WEBVTT - KJ Live - Jason Crowe Sr. 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:10.320 This is kJ Live with Chris john Sallie and Chris 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.680 is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:22.799 entertainment industry. Now here's Chris Johnson. I'm back kJ Live 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.480 in the building. I hope y'all are good out there. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:31.000 Another fire episode on the way. Today's guest on the show. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:37.919 He's a former professional basketball player, the guy that has 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.240 made a huge difference on the southern California basketball scene 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.840 for the last twenty years through mentoring working folks out, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:51.000 developing players, and influencing kids in the right way. He's 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:56.840 now the head boys varsity basketball coach at Lynnwood High School. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.560 Please welcome Jason Crow Senior to the show. What ut 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:03.960 j Crow? Are you feeling? Are you feeling thanks for 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:08.039 having Jack? You know, feeling good? Man. I had a 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.399 chance to come out on Sunday to the League presented 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.080 by Compton Magic out at Westminster High School. Man got 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.000 a chance to check out your crew, the latest iteration 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.360 of Lynnwood High School. Jason Crow Jr. In the building, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:29.520 Chase Holly and others. Uh, the team is extremely impressive. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:34.480 You're extremely young. Let's talk a little bit about this season, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.760 the preparation that has gone into it and what you're 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:43.520 looking forward to out of this group in twenty two. Yeah, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.880 you know with this group you said, Um, we're relying 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.440 heavily on five freshmen. I'm really close to starting all 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:57.120 five of them. Yeah, we they played. You know, it's 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.560 because we started it with the men. Took with these 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:05.480 guys and the training and I got enamored by the 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.840 unity of these guys of how they work. It wasn't 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:12.079 it's not their talents, it's their desire to get out 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.680 there and do whatever you ask them to do. And 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:20.440 me coaching this my coaching experience having a group that 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.680 like when you say, look, give me twenty miles, they 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.960 take off. I'm like, hold, I'm just playing, like you 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.600 know what I mean, Like, they don't the trust the trust, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.600 you know, And that's what I've learned and coaching that 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.320 from them. My experience with them has shown me that 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.240 the trust is the most important ingredient because they do 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.320 trust me. And so I tried to be prepared. I 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.400 tried to give them as much as I can. I 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.240 try to uh do that. But as far as our 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.920 goals for this year, uh, you know, we want to 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.240 come out there and want our leave. We we're gonna 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.320 be in five double A, so you know, like we 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.200 we we gotta go try to win it. I mean 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.680 anything less would I believe would be disappointing. I mean 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.240 this this year, we they changed our league model, so 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:16.040 now we have an upper and lower league. So, uh, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:20.320 the pandemic, we should we shut down. So but what 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.560 happened was we was d one, so we shut down. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.600 But what happened was three teams wanted up their playoffs 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.760 standing and they gave us forfeits, knowing that we called 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.400 off the season. But they registered forfeits. Okay, so I'm 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.880 looking like, okay, they want to pull this stunt. But 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.200 what it did, so it dropped us all the way 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.040 back in divisions because of that thing. Because last year 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.160 I knew come out of pandemic, said I got these 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.560 five freshmen, I'm gonna throw them in. I don't care. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.080 So I didn't do any type of like wherever the 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.440 school had come on the pandemic. You know, we were 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.640 like we were guys were like our practice last year 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.440 was like so basic and just trying to build confidence 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.880 and enjoy the game. It was. Winning wasn't discussed, you 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.320 know what I mean? It was all about giving your best. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.680 So we end up being in this position because of that. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.640 So now the so now our league is Fireball when 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:19.440 the lower division with Fireball guard Warren, Um, Bell Flower 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.800 and Norwalk. Okay, yeah, we need to win that. Like 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.840 we're not trying to be all like this is we're 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:32.840 gonna do our best. No, we need to win that. Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.719 When you talked about trust, and it sounds like like 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.279 you know, when you're building a team, when you're building 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.960 a squad, you put a lot of thought, you put 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.000 a lot of take everything into consideration, you look out, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.640 you know, you're you're you're planning ahead for the future. