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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Sallie and Chris

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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Now here's Chris Johnson. I'm back kJ Live

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Speaker 1: in the building. I hope y'all are good out there.

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Speaker 1: Another fire episode on the way. Today's guest on the show.

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Speaker 1: He's a former professional basketball player, the guy that has

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Speaker 1: made a huge difference on the southern California basketball scene

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Speaker 1: for the last twenty years through mentoring working folks out,

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Speaker 1: developing players, and influencing kids in the right way. He's

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Speaker 1: now the head boys varsity basketball coach at Lynnwood High School.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Jason Crow Senior to the show. What ut

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Speaker 1: j Crow? Are you feeling? Are you feeling thanks for

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Speaker 1: having Jack? You know, feeling good? Man. I had a

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Speaker 1: chance to come out on Sunday to the League presented

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Speaker 1: by Compton Magic out at Westminster High School. Man got

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Speaker 1: a chance to check out your crew, the latest iteration

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Speaker 1: of Lynnwood High School. Jason Crow Jr. In the building,

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Speaker 1: Chase Holly and others. Uh, the team is extremely impressive.

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Speaker 1: You're extremely young. Let's talk a little bit about this season,

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Speaker 1: the preparation that has gone into it and what you're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to out of this group in twenty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know with this group you said, Um, we're relying

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Speaker 1: heavily on five freshmen. I'm really close to starting all

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Speaker 1: five of them. Yeah, we they played. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: because we started it with the men. Took with these

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Speaker 1: guys and the training and I got enamored by the

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Speaker 1: unity of these guys of how they work. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: it's not their talents, it's their desire to get out

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Speaker 1: there and do whatever you ask them to do. And

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Speaker 1: me coaching this my coaching experience having a group that

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Speaker 1: like when you say, look, give me twenty miles, they

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Speaker 1: take off. I'm like, hold, I'm just playing, like you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, they don't the trust the trust,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I've learned and coaching that

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Speaker 1: from them. My experience with them has shown me that

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Speaker 1: the trust is the most important ingredient because they do

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Speaker 1: trust me. And so I tried to be prepared. I

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Speaker 1: tried to give them as much as I can. I

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Speaker 1: come out there and want our leave. We we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in five double A, so you know, like we

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Speaker 1: we we gotta go try to win it. I mean

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Speaker 1: anything less would I believe would be disappointing. I mean

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Speaker 1: this this year, we they changed our league model, so

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Speaker 1: now we have an upper and lower league. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, we should we shut down. So but what

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Speaker 1: happened was we was d one, so we shut down.

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Speaker 1: But what happened was three teams wanted up their playoffs

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Speaker 1: standing and they gave us forfeits, knowing that we called

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Speaker 1: off the season. But they registered forfeits. Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 1: looking like, okay, they want to pull this stunt. But

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Speaker 1: what it did, so it dropped us all the way

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Speaker 1: back in divisions because of that thing. Because last year

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Speaker 1: I knew come out of pandemic, said I got these

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Speaker 1: So I didn't do any type of like wherever the

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Speaker 1: school had come on the pandemic. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: like we were guys were like our practice last year

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Speaker 1: and enjoy the game. It was. Winning wasn't discussed, you

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Speaker 1: So we end up being in this position because of that.

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Speaker 1: So now the so now our league is Fireball when

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Speaker 1: we're not trying to be all like this is we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do our best. No, we need to win that. Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: When you talked about trust, and it sounds like like

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're building a team, when you're building

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Speaker 1: a lot of take everything into consideration, you look out,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you're planning ahead for the future.

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Speaker 1: But when you talk about trust in the hearing and now,

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Speaker 1: how do you build that with a unit with so

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Speaker 1: because I ask different things of different players, So how

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Speaker 1: and I'm with you, but I'm not trying to tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you to understand this is your

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Speaker 1: career and I'm just here to help you as far

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Speaker 1: You know. So now when it comes to us on

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Speaker 1: and how we prepare you know, we're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: my way while you're in the space working in the

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Speaker 1: space for this time, We're gonna do everything my way.

