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Speaker 1: Mayr said Burry Church. I am Newie Scrugs combine starting today,
Speaker 1: day to day today. And how about our guy Byron
Speaker 1: Jones on Twitter yesterday, man basically saying, you know, because
Speaker 1: it talks about the anniversary of his combine and the
Speaker 1: great records he set coming to Dallas Cowboys first round pick. Basically,
Speaker 1: at least the way I took it was. The tweet was, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I took a whole bunch of stuff and I put
Speaker 1: in my body with I had and I got chronic
Speaker 1: pain here. I love being an NFL play. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't something I would have done had I
Speaker 1: known the long term effects. It sounded like he was
Speaker 1: saying goodbye to the game. That's what it sounded like
Speaker 1: to me. And I want to know what he's dealing
Speaker 1: with it because he was always, you know, a healthy
Speaker 1: young guy, super athletic, and for him to go out
Speaker 1: there saying I can't run anymore, I can't jump anymore,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's surprising to me. And it was like, man,
Speaker 1: what's going on down there in Miami and for him
Speaker 1: to say, you know, all that wasn't worth it because
Speaker 1: the man made a boat ton of money. I meant
Speaker 1: put about the man contract and for a defensive back
Speaker 1: in the NFL history, he's made a boat ton of money.
Speaker 1: And for him to say, you know what, all that
Speaker 1: money isn't worth it, he's got to be dealing with something,
Speaker 1: you know, it gott to be dealing with something. What
Speaker 1: you said, bro, it's what you said last week. And
Speaker 1: when we see people tweet about all the time, when
Speaker 1: you talk about when free agency comes up and when
Speaker 1: they start talking about those contract tops, they they always
Speaker 1: leave out what we ask you to do when you
Speaker 1: was hurt. Right, you're a warrior. Right, you're a warrior.
Speaker 1: You going out there and you're playing with the injury.
Speaker 1: But then when it comes time to get that check,
Speaker 1: and when when it's like, hey, man, so what you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay me for me going out there being a warrior?
Speaker 1: And they're like, now, I don't know, man. You take
Speaker 1: your tikes lord than you was last year, your tis
Speaker 1: lord than you was year before that and that. But
Speaker 1: that's what happens. Guys in their mind, they believe that
Speaker 1: the team is gonna look out for him, and they
Speaker 1: go out there and risk everything. Right, So when Byron
Speaker 1: Jones is going out there playing hurt, getting those shots
Speaker 1: that you take the to numb up a pain or
Speaker 1: taking a toward all or whatever, he's saying, Man, it
Speaker 1: wasn't worth. At the end of the day, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have just set out because if you look
Speaker 1: at I mean, how many times did we go out
Speaker 1: there because we thought, man, if we don't if we
Speaker 1: don't shoot up this week, so we may not even
Speaker 1: be on the team next week. So how many times
Speaker 1: every week, every week battling the high ankle sprains, broken
Speaker 1: foe arms, all types of stuff because we don't know
Speaker 1: if we're gonna be there next week. So you take
Speaker 1: those shots, you take those pills, and you don't really
Speaker 1: understand the time you're sitting there like Ahi, Man, I
Speaker 1: just want to get through the game. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the right now. I just want to get through this game.
Speaker 1: But you don't think about, you know, the ramifications of
Speaker 1: what can happen when you take that stuff years down
Speaker 1: the line. And that's what I believe Baron Jones is
Speaker 1: talking about. I think it's fair enough to say that.
Speaker 1: You're not even mature enough to understand it. At that point.
Speaker 1: You're not even twenty two, twenty three years old. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody that most of the people who are at that
Speaker 1: age are not thinking about Oh man, when I'm settled
Speaker 1: down with wife and kids and they five and six
Speaker 1: seven years old and I'm taking the school, I'm thirty eight,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, oh, my back might be
Speaker 1: hurt and I'm not gonna be able to do what
Speaker 1: I what I'm doing now, you're not thinking about that.
Speaker 1: When you're twenty two, you like, man, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make this money so I can make sure I'm straight
Speaker 1: when I when I get there. And then you get
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six, you're like, oh man, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm tights hurt, but not ten years off my old
Speaker 1: my life play in the game really start to one
Speaker 1: of those. Especially see the news stories about CTE and
Speaker 1: this and that and that, you're like, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Once you get older you
Speaker 1: start to kind of understand that. But when you're young,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, no, I'm good. I just starting man.
