to nine, which of course doesn't
Speaker 5: mean anything in the NFL.
Speaker 7: And I will argue that they've sort of maintained this
Speaker 7: thread all year long. It's like, yes, is the one
Speaker 7: year contract. This is deal he has until the end
Speaker 7: of the season. And I think it would be kind
Speaker 7: of pulling back to say like, oh, well, let's sign
Speaker 7: him before the season ends. It's like, no, we're sticking
Speaker 7: to our guns. We're gonna wait till the very last
Speaker 7: respect that I think that's part of it.
Speaker 5: I just think with the situation at hand, I would
Speaker 5: rather know what the future holds as opposed.
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Speaker 5: five two two nine seven. We've got John and Burlington,
Speaker 5: North Carolina. John is a first time caller. I've been
Speaker 5: indicated by Chris Bean.
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 7: John?
Speaker 9: John?
Speaker 11: Hey, how do you guys doing this morning?
Speaker 1: We're all I'm here to Carolina and your boys shouts
Speaker 1: out to central North Carolina. I see it.
Speaker 11: That's right, that's right. But guys, I just wanted first
Speaker 11: of all, it's good to be on with you, but
Speaker 11: I just got two or three things that I'd like
Speaker 11: to mention. The first one to Isaiah. I know he's
Speaker 11: a big fan of Trey Lance. Trey Lance to me,
Speaker 11: if we remember the preseason, he couldn't hit any I
Speaker 11: think that he's one of the worst players I've ever
Speaker 11: seen put on a Cowboy uniform. He throws it to
Speaker 11: the other team all the time. And him along with
Speaker 11: the Boots guy that played corner back, they should try
Speaker 11: the Canadian League and take their Cowboy unicorns. All Son
Speaker 11: with his chest, I've been with the Cowboys in sixty seven.
Speaker 11: And one other thing, Kyle, I appreciates you sent them
Speaker 11: and about the record doesn't matter. But as far as
Speaker 11: the Redskins go, I don't call them the Commanders. I
Speaker 11: don't care about political correctness the Red Skin. As far
Speaker 11: as coming time to toast them, I don't care what day,
Speaker 11: time a week it is. We need to put a
Speaker 11: whooping on them and give them with it is third
Speaker 11: and my final comment about Mike McCarthy. You know the
Speaker 11: media always talks about the record and all this, and
Speaker 11: the injuries have decimated the Cowboys. In fact, both of
Speaker 11: these bad seasons the team would eat up with injury
Speaker 11: they're playing third or four string players. And I know
Speaker 11: we live with the reality of the next man up,
Speaker 11: but the reason they're not playing, they're not starting in
Speaker 11: the first place because they're not as good as the
Speaker 11: other player in front of them. And so we can
Speaker 11: only live with so much first man up. And finally,
Speaker 11: and I'll let you guys go. I do appreciate Isaiah's
Speaker 11: QB binge and I really like that, and I appreciate
Speaker 11: all you guys comments. But finally, if we're going to
Speaker 11: switch quarter coaches, the one we need to go after
Speaker 11: is Kyle Shanahan because he's been Mike McCarthy, even if
Speaker 11: we keep McCarthy, which I'm not opposed to you, because
Speaker 11: he didn't get dumb overnight. I mean, he's won three.
Speaker 11: He's people talking about getting in the playoffs and it
Speaker 11: doesn't matter for the Winter super Bowl. You got to
Speaker 11: get in the playoffs. And the man lived in the
Speaker 11: playoffs when he's got a healthy team or just a
Speaker 11: semi healthy team. So but Shanahan has owned him and
Speaker 11: I would bring him in if we could, because he
Speaker 11: knows he knows how to win. So thank you guys
Speaker 11: for listening. I appreciate you and hope the Cowboys can
Speaker 11: get back to the reason we ain't in the playoffs.
Speaker 11: All the Redskin fans that though we're playing with backup,
Speaker 11: and our backups are better than ours arters till today.