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Speaker 1: How how much uh this kind of a two sided question,

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Speaker 1: How fun satisfying has it been coaching J two Jason

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Speaker 1: Crow Jr. Watching him come up? And then how much

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Speaker 1: of a challenge has it been to kind of told

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Speaker 1: some workouts, some don't. I wanted to get your opinion

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Speaker 1: on on that aspect well as far as uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a father would. So a lot of people I've heard say, well,

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Speaker 1: mean we come out there with daddy this. We're not

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Speaker 1: not We're not teeing it daddy. We're not. We're not

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Speaker 1: me to let him know. You know, look, you're wrong here,

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Speaker 1: It's still that relationship, y'all. Still can you can he

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Speaker 1: not allowing that? Are you hacking? Are you fouling? Or

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Speaker 1: talk to me, Jake, Well, I'm gonna tell you this

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Speaker 1: But in that in that gym with all that space

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Speaker 1: Dudes were really trying to lock up. They were trying

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Speaker 1: grown man strength. Having defender all his life. It reminded

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Speaker 1: me of me playing against my dad growing up. Right,

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Speaker 1: we're in the front yard man, and the block on

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Speaker 1: And then the thing about the pops, we don't want

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna give you the That's a boy,

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Speaker 1: I get out the way. I don't. You can't beat me.

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Speaker 1: he can beat you and all this. No, you want

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Speaker 1: go to hard route so he's fully prepared for whatever

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Speaker 1: he sees. Jake, when you're coming up man, growing up

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Speaker 1: out here in l A. The competitive nature of your character,

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Speaker 1: the person you are. Where did you develop that? Where

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Speaker 1: deal with what I got. I'm hanging in there or no,

424
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm that guy. I need extra on everything. Right now,

425
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm killing You know. When you reached that plateau, that's

426
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: the time to start understanding. And you have to know

427
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: that because you have to know your value. So it's

428
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: really hard for parents because parents are That's what I'm

429
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: saying there now there now don't know where to get

430
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: their true expertise. The social media has created a form.

431
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: Like you said, when did it change? I think it

432
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: changed because I started. It was one way. It wasn't

433
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: a social media heavy thing. When I started, it wasn't

434
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: social media was out, but the whole notion of entertaining

435
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: all this basketball stuff on social media was not the

436
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: pro game was. Then everything you started coming down. We

437
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: started doing middle school rankings, third grade rankings, we started

438
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: doing all that kind of stuff. It started being more

439
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: energy towards these things. I think in the last seven

440
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: or eight years you know, it's really changed it to

441
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: to that. So now the parents they're gonna suffer and

442
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna deal with that anxiety because they're not gonna

443
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: understand who to trust in this in this mark, because

444
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have coaches. Just like what I said earlier,

445
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I said, look, I want to go to Venice. The

446
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: thing is my mom, my mom would have if I

447
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't have my dad. My mom would have roll with me.

448
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: She loved me, my baby. So I'm telling her suddenly such,

449
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm bearing to him now now she's moved me around.

450
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the n I like, so I can

451
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: just sympathize with people. So as a parent, you really

452
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: have to get people who have a history. I don't

453
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: understand people go and people can. They can doctor stuff

454
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: up on social media too to make it look like something.

455
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: I look at people stuff on social me. I'm like,

456
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: that would have got me if I didn't know, If

457
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: if I didn't know you, yeah, I would buy you

458
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean because it's you know, it's what

459
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: happened since the beginning of time. Salesman, it's what they

460
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: if they call them back in the day. But people's

461
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: ability to market themselves and sell folks. A dream is

462
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: something I like to put it, like, typically the best

463
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: at what they do are people that are really gonna

464
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: ask some value to you. They don't They aren't the

465
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: best at marketing themselves. They kind of just go through

466
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: life having these skills understanding what their ability is. But

467
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: they might not be necessarily the greatest at promoting. But

468
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: sometimes you get the promotional aspect where everything all that

469
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Speaker 1: glitters ain't going it looks great, Oh bills and whistles,

470
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: shiny man, that was dope. Then you go and get

471
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: it and it's kind of like, you know, March, I'm

472
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you though, and I don't know

473
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Speaker 1: if he's gonna asset, but I'm just go ahead and

474
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: put it out there, like, uh, Atope is one of

475
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: the guys like I've seen the Ryan Silver and all

476
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. I've seen all that. Now Atope is the

477
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: guy that I saw that. I I was like, Okay, I'm

478
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna step out the weapon like me because now I

479
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: can do the basketball because you know, he got you know,

480
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: because a lot of guys they're doing all this other

481
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: stuff like this, but we're looking like he has a

482
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: he has a niche of understanding enough about the basketball,

483
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: enough about the basketball, and about relationships and the marketing

484
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: and promotion side. That actually very unique for us on

485
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: the West coast, staying us on the West coast, if

486
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: you look at what he's done with that brand, and

487
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I saw it with my son having a year on

488
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: in the program, so you know, by me running a

489
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: program at that level, being a competitor of his, you

490
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they're saying like, if I want

491
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: this done right, let me go over here and then

492
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: let me do that that way for you know, a

493
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: tope h a I one of the most impressive dudes

494
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: as far as in that space, still doing it today. Um.