Speaker 1: A couple of plays. No, I love hearing what you
Speaker 1: guys have to say about this. It was it was
Speaker 1: sad to me to hear that from from Barron Jones,
Speaker 1: especially a guy that, like you said, he's made a
Speaker 1: boatload of money in the NFL, and you know the
Speaker 1: tweet saying, you know, look, I can't run our jump,
Speaker 1: and you you think about that broad jump that he
Speaker 1: had in to comebine and they pretty much put him
Speaker 1: on the map that broad jump, did you know? Look, man,
Speaker 1: I just look at you. Guys are talking about your
Speaker 1: personal experiences and having to take those chances because your
Speaker 1: livelihood is at stake. So many guys every Sunday doing
Speaker 1: the same thing and thinking about the next paycheck and
Speaker 1: then thinking about taking care of so many people they
Speaker 1: ain't just taking care of, you know. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of people depending on that buried church check, you know.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, when you see
Speaker 1: these guys after their careers and they're not able to walk,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think about the Great Earl Campbell,
Speaker 1: you know, the Great Earl Campbell has to have a
Speaker 1: golf car everywhere he goes because hip's gone. He's gone,
Speaker 1: you know, And so many of these guys they get
Speaker 1: the gold jacket that get all the fame and all
Speaker 1: those things that come with it. But they have to
Speaker 1: have someone helped them to the bathroom. They have to
Speaker 1: have someone helped them take that. Let me look all
Speaker 1: of those things. People I think on the outside just
Speaker 1: only see the money aspect of and that's how they
Speaker 1: look at Parron Jones. I would have made a moment
Speaker 1: out of took the shot too. But if that meant
Speaker 1: your quality of life, you know, you know, being able
Speaker 1: to be there for your children, being able to you know,
Speaker 1: walk your children down the aisle, you know. Um and
Speaker 1: though all of that is relative, and and again I
Speaker 1: just don't take When I saw that tweet, uh new,
Speaker 1: it just broke my heart because you know what kind
Speaker 1: of young man Byron Jones is and what kind of
Speaker 1: family he comes from. You know, he's a proud guy.
Speaker 1: This is this is why you get the respect from
Speaker 1: a guy like Mike Tomlin when he goes on Ryan
Speaker 1: Clark's podcast and he says, my number one job is
Speaker 1: to make sure that I take care of you as
Speaker 1: a player and as a young man. And he's speaking
Speaker 1: about when he Ryan Clark out when they went up
Speaker 1: there to play and different knowing that he had the
Speaker 1: sum I just think you need more coaches, more gems,
Speaker 1: more owners that are like that so players don't feel
Speaker 1: that pressure to go out there and risk that type
Speaker 1: of stuff when they plan right now. I know it's
Speaker 1: hard for you to give somebody that type of comfort
Speaker 1: to say, man, no matter what happened, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: all right. But players, it's something to some extent need
Speaker 1: to feel that way versus how Byron Jones feels about
Speaker 1: how he feels about it. Because, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: this is going to have a big effect on parents
Speaker 1: when they say, hey, man, do should I let my
Speaker 1: son play? One thing about Mike Thomas, he works for
Speaker 1: organization that will not fire him. And if you're if
Speaker 1: you're coaching out there, you know there's gonna be some
Speaker 1: folks who think about themselves in that aspect. Here's Bayern's tweet,
Speaker 1: just so we make sure this is what he said
Speaker 1: exactly his words. Much is changed in eight years today.
Speaker 1: I can't run or jump because of my injuries sustained
Speaker 1: playing this game. Do not take the pills they give you,
Speaker 1: Do not take the injections they give you. If you
Speaker 1: absolutely must, consultant outside doctor to learn the long term implications.