Speaker 11: So thank you guys for listening things.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you man's the first time color, but he
Speaker 5: knows how to bring.
Speaker 13: The John said, like, John, sound like he got about
Speaker 13: six smokers in the backyard.
Speaker 1: He just throw everything on the grill, barbecue. All right.
Speaker 13: So, first of all, I am a fan of Trey
Speaker 13: Lance's abilities, but I have been on record many times
Speaker 13: stating as why he has not been ready to play
Speaker 13: in the league for the crowd Boys or anybody else.
Speaker 13: And all fair, All fair, Yeah, I mean I stand
Speaker 13: on business right because I stand behind everything that I say.
Speaker 13: Trey Lance struggled in the preseason because Trey Lance was
Speaker 13: not trusting the timing, was not trusting the routes. He
Speaker 13: has all the abilities, every box that you want checked
Speaker 13: in terms of physical attributes Trey Lance possesses.
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. His failure has been not enough reps right,
Speaker 1: and he's lack of experience. Lack of experience regardless of
Speaker 1: where he was drafted We've been saying that since We've
Speaker 1: been saying that since the preseason. Right, I've said it
Speaker 1: many times.
Speaker 13: He had half the past attempts in preseason, and he
Speaker 13: had his entire collegiate career. He does not have enough
Speaker 13: enough stripes on his belt, right, But you don't get
Speaker 13: those unless you get playing time. So it's kind of
Speaker 13: a double ed sword there. I don't know what the
Speaker 13: quarterback situation will be this week, truly don't. I don't
Speaker 13: know that it's advantageous for the Dallas Cowboys, regardless of
Speaker 13: coach McCarthy or not, to play Trey Lance at this point,
Speaker 13: because I do think that he is a really good
Speaker 13: candidate of a quarterback to have on your depth chart.
Speaker 1: I truly do. If you can, and again we've had.
Speaker 13: This conversation about quarterback development and position or development in
Speaker 13: this league. If you can have somebody who will develop
Speaker 13: Trey Lance, coach him up and give him the wisdom.
Speaker 13: It's not physical issues that he has. It's all mental confidence.
Speaker 13: It's about the understanding of coverages, it's about timing all
Speaker 13: those things. If you can get somebody to coach him up,
Speaker 13: he is one heck of a person to have on
Speaker 13: your depth chart at the quarterback position, because I think
Speaker 13: he will pay dividends in his current state.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where where the disconnect is.
Speaker 13: But I also don't think that you'll see him play
Speaker 13: in the starting role this week because you make the
Speaker 13: price go up. Why make the price go up. It's
Speaker 13: not fair to him, but that's just the business of football.
Speaker 7: But like you said, if the reps aren't there, total
Speaker 7: he gets one game, does that really make the price
Speaker 7: go up? He got paid five million dollars a year
Speaker 7: because is about potential.
Speaker 1: It's about potential. That's about the last thing you did
Speaker 1: before free He is.
Speaker 13: Six four two and thirty pounds, runs a four to four,
Speaker 13: has a cannon of an arm. Those are things that
Speaker 13: other guys can't just go get.
Speaker 7: But if he does what you expect him to do,
Speaker 7: which is not play great in the passing game, give
Speaker 7: you some ability to run the ball. If he does
Speaker 7: what is expected of him, which is not play great,
Speaker 7: does that still out on.
Speaker 1: The price of Absolutely?
Speaker 13: I think so, Because if I'm the Baltimore Ravens, my
Speaker 13: starting quarterbacks who Trey Lance possesses, what the same ability
Speaker 13: as Lamar Jackson come to sit by that's what we're
Speaker 13: talking about. Right, Go sit behind him, Right, go sit
Speaker 13: behind him. You're more like more like him than you
Speaker 13: are like Dak. Go sit behind him. I'm gonna put
Speaker 13: you on a in a situation with quarterbacks that might
Speaker 13: fit your style a little bit better, right with with uh,
Speaker 13: I'll leave it there, right with the styles that might
Speaker 13: fit you a little bit better. And I don't know
Speaker 13: the coaching situation over there, but maybe they develop a
Speaker 13: little bit better. Right, So, every situation is different for
Speaker 13: every person. Every player is different.
