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We're live in Los Angeles, wherever you may be, 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: however you may be listening or watching, whatever the platform. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. Stories breaking everywhere. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: We will have all of them. You know, a lot 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: of times you'll hear people say, well, you know these 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: teams they I mean, they're just they don't know how 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: to draft quarterbacks. Twelve of the fourteen playoff quarterbacks our 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks, and the best one left is Josh Allen. 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: That's why, as I peruse the playoff matchups this weekend, 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: one team cannot lose until maybe they get to a 20 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: super Bowl. That's Buffalo. Here's the bad news. Last eight 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: road playoff games, Buffalo is zero to eight, not all 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: of those on Sean McDermott all the playoff games this weekend. 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Only one team is not allowed to lose Buffalo or 24 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: the domino effect starts. Kevin Stefanski don't take a job yet, 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: and the excuse for Buffalo has been well, there's Patrick 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Joe Burrow neither made the playoffs. It's bad 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: enough that you lost your division to Drake May and 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, and it was Rabel's first year taking over 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: a team that is still in my opinion, in a rebuild, 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: you can't then lose the AFC to potentially Liam Cohen 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: taking over the wobbly Jacksonville Jaguars. 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: And Sean McDermott can coach. 33 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: He has a higher winning percentage, believe it or not, 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: than Belichick and Andy Reid. 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott can coach. 36 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: But the downside to having a generational quarterback talent like 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: an l Way or a Peyton Manning or a Josh 38 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Allen is the new standard is January. That's the new standard. 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: So there's a saying great power comes with great responsibility 40 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Great quarterbacks create great responsibility. It is 41 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's responsibility to be completely buttoned up and win 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: a road playoff game over a team, frankly Jacksonville that 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: is better than you this year. I was looking this 44 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: morning at the most consecutive seasons of ten plus wins 45 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: NFL all time. The Bills are now fifth, and they're 46 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: the only team that has not reached a super Bowl 47 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: in that seven year stretch. Not only is every other 48 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: team when they have these stretches been to a super Bowl. 49 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: Six of the seven have won a super Bowl. Buffalo 50 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: hasn't reached it. And Josh Allen leads the NFL in 51 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: yards in playoff history. Think about that, most yards in 52 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: playoff history. It is averaging, not total averaging? Is Josh 53 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Allen never been to a Super Bowl? So losing to 54 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Burrow, okay, that's a reason. You can't lose 55 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to Bonnicks. You can't lose to Drake May, you can't 56 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: lose to Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence. 57 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: You can't. Doesn't matter. You can't. 58 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Twelve of fourteen playoff teams have first round quarterbacks. You 59 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: have the best one. Here's Sean McDermott on the Weekend Ahead. 60 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: You don't take them for granted. 61 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 4: Let's just start there. But at the same time, the 62 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: experiences I've been here, we've been here, and so that 63 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: comes with I guess it brings some. 64 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: Level of. 65 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: Called seasoning, and you would hope poise and composure as 66 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: we prepare this week and go through our process. 67 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: Like anything else, you learn from experience. 68 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I had mentioned there's a lot of coaching openings. 69 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: J MAC will have more of those in twelve to 70 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. I said this yesterday. And I have a 71 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: little company, and I don't like the fire people. I 72 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: really don't. I think there's a spot almost always somewhere 73 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: in a company for people. 74 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: But you can always tell. 75 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I was told this years and years and years ago 76 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: by a boss I had, like thirty years ago. He said, 77 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: you can always tell if you made a mistake when 78 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: you let somebody go, based on how the job market reacts. 79 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: So Cleveland fires Kevin Stefanski, in my opinion, mistake. According 80 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: to Adam Schefter, the Falcons, Giants, and Titans top of 81 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: their list. Yeah, Cleveland just screwed up again. Can't get 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: the right quarterback, fire the wrong coach. So five years 83 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: in a row I have made a pick. I call 84 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: it a double yr win total team and if not double, 85 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: the most improved team Vikings in twenty twenty two. I 86 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: got that right rams the year after a Washington in 87 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Denver a couple of years ago. This year I had 88 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: New England double your win total. Most improved team would 89 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: be Seattle. So I'm a little bit of a heater. 90 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Not only should Stefanski be the leading candidate. If the 91 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Bills lose, the team I would pick next year double 92 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: your win total would be the New York Giants. If 93 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski is hired. That's how highly I think of him. 94 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: So I've gotten it right four or five years and 95 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: teams in a row. The Giants with Kevin Stefanski would 96 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: have a last play schedule, Jackson Dart Scataboo neighbors Raturns, 97 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas good left tackle again, last play schedule, number 98 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: five pick in the draft. They can manipulate and get 99 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: more picks. This is an absolute layup. Nothing against Mike Kofka, 100 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: the interim guy, but you know, I don't like. I 101 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: don't like when teams fire a coach. The interim guy 102 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: comes in and you're like, wow, that looked pretty good. 103 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: It's the substitute teacher. 