Speaker 1: Then in a second tweet, he says, it was an
Speaker 1: honor and a privilege to play in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: it came at a regrettable cost I did not foresee.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, no amount of professional success or financial
Speaker 1: gain is worth avoidable chronic pain and disabilities. God speed
Speaker 1: to the class of twenty twenty three. And that tweet
Speaker 1: spun from an NFL cartoon that said, Byron Jones jump
Speaker 1: the equivalent of two twenty five in many coopers in
Speaker 1: twelve feet twelve inches. It says the too many coopers
Speaker 1: are eleven feet six inches and they called him mister
Speaker 1: broad jone and his tweet got over four hundred comments,
Speaker 1: and the second one got over three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: four comments, And of course, as you could imagine, some
Speaker 1: of them were of the ignorant taste of people saying
Speaker 1: I work a job in my back hurts, or people
Speaker 1: who compare themselves players, which I always laugh at because
Speaker 1: you're not a player. You don't know how it's tough. Man.
Speaker 1: It's because they don't. You don't see that when you're
Speaker 1: coming in the league. All you see is the the
Speaker 1: glitz and glamor man, if i'd go here first round,
Speaker 1: I get this pipe of money. I get that they
Speaker 1: don't really tell you about the you know, the side
Speaker 1: effects or the downside of playing the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it was a stat if you play something,
Speaker 1: you knocking off stuff. Yeah, I mean you're liking a
Speaker 1: car collision every time you go into a big time hitting.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're hitting three hundred pounders as a safety
Speaker 1: or a corner, and it's just it's gonna wear on
Speaker 1: your body. But they don't tell you those type of things.
Speaker 1: And like you said earlier, as a young man, you
Speaker 1: don't really think about those things. You're thinking, man, look
Speaker 1: I'm invincible. I'm in the prime of my life. I'm healthy,
Speaker 1: I can do anything. And you go out there and
Speaker 1: you're running in those cats eeaching every day. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: when sixty five, right, sixty five, I think, y'all take
Speaker 1: sixty five. I take sixty five. I supposed to be
Speaker 1: saving me two sixty five by time I play. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm all right, all right. You look
Speaker 1: like but you don't understand it though you ain't got
Speaker 1: no kids and grand kids. You ain't looking at that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Heck, what do you see from from
Speaker 1: your from your uncle Joe Green, I mean all those
Speaker 1: you know, he played with so many great players and
Speaker 1: they would always come and visit him. And recently we
Speaker 1: you know, we saw some Frank o' harris passed away,
Speaker 1: and he's lost so many of his teammates on the
Speaker 1: D line. And when you spoke about, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, I remember being at that first charity function
Speaker 1: he had for the scholarship, and it'd been a while
Speaker 1: since I saw Earl. It was just it hurt when
Speaker 1: you see Tony Dorsett and you talk for toking, I
Speaker 1: mean for me, you know, because you got Danny. You
Speaker 1: guys were younger, but those were guys we grew We
Speaker 1: grew up watching these these This was what turned us
Speaker 1: into NFL fans. Yeah, double hip replacement, double knee replacements,
Speaker 1: you know, just not being able to get around good
Speaker 1: at all. You know, it's just head. He played a
Speaker 1: tremendous price, uh to play the game of football, and
Speaker 1: so many guys do. And you look at today and
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about this because of the
Speaker 1: combine and obviously the statement that Byron Jones made and
Speaker 1: and look, you guys played this game and had to
Speaker 1: deal with all of those injuries, take those shots, go
Speaker 1: through all of that pain to be able to put
Speaker 1: a helmet on and go out there and earn a paycheck.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys don't have to go through that.
Speaker 1: And even when you look at the guys that have
Speaker 1: all of the fame and all of the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and all of that, there's still a price that
Speaker 1: has to be paid. It up matter what level that
Speaker 1: you played at, right, And that's why I think there's
Speaker 1: so much respect amongst players that I and I love
Speaker 1: the camaraderie and the fraternity of the players because they
Speaker 1: show each other that love based off of that sacrifice,
Speaker 1: because you know what it took to play the game
Speaker 1: each and every week. And so look, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna see it in lie till you Man, My life
Speaker 1: is so much better because Monca played in the league, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, And when I look at those drafts and
Speaker 1: I see those guys being drafted, I understand that depending
Speaker 1: on where they came from. Man, that's a mother that's
Speaker 1: making it out. That's a father that's making it out
Speaker 1: from a situation, and you have the tom Ronaldi music
Speaker 1: in the bagging. You know, somebody's gonna make you cry
Speaker 1: because it's some of these stories are really hard to
Speaker 1: listen to. But guys are overcoming a lot to end
Speaker 1: up playing in the league. Don't ever wanted to end
Speaker 1: where a guy is saying I can't run a jump today.
