1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Show from South Florida. Yesterday, Donald Trump will with us 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: encourage you to go listen to the third hour of 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: the program for that full interview. You search out my 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: name Clay Travis and search out buck Sexton. You'll be 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: able to listen to that anywhere on your free time. Crazily, 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: we're two months, two months, two weeks from Thanksgiving, and 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: I think it's going to sneak up on a lot 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: of people. It's inn early Thanksgiving this year, but I 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: know many of you are going to be on the road. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: You're going to be out and about for Thanksgiving, for Christmas, 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: holiday season, for New Year's. All of that likely to 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: play in to your complex schedule, So go ahead and 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: sign up for the podcast. You'll also get Carol Markowitz, 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: who we ran into down here a couple of days ago, 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: does incredible work for the New York Post. Also a 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: former New Yorker who has fled to the free state 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: of Florida. And you can also get Tutor Dixon, who 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: is doing fabulous work up in Michigan all as a 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: part of that network. Now we mentioned the debate last night. 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: I wanted to hit these two cuts because Buck, you 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: and I watched this debate together with our wives last night. 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: I actually missed everybody reacted to Viveke Ramaswami saying that 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley was basically Dick Cheney in three inch heels, 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 2: which I thought was the insult. He actually was making 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: fun of Ron DeSantis because the Trump campaign has said 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: that DeSantis wears lifts too to try to make himself taller, 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: which is a ridiculous story. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: Welcome to politics. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: But listened to this Aveke line, and then we were 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: referencing Nicki Haley's response, which didn't come for a while, 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: but also didn't land necessarily as effectively as I think 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: she wanted. 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: But here's the Veke's attack. 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: Corrupt politicians in both parties spent trillions, killed millions, made 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: billions for themselves in places like Iraq and Afghanistan fighting 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: wars that sent thousands of our sons and daughters, people 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: my age to die in wars that did not advance 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: anyone's interests. Adding seven trillion dollars to our national debt, 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: you have the likes of Nikki Haley, who stepped down 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: from her time at the UN bankrupt or in debt 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: was her family. Then she becomes a military contractor, she 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: joins the board of Boeing and otherwise and is now 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: a multi millionaire. So I think that that's wrong when 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: Republicans do it, our Democrats do it. That's the choice 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: we face. Do you want a leader from a different 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: generation who's going to put this country first? Or do 50 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 4: you want Dick Cheney in three inch heels? 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 5: Two of them? 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so. 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: Reaction, Yeah, the reaction started because he says, in which case, 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: we've got two of them on the stage. Now Lester 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: Holt steps in there. I would like I think it 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: would be fun. I bet you would enjoy it too. 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: I think it would be fun to moderate a debate. 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: My number one rule would be steer towards conflict. So 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: right there. A lot of times I think buck that 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: these debate moderators have their topics laid out and they 61 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: are going to go to them no matter what the 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: answers are. 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: It's almost like they've got a checklist. 64 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: So Lester Holt didn't immediately go to Nicky Haley, and 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: even the way he cut off, cut away from that line, 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: which was designed to be an attack at DeSantis. I 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: didn't even realize it. I texted you, you know, an 68 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: hour after the debate when this, when that video clip 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: was shared. Here was Nicky Haley's response that came probably 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes. 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: Later, Kevin Hanley, would you please answer yes. 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 6: I'd first like to say they're five inch heels, and 73 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 6: I don't wear them unless you can run in them. 74 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 5: We got two of you on school. 75 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 6: A thing that I will say is I wear heels 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: or not for a fashion statement. They're for ammunition. 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: The first one were well, the second one fell flat. 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: Now you can tell that this is the story of 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 5: last night's debate, was these two going back and forth, 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 5: but on the policy side of it. For a second 81 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 5: here actually, because we mentioned some people have been saying, 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: why is Buck asking the just rage question about about 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: the navy? 84 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: How many ships in the navy? 85 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 5: Here is Hugh Hewitt, who was the conservative representative of 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 5: the moderators. 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: He's a radio host. Listen to what he says, play 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: twenty seven. 