1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Can I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: coblt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're out the radio 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: from one until four. That after four o'clock it's the 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: John Cobalt Show on demand on the iHeart app as well, 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: and we're all ready to go. Steve Gregory has more 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: stories than I can count right to talk about. These 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: are all John Cobalt stories. These are all stories that 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: I've saved knowing that this was going to be of 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: interest to you, but like had my own personal correspondent, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: that's true, just to feed my interest. Yes, in fact, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and there's a third story that you were not briefed on, 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: but I will tip you off on here a little 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: bit later. But first, one of the things I know 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: near and dear to your heart was the fire under 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: the ten freeway. Yes, back in November. I'm sure they 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: caught the guy to buy that right, not even close. No, 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: apparently he's still on the loose, even though they had 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good description and a very detailed description. But 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: the state has now been paying for security guards to 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: dan guard at those properties owned by Ahmed Nawad, the 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: guy that owned or sub leased the properties from the state. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: If people don't recall that massive storage outdoor storage area 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: down there under the ten in downtown LA had caught 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: fire on November tenth, and it was eight acres worth 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: of storage space, all open air, and Nawad allegedly was 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: subleasing it out even further to other tenants against his 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: lease and against the contract with the state. So Governor 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: Newsom I remember at a press conference telling us that 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: they were filing a lawsuit against Nawad to evictim because 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: they had been trying multiple times to a vict him 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: and it wasn't working out. So I guess he's due 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: in court. We were told later in January, early February, 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: so we're waiting for that. Meanwhile, they are paying these 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: security guards to stand guard at all five of his 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: least properties, so and they're all under the ten, and 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: these guards have been tasked with look for anything suspicious 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: and watch out for plumes of smoke. They think he 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: was setting fires. No, they just don't want to make 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: sure no one else starts starts fires. They don't think 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: he started the fires per se, but they are accusing 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: him of allowing the conditions, the pervasive conditions in these 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: least areas to create flammable and dangerous areas. So that's 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: the biggest you know, that was the biggest accusation against 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Are all those businesses still operating on the land he leased. 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Presumably they are, and they're all going to be evicted, 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: and that's why they have security guards down there now 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: so no one can take stuff out of there. And 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the business owners, the people that had their food vendor 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: carts or other vehicles and stuff in there, now they're 50 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of beside themselves because they're saying, we're losing tons 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: of money here because we can't get our equipment. They 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: can't take the equipment out and can come under there 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: to work anymore. 54 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: No, it's my. 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Understanding that that thing is sealed off and they don't 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: want him in there. There's no more business changing, no 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: more money changing hands, normal normal business going on in 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: those open air areas. But the businesses that were subleasing, 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: they're innocent, really well they are sure, I mean, why 60 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: can't they take their equipment and because they don't have 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: to work somewhere else, they don't have an agreement with 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the state, They don't the state doesn't know who's who 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: and what it belongs to, right, that's an agreement between 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: them and the WAD. 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so the state doesn't really care. 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: That's like you and I going down there and saying, hey, 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: that's our foods, that's our hot dog cart over there, 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: give us our hot dog cart back. I don't see 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: your name anywhere. Is there any way to resolve this 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: in court? And that's what they're waiting for. They're waiting 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: to take the guy to court. Now most of these 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: were were they illegal bibrance or oh? 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: And it was. 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: It was a cross cross stitch of everything. I mean, 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: there was all kinds of different types of There were 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: laborers down there, I mean totally them, a businesses, food trucks, 77 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: people just looking for outdoor space to store stuff. How 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: this is truly, almost literally an underground economy. Yeah, and 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: you think about it under the freeway economy. He had 80 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: dozens of other sub lessees, dozens, yeah, that were between 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: all the properties he was leasing from the state. And 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: these were all down the ten Freeway, all in the 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: various spots. He had at least five open air areas 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: that he was leasing himself through his two companies, his 85 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: two development companies. So for all these years, the state 86 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: would send inspectors. The inspectors would see what's going on. 