Speaker 1: And so when you see a guy like was it Megatroun,
Speaker 1: well he stepped away from the games, Like look at
Speaker 1: my health. You know there are other guys that have
Speaker 1: stepped away from the games. His look then my health.
Speaker 1: Someone on the outside, I can't understand. How do you
Speaker 1: turn down twenty million dollars? I know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't know how you do it. But
Speaker 1: when it comes down to that, and God's recognize his look,
Speaker 1: I got enough money, I can retire. I'm good. You
Speaker 1: know you gotta respect that. And I think when I
Speaker 1: see Byron Jones have his perspective and say what he
Speaker 1: just said, it's just heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking because I understand
Speaker 1: what this game has done for me and so many
Speaker 1: of my cousins that got went to nursing school, got
Speaker 1: real estate licenses and owned businesses because they got that
Speaker 1: that interest free. So it's a lot to it man.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a double less sward man. But you know,
Speaker 1: it really is heartbreaking to hear what you just read.
Speaker 1: I will say this man. Hopefully, you know, with a
Speaker 1: younger guy like Byron coming out talking about his health
Speaker 1: issues and all that other suff of it'll get when
Speaker 1: the next CBA comes around. Hopefully these younger guys will,
Speaker 1: instead of voting to be able to you know, do
Speaker 1: stuff outside of the football facility, the vote for health
Speaker 1: insurance and making sure these guys get lifetime health insurance
Speaker 1: like that's something and I get it. These guys are
Speaker 1: young and not thinking about that right now. They're not
Speaker 1: thinking about that right now. Insurance thinking about it. Man.
Speaker 1: Hopefully with younger guys coming up, saying that type of
Speaker 1: stuff you know, don't get through to these young casts.
Speaker 1: But how much how much health and health playing your
Speaker 1: two retirements? For me, it was it was probably about
Speaker 1: seventy percent. I mean after Achilles for back surgery. I
Speaker 1: mean it's shoulder surgery. My whole right side, it's just
Speaker 1: you know, surgery up. So I was getting out of
Speaker 1: the bed, man, ankles swollen, toes, hurting, and then I
Speaker 1: got to the point where I was like, man, is it.
Speaker 1: I started thinking to myself while I was in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: sitting on the bed at five o'clock in the morning, like, Man,
Speaker 1: do I really want to go in here and hear
Speaker 1: what these coaches gotta say? Do I really want to
Speaker 1: go out there and practice? I go there, and it
Speaker 1: just I just didn't have that love for the game
Speaker 1: no more. And you know, I started thinking to myself, Man,
Speaker 1: I just just doesn't this isn't for me right now,
Speaker 1: and I slowed down. You know, I wasn't athletic, athletic
Speaker 1: as I was when I first came in, but a
Speaker 1: lot of that I had to do with health. Man,
Speaker 1: what was real? Thank for mine, I'm gonna probably eighty
Speaker 1: five ninety playing special teams high ankle sprains. When the
Speaker 1: hamstrings started to hit me, that's that's when it was.
Speaker 1: That's when you start getting slower for real. And then
Speaker 1: it's hard for you to get over tendnitus and getting
Speaker 1: your knee drained and having hip pointers and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And also you're like, man, I didn't even realize I
Speaker 1: was slower than I was. And then you start to
Speaker 1: watch you like, okay, all right. You can work out
Speaker 1: as much as you want to, you can eat as
Speaker 1: good as you want to, and you cannot negate some
Speaker 1: of those injuries and some of those effects that you
Speaker 1: have when you playing the game. So all those injuries
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Speaker 1: cradd So so I'm trying to gently get into this
Speaker 1: with tenderness. Tender tenderness, get into a medium well bone
Speaker 1: in because so when win? What restaurant? Were about to
Speaker 1: talk about it on? Because I was trying to say
Speaker 1: up front, I'm not participating in where his second? I
Speaker 1: appreciate that, man, you your class act. Now I'm looking
Speaker 1: right here at the knife lunch me and you because
Speaker 1: wherein bro, your class your class act, news, whole family, friends, winnings,
Speaker 1: class act. Bro, I'm not hey, man, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1: If I make a bet and I lose, I'm expecting
Speaker 1: to have to pay. That's the pressure of the bet.