Speaker 6: So I'm saying that it's Sam Donald in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I'm so freaking lily.
Speaker 5: Sam Donald was bounced around everywhere everywhere right just wasn't
Speaker 5: working for him.
Speaker 13: Everybody, everybody was in the right panthers. There was nobody
Speaker 13: that was gonna say that Sam Donald's that dude. And
Speaker 13: then he falls in as a quote unquote backup right
Speaker 13: in Minnesota to a rookie who gets hurt and now
Speaker 13: all of a sudden he's thrust it into the starting
Speaker 13: role and in Whila magic. Now he's going to go
Speaker 13: from making ten million dollars this year to probably making
Speaker 13: forty five million dollars next year, getting Chapagne back.
Speaker 1: At what's happening with Bruce Young and David Canelis. I mean,
Speaker 1: different hey, coach, different situation, you know, different results.
Speaker 13: So I say it's not advantageous for the Cowboys because
Speaker 13: right now they have all the leverage, right they have
Speaker 13: all the leverage.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're stashing them. They're stashing.
Speaker 13: It sucks because I've seen it happen a gazillion times
Speaker 13: exactly what's happening that's exact, especially if Cooper Rush, if.
Speaker 5: You see number ten trot out there on Sunday, I mean,
Speaker 5: you might as well, right next to the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four season for Trey Lance, who had every snap possible
Speaker 5: in the in the preseason over three games, might as
Speaker 5: well just write stashed like instead a red shirt, it's
Speaker 5: a stash shirt.
Speaker 1: Like that's that wrote that in the third quarter in
Speaker 1: Philly when he didn't march out onto that field, when
Speaker 1: it was Cooper Rush that marched out, I was like, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's this is who we are now that I said yesterday,
Speaker 1: I was like, that'll bring him back at that point
Speaker 1: and we'll set And I was like, okay, atleast give
Speaker 1: me and.
Speaker 13: When we say that We're not saying that he's ready
Speaker 13: to be a starter in this league. We're not saying that.
Speaker 13: We're just saying that he.
Speaker 1: Has abilities that need developing.
Speaker 13: And if I'm gonna show that, why would I show
Speaker 13: that to the rest of the world right now? It's
Speaker 13: not it's not advantageous for you if you have plans
Speaker 13: on retaining.
Speaker 5: I just think you need a better look of what
Speaker 5: those abilities have developed from the last preseason game up
Speaker 5: until now. I would like to have a look at it.
Speaker 5: I don't think the number changes that much, because, like
Speaker 5: you said, it's right now, it's a five million dollar deal.
Speaker 5: It's not going to be higher than that, no matter what.
Speaker 5: If he goes for four hundred, let me change let
Speaker 5: me change it this way.
Speaker 11: It's not.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe I'm.
Speaker 13: Wrong by saying the number goes up, right but in
Speaker 13: terms of the competitiveness of other teams willing.
Speaker 1: To go get him a value, that's a better way
Speaker 1: to say his value goes up right now. Maybe he
Speaker 1: can choose that. If he does that against starters right now,
Speaker 1: it's different than him doing it in a preseason.
Speaker 13: Yeah, if he goes out there and all of a
Speaker 13: sudden has a heg of a game balls are you're like,
Speaker 13: oh crap, everybody's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be like hmm. But the counterpoint to that is is
Speaker 1: that if if you are and we're not saying that
Speaker 1: they are but speculative, if you are stashing him and
Speaker 1: you don't play him against the Washington Commanders because you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we want him in twenty twenty five and we
Speaker 1: don't want to show because we don't want too many
Speaker 1: offers that we have to bid against. You're also kind
Speaker 1: of working against yourself because you don't have any data,
Speaker 1: like you don't have enough real time game data versus
Speaker 1: startists to say he's even worth bringing back.