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.719 But when you talk about trust in the hearing and now, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.440 how do you build that with a unit with so 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.760 much youth and not a lot of senior leadership? You know, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.200 think it comes from building their relationships. Um, with all 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.120 those kids, I have a personal relationship, you know, and 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.159 it's a different relationship. So I coach every kid. I 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.440 see people say some people have philosophy, I coach all 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.359 the kids the same. I don't think that's possible. I 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.160 coach everybody different. I coach everybody to what I believe 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.240 is their goals that they said for themselves and the 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.680 standard that I believe they can meet like I can't 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.640 because I ask different things of different players, So how 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.840 can I treat you the same when I'm asking different 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.640 things of you? So I think just building those relationships 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.800 and having and where you're showing them that you're invested 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.960 in them as well, because I care about down the 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.000 road for you, So I'm trying to prepare you for that, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.480 and I'm with you, but I'm not trying to tell you. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.719 I'm trying to get you to understand this is your 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.840 career and I'm just here to help you as far 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.160 as your career and your relation and your relationship and 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.680 be and be a piece for you to rely on. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.080 You know. So now when it comes to us on 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.880 this basketball team and what we're trying to complish together 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.640 and how we prepare you know, we're gonna do it 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.480 my way while you're in the space working in the 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.960 space for this time, We're gonna do everything my way. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:21.679 How how much uh this kind of a two sided question, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:28.839 How fun satisfying has it been coaching J two Jason 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.120 Crow Jr. Watching him come up? And then how much 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.640 of a challenge has it been to kind of told 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.880 the line between father and son. We've seen a lot 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.919 of father and son coach player relationships in the past, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.160 some workouts, some don't. I wanted to get your opinion 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:51.839 on on that aspect well as far as uh, you know, 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.840 you got to make adjustments along the way, just like 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.360 a father would. So a lot of people I've heard say, well, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:01.599 you gotta separate. Well, no, I'm not separate. That doesn't 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.720 mean we come out there with daddy this. We're not 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.360 that age anymore, like you know what I mean. We're 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.680 not We're not teeing it daddy. We're not. We're not 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.360 that age anymore, you know what I mean. So I'm 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.480 not separating that i'm as father or even when he's 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.560 in practice, because I'm a coach as well. So now 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.000 I'm coaching and my demands of him are gonna be 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.520 whatever they are that I expected. I'm not going to 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.760 lower him and I'm not gonna you know, but what 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.160 I learned that as a you have to grow just 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.240 like a parent. You have to grow as a coach 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.400 and how you deal with each player. This is a 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.000 unique situation. So I have to grow that and its 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.480 something It's on me. If I'm the leader, it's on 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.320 me to let him know. You know, look, you're wrong here, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.480 but I understand you know, when I'm wrong, I'm gonna 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.960 announced it. I shouldn't, you know, because you have certain 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.640 things something you're like, look my fault. I mean, you 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.120 gotta come back home like my fault. You know what 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.600 I mean. But as far as the thing with the 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.480 game and coach them as rewarded because he wanted this, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:04.280 you know, and he wanted to learn from me because 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.680 I was already coaching it. Some people that see us 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.840 now they think that I am so younger this that 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.320 I started coaching with him. Oh, he's a product of 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:18.000 the gym. He's a product of seeing players, of seeing 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:19.920 the shackle for the saying behind me, how kids is 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.120 seeing these guys coming in Bourbon day to where I'm like, look, man, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.280 you can shoot on the side courts, and he had 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.120 the side courts. Then you look up and people are 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.640 telling you, like, man, did you see him make fifty 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.800 with verse laps in the road. I'm like looking over 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.160 there and he's like five years old. He got everything English, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.280 both fans, I didn't you know what I mean? That's 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.640 him wanting to be a part of it. So that's 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.400 how we started, and that's how we're going to keep it. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.960 Like our ladship with the game is our love, you know, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.920 Like if I saw him, like I come downstairs, he's 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.160 watching Dr Jack, you know, so remind me of me 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.600 as a kid is searching, you know, and then he's 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.320 a And it's still like we still have our one 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.640 on one battles in the backyard. So it's still that. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:10.040 It's still that relationship, y'all. Still can you can he 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.839 get you? Can he beat you consistently? Or are you 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.559 not allowing that? Are you hacking? Are you fouling? Or 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.640 you are you putting on the extra defense? And me 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.280 talk to me, Jake, Well, I'm gonna tell you this 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.920 right now. I mean the three dribbles is keeping us, 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:29.040 keeping me, but I let them get uh the limited 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.040 dribbles is all these these jerks and closing and start 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.800 stop um, you know. But the backyard I got walls. Yeah, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.360 don't play the walls in the backyard. So right now, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:42.680 for right now, I've been letting them were in the 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.439 backyard with it. I'm still I'm still king in the backyard. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.640 But in that in that gym with all that space 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.120 and all that stuff to cover because he's a tough cover, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.520 you know, and then you know, I'm not I'm not 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.000 active like the player against him. You gotta be actually 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.960 working in the game because if you miss, you know, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.600 he can go off. So you gotta you know, but 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.120 it's good like that. We still have that relationship. Like 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.520 a morning I played one on one. It was fun, yeah, 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.320 and it shows. I mean the thing that I think 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.600 that stood out to me because I was my first 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.000 time had seen him at this age and you know, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.439 after he's you know, been starting on the seventeen and 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.679 Compton Magic and all that, you know, all that all 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.000 that stuff. The thing that jumped out, man, was the strength. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.280 So there are a couple of plays on Sunday. You know, 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.480 he's driving to the length, driving driving to the rack. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.560 Dudes were really trying to lock up. They were trying 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.439 to strap up there down in the stands, chesting up, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.000 and he just yah, yeah yeah, and just work dudes 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.920 all the way in. You know, ref call it. We're 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.320 barely missing the and one that's what stood out that 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.120 looked like he'd been playing against a dog on serious wiry, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:51.560 grown man strength. Having defender all his life. It reminded 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.720 me of me playing against my dad growing up. Right, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.640 we're in the front yard man, and the block on 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.240 the block in the post. So when I got when 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.679 I got out there, and when I got it out 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:05.280 into the real world against dudes my age regularly. So 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.840 you already said, you already know. I see it. Not afraid, 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.000 not at all. Once you go through, once you go through. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.959 And then the thing about the pops, we don't want 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.680 to relinquish the crown. It's not that thing because we're serious. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.880 So we're not gonna give you the That's a boy, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.559 I get out the way. I don't. You can't beat me. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.600 I don't you know what I mean? Like, if you 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.360 beat me, you have to earn I'm not. You're not 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.080 trying to like all that's fool your kid and thinking 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.800 he can beat you and all this. No, you want 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.120 him to go to hard route. You want him to 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.439 go to hard route so he's fully prepared for whatever 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.560 he sees. Jake, when you're coming up man, growing up 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:49.880 out here in l A. The competitive nature of your character, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.560 the person you are. Where did you develop that? Where 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.040 did you get that competitiveness to where you compete at 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:02.120 just about everything there is. I think, uh, just you know, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.280 I was somebody asked me that, and I think it 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.640 was just I wanted to impress my dad, you know, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.440 I wanted to get favor from people anywhere I go. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.280 I always wanted to. I guess it would being an 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.400 only child, I always had to go somewhere else, right, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.240 So when you always have to go somewhere else, then 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.280 you're outside looking in, right, because they have their little favorite. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.760 You're coming in. They don't pick you, so you always 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.400 have to prove no, you're gonna pick me, you know 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.439 what I'm saying. And you have to earn that. That's 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:34.880 where I come. I come from playing everywhere, going all 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:39.240 outside of my area, finding game and and doing that 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.920 and and you know, and I think that's the element 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.520 right now, that that I learned that I have to 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.840 create for these guys, Right, I think when you see 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.840 them play, you see that in them, right, Because you 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.600 see guys that that some of the guys, if you 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.839 see them what they're working with, they've been psyched into that. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:04.440 You're gonna be strong and prepared to compete. You know. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.120 The skills will figure that out. But first things first 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.920 you know, we're gonna be out here to compete. We're 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.400 gonna find the way, we're gonna run faster to the ball. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.319 We're gonna out think we're gonna compete. And that's a 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.400 skill right now, that's hard to teach because of the 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.480 fact that you know, we're we're, we're, we're circling all that. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.160 This changed. I don't wanted to be a hater, but 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.280 times have changed, right Like, when you think about it, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.760 there's no playground games Like I grew up catching the 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.400 bus to Audubon to stay out there. They're out there. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.360 I'm going to fochet, you know, I'm going to different 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.679 places in l a middle school's outdoor by myself to 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.520 hope that doesn't exist. And when you go to those places, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.240 you have to win. If you don't win, you're not 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.079 allowed to play. You can shoot around on the other 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.080 side baskets. You want to get into the game, you 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.080 have to win, and then when you lose, you have 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.560 to wait. And if you're young, you're not. You do 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.360 not have next, No, you don't. You can't with nobody's asks. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:09.160 You don't have next, can't play right they got you 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.760 can't play on his team and know everybody needs to win. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.080 So you think about how it's going now, and like 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.240 I said, it's changed. I'm not trying to be but 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:23.240 the kids are learning skill before the competitiveness, so that 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.960 they put kind of like, you know, they learned that 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.560 skill first, but then you have the game is five 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.000 on five to win, so it's it's kind of like 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.640 it's not fair to them. They're missing that step. Fox 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.760 Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.040 Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.080 com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.040 s R to listen live. Who is it on one? 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.960 Whose responsibility is that ja to teach these kids competitiveness, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.840 to instill some heart into these dudes. And from what 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.440 I see, and we're not being haters, it's different. There's changed, 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.680 But there's also a solution. There has to be a solution, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.480 Like these kids just they can't just grow up without 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.760 heart or being competitive, Like what about it? Because I 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.560 see them on their video games, so I see how 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:16.000 competitive they are. Uh my son in particular, how competitive 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.080 he was with video games, So why can't it carry 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.000 over you know in the sport? I guess you know 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.200 what it is is each one teach one because I 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.960 was thinking, like it's hard to do a mass covering. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.360 But one of the problems we have is that the guys, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.040 the guys that that I really hurts my heart is 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.320 that guys that have played the game and then they 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.920 have kids, then they do the bs, they do all 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.760 the like not being a leader to your son, not 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.400 keeping it real. Not see we're not we're not We're 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:54.920 we're we're not being reality with love. See I believe 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.800 in that it's reality with love. I gotta be able 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.520 to coach you, right, Yeah, So that's truth teller, truth teller, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.400 truth teller, each one teach one in the area. We 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.000 have to be able to do that. We have to 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.520 be able to be responsible for our areas. Everybody has 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.960 to govern their part. And I think that's what we're 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.640 not doing. Like you know, you have certain people, but 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.920 like I'm gonna do it. You can't play for me 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.720 without without this you You're gonna quit the conditioning, the 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.880 mental the toughness. I'm but I'm there to love you. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.880 I'm there to be there, you know. I Like I said, 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.680 I give I spend time development each relationship with the 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.560 kids that I have. I know all the kids. I 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.000 know their problems, I know their strengths and o their weaknesses. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.920 That takes investment. That's why I don't even look. And 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.720 I said, I don't want to blame everybody because I 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.640 know the requirements of what I'm trying to get accomplished 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.480 to help these guys. So everybody might not have the time, energy, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.080 or or the willingness, but we can start off by 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.480 being truth tellers and that to help. Right now, we're 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.840 making it seem like you don't have to do that, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.760 you know, you know we can bypass that. You know, 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:09.680 it's okay, Okay, I find it. I find it interesting 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:14.600 now in today's in today's era that, um, there's just 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.959 so many non truth tellers. It's almost like the truth 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:25.240 or someone's real opinion is now taking his hate or 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.679 you know, some type of agenda. I just want to 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:32.399 know where did when did our basketball culture become so 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.439 extremely sensitive? Because when I was coming up, Jay, you know, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.840 I was a big guy, so I was a little overweight, etcetera. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.679 There wasn't a basketball coach, There wasn't a person that 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.480 didn't tell me I needed to lose weight if I 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.600 wanted to be know, be good in this gay and 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.280 achieve my top partitution. But you tell you tell a 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.200 kid that nowadays, and you know, you may get canceled 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.080 or you may be accused of being a bully or something. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:59.720 We have two voice. Damn, that's what it is, right, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.719 because what you're about to say is that you tell 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.880 a kid that now, But look who's gonna Who's gonna 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.679 get an intervene in that situation? The parents, parents, So 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.000 the parents voice. Back in the day we played, the 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.919 parents had zero voice. Your father are all time great, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.480 should be in the Hall of Fame. He has a voice. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:24.280 Why because Hall of Fame Lebron James father has a voice. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:30.040 Why he's Lebron James. He's greater than the coach, you 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.159 know what I mean. So now everybody wants to be 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:37.000 like LaVar. Lavarre came out and did this thing, and look, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.240 you can't knock him, but it made everybody think, like, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.520 like you know what I'm saying, Like Lavoire was no 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.840 great player. Now he had some opportunity. But all these 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.320 voices of parents, they're prominent, they're on social media and 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.520 they have influence today. Right, you want to run your program, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:01.040 this one has the funding funding. I think that like 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.359 the life blood of video and say, now you compromise 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:09.359 one thing. You compromise one thing, you'll compromise another you don't. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.359 And that's what ended up happening to a lot of 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.200 the coaches. They don't have the voice. They don't want 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.680 to they don't have the voice, you know, because there 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.680 they're sometimes these jobs to value on them has gone up, 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.719 and the parents have a great voice now that they 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.639 didn't have before they came. And was fully supporting the 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:31.679 coaching situation. If your kid didn't play, you know, your 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.000 kid didn't play, then you went and talked to him. Maybe, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.480 but a lot of times it just was like, which 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:45.119 you good? Another I was like, man, I want to 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.560 go to Videss. He was like he was like, he 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:56.320 was like, of course you do. You're weak. Yeah, yeah, 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.800 that was my dad, you know what I mean? So like, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.240 of course you want to run pump? Well what I'm 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.520 looking for the Yeah, let's get you going. No, no, 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.640 you know what I'm saying. So and he was right, 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.600 he was right, he's what I'm saying. That was the 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.439 thing that he could have been. We're living in a 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.040 different era. He didn't have to probably use that terminology 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.640 or whatnot we can, but he was a hundred percent correct. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.159 And that's why me and my father blameship. It's so 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.840 tight to the thing because all that stuff I didn't 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.280 I thought of. Realizing that more and more that ye 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.680 me for everything. Yeah, you gotta appreciate your pops or 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.040 or your father figure mentors in your life when they 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.439 keep it one hunted. They don't just let you do 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.000 what you want to do because they want to stay 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.320 cool with you and be buddy buddy. I think that's 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:50.159 one of the finest lines. And being father's son and 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.320 mentor and even big brother man, it's like having those 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.080 real conversations, telling that telling those real troops man makes 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.360 which makes you look at yourself, uh in the mirror 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.280 and really then you'll be able to accept and move on. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.040 Let me ask you this, I wanted to get your 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.200 your perspective on, like the n I L deals and 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.320 and all this new sort of stuff that we're seeing 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.520 not only in college, but now it's kind of cascading 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.680 down to high school. Nike just announced they signed Brownie 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.520 James and Juju Watkins and d J. Wagner a bunch 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.040 of other people. How does the n I L as 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.960 as a as a coach, and as a parent, because 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.040 you have an interesting perspective on this. Okay, does the 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.760 does the N I L situation excite you? Or does 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:41.720 it give you anxiety? No? No, you know what I said, 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.360 But that is I've been in the business too long, 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.520 and so one of the things that I understand about 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.600 the business of basketball, right we're talking about the business now, 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.840 is that you have to adapt. We've been on places 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.679 you play, you seeing guys look at the contract on 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.480 that team and you're like, I'm three times better than him. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.400 So what you're gonna do? Quit? You know what I mean? 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.119 You sign yours now? You now you can not have 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.040 a better understanding of what you need to do and 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:11.000 who you need to talk to. Why of this player? 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.800 Oh okay, here, you got the big screens in your apartment, 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.000 write that into the continent. Okay, sleep. So you have 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.840 to be able to adapt. You can't like so for me, 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.040 But my whole thing on the N I L is 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:26.800 it's beneficial, right, but you have to understand where you are. 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:31.959 So so for a lot of guys, you know, they 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:36.040 haven't reached that thing because all these little smaller deals, 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:41.360 I think they're cool. If if their deals that you like, right, 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.159 But when you talk about Ronnie, like, yeah, he's Lebron 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:47.399 James Son and he's and he's a he's dunking on 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:51.159 people on on your thing. He's going viral and then 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:52.800