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: They never had a problem with any of it. I 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: don't know that the inspectors knew about the subleasing. All 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: they were all they cared about was how the stuff 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: was being stored as far as the So they didn't 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: know who owned the lease, Well, no they didn't. They 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: didn't know about the subleasing. They knew that A Lad 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Nawad was the name or at least his companies. But 94 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean if they noticed these food trucks of these 95 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: various other storage businesses, that they could have assumed it 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: was all. 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: In the wide exactly. 98 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, So what I mean so that the agreement 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: is between Nawad and the state not only sub leases 100 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: or less thees. Do you think they're going looking for 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: the alleged arsionist? But do you think there's an active 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: investigation and they're pulling out all the stops to get 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: this guy? I mean, he almost brought down an interstate freeway. 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: You know, you've known me a long time. I'm not 105 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist. 106 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm not. No, you're not. 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not ideal on facts, and I deal with what's 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: in front of me. But I can't help but think 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: that now CalFire is a great organization as his La 110 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: City Fire. All those groups, those firefighters and inspectors are 111 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: great people. That said, I can't help, but think of 112 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: the political influence that this particular case has. You could 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: tell right out of the shoot if you go back 114 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: to Karen Bass and the governor both immediately sort of 115 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: telling us not to jump to conclusions about this being 116 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: a homeless person that started the fire. They were all 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: they were already telling us and conditioning and grooming us 118 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: not to say it was a homeless person. The saying 119 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting at here, because immediately Newsom came 120 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: out and turned Nawad into public Enemy number one because 121 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: he was violating his lease by subletting out the space. 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And obviously there was a lot of dangerous materials building 123 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: up there, but that's for the inspectors to take care of, 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: and they didn't from various reports. But everything was about 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: playing a misdirection game where you weren't focusing on Hey, 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: it's a homeless guy. He almost brought down the freeway. 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: A homeless guy brought down the freeway and we don't 128 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Hey, look at that bad 129 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: guy over here, look at these subleases, look at this 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: taco truck or whatever the hell they had parked under there, 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: and then everything, you know, they came up with this 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous Oh my god, you know, this could be months. 133 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: Then it turns out to be a matter of days, again, 134 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: further diluting the story, further distracting everybody, and at the 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: end of it, we're still missing the homeless guy who 136 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: supposedly started the fire. What's interesting is that my colleagues 137 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: and I, when we would go to these press conferences 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: downtown and we would observe these things and just watch 139 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: how it was all being crafted and put together, we 140 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: were all pretty much manipulated from the beginning. Yeah, I mean, 141 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: it's very very clear. And I'm not even again, I'm 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: not being conspiratorial about this. I can tell. And there's 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot that the people don't know that I overheard. 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: That's down there. And you can listen and watch and 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: you observe. And I've been doing this long enough to 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: know they're very careful who they place where, who's got 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: to stand next to whom, where's you know, it's all 148 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: calculated and it has to look a certain way, and 149 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: come off a certain way. Who gets to go first, 150 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: who gets to go second? You know, Well, that's why 151 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to keep talking about this, because these stories 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: then die because there's no new information to feed the story. Right, 153 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to broadcast another piece of the story 154 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: if you don't have any any details. But there's still 155 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 1: an arsonist out there, and they have a pretty decent 156 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: photo of him, and well not even the photo, but 157 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: a very very detailed description, including an injury to his 158 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: leg right in a backpack and the colors of the 159 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and here's the thing. Anyone down there on 160 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: skid Row, in that whole area down there, they know 161 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: there's a cash reward for that guy. So I'm telling 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: you the tip line exploded down there. I just wonder 163 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: why no one has been caught. And do you think 164 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: that after a while, it'll just sort of yeah? I 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: think it already is. I think it already has faded away. Yeah, 166 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: because the last time when I heard about your security story, 167 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: you told me about it, I thought, well, I want 168 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: to get into that because of the story itself that 169 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: they're suddenly defending the perimeter there, but. 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Also to once again point out, is they never caught. 