495
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Balance the balance of what you mentioned, the relationships, the

496
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: ability to promote market things, and then actually having the substance.

497
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He put all, you know, brings

498
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: everything together, man, And I saw that. I saw that

499
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: in them, and and that's a rare. We don't have

500
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys like that. They think they they're

501
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to put it on like that, you know what

502
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, But they don't really have those relationships. Because

503
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: even when you look at the guy rest in peace,

504
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: man in the Hill, and that video that you see

505
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: circulating when he's talking to at That's real, man, that's real. Now,

506
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: everybody else they did this for this guy. They did

507
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: that for that guy. Where's the video? Get me here

508
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: from him? We hear from you, let's hear from them.

509
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: See how they see how they feel about the person. Yeah. See,

510
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and that and that, and this

511
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: is after I already been there. But that's just what

512
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: I mean by that, Like he had those relationships are real,

513
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: and then he the business he's doing is real, and

514
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: so that's a good He's probably what I've seen on

515
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: the West, you know. So that's what made me say, Okay.

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Speaker 1: been through this process j A that J two is

521
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: going through now as far as a you and the

522
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: college recruiting process is about to start to ramp up

523
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you feel or when you're

524
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: looking at a program, when you're thinking about the future

525
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: for your son, what are some of the most important

526
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: factors in a basketball program and institution, a college institution

527
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: that you would look for your son to experience. WHOA

528
00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: I want somebody that needs him, you know, whatever situation

529
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: that needs him. You know, my job is he'll be prepared.

530
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: You know, I know enough about him to understand if

531
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: he's fourteen now and he won't be fifteen until next year,

532
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: and he's ready to go, and he's not afraid, and

533
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: and and the kid can face the competition now when

534
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: he's when he's seventeen, he's coming into college. He'll be

535
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: ready then. So who needs him? You know, That's the

536
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: first thing I think. People we think about what we want,

537
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: but we gotta think about this is a system of value.

538
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: You do better off where you need it, you know.

539
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: So I think that's the first thing that has to

540
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: come to mind. And then I'm gonna look for for

541
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: the basketball, I'm just gonna look for a style because

542
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna have the One thing about

543
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: him is that you could ask him to do whatever,

544
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna You're not gonna play a style

545
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't benefit point guards. Right. You might have, you know,

546
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: he's not He may like them. You may you may

547
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: want him to just run that flex, you know what

548
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and get that thing on. But you have to.

549
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I think I think U c l A like when

550
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: you think about LaVar when he were Alonzo. I think

551
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: that was the perfect situation. He played a game that

552
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: suited his game and he was needed right because his game.

553
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: He had the guys with him too, the shooters, he

554
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: had rim runners, he had screening rollers, and he was

555
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: able to create pace and create a threat from You

556
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was gonna do every possession, so

557
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: you had to get your defense set. If you didn't,

558
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: he punish you. So you know, from the basketball standpoint,

559
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying my son is line. I'm not, but

560
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying I just like how that situation it worked out.

561
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he looked for that, but it

562
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: worked out perfectly in arms up. It was a style

563
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: that that suited lines of being beneficial to the school

564
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: and the players, and the thing being beneficial to promoting him.

565
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: So I like a situation where we're needing and can

566
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: play and then you know, you just you just want

567
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: to have the support on the staff. I think it's

568
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: important to have a support on the staff. I'm still

569
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: a young man. You want to have somebody that is,

570
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: what is their track record of making sure that that

571
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: the kid is that they're checking on them. Some kids

572
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: that is and don't check on you. Some schools they

573
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: do a great job, you know, like when you had

574
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Tony Bland and Jason Hard at usc M took off.

