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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you're having a

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Speaker 1: great day of Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every day.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of by coastal Midwestern whatever. I'm in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay there in Sherman, Oas, California. Jay Stew's here, Dan

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Speaker 1: Byers here, Iowa. Sam is here. We got the entire crew,

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Speaker 1: Spectacular college football weekend, fun college basketball weekend, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: what we thought has come true for the most part.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, although we still have to have questions

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Speaker 1: now about the kansasitate Chiefs, and maybe some of those

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Speaker 1: answers have been answered with the Denver Broncos. Can you

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Speaker 1: win ugly against the elite teams of the NFL, just

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Speaker 1: the bottom teams of the NFL? Welcome, Welcome in. I

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Speaker 1: went to Eagles Packers Monday Night. And that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a humble brag, but it's also setting for

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Speaker 1: you context of it, and the context should be that

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Speaker 1: one of the things I offered up this week and

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Speaker 1: the questioning Green Bay all week and even yesterday when

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Speaker 1: the Packers beat the Giants and Jordan Love looked great,

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Speaker 1: is why were the Packers so conservative on Monday Night?

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Speaker 1: And they kept running the football with Josh Jacobs instead

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Speaker 1: from Monday Night was having been there, I didn't think

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Speaker 1: that they utilized that the Eagles utilized AJ Brown at all.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not an AJ Brown guy, I'm not an

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Speaker 1: Eagle fan, but for a guy who I think all

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Speaker 1: of us deemed to be very, very talented, you would

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Speaker 1: think that they would use him even as a decoy

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like the Packers didn't pay attention to him,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't like they were throwing three guys his

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Speaker 1: So fast forward to last night, Sunday Night Football where

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Speaker 1: the Eagles take on the Lions and the Lions. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't block at all, couldn't block at all, and aj

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Speaker 1: Brown was the focal point season nine eleven targets was

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Speaker 1: a big focal point of the Eagles offense. And then

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Speaker 1: you have the Lions offense. What went wrong there? I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start with the Lions offense because again, I

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Speaker 1: when you're coaching, and quite frankly, when you're calling plays

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Speaker 1: in coaching, this is something that I'm very well equipped

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Even though basketball and football are are different,

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Speaker 1: there's some similarities. One of the things that's similar and Buyer,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you and I have talked about this,

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Speaker 1: but I pattern what we do offensively after the Kansaity Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And here's why. The Kansasity Chiefs. They don't run that

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Speaker 1: many plays, you know, again to simplify and say they

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Speaker 1: they're going or what they're doing a lot of slight

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Speaker 1: of hand and then they run power or they run something.

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Speaker 1: They run these they got their screen game as always exquisite, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so there's a million different things, but really it's

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Speaker 2: Gus Maul's on with Auburn going to the National championship

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Speaker 3: Same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so yes, there's simplicity and execution, but

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Speaker 1: bunch of different stuff but you're really keeping it simple.

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Speaker 1: You just have to have your guys understand the Aha,

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Speaker 1: it looks different but it's really the same. And then

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Speaker 1: you know you have to read the defense within it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm the play caller for our team, and you can

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Speaker 1: if you think I'm about it, it's okay. But I

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Speaker 1: can tell you when I'm watching Dan Campbell, I think

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't like an effort to get him football.

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Speaker 1: Here's Nick Siryani about AJ Brown get more involve.

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Speaker 5: We're always trying to get Aj involved, always, always, always, always,

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Speaker 5: And the game play is played differently each and every

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Speaker 5: I've been shy about saying this. The game plan is

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Speaker 1: Can I just point out Dan that Sirianni did it again?

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Speaker 1: Going forward on fourth down with three minutes to go

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Speaker 1: Like listen, and and I get it. You like you

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Speaker 1: go like, oh, you won five games as a coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I know that there's no possibly when your defense

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Speaker 1: And if they want to score, fine, then they got

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Speaker 1: second straight week he's done it, second straight week and

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Speaker 1: they've won both games. It does not make the process correct, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm not anti Nick Seriani. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, like, there's no reason. There was

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Speaker 1: you run the ball, get it to the two minute warning,

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Speaker 1: and then every play after that they got to call timeouts, right,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows that. And the Packers would have used there

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Speaker 1: so again, mission would have been accomplished. But the Packers

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Speaker 1: much time he left on it. It's like he wants

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Speaker 1: but that's how bad those decisions were.

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Speaker 2: I felt it was a unifying time in America that

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Speaker 2: outside of Eagles and Packers and maybe Bears fans, that

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Speaker 2: everybody was so happy that the Lions not only stopped

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Speaker 2: the Eagles, it was on a tush push play. Like,

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Speaker 2: not only was it a stupid play to even go

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Speaker 2: So someone stopped it, and they did it in a

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Speaker 2: I had no idea what he was doing, and then

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Speaker 2: the camera immediately pans to him. I mean, we heard

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Speaker 2: that the AJ Brown pass was called by Hurts and

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Speaker 2: Brown in Green Bay on Monday night, but this was

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Speaker 2: just this was atrocious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of it's bad. It just it doesn't make

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Speaker 1: it's like the Colts back when they had Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: like you know what, let's put the ball in our

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Speaker 1: The same thing with Tom Brady. And this is not

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Speaker 1: to take as it takes a little shot at Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: but nobody would say that Jalen hurts. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like you haven't Jalen Hurts passed. You're going to touch

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Speaker 1: push which has been highly highly successful. Your defense for

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Speaker 1: the second straight week has been absolutely thoroughly and completely

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Speaker 1: physically dominant over the opponent. The Lions could not block

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Speaker 1: you at all, and you're like gifting them that kind

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Speaker 1: the Eagles do what they They overcome what I think

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Speaker 1: is additional chances brought on by an overly aggressive offensive

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Speaker 1: play call. And oh yeah, by the way, the Lions

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Speaker 1: they got stopped five times on fourth down five times,

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Speaker 1: five times. Everybody wants their play call or be aggressive

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Speaker 1: until five times he doesn't get it on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, the Eagles were also

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Speaker 1: helped out by just an atrocious defensive pass interference. So

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Speaker 1: the Lions kick a field goal, have a chance to

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Speaker 1: get a stop. Then on third down, what would have

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. Probably wouldn't have done it because their offensive

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Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth and his reaction to the penalty call. Oh,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, that is terrible.