171 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: The arsonist, that they have a clear photo, because the 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: next time officials are going to talk about this, because 173 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: they haven't talked about it at all. The next time 174 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: they're going to talk about it is when the guy 175 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: is in court, right, and then that again, that'll be 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the villain, he'll be the bad guy. Yeah, and then 177 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: that's you know, and then and then our questions will 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: be coming up again, well will you ever find the arsonist? 179 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Well no, but this guy is the one. 180 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: No. 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: One didn't start the fire. He was just try to 182 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: make extra money subleasing. And if you really want to 183 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: go back further, if the state had taken action when 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: he was first deemed for all the violations, perhaps it 185 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: would they've gotten this bad exactly. The inspectors were doing 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: their job, they would have cited him for all the excess. Now, 187 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: I mean, where were the guards before? Why weren't Why 188 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the state that worried about it before? 189 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 190 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Again, I just can't help but feel that this was 191 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: manipulation at its finest. All right, we come back. Part 192 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: two is uh, we're going to talk about an LAPD 193 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: officer whose leg was broken by a homeless guy on a. 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Metro, another reason to take the Metro. Uh John Cobalt Show. 195 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 196 00:09:59,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: six forty. 197 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: We have Steve Gregory on and we just went through 198 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: the new security guards that are guarding the Interstate ten 199 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: underpasses where that fire occurred two months ago, and they're 200 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: trying to keep the landlord out and make sure nobody 201 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: takes away any of the equipment that's stored under there, 202 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and to keep an eye on plumes of smoke, right, 203 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: plums of smoke. Still haven't gotten the arsifice though, that's 204 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: eluded them. In about a minute, we're going to talk 205 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: about the deal that the President of Mexico is willing 206 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: to make in order to do his fair share in 207 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: stopping the border rush. But one short story here, LAPD. 208 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: One of their officers broke his leg at the Metro 209 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: station in North Hollywood. 210 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: What happened. 211 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this happened last Thursday night at the end 212 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: of the route on this particular train. Officers go through 213 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: and do this cursory search, and they go through and 214 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: clear everybody out, and they come on this come upon 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: this homeless guy and they say. 216 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: Hey, you got to get out of here. 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: To's the end of the line. So I guess the 218 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: homeless guy gets out. Well, officers are going down another 219 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: area opposite end. They look back and they see the 220 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: homeless guy coming back through the turnstile and going back 221 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: on the train car. Because that was one of the 222 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: biggest problems for a long time is at the end 223 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: of the line, these homeless people they camp out in 224 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: these cars overnight and they weren't being checked. So there 225 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: was a more aggressive approach by Sheriff's Apartment, Long Beach, 226 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: PD and LAPD the three basically the three security agencies 227 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: for Metro to do these nightly checks at the end 228 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of the route. Well, when officers approached this guy, he 229 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: wasn't having it. He's like no, and they got into 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: this exchange. One thing led to another. They wanted to 231 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: take him into custody. He didn't want to go, so 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: they got into sort of a hand to hand situation 233 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: and the group went down and when they did, the 234 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: guy fell on the laped officer's leg and hyper extended it. 235 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally popped it backwards. Oh oh that hurts. 236 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So we have a broken bone here. Because 237 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: it was riginally reported as a broken leg. Yeah, yeah, 238 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: broke his bone too. 239 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: Well. 240 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it broke the bone. I was 241 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: just told it hyper extended. Yeah yeah, presumably if nothing else. 242 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: The joints in bad shape. Yeah, but they they said, 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: you know that this obviously the guy's an extremely excruciating pain. 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Not sure how long he's going to be out, if 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to go back to full duty. 246 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: But you recall it was what last summer, I think 247 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: was towards the end of last summer when another lap 248 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: THE officer was attacked on a metro train when his 249 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: finger got bitten off. 250 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that. 251 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been kind of a bad time for 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: don't they haven't. I mean, why did it end up 253 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: being a fight? They didn't have a because the guy 254 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to go. I mean, And what they do is, 255 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing, the homeless training that they get, 256 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: the mentally challenged training. 257 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: That officers get through, the LAPD they go through. 258 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: I think now, I think it's up to forty hours 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: of training each officer, and it's about de escalating the situation. 