Speaker 6: And even the game data you have is exactly what
Speaker 6: John was talking about on the phone. The game data
Speaker 6: that you have was not good, and that was in
Speaker 6: the preseason.
Speaker 1: But they play. But they have more data than any
Speaker 1: other team. I'm just saying, they'll cut your nose off
Speaker 1: to space. I don't disagree, But they have more data
Speaker 1: than any other.
Speaker 13: Team, practice data, practice, have meetings data, training data where exactly.
Speaker 7: They have all that case and there's no evidence that
Speaker 7: suggests that he will ball out against Washington.
Speaker 1: There is no evidence that suggests that, So why not just.
Speaker 7: Do it for the sake of getting him reps right
Speaker 7: and giving him the opportunity and gaining some probably good
Speaker 7: graces with to bring him back next year to say, oh,
Speaker 7: this guy, actually we gave him a chance at the
Speaker 7: end of the season. Probably should have been sooner. However,
Speaker 7: we did give him a chance in that last game
Speaker 7: to show something fat and give him some value facts.
Speaker 1: Because all the data you're talking about is simulation data,
Speaker 1: all simulation data. But what happens when you actually get
Speaker 1: on the field, when you get in the car and
Speaker 1: you start driving. Everything predictables and this person changes length
Speaker 1: and just took advantageous for the Cowboys as an organization
Speaker 1: to do it, That's all I'm saying. Because they they
Speaker 1: feel as if they know what they have. I think
Speaker 1: it's this. I would imagine that they just from what
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 6: What they have, they've been inspiring contract in their hands
Speaker 6: with over the quarter brown pick for them, but two
Speaker 6: other guys, you know exactly what.
Speaker 1: You've lost, the fourth round pick and five million dollars
Speaker 1: in cap hit. So what's what's playing him for?
Speaker 10: To do?
Speaker 1: You need to see him in an actual no more
Speaker 1: simulation data. Is what I'm saying. You have all this
Speaker 1: meeting data, practice data, preseason data which didn't look great. Okay,
Speaker 1: what you need to see is him actually drive the car.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because without seeing that, you might
Speaker 1: be cutting off.
Speaker 5: He's still in driver's got it's a simulated those hours
Speaker 5: yet doing donuts.
Speaker 13: Let him.
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Speaker 9: Uh uh Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Happy
Speaker 9: New Year. Well, first of all, guys, I want to
Speaker 9: say that, uh, I am very disappointed that a deuced
Speaker 9: fund was utilized very little this season, and I'm just
Speaker 9: hoping uh To be honest, I guess I'm uh I'm
Speaker 9: hoping against hope uh uh uh uh uh that that
Speaker 9: he will be on our team uh uh uh next year.
Speaker 9: But as far as that uh uh as concerned, we'll
Speaker 9: just have to wait and see what happens. And second
Speaker 9: of all, Kyle, I am with you, my man, because
Speaker 9: whatever Jerry Jones decides to do uh with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 9: A our decision needs to be made uh uh uh
Speaker 9: I I as soon as the season is over, if not.
Speaker 11: This week, I.
Speaker 9: I and before I go that me personally, and uh
Speaker 9: uh isaiah Uh. I realized that that you might not
Speaker 9: not agree with with what I'm about to say, But
Speaker 9: with all due respect, the fact of the matter is
Speaker 9: we regressed this year, and considering Mike McCarthy has been
Speaker 9: here five years, me personally, I think it's time for
Speaker 9: a change. But again that's just my opinion, and I'm
Speaker 9: gonna support whatever Jerry Jones decides to do. I take care,
Speaker 9: thank you so much for being patient with me, and
Speaker 9: have a great week. Bye Na.