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Speaker 5: That is an absolutely terrible call that it's going to

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Speaker 1: If anything, it's an offensive push. Yeah, it wasn't an

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Speaker 1: offensive push on aj Brown. It wasn't a defensive passer

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Speaker 1: fits on Rockinson. It was a terrible call. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it It didn't decide the game, but it

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Speaker 1: sealed the game, right, It didn't decide the game, It

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Speaker 1: sealed the game. The Eagles were the better football team.

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Speaker 1: They kicked the Lions ass. Forget about the final score.

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Speaker 1: But that was a terrible call to end that game. Awful.

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Speaker 7: So these are two assistant coaches with Minnesota. Yes, they've

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Speaker 7: First and foremost. I don't know if they can coach

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Speaker 2: Nothing like a good restaurant recommendation and hot chicken is

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Speaker 2: I'm always open to a new hot chicken place.

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Speaker 2: This establishment has a location up near Jason Stewart to myself,

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Speaker 2: So I said yesterday because I was. I was at

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Speaker 9: I just went strips. I didn't go with the sandwich.

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Speaker 9: When a new place opens up around here, we can

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Speaker 1: But yep, I know what that place is. Let's get

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Speaker 7: This really caught my eye and I love it only

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Speaker 7: mean the president. At premiere, Donald Trump was on a

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Speaker 1: I understand that the results were what was it for?

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Speaker 1: Other people to got it? I had an MRI? Is

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Speaker 10: The doctor said it was the best result he has

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Speaker 7: My super hot girlfriend Christina and I just sat up

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Speaker 7: So many, so many things that were funny about this.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what makes an MRI great, but that

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Speaker 9: It's like, all timer, It's like looking at the scene

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Speaker 1: I'm crying, Okay, Sammy yours.

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Speaker 9: Well, it was a consecutive miserable sports week for me.

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Speaker 9: I was talking about my cousin Adam, who's a very

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Speaker 8: His son Adlai is a kicker at Washington State.

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Speaker 9: Now well, his younger son, Henry helped his two state

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Speaker 9: Your Class two way Van Meter Bulldogs to the state

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Speaker 8: That was nice. He's a very proud sports dad.

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Speaker 9: Henry's the quarterback for the Van Meter Bulldogs there in

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Speaker 9: So Adam just can't can't stop brimming with pride being

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Speaker 8: Oh, it was so good.

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Speaker 8: No, up in the corner, it's I was playing into.

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Speaker 9: Henry looks awesome. Was that him in the picture? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: You really think I saw this on CNN or something.

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Speaker 9: I was trying to do a little winking and nod

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Speaker 9: but of course I was. I was playing with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Did you have you guys seen the It's a gift

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Speaker 1: for a screen grab. Where so Bronnie James got to

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Speaker 1: the G League. But Bronni didn't score a point in

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Speaker 1: his start. And so somebody put career high twenty six

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Speaker 1: chest passes, career high nine streams set seven minutes in

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Speaker 1: the corner. So it looks like twenty six, nine and seven,

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Speaker 1: and it's really twenty six chess passes, nine screen set,

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Speaker 1: seven minutes in the corner. I love it. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to what we hated from the weekend. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: our resident Oh we got breaking news, breaking news with

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Didn't breaking news from Fox Sports Doug.

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Speaker 2: A report from ESPN says that Virginia Tech in former

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Speaker 2: Penn State head coach James frank Glinn have agreed the

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Speaker 2: terms on a contract that will make him the next

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Hokies football program.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. I mean when you think about it, at

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Speaker 1: the start of the year, when they first made the

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Speaker 1: coaching change, you would have thought it'd probably be Shane Beemer,

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Speaker 1: and then Shane Biemer South Carolina team's had a disappointing year.

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Speaker 1: Then they're up thirty to three at the half against

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Speaker 1: A and M. You're like, oh, here we go Beamer

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Speaker 1: ball and they lose thirty one thirty. But James Franklin, like, look,

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Speaker 1: if he can get Virginia Tech to where Penn State

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Speaker 1: has been, then that would be amazing. The ACC has

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Speaker 1: no chance of being viewed as a, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the three big conferences until Florida State, Clemson, Virginia

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Speaker 1: Tech are back to where they should be among college

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Speaker 1: football's elite, and Franklin has built he may not have

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Speaker 1: been able to conquer, but he has built. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to what we hated from the weekend. Here's Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Doug, you guys all watch the same game I did,

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Speaker 7: right You guys watched the Chiefs and Eagles, and I'm

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Speaker 7: sorry Chiefs, Broncos and the Eagles Lions.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if.

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Speaker 7: You think about it, each of those teams, the Eagles

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Speaker 7: and the Broncos are the best representation of their conferences

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Speaker 7: right now. And I said a week ago in this

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Speaker 7: segment that I want the Broncos to go to the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl because maybe at

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Speaker 7: some point that'll be the telling sign to the Commissioner

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Speaker 7: of Football that we need to do something about this product.

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Speaker 7: Because the Broncos are a poor representation of our best team.