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: For decades and decades, the American military, but primarily the 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 7: United States Navy, has deterred an attack from China to 91 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 7: the island state of Taiwan, that Ronald Reagan's navy of 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 7: six hundred. 93 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: Ships is gone. 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 7: Now the question to you is, and I'll start with 95 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 7: the ambassador Haley, because you were in President Trump's cabinet. 96 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 7: His goal was a three hundred and fifty five ship navy. 97 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 7: That's what he pushed for. He got the three hundred. 98 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 7: It's now at two hundred and ninety one. Is that 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 7: big enough to deter and if necessary, defeat an invasion 100 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 7: of Taiwan? 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: Okay as a very specific question, and then he ended 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: up we don't even need to hear, but he kept 103 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: pushing for this the specific number, you know, sub three 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 5: hundred Reagan six hundred. There are some things that should 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: be taken into account. One play is that not all 106 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 5: ships are the same. Yes, so the ship number, I 107 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: mean you could have, you know, the the SS like 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: Mino or what is that what it was? They got 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 5: min Yes, Willigans Island, thank you. I mean you could 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: have a very minor ship, or you could have a 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 5: billion dollar We're. 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: In Miami right now, bucket, I walked by a harbor. 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: There is a lot of difference between some of those 114 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: There yachts. There are boats, and there are yachts. 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: You know, there are there are sailing there are you know, 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: there are are scooters and there are sailing ships. So 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: it's kind of a weird question in that respect too. 118 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: I think it gets a little bit more. But here's 119 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 5: what I actually was trying to take from this. There 120 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 5: was a lot of time spent about how, you know, 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: how much money we should be giving. 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 3: I didn't hear anyone last night. 123 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 5: Including the VEC, and by all means, I'm going on memory, 124 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: so I could be wrong say that they would cut 125 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 5: off funding for Ukraine. The veg position himself as the 126 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 5: guy who is opposed to the establishment on this question, 127 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: and we will track down his response on this, because 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 5: this is along the same thing, but he's being asked 129 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: about funding, is being asked about how big the navy 130 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: should be. He said something about how corrupt Ukraine is 131 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 5: and how it's okay, sure, I mean, then that's interesting 132 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: to bring into the discussion. And Ukraine democrats have created 133 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 5: this like Ukraine utopia where it's this amazing democracy and 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 5: if it goes away, like the who the whole world 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: that's fallen apart, that's hysteria and that's nonsense. 136 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: But I did not hear a single person on that. 137 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: Stage say that they would stop effectively being the Arsenal 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 5: and Bank for Zelenski's Ukrainian resistance against Russia. 139 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: Am I missing that? I mean that there was, which 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: I think is interesting. 141 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Because they always Repidation to one hundred percent stand with 142 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: Ukraine as is the I still think the Democrat perspective. 143 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: But you see what I mean, They all dance around 144 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: it because they say, oh, we need accountability for the funds. Yeah, 145 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: oh okay, we need to accountability. Do you want to 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 5: give them the money or not? Is the real question? Yeah, 147 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: to keep funding them because it's already in the hundreds 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 5: of billions. Yeah, And I think that's maybe one area 149 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 5: where the pivot. 150 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: So I thought the start of the debate that everybody 151 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: on the stage looked phenomenal. I thought was pretty good 152 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: advertisement for the Republican Party as it pertained to Israel 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: in particular, because everybody speaks stridently as one voice to 154 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: defend the right of Israel to defend itself in the 155 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: Republican Party, and you don't have this cacophony of Hamas 156 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: and Palestinian sympathizers like the Democrat Party would have if 157 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: they were having a real debate on the stage right now, 158 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: but they didn't link them and they didn't allow that 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: discussion because I do think the Speaker of the House 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: has done a good job in saying, hey, we want 161 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: to fund Israel, but this is really not connected in 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: our minds to what's going on with Ukraine. 163 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: Now. 164 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley, Chris Christy and Tim Scott, I would say, 165 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: are definitively still in the We got to do as 166 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: much as we can to protect Ukraine. 167 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: But they don't really want to say it. 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's gotten less politically palatable. DeSantis Is, I would 169 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: say in the middle they, to his credit, has been 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: the most aggressive in saying I don't really think that 171 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Ukraine is our battle. 