260 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: That's what they want to do first and foremost, de escalate, 261 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: get him to leave but at some point if they're 262 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: not leaving, and they're not leaving, and they're not leaving, Hey. 263 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Ca, he'spent all night there. 264 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: You got to you gotta get him off the train 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: because they got to clean the train. That was the 266 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: whole idea about doing the check, because they got to 267 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: go through and basically clean up all the poop in 268 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the ue. I got almost guy left behind. They got 269 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: to basically hose down the train. 270 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: So this scotch. 271 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: But they were trying to get the guy off of there, 272 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: and he was refusing lawful commands and he wasn't paying attention, 273 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: and he got it. He decided he wanted to get 274 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: into a fight instead. All right, Mexican President. So you know, 275 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot has been made about this sort of seeking asylum, 276 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: and you know that the international law was seeking asylum 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: is that you you're supposed to go to the nearest 278 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: country of your home country to seek asylum. And this 279 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: has been a big problem for the last few years, 280 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: is that migrants who come from Central and South America 281 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: are going through Mexico up to the United States, but 282 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: per international guidelines, they're supposed to stop in Mexico and 283 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: seek asylum and Mexico is supposed to stop them, but 284 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: Mexico has basically been allowing free passage through the country. 285 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: And finally, you know, the Biden administration is like, you're 286 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: going to have to do something here. We can't keep 287 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: accommodating all this. So on Friday, President Lopez over the 288 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: door called on the US to approve a plan. Now, 289 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: he's willing to do this, He's willing to stifle the 290 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: migration in Mexico as long as the United States now 291 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: would spend twenty billion dollars to Latin American and Caribbean countries. 292 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Give them twenty billion dollars to spend the US blockade 293 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: of Cuba, remove all sanctions against Venezuela, and grant at 294 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: least ten million Hispanics living in the US the right 295 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: to remain and work legally. Well, this is extortion, is 296 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: what it is. Cuba whaler or communist countries. There's a 297 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: reason there's sanctions and blockades around them. So if we're 298 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: not friends and their friends aren't our friends. So if 299 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: we want cooperation with Mexico, ten million, ten million, basically 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: getting amnesty, yeah, and twenty billion in cash to Latin 301 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: American and Caribbean countries. Where's you know how much money 302 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: the US government has given a lot of these countries. 303 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: It all goes to the leaders, and the leaders run 304 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: off with it. It never gets to the people. This 305 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: is a ransom note that he wrote. Good lord, that's 306 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of nerves. 307 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: I thought you'd like that. 308 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Thanks, But gee, yeah, but the Biden administration, they're stupid enough. 309 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: To meet his terms. 310 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: Well, I just was made aware of this a little 311 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: while ago, So I'm taking a look at it and 312 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: see what we come from. 313 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: If you get any more, you got it. 314 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: Thanks John. When we come back this Alaska air story 315 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: over the weekend, hold on right, Okay, we'll get to 316 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the Alaska story about twenty minutes. But there were a 317 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: slew of Jewish run businesses that were vandalized in the valley, 318 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have the owners of one of those businesses, 319 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: the Trophy business, coming up next, and then we're gonna 320 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: get into the crazy Alaska story. 321 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: It's the John Cobelt Show. 322 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI. A 323 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: six forty. 324 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Coming up in just a few minutes. This Alaska air 325 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: story is wild. That chunk of the plane wall that 326 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: went that just blew off. There's a flight going from 327 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Portland to Ontario and just a few minutes into the flight, 328 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: they're about sixteen thousand feet. You heard the story, right, 329 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: piece of a wall goes flying out and some kid 330 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: lost his shirt, like his shirt got sucked off his body. 331 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: A couple of cell phones got sucked out of there. 332 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: We'll get into what exactly happened because the story changed, 333 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: of course, from the early reports. Now we're going to 334 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: be talking. We're gonna talk with Mark Lawrence here. Mark 335 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Lawrence runs a trophy business in Woodland Hills. He's Jewish, 336 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: and a number of Jewish owned businesses in Woodland Hills 337 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: were vandalized. It's this is on Victory Boulevard in the 338 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: two twenty nine hundred block. Saturday morning. Let's let's talk 339 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: to Mark and see what happened. Mark, How are you good? 340 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: How are you? 341 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm fine? So this is Saturday morning. Did you how'd 342 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you find out about what happened to your business? 