104 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Everybody loves the substitute teacher, right, They're more chill than 105 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: the previous teacher, more chill than the previous coach, not 106 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: as harsh. Yeah, Mike kaff is not the answer. Someday, 107 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the space. And people can say, well, Colin, 108 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: you thought Pete Carroll was gonna work in Las Vegas. Yeah, 109 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I thought Pete Carroll was a solid choice. It should 110 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: be noted I picked the Raiders to finish fourth with 111 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. I said, they'll still be a last place team, 112 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: but they need like guidance and maturity and stop with 113 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the interim stuff and just go hire a guy that's 114 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: one big Pete Carroll. It didn't work. It's a man overboard, 115 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: but I still picked him for fourth. The New York 116 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: Giants have several key components, Like you know, Jackson darts 117 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: in the blue tent way more than I like. But 118 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: when you have a number one receiver, a number one 119 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: left tackle, a number one back, a number one quarterback, 120 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: an excellent pass rusher, the number five picks, that's pretty solid. 121 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: That's pretty solid. 122 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you go look at the teams at the 123 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: top of the draft outside of the team that gets 124 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Mendoza Giants pretty interesting. Here's Joe Shane on their coaching 125 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: vacancy right now in New York. 126 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 5: Each of those franchises brought in new head coaches and 127 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 5: were able to turn it around rather quickly. And you 128 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: know Drake Mayson, the MVP, you know race right now. 129 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: And you know Caleb Williams. We obviously played against him 130 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: and has has had a really good year in playing 131 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: at a high level. So, yeah, that's that's certainly an 132 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 5: opportunity that you look at those franchises and how they 133 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 5: put it together in the quick turnaround and you know 134 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: an ideal world. Yeah, that would be from the people 135 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: I've talked to, you know the consensus, there are a 136 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: lot of potential head coaching candidates that are excited about 137 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: the opportunity here because of Jackson Dart. 138 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty to forty fifty percent of first round quarterbacks 139 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: that are drafted don't become great franchise quarterbacks. I don't 140 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: know what Jackson Dart's going to become, but no reasonable 141 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: person would deny it's encouraging if he can stay out 142 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: of the blue tent. The Giants were swimming in chaos. 143 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: He was kind of encouraging Skataboo neighbors Andrew Thomas, Jackson, 144 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: Dart Abdul Carter. It's kind of encouraging Kevin Stefanski takes 145 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: that job. That is a double your win total team, 146 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: not saying it to a great team. They're not going 147 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: to turn into New England this year, but they'd be 148 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: a really good team. J Maack, we got all sorts 149 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: of stuff happening, some of it not surprising, one move 150 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: very surprising. And this is such a great time that 151 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: you're starting Thursday. 152 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 6: Do you want to just tell them what happened in 153 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: the list? 154 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: So Cliff Kingsbury is now mutually decided he does not 155 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: get along with the GM. Adam Peters I've been told, yeah, 156 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily see eyd eye with a GM. And 157 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: now dan Quinn, this is the downside to hiring a 158 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: defensive coach. And I like dan Quinn. I thought it 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: was a solid hire. Or now you lose your offensive 160 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: coordinator and here's Jayden Daniels all banged up, going, who's 161 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: my coach? 162 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 7: By the way, also fire their defensive coordinators, so both 163 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 7: coordinators gone. That usually means, hey, head coach, delivered this 164 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 7: season or you're gone. I try not good for Jayden Daniels. 165 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: So that's that's what we've always said, hire an offensive coach. 166 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Now there are exceptions. Demiko Ryans came highly touted. Jesse 167 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Minter with the Chargers. Everybody loves Mike McDaniel was thought 168 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: of as the Sean McVay of defense. There are great 169 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: defensive coaches. But even if you nail that guy, he 170 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: loses his offensive coordinator every couple of years. So you, 171 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean Dan Campbell did a great job this year. 172 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator didn't work because as well, he had the 173 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: takeover offensive play calling and it disrupted the flow of 174 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: the team. 175 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 6: They'll probably be a line out the door for this job, right. 176 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 7: You want to get in coaching Jayden Daniels because he's 177 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 7: such a superstar. I wonder where does Cliff Kingsbury land. 178 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 7: You think he wants to maybe spend the fall in 179 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 7: New York. I'll just tell I'll tell you. I have 180 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 7: this as well sourced as I can. I love Cliff. 181 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 7: He's not an NFL head coach. No, No, as eoc 182 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 7: If we get Dante Moore in New York as a quarterback. 183 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: Would that excite Cliff Kingsbury living in New York? 184 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Coaching done King for the Jets does not excite anybody. 185 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's right now, it's the worst situation. 186 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: In the league. It's up there. 187 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: Let me say what you want about Tennessee. They have 189 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: cam Ward. 190 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: Well, the readers are in trouble right now. 191 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Well, but they get Mendoza. Yes, yeah, I mean everybody 192 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: Tennessee has cam Ward. Giants have Jackson Dart. Think what 193 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: you want. Raiders are getting Mendoza. I mean, you can 194 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: say what you want about the Falcons. But Kirk played 195 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: well at the end. They still have Penix. They're going 196 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: to hire an offensive guy, perhaps Stefanski. Jets are at 197 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: the bottom right now. 