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Speaker 7: I would make the same case for the Eagles. I

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Speaker 7: don't know if you guys suffered through this as much

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Speaker 7: as I did, or maybe I'm just maybe too keenly

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Speaker 7: looking at this stuff. But with the Eagles playing the

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Speaker 7: Packers on one off game last week, the Eagles playing

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Speaker 7: last night, it is a dreadful watch. It's awful. I

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Speaker 7: didn't see many like great plays of athleticism. I didn't

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Speaker 7: see any creativity. It's like NFL teams are playing in mud,

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Speaker 7: like literally figuratively yesterday in mud, and you're sitting there

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Speaker 7: watching the game and you have to look at your

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Speaker 7: phone because it's not riveting. There's nothing compelling. And then

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Speaker 7: for the game to end on that DPI by the

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Speaker 7: Lions player and to hear Collinsworth say this out loud.

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Speaker 1: Oh, come on, come on, that is terrible.

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Speaker 5: That is an absolutely terrible call that it's going to

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Speaker 5: decide this football game.

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Speaker 1: If anything, it's an offensive pleash.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was pretty pointed for a guy on

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Speaker 7: a rights holder like NBC to say it. And then

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Speaker 7: I saw somebody from NFL media and I can't remember who,

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Speaker 7: maybe like Greg Rosenthal or something, and he summed it

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Speaker 7: up perfectly. A terrible call to end a terrible game.

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Speaker 7: And that's how we all felt as viewers. That was

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Speaker 7: a horrible game to watch see. And if the Eagles

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Speaker 7: and the Chiefs are the Eagles and the Broncos are

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Speaker 7: the best representation of each conference, the NFL has a problem.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Eagles offense is hard on your mental health.

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Speaker 9: If you're watching that, it's it's just hard. It's a

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Speaker 9: hard watch. It's not good looking offense. It's not good

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Speaker 9: looking football. And yeah, that call was weak week that

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Speaker 9: game was back to back here, Packers, Eagles, Eagles, Lions.

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Speaker 3: Those are tough watches.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. What about you, Dan Barrson, you hate it

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Speaker 1: from the weekend, Doug.

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Speaker 2: I hate that I was right. I hate that nobody's

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Speaker 2: talking about how I was right. The Seahawks lost to

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Speaker 2: the Rams yesterday, and some would say on a sixty

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Speaker 2: one yard field goal that was missed by Jason Myers.

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Speaker 2: So I might say that right. Ernest Jones may tell

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Speaker 2: me to bleep off. But Sam Donald threw four interceptions yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks lead the NFL in turnovers, something that I

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Speaker 2: have talked about now for weeks on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: whether it be here on the dou Gottlieb Show, whether

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Speaker 2: it be with Carrie Rhodes on End Zone Radio every Sunday,

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Speaker 2: whether it be with Mike Harmon on the I Want

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Speaker 2: Your Flex Podcast. I was shouting from the mountaintops, Doug.

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Speaker 2: They have got to stop the turnovers. Donald threw again

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Speaker 2: four interceptions yesterday. That's ten on the season to go

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Speaker 2: along with his five fumbles. That's fifteen. He has fifteen

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Speaker 2: of the team's twenty turnovers this season. By the way,

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Speaker 2: twenty turnovers through eleven weeks of the season when you've

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Speaker 2: had a bye not good. He's seventy five percent of

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Speaker 2: their turnovers. Best in the NFL. OH they outplayed the

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Speaker 2: Rams yesterday. They did statistically in every facet except making

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Speaker 2: good plays and making bad plays. They were unable to

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Speaker 2: do it and that is very frustrating. As the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 7: It was the Tuesday morning quarterback when you said on

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Speaker 7: this show and correct me which one I'm getting wrong here?

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Speaker 7: You either said that the Seahawks loss in the eventual

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Speaker 7: playoffs will come because of Donald's interception or you said

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Speaker 7: their loss to the Rams on Sunday will be because

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Speaker 7: of a Donald interception. Which one was it? But you

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Speaker 7: did call it.

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Speaker 2: I've just said and specifically, and if they lose, it

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Speaker 2: would probably be because of turnovers.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: And it just was completely it was frustrating, just frustrating

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Speaker 2: to see it happen again and again and they still

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Speaker 2: almost pulled it out. And that's what people don't see.

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Speaker 2: I was even asked about I was on in yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I was on with Brian no and Bill Krackenberger and

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz on Countdown to Kickoff. This is my little

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Speaker 2: bit of analysis.

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Speaker 8: Dan Byer with us, how about this?

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Speaker 12: Now?

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Speaker 9: Do you believe this what Cracks saying about the fools

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Speaker 9: gold Seahawks?

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Speaker 8: If you will, Dan, or you signed off on that show.

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Speaker 2: You know, I may be a little biased. I think

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Speaker 2: that the real deal, that they are the real deal. However,

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams are the best team in football

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Speaker 2: right now. So that's what's going to make today very,

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Speaker 2: very fun. And then I think I said something about

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks turning the football over. But anyway, I've been

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Speaker 2: saying it for weeks. I've been saying it for weeks,

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Speaker 2: and it happened yesterday, Doug, and it took me off.

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Speaker 3: That's what I hated. Four turnovers.

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Speaker 1: You had been saying it, and you were right. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to Iowa, was.

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Speaker 9: Him, Well, this disappointing season of Hawkeye heartbreak continues. I

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Speaker 9: was sitting cozily in my living room watching Iowa take

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Speaker 9: on USC and they found a way to lose. This

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Speaker 9: is just like you know, it's a script flip from

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Speaker 9: last week. Last week they were down fifteen to seven

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Speaker 9: to Oregon. They came up and they got it, had

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Speaker 9: sixteen fifteen, only to lose on a last second field goal.

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Speaker 9: This week, Iowa gets out to a twenty one to

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Speaker 9: seven lead. Mark Gronowski, quarterback for Iowa, throws a touchdown,

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Speaker 9: he runs for a touchdown, and he catches a touchdown.

