Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Sallie and Chris
Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Now here's Chris Johnson. I'm back kJ Live
Speaker 1: in the building. I hope y'all are good out there.
Speaker 1: Another fire episode on the way. Today's guest on the show.
Speaker 1: He's a former professional basketball player, the guy that has
Speaker 1: made a huge difference on the southern California basketball scene
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years through mentoring working folks out,
Speaker 1: developing players, and influencing kids in the right way. He's
Speaker 1: now the head boys varsity basketball coach at Lynnwood High School.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Jason Crow Senior to the show. What ut
Speaker 1: j Crow? Are you feeling? Are you feeling thanks for
Speaker 1: having Jack? You know, feeling good? Man. I had a
Speaker 1: chance to come out on Sunday to the League presented
Speaker 1: by Compton Magic out at Westminster High School. Man got
Speaker 1: a chance to check out your crew, the latest iteration
Speaker 1: of Lynnwood High School. Jason Crow Jr. In the building,
Speaker 1: Chase Holly and others. Uh, the team is extremely impressive.
Speaker 1: You're extremely young. Let's talk a little bit about this season,
Speaker 1: the preparation that has gone into it and what you're
Speaker 1: looking forward to out of this group in twenty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know with this group you said, Um, we're relying
Speaker 1: heavily on five freshmen. I'm really close to starting all
Speaker 1: five of them. Yeah, we they played. You know, it's
Speaker 1: because we started it with the men. Took with these
Speaker 1: guys and the training and I got enamored by the
Speaker 1: unity of these guys of how they work. It wasn't
Speaker 1: it's not their talents, it's their desire to get out
Speaker 1: there and do whatever you ask them to do. And
Speaker 1: me coaching this my coaching experience having a group that
Speaker 1: like when you say, look, give me twenty miles, they
Speaker 1: take off. I'm like, hold, I'm just playing, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, they don't the trust the trust,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I've learned and coaching that
Speaker 1: from them. My experience with them has shown me that
Speaker 1: the trust is the most important ingredient because they do
Speaker 1: trust me. And so I tried to be prepared. I
Speaker 1: tried to give them as much as I can. I
Speaker 1: try to uh do that. But as far as our
Speaker 1: goals for this year, uh, you know, we want to
Speaker 1: come out there and want our leave. We we're gonna
Speaker 1: be in five double A, so you know, like we
Speaker 1: we we gotta go try to win it. I mean
Speaker 1: anything less would I believe would be disappointing. I mean
Speaker 1: this this year, we they changed our league model, so
Speaker 1: now we have an upper and lower league. So, uh,
Speaker 1: the pandemic, we should we shut down. So but what
Speaker 1: happened was we was d one, so we shut down.
Speaker 1: But what happened was three teams wanted up their playoffs
Speaker 1: standing and they gave us forfeits, knowing that we called
Speaker 1: off the season. But they registered forfeits. Okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: looking like, okay, they want to pull this stunt. But
Speaker 1: what it did, so it dropped us all the way
Speaker 1: back in divisions because of that thing. Because last year
Speaker 1: I knew come out of pandemic, said I got these
Speaker 1: five freshmen, I'm gonna throw them in. I don't care.
Speaker 1: So I didn't do any type of like wherever the
Speaker 1: school had come on the pandemic. You know, we were
Speaker 1: like we were guys were like our practice last year
Speaker 1: was like so basic and just trying to build confidence
Speaker 1: and enjoy the game. It was. Winning wasn't discussed, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It was all about giving your best.
Speaker 1: So we end up being in this position because of that.
Speaker 1: So now the so now our league is Fireball when
Speaker 1: the lower division with Fireball guard Warren, Um, Bell Flower
Speaker 1: and Norwalk. Okay, yeah, we need to win that. Like
Speaker 1: we're not trying to be all like this is we're
Speaker 1: gonna do our best. No, we need to win that. Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: When you talked about trust, and it sounds like like
Speaker 1: you know, when you're building a team, when you're building
Speaker 1: a squad, you put a lot of thought, you put
Speaker 1: a lot of take everything into consideration, you look out,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you're planning ahead for the future.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about trust in the hearing and now,
Speaker 1: how do you build that with a unit with so
Speaker 1: much youth and not a lot of senior leadership? You know,
Speaker 1: think it comes from building their relationships. Um, with all
Speaker 1: those kids, I have a personal relationship, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's a different relationship. So I coach every kid. I
Speaker 1: see people say some people have philosophy, I coach all
Speaker 1: the kids the same. I don't think that's possible. I
Speaker 1: coach everybody different. I coach everybody to what I believe
Speaker 1: is their goals that they said for themselves and the
Speaker 1: standard that I believe they can meet like I can't
Speaker 1: because I ask different things of different players, So how
Speaker 1: can I treat you the same when I'm asking different
Speaker 1: things of you? So I think just building those relationships
Speaker 1: and having and where you're showing them that you're invested
Speaker 1: in them as well, because I care about down the
Speaker 1: road for you, So I'm trying to prepare you for that,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, but I'm not trying to tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you to understand this is your
Speaker 1: career and I'm just here to help you as far
Speaker 1: as your career and your relation and your relationship and
Speaker 1: be and be a piece for you to rely on.