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It's Tuesday, Thursday night they start 216 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: playing again, and the SEC is no longer it's it's 217 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: not disputable. Their bull record this year is four and nine. 218 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: The SEC is no longer the number one conference. In fact, 219 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: of those four wins, only two or non SEC teams. 220 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: They beat themselves, and then they beat Tulane, who fired 221 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: their or lost their coach in Michigan, which has been 222 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: enough free fall for the last eight weeks until they 223 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: hired Kyle Whittingham. Those are your two wings, Tulane and Michigan. 224 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: So if Ole Miss lose this to Miami on Thursday, 225 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: thurstraight year, no SEC team in the championship game, they're 226 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: not even getting there. This year National Letter of Recruiting Day, 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: which was always an SEC parade for the top five teams, 228 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: non SEC teams, and they're richer schools Notre Dame, Oregon, USC, 229 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. So the big ten plus Notre Dame 230 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: have a lot more money. A great example of this 231 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: is Bama's number one booster is Bear Bryant's son. Oregon 232 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: has Phil Knight, founder of Nike. Indiana's got Mark Cuban, 233 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: who's among three huge boosters for the Hoosiers. So the 234 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: SEC always had a slogan it just means more. Passion 235 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: ruled the sport. Big problem though, now going forward, the 236 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: new slogan in college football is it just costs more. 237 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: And that is the reality. 238 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm reading a story this morning, well, is money making 239 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: over college football? Yeah, it was always leading college football. 240 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: There was the facility's mad rush paying kids in the 241 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: South through the churches. And now it all comes through 242 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the front door, as a orderon said, not the back door. 243 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: All four quarterbacks left in the playoff transfers. And here's 244 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: something that's fascinating. The number one SEC team on the 245 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: rise is Vanderbilt, the number one academic school, which has 246 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: the richest group on average of graduates. Academics do matter, 247 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: So it's very interesting when people talk about oh which 248 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: is a better conference. There's no arguing. Right now, they 249 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: are four and nine in bowl games. The only two 250 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: wins against non SEC teams were tu Lane that lost 251 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to coach and Michigan did two a different way. 252 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: That's it. 253 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: It just means more, nah, it just that's the reality. 254 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: College football now is forty to fifty percent pro football. 255 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: By the way, attendants up ratings up. It was always 256 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: sort of a provincial, tribal wonky sport with no leadership. 257 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: Now it kind of looks like the NFL playoffs and 258 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: the numbers prove people are into it. SEC super expensive 259 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: conference this point forward. That's how you win it. Keep 260 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: your eye on Bandy Jmack with the news. 261 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd 262 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: line news. 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 6: All right, Colin, Let's go back to the NFL. 264 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys fired their DC Matt Eberflus. Not a huge surprise. 265 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 7: I mean their defensive dumpster fire fresh season. You know, 266 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 7: you trade Michael Parsons and then you allow twenty nine 267 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 7: points per game, worse than the league. They were thirty 268 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: first in points allowed and allowed three hundred and seventy 269 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 7: six yards per game. Colin, it was abysmal all around. 270 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 7: I don't really know where they go from here. 271 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 6: They got a lot of. 272 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 7: Work to do on the back end of the defense. Well, 273 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 7: Ravon Diggs, by the way, who they refuse to play, goes. 274 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 6: To Green Bay, has a pretty good week eighteen. 275 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Well in a meanless game. Cincinnati is a great example. 276 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: You could have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and t Higgins. 277 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: You can't score your way to the playoffs. You're seeing 278 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: in college football Oregon, Miami and Indiana play real defense. 279 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Oh Miss, doesn't you have to play? I mean the 280 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: downfall the SEC is that Baman Georgia don't have dominating 281 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: defenses anymore. It's not that they don't score points. So 282 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Cincinnati proves that you can have a great offense, you 283 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: have to make some stops. In fact, that's what I 284 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: think both of us agree will be. The downs fall 285 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: of Chicago is that Bears give up big plays. They're 286 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: better defensively at home. But yeah, largely so. I think 287 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: take Cincinnati as an example. Your first two picks should 288 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: probably be defensive players, and you should probably let Pickens 289 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: go and go buy another. I mean, you got Quentin Williams, 290 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, draft an edge, get a safety, Caleb Downs 291 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: or a corner and then you'll probably go after to 292 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: spend some money somewhere in that secondary as well. 293 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: It's a lean secondary. 294 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 7: Caleb Downs would be a home run. I don't think 295 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 7: he's going to be there when they're drafting. 296 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: I mean, hell, the. 297 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 7: Chiefs could be interested in Caleb Downs. So really rough 298 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 7: one for the Cowboys defenses here all right? Sticking in 299 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 7: the NFC, he's the big news. The Commanders dumped both 300 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 7: of their coordinators, Joe with the DC gone, and we're 301 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: calling it a parting of ways with Kingsbury and dan Quinn. 