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Speaker 9: They look incredible on offense twenty one to seven, and

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Speaker 9: then Iowa would not score a point after that and

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Speaker 9: they would lose twenty six twenty one. So this futility,

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Speaker 9: going back to twenty twenty one of not beating ranked teams,

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Speaker 9: it just seems like this endless nightmare. Iowa good but

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Speaker 9: not great right there, but not.

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Speaker 3: Cross Lincoln Riley's celebration. Do you like that?

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Speaker 8: So an Iowa assistant, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: He walked onto the field or did something to draw

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Speaker 9: a penalty flag and that sealed the game, and Lincoln

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Speaker 9: Riley was loving it, jumping up and down on the sidelines,

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Speaker 9: hugging his guys and yeah whatever, I mean, I just

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Speaker 9: at that point.

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Speaker 3: I was just disgusted.

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Speaker 9: I was just like, jeez, just yeah, go eight and

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Speaker 9: four again with no meaningful wins and yet another season.

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Speaker 8: So that's my hate.

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Speaker 1: So you resigned to Iowa football. That's why we're Iowa,

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Speaker 1: I mean are.

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Speaker 9: You can pretty much sum up all of Iowa's main

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Speaker 9: sports men's basketball, women's basketball, and football just good but

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Speaker 9: not great, not championship level, and that's just been like

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Speaker 9: that for pretty much forty years.

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Speaker 3: They were in a trick play.

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Speaker 9: I loved it, and then and then the second half

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Speaker 9: it was just all U see and they got some

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Speaker 9: great Makai Lemon, they got their quarterbacks really good, they

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Speaker 9: got some good players, but Iowa couldn't score after that.

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Speaker 8: It's very disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Mine is love and hate. It all happened in once

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Speaker 1: My My Green Bay Phoenix played their absolute hearts out

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Speaker 1: and were able to make some shots and send the

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Speaker 1: game to overtime. Nearly lost in regulation on a mid

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Speaker 1: court shot after you know, scored with two seconds ago,

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Speaker 1: so it throws it in. It was just after the buzzer.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I hate. I hate replay rules where

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Speaker 1: you can only I can't challenge foul calls, and I

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Speaker 1: can only challenge things that are you know, inbounds, out

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Speaker 1: of bounds, whatever, if they've been called goaltend, if it's

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Speaker 1: been called like we're gonna have replay, let us use replay.

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Speaker 1: If we don't have replay, then don't let us use replay.

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Speaker 1: The partial use of it plus the pace of it.

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Speaker 1: Because basketball is such a quick game that you literally,

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Speaker 1: without any sort of knowledge, you see something, if it's

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Speaker 1: in live game action at that very moment, you have

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Speaker 1: to use a replay, and it's a time out if

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Speaker 1: you don't get it right. I just don't like the

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Speaker 1: replay rules. I don't mind using the timeout. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind only have one challenge, but if I can challenge some,

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Speaker 1: I can be able to challenge some goaltend foul, no foul,

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Speaker 1: out of bounds, substitution, being wrong, travel anything. I shabeldes.

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Speaker 1: I hate three play rules.

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Speaker 3: That graphic you sent us was cold about Bronny.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that funny?

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Speaker 3: Seven minutes in the corners?

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Speaker 1: Just so funny? So funny, and that's loving hate.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 6: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox

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Speaker 6: sports radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: App Stuck gotleip show. You listen to Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: so uh Shore Sanders got to play. It wasn't very good.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't very good.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's Shore Sanders talking about his first naps in the

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Speaker 1: NFL game.

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Speaker 4: First and foremost one to thank God from giving me

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to get out there. That's all you could

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Speaker 4: ask for, honestly, the chance to get out there, get

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Speaker 4: your feet wet, to experience how it feels, you know,

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Speaker 4: to even be out there with the team. We have

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Speaker 4: the first group with everybody, so I'm truly he was excited.

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Speaker 4: It was a rough day overall, but the thing that

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Speaker 4: I was excited about is just being able to get

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Speaker 4: out there.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's the first time I got hit like since since

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Speaker 4: my last game at Colorado. So just having that feeling back,

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Speaker 4: you know, is good.

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Speaker 1: Yep, no, I get it. It is good. It's definitely good.

655
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: He was four of sixteen through a bad pick, looked overwhelmed.

656
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Here's Rex Ryan on ESPN earlier today commenting on Shador

657
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Speaker 1: and what he was doing after the game.

658
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Speaker 12: He's got to get over himself too, like you like,

659
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 12: he's there by himself on the bench at the end

660
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 12: of the game. I've never seen I've seen it in

661
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 12: the seventh game of World Series when you lose a

662
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 12: game or whatever. This is a game. Is a pillow

663
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 12: fight game. Nobody cares? He cares back, Yeah, did he care?

664
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Speaker 12: Or you trying to make it a show? Make it

665
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 12: about yourself. You've got a guy over there that, by

666
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 12: the way, is a two time MVP. Right there, Lamar Jackson,

667
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 12: he was looking for you. He was looking for you

668
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 12: right there. Why didn't share a moment with him? All right?

669
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 12: All right, share a moment with Lamar. He looking all

670
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 12: over for you. They get in there with your teammates.

671
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 12: These are your teammates, all right, These are your teammates,

672
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 12: and talk about I'm not comfortable losing. You think anybody

673
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 12: in that locker room is they better not be?

674
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I just I don't know, Like, look we maybe

675
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: I compartmentalize things better than other people. Okay, I didn't

676
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: like to watch ACT. I definitely knew, you know why

677
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: he didn't get drafted. I didn't think it was a

678
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: crime against humanity that he fell in the draft or

679
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: the whole ACT or trying to determine and many things

680
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: he said. But what you can't do, or I don't

681
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: think you can do, is factor in those things, even

682
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: in the preseason or whatever. You know. The the miming

683
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: answers and just let's just take yesterday. Okay, he was bad,

684
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: it was awful, It looked it was kind of sad

685
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: to watch. Okay, but after the game in when you

686
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: play your first NFL game and you don't play well

687
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: and you're just sitting there and it happens really, really fast.