Speaker 1: You know. So now when it comes to us on
Speaker 1: this basketball team and what we're trying to complish together
Speaker 1: and how we prepare you know, we're gonna do it
Speaker 1: my way while you're in the space working in the
Speaker 1: space for this time, We're gonna do everything my way.
Speaker 1: How how much uh this kind of a two sided question,
Speaker 1: How fun satisfying has it been coaching J two Jason
Speaker 1: Crow Jr. Watching him come up? And then how much
Speaker 1: of a challenge has it been to kind of told
Speaker 1: the line between father and son. We've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of father and son coach player relationships in the past,
Speaker 1: some workouts, some don't. I wanted to get your opinion
Speaker 1: on on that aspect well as far as uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to make adjustments along the way, just like
Speaker 1: a father would. So a lot of people I've heard say, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta separate. Well, no, I'm not separate. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we come out there with daddy this. We're not
Speaker 1: that age anymore, like you know what I mean. We're
Speaker 1: not We're not teeing it daddy. We're not. We're not
Speaker 1: that age anymore, you know what I mean. So I'm
Speaker 1: not separating that i'm as father or even when he's
Speaker 1: in practice, because I'm a coach as well. So now
Speaker 1: I'm coaching and my demands of him are gonna be
Speaker 1: whatever they are that I expected. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: lower him and I'm not gonna you know, but what
Speaker 1: I learned that as a you have to grow just
Speaker 1: like a parent. You have to grow as a coach
Speaker 1: and how you deal with each player. This is a
Speaker 1: unique situation. So I have to grow that and its
Speaker 1: something It's on me. If I'm the leader, it's on
Speaker 1: me to let him know. You know, look, you're wrong here,
Speaker 1: but I understand you know, when I'm wrong, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: announced it. I shouldn't, you know, because you have certain
Speaker 1: things something you're like, look my fault. I mean, you
Speaker 1: gotta come back home like my fault. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But as far as the thing with the
Speaker 1: game and coach them as rewarded because he wanted this,
Speaker 1: you know, and he wanted to learn from me because
Speaker 1: I was already coaching it. Some people that see us
Speaker 1: now they think that I am so younger this that
Speaker 1: I started coaching with him. Oh, he's a product of
Speaker 1: the gym. He's a product of seeing players, of seeing
Speaker 1: the shackle for the saying behind me, how kids is
Speaker 1: seeing these guys coming in Bourbon day to where I'm like, look, man,
Speaker 1: you can shoot on the side courts, and he had
Speaker 1: the side courts. Then you look up and people are
Speaker 1: telling you, like, man, did you see him make fifty
Speaker 1: with verse laps in the road. I'm like looking over
Speaker 1: there and he's like five years old. He got everything English,
Speaker 1: both fans, I didn't you know what I mean? That's
Speaker 1: him wanting to be a part of it. So that's
Speaker 1: how we started, and that's how we're going to keep it.
Speaker 1: Like our ladship with the game is our love, you know,
Speaker 1: Like if I saw him, like I come downstairs, he's
Speaker 1: watching Dr Jack, you know, so remind me of me
Speaker 1: as a kid is searching, you know, and then he's
Speaker 1: a And it's still like we still have our one
Speaker 1: on one battles in the backyard. So it's still that.
Speaker 1: It's still that relationship, y'all. Still can you can he
Speaker 1: get you? Can he beat you consistently? Or are you
Speaker 1: not allowing that? Are you hacking? Are you fouling? Or
Speaker 1: you are you putting on the extra defense? And me
Speaker 1: talk to me, Jake, Well, I'm gonna tell you this
Speaker 1: right now. I mean the three dribbles is keeping us,
Speaker 1: keeping me, but I let them get uh the limited
Speaker 1: dribbles is all these these jerks and closing and start
Speaker 1: stop um, you know. But the backyard I got walls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't play the walls in the backyard. So right now,
Speaker 1: for right now, I've been letting them were in the
Speaker 1: backyard with it. I'm still I'm still king in the backyard.
Speaker 1: But in that in that gym with all that space
Speaker 1: and all that stuff to cover because he's a tough cover,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: active like the player against him. You gotta be actually
Speaker 1: working in the game because if you miss, you know,
Speaker 1: he can go off. So you gotta you know, but
Speaker 1: it's good like that. We still have that relationship. Like
Speaker 1: a morning I played one on one. It was fun, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it shows. I mean the thing that I think
Speaker 1: that stood out to me because I was my first
Speaker 1: time had seen him at this age and you know,
Speaker 1: after he's you know, been starting on the seventeen and
Speaker 1: Compton Magic and all that, you know, all that all
Speaker 1: that stuff. The thing that jumped out, man, was the strength.
Speaker 1: So there are a couple of plays on Sunday. You know,
Speaker 1: he's driving to the length, driving driving to the rack.