172 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 5: He criticizes Ukraine, but I mean I come across this 173 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: a lot, but people say, oh, you know what we're 174 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: doing with Ukraine, Ukraine's corrup why are we giving you 175 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: a crownles money? And you see this with with some 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: of the people on the right. But you say, okay, 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: would you stop, would you stop funding? 178 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 7: Yeah? 179 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: I mean that would be they don't want to say. 180 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 5: They don't want to say that, they don't want to 181 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 5: say that, yeah, and the people who want to keep 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 5: the funding going like to put these, oh, we need 183 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 5: we need accountability, and and there was something else too, 184 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: basically putting these uh like prefacing this a little bit, 185 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: putting in these additional measures. The fundamental question is are 186 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: we going to continue to have a blank check approach 187 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: to funding a Ukrainian fight that is currently in stalemate 188 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 5: with Russia? Is that what we are going to do 189 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 5: under a public the next presidency, assuming it's a Republican 190 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 5: I think that everyone hedges a little bit on this one, 191 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: is what I think Trump comes in, He's just like, 192 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: I'll end it. I'll sit down with it, and we'll 193 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 5: hash out an agreement, will end it. So that's his position. 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: You can say you like that or not, but that's 195 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 5: his position. 196 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are nervous there because 197 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: DeSantis got caught in an early interview saying that Ukraine 198 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: was a territorial dispute uh and the way that he 199 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 2: phrased that led to him getting attacked. 200 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: I think the donor. 201 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Class, frankly, is far more supportive of the money being 202 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: spent in Ukraine than the average base of the Republican 203 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: Party is so I thought that was an example of 204 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: one that they were trying to finesse and not have to. 205 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: To directly address. Uh. 206 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: One more thing, Buck that stood out to me. Leveg 207 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: seem very kind to DeSantis. Yes, now I mean he 208 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: made he. 209 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: Made the healed job. 210 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 5: But I mean that's that's a little bit of a 211 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 5: grade school thing. Yeah, I don't think that really. 212 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: I think now the analysis starts to become and this 213 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: is maybe at the bottom of this hour we can 214 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: have a discussion about it in earnest. Where would these 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: people's supporters go if they dropped out? For instance, I 216 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: think if Tim Scott dropped out, Trump told us yesterday, 217 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: and I think that's correct. I think Tim Scott would 218 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: endorse Donald Trump, and so most Tim Scott supporters, I 219 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: think would end. 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: Up aligned with Donald Trump. 221 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Chris Christy. If Chris Christy dropped out, none of his 222 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: supporters to the extent, you know, let's say a bouth 223 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: those guys, let's give him a round them up and 224 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: say they have five percent. None of Chris Christie's support 225 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: I don't believe would go to Trump. It's a very 226 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: anti Trump support. So would Chris Christy line up behind 227 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis or Nicky Haley. I think that's probably the 228 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: choice that he would find himself in. 229 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: And it seemed to me that there was a decent 230 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: amount of rapport between Christy and Nicky Haley. 231 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: It seemed like the Veke was actually very respectful of DeSantis. 232 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: But my natural inclination is almost all of the Vake 233 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: support would go to Trump. Now here's the challenge, Right, 234 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley, I think none of her support by and 235 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: large would go to Trump, whereas I think all of 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: DeSantis's support would go to Trump. The reason why I 237 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: bring this up is if your goal is to beat Trump, 238 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: how does the math work as you analyze this? Do 239 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: you agree with my like? I think we are right now? 240 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: In my mind, I think that based on the. 241 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 5: Numbers we're seeing it, it's almost. 242 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: Right now. 243 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: Whoever gets the swing here or there, it looks like 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 5: it's irrelevant that Trump has gone such a big leader Trump. 245 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: So that's the question I'm asking, Is there math that 246 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 2: would lead to somebody being able to beat It? 247 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: Would be right? 248 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: It would be math that you would have to be 249 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 5: able to do so to speak, the numbers would like 250 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: in the next month, right, I mean, what if you 251 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 5: look at this over the next three or four months 252 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: and going into Super Tuesday and all that, I think 253 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 5: it's too slow for it to matter. Yeah, you would 254 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 5: have to have these changes occur. You'd have to have 255 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: people dropping out before Christmas. I don't I don't think 256 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: anyone on that stage, with the possible exception of Chris Christy, 257 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 5: is going to drop out before at least at least 258 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: uh Iowa. 259 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: Here's what I would say, bucket is after this debate 260 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens in December. Again, I think 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: really it should just be DeSantis, Vivak, and Nicky Haley 262 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: on the stage in Tuscaloosa, Alabama for the next Republican debate. 