Speaker 1: That's why, That's why I would be stressed out during
Speaker 1: the whole People may not understand what you're talking really,
Speaker 1: and I would really have to think about when that
Speaker 1: goes out, if I want to take my bet back
Speaker 1: when the chances offered twice. But yeah, but now it
Speaker 1: makes sense because you know, I don't matter anywhere. We
Speaker 1: don't know about the people know about the beat. What
Speaker 1: was the bet? All right? So hot at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the beginning of the year. Uh. We decided to
Speaker 1: make a bet with the Cowboys when the NFC East
Speaker 1: or what the Philadelphia Eagles. When the NFC East buried
Speaker 1: Church Nui scrugs. Danny mccrais said that the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: not win the NFC East. They will not. We took
Speaker 1: the field, said he's taking the Cowboys. When Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: got hurt, we gave him a shot to say, man,
Speaker 1: are you sure you still want to make this bet,
Speaker 1: do you because we will let you. We'll let you
Speaker 1: get it back. We understand. The quarterback went down. He said,
Speaker 1: now I'm sticking with my squad and if I lose,
Speaker 1: I got to take y'all the yeah twenty other plane.
Speaker 1: He said that Philadelphia was gonna be up by twenty
Speaker 1: before the Cowboys got off the plane to go to
Speaker 1: the lake. And now it all makes sense because we
Speaker 1: went to eat at the Knife and Hickman was going
Speaker 1: to pay his bet, and we're sitting up here eating steaks,
Speaker 1: avocado fry, beef carpazio. Make it tasting. I had three
Speaker 1: fold glasses of wine. I had so much wine had
Speaker 1: I had to stop because I didn't want to run
Speaker 1: the table, like you know what good novel just wait
Speaker 1: on wait to my They opened a whole nother foley
Speaker 1: and then at the end of the night, I'm waiting
Speaker 1: to see the check so I could take a picture
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I'm saying, so I could
Speaker 1: post it on Twitter later. I didn't know I was gone.
Speaker 1: This man don't even get a check. I got my lit.
Speaker 1: They don't even bring a check. This man if he
Speaker 1: had to ask the tip, the owner's gonna tip. He's
Speaker 1: saying that I want to. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I timp the guy. I said, hello, we done, We done.
Speaker 1: Man ain't pay for nothing. So now we're on the
Speaker 1: show talking about the knife, talking about the restaurant people,
Speaker 1: thinking about the good steak we had in the carp patio. Heck,
Speaker 1: didn't have to pay no money. The only thing when
Speaker 1: they got food is us. Okay, So Twitter, can you
Speaker 1: please let hey, hey, when you make a bet, you
Speaker 1: got to pay that ding It's like, actually pay it.
Speaker 1: Its the only thing I'm gonna say. Let you go,
Speaker 1: say bro. I would have liked another one of the
Speaker 1: baking tasting Yeah, you should have got another one, but
Speaker 1: we don't want to run the time busy to push.
Speaker 1: But I would have liked another baking taste, and then
Speaker 1: that was that good? Wasn't And we could have had
Speaker 1: another short in the short rid we needed it. You
Speaker 1: probably should have had our old short risks. We could
Speaker 1: take it home. We were started doing my faith, but
Speaker 1: health out. But the next bet, the next thing getting paid.
Speaker 1: They all go whoever whoever lose, got the paper. What
Speaker 1: you do. But I did appreciate, Thank you, man, I
Speaker 1: should appreciate you knife and play. I said, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at lunch menu. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna get here,
Speaker 1: get done. I mean, get over. They got to beat
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Speaker 1: all right, NFL free agency combine starting this week, Um,
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't exactly dip into that thing. And we've spoken
Speaker 1: about the need to fix the defensive line defensive tackle
Speaker 1: spot especially. I'm looking at Javon Hargraves and the Eagles,
Speaker 1: who would say he is talk about started um free agency? No,
Speaker 1: it is not started yet, but it's coming up. Yeah, CBA,
Speaker 1: we allowed to. We still restricted on this one. Yet
Speaker 1: you're a restrict for mentioning anybody's name. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: so free agency, Okay, excuse me for I think combine
Speaker 1: half coming editing. Nobody may bring none of these names.