Speaker 1: Dudes were really trying to lock up. They were trying
Speaker 1: to strap up there down in the stands, chesting up,
Speaker 1: and he just yah, yeah yeah, and just work dudes
Speaker 1: all the way in. You know, ref call it. We're
Speaker 1: barely missing the and one that's what stood out that
Speaker 1: looked like he'd been playing against a dog on serious wiry,
Speaker 1: grown man strength. Having defender all his life. It reminded
Speaker 1: me of me playing against my dad growing up. Right,
Speaker 1: we're in the front yard man, and the block on
Speaker 1: the block in the post. So when I got when
Speaker 1: I got out there, and when I got it out
Speaker 1: into the real world against dudes my age regularly. So
Speaker 1: you already said, you already know. I see it. Not afraid,
Speaker 1: not at all. Once you go through, once you go through.
Speaker 1: And then the thing about the pops, we don't want
Speaker 1: to relinquish the crown. It's not that thing because we're serious.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna give you the That's a boy,
Speaker 1: I get out the way. I don't. You can't beat me.
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I mean? Like, if you
Speaker 1: beat me, you have to earn I'm not. You're not
Speaker 1: trying to like all that's fool your kid and thinking
Speaker 1: he can beat you and all this. No, you want
Speaker 1: him to go to hard route. You want him to
Speaker 1: go to hard route so he's fully prepared for whatever
Speaker 1: he sees. Jake, when you're coming up man, growing up
Speaker 1: out here in l A. The competitive nature of your character,
Speaker 1: the person you are. Where did you develop that? Where
Speaker 1: did you get that competitiveness to where you compete at
Speaker 1: just about everything there is. I think, uh, just you know,
Speaker 1: I was somebody asked me that, and I think it
Speaker 1: was just I wanted to impress my dad, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to get favor from people anywhere I go.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to. I guess it would being an
Speaker 1: only child, I always had to go somewhere else, right,
Speaker 1: So when you always have to go somewhere else, then
Speaker 1: you're outside looking in, right, because they have their little favorite.
Speaker 1: You're coming in. They don't pick you, so you always
Speaker 1: have to prove no, you're gonna pick me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you have to earn that. That's
Speaker 1: where I come. I come from playing everywhere, going all
Speaker 1: outside of my area, finding game and and doing that
Speaker 1: and and you know, and I think that's the element
Speaker 1: right now, that that I learned that I have to
Speaker 1: create for these guys, Right, I think when you see
Speaker 1: them play, you see that in them, right, Because you
Speaker 1: see guys that that some of the guys, if you
Speaker 1: see them what they're working with, they've been psyched into that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be strong and prepared to compete. You know.
Speaker 1: The skills will figure that out. But first things first
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be out here to compete. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find the way, we're gonna run faster to the ball.
Speaker 1: We're gonna out think we're gonna compete. And that's a
Speaker 1: skill right now, that's hard to teach because of the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, we're we're, we're, we're circling all that.
Speaker 1: This changed. I don't wanted to be a hater, but
Speaker 1: times have changed, right Like, when you think about it,
Speaker 1: there's no playground games Like I grew up catching the
Speaker 1: bus to Audubon to stay out there. They're out there.
Speaker 1: I'm going to fochet, you know, I'm going to different
Speaker 1: places in l a middle school's outdoor by myself to
Speaker 1: hope that doesn't exist. And when you go to those places,
Speaker 1: you have to win. If you don't win, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to play. You can shoot around on the other
Speaker 1: side baskets. You want to get into the game, you
Speaker 1: have to win, and then when you lose, you have
Speaker 1: to wait. And if you're young, you're not. You do
Speaker 1: not have next, No, you don't. You can't with nobody's asks.
Speaker 1: You don't have next, can't play right they got you
Speaker 1: can't play on his team and know everybody needs to win.
Speaker 1: So you think about how it's going now, and like
Speaker 1: I said, it's changed. I'm not trying to be but
Speaker 1: the kids are learning skill before the competitiveness, so that
Speaker 1: they put kind of like, you know, they learned that
Speaker 1: skill first, but then you have the game is five
Speaker 1: on five to win, so it's it's kind of like
Speaker 1: it's not fair to them. They're missing that step. Fox
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Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Who is it on one?
Speaker 1: Whose responsibility is that ja to teach these kids competitiveness,
Speaker 1: to instill some heart into these dudes. And from what
Speaker 1: I see, and we're not being haters, it's different. There's changed,
Speaker 1: But there's also a solution. There has to be a solution,
Speaker 1: Like these kids just they can't just grow up without
Speaker 1: heart or being competitive, Like what about it? Because I
Speaker 1: see them on their video games, so I see how
Speaker 1: competitive they are. Uh my son in particular, how competitive
Speaker 1: he was with video games, So why can't it carry
Speaker 1: over you know in the sport? I guess you know
Speaker 1: what it is is each one teach one because I
Speaker 1: was thinking, like it's hard to do a mass covering.