263 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: The only game changer I can see is if Nicky 264 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: Haley and Ron DeSantis agreed to join together on a 265 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: unity ticket and they did it right now, Well. 266 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: That's what I mean by it would have to be 267 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 3: it would have to be all in. 268 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: You would have to sit down and change, and you 269 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: would have to challenge on that is one of them 270 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 2: would have to be like, yeah, I'm the number, I'm 271 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: the president, and the other one would have to be 272 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: the vice president. That's the only look I mean and 273 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: you guys out there listening, tell me if you disagree, right, 274 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: just look at this strategically, not as a die hard 275 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: supporter of any particular candidate. Just look at it from 276 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: as a math equation. 277 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm looking at it right now, right 278 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 5: the latest as of November sixth. Here real clear politics. 279 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 5: Oh this is actually a trip. 280 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: This is true and really what it What we have 281 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: to have is the Iowa, Iowa and New Hampshire. 282 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Here's what you could say. 283 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 5: Pretty Trump is at forty four right now, and Trafalgar 284 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: Trafalgars are very generally considered a pro Trump, not not disparaging. Yeah, 285 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 5: a pro Trump or or you know, lean Lean's Trump 286 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: is what. 287 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: I should say. 288 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: In the polling, Trump is at forty four. DeSantis and 289 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: Hanley together would be at thirty three. Okay, so if 290 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: you had a combined the two of them and you 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: got to a thirty three or thirty three percent support, 292 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: that would be But I think, uh, you know, I 293 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 5: don't know. 294 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: So here here's my I don't know that anybody has 295 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: the uh the ability to put together this equations. 296 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: At nine in this by the way, but Tim Scott's 297 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: holding on to a pretty pretty sizable chunk of folks. 298 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: I think Tim Scott is going to endorse Trump, and 299 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: I think he'll do it sooner RNLA. 300 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: You get Trump over fifty, and that's see this. 301 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Is where this is where this is where the math 302 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: becomes interesting because I think the only way that you 303 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: could look I don't think Nicky Haley or Ron DeSantis 304 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: are going to drop out right. I think the only 305 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: way that anybody could give Trump a run at this 306 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: point if you look at the polling is if Nicky 307 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Haley and Ron DeSantis agreed to have a unity ticket 308 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: designed to beat Trump, could you. 309 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: I mean they would have to do like a coin 310 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: flip or something there would. 311 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: Neither one of them would ever buy temperament or career. 312 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: Aspiration except the Vice president. Well, it'd have to be. 313 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: That's where you look at it from Trump's perspective. If 314 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking at it from Trump's perspective. Last night, the 315 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: Veke winning that debate, in my opinion for Veke one, 316 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: I understand that could be polarizing. 317 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: Some people might not. 318 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: That's the best result for Trump because it maintains kind 319 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: of a three headed monster where there isn't somebody who 320 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: is like like coming out of this debate. 321 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: Rama Swam is only at five in this Trafalgar. Oh, 322 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, this is I pardon me. I thought I 323 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: was looking at the average. This is Jiowa. It's just Iowa. 324 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just Iowa. The des Moines register came out, 325 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: they had trumpet like forty three. If you combined, and 326 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: I think DeSantis and Haley were both at like sixteen 327 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: something like that. If you combined DeSantis and Haley in 328 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: an Iowa joint ticket, then they could give Trump a 329 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: real run. I don't think either's willing to do it, 330 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to need to see a 331 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: result from Iowa and New Hampshire where one of them 332 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: is a clear number two in order for the other 333 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: one to get out. 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Yes, I'm a South Florida resident. 360 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: Now I should say it properly. I'm sure I've mispronounced. 361 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 5: For some reason, new Yorkers say Nevada. I'm telling you, 362 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 5: we're all trained to say the name of that. I 363 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 5: won't say it improperly because the Nevadaens come come after me. 364 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 5: But I think for some reason, New Yorkers or Northeasterns, 365 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: we all say that stayed wrong starting out, and eventually 366 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: we get we get corrected. But yes, Hyaliah is where 367 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 5: Trump did his rally last night. Thank you for all 368 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: of the VIP the pronunciation police this game for me, 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: they pulled me over. 370 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: This show cares about pronunciation more than any radio show 371 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: in the history of mankind. 