302 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 7: Now my guess is something's going to come out on 303 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: this column. This feels awkward, right, Like, why would you 304 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 7: move off Kingsbury? You were in the NFC Championship a 305 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 7: year ago with the healthy Jayden and Daniels. Kingsbury was 306 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 7: amazing and now you're just moving on from him. What 307 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 7: you get a whiff that there's anything going on here? 308 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: Well, they hired a defensive coach who had been fired 309 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, dan Quinn. 310 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: We thought it. We both thought it was a good 311 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: B plus higher. 312 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: Because we both love the idea of stabilizing the organization. 313 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: But if you're asking me what I would have ideally 314 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: done is hire an offensive coach. By the way, the 315 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Bears Caleb Williams inherited a defensive coach, they have now 316 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: permitted to do an offensive coach. Bo Nicks offensive coach 317 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: Drake May has a defensive coach, but he has a 318 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: probably the best coordinator in the sport. Josh McDaniels, right, 319 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I think dan Quinn's on the clock. So interesting, What 320 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: great coordinator is going to take that job in Washington? 321 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: Why would I take the commander's job? Well, I know 322 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: that if Quinn doesn't win, you get I'm not getting 323 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: the job as a coordinator. 324 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: I think you're trapped. 325 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: I think this puts the pressure on dan Quinn and 326 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: what guy with options is choosing this job and that 327 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: Now that. 328 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 6: Would be year three with. 329 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 7: Jayden and it's this year, next year's bad. Then you 330 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 7: get a new coach year four, and then the rookie 331 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 7: deal is wasted. Colin, what if there's a scenario that 332 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 7: Kingsbury is going to be a head coach? There are 333 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 7: six openings. I know you don't think it worked well 334 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 7: in Arizona. He did get them to the playoffs. 335 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray's only trip. 336 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 7: What if the Raiders kicked the tires on Kingsbury because 337 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 7: remember he was in discussions with that. 338 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: The answer is Pete Carroll's last couple of jobs, bad Kingbury. 339 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Kingsbury got fired by his alma mater. He's not a 340 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: head coach. 341 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: I know. 342 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: There are a couple good quarterbacks out there, Dark kim 343 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 7: Ward and Mendoza are on the board. 344 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: The knock on Kingsbury has always been he's not he 345 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: will not hold fairly disruptive players accountable. He's an offensive guy. 346 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: He's a nice guy, but things get loose very quick. 347 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: They did it as alma mater, his alma mater. Again, 348 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: that was like seven years ago, eight ten years ago. 349 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Now we're maybe he needed to be around Quinn to 350 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: see what it's like. It's a round of mature head coach. 351 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: You either have that personality or you don't. You don't 352 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: learn how to be tough. Now, there are tough coaches 353 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: Kaflin who lighten up. But Wade Phillips was always a 354 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: great guy. The knock on him was always he's not 355 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: tough enough. You know, you can go back with tough 356 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: people can lighten up. The tough dad can lighten up 357 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: and chill out. Light, soft, nice, don't get mean, don't 358 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: buy into it. Kingsbury's not going to become uh McVeigh. 359 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: He's not going to become like Shanahan in that building. 360 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: Is not only respected, he's a little faired. He'll move 361 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: off yet maybe Vey is feared. He moved up Von 362 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Miller he I mean Cooper cop like McVeigh in that building. 363 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Players love him, but he moves off guys a year early. 364 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 6: Kingsbury doesn't need to become anyone. 365 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 7: He could just become a slightly different version of himself 366 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 7: and so maybe not crack the whip hardcore. 367 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: I mean that almost makes. 368 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 7: It sound like Mike McDaniel in Miami. He's soft, He's 369 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 7: kind of a Mike. 370 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 6: Can't Kenny. 371 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel made two a Pro Bowl or made the 372 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: playoffs with a GM that was apparently completely over his skis. 373 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm Kingsbury sitting in a meeting with 374 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 7: Tom Brady or whoever, hey man, Kyler Murray's only trip 375 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 7: to the playoffs with me Jaden Daniels I took him 376 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 7: to the NFC Championship in his first year. Like, I 377 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 7: think he's got a decent resume. I'm not totally out 378 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 7: on Kingsbury a head coach in this cycle. I mean, 379 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 7: obviously Stefanski would be ahead of him. 380 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: But you're saying no shot, No, he may get hired. 381 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying no shot. I'm telling you, when you're 382 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: Alma Mater gets rid of you Alma monters don't want 383 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: to get rid of people that went to their own 384 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and then you go to Arizona. And I'm not blaming 385 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: him entirely in Arizona, but the knock was he didn't 386 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: quite hold people accountable. It's not his personal We say 387 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: this whole time. A lot of people are vice presidents, 388 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people are vps. They're not built for 389 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: the boardroom. They're not built to make hard, tough decisions. 390 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't think Kingsbury is. I think Cliff's great guy. 391 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I think he's sharp, I think he's a good OC. 392 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: But why would Adam Peters, the GM who's highly respected, 393 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: why would he butt heads with Cliff Kingsbury. 394 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 7: Why something's going to come out in DCS or Kingsbury 395 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 7: has over. 396 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: The next week or two. Start reading all your I mean, 397 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to make two calls after the show today. 