Speaker 1: But one of the problems we have is that the guys,
Speaker 1: the guys that that I really hurts my heart is
Speaker 1: that guys that have played the game and then they
Speaker 1: have kids, then they do the bs, they do all
Speaker 1: the like not being a leader to your son, not
Speaker 1: keeping it real. Not see we're not we're not We're
Speaker 1: we're we're not being reality with love. See I believe
Speaker 1: in that it's reality with love. I gotta be able
Speaker 1: to coach you, right, Yeah, So that's truth teller, truth teller,
Speaker 1: truth teller, each one teach one in the area. We
Speaker 1: have to be able to do that. We have to
Speaker 1: be able to be responsible for our areas. Everybody has
Speaker 1: to govern their part. And I think that's what we're
Speaker 1: not doing. Like you know, you have certain people, but
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do it. You can't play for me
Speaker 1: without without this you You're gonna quit the conditioning, the
Speaker 1: mental the toughness. I'm but I'm there to love you.
Speaker 1: I'm there to be there, you know. I Like I said,
Speaker 1: I give I spend time development each relationship with the
Speaker 1: kids that I have. I know all the kids. I
Speaker 1: know their problems, I know their strengths and o their weaknesses.
Speaker 1: That takes investment. That's why I don't even look. And
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to blame everybody because I
Speaker 1: know the requirements of what I'm trying to get accomplished
Speaker 1: to help these guys. So everybody might not have the time, energy,
Speaker 1: or or the willingness, but we can start off by
Speaker 1: being truth tellers and that to help. Right now, we're
Speaker 1: making it seem like you don't have to do that,
Speaker 1: you know, you know we can bypass that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's okay, Okay, I find it. I find it interesting
Speaker 1: now in today's in today's era that, um, there's just
Speaker 1: so many non truth tellers. It's almost like the truth
Speaker 1: or someone's real opinion is now taking his hate or
Speaker 1: you know, some type of agenda. I just want to
Speaker 1: know where did when did our basketball culture become so
Speaker 1: extremely sensitive? Because when I was coming up, Jay, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a big guy, so I was a little overweight, etcetera.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a basketball coach, There wasn't a person that
Speaker 1: didn't tell me I needed to lose weight if I
Speaker 1: wanted to be know, be good in this gay and
Speaker 1: achieve my top partitution. But you tell you tell a
Speaker 1: kid that nowadays, and you know, you may get canceled
Speaker 1: or you may be accused of being a bully or something.
Speaker 1: We have two voice. Damn, that's what it is, right,
Speaker 1: because what you're about to say is that you tell
Speaker 1: a kid that now, But look who's gonna Who's gonna
Speaker 1: get an intervene in that situation? The parents, parents, So
Speaker 1: the parents voice. Back in the day we played, the
Speaker 1: parents had zero voice. Your father are all time great,
Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. He has a voice.
Speaker 1: Why because Hall of Fame Lebron James father has a voice.
Speaker 1: Why he's Lebron James. He's greater than the coach, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So now everybody wants to be
Speaker 1: like LaVar. Lavarre came out and did this thing, and look,
Speaker 1: you can't knock him, but it made everybody think, like,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like Lavoire was no
Speaker 1: great player. Now he had some opportunity. But all these
Speaker 1: voices of parents, they're prominent, they're on social media and
Speaker 1: they have influence today. Right, you want to run your program,
Speaker 1: this one has the funding funding. I think that like
Speaker 1: the life blood of video and say, now you compromise
Speaker 1: one thing. You compromise one thing, you'll compromise another you don't.
Speaker 1: And that's what ended up happening to a lot of
Speaker 1: the coaches. They don't have the voice. They don't want
Speaker 1: to they don't have the voice, you know, because there
Speaker 1: they're sometimes these jobs to value on them has gone up,
Speaker 1: and the parents have a great voice now that they
Speaker 1: didn't have before they came. And was fully supporting the
Speaker 1: coaching situation. If your kid didn't play, you know, your
Speaker 1: kid didn't play, then you went and talked to him. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times it just was like, which
Speaker 1: you good? Another I was like, man, I want to
Speaker 1: go to Videss. He was like he was like, he
Speaker 1: was like, of course you do. You're weak. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my dad, you know what I mean? So like,
Speaker 1: of course you want to run pump? Well what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for the Yeah, let's get you going. No, no,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and he was right,
Speaker 1: he was right, he's what I'm saying. That was the
Speaker 1: thing that he could have been. We're living in a
Speaker 1: different era. He didn't have to probably use that terminology
Speaker 1: or whatnot we can, but he was a hundred percent correct.