372 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: You know, how about a high five once in a while, 373 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 5: for I think we probably have bigger words of the 374 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 5: day on this show than any other radio show out there. 375 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: Most of the words we pronounce correctly, I get a 376 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: lot wronger. I'll be uh, I'll be transparent. By the way, 377 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: Nelda also wanted to email me what time we got here. 378 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: It's no time, Clay, you got to read mine. 379 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: I will talk about Nelda's email to me here in 380 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: a moment and explain the latest controversy that has that 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: has arisen, But I want to tell you guys all 382 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: about LifeLock and what a huge difference it can make 383 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: if you are not protected online. 384 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: Banks. 385 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: Look, they're not as rock solid as you would like. 386 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: They have vulnerabilities, especially online, especially with what's happened for 387 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: instance at Flagstar Bank based in the Midwest, three data 388 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: breaches since twenty twenty one and now eight hundred thousand 389 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: customers info at risk out there. 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Clearly, I think there is 406 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: a top tier that consists of Nicky Haley, Ron DeSantis, 407 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: and vek Ramaswami. I think then you have Tim Scott, 408 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: Chris Christy, and Doug Bergham and Asa Hutchinson whoever's still 409 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: in They're like on a totally different tier. So you 410 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: have top tier, mid tier, and you know, sort of 411 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: afterthoughts at this point, if you weren't on the stage, 412 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say you're an afterthought. I 413 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: think anybody was bad, but I think Tim Scott and 414 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: Chris Christy need to at this point be contemplating what 415 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: their exit strategy is. And so of the five people 416 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: on the stage, Buck tell me if you agree with this. 417 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: I think Tim Scott would endorse Donald Trump. I think 418 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: most Tim Scott supporters would be Donald Trump supporters to 419 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: a certain extent. Chris Christy would not endorse Trump. He 420 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: would be a DeSantis or Nicky Haley guy. I'm not 421 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: sure which one he would be. And here's where the 422 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: math really gets interesting. I think most Ron DeSantis supporters, 423 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: if Ron DeSantis were not in the race, would vote 424 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. 425 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: Do you buy that? Buck? 426 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: I think that's why the DeSantis Trump battle has been 427 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: somewhat more toxic than any of the others, is because 428 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: they're really fighting for a lot of the same supporters. 429 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: And so if Ron DeSantis tomorrow said, hey, you know what, guys, 430 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna focus on being governor of Florida, I think 431 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: most DeSantis supporters would go to Trump. 432 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: Do you buy that? Like, instead of anybody else that's 433 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: in the race man a majority? 434 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 5: Yes, not all, though, I think there are some people 435 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: who are DeSantis voters who are who really want a 436 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 5: Trump alternative. Yeah, I mean, I'm just guessing. I'm spitballing. 437 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 5: I would think that's maybe thirty percent of de Santis 438 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: voter something like. 439 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think seventy five, twenty five. That's not crazy, 440 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: all right. The vague supporters, I think would almost all 441 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: go to Trump. One hundred You agree with that, I 442 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: mean almost one hundred percent? 443 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah. 444 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: Now, the one to me that is interesting is I 445 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: don't think most Nicky Haley supporters would go to Trump. 446 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: I think most Nicky Haley supporters are in the anti 447 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: Trump category and they would go to another non Trump candidate. 448 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: So that's kind of my assessment here in general. I'm 449 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: curious if all of you out there would agree with that, 450 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: because that is my analysis in terms of to me, 451 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: the only way Trump could get beaten right now, based 452 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: on the polls is if Ron DeSantis and Nicky Haley 453 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: joined together. And if I were arguing over who should 454 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: be president, my argument from DeSantis would be, look, if 455 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: I drop out, Trump's gonna win. Whereas if Nicky Haley 456 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: were to drop out, I think a lot of Nicky 457 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: Haley supporters would go to non Trump affiliated candidates. So 458 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: that's kind of the big picture analysis that I would 459 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: say is in play here. But Vanessa in South Carolina, 460 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: you disagree on some level about Nikki Haley. 461 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 6: I do disagree a little bit. You know, Trump was 462 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 6: my first ever Republican vote in twenty sixteen. 463 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: Who did you vote before that? You were an Obama 464 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: voter or you just were disaffected and didn't vote at all. 465 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 6: I was diehard Democrats. 466 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 5: Really, And now you're listening to Clay and Buck, so 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 5: you have learned a lot in life and are a 468 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: very wise person. 