343 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: I got a call about sevent am from a neighbor 344 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: that my window had been broken. I rushed down to 345 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: the store and opened up and found obviously the windows 346 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: broken and everything on the front displays are you know, 347 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: strewn about, and there's a rock in the middle of 348 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: the middle of the showroom that says pay up, pay up, 349 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: pay up? 350 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: Was anything stolen? 351 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: Nothing was stolen. At first I thought that, you know, 352 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: somebody thought I owed him money. You know, I don't 353 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: know home's supposed to pay up. And then I come 354 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: to find you know, I look around the rest of 355 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: the complex. There's about eight stores in the complex, and 356 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: there's another store with a broken window, and it's an 357 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: Israeli company that has just moved in recently. It's called 358 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: illum La and they saw architectural aluminum products and their 359 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: window was broken as well, and so they're the only there. 360 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: I'm the Jewish tenant in the in the building and 361 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: they're a Jewish tenant of building. Everybody else is not. 362 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: How would they How did they know you're Jewish? But 363 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: just by looking at the. 364 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: Store, we we both have manoras on the doors. 365 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: Oh I see, was there any other business? 366 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: No? 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: Is A is a a small decorative piece you put 368 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: on your on your door for me, massus, I'm sorry, 369 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm a little that's missus. It's just you know, a 370 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: piece that goes on. 371 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: The uh news story says there's another business, a dance studio. 372 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: The studio there around the corner. I don't know if 373 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: they're Jewish. Uh. There's a Jewish bakery next block down. 374 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: Uh there there, they have a manura on their door. 375 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: They're all all their windows were broken. We only had 376 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: two windows, but each had one window each broken. But 377 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: the bakery down the street has like three or four 378 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: windows broken. 379 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: Have you encountered this kind of sentiment before. No. 380 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, you know, I've had that 381 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: on the on the door for years and nobody ever 382 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: makes a comment about it. Lately, there's been more comments 383 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: people asking you know, how you Jewish? And you know, uh, 384 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: just in the last maybe the last you know, four 385 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: or five months. 386 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: Do they mean that in a menacing way or a 387 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: sympathetic way? 388 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: No, No, I did. We did have one guy came 389 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: in like about maybe about a month ago and just 390 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, ask my wife, but you guys Jewish? And 391 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: she's she said yes, And the guy turned around and 392 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: walked out. I don't know whether that was that man 393 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: through anything, but I mean then and then yesterday yesterday, 394 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: so that that was on Saturday yesterday. Uh. Four and 395 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: more businesses were hit. There's a Jewish style deli across 396 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: the street called Wyler's. They they had their window broken. 397 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: This yeah, this is all within two blocks. Uh. There's 398 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: a place called Fluky's, which was a it's kind of 399 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: like a hot dog hamburger place. Their windows were broken 400 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: their Jewish as well. And uh the then there's a 401 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: flooring place and another small restaurant. And I don't know 402 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: whether or not they're Jewish or not. 403 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, so are the police on. 404 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: The police are on it. They've been out several times. Uh. 405 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: I have really good video of the guy and that 406 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 3: he didn't even bother covering his face up. You can 407 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: just see him wind up and throw the throw the rock. 408 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: And each of each of the places, all the all 409 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: the rocks all say the same thing. They say pay 410 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: up or glory. So some of the rocks say glory, 411 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: some of the rocks say pay up. 412 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Pay up? 413 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 3: Who knows what that means? Who knows? 414 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: So? So, I mean it's just made you and the 415 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: other shop owners nervous. 416 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. I I have fairly confident they'll catch 417 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: the guy because he's done it three days in a row. 418 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: So that so that was Saturday, Sunday, he broke the 419 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: windows of a tire store, a paint store, a couple 420 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: other stores. 421 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: On the paying guys all Jewish. 422 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 3: Sure, it's unknown. He broke the window in and out Burger. 423 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: So I don't think they're Jewish. 424 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: No, so, but those Christian Bible phrases other cups, no, 425 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: not on the bottom. 426 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and about the cups. But in the in the beginning, 427 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: we were we you know, we were certain since there 428 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: were like, you know, four businesses and four were Jewish, 429 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: we were certain it was Jewish. Now at this point, 430 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: maybe he's widening his uh horizons. 431 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Mark, Well, thanks for coming on. I 432 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: hope they get this guy there. 