Speaker 1: He knows, Paul, I'm gonna support Nibby's point really quick
Speaker 1: on Von duce Vaughan in a seventeen game season this year,
Speaker 1: and we came in with a lot of high hopes
Speaker 1: in training camp and this season that they figure out
Speaker 1: duce Von not so much. He has a total of
Speaker 1: thirty four offensive plays this entire season. Yes, almost as
Speaker 1: many I mean special teams plays as nineteen. So he's
Speaker 1: just not being utilized mostly at all. Obviously, he's been
Speaker 1: inactive quite a bit.
Speaker 7: Lost time.
Speaker 1: He touched a football a week eleven against the Houston Texans,
Speaker 1: and that was when Rico was out right correct. That
Speaker 1: was the inactive week for Rico. He has only eleven
Speaker 1: rushing attempts this entire season for a total of thirty
Speaker 1: three rushing yards this entire season. If you're asking, well,
Speaker 1: maybe he did some work as a receiver out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. No, he has three total receptions this season
Speaker 1: on five targets for a total of eighteen yards, averaging
Speaker 1: only six yards of reception. This has been another season
Speaker 1: that's a complete wash for the Ducevaughn experiment.
Speaker 7: To Neb's point, that's difficult, man. I really think at
Speaker 7: least seeing him in the preseason, there's a lot of
Speaker 7: high hopes there just seeing him on the profet field
Speaker 7: at training camp, but he never fumbled. Yeah, I think
Speaker 7: that there was a big missed opportunity there, And obviously
Speaker 7: McCarthy and Schottenheimer just didn't have any idea on how
Speaker 7: to use him or just he wasn't doing what they
Speaker 7: wanted him to do. But I think in this case
Speaker 7: you want to lean on his strengths, and his strengths
Speaker 7: are being a shifty back, and they just did not
Speaker 7: want to do that for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: But also if you look at when when he was
Speaker 1: active in getting some touches week one, two, three, four, two, nine, five,
Speaker 1: three offensive players respectively. It was also behind an offensive
Speaker 1: line that was having some troubles because Zach Martin was
Speaker 1: struggling battling injuries and things like that. Once the once
Speaker 1: Zach Martin was kind of shut down for the season
Speaker 1: and then Brock Kaufman came in and the offensive line
Speaker 1: started to kind of short self up as far as
Speaker 1: the run game is concerned. By that point, duce vaugh
Speaker 1: was stuck on the inactives list with the exception of
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans game. So by the time the offensive
Speaker 1: line did kind of get their act together as far
Speaker 1: as blocking up front, it was too late for duce
Speaker 1: Von because he wasn't on the field anymore.
Speaker 6: So, Yeah, unfortunately, thanks for the calls.
Speaker 13: In twenty four man, we appreciate you. I don't wholeheartedly
Speaker 13: disagree with you in regards to the things that you said.
Speaker 13: I wish I would have seen more Deuce Vaughan Coach McCarthy.
Speaker 13: In regards to coach McCarthy comment, I there's there's some
Speaker 13: names out there, there's some names out there, but you
Speaker 13: have to take himTo account his body of work.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't disregard his body of work, and
Speaker 1: you can't disregard the reality of the fact that he
Speaker 1: was dealt a dirty hand this year in regards to injuries,
Speaker 1: and that's something that no coach can predict that you
Speaker 1: would like to say that every coach can overcome it.
Speaker 5: I've seen a Dante interrupt, but I've seen a considerable
Speaker 5: amount of people on Twitter and very fair. Before the
Speaker 5: injuries happened, they weren't playing well either, which is very fair.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've referenced New Orleans, We've referenced Baltimore, We've
Speaker 5: referenced Detroit. They were for the most part healthy during
Speaker 5: those games and it did not work out.
Speaker 13: You're absolutely correct. New Orleans was infernal in the beginning
Speaker 13: of a season.