Speaker 1: Those two, those two dudes I would touch, but bringing
Speaker 1: names have been released. Nobody cares about Derek Carry, Nobody
Speaker 1: cares about Derek Corner. Bottom line is this, Do you
Speaker 1: try and keep on saying we'll wait to the NFL
Speaker 1: Draft and fill these needs, or do you go right
Speaker 1: here and start addressing some things like defensive tackle, like
Speaker 1: possibly one of your corner spots or your tackles the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle spot officer? Do you do this in free agency? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I say go ahead. I mean what has you know
Speaker 1: developing which they've done a great job. I'll give willing them.
Speaker 1: They've done a great job developing prospects and getting those
Speaker 1: guys that played it up most of their potential. But
Speaker 1: what has that really gotten you. You know, these past
Speaker 1: couple of seasons, you know it's gotten you a playoff
Speaker 1: appearance here and there. You might have won a playoff game,
Speaker 1: but you really haven't gone in long stretches throughout the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So I understand as a as a brand, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys has been successful. I mean, the most you know,
Speaker 1: valuable franchise in all of sports. But when you talk
Speaker 1: about success on the field, this method of developing guys
Speaker 1: through the draft and getting guys on a low bargain
Speaker 1: deals out here, it hasn't really gotten to fruition. You
Speaker 1: haven't really done anything when it matters most. So why
Speaker 1: not take a chance. I'm not saying you gotta do
Speaker 1: the rams thing and trade away all your draft picks
Speaker 1: and get you a Ramsey Aaron Donald. You know you
Speaker 1: don't got to do all that, but to get you know,
Speaker 1: above the bargain price, basement price, whatever they're going these
Speaker 1: past couple of cast couple of years, they've got to
Speaker 1: take some type of splash, and I think they got
Speaker 1: the team right now to do. So. You need a
Speaker 1: couple pieces, not like you gotta spend a boatload, but
Speaker 1: you need a couple pieces. Why not go out there
Speaker 1: and take a plunge that you feel like that because
Speaker 1: you're close, right, You feel like that because you're close.
Speaker 1: You feel like you have the inner workings of a
Speaker 1: team that if you add a key piece like you
Speaker 1: you always talked about Odell and if he's halfway healthy,
Speaker 1: bring him in. Guys like that that you think can
Speaker 1: help you. Oh, get over the hump. There's been there's
Speaker 1: been a draft. They're gonna talk about it every year
Speaker 1: until the Cowboys get to the NFC championship or at
Speaker 1: least come close to winning the Super Bowl. And I
Speaker 1: think people are frustrated with Okay, all right, let's go
Speaker 1: into the draft. You know how the draft is around here.
Speaker 1: We love the draft. We want to go through and
Speaker 1: get these guys and we're gonna bring them in and
Speaker 1: hope that they're ready. And then when it doesn't materialize
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, you're like, we should
Speaker 1: have got so and so, you know, or you see
Speaker 1: another team make a move like we saw the Eagles
Speaker 1: make the move to bring in and Dominican, Sue and
Speaker 1: Joseph and guys like that, and those pieces were very
Speaker 1: important for them, especially when Fletcher Cox went down and
Speaker 1: they had Davis went down. You saw how those free
Speaker 1: agent acquisitions led to success for them. The Cowboys have
Speaker 1: made those moves. I think you felt good about when
Speaker 1: they brought in Amari Cooper. Then you didn't feel good
Speaker 1: about the way they let go of Amark Cooper, who
Speaker 1: they had left. So it's just been the juggling act
Speaker 1: of the front office not willing to go out to
Speaker 1: free agency and spend big dollars. And have you had
Speaker 1: that free agent that you could say, if we have
Speaker 1: that guy on our team, he's gonna be the difference
Speaker 1: maker to get us to a Super Bowl. Yeah. Man, Look,
Speaker 1: I find it just a little confusing because in the
Speaker 1: NFL they always says a copycat league, and then you
Speaker 1: see teams come up with the recipe for success. And
Speaker 1: you've seen it over the last couple of years of Amen,
Speaker 1: this is what you have to do if you want
Speaker 1: to be a contender for US Super Bowl Championship. We
Speaker 1: watched Tampa going there, hit free agency and get all
Speaker 1: the pieces that they needed, some of them on deals
Speaker 1: because an Tonio Brown got there, nobody wanted them. He
Speaker 1: was with Tom Brady. They figured out they didn't break
Speaker 1: the bank to get at Tonio Brown over there, they
Speaker 1: got Tom Brady there, they got some other free agent pieces.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Even the next year they want interception a
Speaker 1: way going right back to the Super Bowl. Who beats them?