Speaker 1: And that's why me and my father blameship. It's so
Speaker 1: tight to the thing because all that stuff I didn't
Speaker 1: I thought of. Realizing that more and more that ye
Speaker 1: me for everything. Yeah, you gotta appreciate your pops or
Speaker 1: or your father figure mentors in your life when they
Speaker 1: keep it one hunted. They don't just let you do
Speaker 1: what you want to do because they want to stay
Speaker 1: cool with you and be buddy buddy. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the finest lines. And being father's son and
Speaker 1: mentor and even big brother man, it's like having those
Speaker 1: real conversations, telling that telling those real troops man makes
Speaker 1: which makes you look at yourself, uh in the mirror
Speaker 1: and really then you'll be able to accept and move on.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I wanted to get your
Speaker 1: your perspective on, like the n I L deals and
Speaker 1: and all this new sort of stuff that we're seeing
Speaker 1: not only in college, but now it's kind of cascading
Speaker 1: down to high school. Nike just announced they signed Brownie
Speaker 1: James and Juju Watkins and d J. Wagner a bunch
Speaker 1: of other people. How does the n I L as
Speaker 1: as a as a coach, and as a parent, because
Speaker 1: you have an interesting perspective on this. Okay, does the
Speaker 1: does the N I L situation excite you? Or does
Speaker 1: it give you anxiety? No? No, you know what I said,
Speaker 1: But that is I've been in the business too long,
Speaker 1: and so one of the things that I understand about
Speaker 1: the business of basketball, right we're talking about the business now,
Speaker 1: is that you have to adapt. We've been on places
Speaker 1: you play, you seeing guys look at the contract on
Speaker 1: that team and you're like, I'm three times better than him.
Speaker 1: So what you're gonna do? Quit? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You sign yours now? You now you can not have
Speaker 1: a better understanding of what you need to do and
Speaker 1: who you need to talk to. Why of this player?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, here, you got the big screens in your apartment,
Speaker 1: write that into the continent. Okay, sleep. So you have
Speaker 1: to be able to adapt. You can't like so for me,
Speaker 1: But my whole thing on the N I L is
Speaker 1: it's beneficial, right, but you have to understand where you are.
Speaker 1: So so for a lot of guys, you know, they
Speaker 1: haven't reached that thing because all these little smaller deals,
Speaker 1: I think they're cool. If if their deals that you like, right,
Speaker 1: But when you talk about Ronnie, like, yeah, he's Lebron
Speaker 1: James Son and he's and he's a he's dunking on
Speaker 1: people on on your thing. He's going viral and then
Speaker 1: you can hate if you want. It's not about being
Speaker 1: the best player. It's about it's about the phenomenon. It's
Speaker 1: a different thing. It's name, image and likeness. The same
Speaker 1: way that in football, everybody kept complaining because Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: getting all those commercials. Right, He's not the best quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's not a Pro Bowl quarterback. He dominates your TV screen.
Speaker 1: I mean, and we know why he's he He came
Speaker 1: out he was a number one pick at quarterback, so
Speaker 1: that that meant that he that lined him up for deals.
Speaker 1: That's just how it goes. I mean, you know those
Speaker 1: guys will get deals. But as a as a parent,
Speaker 1: the parents, I'll tell them, your folkus got to be
Speaker 1: the basketball. The deals you get what you get out
Speaker 1: this game, you know because of the basketball. So you
Speaker 1: so a lot of times you have to just keep
Speaker 1: evaluating the basketball. Basketball. Basketball. Now, once you get to
Speaker 1: that status where you have the status and you know
Speaker 1: it and you know when you got it. You know,
Speaker 1: when you got you know, you're gonna ask with some
Speaker 1: extra cheese on the on the you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You don't know that, and then you don't know life
Speaker 1: like be quiet, you know what I mean, Let me
Speaker 1: deal with what I got. I'm hanging in there or no,
Speaker 1: I'm that guy. I need extra on everything. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm killing You know. When you reached that plateau, that's
Speaker 1: the time to start understanding. And you have to know
Speaker 1: that because you have to know your value. So it's
Speaker 1: really hard for parents because parents are That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying there now there now don't know where to get
Speaker 1: their true expertise. The social media has created a form.
Speaker 1: Like you said, when did it change? I think it
Speaker 1: changed because I started. It was one way. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a social media heavy thing. When I started, it wasn't
Speaker 1: social media was out, but the whole notion of entertaining
Speaker 1: all this basketball stuff on social media was not the
Speaker 1: pro game was. Then everything you started coming down. We
Speaker 1: started doing middle school rankings, third grade rankings, we started
Speaker 1: doing all that kind of stuff. It started being more
Speaker 1: energy towards these things. I think in the last seven
Speaker 1: or eight years you know, it's really changed it to
Speaker 1: to that. So now the parents they're gonna suffer and
Speaker 1: they're gonna deal with that anxiety because they're not gonna
Speaker 1: understand who to trust in this in this mark, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna have coaches. Just like what I said earlier,
Speaker 1: I said, look, I want to go to Venice. The
Speaker 1: thing is my mom, my mom would have if I
Speaker 1: didn't have my dad. My mom would have roll with me.
Speaker 1: She loved me, my baby. So I'm telling her suddenly such,
Speaker 1: I'm bearing to him now now she's moved me around.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the n I like, so I can
Speaker 1: just sympathize with people. So as a parent, you really
Speaker 1: have to get people who have a history. I don't
Speaker 1: understand people go and people can. They can doctor stuff
Speaker 1: up on social media too to make it look like something.