688
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's sitting there with his helmet in his hand.

689
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: He's listening, or he's got his helmet on, he's listen

690
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: all the play calls. Honest, Sden, you're in and you're like,

691
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: I've waited my whole life, and then you get in

692
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: there and you're terrible and your team loses again. It

693
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: comes at you really fast and you need it a minute.

694
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm not holding that against him, nor will I sit

695
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: here and say definably, this is who he is as

696
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. I've never been so infatued with Shador

697
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: Sanders that I wanted to claim racism or the things

698
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: that everyone's against him or whatever. What I can tell

699
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: you is, when you're a coach of somebody at his age,

700
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: and I coach people at his age, I have a

701
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: player who right now, if you saw him play like

702
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 1: he is not a very good basketball player. Why would

703
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: you have recurred him a sign him? And yet everybody

704
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: wanted him, me especially and my old staff were like,

705
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: he didn't play this way. It's just confidence can be

706
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: shattered and hard to rebuild. And that process of trying

707
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: to win a game while a player you're playing is

708
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: trying to regain his confidence or gain his footing, it

709
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: can be a very very difficult process. So this may

710
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Speaker 1: surprise you, but I'm going to tell you it's not

711
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: the end of the world or the end. I've never

712
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: been a Shador is the greatest. He's got to be

713
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: out there. He's got his flaws, he holds them all

714
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: too long. He doesn't have a super strong arm. He

715
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: is really accurate. He's he's mobile ish, but he's People

716
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: think because he's Dion's son that he's that type of athlete.

717
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: He's not. But he does have clever mobility in the pocket.

718
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: And he was awful. He was bad. It wasn't good.

719
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: But he'll get more opportunities and either he gets better

720
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: and he'll get more or he plays this way and

721
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: we won't see him much longer in the NFL. Is

722
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: that two matter of fact? Dan Byer, should I bring

723
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: in the baggage of his actions and people acting like

724
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: he should have been the number one overall pick and whatever,

725
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: and and and this is the in your face he stinks,

726
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: Like I thought, he played poorly, but again, we've seen

727
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: lots of quarterbacks come in cold first start and not

728
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: play well. Again, I'm not I'm not gonna be crazy

729
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: and over wreck, but I could be wrong, and it

730
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: could not go in line with how much we've talked

731
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: about him previously.

732
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's fair.

733
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you could expect anything from him,

734
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: to be honest, considering the lack of practice snaps that

735
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Speaker 2: he got with the first team. I don't know how

736
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: anybody succeeds in that situation. Maybe a fifteen year veteran

737
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: can come in and it's no problem, but for someone

738
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Speaker 2: who's a rookie in the National Football League, there's no

739
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: way that they could succeed. He had what four completions.

740
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Speaker 2: One of the incompletions, if I mean, if it's just

741
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: a little bit more on target, they maybe score a

742
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Speaker 2: touchdown and tie the game. So I would take the

743
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Speaker 2: positives from that throw. But to answer your question, I

744
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: think you're doing the right thing because I didn't realize

745
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: it until it was pointed out that he didn't shake

746
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: hands and didn't go off in talk with Lamar Jackson.

747
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: And I do think that that stuff is weird. So

748
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: you're doing a much better job of separating what you

749
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Speaker 2: think than what I am.

750
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Speaker 1: I'll just again, and maybe I'm personalizing too much. And

751
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: I understand if people think it's not the same or

752
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: you don't care. Whatever. Thursday night, we go to play

753
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas. I'm friends with Johnny Tower. He's the coach.

754
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. He's kind of a mentoring you know.

755
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: I think he's got a doctorate whatever. He's brilliant dude.

756
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: So we play poorly. I have a player suffer a

757
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: gruesome injury and after the game, like I just I want,

758
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: I have to go to the hospital. And two, I'm

759
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out my team and my own job.

760
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: And so even sent me a text checking in on

761
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the kid that was hurt. And I was a little

762
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: short with him for talk with him yesterday, and again

763
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: I know that's not how he normally would be, but

764
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Speaker 1: the context of the situation, which we played poorly, I

765
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: was upset and I was trying to kind of get

766
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: my balance and then trying to figure out what I

767
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: need to do protocol with this kid, how to manage

768
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: my own emotions with that deal. Right, So the point

769
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: is maybe I've built in more empathy than I should.

770
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: But I do know that. Guys. You have a player's

771
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: name's Justin Allen, and we'll talk about the sum in

772
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: the pod. He was a star in Division three, star

773
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: twenty six points a game, Carnegie Mellon. So we play

774
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: against Bradley in an exhibition and Dan, he was just

775
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: so nervous, so nervous. And then we played Kansas and like,

776
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, you got to think to yourself, like you've

777
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: been playing at a slightly above average When I'm saying

778
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: about average, I'm talking about the actual basketball team, not

779
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: the school, slightly above average Division three school, and now

780
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: you're playing at Kansas, right. And so for me, like

781
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I walk in and you know, like I think my

782
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: team and my players and how I coach, Like I've

783
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: been through all this stuff as a player and a broadcaster,

784
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: so it doesn't overwhelm me, so I don't I struggle

785
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: to relate to it. But the kid was shook up,

786
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Like they're shook because they've been waiting their whole lives.

787
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: They get an opportunity, and then they think they failed

788
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: and they let the world down, and it literally takes

789
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: them like two three weeks to get their confidence back,

790
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't ever get it back. And so

791
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: for Shador, my thing is when you've been the guy

792
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: playing for your memory, played for his dad his whole life,

793
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, now he's had to

794
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 1: battle and yet not getting first team reps whatever, and

795
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: he's not helping the situation. I'm not denying that, but

796
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: you go to that, to being kind of thrust into

797
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: a game first time ever and then you don't play well,

798
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: it's a shot at your ego, there's no question about.