469 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: So what made you switch Vanessa? 470 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 8: Honestly? 471 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 6: Obama? And when before Trump even ran, you know, I 472 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 6: kept saying, God, if Trump ran, I don't care if 473 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 6: you bring a Republican, I vote for him. 474 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: He's got my vote. 475 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 6: I just love the man. I think he's got our 476 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 6: country best interest at heart. He's a great man. And 477 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 6: then the more it went on, I didn't even want 478 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 6: Trump to run again because I am so sick of 479 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: the witch hunt. It is a constant battle and it's ridiculous. 480 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 6: I mean it just I won't even vote Democrat anymore. 481 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: I'm so sick of the party. It just they discussed 482 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 6: me any So you're. 483 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: In South Carolina, which is a huge battleground with Tim Scott, 484 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: with Nicky Haley, and with Trump. So if you're still 485 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: a Trump person, how would you assess the South Carolina dynamic? 486 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 6: Well, I love Nicki Haley. I think she is an 487 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 6: amazing woman. She did a lot for us. I didn't 488 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 6: even vote for her, but I love her, and she's 489 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 6: got my support in this race right now, She's got 490 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 6: my support. However, if she drops out, it's Trump. 491 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. 492 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: Now, what did you think of the Nicky Haley Vivak 493 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: scuffle last night. 494 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 6: Oh you know, I heard the one lady call her 495 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: a bitch, and I'm like, you know what, you got 496 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: all these men up there, and they can do whatever 497 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 6: they want, say whatever they want. Nobody calls them a bitch. 498 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 6: But yet she's got a mind of her own and 499 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 6: all of a sudden she's a bitch. Come on, She's. 500 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 3: Got a lot of b word all the shows. Yeah, 501 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: thank you for the call. By the way, I think 502 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: it's really interesting. 503 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: My argument, Buck was if Trump called if Trump said 504 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: to the vak Ramaswaman or anybody else on that stage, 505 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: your scum, nobody would call him a bitch. Nobody would 506 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: really call him a bastard, right, I don't think. Uh well, 507 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: so let me take that back. Some would, but they're 508 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: the people who are offended by violations of political decorum. 509 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: The diehard Trump people would actually be more exciting. I'm 510 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: gonna tell you this. I don't think I don't think 511 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: any Republicans should be calling another Republican scum on the debate. 512 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: Stay, yeah, I'm just gonna say that. I think that's 513 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 5: that's say you can call. I mean, look, if you 514 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 5: can call someone a liar. You can call someone a 515 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: phone or you can call someone a fraud, but call 516 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 5: someone scum. 517 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: Is a little to me. That's to me. 518 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 5: And again maybe maybe i'm you know, people have said 519 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: I'm too polite. Uh, that's possible. Some people are saying 520 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: the Buck is too polite, But that's possible. I want 521 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 5: to take this call. 522 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: Though exciting for me. I hope he's still there. 523 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: There is allegedly another Buck in the state of Florida 524 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 5: who has called in good to talk to you, my brother, 525 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 5: Are you sir? 526 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 8: Hi am fantastic? How are you guys? 527 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. You got a great name. What's on 528 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: your mind? Buck? 529 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 8: So Trump is far and away leading the polls everybody. 530 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 8: I mean, you have to be under a rock to 531 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 8: not understand that. Yeah, but the DC machine is a 532 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 8: living organism. The DC machine, all it wants to do 533 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 8: is live and expand and then spent four years with 534 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 8: anonymous leaks, anonymous sources, impeachment trials. Why in God's name 535 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 8: will to put our country back through that again in 536 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 8: the next election. 537 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: So who's your guy or who's your goal? 538 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 8: Defantis Gabbard that would be the ticket too. 539 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, that is interesting. Thank you for the call. DeSantis. 540 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: Tulsi Gabbard, Matt in Rockville, Maryland. You were talking about 541 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: Tim Scott and Chris Christy and what might happen in 542 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: the wake of this debate, which I don't think really 543 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: rocked the political universe and altered where they currently stand. 544 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: What do you think my might Matt? Sorry? 