Speaker 1: I look at people stuff on social me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that would have got me if I didn't know, If
Speaker 1: if I didn't know you, yeah, I would buy you
Speaker 1: know what I mean because it's you know, it's what
Speaker 1: happened since the beginning of time. Salesman, it's what they
Speaker 1: if they call them back in the day. But people's
Speaker 1: ability to market themselves and sell folks. A dream is
Speaker 1: something I like to put it, like, typically the best
Speaker 1: at what they do are people that are really gonna
Speaker 1: ask some value to you. They don't They aren't the
Speaker 1: best at marketing themselves. They kind of just go through
Speaker 1: life having these skills understanding what their ability is. But
Speaker 1: they might not be necessarily the greatest at promoting. But
Speaker 1: sometimes you get the promotional aspect where everything all that
Speaker 1: glitters ain't going it looks great, Oh bills and whistles,
Speaker 1: shiny man, that was dope. Then you go and get
Speaker 1: it and it's kind of like, you know, March, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you though, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's gonna asset, but I'm just go ahead and
Speaker 1: put it out there, like, uh, Atope is one of
Speaker 1: the guys like I've seen the Ryan Silver and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I've seen all that. Now Atope is the
Speaker 1: guy that I saw that. I I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna step out the weapon like me because now I
Speaker 1: can do the basketball because you know, he got you know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys they're doing all this other
Speaker 1: stuff like this, but we're looking like he has a
Speaker 1: he has a niche of understanding enough about the basketball,
Speaker 1: enough about the basketball, and about relationships and the marketing
Speaker 1: and promotion side. That actually very unique for us on
Speaker 1: the West coast, staying us on the West coast, if
Speaker 1: you look at what he's done with that brand, and
Speaker 1: I saw it with my son having a year on
Speaker 1: in the program, so you know, by me running a
Speaker 1: program at that level, being a competitor of his, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they're saying like, if I want
Speaker 1: this done right, let me go over here and then
Speaker 1: let me do that that way for you know, a
Speaker 1: tope h a I one of the most impressive dudes
Speaker 1: as far as in that space, still doing it today. Um.
Speaker 1: Balance the balance of what you mentioned, the relationships, the
Speaker 1: ability to promote market things, and then actually having the substance.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He put all, you know, brings
Speaker 1: everything together, man, And I saw that. I saw that
Speaker 1: in them, and and that's a rare. We don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of guys like that. They think they they're
Speaker 1: trying to put it on like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, But they don't really have those relationships. Because
Speaker 1: even when you look at the guy rest in peace,
Speaker 1: man in the Hill, and that video that you see
Speaker 1: circulating when he's talking to at That's real, man, that's real. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody else they did this for this guy. They did
Speaker 1: that for that guy. Where's the video? Get me here
Speaker 1: from him? We hear from you, let's hear from them.
Speaker 1: See how they see how they feel about the person. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and that and that, and this
Speaker 1: is after I already been there. But that's just what
Speaker 1: I mean by that, Like he had those relationships are real,
Speaker 1: and then he the business he's doing is real, and
Speaker 1: so that's a good He's probably what I've seen on
Speaker 1: the West, you know. So that's what made me say, Okay.
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Speaker 1: Search f s R to listen live. And now, haven't
Speaker 1: been through this process j A that J two is
Speaker 1: going through now as far as a you and the
Speaker 1: college recruiting process is about to start to ramp up
Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you feel or when you're
Speaker 1: looking at a program, when you're thinking about the future
Speaker 1: for your son, what are some of the most important
Speaker 1: factors in a basketball program and institution, a college institution
Speaker 1: that you would look for your son to experience. WHOA
Speaker 1: I want somebody that needs him, you know, whatever situation
Speaker 1: that needs him. You know, my job is he'll be prepared.
Speaker 1: You know, I know enough about him to understand if
Speaker 1: he's fourteen now and he won't be fifteen until next year,
Speaker 1: and he's ready to go, and he's not afraid, and
Speaker 1: and and the kid can face the competition now when
Speaker 1: he's when he's seventeen, he's coming into college. He'll be
Speaker 1: ready then. So who needs him? You know, That's the
Speaker 1: first thing I think. People we think about what we want,
Speaker 1: but we gotta think about this is a system of value.
Speaker 1: You do better off where you need it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the first thing that has to
Speaker 1: come to mind. And then I'm gonna look for for
Speaker 1: the basketball, I'm just gonna look for a style because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna have the One thing about
Speaker 1: him is that you could ask him to do whatever,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna You're not gonna play a style
Speaker 1: that doesn't benefit point guards. Right. You might have, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not He may like them. You may you may
Speaker 1: want him to just run that flex, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and get that thing on. But you have to.
Speaker 1: I think I think U c l A like when
Speaker 1: you think about LaVar when he were Alonzo. I think
Speaker 1: that was the perfect situation. He played a game that
Speaker 1: suited his game and he was needed right because his game.
Speaker 1: He had the guys with him too, the shooters, he
Speaker 1: had rim runners, he had screening rollers, and he was
Speaker 1: able to create pace and create a threat from You
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was gonna do every possession, so
Speaker 1: you had to get your defense set. If you didn't,
Speaker 1: he punish you. So you know, from the basketball standpoint,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying my son is line. I'm not, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying I just like how that situation it worked out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he looked for that, but it
Speaker 1: worked out perfectly in arms up. It was a style
Speaker 1: that that suited lines of being beneficial to the school
Speaker 1: and the players, and the thing being beneficial to promoting him.