398 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Why didn't Peters and Cliff get along. I mean, Peters 399 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: is considered super sharp. Yeah, they turned it around quickly. 400 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: This year a disaster, but anyways, final story. 401 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 7: Cone Benon Johnson and Caleb Williams. Their big playoff debut 402 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 7: is this weekend. Caleb obviously had a great season with 403 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 7: the Bears, franchise record thirty nine and forty two passing yards. 404 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson is confident in his quarterback. 405 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 9: He's played in a lot of big games over the 406 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 9: course of his life. I think he's he's primed and 407 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 9: he's ready to go. He was built for these moments. 408 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 9: He plays his best when when we need him to. 409 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 9: And so there's really not a whole lot that needs 410 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 9: to be said. He just needs to be him. 411 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So wise guys slash sharps always look at the weather. 412 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: Very interesting the weather for this game up to thirty 413 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: mile hour wind gusts. 414 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: What does that tell you? Take the better run game? 415 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: So where is Chicago vulnerable giving up big plays? Good 416 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: luck throwing it down the field to Christian Watson. So 417 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: run games and throws to tight ends. Colston Loveland, Loveland's 418 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: really come on strong, well, Cole come at Loveland. Caleb's 419 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: strong arm run game. Better offensive line is Chicago. So 420 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: the weather right now is favoring Chicago. Keep the ball 421 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: on the ground, throw to your tight ends underneath stuff 422 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Bears at home. 423 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 7: So Caleb in the first meeting with the Packers one 424 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 7: hundred and eighty six yards passing, not a great game, 425 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 7: had a bad pick, did come on strong late. Second game, 426 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 7: wasn't doing much and then had the big throw in 427 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: overtime to put them over two hundred yards. But two 428 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 7: meetings against the Packers. I this is a tough one 429 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 7: for him. Man, this is the one game I'm afraid 430 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 7: to pick. I just don't have a strong feeling either way. 431 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 7: Gut tells me. Maybe the Packers willin. But I'll be 432 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 7: rooting for your Bears sometimes. I root for your teams, 433 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 7: even though you take dumps on the Jets regularly, I'll 434 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 7: root for your Bears. 435 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 6: I'll root for it, all right. 436 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: Jmack with the news. 437 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that. The 438 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: herd line news. 439 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: So as we get ready to go into college football 440 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: starts Thursday, then Friday, then Saturday through Monday night with 441 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers Texans is just going to be a parade 442 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: of greatness. So I want to establish something as we 443 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: go into the playoffs. So this is hard for the 444 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: radio audience to devour because it's a lot of numbers. 445 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: But PFF has ranked every playoff team in order, past 446 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: blocking O line on the left, run blocking O line 447 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: in the right. Here's the good news. Denver and Buffalo 448 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: have the two best offensive lines in the playoffs. Look 449 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: at the very bottom, the Chargers have the worst pass 450 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: blocking of all these playoff teams thirty first. Only one 451 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: team in the whole league is worst, and they have 452 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: the worst blocking offensive line in the entire league playoff 453 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: teams non playoff teams, So the Chargers would be the 454 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: worst offensive line in the Pro Football The PFF era 455 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: to just win a playoff game, to win and Justin Herbert, 456 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. If they lose to New 457 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: England Colin how good can he be? And how good 458 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: can he be now on a playoff game. If Justin 459 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: Herbert out of college landed in Philly with Howie Roseman, 460 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: they'd be building a bust in Kenton, Ohio. If you 461 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: look at Justin Herbert's career, all of it including the playoffs, 462 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: when he is sacked once or few or he's twenty 463 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: one and six, but even when he's sacked two or 464 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: more times, he's still excellent. Now he's under five hundred, 465 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: but a ninety one passer rating. So there is a difference. 466 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Let's get it all out here. There is a difference 467 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: between not doing something winning a playoff game and being 468 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: the reason you haven't done something. This is an offensive 469 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: line that should immediately disqualify you as a team from 470 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: making the playoffs, and yet Herbert has engineered an eleven 471 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: and six record with the worst run blocking line in 472 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: the league and the second worst pass blocking and of 473 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: the playoff teams, it's not close. The second thing we 474 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: need to establish. The second thing we need to establish 475 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: on those rankings of offensive lines, the Chicago Bears have 476 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: the number six passing on line and the number three 477 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: running on line. So the Bears and Caleb Williams have 478 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: an excellent top four O line in the league, not 479 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: just playoff teams. They have an excellent play designer and 480 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: caller Ben Johnson, excellent weapons, and the better run game 481 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: against Green Bay. So two things this weekend. If Justin 482 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: Herbert loses, I don't want to hear about, well, Colin, 483 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: where the playoff wins. They're an underdog for a reason. 484 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: They have an offensive line that should not sniff the playoffs. 485 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: The factor eleven and six is insane. But if Caleb 486 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: Williams loses, when he's got the coach, the old line, 487 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: the pass blocking, the run blocking, the weapons, that's on Caleb. 