433 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 3: They will, they will for three days and three days 434 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: in a row. He'll probably do it again tonight. 435 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: And what's the name of your trophy shop. 436 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: It's a trophy Man. 437 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Trophy Man okay in Woodland Hills. 438 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: On Victory Book Trophyman dot com. 439 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, very good, thank you for coming on. Thank 440 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: you appreciate it. 441 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: It's Mark Lawrence. 442 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 3: Now. 443 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: Also anti Israel protesters, they vandalized the the Veteran Cemetery 444 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: on Wilshire Boulevard. That that huge one that you can 445 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: see from the four or five freeway. Uh, they've got 446 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: soldiers there from World War One, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, 447 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: and and all the other wars. And there was a 448 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: vandalism in that cemetery as well. So this is in fact, 449 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a photo it says Regaza Free Gaza 450 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: into Fada, which was that Palestinian revolt some years ago. 451 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: At the Los Angeles National Cemetery, Israel said that they're 452 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: going to a new phase of the war that they're 453 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: they're they're winding down or moving there, moving to another 454 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: part of Gaza because they think they have effectively dismantled 455 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: the Hamas military operation on the northern end of Gaza 456 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: that they I guess they've run out of things to 457 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: bomb there. So see what happens. All right, we come back. 458 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: I want to get into this this airline story Alaska 459 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: air where a piece of the wall blew out, and 460 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: you may wonder how we're going to explain it. It 461 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: blew out and it started sucking things inside the aircraft. 462 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: All the oxygen masks dropped, and it's kind of a 463 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: scary story, but really fascinating. They weren't that high in 464 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: the air. The plane had only been flying a little bit, 465 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: so there was a lot of luck there. 466 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: But when you hear. 467 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: When you hear the history of this plane and what 468 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Alaska Air knew about the plane and what they decided 469 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: to do anyway, you're going to be floured, absolutely stunned. 470 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: The today's chapter of the story was more stunning than 471 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: the original incident. 472 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI Am 473 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: six forty. 474 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: On the radio till four o'clock and then after four 475 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: o'clock John Cobelts Show on demand on the iHeart Radio 476 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: app as well Moistline for Friday call eight seven seven 477 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: Moist eighty six, eight seven seven moist eighty six. 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Earlier 482 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: in the hour, Steve talking about a couple of stories. 483 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: One was the. 484 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: Security guards they have it at the ten Freeway now 485 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: at the spot where the fire was set that nearly 486 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: burned down the freeway and caused it to collapse some 487 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: interesting stuff and you can go see that on Instagram. 488 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: All right, the Alaska Airlines flight. All right, listen to this. 489 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: So people are lifting off, and obviously a lot of 490 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Californians because the plane was going from Portland to Ontario 491 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: and the Inland Empire. And then a few minutes into 492 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: the flight, they're only had about sixteen thousand feet. There's 493 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: a big boom and a big whoosh and all the 494 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: oxygen masks drop and it turns out a four foot 495 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: panel from the side wall. 496 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: The plane just blew out and you could. 497 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: See the sky and you can see the lights down below, 498 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: and they were headed away from Portland over the ocean. 499 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: The pilot is frantically radioing the Portland Airport saying, we're 500 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: gonna come back. 501 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: We've got an emergency. One boy. 502 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Now, the seat right next to the big gash in 503 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: the fuselage was empty. Otherwise maybe that person would have 504 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: gotten sucked out. But everybody had their seat belts on, 505 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: so nobody got blown through the hole. Although one teenager 506 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: had his shirt sucked off his body. Apparently his upper 507 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: body was all red, I guess from the because the 508 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: shirt was ripped off so ferociously by the deep pressurization 509 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: and that they are there. They don't know for sure 510 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: exactly what happened that. I think it had to do 511 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: with where the hole was. Could be an emergency exit 512 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: on this plane. They built a doorway for an emergency exit. However, 513 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the way Alaska Air decided to configure the seats, they 514 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: didn't want or need an emergency door there. So they 515 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: had it plugged up. And this is a four foot 516 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: plug and somebody screwed something up because it was the 517 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: plug that blew out of the fuselage, and they found 518 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: it in somebody's backyard in Portland. A teacher, a teacher 519 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: named Bob, found the door the plug. They said, everybody 520 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: in the plane was really quiet. There wasn't any screaming 521 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: because they were all sucking on oxygen so they couldn't speak. 