Speaker 7: But that reminded me of Carolina or what was the
Speaker 7: Cardinals last year?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: Similar, I mean similar beginning of the year, beginning of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 13: They they poured a killing more times tend their back
Speaker 13: at the beginning of the year. Right, So New Orleans
Speaker 13: lights out the beginning of the year, and then the
Speaker 13: other teams that you mentioned are all probably buying for
Speaker 13: Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Dever and Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to my grave. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to my grave believing that the Packers broke the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: because yeah, in that January player game, because if you
Speaker 1: look at what happened, I mean, they went to Cleveland
Speaker 1: and handle business there. But as far as what happened
Speaker 1: after that, especially with the games at home and that
Speaker 1: home losing streak, it took the Cowboys a long time
Speaker 1: to kind of get over get that. Yeah, get out
Speaker 1: of that hole that the Packers shoved them into. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but then that cow said, I mean, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it a lot on this show. The Cowboys, when
Speaker 1: they were mostly healthy, still struggled to play goodball on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, couldn't get a pass rush,
Speaker 1: couldn't get the offense going, red zone woes, penalties and
Speaker 1: things like that. So all of this is true, and
Speaker 1: all of this is what has to be discussed upstairs
Speaker 1: over the next several days.
Speaker 5: And at the same time, like you said, they were
Speaker 5: against good teams Baltimore, Detroit, and Philly, But you went
Speaker 5: into the season expecting to be those teams.
Speaker 6: You went into this season.
Speaker 5: Expecting to contend yourself for a Super Bowl, just like
Speaker 5: you thought you had a chance at doing last year.
Speaker 5: And you never got close to that, even when the
Speaker 5: team was healthy.
Speaker 6: So I've said this before. I would retain Mike McCarthy if.
Speaker 5: I was if I was in the shoes, if I
Speaker 5: was placed in the shoes of the Jones family, I
Speaker 5: would retain him. I would run it back with him
Speaker 5: and Zimmer next year and let's get this healthy roster.
Speaker 5: Let's try and make a little bit of an exception. Yeah,
Speaker 5: at least next year is what I'm kind of You
Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to sign either one of those guys
Speaker 5: to a one year deal.
Speaker 1: That's not that's years.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a two year year. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, you're going one year at a time. Retain
Speaker 5: Al Harris at all costs.
Speaker 6: And retain him.
Speaker 5: I would keep him because of the body of work,
Speaker 5: because of what you brought him in here to do.
Speaker 5: Plus I'm not convinced that there's another option out there.
Speaker 5: There are names that I would feel more confident in
Speaker 5: leading this team better than Mike McCarthy has, because I've
Speaker 5: seen it firsthand and I think they're the way that
Speaker 5: this team has been led by him and Zimmer over
Speaker 5: the course of a wild wild season, and the fact
Speaker 5: that this locker room.
Speaker 6: Never lost hope. That that carries a lot of weight
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 1: And deficially if Mike Zimmer calls it a career, because
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's teetering. Al Harris to d C,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that for d C, not to DC.
Speaker 1: Let me be clear on that.
Speaker 7: Did you mean Mike Zimmer?
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't go to DC, said Mike Simmer, said Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: McCarthy miaking news all these mikes. Sounds like Zimmer is
Speaker 1: teetering because of his emotion. Emotionally, it sounds like he
Speaker 1: came back and achieved what he wanted to achieve because
Speaker 1: of his late son. So we'll see if Zimber chooses
Speaker 1: to remain coaching in football. If not, and if that's
Speaker 1: not in Dallas, Al Harris to defensive coordinator asap, do
Speaker 1: it for the culture.
Speaker 7: Marvin Overshown was very vocal about wanting zim back. He retweeted,
Speaker 7: that was my Nick Harris.
Speaker 1: But again two way street. It has to be something
Speaker 1: that Zimmer wants. Of course happened and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: anything left to prove.
Speaker 7: Just showing support.
Speaker 1: I get it all right?
Speaker 6: That does it for us here on the final Talking
Speaker 6: Cowboys of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7: Sad face, Wow, don't work New Year tomorrow, Fellas.
Speaker 5: We'll be back on Thursday for the first Talking Cowboys
Speaker 5: Yeah of twenty twenty five. Al Right, got a little
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Speaker 1: Some ribs on there for me today.
Speaker 6: Let's go all right, that does it?
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