799
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: It, and I am I'm much higher on how he

800
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: did play, considering the circumstances, Like I don't four of

801
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: sixteen is not great. Obviously, JJ McCarthy was one hopping

802
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: passes to receivers yesterday and we're still.

803
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: Not talking about him as much.

804
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Sure, so like there's I think that for the couple

805
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: of throws that I saw Shador make that I thought

806
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: were really good, I was impressed, But remember last year,

807
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: the year before he was there to be at the

808
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: handshake with Dion and Jay Norvell against Colorado State. It

809
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: was sure to be at that handshake.

810
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: No question. Yeah, suddenly disappears. I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: You cut You know, it does become a bad look

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Speaker 6: Mark Andrews under center takes a snap, reels always conrolls

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Speaker 6: on his own.

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Speaker 7: He's are the thirty Andrews of the.

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Speaker 9: Twenty ten five touch down Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Oh, what a creative call.

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Speaker 7: And Mark Andrews goes from the push push to the

825
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Speaker 7: big band sprint.

826
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Speaker 1: Now the Ravens have the lead that helped my fantasy

827
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Speaker 1: team as well, the fake bush pus, fake bush push

828
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Speaker 1: counter where Mark Andrews runs it in for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

830
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: It's a Monday. That means we get to catch up

831
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Speaker 1: with former GM of the Chargers for eleven years and

832
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders last year. He's a friend of Doug, a

833
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: friend of the program. He's Tom Telasco. He joins us

834
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's

835
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Speaker 1: start off with the most discussed fifth round pick, potentially

836
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: fourth string quarterback in the history of the universe. Obviously,

837
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: the stats look bad, but what were your thoughts as

838
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: a GM watching Shador Sanders and villain duty yesterday.

839
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm sure there'll be no irrational rants or analysis

840
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 11: of Shadur Sanders performance today, but just for contact, the

841
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 11: first thing I thought of was Jumper Herbert's first appearance

842
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 11: with his rookie year, because if you remember, I'm sure

843
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 11: you do, Like he didn't known till thirty seconds before

844
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 11: kickoff he was going to be playing in that game.

845
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 11: And this is week two of the season. He had

846
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 11: taken probably no first team reps Week one or two.

847
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 11: He maybe took a couple in training camp, but not

848
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 11: a lot. And this was during COVID, so there are

849
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 11: no preseason games. So his teammates and coaches literally had

850
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 11: never seen him play live until at first drive against

851
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 11: the Chiefs, So it's not unusual for a backup quarterback

852
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 11: not to have a lot of work during the week.

853
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 11: That's normal, and I mean it shows. I mean he

854
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 11: got in the game and Baltimore has an excellent defense,

855
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 11: they're smart, they brought a lot of pressure against them,

856
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 11: and he did what he could. I think this is

857
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 11: gonna work out perfect for Cleveland because now he'll get

858
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 11: a full week of practice and they're gonna get a

859
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 11: glimpse of what maybe he can do, so they can

860
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 11: kind of see what they have for the future. But realistically,

861
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter at quarterback for Cleveland, whether it's Flaco,

862
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 11: whether it's still in Gabriel, whether it's Trador, whether it's

863
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 11: the legendary Bernie Kosar. Their offense just doesn't have an

864
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 11: infrastructure right now on the offensive line at the still

865
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Speaker 11: positions to be competitive yet, so they will in the future.

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Speaker 11: They have a lot of AMMO. They had an awesome

867
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Speaker 11: draft last year, but right now there just isn't enough

868
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 11: on offense around no matter who the quarterback is right

869
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Speaker 11: now to be productive.

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Speaker 1: I get that completely. Of course, there's no room for

871
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: rational analysis of this. But in our most rational sense, right,

872
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: you have to watch for traits or things that you

873
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: can grow on or if the he just doesn't have

874
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Speaker 1: it right. Granted, limited sample size, no worktime with the

875
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Speaker 1: first group, and the first group isn't that good. But

876
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're gonna get more reps and a

877
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: deeper look. But with half a game in what do

878
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: you think.

879
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 11: He showed a couple of throws which you saw in

880
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Speaker 11: college that piques your interests, Like, he can stand in

881
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 11: the pocket, you can stand tall, he can deliver, he's

882
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 11: got a strong arm. He saw that on the one

883
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Speaker 11: deep dig to Fan and it was a great throw.

884
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Speaker 11: But you also saw the same thing as so on

885
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Speaker 11: college that he's gonna have to work out of is

886
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Speaker 11: the holding out of the football in the pocket. They're

887
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Speaker 11: trying to back out the backside of the pocket, which

888
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 11: is almost impossible for any any quarterback to do unless

889
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 11: you're Mahomes. Now, there were some snaps yesterday that he

890
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 11: really could not step up because there's so much pressure

891
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 11: coming in the middle. But he does have that that

892
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 11: trait that has to improve as far as being able

893
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 11: to in a normal pocket, be able to step up

894
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Speaker 11: against the pressure and not bail out the back end.

895
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Speaker 11: But that's going to take some time. It takes practice,

896
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Speaker 11: it takes development. But you did see some throw yesterday

897
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Speaker 11: that you know there's a reason why he was a

898
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Speaker 11: highly productive college quarterbacks. You have to keep building on that.

899
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's discuss the Lions and their offense. It's

900
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: just a disaster last night against the Eagles. It's interesting though,

901
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: because here in Green Bay, you know, the entire week

902
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Speaker 1: is Matt Laflour is so conservative. What is Matt Lafoor doing.

903
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: You gotta let Jordan Love throw the football, and of

904
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Speaker 1: course he does against the Giants and look straat. But

905
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Speaker 1: then you see that same Eagles defense when the Lions

906
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Speaker 1: try and throw it, and you know you got no

907
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: time at all for Jered golf none. So again, my

908
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: thing is how much of this last two weeks is

909
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Speaker 1: really the Eagles defense as much as the offense is

910
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Speaker 1: that they're going against.