Speaker 1: The Rams, the team that goes all in on free agency,
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, man, if we want to win
Speaker 1: the super Bowl now because it's not guaranteed that in
Speaker 1: the next twenty seven years that you win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So now it's the time to make sure that if
Speaker 1: you have the court that you believe can get you
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, then you go make those moves.
Speaker 1: And we still ain't done it, and the free agents
Speaker 1: are out there because everybody else is following them. So
Speaker 1: I think if you really want to win a championship,
Speaker 1: that this is the time. So you need to really
Speaker 1: look at the landscape of who's available, who can help
Speaker 1: you and make a big move. Man. I love what
Speaker 1: you said about copycat league, because that's really how it's
Speaker 1: been for years and years, immolating success. Who's been that
Speaker 1: success the Patriots. And the Patriots have made any splashes
Speaker 1: in free agency, they have always drafted Belichick. Guys, do
Speaker 1: you fit Belichick's offense? Do you fit Belichick's defense? We'll
Speaker 1: look at the contrast between the teams that you just outlined.
Speaker 1: These are not teams that have a I guess a
Speaker 1: type or a structure from the head coaches that they've
Speaker 1: brought in. I mean, it's kind of offense versus defense
Speaker 1: right now. When I look at when I look at
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, I'm honestly, when I even in this draft,
Speaker 1: I've been saying, like, who are we gonna get at
Speaker 1: this pick? I'm saying to myself, who does dan Quinn want?
Speaker 1: Who does dan Quinn want? Because we want a guy
Speaker 1: that fits dan Quinn's system. I'll push back on your own.
Speaker 1: Free agency. The Patriots do get involved in free agency,
Speaker 1: and they have They just are not first or second
Speaker 1: day type people. Hdney Harrison was a free agent. Danny
Speaker 1: Amondola was a free agent. How they get Randy Randy
Speaker 1: was in trade range, right, But they are into the
Speaker 1: business of at that time making moves. But that's not right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. So that's kind of been
Speaker 1: that whole thing with Scott pel In. Their philosophy is
Speaker 1: supposed to that Mike Raber when he came over the Steelers.
Speaker 1: So you know, they've gotten involved in the free agency.
Speaker 1: Their whole thing was just how are we going to
Speaker 1: do it? They feel like, hey man, that first or
Speaker 1: second day when the dudes to make it the big
Speaker 1: large change, we're not there. So so basically, hey, when
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Speaker 1: saying that's so the Patriots got in, they just don't
Speaker 1: get in high. I think we're I guess I'm asking,
Speaker 1: you know, for for what we're talking about a high
Speaker 1: profile bringing in somebody high profile, not a guy that's
Speaker 1: a free agent that could come in. It just we're
Speaker 1: gonna we signed so and so because he was out
Speaker 1: of a contract with another team. We're I think we're
Speaker 1: talking about making a splash, like one of the top corners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the National football Yeah, back to me on the
Speaker 1: West coast number? What number I'm saying it isn't coming.
Speaker 1: Did he go to Florida State? Yeah, with the floor.
Speaker 1: I got nothing to do with this. I'm not even here,
Speaker 1: not even here. I'm not here. I'm not hopefully hopefully
Speaker 1: hopefully there. There are there are some moves that are
Speaker 1: there are in the plans to be made, uh, that
Speaker 1: show that the Cowboys are really trying to make a
Speaker 1: move and do whatever they need to get that Championship's
Speaker 1: not saying go out and signed three four people, but
Speaker 1: there can be one or two pieces that you look
Speaker 1: here saying you know what, this is not only gonna
Speaker 1: fill a need, this allows us come draft egg to
Speaker 1: make the moves we need to What position is that though?
Speaker 1: If you could pick a position, what position would that be?