575
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: Now we know, I'm not trying to, you know, put

576
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: down Andy, he's a teacher. He's no. No j Hart, no,

577
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Tony Bland. Cut the hope, he's not still here properly

578
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But having Jason, to me, Tony Bland

579
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: allowed them to compete with U C l A in

580
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: this market. When you ce l A already the powerhouse

581
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: to this to that, but when you got Jason Hard

582
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: and Tony Bland, what you had is people that can

583
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: go into your living room, look you in the eye,

584
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: and then you believe what they were saying. Super unique

585
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: to have two guys l A guys cut from the

586
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: cloth that they are on one staff recruiting kids in

587
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: these homes for parents in that generation of my generation

588
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: and y'all generation of the in the generation before us.

589
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost it was almost a perfect storm. Man.

590
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: That's it's hard to say no. When you got j

591
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Hart just is man, there's a familiarity there and you know,

592
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: shout out Tony Bland, Jay Hard, Jay Hard. Now with

593
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: the G League, I nite Tony Bland St. Bernard's you know,

594
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: heck of a program over there. But to your point,

595
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: j Um, that stuff is important man nowadays. So that

596
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: that relationship with a coach, somebody on that staff that's

597
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: gonna actually give two ships about your well being on

598
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: a day to day basis not like that, you know

599
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: that other type of stuff. Yeah, they just want you

600
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: to hope and if you're not good, come on, man,

601
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: give me somebody else. Man, I can't win with this.

602
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: And and then guys are truth tellers. Yeah that's what

603
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: you want. You wants my tey. That's not cutting it.

604
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: And it's not about me having a relationship calling in, hey,

605
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: how's he doing. No, it's not that. It's he's with you,

606
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's in your house now.

607
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: When he was at my house, Now he's in your house,

608
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's not for me

609
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: to be checking up. I need to be let him go.

610
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: I need to be coming up watching the game and

611
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, bringing food whatever the you know, a parent

612
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: that situation needs to do and I'm apparent fully you

613
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: know absolutely absolutely what as far as your your emphasis

614
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: moving forward with Jake two? Um, I know it's a

615
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a day to day, daily grind and probably

616
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: have it all planned out, but like, how do you

617
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: keep him grounded? He's getting a lot of accolades, he's

618
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: getting a lot of attention, a lot of people are

619
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: talking about him, He's getting put in situations where typical

620
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: fourteen year old basketball player on this level doesn't get

621
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: put in. How do you keep him working, grounded and

622
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: his head on straight if you will? Well, because we

623
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: haven't accomplished anything yet. You know, you have to always

624
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: look ahead, and I think that you always get better

625
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: and you always stay focused until you stop. So I

626
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: always preached that to him, you know, is that enjoy

627
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: the journey, have fun, have fun with the game. You know,

628
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: but since he was young, you know, the we're putting

629
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: into him is the love the work and the training,

630
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: because that's what if you don't love that and you

631
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: don't have a passion for that, the process, Yeah, you

632
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: have to have a passion for this and you have

633
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: to keep growing and I think every step of the

634
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: way you get results. You get your results, and then

635
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: you have your things. Okay, I need to go back

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Speaker 1: and address this. And I think his desire, he has

637
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Speaker 1: a desire as a basketball player to master this game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I see that in him. I see that

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Speaker 1: in him. You know, he has a strong desire to

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Speaker 1: like really his passing, Like he just wants to master

641
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: if he's not doing something, he gets to a game

642
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: and something it's not going the way he likes it.

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: He wants to understand. Okay, the's horns, what's going on

644
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Speaker 1: with this? You know what I'm saying. So I think

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Speaker 1: I think you're you're you're you have to you have

646
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Speaker 1: to try to get a a desire to learn. You know,

647
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: if you can't get a desire to learn, then you're

648
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna think you made it? Are you gonna?