911
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 11: That's a great point, Doug. I was just looking at

912
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Speaker 11: the Eagles defense. They did not start off the year well,

913
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Speaker 11: but they've kind of progressed and improved. And every year

914
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 11: is a different year, so you got to try and

915
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Speaker 11: figure out what are we this year? And you saw

916
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 11: the last two weeks. That's that's what they are. I mean,

917
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 11: the their their defensive front is very very difficult to

918
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Speaker 11: play against. And and it and it helps when you

919
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 11: play the Lions right now, the Lions. This is not

920
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 11: the same offensive line the Lions had last year. So

921
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 11: their interior, two guards and center are either new players

922
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Speaker 11: or a player that's been moved. And it showed up

923
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Speaker 11: last night. The Philly front just dominated them. And it

924
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Speaker 11: just felt like from a Detroit offense point of view,

925
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 11: And this is very subjective, but it just felt like

926
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Speaker 11: they were calling plays but not really running an offense.

927
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Speaker 11: If that makes any offense just no, there's.

928
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Speaker 1: There's there's there's a rhythm to it. There's a there's

929
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: a rhythm to it. Yeah, so I'll give you, let

930
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Speaker 1: me give let me give you the basketball. I completely

931
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Speaker 1: see it. Honestly, most times I would say, ah, but

932
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Speaker 1: I paid it because you know, it's one of the

933
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Speaker 1: things that that I've run into as a coach, which

934
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Speaker 1: is you know I've I did last year, I did

935
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Speaker 1: everything with the offense, you know, and called all the

936
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Speaker 1: plays this year. I have a really really accomplished coach

937
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Speaker 1: helping me with the offense. But I have there's a

938
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Speaker 1: rhythm to how I believe it should should play out.

939
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Speaker 1: You know, we run a bunch of our sets in

940
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Speaker 1: the first half, and I'm looking for how they're guarding it,

941
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Speaker 1: so we have different counters for when we need a

942
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Speaker 1: bucket in the second half. But again it's it's the

943
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: the best of the best play callers. They have a

944
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: there's a rhythm and a feeling to it, and they

945
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: know how to get everybody involved and how to how

946
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: to you know, go north, go go north south for

947
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of the game, only say you go east west.

948
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's where Dan Campbell, that's where

949
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: it's missing, where he's There's nothing wrong with the plays

950
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: that he's calling, but the execution and timing and overall

951
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: rhythm of it is is very off.

952
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 11: I see the exact same thing, and we haven't seen

953
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 11: golf play like that in years, and certainly and played

954
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 11: like that with the Lions, where he just I mean

955
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 11: he couldn't get the ball out. He's dirting the ball,

956
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 11: take the weather out of it. But there was just

957
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 11: no rhythm or feel to it. And there's too much

958
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 11: talent at the skilled positions there to play like that.

959
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 11: So obviously they made the offensive coordinator change. I thought

960
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 11: they were doing okay early in the year. I thought

961
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 11: it would take some time with the new coordinator to

962
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 11: really get their identity. It doesn't happen overnight. But I

963
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 11: also trust Dan Campbell because he's shown that he has

964
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 11: a good pulse to their football team. But it's just

965
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 11: it didn't look right last night. I think the offensive

966
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 11: line had something to do with that, and the Eagles

967
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 11: had a lot to do with that, but there was

968
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 11: just no fueler rhythm to the.

969
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Offense none whatsoever. Doug Gottliebschel, you're on Fox Sports Radio.

970
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Tom t Leasco is our guest. Of course, he's a

971
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: former jail manager of both the Chargers and the Raiders. Okay,

972
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Speaker 1: what happened to Sam Donald?

973
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Speaker 11: Sam Donald ran into a big time defense yesterday, and

974
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 11: actually both the fences were outstanding. But that was probably

975
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 11: probably the biggest thing that I saw yesterday as far

976
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 11: as how one team is going to play another. So,

977
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 11: the Seahawks has played a lot this year with multiple

978
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 11: tight ends, and on early downs they throwing the ball

979
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 11: a lot out of those multiple tight ends sets so

980
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 11: Chris Julo was a defense coordinator for the Rams and

981
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 11: does an outstanding job. They played a lot of nickel

982
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 11: and a lot of dime on early downs, which is

983
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 11: typically what you wouldn't want to do. You don't want

984
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 11: to get in that big versus little where they're big,

985
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 11: you're little, and if they run the ball, you're in

986
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 11: a disadvantage. But they went heavy nickel, heavy dime. They

987
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 11: played a lot of safeties rather than extra corners, and

988
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 11: it really helped kind of shut down the passing game

989
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 11: and shut which didn't shut down the exposive plays, it

990
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 11: really limited it. And I just thought it was a

991
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 11: great game plan. And Sam, you know, he's he's doing

992
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 11: outstanding job this year with exposive plays with big throws,

993
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 11: but he always has an achilles heel against some pressure

994
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 11: that he'll still take chances versus pressure and throws picks,

995
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 11: and he saw that yesterday. Not enough to worry about.

996
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 11: These were two of the best teams in the league

997
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 11: playing yesterday and two out stain in defenses. But I

998
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 11: just thought Chris shuld that it had a great game

999
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 11: plan to play against the Seahawks, and we'll probably if

1000
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 11: the other team start to try and copy that, and

1001
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 11: now you know, see I don't have to encounter. But

1002
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 11: I thought that was a really interesting way how they

1003
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 11: played the Seahawks'.