Speaker 1: I keep talking about the defensive tackles spot because I
Speaker 1: still believe you need to stop the run. And when
Speaker 1: I look in this division, I see three football teams
Speaker 1: that want to run the ball. And when I think about,
Speaker 1: how however, you've been able to beat the Cowboys recently,
Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, it's been running football. So to me,
Speaker 1: what's the number one Key, and I also go back
Speaker 1: just being a historian of the team. All five Super
Speaker 1: Bowl teams had fantastic defenses and the d line was
Speaker 1: super strong. Hall of famers, Pro Bowlers. I mean that
Speaker 1: you you were not beating the Cowboys up front, those
Speaker 1: those teams, those doomsday teams the Jimmy had put together.
Speaker 1: They were up front, they could stop the run. You
Speaker 1: weren't going off on these dudes. I still believe in
Speaker 1: today's passing NFL this still matters because you look at
Speaker 1: some of the quarterbacks in this game. For instance, for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, dude didn't like that rush up. Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: doesn't like that rush up the middle. So to me,
Speaker 1: that's where heck, if you ask me, what am I
Speaker 1: going to do? I still feel like you need to
Speaker 1: fix your D line. Could our defensive won us a
Speaker 1: championship this season? No, you don't think so? No, I disagree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I disagree. We just saw it. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many points got put up in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It was like they were just playing all out the
Speaker 1: defensive football. You do. We have the players to make
Speaker 1: those big time plays in those moments when when you're
Speaker 1: not stopping the run, or when you when you just
Speaker 1: need that one big stop. I think we had those
Speaker 1: playmakers on our squad. I think we got Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: we got d Law, we got Trey munt Diggs. When
Speaker 1: it comes down to you gotta be able to score
Speaker 1: some points. You need the weapons to say, hey man,
Speaker 1: when everything is falling apart, where are we going? And
Speaker 1: I think both of those teams in that game had
Speaker 1: those pieces. Well. Of course Jalen Hurts was the one
Speaker 1: because he can do with his arms in his legs.
Speaker 1: But then you got Travis Kelsey and you got a
Speaker 1: guy like Patrick Mahomes in the game when I when
Speaker 1: the defenses falling apart. So I think you just gotta
Speaker 1: have that that type of offense to where you can
Speaker 1: lean on something. It's something you can lean on all
Speaker 1: when all of else is falling. Okay, I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But also, and this is one of my things.
Speaker 1: I look at Andy Reid and how he revamped his
Speaker 1: off and this man lost Tyree Hill, you know, and
Speaker 1: he figured out how to scheme up some stuff and
Speaker 1: get folks rolling here. I ain't going to believe that.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Now, I'm not just gonna give him the
Speaker 1: James Washington. I' gonna go ahead and give some real talent. Okay,
Speaker 1: I give James watching, but we like our guys. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him some talent. But in free agency,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find I need a rock up here,
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to find um. When we talk about
Speaker 1: Odell Backham, who's currently a free agent, who they spoke
Speaker 1: to you before, Okay, you're talking about to me, that's
Speaker 1: the right thing. Okay, let's look for someone like that,
Speaker 1: which I believe that can They can do both, Danny
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, yeah, you could do both. So I'm
Speaker 1: not opposed to what I'm saying. You got people, man,
Speaker 1: you see when they run successful, then it's I just
Speaker 1: don't want you to get away from the old line
Speaker 1: because I've been talking about this for many years, and
Speaker 1: I think going back to what you're saying about Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: Andy Reid has the best he got the best hand
Speaker 1: in the casino. He has Patrick Mahomes and whoever else,
Speaker 1: but it starts with Patrick Mahomes and so you take
Speaker 1: that into consideration, and that's a hell of a foundation
Speaker 1: to build around. I do believe our defense was was
Speaker 1: good enough uh to support. I just think our offense failed,
Speaker 1: you know, I think our running game failed once Tony
Speaker 1: Poler went down. All of those things that we saw happen.
Speaker 1: Our big playability was was stymy and the interceptions played
Speaker 1: a big part of running game. And we didn't take
Speaker 1: care of the ball and we didn't take it. So
Speaker 1: all of those things was a recipe for us not
Speaker 1: being able to actually get to the championship. Uh. And
Speaker 1: you see Kansas City, even with their offense, I don't
Speaker 1: think you look at their defense say that was the
Speaker 1: most dominating defense you ever see. They have one guy,
Speaker 1: Jo Jowels in the middle. That was it. Can I
Speaker 1: get that guy? Show you get everybody walls dog we
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Speaker 1: have one guy? Do we superstar? Do we not have
Speaker 1: our one guy? We do? We gotta do? We got
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