Speaker 1: So I like a situation where we're needing and can
Speaker 1: play and then you know, you just you just want
Speaker 1: to have the support on the staff. I think it's
Speaker 1: important to have a support on the staff. I'm still
Speaker 1: a young man. You want to have somebody that is,
Speaker 1: what is their track record of making sure that that
Speaker 1: the kid is that they're checking on them. Some kids
Speaker 1: that is and don't check on you. Some schools they
Speaker 1: do a great job, you know, like when you had
Speaker 1: Tony Bland and Jason Hard at usc M took off.
Speaker 1: Now we know, I'm not trying to, you know, put
Speaker 1: down Andy, he's a teacher. He's no. No j Hart, no,
Speaker 1: Tony Bland. Cut the hope, he's not still here properly
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But having Jason, to me, Tony Bland
Speaker 1: allowed them to compete with U C l A in
Speaker 1: this market. When you ce l A already the powerhouse
Speaker 1: to this to that, but when you got Jason Hard
Speaker 1: and Tony Bland, what you had is people that can
Speaker 1: go into your living room, look you in the eye,
Speaker 1: and then you believe what they were saying. Super unique
Speaker 1: to have two guys l A guys cut from the
Speaker 1: cloth that they are on one staff recruiting kids in
Speaker 1: these homes for parents in that generation of my generation
Speaker 1: and y'all generation of the in the generation before us.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost it was almost a perfect storm. Man.
Speaker 1: That's it's hard to say no. When you got j
Speaker 1: Hart just is man, there's a familiarity there and you know,
Speaker 1: shout out Tony Bland, Jay Hard, Jay Hard. Now with
Speaker 1: the G League, I nite Tony Bland St. Bernard's you know,
Speaker 1: heck of a program over there. But to your point,
Speaker 1: j Um, that stuff is important man nowadays. So that
Speaker 1: that relationship with a coach, somebody on that staff that's
Speaker 1: gonna actually give two ships about your well being on
Speaker 1: a day to day basis not like that, you know
Speaker 1: that other type of stuff. Yeah, they just want you
Speaker 1: to hope and if you're not good, come on, man,
Speaker 1: give me somebody else. Man, I can't win with this.
Speaker 1: And and then guys are truth tellers. Yeah that's what
Speaker 1: you want. You wants my tey. That's not cutting it.
Speaker 1: And it's not about me having a relationship calling in, hey,
Speaker 1: how's he doing. No, it's not that. It's he's with you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's in your house now.
Speaker 1: When he was at my house, Now he's in your house,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's not for me
Speaker 1: to be checking up. I need to be let him go.
Speaker 1: I need to be coming up watching the game and
Speaker 1: you know, bringing food whatever the you know, a parent
Speaker 1: that situation needs to do and I'm apparent fully you
Speaker 1: know absolutely absolutely what as far as your your emphasis
Speaker 1: moving forward with Jake two? Um, I know it's a
Speaker 1: it's it's a day to day, daily grind and probably
Speaker 1: have it all planned out, but like, how do you
Speaker 1: keep him grounded? He's getting a lot of accolades, he's
Speaker 1: getting a lot of attention, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: talking about him, He's getting put in situations where typical
Speaker 1: fourteen year old basketball player on this level doesn't get
Speaker 1: put in. How do you keep him working, grounded and
Speaker 1: his head on straight if you will? Well, because we
Speaker 1: haven't accomplished anything yet. You know, you have to always
Speaker 1: look ahead, and I think that you always get better
Speaker 1: and you always stay focused until you stop. So I
Speaker 1: always preached that to him, you know, is that enjoy
Speaker 1: the journey, have fun, have fun with the game. You know,
Speaker 1: but since he was young, you know, the we're putting
Speaker 1: into him is the love the work and the training,
Speaker 1: because that's what if you don't love that and you
Speaker 1: don't have a passion for that, the process, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to have a passion for this and you have
Speaker 1: to keep growing and I think every step of the
Speaker 1: way you get results. You get your results, and then
Speaker 1: you have your things. Okay, I need to go back
Speaker 1: and address this. And I think his desire, he has
Speaker 1: a desire as a basketball player to master this game.
Speaker 1: You know, I see that in him. I see that
Speaker 1: in him. You know, he has a strong desire to
Speaker 1: like really his passing, Like he just wants to master
Speaker 1: if he's not doing something, he gets to a game
Speaker 1: and something it's not going the way he likes it.
Speaker 1: He wants to understand. Okay, the's horns, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this? You know what I'm saying. So I think
Speaker 1: I think you're you're you're you have to you have
Speaker 1: to try to get a a desire to learn. You know,
Speaker 1: if you can't get a desire to learn, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna think you made it? Are you gonna?