1004
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader that's the

1005
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: voice of Tom to LESCo, long time gentle manager in

1006
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League. It was nineteen. All the Chiefs

1007
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: have the ball and You're like, man, how many times

1008
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: have I seen this before? Pat Mahome is gonna win

1009
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: this game? Turns out it's the Broncos who end up

1010
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: getting win. What did you see in the Broncos late

1011
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: win over their ASC West rival.

1012
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 11: Well, like you said, I mean, it's a close game,

1013
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 11: so I wouldn't you know, I'm not ready to put

1014
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 11: Kansas City in the coffee yet. It was, you know,

1015
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 11: tight throughout, and I thought Kansas City's defense, I mean

1016
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 11: they hung in there, really held them, held Denver to

1017
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 11: field goals, not touchdown. They just didn't get enough stops.

1018
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 11: But Denver's defense is one of the best in the league.

1019
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 11: Their front, the defensive front, is one of the best

1020
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 11: in the league, and unfortunately for the Chiefs on the

1021
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 11: other side, their weakness is the offensive lineup, pass protection

1022
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 11: and certainly on the edges. So that was a that

1023
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 11: was a mismatch really all day for the Broncos pass rushers,

1024
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 11: and and that showed up again.

1025
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: In the game.

1026
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 11: But again it's tight, it's close. Chiefs won a lot

1027
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 11: all these games or majority of them last year. This

1028
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 11: year not quite the same. And the Broncos have a

1029
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 11: great formula right now. They have Broncos have one of

1030
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 11: the best offensive lines in the league. They have a

1031
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 11: great defensive line. And when you can play well in

1032
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 11: the trenches on both sides, that that kind of leads

1033
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 11: to consistency, and that's what we're seeing. The record shows

1034
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 11: that as far as how they're playing, and bo Nixt

1035
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 11: states the Broncos relied on him yesterday, especially in the

1036
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 11: second half, and he came through. But to me, it

1037
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 11: was really about O line D line yesterday and the

1038
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 11: Broncos just had more up front against the Chiefs offensive line.

1039
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I I tend to tend to agree

1040
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: with you. What do you think happens with Kyler Murray? Right,

1041
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Like Jacob said, through for a million yards yesterday, but

1042
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: really ineffective in comparison. And you know, he had the

1043
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: two picks and they had they had another fumble as well.

1044
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Cardinals have said, you know

1045
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: that even if healthy, he wouldn't be the starter. What

1046
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: happens with the Kyler Murray?

1047
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 11: Well, if it's not Kyler, then who? And I know

1048
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 11: that GM and head coach weren't there when when Kyler

1049
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 11: was drafted. But I love Jacoby Brissette, but I love

1050
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 11: him in a role and you and I can both

1051
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 11: sit here and we know that's yeah, he's an excellent backup.

1052
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 11: But if it's not Kyler Murray, okay, who? And and

1053
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 11: are you going to be drafting high? I have to

1054
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 11: draft a quarterback this year? Possibly not, And even if

1055
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 11: you are, there aren't that many this year. Okay, So

1056
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 11: you've got the draft that's going to be light. And

1057
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 11: then in free agency, very few starters, you know, legit

1058
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 11: starters come out in free agencies, so they're gonna have

1059
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 11: to make a decision there. I think Kyler still has

1060
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 11: plenty of talent. And it's again it's a new regime,

1061
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 11: but I'm just not ready to give up on him yet.

1062
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 11: He's too athletic, he's got a strong arm, he can

1063
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 11: make a lot of plays outside the pocket. He's hard

1064
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 11: to prepare for They've gradually upgrade the talent on that team.

1065
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 11: But again, like if you want to move on from him,

1066
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 11: where are you going to go? And right now, there

1067
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 11: aren't a lot of places to go.

1068
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: No, No. Bryce Young obviously struggled last year, lost his

1069
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: job for a little bit, got it back statistically yesterday

1070
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: his best day as a pro. Four to forty eight,

1071
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: three touchdowns known receptions. Where are you on Bryce Young

1072
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: long term with the Panthers.

1073
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 11: I'm just not assure you. I know, you put up

1074
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 11: a great amount of yards yesterday. I had to hit

1075
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 11: a very nice game, you know against the Falcons defense

1076
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 11: that's been up and down. Two weeks ago the Panthers

1077
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 11: got to win against the Packers and you know, Bryce

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Speaker 11: through for one hundred yards in less than fifty percent completion.

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Speaker 11: So it's been a little bit up and down. I

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Speaker 11: think Dave kanalas quietly has done more with less any

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Speaker 11: coach in the NFL this year. He's doing an amazing

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Speaker 11: job with the whole team. And defensively, j Everroe has

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Speaker 11: done a great job. I mean, they had one of

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Speaker 11: the worst defenses in the league last year, and I

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Speaker 11: didn't think they did a lot to improved first l

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Speaker 11: wise over the over the offseason and they're balling out

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Speaker 11: right now. So with with I just don't know at

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Speaker 11: the quarterback spot with Bryce Young, is he the guy now?

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Speaker 11: If he has enough talent around him, which they've gotten better,

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Speaker 11: maybe he's got a chance. And he shows some yesterday.

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Speaker 11: But just with the with the size, it just it

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Speaker 11: shows up a lot. You know how he plays in

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Speaker 11: the pocket now, he's got very quick guys. You can

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Speaker 11: get the ball out quickly, but it's it's hard playing

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Speaker 11: in his size for a long over the long haul

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Speaker 11: in this league. So we'll see. Like yesterday it was

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Speaker 11: great and it needs to keep coming on and the

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Speaker 11: talent is gradually getting better with the Panthers. But you know,

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Speaker 11: we shall see. But you know this can't be a

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Speaker 11: week to week up and down or you look at

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Speaker 11: the whole body work. The whole body works to me,

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Speaker 11: so it needs to keep coming along with them.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, Tom, Thanks so much for joining us. Look

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Speaker 1: forward to our weekly weekly chat. Appreciate being our guest

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: Doug