488 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: He has got to beat Green Bay at home, facing 489 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: a Packer team without Michael Parsons, no excuses. The pressure's 490 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: on Caleb. You got the home, you actually have weather 491 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: that benefits you. You've got the run game, the old line, 492 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: the play calling, to play design. Herbert is looking up hill. 493 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Here's harball on facing the Patriots, excited for. 494 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 9: The game, excited, you know, for the opportunity alter competitive season. 495 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: This is a this is this is that time, you know, And. 496 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of that. 497 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: Put up a shut up time for the record. 498 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: Herbert, justin Herbert led the Chargers in rushing seven times 499 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: this year. That is not what they want in Los Angeles. 500 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: That's why I like the Patriots in this matchup. Heard 501 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: hierarchy our last regular season. Heard hierarchy of the year 502 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Joel Klatts around the corner. College football playoffs start Thursday. 503 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: It's the Hurd. 504 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 505 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non a em Pacific. 506 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: By the way, this news that is coming out, Todd 507 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: mcshae advised Dante more the Oregon quarterback, regardless of how 508 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: he is playing, that Mendoz is going to be the 509 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: number one pick out of Indiana. Todd McShay said, avoid 510 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: the Jets, do not go to the NFL. Stay at 511 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: college now. Dante Morre at Oregon is going to make 512 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: four million dollars probably around that ballpark. That is what 513 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks are going for Texas. Texas signed a 514 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: really talented quarterback who I think it's good enough to 515 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: play now in the NFL for about four or five 516 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: million bucks. So it's great for college football because you 517 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: know football is as good as quarterback play. So it's 518 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: great for college football. You're going to keep guys in 519 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: college another year at the most important position. It's also 520 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: great for these kids who can get another thirteen to 521 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: fifteen college starts that can't hurt. It's also good for 522 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the secondary quarterback market in the NFL. Like Malik Willis 523 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: is going to eat and mac Jones and Murray and 524 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. It's great for those guys, it's not good 525 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: for poorly run organizations because I and I would strongly 526 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: still listen to your agent. Agents want to get paid. 527 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: All you college guys, when you get agents, all agents 528 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: want they want to get paid. They don't really care 529 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: what's best for you. They want money. And the bottom 530 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: line here is Aaron glennon the Jets is a is 531 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: a hazmat spill. They don't what do they offer? Strong ownership, 532 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: proven coach, great old line, lots of weapons. I mean 533 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson I think remains the number one Jets receiver. 534 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he's got a catch since Week six. 535 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean it is so to me Oregon for another 536 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: fifteen games. Dan Lanning's a great recruiter. Stay at Oregon, 537 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: win a bunch of games with that. Joel Klatt joins 538 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: us live as we get ready for the game starting 539 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: a Thursday. Mimi, ole Miss, you know I got to 540 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: tell you there are and I've been saying this about 541 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: callllege basketball. College basketball had about a twenty year stretch 542 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: where it was unwatchable because guys were going to Europe. 543 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: It was one and done, and the European players weren't 544 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: coming over. Then the NIL came and suddenly now the 545 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: American universities go buy fifteen Europeans. Europeans can't keep. I 546 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: mean like Spaniards. Now they'll leave a Spanish league. They'll 547 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: come over here and go play for Illinois. And then 548 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: guys like Zach Edy, who are really good players, say 549 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stant Purdue one more year. So college basketball 550 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: has been fortified with about twenty to twenty five to 551 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: thirty kids that instead of playing and you know, it 552 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: could be Israel, it could be Overseas, Lithuania, could be Japan, 553 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: it could be wherever there's come back to college and 554 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: make three million bucks a year. So I think this 555 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: is great for college football. That that Texas Tech kid 556 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: who played at Cincinnati and Dante More they could both 557 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Now they're going to come out 558 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: with fifty more starts. I mean your take, you played 559 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: the position in college. I love this for college football. 560 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: I did too. 561 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 10: And then, by the way, it's going to make them 562 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 10: better pros. You know, this is not just about the money. 563 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 10: It's also about the impact that they're going to have 564 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 10: once they're NFL players. 565 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: You and I have talked about this a lot. 566 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 10: You look at the best players in the NFL, and 567 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 10: in particular the quarterbacks that win in the postseason and 568 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 10: ultimately go on and win Super Bowls. You average out 569 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 10: their college career and you've got thirty plus starts, one 570 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 10: thousand plus attempts, very experienced guys. In fact, you know, 571 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 10: the least experienced quarterback from a college perspective to have 572 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 10: won a Super Bowl in the last twenty five years 573 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 10: is actually Tom Brady. 574 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 575 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 10: I mean that should tell you everything that you need 576 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 10: to know about what you need coming into the league. 