545 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 9: The uh, well, the with with Nicky Hilly and Vivick Gwamaswami, 546 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 9: it felt like they were getting a little more personal 547 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 9: just because they needed something to rock the boat. 548 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 8: Uh. 549 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 10: But when it comes to Tim Scott, you know, we 550 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 10: saw the DNC moving their primary to South Carolina, Jim 551 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 10: Cliburn being the king maker. We've seen black support for 552 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 10: Trump uh getting to record highs, and we hear people 553 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 10: on the left like Sunny Hawston saying, you know, replacing 554 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 10: a black VP, well, we won't forgive you and we 555 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 10: won't support you. And I think it all lined the 556 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 10: stars aligned. Tim Scott drops out Frum says, you know what, 557 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 10: he's gonna be my VP pick, and that takes so 558 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 10: much fire and power out of the d nc's claims 559 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 10: of how great a black vice president is and how 560 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 10: important South Carolina is, because then what the Republicans can 561 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 10: do is say, look, we have the exact same thing, 562 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 10: a black person from South Carolina, and you put those 563 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 10: two on the stage between Kamala Harris and Tim Scott, 564 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 10: and he will wipe the floor with her. 565 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: I think Tim Scott would do well against Kamala Harris. Again. 566 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: My only concern on that Trump's gonna pick a VP. 567 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: I don't like the idea of picking a VP because 568 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: of cosmetic diversity. If Trump thinks Tim Scott is the 569 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: best possible option for me and he's the most ready. 570 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: Remember Trump will be seventy eight too. If he thinks Tim. 571 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: Scott is the most ready to be the next president 572 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: of the United States, then I'm fine with it. 573 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that the politics of this is my argument. 574 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 2: Look, if I think Trump should pick I've said this 575 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: for a long time, someone who guarantees him a state. 576 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: But I don't think the politics of Trump picking a woman, 577 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: or Trump picking a minority man, or whoever he picks, 578 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Unless he picks someone in a toss 579 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: up state that's going to deliver a state, I don't 580 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: know that the VP moves the needle very much for Trump. 581 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: Look, I've heard people say who are close to Trump 582 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: that his number one concern with his vps and someone 583 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: that he really likes to hang out with. 584 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: So hey, you know we asked him. 585 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 5: We made news yesterday or you did by asking him 586 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 5: about whether Tucker would be his VP, and that people were, 587 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 5: you know what, it was great about it because fun 588 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: for us to just talk about. And you and I 589 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: both know and like Tucker as well as no one 590 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: like Trump. But the left just just even just even 591 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: saying that out loud, all these leftis who were. 592 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: Like, it's the worst thing that could possibly happen. That's 593 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: legitimately headlines. 594 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: You recommended the key Master and the Gatekeeper or whatever 595 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: from Ghostbusters get together. 596 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's a good analogy. By the way, let's 597 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: close up this this segment. Randy in Houston, Texas. Randy, 598 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: what you got? 599 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 11: Okay, So you guys were talking about the math of 600 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 11: the election, well a little bit ago. Yes, I say 601 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 11: it's just time or Trump to go ahead and pair 602 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 11: up with the vake because evidently he proved last night 603 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 11: and the debate before that he can be the mouthpiece 604 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 11: to go against all establishment media, the DC swamp, all 605 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 11: of it and point out what they're doing and why 606 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 11: again answer. 607 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: Go. 608 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 11: Look, here are the you guys won't do it or 609 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 11: your buddy Jesse Kelly won't do it, which all three 610 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 11: of y'all would be the greatest press secretary of all time. 611 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 11: Make him the VP and go ahead and say you 612 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 11: know what. 613 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 614 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: First of all, thank you, Jesse Kelly as press secretary 615 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: would be amazing. 616 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: I would. I would agree with that. 617 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 9: I would. 618 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: I don't know what I could do to try to 619 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: make that happen. Maybe we'll talk to Trump next time. 620 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: First of all, he'd be the tallest press secretary in history, 621 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: and he'd be hitting his head as he walked in 622 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: the room every day. And second of all, it would 623 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: be the funniest press secretary you've ever seen, for sure, 624 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: and he would be crushing commies left and right. 625 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: We'll hit this. 626 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: I've actually got the odds for who you can bet 627 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: on as the favorites right now for Trump's VP choice, 628 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: and the numbers are moving a decent amount. 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I'm gonna talk 674 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: to you. 675 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: Coming up for the next hour, a little bit about 676 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: some updates on the Israel Hamas war, and a really, 677 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: really I think interesting and worthwhile exchange between Douglas Murray 678 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: and Piers Morgan on Hamas and these Hamas protests and 679 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: all the stuff that we're seeing. McClay, first, you wanted 680 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: to line up what the betting odds are, right, the 681 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 5: betting odds that we're seeing. Yeah, you're for VP at 682 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 5: this point in time. I wonder if there's some interesting 683 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 5: folks in the mix. 684 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 10: Yeah. 685 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of talk now about who Trump 686 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: is going to pick his VP. I think even more 687 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: coming out of this debate, as it's clear several guys 688 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: and maybe some gals are falling out of the equation. 