Speaker 1: But no matter how good you get, there's always a
Speaker 1: desire to learn because competition is constantly coming around the corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it takes a level of self checking, self accountability
Speaker 1: and where you are too as a player, Like you
Speaker 1: can't think you just the man or you know it
Speaker 1: all you got all the game, you gotta be willing
Speaker 1: to add study and implement pieces, uh, just because you
Speaker 1: know that you're not and you will never be a
Speaker 1: finished product. But no, man, you you keep with this
Speaker 1: big I love the big picture approach that you have
Speaker 1: to coaching and to parenting as well, focusing less on
Speaker 1: you know, getting in the weeds of things and and
Speaker 1: focusing on stuff like the process. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: falling in love with the process. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: hell of a a nugget to to sort of embrace
Speaker 1: as as other young coaches are out here program building
Speaker 1: and try to develop people. I think the way you
Speaker 1: viewed things, and I've always noticed it working with you
Speaker 1: with the Truth and being up at Lynnwood early on
Speaker 1: when you when you first got the gig, I always
Speaker 1: noticed how you would think about things, and it will
Speaker 1: always strike me as something like, man, that's that's a
Speaker 1: unique way of looking at it. But then as I've
Speaker 1: gotten older, it's you were you were pretty advanced. J
Speaker 1: So keep doing what Keep doing what you're doing, man,
Speaker 1: you know serious for real though, Keep doing what you
Speaker 1: yeah for sure for sure, and keep doing what you're doing. Um,
Speaker 1: I know you gotta run, man. I appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: the time today too, brother, I know you got a
Speaker 1: busy schedule, man, and it's always nice to chop it up, bro.
Speaker 1: And you keep changed, keep changing lives, keep affecting people's
Speaker 1: lives for the better man, and best of luck with
Speaker 1: lynn Wood man, and we all go be watching J
Speaker 1: two's uh progression moving great man. When I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you too, I love having you, know, I want to
Speaker 1: love having you around the game. You know, Uh, that's
Speaker 1: what we need. We need guys like you around the
Speaker 1: game because just even you there, it's like your statue,
Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, it's really at the high school level,
Speaker 1: at this level right here, what you've accomplished in your
Speaker 1: in your view. You know, you're like, this is a
Speaker 1: big g that comes back. You're able to. But you're
Speaker 1: able to because people don't understand the eyes and then
Speaker 1: his eyes right, there's different sets of lenses, right, like
Speaker 1: all these glasses. But the Gucci once cost more than
Speaker 1: for a reason. I mean, so we need we need those.
Speaker 1: We need. It's good man, to have guys like you
Speaker 1: around and being able to get perspective. I think it
Speaker 1: just helps the game. It helps the game. And you know,
Speaker 1: everybody gets a chance to hear what you say. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that's what that's that's what's
Speaker 1: kind of like holding us up. It's not enough for guys.
Speaker 1: Just this is what we feel, this is it, this
Speaker 1: is the guy, this is the thing, this is what
Speaker 1: I saw. You know what I mean, Because we're getting
Speaker 1: everything with everybody else, but it's like, no, we need
Speaker 1: to hear from We need to hear from the guy
Speaker 1: that was winning championship, dominating on these floors. What does
Speaker 1: he have to say? You want to be a great actor,
Speaker 1: you start hearing Denzel got something to say and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Or you can listen to the people with
Speaker 1: the Ecademy Awards, to the voters and this, and but
Speaker 1: when Denzel, you know what I'm saying, cause that's who
Speaker 1: lists to right now. We gotta listen to the and
Speaker 1: that's part of the business. I'm not but the real
Speaker 1: guys want to hear from Denzel and Samuel. We want
Speaker 1: to hear those stories, you know, you know, we from
Speaker 1: the horse's man. We want to hear from the horse's mouth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those perspectives from those guys. What you know what I
Speaker 1: mean about? You know what I mean so so it's
Speaker 1: good to see you around the game though. Man, whenever
Speaker 1: every time you get when you free man and see
Speaker 1: you run the game, it's just a blessing for each other. Man. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I love being around it. Man. It always reinvigorates me. Man,
Speaker 1: and I always feel like my happiest ever when I
Speaker 1: when I attended them and the gym. So, mane you
Speaker 1: be seeing me more, brother, I'm gonna come over the
Speaker 1: little one, Bro, I'm gonna come, I'm gonna fall through.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out, man, and we're gonna be
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'll definitely be at the real one when
Speaker 1: the Classic against Long Beach Polly. Uh yeah, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be at that batch up to watch you. I
Speaker 1: love it for the season, man, it's great. You know
Speaker 1: you get a chance to play against you know, a
Speaker 1: team of Polly while they're young and their guys experienced.
Speaker 1: They went all way to the I watched Pollies run
Speaker 1: they lost the St. Bernards last year in the UH
Speaker 1: state playoffs. Yeah you know what I mean, So that
Speaker 1: I watched that. That was you know, those are good.
Speaker 1: That's a good opportunity for us to grow right before
Speaker 1: leave so for sure, yeah, for sure. Well knt wait
Speaker 1: j Man. I appreciate you, brother, thank you for coming
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