577 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 10: And obviously fit, like you were talking about with the Jets, 578 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 10: fit and organization are obviously going to impact that as well, 579 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 10: but your experience and maturity level is a big factor 580 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 10: in that. And so I would also if Dante Moore 581 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 10: called me today and he said, hey, like, what should 582 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 10: I do? 583 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't blink an eye. 584 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 10: I would say go back to school because it's no 585 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 10: longer just a financial decision. He can make life changing 586 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 10: money at Oregon much less than the National Football League, 587 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 10: and getting extra starts prepares you for what you could 588 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 10: potentially have, which is a long NFL career. Because you 589 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 10: want to get to the second contract, that's one really 590 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 10: matters for you in the National Football League, And we're 591 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 10: starting to see by the way in the last couple 592 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 10: of years, experience at that position and experienced teams in 593 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 10: general are the ones that are winning in the postseason. 594 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 10: Look at Indiana, they've got experience. Look at Ohio State 595 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 10: last year, Michigan the year before. Experience at the quarterback position, 596 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 10: Experience across the line of scrimmage. That's what's ultimately winning 597 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 10: out right now. 598 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: In college football, well, I mean, bo Knicks had sixty 599 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: one college starts, So Sean Payton, it's not a coincidence 600 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: that when he got to Denver, Sean Payton said, here's 601 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: the entire playbook and answer luck three years four years 602 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: at stand for three years. Like when he came into 603 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: the league. They're like, okay, here's the entire playbook. We 604 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: don't have to babysit you. So it not only helps 605 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: you in college, but by the time he get the NFL. 606 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, bow Nicks had like four or five different 607 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: coordinators in college. He was like a pro in common 608 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: So I love that. Well, Mahomes said a ton of starts. 609 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford had a ton of starts. Look at what 610 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: he's doing, it's a good chance he's going to win 611 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: the MVP. 612 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 10: So this this is born out. This is not a 613 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 10: one or two year sample size in the National Football League. 614 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 10: This has been a twenty five year deal where we 615 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 10: can look and see who's succeeding in the postseason in particular. 616 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 10: And that's why it's easy to, you know, say to 617 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 10: a guy like Dante more or a lot of these quarterbacks, 618 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 10: stay in school, stay in school, and now they're getting 619 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 10: paid to do so well. 620 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: When I watched Alabama in Georgia, my takeaway was those 621 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: defenses are don't have a lot of depth. They didn't 622 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: generate the pass rush without bringing extra people. And my 623 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: takeaway is college football has officially changed. The SEC has 624 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: gone two and seven against non SEC teams, and that's 625 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: over Tulane, who lost their coach in Michigan. That's been 626 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: a mess for you know, six to eight weeks. I 627 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: think we have to be honest about this is that 628 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: of the four teams left, Joel three play real big 629 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: boy defense and Ole Miss doesn't. And they don't and 630 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it it's just money. Ohio 631 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: State can buy both sides. Miami and Oregon can buy 632 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I do think it's money. 633 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: I do think it's experienced as well. You know, I 634 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: think that that comes into it, which I was alluding 635 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: to in that last answer. 636 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 3: But think about who lost in the quarterfinals. 637 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 10: Ohio State lost in the quarterfinals, Alabama lost in the quarterfinals, 638 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 10: Georgia lost in the quarterfinals, and you could make a 639 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 10: strong argument that a lot of that was depth related 640 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 10: and linus scrimmage related. Like Georgia started losing players on defense, 641 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 10: they got banged up on defense, they lost the guy 642 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 10: to targeting, and all of a sudden, they didn't have 643 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 10: what they had five and six and seven years ago, 644 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 10: which is a two deep littered with five star players. 645 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 10: Because they could just hoard those guys, they didn't want 646 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 10: to go anywhere. So now all of a sudden, they 647 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 10: don't have the depth that they used to. What would 648 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 10: have been a forty to nineteen Georgie to win seven 649 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 10: years ago turned into an old miss win because they 650 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 10: were able to make some plays and attack that Georgia defense. Similarly, 651 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 10: like Miami was able to invest in a line of 652 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 10: scrimmage game that ultimately beat Ohio State. The defensive line 653 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 10: for Miami was outstanding. The offensive line for Miami was outstanding. 654 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 10: Oregon very similarly was able to handle the game at 655 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 10: the line of scrimmage and more specifically on defense. This 656 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 10: sport has turned into you've got to have a great 657 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 10: defense to win in the postseason, and in particular down 658 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 10: down the stretch when you get to the semi finals 659 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 10: and the finals. That's why I think it's going to 660 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 10: be tough for Role Miss. Their defense is ranked twenty 661 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 10: ninth in scoring defense. The rest of the participants. Miami 662 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 10: is sixth, Oregon is fourth. In Indiana is second in 663 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 10: scoring defense. So everybody can play defense right now, and 664 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 10: that's ultimately what it comes down to. So Ole Miss 665 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 10: has multiple coaches who are splitting time between LSU and 666 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 10: Ole Miss. I think Miami is the better team, significantly 667 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 10: better defense now that you look. 668 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: See. 669 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: Here was my thing on Lane Kiffin. I don't want 670 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: to be a hypocrite. I have been mobile in my career. 