649
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Speaker 1: But no matter how good you get, there's always a

650
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Speaker 1: desire to learn because competition is constantly coming around the corner. Yeah,

651
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: it's it takes a level of self checking, self accountability

652
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and where you are too as a player, Like you

653
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: can't think you just the man or you know it

654
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: all you got all the game, you gotta be willing

655
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: to add study and implement pieces, uh, just because you

656
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: know that you're not and you will never be a

657
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: finished product. But no, man, you you keep with this

658
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: big I love the big picture approach that you have

659
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: to coaching and to parenting as well, focusing less on

660
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, getting in the weeds of things and and

661
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: focusing on stuff like the process. You know what I mean,

662
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: falling in love with the process. I mean, that's a

663
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: hell of a a nugget to to sort of embrace

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Speaker 1: as as other young coaches are out here program building

665
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: and try to develop people. I think the way you

666
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: viewed things, and I've always noticed it working with you

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00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: with the Truth and being up at Lynnwood early on

668
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: when you when you first got the gig, I always

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00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: noticed how you would think about things, and it will

670
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: always strike me as something like, man, that's that's a

671
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: unique way of looking at it. But then as I've

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: gotten older, it's you were you were pretty advanced. J

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Speaker 1: So keep doing what Keep doing what you're doing, man,

674
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: you know serious for real though, Keep doing what you

675
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: yeah for sure for sure, and keep doing what you're doing. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know you gotta run, man. I appreciate you taking

677
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: the time today too, brother, I know you got a

678
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: busy schedule, man, and it's always nice to chop it up, bro.

679
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: And you keep changed, keep changing lives, keep affecting people's

680
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: lives for the better man, and best of luck with

681
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: lynn Wood man, and we all go be watching J

682
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: two's uh progression moving great man. When I'm gonna tell

683
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: you too, I love having you, know, I want to

684
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: love having you around the game. You know, Uh, that's

685
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: what we need. We need guys like you around the

686
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: game because just even you there, it's like your statue,

687
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, it's really at the high school level,

688
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: at this level right here, what you've accomplished in your

689
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: in your view. You know, you're like, this is a

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Speaker 1: big g that comes back. You're able to. But you're

691
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: able to because people don't understand the eyes and then

692
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: his eyes right, there's different sets of lenses, right, like

693
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: all these glasses. But the Gucci once cost more than

694
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: for a reason. I mean, so we need we need those.

695
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: We need. It's good man, to have guys like you

696
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: around and being able to get perspective. I think it

697
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: just helps the game. It helps the game. And you know,

698
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: everybody gets a chance to hear what you say. You

699
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that's what that's that's what's

700
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of like holding us up. It's not enough for guys.

701
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Just this is what we feel, this is it, this

702
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: is the guy, this is the thing, this is what

703
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: I saw. You know what I mean, Because we're getting

704
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: everything with everybody else, but it's like, no, we need

705
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: to hear from We need to hear from the guy

706
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: that was winning championship, dominating on these floors. What does

707
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: he have to say? You want to be a great actor,

708
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: you start hearing Denzel got something to say and stuff

709
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: like that. Or you can listen to the people with

710
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: the Ecademy Awards, to the voters and this, and but

711
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: when Denzel, you know what I'm saying, cause that's who

712
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: lists to right now. We gotta listen to the and

713
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: that's part of the business. I'm not but the real

714
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: guys want to hear from Denzel and Samuel. We want

715
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: to hear those stories, you know, you know, we from

716
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: the horse's man. We want to hear from the horse's mouth. Yeah,

717
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: those perspectives from those guys. What you know what I

718
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: mean about? You know what I mean so so it's

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Speaker 1: good to see you around the game though. Man, whenever

720
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: every time you get when you free man and see

721
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: you run the game, it's just a blessing for each other. Man. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I love being around it. Man. It always reinvigorates me. Man,

723
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: and I always feel like my happiest ever when I

724
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: when I attended them and the gym. So, mane you

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Speaker 1: be seeing me more, brother, I'm gonna come over the

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00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: little one, Bro, I'm gonna come, I'm gonna fall through.

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00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out, man, and we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'll definitely be at the real one when

729
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: the Classic against Long Beach Polly. Uh yeah, I'm definitely

730
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: gonna be at that batch up to watch you. I

731
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Speaker 1: love it for the season, man, it's great. You know

732
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: you get a chance to play against you know, a

733
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: team of Polly while they're young and their guys experienced.

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00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: They went all way to the I watched Pollies run

735
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: they lost the St. Bernards last year in the UH

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Speaker 1: state playoffs. Yeah you know what I mean, So that

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: I watched that. That was you know, those are good.

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Speaker 1: That's a good opportunity for us to grow right before

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Speaker 1: leave so for sure, yeah, for sure. Well knt wait

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Speaker 1: j Man. I appreciate you, brother, thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on kJ Live, Ladies and gentlemen. Jason Crow, Senior, one

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