689 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: And this surprised me. Christine Oham's right now a substantial 690 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: favorite over everyone else to be Trump's VP. Really Yeah, 691 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: so now these are not none of these are huge favorite. 692 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: That much lately in this context. 693 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: Second place, though, Nicky Haley, these are gambling odds markets. 694 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: You can bet on who you think is going to 695 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: be the VP. 696 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley, I was saying, if Ron DeSantis paired with 697 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley, that would be a challenge to Trump. Trump 698 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: could also just once and for all in the Republican 699 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: debate against anybody else by if Nicky Haley, for instance, 700 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: came on with him Tim Scott in third place. We've 701 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: had people talking about this. Elist Stephanic and then the 702 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: vag Ramaswami is the five most likely people for Donald 703 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: Trump to pick as. 704 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: His running mate. 705 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: I will say this, Buck, and I know you noticed 706 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: it too, but I don't think we talked about it 707 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: on the air Trump other than Asa Hutchinson. I don't 708 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 2: think Trump actually took a shot at anybody on the 709 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: show with Us yesterday who's running for president against him. 710 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: And I definitely he didn't mention Nicki Haley, didn't mention 711 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis. It didn't feel like he was even almost 712 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: the opinion that the race is still going on. 713 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 5: Can I tell you I'll make a prediction here, and 714 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: maybe this will be a foolish one on the line, 715 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 5: but I feel pretty confident in it that if Trump 716 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 5: secures the Republican nomination, which I know it's not over 717 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: and there's Iowa and all that, all those provisos fine, 718 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: but I mean he's up by forty or whatever it 719 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: is points right now, he secures the Republican nomination, by 720 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 5: the time he's giving speeches and out there in the 721 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 5: stump next summer, he'll be talking about what a great 722 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: Governor Ron DeSantis is and what a phenomenal UN Ambassador 723 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: Nicki Haley and Governor Niki Haley was. I think you'll 724 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 5: see that switch happen because one thing about Trump, you're 725 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 5: on the wrong side of him. It's not fun. But 726 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 5: there's always room for people to come back on the 727 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 5: Trump train. You've seen that if you're if you want 728 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: to combine with him against the communists, he always leaves 729 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 5: that door open. 730 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: No one has said anything as nasty as what Ted 731 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: Cruz said about him during the twenty sixteen points. 732 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 5: We talked about this or what he said about Ted 733 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 5: Kruse and vice. Yeah, and Ted was a staunch ally 734 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: and advocate of the MAGA movement and the president for 735 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 5: four years of his first term, much to Senator Cruz's credit. 736 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 5: I think and character that he was willing to put 737 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 5: aside some of the petty stuff that he could have 738 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 5: held onto. But I'm just saying I think you'll see that. 739 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 5: But look, maybe Ron DeSantis wins the nomination. I understand 740 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 5: that's possible. But if Trump wins the nomination, before before 741 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 5: even the votes are counted for the general election, he'll 742 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 5: be talking about what a great governor Ronda Santis is 743 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 5: because he is a great governor. 744 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 745 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: And I do think you'll see most people come together, 746 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of our listeners who are really aggressively 747 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: on one team right now, I think we'll all come 748 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: back to the Republican team. 749 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: I've been saying that for months. 750 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: I get it. Everybody's fired up, everybody's passionate. They decide 751 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: that you're not the right person, and then they're never 752 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: going to vote for Trump or they're never vote for DeSantis. 753 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: Those have been the most I would say aggressively combative 754 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: of the Republican primary candidates so far in terms of 755 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: going back and forth, at least what I've seen, and 756 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: I think by Junior July when all this is over, 757 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: which is not much longer six seven months, because the 758 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 2: reality is, look, if the Sands is not the nominee, 759 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: he's going to run in twenty eight and he's going 760 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: to need a lot of the people who voted for 761 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: Trump potentially against him to be supporting him in twenty eight. 762 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: And I think that's true for Nicki Haley and Vivek Ramaswami, 763 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's very likely that this is 764 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: the last time that whoever loses is going to be 765 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 2: running for president.