522 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: This is the part that's crazy is that this plane 523 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: just got certified in November. It just had been made 524 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: out of bowing out of their factory. It had flown 525 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: less than one hundred and fifty times. Don't know the 526 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: exact number, but it three times. The pressure light had 527 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: gone on in the cockpit, which means there was a 528 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: pressurization problem somewhere, but They didn't know if it was 529 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: the light malfunctioning or something else, so they. 530 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Didn't fix it. They just made a note of it. 531 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: After it happened a few times, they decided, all right, 532 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: we'll restrict the plane. They can't fly over water on 533 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: an international flight because they wanted to make sure that 534 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: if an emergency resulted, the plane would be able to land. 535 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: So they wanted the plane to only fly over land 536 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: where there were airports that they could do in emergency landing. 537 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, if you think there's something so wrong 538 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: with your plane that you don't want to fly over water, 539 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: well why would you fly over land? Because a pressurization 540 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: situation could do exactly what happened, and then people get 541 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: sucked out over land. That's not any better than being 542 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: sucked out over water. 543 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: What kind of a nutty policy is that? Who made 544 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: that decision? 545 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: Pressure light goes off several times, Either fix the light 546 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: or do an investigation and see what happens. Now, let's 547 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: play cut number two here, and this is I witness 548 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: footage from inside the plane. You'll get an idea what 549 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: people were going through. 550 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: This. We're at the end of the brand. 551 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: I heard the play. 552 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: Here there was no one seated, There was no one 553 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: seated near the wind. 554 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just a I said that. 555 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: I guess that's the sucking sound there. 556 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: I thought we were through. 557 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: Hey, John, you know that the breaking news is that 558 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 5: United Airlines says inspectors have found loose bolts on a 559 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 5: bunch of these planes. 560 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: Oh I had heard that. 561 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 5: No, yes, yes, just came through great, Yes, so they 562 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: needed additional tightening. 563 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: Is it? This is the seven thirty seven Max nine jets? 564 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Are these are the same jets that were falling out 565 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: of the sky a few years ago? 566 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: That was not That was the seven thirty seven Max. 567 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: But not nine nine. Those are the Max eight or 568 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: seven I can't remember. Now you're gonna have to google 569 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: that they were. 570 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Max nine is a bigger version of the 571 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Max eight that was falling out of the sky a 572 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: few years ago. Remember there's two planes overseas three hundred 573 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: and forty six people died. That's the Max eight. The 574 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: larger version is the Max nine. But these are the 575 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: next generation planes that Boeing made, and all the airlines 576 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: by these. 577 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: I I'm just. 578 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: So there's something in the manufacturing process, obviously some I mean, 579 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: so now they're gonna they're they're grounding hundreds of planes, 580 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: they're canceling hundreds of flights. 581 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: I just it's an installation problem, that's what United is saying. 582 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so yeah you think, wow. 583 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: Well but it's not. But it's not a manufacturing right, 584 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 5: it's it's the way that they're put in. 585 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Right, all right, So the part is manufactured properly, right, 586 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: just wasn't installed exactly. 587 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: So it's a manufacturing problem. No, it's a huge manufacturing airplane. 588 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean. It's two components of 589 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: the same process. Yeah, all right, we gotta we're gonna 590 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: take a break. We come back. Oh we're gonna have 591 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: Don Wagner on. When we left you on Friday, we 592 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: have this story out of Orange County. Local state senator 593 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: had written a piece saying that the Orange County Animal 594 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: Shelter is a complete disaster, a lot of animals are suffering, 595 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: give you a rundown, or what she said. And after 596 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: we were done talking with her, it's like, well, it's 597 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,959 Speaker 1: the Orange County supervisors are the ones in charge of 598 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: the animal shelter agency, So how could. 599 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: This be going on? 600 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: And looks like it's been going on for quite some time, 601 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: and why hasn't anybody else talked about this? So we're 602 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: going to talk to Don Wagner. He's one of the 603 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Orange County supervisors who, as I understand, they have the 604 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: ultimate oversight over this agency that is running a shelter 605 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: that is being described as really like a concentration camp 606 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: for the pets. Debra Mark has the news live in 607 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 608 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear 609 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: the show live on KFI AM six forty from one 610 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, 611 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.