671 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell people not to upgrade, So 672 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a hypocrite. That said I 673 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: was curious. I said, I'm not so sure Old Miss 674 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: couldn't score their way to the National Championship game. I 675 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: think they'd be beaten by a better defense, but they could. 676 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: They could knock some teams off. Now, in the rear 677 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: view mirror, you look at the mess at Old Miss. 678 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 10: What do you make of Kiffen leaving. It's it's a mess. 679 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 10: Like you just said, that's the best way to describe it. 680 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 10: I said at the time, and I said it on 681 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 10: your show, I said it on others. I said it 682 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 10: on Big Noon Kickoff right before Michigan Ohio State. I 683 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 10: said that that if Lane was ultimately doing all this 684 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 10: and making all these decisions in order to compete for 685 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 10: a national championship, then all he had to do was 686 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 10: look at what's right in front of him, because he's 687 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 10: going to have that chance this year with this Old 688 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 10: Miss team. And that's exactly what has panned out. They're 689 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 10: just doing it with Pete Golding. Now, he decided to move, 690 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 10: and that's that's fine, although, like I also said during 691 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 10: that time, there are consequences to those decisions. Listen, what 692 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 10: I don't think Lane understands is that he's not the 693 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 10: victim in this scenario. You know, I think that there's 694 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 10: a lot of things going on right now, And what 695 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 10: I look at is the player. If I'm Trinidad Chambliss, 696 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 10: don't I expect desire my offensive coordinator to be one 697 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 10: hundred percent invested in what's going on with the national 698 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 10: semi final. Yes, that's that's what I hope for if 699 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 10: I'm in that position as a quarterback. 700 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: And the reality is is that's not the case. Now. 701 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 10: Lane would tell you that Charlie Weiss has had all 702 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 10: the time necessary and hasn't missed a meeting, and don't worry, 703 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 10: he's been back and forth to help recruit at LSU 704 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 10: and being back there, and it's been a little bit 705 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 10: toxic at Ole Miss. All these things. That's what Lane 706 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 10: would tell you. But the bottom line is is the 707 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 10: quickest way to be defeated is be distracted. And you 708 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 10: cannot serve two masters period, period. And so the city 709 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 10: situation sucks for the players. And I'm sure Lane is 710 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 10: catching heat from Old Miss and Ole Miss is catching 711 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 10: heat from Lane, and they're bantering back and forth now 712 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 10: and all of these different things, and all I keep 713 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 10: thinking about are the players. The players just want their 714 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 10: coaches to be there to help build support, prepare them 715 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 10: for the task at hand. And I don't know if 716 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 10: that's taking place right now one hundred percent, and that's unfortunate. 717 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 10: And that's one of the reasons why I would pick 718 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 10: Miami in this game. The matchup, actually, if you look 719 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 10: at it, Ole Miss resembles SMU enough that they can 720 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 10: get their quarterback Trinidad Chambliss on the edge tower and 721 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 10: tire out Baine and Mesador. 722 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: Like the matchup is not bad for Old Miss. It 723 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: really isn't. 724 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 10: No, but you better have an offensive coaching staff and 725 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 10: they better be one hundred percent vested in this game. 726 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: And that's what you can call into question. Yeah. I 727 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 3: always like underdogs. 728 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: If the underdog is built to play from behind, and 729 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: we just watched Old Miss, they're absolutely built to play 730 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: from behind because then Dad Chamblis can do a little 731 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: off script stuff. I always think underdogs get in trouble 732 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: when the Ole Miss can throw it if they're forced 733 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: to or they want to. They're throwing the football, So 734 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: they're built to be out played for three quarters and 735 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: come roaring back and win. And I can't wait to 736 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: wall I do like Miami. I think Miami is the 737 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: most physical I hate to use the word, but the 738 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: most violent physical team I've seen. That's what the Buckeyes 739 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: were last year. Sure, and may beat people up physically. Yeah, 740 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I think it comes down 741 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: to two things. Pay attention obviously to quarterback play. But 742 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: here's the deal. 743 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 10: Colin Carson Beck has been allowed to play in manageable 744 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 10: third down situations and he's been brilliant doing so. If 745 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 10: you can do that, Miami will succeed. 746 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: Yep, Joel Klatt, great stuff, Joel, appreciate it on a Tuesday. 747 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: Awesome, but have a good one. 748 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 749 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's an argument. The best offense left 750 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: is not Indiana Oregon. It's actually Ole Miss. So Ole Miss, 751 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: and you saw it against Georgia. I like underdogs when 752 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: they can, you know, like Chicago is a great example. 753 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: Chicago can be brilliant. 754 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: They get outplayed against Detroit the entire game and then 755 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: you look up in six minutes later it's tied. So 756 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: Ole Miss has the ability to do that. You know, 757 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: it's just interesting. The best SEC team now doesn't have 758 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: a good defense. They're led by offense. Welcome to twenty 759 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: twenty five and twenty twenty six college football. 760 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 3: Herd hierarchy. Last one of the regular season neck